Patterico's Pontifications

6/20/2009

Contrast: Iranian Protestors Shot As Obama Goes for Ice Cream

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 3:36 pm

Here are some Twitter messages I saw today from Change_for_Iran, a pro-Mousavi Iranian student, and Mark Knoller, CBS News White House Correspondent:

Change_for_Iran:

Knoller:

Change_for_Iran:

Knoller:

Change_for_Iran:

Knoller:

Change_for_Iran:

Knoller:

Change_for_Iran:

Knoller:

Everybody “laffing”?

UPDATE: Thanks to Instapundit for the link.

UPDATE x2: A similar point effectively made in video form, here.

264 Responses to “Contrast: Iranian Protestors Shot As Obama Goes for Ice Cream”

  1. Thanks for posting this, I just saw it after the item on Ace’s site. Later on, Mr. Knoller starts wondering why all the outrage over the ice cream jaunt? Buy a cluebat.

    Dmac (f7884d)

  2. Are you really surprised that Obama doesn’t give a crap what the people who have been against him from the start think, Dmac?

    Buy a cluebat, indeed.

    poon (bc36de)

  3. Shorter Knoller:

    “Celebrity Presidents–They’re Just Like Us!”

    I guess “journalists” don’t need to be concerned about what is going on in the world now that their Lord and Savior is in office–why bother when he so clearly dazzles everyone into loving us?

    Another Chris (a3bb8f)

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  5. Why Twitter and it’s ilk are both powerful tools and vapid fluff, the contrast could not be more staggering.

    Techie (482700)

  6. Remember when Olberdouch got all apopleptic over Boooooosh! playing golf while a war was on..? Imagine if he’s taken Laura and the girls out for a scoop or two…

    On MSNBC it would be a national Outrage! And the Koz kiddies would be calling for impeachment proceedings to begin…

    The effin’ hypocrisy and double standard are simply mind boggling…

    Bob (99fc1b)

  7. What’s that again about how vital the MSM is to democracy?

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407)

  8. We are truly being led by the Best & Brightest!

    Or, as has been said:
    Baby, I’m going to put you on Easy Street,
    overlooking Desperation Avenue.

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  9. Remember how the MSM used to chronicle this kind of crap about Bush? Something about a guitar during Katrina, and My Pet Goat during 9-11. Now it is petty and distracting.

    JD (85cf0b)

  10. Covering the White House spans the mundane to the ground-breaking. Frozen custard one minute, war the next. Nature of the beast.

    about 1 hour ago from web

    Settle down. Knoller explains it to us.

    Dana (8d88ef)

  11. I think it’s time for a little truthsay, O Honest Man.
    This is not about US.
    Even if the election gets rerolled tomorrow and Mousavi takes Nejads place as president, and the Assembly of Experts casts out Khameni and installs Sayeed Ayatollah Montazeri, Iran will still be an Islamic republic, a theocracy.
    The greens are crying Allahu Akbar from the rooftops, not “USA-democracy-come-save-us” or “Freedom Now!”
    This is not about democracy at all.
    This is a conflict between two visions of the Islamic Republic.
    Nejads fundies are very similiar to american conservatives…rural, socially conservative, ostentatiously pious, lowtech, less educated, older…..and….outnumbered. Mousavi’s greens are urban, socially liberal, hightech, college educated and young. But the Greens are devout shi’ia, never doubt it.
    Their beef with the regime is that Islamic law in an Islamic republic was violated by election fraud.
    This is all about justice.
    Obama is doing exactly the right thing, and that burrrrns like acid doesn’t it? He never puts a foot wrong, and he is going to come out of this looking like a hero.
    You see….if you know anything about Islam (and I do), you understand that the beating heart of real Islam (not the carny construct pimped by the axis of idiots, Steyn, Malkin, VDH, and Daniel Crack-pipes) is justice.
    The Prophet a nation can survive without god, but it cannot survive without justice.
    Obama used seeking justice several times in his last statement. It is a message that will resonate with all of dar al Islam.
    The very worst thing Obama could to is endorse Mousavi or express open support for the greens.
    That would wholly deligitimize them, and make them open targets for Nejads pious anti-american fundies.
    The burdha of Islam covers the rebels, because they are muslims.
    Patterico, why do you hate the Greens and want them to fail?

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  12. Well, Obama did finally get around to condemning the crackdown and following the lead of Germany, France and the UK in calling for free and fair elections, so there’s that.

    But yes, #2, 6, 9 you’re right, the double standard here on the media’s part is pretty remarkable.

    Sean P (3928ec)

  13. What a strange and wonderful world you live in?

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  14. The Prophet SAID a nation can survive without god, but it cannot survive without justice.

    Ya haqq!

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  15. I see nishi has eluded the orderlies again. If Jesse Jackson still wants to cut Teh One’s nuts off, all he has to do is kick nishi in the chin. Teh One can do no wrong.

    JD (85cf0b)

  16. Of course, he’d go out for ice cream; the White House is boring, there’s nothing to eat there, and besides, nothing’s happening anywhere important anyway.

    For every day that passes under the Obama administration, it really seems that Roger de Hauteville from Maggie’s Farm and Shannon Love from Chicago Boyz are being proven ever more correct. For Obama’s interests, goals, and experience, foreign events are simply an unwelcome distraction.

    jdm (05b268)

  17. Daniel Crackpipes? Your lack of class is noted, WC. Not to mention your incoherence.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  18. Just remember the motto of the New Democratic Party, when they do things that they condemned when a Republican did them”

    “…that’s different!™…”

    Petulant foot stomp is optional.

    Eric Blair (5a226d)

  19. I take it the comments here and at Hot Air are aimed at the media for covering this, and not Obama for eating, because it’s way to easy to make someone look like a tool for spending some time with his kids when a tragedy’s unfolding half way around the world. To wit:

    Change_for_Iran

    it was a nightmare, I can barely breath & my face is burning, Masood got shot in the arm & Shayan’s brother is missing.

    Patterico

    @andylevy I really think I should be paid for these insights.

    Change_for_Iran

    I don’t know where to start, first they attack our peaceful memorial gathering in front of the university with water gun

    Patterico

    @andylevy You’d be surprised how much people can learn about you — when they pool their knowledge about you on TWITTER.

    Change_for_Iran

    At least 19 people died in unrest Saturday in Tehran, sources at 1 hospital said. Unconfirmed reports put the death toll at 150.

    Patterico

    @andylevy Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that you’re not mentally ill in other ways as well.

    Change_for_Iran

    I think I saw 2 or 3 people lying on the ground in blood & IRG started to move them, probably hide them.

    Patterico

    @andylevy It’s a Twitter plot — the most diabolical kind. You fight it by following the plotters, which stops the plot dead in its tracks.

    Change_for_Iran

    I was going to tell masood they are using fake guns for scaring people! until people started screaming in agony

    Patterico

    4 out of 5 dentists recommend sugarless gum for their patients who chew gum. The 5th is mine. Damn county dental plan

    While Iran burns, Patterico chats with Andy Levy about Twitter conspiracies and complains about gum!

    That said, there is something to the inanity of the coverage, though, because pool reporters can be put to better use than this.

    SEK (072055)

  20. “The Prophet SAID a nation can survive without god, but it cannot survive without justice…”

    I, for one, would not wish to live there.

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  21. “He never puts a foot wrong, and he is going to come out of this looking like a hero.”–An Apostle of the New Messiah

    Well, that’s good that he managed to get to the ice cream store without falling over his own feet, but I hardly think that taking the kids out for an ice cream cone qualifies as heroic.

    Dave Surls (7f8e5f)

  22. Even if the election gets rerolled tomorrow and Mousavi takes Nejads place as president, and the Assembly of Experts casts out Khameni and installs Sayeed Ayatollah Montazeri, Iran will still be an Islamic republic, a theocracy.

    I would appreciate a reading list from an expert like you. I am always willing to learn and the reading I have done suggests that you are full of sh*t. The protesting students are enraged by the corruption of the mullahs, especially some like Rafsanjani who have become rich.

    Moussavi is now in Gorbachev’s situation and I think he knows it. Events are moving far beyond what might have happened had Ahmadinejad and Khameni been more cautious and engineered a less obvious fraudulent election.

    I don’t know that they will win but the regime will be fatally compromised if they prevail over the bodies of thousands of students. China survived Tiananmen but has been quite cautious in foreign policy for many years after.

    Obama is too little and too late and the world knows it.

    Mike K (90939b)

  23. SEK,

    1. I am not the President.

    2. Unlike you, I support a more robust support of Iran’s protestors from the President.

    3. This is symbolic of the more important issue: his lack of any real and timely condemnation of the violence — which he could have done without any danger to the movement.

    4. CBS is not covering my Twitter exchanges with Andy Levy.

    5. I was not having that conversation today, at the height of the violence.

    So, nice try, but woefully short of the mark.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  24. Obama is hoping it all blows over before the Tea Parties get any ideas…

    Eric (a06a47)

  25. Andrew Sullivan is praising Obama for not being baited by the Mullahs and the neocons (I think that means Jews).

    It is shameless that no matter what happens, Obama is just wonderful and can do no wrong. Well it is too little, too late. Sorry Andrew, you are now to Barack Obama what Hugh Hewitt was to Mitt Romney

    Joe (17aeff)

  26. DRJ,

    Are you deleting my posts?

    Kinda ironic considering the topic.

    [poon - As you know, you are in moderation so your comments are approved when I visit the website and notice them. However, I have approved virtually all your comments since you were put in moderation.

    Until now.

    I'm tired of your snark - this time and in previous comments - regarding how I moderate your comments. It is a privilege to comment here so unless you can convince Patterico otherwise, I'm banning you. If any more of your comments are approved, it will be Patterico that approves them. -- DRJ]

    poon (bc36de)

  27. I am not the President.

    Granted. But when someone covers his every meal, it’s way too easy to lob a cheap shot like this.

    his lack of any real and timely condemnation of the violence — which he could have done without any danger to the movement.

