UK Times: Abdulmutallab is a 9/11 Defender (Updated)
[Guest post by DRJ]
Northwest Flight #253 terrorist suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab — the son of a Yemeni mother and one of the richest men in Africa — is a 9/11 Defender.
— DRJ
UPDATE — From The Sun: Is Abdulmutallab the first of many?
“COPS fear that 25 British-born Muslims are plotting to bomb Western airliners.
The fanatics, in five groups, are now training at secret terror camps in Yemen.
It was there London-educated Umar Abdulmutallab, 23, prepared for his Christmas Day bid to blow up a US jet.
The British extremists in Yemen are in their early 20s and from Bradford, Luton and Leytonstone, East London.
They are due to return to the UK early in 2010 and will then await internet instructions from al-Qaeda on when to strike.
A Scotland Yard source said: “The great fear is Abdulmutallab is the first of many ready to attack planes and kill tens of thousands.”
Fortunately the UK is monitoring them. Unfortunately the US probably isn’t, so will we stop them from getting US visas like Abdulmutallab?
Why, of course!
It only makes sense!
EW1(SG) (edc268) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:41 pmJeff Norman keeps great company.
JD (c8f5e6) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:41 pmI originally described Abdulmutallab as a 9/11 “Truther” when I meant to say a “Defender.” I apologize and I’ve corrected the post.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:43 pmJeff Norman keeps great company.
Comment by JD — 12/27/2009 @ 8:41 pm
GOSH I hope Jeff comes back soon so we have yet another thing to mock him for. What a winner.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:43 pmI want to know what Abdulmutallab was doing in Houston for 11 days in August 2008.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:44 pmCross post. Oh – a defender. Just like Hasan. Well, it’d be fun to mock terrorists just like idiot Truthers, but, you know, with them trying to KILL us and all that’s a little tough to muster up the sense of humor to do.
no one you know (1ebbb1) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:46 pmHeck, DRJ, probably taking a TSA training course, the way things have been going. Sigh. I’m just glad that Mr. Hot Pocket didn’t manage to kill anyone.
Eric Blair (ddbceb) — 12/27/2009 @ 8:46 pmHeckuva job Ja-No!
daleyrocks (718861) — 12/27/2009 @ 9:00 pmI’ve updated the post.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 12/27/2009 @ 9:21 pmUnfortunately, when a person is willing to kill themselves, it makes it much harder to stop them.
Since we aren’t going to force people to strip search, it’s time to have everyone pass through a puffer/explosive sniffer, which would also get us past this stupid ‘remove your shoes’ thing.
JHTRazor (a1f2bc) — 12/27/2009 @ 9:40 pmAnd why isn’t this a death penalty crime?
After all, by attempting the act you are saying you wish to die. So even if they fail, why not grant their wish? At least then I don’t have worry about the second attempt when they are released.
Immediate death penalty — I mean we certainly have no doubt about guilt. Confession + melted underwear. Good bye!
Where’s Dexter when we need him?
Charlie (03643a) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:03 pm“suspect”??? please… unlawful combatant is more correct, so where is the field tribunal and summary execution?
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:09 pmAs for the guys visiting Pakistan hopefully they’ll get introduced to a hellfire missile or three when a boss shows up to check progress.
Soronel Haetir (2b4c2b) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:11 pmI, too, would like to know what the 11 days in Houston was about, and, I would really like to know why Abdumatallah was allowed on an international flight without a passport. If he was allowed to board without a passport, then we are right to have very serious concerns that the 25 training in Yemen will have one less obstacle in their way to reach their targets.
Kurt and Lori Haskell are attorneys with Haskell Law Firm in Taylor…
While Mutallab was poorly dressed, his friend was dressed in an expensive suit, Haskell said. He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, ‘He’s from Sudan and we do this all the time.’”
Mutallab is Nigerian. Haskell believes the man may have been trying to garner sympathy for Mutallab’s lack of documents by portraying him as a Sudanese refugee.