    He condemned the violence on Monday, but did so without throwing his weight behind the protesters — which, of course, is exactly what Ahmadinejad wanted him to do. Doing what Ahmadinejad wants him to qualifies, in my book, as a danger to the movement. (Remember, there’s a media blackout there, and the state-run station’s broadcasting a fake statement of Obama’s solidarity with the protesters. They’d love nothing more than to broadcast the words coming out of his mouth.)

    CBS is not covering my Twitter exchanges with Andy Levy.

    As I said, I’ve no problem with this as an attack on the media for focusing on inanities when full attention ought to be focused elsewhere.

    SEK (072055)

  28. Please tell me he did not take Air Force One to get the ice cream. I mean this guy is the ultimate candidate (even as President). How about what happened in Iraq today – oh 2nd fiddle to the ice cream. Why is he not held accountable for anything yet? Oh b/c he inherited the problems – if I said that to my boss – I’d be fired! Nice job so far!

    katie (9218cb)

  29. They don’t have ice cream at the White House?

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  30. He condemned the violence on Monday . . .

    No, he didn’t. Read your own link. He said he was “deeply troubled” by it — while his shill used the same exact phrase with the press corps while specifically refusing to condemn it:

    And on Monday, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said the U.S. is “deeply troubled” by events in Iran but stopped short of condemning them.

    “I haven’t used that word, ‘condemn,’” he told the State Department press corps. “We need to see how things unfold.”

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  31. “Contrast: Iranian Protestors Shot As Obama Goes for Ice Cream”

    Dear god the stupid has taken full root.

    francis (23ad19)

  32. SEK used to be fun. Though I am sure that Patterico was surprised to see himself compared to Teh One, Teh Prophet. No matter what happens, Barcky will be praised by folks like SEK and nishi. It is a love affair.

    JD (85cf0b)

  33. Hey, I got a question: If the Prophet said a nation can survive without God, but cannot survive without justice, does that make overthrow of the Islamic Republic an act approved by by the Prophet?

    Brendon Carr (b393fc)

  34. You’re right, he only said he was “deeply troubled.” That’s strong enough for me, given the rest: “I think that the democratic process, free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent — all of those are universal values and need to be respected, and whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they are rightfully troubled.”

    That said, given his inability to do anything without potentially doing harm, supporting the values seemed (and, even today, still seems) like the wiser path. There’s no reason for this to be a horse-race to history’s higher moral ground when no good can come of it.

    SEK (072055)

  35. Remember when the Left thought that things like My Pet Goat and Bush played guitar while millions drowned in New Orleans were neat rhetorical devices?

    JD (85cf0b)

  36. He used stronger terms to condemn the murder of Tiller and the killing at the Holocaust museum than he did of the American soldier murdered by a Muslim, or the theft of election and murder of innocents by Ahmendinnerjacket.

    JD (85cf0b)

  37. Remember when the Left thought that things like My Pet Goat and Bush played guitar while millions drowned in New Orleans were neat rhetorical devices?

    The difference being, of course, that those events occurred on American soil, and Bush could’ve actively influenced how they played out; whereas the current violence in Iran isn’t happening on American soil, and the only public action Obama could take is to condemn the violence, which is exactly what the Iranian regime wants him to do. Seriously, I titled that link above “[c]onservatives would respect Obama more if he took a principled stand against a corrupt Iranian regime by doing its bidding” for a reason. Substantiating the reports from the Iranian propaganda ministry is a terrible idea.

    SEK (072055)

  38. That said, given his inability to do anything without potentially doing harm, supporting the values seemed (and, even today, still seems) like the wiser path. There’s no reason for this to be a horse-race to history’s higher moral ground when no good can come of it.

    We could debate the wisdom of supporting the protestors.

    But there is absolutely no reason on Earth that they could not have CONDEMNED the violence — and done so as soon as it occurred.

    None whatsoever. Any argument to the contrary is rank rationalizing.

    So stop it.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  39. Brendon, you might read Persian Night by Amir Taheri. Actually, wheeler’s cat may have been the ghost writer, but it is an excellent explanation of the Iranian revolution and the theology of Shiism as distinct from Sunni Islam. Among other things in the book is the statement that most of what we see in modern Islam, especially the “fundamentalist” variety, is not in the Quran. It comes from hadiths, many of which, if not most, are almost certainly bogus. For example, a servant of Muhammed who lived with him three years, published a list of 57,000 hadiths 25 years after the Prophet’s death.

    If true, that would be two per hour, 24 hours per day for three years. What a memory !

    Mike K (90939b)

  40. Patterico – they are invested in Teh One being omniscient.

    SEK – How could Bush have stopped 9/11? Katrina? Does your BDS know no bounds?

    JD (85cf0b)

  41. I think that we can safely say that the world, as well as many US citizens are learning that Obama is not ready to lead.

    jack (d9cbc5)

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  43. SEK, the fact that I am not the President is not some little minor point that you can sort of shrug your shoulders at. It shows your whole cutesy comment to be complete bullshit.

    I am not a symbol of this country. Obama is. What he does and when he does it MATTERS.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  44. Many of those cries of Allahu Akbar have a definite ironic inflection. Those same cries were heard in 1978 and ’79 so now Iranians are rubbing the ayatollahs’ beaked noses in the hypocrisy. Not only did the purported men of God murder their way to the top of the 1979 revolution, slaughtering secular leftists, ethnic minorities such as Ali Murad Davudi and sometimes each other, they have proven to be just as corrupt as the Shah when it comes to looting the nation’s wealth.

    NC Mountain Girl (996c34)

  45. If Obama doesn’t go out for ice cream and hot fudge, HE’S DOING AHMADINEJAD’S BIDDING!!!

    Patterico (cc3b34)

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  47. Mousavi:
    “In the name of God, the kind and the merciful
    Indeed god demands you to safe keep what people entrust in you, and to rule them with justice. [this a verse of Koran]
    Respectable and intelligent people of Iran, These nights and days, a pivotal moment in our history is taking place. People ask each other: “what should we do?, which way should we go?”. It is my duty to share with you what I believe, and to learn from you, may we never forget our historical task and not give up on the duty we are given by the destiny of times and generations.
    30 years ago, in this country a revolution became victorious in the name of Islam, a revolution for freedom, a revolution for reviving the dignity of men, a revolution for truth and justice. In those times, especially when our enlightened Imam [Khomeini] was alive, large amount of lives and matters were invested to legitimize this foundation and many valuable achievements were attained. An unprecedented enlightenment captured our society, and our people reached a new life where they endured the hardest of hardships with a sweet taste. What this people gained was dignity and freedom and a gift of the life of the pure ones [i.e. 12 Imams of Shiites]. I am certain that those who have seen those days will not be satisfied with anything less. Had we as a people lost certain talents that we were unable to experience that early spirituality? I had come to say that that was not the case. It is not late yet, we are not far from that enlightened space yet.
    I had come to show that it was possible to live spiritually while living in a modern world. I had come to repeat Imam’s warnings about fundamentalism. I had come to say that evading the law leads to dictatorship; and to remind that paying attention to people’s dignity does not diminish the foundations of the regime, but strengthens it.
    I had come to say that people wish honesty and integrity from their servants, and that many of our perils have arisen from lies. I had come to say that poverty and backwardness, corruption and injustice were not our destiny. I had come to re-invite to the Islamic revolution, as it had to be, and Islamic republic as it has to be. In this invitation, I was not charismatic [articulate], but the core message of revolution was so appealing that it surpassed my articulation and excited the young generation who had not seen those days to recreate scenes which we had not seen since the days of revolution[1979] and the sacred defense. The people’s movement chose green as its symbol. I confess that in this, I followed them.
    And a generation that was accused of being removed from religion, has now reached “God is Great”, “Victory’s of God and victory’s near”, “Ya hossein” in their chants to prove that when this tree fruits, they all resemble. No one taught hem these slogans, they reached them by the teachings of instinct.

    How unfair are those whose petty advantages make them call this a “velvet revolution” staged by foreigners! [refering to state TV and Khameneni, perhaps!] But as you know, all of us were faced with deception and cheatings when we claimed to revitalize our nation and realize dreams that root in the hearts of young and old. And that which we had predicted will stem from evading law [dictatorship], realized soon in the worst manifestation.
    The large voter turnout in recent election was the result of hard work to create hope and confidence in people, to create a deserving response to those whose broad dissatisfaction with the existing management crisis could have targeted the foundations of the regime. If this good will and trust of the poeple is not addressed via protecting their votes, or if they cannot react in a civil manner to claim their rights, the responsibility of the dangerous routs ahead will be on the shoulders of those who do not tolerate civil protests. If the large volume of cheating and vote rigging, which has set fire to the hays of people’s anger, is expressed as the evidence of fairness, the republican nature of the state will be killed and in practice, the ideology that Islam and Republicanism are incompatible will be proven.
    This outcome will make two groups happy: One, those who since the beginning of revolution stood against Imam and called the Islamic state a dictatorship of the elite who want to take people to heaven by force; and the other, those who in defending the human rights, consider religion and Islam against republicanism. Imam’s fantastic art was to neutralize these dichotomies. I had come to focus on Imam’s approach to neutralize the burgeoning magic of these. Now, by confirming the results of election, by limiting the extent of investigation in a manner that the outcome will not be changed, even though in more than 170 branches the number of cast votes was more than 100% of eligible voters of the riding, the heads of the state have accepted the responsibility of what has happened during the election.
    In these conditions, we are asked to follow our complaints via the Guardian council, while this council has proven its bias, not only before and during, but also after the election. The first principle of judgment is to be impartial. I, continue to strongly believe that the request for annulling the vote and repeating the election is a definite right that has to be considered by impartial and nationally trusted delegation. Not to dismiss the results of this investigation a priori, or to prevent people from demonstration by threatening them to bloodshed. Nor to unleash the Intelligence ministry’s plain clothes forces on people’s lives to disperse crowds by intimidation and inflammation, instead of responding to people’s legitimate questions, and then blaming the bloodshed on others.
    As I am looking at the scene, I see it set for advancing a new political agenda that spreads beyond the objective of installing an unwanted government. As a companion who has seen the beauties of your green wave, I will never allow any one’s life endangered because of my actions. At the same time, I remain undeterred on my demand for annulling the election and demanding people’s rights. Despite my limited abilities, I believe that your motivation and creativity can pursue your legitimate demands in new civil manners.
    Be sure that I will always stand with you. What this brother of yours recommends, especially to the dear youth, in terms of finding new solutions is to not allow liars and cheater steal your flag of defense of Islamic state, and foreigners rip the treasures of the Islamic republic which are your inheritance of the blood of your decent fathers. By trust in God, and hope for the future, and leaning on the strength of social movements, claim your rights in the frameworks of the existing constitution, based on principle of non-violence.
    In this, we are not confronting the Basij. Basiji is our brother. In this we are not confronting the revolutionary guard. The guard is the keeper of our revolution. We are not confronting the army, the army is the keeper of our borders. These organs are the keepers of our independence, freedom and our Islamic republic. We are confronting deception and lies, we want to reform them, a reform by return to the pure principles of revolution.
    We advise the authorities, to calm down the streets. Based on article 27 of the constitution, not only provide space for peaceful protest, but also encourage such gatherings. The state TV should stop badmouthing and taking sides. Before voices turn into shouting, let them be heard in reasonable debates. Let the press criticize, and write the news as they happen. In one word, create a free space for people to express their agreements and disagreements. Let those who want, say “takbeer” and don’t consider it opposition. It is clear that in this case, there won’t be a need for security forces on the streets, and we won’t have to face pictures and hear news that break the heart of anyone who loves the country and the revolution.
    Your brother and companion Mir Hossein Mousavi

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  48. Paterrico, exactly what do require Obama to do that he has not done?

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  49. “If Obama doesn’t go out for ice cream and hot fudge, HE’S DOING AHMADINEJAD’S BIDDING!!!”

    Exactly. If he doesn’t go out for frozen custard with sprinkles on top, the terrorists will have won.

    driver (29b6de)

  50. “And a generation that was accused of being removed from religion, has now reached “God is Great”, “Victory’s of God and victory’s near”, “Ya hossein” in their chants to prove that when this tree fruits, they all resemble. No one taught hem these slogans, they reached them by the teachings of instinct.”

    Not ironic I think.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

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    Balafon » Statesmanship (b4b86f)

  52. How about this Patterico?
    When Mousavi asks Obama to intervene in some fashion, then he should.
    Until then, we should not meddle.

    Admit it…..the thing you are going to hate THE MOST is when the ancien regime is overthrown and the people rush the streets chanting Allahu Akbar! and when Obama goes to Iran to open an embassy there and he is greeted by worshipful throngs as the New Hero of Dar al Islam, the Savior of MENA.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  53. The difference between Knoller and a stalker is that the former gets paid for his voyeurism. Hence, his observations are categorized as “journalism” and thus not subject to a restraining order. A distinction without a difference.

    Irwin Chusid (fc51e8)

  54. He used stronger terms to condemn the murder of Tiller and the killing at the Holocaust museum

    Obama also doesn’t appear to express much ambivalence when it comes to the Palestinian problem. IOW, he seems to feel not too hesitant about embracing the notion that Israel is a big meanie and had better start knuckling under to its sad, put-upon, humble, poor neighbors than the way he feels about Iran and its ultra-extremist, ultra-fanatic president and ruling elite.

    Mark (411533)

  55. SEK, While in college I had a roommate from Iran, so I must be an expert on the country-I’m available for interviews & consultation.
    BTW Nishi, does your expertise come from being a Sufi? We haven’t heard anything about that for a year, I thought you were over it.

    poppa india (ea2b85)

  56. While Bush goes down in history as the Torture President that made “democracy” a dirty word.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

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  58. In nishidiot’s world, doing nothing is action, and criticizing Teh One is the same as being on the side as Dinnerjacket. They decry fundies but worship at the altar of Teh Prophet.

    JD (85cf0b)

  59. Paterrico, exactly what do require Obama to do that he has not done?

    There’s more to it than this, but as Drew M. says at Ace’s:

    “I don’t think it’s too much ask he not do crap to make it look like he’s even less interested than he already seems”

    That seems like a pretty minimal requirement.

    He could have condemned the violence much earlier. And (SEK notwithstanding) there’s a lot out there saying that the protestors themselves want Obama to speak on their behalf. They don’t think he will — but they wish he would.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  60. Do you see there in Mousavi’s speech a request for Obama to say something?
    Obama sent a message to the Iranian people.
    He sent the message that he knows they are seeking justice, the justice of Islam, not seeking “democracy.”
    Why would they want a “democracy”, when, like us, they already have a republic?

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

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  62. [...] Patterico has compared the tweets from Tehran with those from White House correspondent Mark Knoller, who was on Ice Cream Watch Duty tonight. [...]

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  63. this is not about obama backing one candidate over another- this is a popular uprising. there’s a chance- a slim chance yes, but a chance- that the regime could fall. we should help with the pushing!

    Jones (f397dc)

  64. [...] June 20, 2009 Posted by Jehuda in Uncategorized. Tags: News, Politics trackback Ice cream didn’t make the news in Iran today.  But it did here in [...]

    Ice Cream is the Godmother of Indifference « The Rhetorican (4121b7)

  65. Patterico – arguing with that is one the equivalent of trying to teach criminal law to your dirty sweat socks.

    JD (85cf0b)

  66. No surprise that Knoller and CNN fiddle while Teheran burns. Knoller’s an heir to the Eason Jordan tradition, after all.

    http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/CNNs_Iraqi_Cover-Up.asp

    (That link includes, not only the criticism of CNN’s speak-no-evil, suck-up-to-dictators policy, but also Jordan’s mealy-mouthed defense of CNN’s pro-dictator policies, printed verbatim).

    Knowing the personal stories I knew about the brutality of the regime, I had three options: 1. Never repeat such horror stories. 2. Tell the stories sooner and, as a result, see innocent people killed. 3. Tell the stories after the downfall of the Saddam Hussein regime. I chose option three and could never imagine doing anything else.

    What he doesn’t mention, of course, was that he was perfectly comfortable spiking the stories forever, if his pal hung on in power and continued to sell CNN “access” for favorable coverage — like Ahmadinejad does today.

    Kevin R.C. O'Brien (526364)

  67. The regime will fall.
    The youtube of the girl in the chadoor that was shot in the heart has gone viral on youtube.
    It is just a matter of how long it will take.

    Obama has done exactly the right thing.
    How can you not see the hypocracy of Sick Grandpa sponsoring a bill declaring support for the resistance when he recently sang bombbombomb Iran?
    And we should not “help”.
    This is not about us.
    Any support for the resistance or Mousavi will be instantly twisted into an american attack on al-Islam.
    Those people are ALL muslims.
    If they were secular students trying to overthrow the islamic government, sure, Obama could say something.
    They are not.
    They are devout muslims trying to reform their OWN government in an Islamic republic.
    so…..stfu about what Obama should do.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  68. The obvious point that nobody seems to mention is that Obama’s tactic of talking the Iranian regime out of nuclear weapons isn’t going to work. But Obama thinks he is as magic as the media spins him to be… the classic liberal “non-threatening = non-threatened” delusion in a new and deadly form. We will have to try something else.

    This might have been the “something else”, but when fate unexpectedly dealt us a wild card, Obama folded our hand.

    sherlock (916775)

  69. How can you advise Obama when you obviously haven’t even read the problem statement, Patterico?

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  70. While I appreciate that the Obama children should have as normal a life as possible, they did not volunteer for this…BHO DID volunteer for this job, and with this job comes great responsibility and obligation. That responsibility/obligation requires that he no longer is able to put his family first without first considering the country first. For the next four years the USA comes first and that includes how we are perceived around the world through HIS actions.

    Perhaps, just perhaps, this would have been a better Saturday to make sundaes in the fully stocked kitchens at the White House and save the outing for another day.

    To help matters, perhaps if the press didn’t keep having Obama-gasms every time he scratches his ears, perspective might be achieved.

    Vivian Louise (c0f830)

  71. Just from a selfish point of view, and ignoring all the moral questions, the bottom line is that Obama’s plan to sweet-talk the mullahs out of wanting the bomb isn’t going to work. It is the old “us being non-threatening = us non-threatened” b.s. in a new and deadly form.

    Fate just slipped us a wildcard under the table, and Obama the rookie folded without looking at it.

    sherlock (916775)

  72. “If Obama doesn’t go out for ice cream and hot fudge, HE’S DOING AHMADINEJAD’S BIDDING!!!”

    He’s probably taking extra long #2′s too. WHILE PEOPLE DIE.

    francis (23ad19)

  73. Do you see there in Mousavi’s speech a request for Obama to say something?
    Obama sent a message to the Iranian people.
    He sent the message that he knows they are seeking justice, the justice of Islam, not seeking “democracy.”
    Why would they want a “democracy”, when, like us, they already have a republic?

    Comment by wheeler’s cat

    No reading list yet. Just paens to Obambi.

    Try not to spam the list with long quotes. A link is fine with your wisdom excerpted.

    I wonder why, when Mark Bowden was leaving the US embassy/museum in Tehran a couple of years ago, the guards gave him a thumbs up when he said he was an American and then they said, “Go George Bush !”

    Maybe he stumbled into a neocon meeting. Eh ?

    I guess republic citizens spend a lot of time demonstrating about stolen votes, eh ?