The ticket agent referred Mutallab and his companion to her manager down the hall, and Haskell didn’t see Mutallab again until after he allegedly tried to detonate an explosive on the plane.
Dana (f64b7d) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:23 pmIf there was a handler with him, it means he is not the only one.
Guess the unprecedented Cairo speech didn’t move them.
Patricia (b05e7f) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:31 pmFirst, allow the other 252 passengers to hold court, tomorrow or the next day should do. It’s only fitting, after all they were the ones he was trying to kill!
They can take care of all decisions and judgments even carry out their sentence. The corpse can be shipped to the white house just so “the won” knows exactly how those who voted his lame ass into office really feel.
One item we need to remember also is that he boarded the final leg of his flight in Amsterdam? For some reason I do not think TSA had much to do with allowing him on a plane. Oh gawd no I’m not defending them, just saying is all.
TC (0b9ca4) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:46 pmObama must stop playing basketball and golf immediately and start acting like a president.
Napolitano must resign immediately.
Metallica (e4735c) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:53 pmIs anyone asking why Obama hasn’t spoken up on this YET??
Metallica (e4735c) — 12/27/2009 @ 10:56 pmAnd weren’t we given 6 months notice on this guy?
TC,
I think the TSA has employees in foreign hubs to assist with screening on international flights but even if that’s not the case, the TSA approves security at foreign destinations before American carriers are allowed to fly directly there. That’s why last June, the TSA denied Delta permission to fly to Liberia and Kenya.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 12/27/2009 @ 11:11 pmEar Leader hasn’t spoken about this because he didn’t take TOTUS to Hawaii with him…. TOTUS had other plans. %-)
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Krusher (fad639) — 12/28/2009 @ 3:04 amNapolitano says, 1. No larger terrorist plot. (Thank goodness) 2. No air marshal on the plane. (She tells everybody air marshalls are not on every plane???) What a dumb bitch! Fire her ass NOW.
Proof of a government which succeeds at NOTHING. But I’m sure they’ll get health care done right. God help us all.
DaveinPhoenix (2bd6c3) — 12/28/2009 @ 4:51 amThis is going to happen again and again as long as we have a Dithering Idiot as President and a Blithering Idiot as Vice President.
PCD (1d8b6d) — 12/28/2009 @ 5:41 amIt is significant that this fellow was radicalized in Britain. He went to Yemen for bomb training but he got the ideas in Britain. His father has said so.
Tony Blair may have supported Bush in Iraq but he and Brown have wrecked Britain.
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Abdulmutallab Says More al Qaeda to Come, Obama Enjoying Beaches of Hawaii (video) « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042) — 12/28/2009 @ 8:00 amUnfortunately, when a person is willing to kill themselves, it makes it much harder to stop them.
Which makes our country’s obstinate refusal to recognize this stark reality all the more disgusting – when the Kamikaze pilots made it abundantly clear that they didn’t value any life (particularly their own), our military didn’t hesitate to seek out their bases of operations on Saipan and other outlying Japanese islands and coastal areas and annihiliate them on the ground. While we can’t launch a full – scale operation in Yemen, I see no reason why we cannot make deep incursions into a completely dysfunctional country and try to take out their terrorist training camps. We make them a simple offer – either you do it immediately, or we will. One or two carrier battle groups cruising just off their coast should make their decision relatively easy.
Dmac (a964d5) — 12/28/2009 @ 8:41 amTraining camps in Yemen:
We should be “bouncing the sand” as we speak. All of these camps should be attacked simultaneously, and repeatedly.
This situation is what happens when you deal with terrorism as a Law-Enforcement problem, instead of as a National-Security problem; and reinforces the conviction in the minds of many that LE is only there to tag the bodies and collect the shell-casings after the fact, as they have no constitutional requirement to protect anyone.