    Mike K (90939b)

  74. I am surprised that Obama found the time to get ice cream in between playing golf and fence sitting the last 7 days.

    It is a sad day for America and the world when standing up for Freedom is considered “meddling” by the President of the United States.

    Baxter Greene (8035ae)

  75. Mark Knoller is a freaking idiot. Oh, he’s a “journalist?”

    Imagine my TOTAL lack of surprise.

    David Block (5f1cdc)

  76. In honor of Obama’s commanding leadership, Ben & Jerry’s has announced 6 delicious new flavors: Truncheon Crunch, Ayatollhouse Cookie Dough, Lemon Loin-Gird, Ineffectual Fudge, Let Them Eat Cake Batter, and Toffeetalitarianism.

    Jim Treacher (796deb)

  77. This thread is just another example of the complete dishonesty, and incompetence, of Teh One!
    How else to explain the gross inundation of Moonbattery here?
    They only seem to come out when he’s behind the 8-ball;
    and, on this run of the table, he seems to be snookered from every angle.

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  78. I thought you might be interested in Mousavi’s speech since you are OUTRAGED about Obama not doing enough or whatever.
    And also since you seem to feel Mousavi and students are sending psychic messages that they want more association with the Great Satan so the baseej can target them for arrest or assassination.
    But like I said, you have no understanding of the problem so why should you presume to advise the president?

    And yes, Mike K, they love Bush in MENA. That is why the shoe thrower became a regional hero.

    Here is something I have read that is fairly accurate.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  79. Jim Treacher,

    That is funny.

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  80. It’s either laugh or cry. And I’m cried out for one day.

    Jim Treacher (796deb)

  81. wheeler’s cat,

    Can you explain why Egypt thinks Obama and other leaders’ neutrality sends the wrong message?

    “Events in Iran have followed in close succession since the announcement that fundamentalist candidate Ahmadinejad was elected to a second term in the presidential elections. Between the mass demonstrations [of the reformists] decrying electoral fraud, and the counter-demonstrations accusing the reformists of allegiance to the West, the international community has stood confused about what position to take towards this democratic outpouring in a country that is on the threshold of acquiring nuclear capabilities, something all international and regional actors consider an unwelcome development.

    The caution that has characterized the position of the principle international actors towards the abuses occurring in the streets of Iran, up to and including the killing [of protesters], may be sending the wrong message to the ruling powers there. The upshot of this message is that the strong desire to reach a political resolution to the Iranian nuclear crisis and to avoid a clash with the Iranian authorities is a goal that supersedes all other considerations – even if these other considerations be support for international principles and human rights, and the urging of the [Iranian] government to stop the violence and bloodshed and to lend an ear to the views of the Iranian opposition. [This opposition] has expressed its rejection of the election results and its resistance to a second term for the current president, primarily for domestic reasons, and principle among them [Ahmadinejad's] failed management of the economy.”

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  82. Yes, laugh or cry and pray for all those people.

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  83. Hopefully the protests in Iran will light a fire under those Americans who are upset with out-of-control government spending and the takeover of more and more of our rights and freedoms. See you at the next Tea Party!

    Viaggi Query (665086)

  84. It’s an excellent post.

    And I’m crying.

    I am filled with hate for the mullahs and for the appeasers and I’m in despair, mostly because we are powerless to do anything to help.

    Patricia (2183bb)

  85. Michael Ledeen has an unverified letter from Mousavi to Obama:

    “From the Office of Mr. Mir Hossein Mousavi

    To the President of the USA, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama:

    Dear Mr. President,

    In the name of the Iranian people, we want you to know that when you recently made the statement “Achmadinejad or Mousavi? Two of a kind,” we consider this as a grave and deep insult, not just to Mr. Mousavi but especially against the judgment of the Iranian people, against our moral conviction and intelligence, especially those of the young generation that comprises a population of 31 million.

    It is a specially grave insult for those who are now fighting for democracy and freedom, and an unwarranted gift and even praise for Mr. Khamenei, whose security forces are now killing peaceful Iranians in the streets of every major city in the country.

    Your statement misled the people of the world. It was no doubt inspired by your hope for dialogue with this regime, but you cannot possibly believe in promises from a regime that lies to its own people and then kills them when they demand the promises be kept.

    By such statements, your administration and you discourage the Iranian people, who believe and trust in the values of democracy and freedom. We are pleased to see that you have condemned the regime’s murderous violence, and we look forward to stronger support for the rightful struggle of the Iranian people against the actions of a regime that is your enemy as well as ours.”

    I don’t know who wrote this but I particularly agree with the portion I’ve bolded.

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  86. What? Of there is something wrong with all of this. There is no about whether or not Obama used biodegradable cups to hold his ice cream.

    Brian G. (eb9d97)

  87. You’ll have to pardon wheeler’s cat. He was out saying one of his five daily prayers to his lord and savior, Baracka. Barackahu Akbar!

    wheeler's cat's friend (b20e2f)

  88. But there is absolutely no reason on Earth that they could not have CONDEMNED the violence — and done so as soon as it occurred.

    Because it could be made to look like a statement of support for the protesters. He carefully chose his words in defense of principle over particulars, because the latter could’ve been twisted.

    [T]he fact that I am not the President is not some little minor point that you can sort of shrug your shoulders at. It shows your whole cutesy comment to be complete bullshit.

    In terms of the structure of your rhetoric, it is a minor point. I demonstrated that anyone who does anything while a crisis happens somewhere else can be made to look petty and uncaring by doing exactly what you did — well, not exactly, because I took your own words, whereas you took someone else’s about Obama. Which, if I actually thought it made you look bad, would make you look worse. (“He wasn’t merely doing nothing, he was twittering about doing nothing!”)

    Put differently, if Obama twittered about the twenty minutes he spent taking a shower, brushing his teeth, and eating breakfast, I could make him look like an ass for doing his daily ablutions while Iran burned.

    I am not a symbol of this country. Obama is. What he does and when he does it MATTERS.

    To whom? Certainly to the Iranian regime, who wanted him to do what you wanted him to so badly they went ahead and said he did so anyway. Why would you want him to do the same thing the government you want him to condemn does? You can see why that doesn’t make much sense, can’t you?

    How could Bush have stopped 9/11? Katrina?

    Not stop, but certainly deal with. With Iran, Obama can sit in the war room and talk about Iran with his advisers; with Katrina and 9/11, Bush could’ve sat in his war room and made tactical decisions about how to deal with the aftermath of events transpiring on American soil. This ain’t too difficult to understand if you don’t deliberately try not to.

    SEK (072055)

  89. Mark Knoller is a turd bomb.

    Paul A'Barge (e2443e)

  90. While Obama is taking a shit, people in Darfur are getting their arms chopped off.

    Welcome to the world in which we live, comparing the inane spectacle which is Twitter doesn’t change it.

    Ron (755dca)

  91. Lol, Egypt thinks we should butt in?
    hahaha
    riiight. I betcha Mubarack is feelin’ pretty nervous himself right now. Oh, pleeez Massa Obama, doan trow meh in that briar patch!
    Mubarack is a freakin’ tyrant that throws bloggers in prison.

    I was putting a rebuttal up on Ledeens thread. Why would Mousavi’s people send LEDEEN a copy? do they keep a neocon warmongers circulation list?
    it is to laff.

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  92. Also…America has NO state department relations with Iran.
    The Euros can refuse to recognize Nejad.
    We already don’t recognize him.
    ;)

    wheeler's cat (0cf7e1)

  93. [...] Obama was showing a level of detachment that would have been blasted for weeks in George Bush.  This Twitter stream could not make the incongruity any plainer.   Is there much he could do about the ongoing nightmare at this point?  Not much, but showing a [...]

    Goood Luck to the Iranian People Today « The Political Inquirer (d0f290)

  94. The sycophantic Sufi is in rare form tonite. Down on her knees for Teh One.

    JD (cfbd15)

  95. So, we have a chance to help a subjugated people overthrow tyranny and find their own way and all the Amen chorus can do is applaud inaction.

    As Randolph said, they both shine and stink in the moonlight.

    Ag80 (745a02)

  96. I can only imagine what SEK and wc would have screamed if GWB had pushed aside the Gov. of LA, and had taken direct control of the disaster operations after Katrina. It would have only confirmed, in their warped minds eye, how he was shredding the Constitution, and imposing a dictatorship upon the Republic (which they constantly accused him of doing regardless of the facts of the situations).

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  97. I can only imagine what SEK and wc would have screamed if GWB had pushed aside the Gov. of LA, and had taken direct control of the disaster operations after Katrina.

    Does it really matter? SEK, nishi, and every other leftist that is defending Obama on his approach here is revealing that they couldn’t give a crap if people are killed by their government or not–just as long as their Lord and Savior doesn’t risk getting his hands dirty or his reputation sullied.

    In the meantime, Teleprompter Obumbles is realizing that banking on the regime to swiftly put down this uprising in a couple of days isn’t coming to fruition, and he’s now tripping over himself to make it seem like he was at the root of all this. Never mind that France, Germany, and Canada have all condmened this regime days ago for what it is doing.

    Funny how Obama has stronger words for his opponents on his healthcare scam than he does for a government that systematically is murdering protestors. He has a once-in-a-generation chance here to show that standing for “hope” and “change” isn’t just a rhetorical device to get elected, and is actually a tangible principle of human liberty. Instead, he’s playing realpolitick and “guessing” on the uprising with the same accuracy that he did on the impact of the stimulus.

    Either Obama is the leader of the most powerful democratic republic in the world, or he is not.

    Another Chris (a3bb8f)

  98. Screw al-Islam. Israel will turn the “republic” into glass. Deal with it.

    Bear1909 (abcdd6)

  99. While Obama is taking a shit, people in Darfur are getting their arms chopped off.

    Comment by Ron — 6/20/2009 @ 7:49 pm

    Taking a shit is just about the only thing he’s able to do without a camera present.

    Jim Treacher (796deb)

  100. Sheesh, can’t Obama just eat his waffle? /sarcasm

    pst314 (dbf8fd)

  101. I don’t think it’s such a big deal that the president went out for ice cream with his kids. But I’m wondering why CBS assigns one of their reporters to “tweet” about trivial news.

    CBS = Cool Barack Source

    lee (86706b)

  102. =yawn= Yes and President Kennedy watched some movies during the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Popcorn, not ice cream, most likely in hand. Lordy how did we get throught that.

    “Let ‘em land.”

    Memo to Iran- this is a pinprick compared to three days at Gettysburg. Suck it up. Forget the ‘martyrdom’ rap. Mousavi, climb a top a tank, rally them and the young in the military to your side, wave a flag, Yetsin-style. Fan the flames or flame out.

    DCSCA (9d1bb3)

  103. President Obama is doing exactly the right thing… nothing.

    We have direct experience of what happens when we meddle in Iranian affairs.

    Why does the right and neoconservatives specifically have such selective memory?

    My goodness doesn’t anyone remember the Shaw of Iran?

    He was that result of American and British covert operations ending in the 1953 coup d’etat… which of course was all about oil.

    Google “Operation Ajax” the history is there and it’s been well documented.

    The Iranians certainly remember.

    The “blow-back of all that is we got the Ayatollah Khomeini

    America does not need to be involved with Iranian internal affairs… AMERICA HAS MADE THAT MISTAKE BEFORE.

    Remember?

    David (53756f)

  104. I’m looking forward to the Obama Ahmadinejad photo op. We’re going to be able to use Obama’s arrogance and ego to make some great campaign commercials for 2010 and 2012.

    Alhambra Circle (f3a8e0)

  105. The Left hates it when the World focuses attention on the Left’s previous mistakes, such as the current theocratic regime in Iran brought about by Jimmah’s fecklessness.
    First they demand that we stop supporting the ME “thugs” who oppress their own people; now, they demand that we not support those who would throw off the yoke of those “thugs”.
    But then, it has always been, with the Left:
    Do as I say, not as I do!

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  106. And what does Obama going for Ice Cream got to do with Iran protests….does that mean he shouldn’t even eat?
    You know sometimes I wonder how some people think cuz It Is easier said than done.This Is purely a very weak argument.Let our president eat so he may be able to serve you and me you won’t bring him down both ways.
    There are so many statements I read here and they seem so naive,misInformed and clearly uninformed.Everybody hates the situation In Iran oh I thought everybody did maybe am wrong.But yeah I think they do.I don’t care how It ends but everything that has a beginning has an end to It.I trust Obama In this situation than anyone b4 him.Plus am not sure about anyone after him either,lol.Not funny though but It doesn’t mean I shouldn’t laugh a little.

    Dydens (5e6b95)

  107. What a BS proposition. I had a beer today and enjoyed it. Doesn’t mean I’m not concerned about and rooting for the Iraqi people. Obama’s doing the right thing so far — not making the USA a point of controversy for the Iranian government.

    Testy (06a345)

  108. And please, DuckCrap, enough with the Civil War analogies.
    For years we listened to your side carp about the “excessive” loss of life in Iraq, completely disregarding the historic record regarding casualty counts and how the record in Iraq was miniscule compared to the truly horrendous losses suffered by American’s on both sides in notable Civil War Battles.
    So spare us your disdain.

    AD - RtR/OS! (46d66c)

  109. Why am I reminded of the tale of Sir Robin?

    abad man (524a49)

  110. I see the “RIGHT WING NUT”, are working overtime this weekend making extra “KOOL-AID” for their “SHEEP” to drink. Apparently all these “WAR-MONGER” don’t get it. The Iran government would love nothing more for the America Government to try and step in on their business. They would litter the street with the bodies of protesters and blame it on Obama for attacking them. The “NEO-CONS”, would love to hang the Deaths of as many Iranian citizens on Obama, as possible. Or even worse have this Country in another WAR. Just like the “WAR-MONGERS”, you are. Start the WAR, and someone else go out and fight and DIE, for your enjoyment..You “BUFFOONS”.

    ernest (18b897)

  111. I wish there was some way to stop everyone from automatically condemning or supporting a person instead of judging individual actions. I like very little of what Obama has done and,even worse, is trying to do on most issues. However, in this case I think he’s doing the right thing.

    He is supporting some of the fundamental human rights that underlie any civilized culture without adding fuel to the fire. Beyond that there’s nothing much he can do, so why not go out for ice cream? Is there ever any time where something horrible isn’t happening somewhere? I suppose he could stay home and seethe in frustration about all the things he can’t change and make everyone around him as miserable as he was or he can keep on keeping on with things he CAN do something about (unfortunately).

    MyGauntlet (03ff9c)

  112. Wow. You really hate Obama. Anything he does is just material for scorn and anger.

    Whatever he does you’re going to say he sucks. I mean, you’re criticizing him for taking his kids out for ice cream!

    Sophomore (ba7b87)

  113. Not only is Obama ignoring the Iranians, he’s also ignoring us. And the rest of the world, which is following this crisis. Can’t he empathisz with Americans? Why won’t he answer our concerns and our protests?

    Patricia (2183bb)

  114. If these people rushing to the president’s defense are senior White House advisors, all I can say is – Great job, guys! Keep it up!

    The juxtaposition of frozen custard and splattered blood is worthy of Tarantino. Is this by any chance a promo for the third installment of Simon Pegg’s “Blood and Ice Cream” trilogy? You guys are so incredibly hip.

    Glen Wishard (02562c)

  115. Is this a troll infestation or a sock puppet infestation ?

    I’m going to bed. Apparently the moon brings out the moonbats.

    Mike K (90939b)

  116. ‘Apparently all these “WAR-MONGER” don’t get it.’

    Guess not. I know I’m having trouble getting some things.

    For instance, if the libby-wibbies see Serbs killing Albanians they want to go bomb the crap out of the Serbs and make them stop, even though the Serbs never lifted a finger against America; but when Iranians are killing other Iranians, the libby-wibbies don’t even want to complain about it, even though Iran is our arch enemy and the Iranians have lifted a finger against America.

    It’s mighty confusing.

    It’s also confusing trying to figure out exactly who the warmongers are.

    I know I am, because I advocate attacking Iran (the sooner the better), but I guess Bill Clinton isn’t, even though he bombed all kinds of countries, and ditto for the New Messiah, even though he keeps talking about fighting Al Qaida to the last drop of someone else’s blood.

    Yup, it’s definitely not easy sorting out all these issues, and I have to confess there are a lot of things I don’t get…especially the blathering nonsense that spews out of the Dems and their quasi-sentient leftoid supporters.

    Dave Surls (6a53da)

  117. Oh, I’m “laffing” all right.

    SukieTawdry (b7ff88)

  118. 1. President Obama, has 2 Ongoing Wars in the Middle East, Financed by [Communist-Socialist China] to the Price tag of 20 Billion Per Month with Interest and Climbing.

    2. President Obama has a Maniac in North Korea Threatening to [Nuke] Hawaii,Alaska Or Japan !!

    3. An Economy on [Life Support]

    4. Dealing With Pakistan, Walking a Tight Rope.

    5. National Health Insurance.

    6. getting 2 American Auto Industries back on Track.

    7.This Week, Receiving 70 Billion Dollars [TARP $$] back from Recovering Banks and Waiting on More TARP $$

    8.High Unemployment

    9.China & Russia have More Interest and Investments in Iran, Let them [Police Iran] Let them Handle Iran, for a Damn Change.

    Every Time We get Involved with those Damn People,it Goes Dreadfully Wrong,for Us.

    We Need to Keep Focus on Our Nation and Ending these 2 Occupations, in the Middle East, Not Perpetuate or Escalate this Iranian Issue.

    Iranian People Need to take Care of this Problem. its Their Civil war, Not Ours.

    All People Concerned with Taking Up Arms to Defend Iranians, Go Build a Militia & Flight Squadron and Drop Bombs On Iran, Bombs Don’t Don’t Disriminate, as to Mousavi or Ahmadinejad’s Followers.

    BIG NOTE: WE ARE NOT THE WORLD [POLICE] !!STAY OUT OF THIS AFFAIR…PERIOD !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  119. And while bold protesters are taking to the streets in Iran, Tacky-tush is safely 5000 miles away, having a keyboard-conniption about President Blackazoid not casting the deciding vote for FREEDOM (R) in Iran.

    Sure, why not?!

    Jamey (51700f)

  120. Any intelligent person knows Obama is playing it exactly right. Just ask former secretary Kissinger, or current ranking Republican Lugar on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Its amazing that these right wingers just have such a childish need to lash out. No wonder Rowe “permanent majorly” is now in the wilderness, and appear to be destined to be there for some time. Frankly, not allot of difference in the way right wingers think and process the world and the way extremist members of the Talban think–the world is black and white, and ideology is more important then results. The real battle of the 21st century will be between ideologues and pragmatists.

    STeve Smith (9960a2)

  121. [...] Patterico has compared the tweets from Tehran with those from CBS’s White House correspondent Mark Knoller, who was on Ice Cream Watch tonight. [...]

    Tone Deaf: Will Media Give Obamas’ Ice Cream Outing the ‘Bush Golf Treatment’? | Business Opportuinty Buzz And Web News (385391)

  122. “Frankly, not allot of difference in the way right wingers think and process the world and the way extremist members of the Talban think–the world is black and white, and ideology is more important then results.”

    Translation–”I LOVE seeing Iranians murdered in cold blood by the government for having the audacity to protest! It’s such a pragmatic approach!”

    Another Chris (a3bb8f)

  123. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

    The History pf US Involvement is not Good at all.

    Iran Contra.