AD - RtR/OS! (191d21) — 12/28/2009 @ 8:59 amOn the other hand, there is that pesky thing called the U.S.Constitution which harps about how a Federal Government is to “…provide for the common defense…and secure the blessings of liberty…”
But, I guess you have to be a University, Constitutional Scholar to even believe in, what to many, seem the delusional ramblings of Mr.Madison after a week-long bender.
Actually, the system did work. The pat down, no-fly lists, carry on luggage restrictions, and air marshals are actually diversions from the real security process. The TSA has magicians manning checkpoints at various airports who cast spells to disable the detonators. That way, they can arrest the terrorists for actually trying to carry out a terrorist act without falling afoul of the politically correct crowd who will whine that there would have been no terrorist acts anyway. The fact that the detonator fizzled meant that the spell was successfully cast and the terrorist was not aware of it and did not have countermeasures in place.
We also see that the TSA counter-spells are working as no airplane has explodied upon being hit by an enemy spell.
Sabba Hillel (153338) — 12/28/2009 @ 9:14 amThis administration has had trouble with crashers before. If Desiree Rogers is still employed, why not Napolitano? If two dingbats can get into a White House party without being screened, why should any of the rest of us be safe?
KateC (7f3e3d) — 12/28/2009 @ 9:20 amSo here we have a obvious terror suspect and the gov can’t stop him with its vaunted system. How’s health care system going to work folks?
Lets wait though before pre-judging. I want to know if he paid cash for the ticket. Was it one way. Did he check-in luggage or carry any on board?
richardb (15329b) — 12/28/2009 @ 9:22 amThe “known” facts of this story keep getting more troubling.
Wherever they currently are, every single person on the 500,000 name “watch list” needs to have any existing U.S. visas pulled. Today. Then, these yahoos can take their chances on maybe getting a new one some time in the not too near future after undergoing a FULL and thorough security review. Going forward, trying to thwart suicide bombers sneaking explosives past security in Amsterdam, London, or anywhere else, including US airports, would not be quite so much of an issue for regular travelers if the lack of a valid U.S. Visa kept the bad guys off any plane headed to America in the first place. Not a guarantee for sure–many other holes to plug–but a good first step that the administration could take immediately to restore a smidge of credibility with the American people.
It is unclear why any citizen of the world (student, businessman, cleric) with even suspected activist or monetary terrorist ties needs to be welcomed into the U.S. for any reason at any time.
Also, where are the world’s airlines in all this? Are they skating on such thin ice financially that NONE of them are willing to stand up to demand reasonable security policies to protect their passengers, their employees and their expensive physical assets?
elissa (38f303) — 12/28/2009 @ 9:41 am…and don’t forget, elissa, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was able to board an international flight without even having a passport. It was that easy.
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kyle (9d9e73) — 12/28/2009 @ 10:14 amDana – worse than that, for whatever reason, they didn’t feel able to prevent the passenger boarding …
Alasdair (ca608a) — 12/28/2009 @ 10:15 amThere is possibly at least one good thing to come out of all this. Janet Napolitano will not ever be seated on the Supreme Court, which many observers thought she would be nominated for in the future. She has exhibited enough muddled thinking, intellectual incuriosity, and incompetence to make any confirmation hearing a guaranteed three ring circus.
elissa (38f303) — 12/28/2009 @ 10:38 amI think the TSA has employees in foreign hubs to assist with screening on international flights but even if that’s not the case, the TSA approves security at foreign destinations before American carriers are allowed to fly directly there.
DRJ, I stand corrected,( I knew I should have used different words). 🙂
In that case add all TSA employees to that court room as defendants!
TC (0b9ca4) — 12/28/2009 @ 11:56 am#32 richardb
see today’s powerline blog’s “what went wrong?”
to answer your query the dude paid cash and had no luggage. But of course pc once again runs amok. Asked a TSA friend if she thinks Napolitano is at all competent; waiting for a response.
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