    Iran Arms for Hostages Crisis

    The Shah Of Iran

    Supporting Iraq Over Iran [War] and Giving Iraq Chemical Weapons to use on Iranians..

    We need to Stay out of this Conflict and let the Iranian People chart their own Destiny. Its their Civil war, Not Ours.

    This Nation’s President has far More on his Plate, than we can imagine.

    Omaar (9053bb)

  124. Hey, maybe Obama could hive another meaningless speech that has no substance. The left and the media eat those up just like they were ice cream cones and they make it look like he’s actually being presidential. It’s better than twiddling his thumbs for three days and looking like an idiot.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  125. Americans were so disillusioned with Bush’s apparent “you’re with us or against” attitude in foreign policy regarding wayward regimes (which didn’t bother me as much) that they developed an overly romantic expectations for Obama’s more open minded attitude that’s more typical of the UN.

    But As far as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is concerned, Obama’s conciliatory gesture is a non event. He’ll do whatever he wants no matter what he said, and the rigged elections prove it. Oh, he would have raved like a lunatic about America’s arrogance if he was challenged, but that’s expected. The same with Kim Jong Il, and Castro.

    Obama has no problem with meddling with private businesses and placing regulations all over the place. True, foreign policy is a bit different, but this is a guy who constantly urges “action” and govt involvment in any crisis. He was IMMEDIATELY outraged when AIG execs were paid bonuses (that his bailout funded), but he sat silent for a couple days after the Iranian vote and issued a rather blase response.

    Obama’s Bush on steroid in the economy, and a marignal improvemnt in foreign relations, but I’m not even sure of that now.

    lee (86706b)

  126. Any intelligent person knows Obama is playing it exactly right.

    By being a milquetoast? Okay. But if so, again, tell Barry to STFU about Israel and Palestine. If he feels he must be demure and shy — and kum-bah-yah-ish — in dealing with Iran and its fanatic atomic-bomb-seeking regime, then he should feel no different about the quagmire — about the fanatic thorn on its side — that Israel is stuck with.

    Mark (411533)

  127. “Can you explain why Egypt thinks Obama and other leaders’ neutrality sends the wrong message?”

    Listening to egypt on matters of democracy is sending the wrong message.

    francis (23ad19)

  128. Can you explain why Egypt thinks Obama and other leaders’ neutrality sends the wrong message?

    So, Mubarak strongly supports a “democratic outpouring.”

    Explain how a newspaper wholly owned by a regime that repeatedly uses violence against democratic outpourings in its own country and which is controlled by a president who routinely gets nearly nearly 90 percent of the vote–has ANY credibility in this matter.

    steve (d8cd02)

  129. Check this out from Dan Froomkin in March of last year:

    According to the meticulous records kept by CBS Radio White House correspondent Mark Knoller, Bush on Monday lodged his 879th day spent in whole or in part at Camp David or his sprawling estate in Crawford, Tex.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/03/04/BL2008030401392.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

    Bilby (24c2d1)

  130. ALERT!!!!!! Be Advised: If you speak out against the Neo-Con, Right-Wing War Mongers, this website will remove your comment. This website is a service of Cheney and Company…..

    ernest (18b897)

  131. This Nation’s President has far More on his Plate, than we can imagine.

    That’s why it’s a job for adults with guts, principles, and vision, not vapid ward heelers with Daddy abandonment issues.

    And if Obama didn’t want to deal with these events and responsibilities, he shouldn’t have applied for the job. Instead, he treats the presidency like a combination of a perpetual high school homecoming king campaign, not the office of vast import that it is. This is the People magazine presidency, an administration of superficial, passive-aggressive, intellectually and emotionally stunted posing.

    All the college students in this country that voted for him need to take a hard look at what’s going on in Iran right now, by people who are mostly their own age, to understand why standing up for the Iranians is a confirmation of their own constitutional right to protest without reprisal.

    Another Chris (a3bb8f)

  132. Should US repeat past mistakes? Interventionism in Iran not US best interest, we have a lot of problems to fix too.
    Twitter @gegagome

    German (5aeb09)

  133. Hmmm

    Jason (863676)

  134. ALERT!!!!!! Be Advised: If you speak out against the Neo-Con, Right-Wing War Mongers, this website will remove your comment. This website is a service of Cheney and Company…..

    Hahahahahahaha.

    You’d think I’d be better paid, then.

    Or at least paid at all.

    I have this to console me: Whiskey Fire posts: Patterico is an asshole.

    So I got that goin’ for me. Which is nice.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  135. Hmmmm… You Republican people really aren’t worth a shit. As if all of you sat around all day solemnly monitoring the situation in Iran. As if you really give two squirts of piss about what happens in Iran. Hasn’t it been conservative orthodoxy for the past decade that ‘Everyone wants to go to Baghdad, real men want to go to Iran?’ I’m pretty sure it says something that conservatives are paying such close attention to pictures and videos of people being killed in Iran, while similar pictures out of Iraq were reflexively ignored. What does it say? I’m not sure. Probably that all Republicans are assholes.

    I just can’t stand you assholes strutting around pretending like you’re more humane and sympathetic than everyone else. What bullshit that is. The conservative movement gave away all claims to basic human decency over the course of the Bush years, do you remember those? I know you have – that’s how this works.

    Jason (863676)

  136. steve,

    I’m not giving Egypt credibility but I’m curious why it would take this position. Do you know?

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  137. “Any intelligent person knows Obama is playing it exactly right.”

    All I know is is that about ten years ago the liberal Democrats used military force against the FRY, when the FRY was killing its own citizens in the middle of an armed rebellion, even though the FRY wasn’t an enemy, but now, when a long time enemy of the United States appears to be gunning down unarmed protestors…all of a sudden liberals are adamantly against any kind of intervention at all.

    Something just doesn’t add up here.

    Dave Surls (6a53da)

  138. The conservative movement gave away all claims to basic human decency over the course of the Bush years, do you remember those?

    And goddamn liberals (or “progressives”) lost all credibility when they expressed more indignation about George Bush and America (and its war machine, or imperialism, or capitalism, or whatever) than about the Butcher of Baghdad. Even more so since most on the left love to believe their ideology instills in them an extra dose of humaneness and compassion.

    Mark (411533)

  139. Comment by Jason — 6/21/2009 @ 1:04 am

    Hmmmm… You Republican people really aren’t worth a shit. As if all of you sat around all day solemnly monitoring the situation in Iran.

    I did. I followed a bunch of others who did, who were following buckets of others who did, and so on. We aren’t even paid by the Federal Government to keep an eye on world situations.

    As if you really give two squirts of piss about what happens in Iran.

    I’ve cared a lot about what happens in Iran, since 1979 actually, when I was 11.

    Hasn’t it been conservative orthodoxy for the past decade that ‘Everyone wants to go to Baghdad, real men want to go to Iran?’

    My VRWC Marching Orders Handbook doesn’t mention that. Can you quote chapter and verse?

    I’m pretty sure it says something that conservatives are paying such close attention to pictures and videos of people being killed in Iran, while similar pictures out of Iraq were reflexively ignored.

    You’ve been watching Olberman, haven’t you? Obviously you don’t actually KNOW any conservatives and you believe what you see on MSNBC.

    What does it say? I’m not sure. Probably that all Republicans are assholes.

    Like the way all blacks can run fast, all Jews are greedy, all Arabs are cheats, all Hispanics are sexually immoral, all whites are racists, all Germans are anal, all Irish are drunks…

    Pot, meet Kettle.

    Vivian Louise (c0f830)

  140. [...] his own blog and at Hot Air, Patrick “Patterico” Frey has the surreal juxtaposition of purported [...]

    Iran Heats Up, Obama Goes for Ice Cream (139676)

  141. Image is the only thing which matters to the ‘intellectual’ which explains why Obama often projects a shallow and empty character.

    The world’s biggest celebrity is merely celluloid-fake and photo-shopped; it’s Hollywood paper-mached columns which props up Obama’s dillusions of grandeur.

    So Heil your Hopeyness Jason and Wheeler’s cat, it’s all you have left to crawl under.

    syn (8fd97c)

  142. Patterico:

    I have this to console me: Whiskey Fire posts: Patterico is an asshole.

    So while people are getting shot in Iran, you are concerned about what Whiskey Fire thinks of you?

    Willem van Oranje (5c85e8)

  143. “My goodness doesn’t anyone remember the Shaw of Iran?”

    Would that be George Bernard or Stanford J?

    pst314 (dbf8fd)

  144. Patterico: Why don’t [You] and Your [Ilk] being the Brave Patriotic Arm Chair-On the Outside Looking In-Faux-Patriots that You are….

    Create Your Own Militia [Brigade] and Flight Squadron and Drop Bombs on Iran, Show The iran Theocracy-Democracy how [We Do It] and Drop Bombs on Both Mousavi-Ahmadinejad Supporters.

    Oh Snap !!

    Bombs Don’t Discriminate…

    [THEY DESTROY EVERY ONE-EVERYBODY]!!!
    ——————————

    THAT’S WHAT SEMI-SENILE JOHN MCCAIN WOULD’VE DONE..HUH

    BOMB BOMB BOMB,BOMB BOMB [IRAN]

    I WAS JUST KIDDING…PLEASE

    HEY [TOUGH GUY]

    ARE YOU AN ENLISTED MAN ?

    ARE YOU A VETERAN ?

    HAVE YOU SERVED ON TOUR IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN ?

    IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS IS [NO]

    YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR [FAUX-PATRIOTIC MOUTH]!!

    PEOPLE LIKE YOU, NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME, NEVER.

    TALK PATRIOTISM,FIFGTING & WAR, AS LONG AS ITS NOT [YOU OR YOUR LOVE ONES] DOING THE FIGHTING.

    [COWARD]

    ITS NOT OUR CIVIL WAR AND THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS OWN WARS TO DEAL WITH,WITHOUT STICKING HIS NOSE IN [PERSIA'S BUSINESS] NOT ONE AMERICAN SHOULD DIE FOR THAT NATION.

    NO MATTER WHO TAKES OVER THAT NATION, THEY’LL ALWAYS BE ENEMIES OF THE [USA]

    MOUSAVI TALKS A GOO GAME…

    BUT HE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PERSON’S INVOLVED WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF [NUCLEAR POWER & WEAPONS] IN IRAN

    [YOU DUMMY]

    WITH IRANIAN LEADERS, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET OPPOSITION, NO MATTER WHO REPLACES WHO.

    MOUSAVI WOULD BE A MORE DIPLOMATIC PRESIDENT,BUT HE WOULD STILL PUSH FOR NUCLEAR EXPANSION, NO MATTER WHAT.

    BE CAREFUL FOR WHAT YOU DESIRE.

    OH SNAP !!

    AHMADINEJAD [DOES NOT] CONTROL THE MILIARY, THE SUPREME LEADER CONTROLS THE MILIARY AND THAT NATION’S POLICE AND MAKES ALL MILITARY DECISIONS, NOT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN…

    [FACTS]

    THE PRESIDENT OF THAT NATION IS LIKE A GOVERNOR OR PRESS SECRETARY..

    BIG DEAL

    MOUSAVI SHOULD HAVE ASPIRED THE TITLE OF SUPREME LEADER, HIM BEING PRESIDENT, HE WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE THEOCRACY OF THE [SUPREME LEADER] ANY WAY.

    WHEN YOU HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT,YOU ARE HEARING FORM THE SUPREME LEADER.

    [FACT]

    Omaar (9053bb)

  145. Did Axelrod start another astroturfing campaign? Where did this tsunami of stupid originate?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  146. More People were Killed in Iraq this Week than [Iraq] than in [Persia-Iran]During their Week Long Demonstrations, Friday in Iraq, 27 People were Killed [Bombed] 100 injured and we’re Talking as if Iran has Lost Thousands to Police Shootings.

    Republican Hypocrisy & Contradictions…

    During Bush’s Time [8Yrs]

    Iran was the Enemey and Helping the Iraqi’s and latter days of the Iraq War, McCain & Lieberman Wanted to Drop Bombs on Iran…

    Now McCain and his Double Mindedness Want the USA to intervene on Iran’s Behalf….

    Please.

    Leave Iranians to Sort out their Own Destiny, Without our Involvement, so they can Once Again…

    Blame the USA for its Ills.

    The Shah of Iran comes to Mind and Iran Contra Scandal come to Mind. They also Blamed Us Before the Election, Of Meddling and the Bombing of their [Mosque] Before the Election.

    That Nation Deserves all it gets.

    Some of You [THINK] Mousavi will KowTow To Us…

    HE WON’T …HE WILL NOT…

    He’ll just be More Diplomatic and Courteous, But He will DO what the Supreme Leader wants.

    Reality:He will Not become President of Iran, No Matter How Many Re-Casting of Votes.

    The New Gneration will Come Alive and they will Choose a man that is Not Tied to the Supreme Leader and [Mousavi] was Closely Tied to the Supreme Leader and Nuclear Proliferation [Fact]

    But Mousavi has Opened the Door for [Change] But he will [not] become President of Iran…

    That is [REALITY]

    Omaar (9053bb)

  147. The ice cream trip was Obama showing his considerate side. Buffalo Butt needed some quiet time to ponder which blue-eyed white I.G. to fire next.

    ewetender (83056f)

  148. The juxtaposition of the items about Obama’s taking his daughters for ice cream and the Iran atrocities is truly striking. I note the timings accompanying the items indicate the reporting of ice cream adventure apparently came before the Iran horror. From the way you presented the stories, I can reach only one conclusion, namely that Obama’s going for ice cream caused the shootings in Iran. Clearly, he should be impeached for so brazenly supporting the mullahs by taking his daughters for ice cream.

    You are to be commended for your use of quid pro hoc, ergo propter hoc.

    Phillip Teitlebaum (73709e)

  149. It makes me happy when The One™ makes demands on Israel to destroy itself and yet won’t lift a finger to support Iranian students shot in the streets while he goes out for an ice cream cone.

    Imagine if Bush did this — Michael Moore would be fulminating and planning a video. Instead, the loyal sycophants defend inaction as action.

    steve miller (ec51d8)

  150. OMAAR – Your use of ALL CAPS convinced me, convinced me that you and wheeler’s cat should go get a room, with padded walls.

    JD (6a02c8)

  151. [...] has been such a thorn in the side of America and the spread of democracy in the Middle East and the media thinks that covering Obama and his daughters having ice cream is news? [...]

    Barack Obama … Let the Iranians Eat Ice Cream … Where is the Support for Democracy & Human Rights from the White House? | Scared Monkeys (1b1833)

  152. The past twelve hours of comments have encapsulated why I stay away from LW sites -
    Progressives are petulent little children, incapable of rational discourse,
    whose only reason for being is to stand in the middle of the room screaming “look at me”.

    AD - RtR/OS! (33c17b)

  153. JD:IS THAT THE [BEST] YOU HAVE TO OFFER IN RESPONSE TO MY FACTS.

    TAKE YOUR A!! OVER THERE,GEAR UP AND DIE FOR THAT PERSIAN NATION [IRAN]

    PEOPLE LIKE YOU SWAY BACK & FORTH ON WHETHER IRAN IS THE THE [ENEMY OR FRIEND]

    THEY ARE NOT & WILL NEVER BE THIS NATION’S FRIEND…

    WE [USA] WILL ALWAYS BE A NATION OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE AND NOTHING MORE.

    IRANIANS BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION REVOLT, IS ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR [FRIENDS]

    PLEASE

    YOU ARE A LOW LIFE…

    START YOUR REVOLUTION,GEAR UP AND FORM YOUR MILITIA & FLIGHT SQUADRONS…

    TOUGH TALKING ARM CHAIR FAUX PATRIOTS…

    PUT UP OR SHUT UP !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  154. Obama should start shouting Allahu Akbar. That would make the wingnuts real happy.

    francis (23ad19)

  155. I’m a United States Air Force Veteran, Most of You Yacking about the USA Getting in a War with Iran, are [Stupid] if nothing else [Tough Talkers] Wanting to See [Death & Dis-Order] as long as its not You doing the [Actual Fighting] Just Sitting on the Sidelines Screaming [USA USA] Please this is Not an [NBA,NFL,MLB] OK
    ———————–

    Patterico: Why don’t [You] and Your [Ilk] being the Brave Patriotic Arm Chair-On the Outside Looking In-Faux-Patriots that You are….

    Create Your Own Militia [Brigade] and Flight Squadron and Drop Bombs on Iran, Show The iran Theocracy-Democracy how [We Do It] and Drop Bombs on Both Mousavi-Ahmadinejad Supporters.

    Oh Snap !!
    ————————

    Bombs Don’t Discriminate…

    [THEY DESTROY EVERY ONE-EVERYBODY]!!!
    ——————————

    THAT’S WHAT SEMI-SENILE JOHN MCCAIN WOULD’VE DONE..HUH

    BOMB BOMB BOMB,BOMB BOMB [IRAN]

    I WAS JUST KIDDING…PLEASE

    HEY [TOUGH GUY]

    ARE YOU AN ENLISTED MAN ?

    ARE YOU A VETERAN ?

    HAVE YOU SERVED ON TOUR IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN ?

    IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS IS [NO]

    YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR [FAUX-PATRIOTIC MOUTH]!!

    PEOPLE LIKE YOU, NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME, NEVER.

    TALK PATRIOTISM,FIGHTING & WAR, AS LONG AS ITS NOT…

    [YOU OR YOUR LOVE ONES] DOING THE FIGHTING.

    [COWARD]

    ITS NOT OUR CIVIL WAR AND THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS OWN WARS TO DEAL WITH,WITHOUT STICKING HIS NOSE IN [PERSIA'S BUSINESS] NOT ONE AMERICAN SHOULD DIE FOR THAT NATION.

    NO MATTER WHO TAKES OVER THAT NATION, THEY’LL ALWAYS BE ENEMIES OF THE [USA]

    MOUSAVI TALKS A GOO GAME…

    BUT HE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PERSON’S INVOLVED WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF [NUCLEAR POWER & WEAPONS] IN IRAN

    [YOU DUMMY]

    WITH IRANIAN LEADERS, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET OPPOSITION, NO MATTER WHO REPLACES WHO.

    MOUSAVI WOULD BE A MORE DIPLOMATIC PRESIDENT,BUT HE WOULD STILL PUSH FOR NUCLEAR EXPANSION, NO MATTER WHAT.

    BE CAREFUL FOR WHAT YOU DESIRE.

    OH SNAP !!

    AHMADINEJAD [DOES NOT] CONTROL THE MILIARY, THE SUPREME LEADER CONTROLS THE MILIARY AND THAT NATION’S POLICE AND MAKES ALL MILITARY DECISIONS, NOT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN…

    [FACTS]

    THE PRESIDENT OF THAT NATION IS LIKE A GOVERNOR OR PRESS SECRETARY..

    BIG DEAL

    MOUSAVI SHOULD HAVE ASPIRED THE TITLE OF SUPREME LEADER, HIM BEING PRESIDENT, HE WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE THEOCRACY OF THE [SUPREME LEADER] ANY WAY.

    WHEN YOU HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT,YOU ARE HEARING FROM THE SUPREME LEADER.

    [FACT]

    Omaar (9053bb)

  156. Do they not have a working caps lock key in the Basij headquarters?

    steve miller (ec51d8)

  157. Wow, the COPYPASTA is really convincing me, trolls.

    I’m reminded of the saying “You start drawing fire when you’re near a target”. The fecklessness of The One Lightworker MUST NOT be examined!!

    Techie (482700)

  158. [...] enchants you, Mr. President?” Zeleny’s hard-hitting report, and Patterico’s compare-and-contrast between an Iranian dissident and an American busboy. And then try to imagine the NYT’s coverage if Bush had pulled a stupid stunt like this on a [...]

    The Greenroom » Forum Archive » Obama Snacked, Iranians Got Whacked (e2f069)

  159. COPY PASTE FACTS, NOT FICTION OR LOW LIFE [LIES]

    I’LL COPY PASTE IT AGAIN, IF YOU WISH

    ARM CHAIR TOUGH TALKING [FAUX-PATRIOTS]

    MOST OF YOU YACKING,HAVE NEVER SERVED IN THE U.S. MILITARY, [YOU COWARDS] AS JESSE VENTURA RIGHTLY CALL YOU [CHICKEN HAWKS] BANNER WAVING PUNKS

    HEY [TOUGH GUY]

    ARE YOU AN ENLISTED MAN ?

    ARE YOU A VETERAN ?

    HAVE YOU SERVED ON TOUR IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN ?

    IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS IS [NO]

    YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR [FAUX-PATRIOTIC MOUTH]!!

    PEOPLE LIKE YOU, NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME, NEVER.

    TALK PATRIOTISM,FIGHTING & WAR, AS LONG AS ITS NOT…

    [YOU OR YOUR LOVE ONES] DOING THE FIGHTING.

    [COWARD]

    ITS NOT OUR CIVIL WAR AND THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS OWN WARS TO DEAL WITH,WITHOUT STICKING HIS NOSE IN [PERSIA'S BUSINESS] NOT ONE AMERICAN SHOULD DIE FOR THAT NATION.

    NO MATTER WHO TAKES OVER THAT NATION, THEY’LL ALWAYS BE ENEMIES OF THE [USA]

    MOUSAVI TALKS A GOO GAME…

    BUT HE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PERSON’S INVOLVED WITH THE PROLIFERATION OF [NUCLEAR POWER & WEAPONS] IN IRAN

    [YOU DUMMY]

    WITH IRANIAN LEADERS, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET OPPOSITION, NO MATTER WHO REPLACES WHO.

    MOUSAVI WOULD BE A MORE DIPLOMATIC PRESIDENT,BUT HE WOULD STILL PUSH FOR NUCLEAR EXPANSION, NO MATTER WHAT.

    BE CAREFUL FOR WHAT YOU DESIRE.

    OH SNAP !!

    AHMADINEJAD [DOES NOT] CONTROL THE MILIARY, THE SUPREME LEADER CONTROLS THE MILIARY AND THAT NATION’S POLICE AND MAKES ALL MILITARY DECISIONS, NOT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN…

    [FACTS]

    THE PRESIDENT OF THAT NATION IS LIKE A GOVERNOR OR PRESS SECRETARY..

    BIG DEAL

    Omaar (9053bb)

  160. WE ARE NOT THE WORLD [POLICE] PRESIDENT OBAMA SHOULD STAY CLEAR OF THIS IRAN NONSENSE

    Note that the troll thinks it’s nonsense but keeps spamming the list with all caps crap.

    Boy was it a good idea to go to bed when I did last night !

    Mike K (90939b)

  161. George Will: Today Summed up what I’ve Concluded about Mousavi, he’d still be a [Pro-Nuclear President] because he was one of the Main Components in the Proliferation of Nuclear Power & Weapons in Iran.

    George Will said Today, You don’t know what You’ll be getting with Mousavi, because of his Close ties to the Curent Power Structure ..

    Like wise, Ahmadinejad & the Supreme Leader’s National-International Policies & Rhetoric will Forever be [Changed] even if they Retain Power, based on Current Events Unfolding in Iran, it will be Forever Changed,going Forward.

    Omaar (9053bb)

  162. Oh my goodness, it’s Baghdad Bob!

    Techie (482700)

  163. Glad someone fixed the troll’s caps broken caps lock key. But the real problem is its broken logic.

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407)

  164. [...] Snickers or a Milky Way today while they again rise up for freedom.    Subsequently, Patterico has an excellent compare and contrast piece on Obama’s Big Ice Cream Adventure as reported by CBS and what was going on in Iran.  It’s [...]

    ABC News Fail « (170906)

  165. I trust you have been fasting during the last week.

    Bill (3c2a6d)

  166. It could be Fathers Day in Iran too…

    But not for the father of this girl. He will never again know the simple joy of his daughter’s embrace.

    Some Fathers Day traditions remain intact. President Obama took his daughters for ice cream. Twitter tells us it was at exactly the same time ….

    The WyBlog (59ce3a)

  167. Everything we knew about Moussavi before June 12 is old information. This revolution, if that is what it is, has changed everything. Remember Gorbachev ?

    Mike K (90939b)

  168. Hey Omaar:

    Hey “toughguy”. I’m a former ARMY SFC and Iraq War veteran. You ain’t shit. Personally, I’d had leveled several countries in the Middle East on 12 September 2001, including Iran, but I’m a former Soldier, not a diplomat.
    Iran has been responsible for the spread of terrorism, including the support of Hezbollah and the Mahdi Army in Iraq. (http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/irans-contribution-to-terrorism-in-iraq/)
    But if there’s a chance we can help destroy the Islamofascist bastards from within, lets do it.

    I got your “faux patriot”, asshat.

    SFC MAC (28903b)

  169. ITS NOT OUR CIVIL WAR AND THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS OWN WARS TO DEAL WITH.

    Although I think an isolationist policy generally is naive and foolish, I don’t mind it being espoused by people who truly admire and value the US. Moreover, I do think the points raised by George Will about the inherent fanaticism and unreliability of Iran, regardless of its leadership, are accurate. However, you give away your overall political biases when you write:

    WE [USA] WILL ALWAYS BE A NATION OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE AND NOTHING MORE.

    …which indicates a Blame-America-First idiocy, common among a high percentage of the left. Therefore, I have a suspicion you won’t be quite as bothered if Barry goes against your pro- isolationist mindset, certainly as it applies to Iran and Iraq, and sticks his big brown nose (literally and figuratively—since he appears to love being a brown noser towards US’s greatest enemies) into the affairs of Israel.

    So if you (or others like you) tell Barry to keep his big yap shut about the never-ending and intractable mess that is Palestine, I’ll know that your worldview may be more sensible than it otherwise appears to be.

    I’LL COPY PASTE IT AGAIN, IF YOU WISH

    You really shouldn’t–that and all the caps make you look kind of deranged.

    Mark (411533)

  170. “WITH IRANIAN LEADERS, YOU WILL ALWAYS GET OPPOSITION, NO MATTER WHO REPLACES WHO.”

    That’s easy to fix. Bomb Iran and kill them all.

    No more mad mullahs….no more problem.

    Dave Surls (f94dc0)

  171. Wow, what a pleasure it was to read above that Senator Lugar is a “right-winger”! We in Indiana had thought he had retired but forgot to tell us. Here, all along he’s apparently been a closet “right-winger”! Yet supporting what The O is doing.

    Live and learn.

    Linda Polizotto (fcf01d)

  172. “Personally, I’d had leveled several countries in the Middle East on 12 September 2001…”

    Hear, hear!

    And, it’s never too late to start leveling state sponsors of terrorism.

    Dave Surls (f94dc0)

  173. CHICKEN DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM SUPPORTERS !!!!!!!!!!!!

    JD (4e3101)

  174. No one seems to realize that Obama doesn’t recognize election irregularities and dare not condemn thuggery, not after giving ACORN $4 billion to expand their good works. And he’s working hard to eliminate freedom in the U.S., so why would he encourage it in Iran?

    Doesn’t really leave him with a lot of options in dealing with Iran. And don’t forget, if things get so bad in Iran that the oil markets are disrupted and gasoline prices skyrocket, it just makes it easier for him to push for “independence from foreign oil,” aka electric cars (charged with electricity made by big, modern windmills).

    Taking the kids out for ice cream is one of his better options.

    Linda Polizotto (fcf01d)

  175. Linda Polizotto: ACORN MYTH more Borderline Bull-Spit !!

    Blacks make up ONLY 12% of the Population…Period.

    Can’t WIN a National Election on that alone and Most Blacks Don’t Vote in Large Numbers,but when they DO, they VOTE Democratic, Like they have for DECADES.

    Ask Bill Clinton, Al Gore & John Kerry

    Show me a Actual Vote of a Million Mickey mouses,Daisy Ducks or Daisy Dukes,Michael Jacksons or Michael Jordans in Any state.

    McCain & Palin did’nt get to [200 Electoral votes]

    Obama Won 360 Electoral Votes and Over 60 million Voters.

    Wheres the 60 Million Black Votes ?

    Obama Won Across All Color Lines…

    See You later Sean Hannity & Glenn Beck Worshippers

    Republican Acorn Men: Bonafide & Certifide Acorn Men…

    John McCain, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tim Pawlenty,Charlie Crist,Rick Perry & Mitt Romney Supported & Passed Legislation on ACORN’S Behalf.

    Where’s the Outrage by False Media, I mean Fox News Media ?

    Bill oreily has said that ACORN is [Small Potatoes] in this Process..

    I Guess He’s an ACORN Man

    Omaar (9053bb)

  176. You really shouldn’t–that and all the caps make you look kind of deranged.

    By their ALL CAPS shall ye know them. . .

    Brother Bradley J. Fikes, C.O.R. (0ea407)

  177. “That’s easy to fix. Bomb Iran and kill them all.”

    But what about the ice cream?

    francis (cccb92)

  178. #181

    Who left the door to the loony-bin unlocked?

    Dave Surls (f94dc0)

  179. Comment by Omaar —

    Defining stupidity down!

    AD - RtR/OS! (33c17b)

  180. ITS NOT OUR CIVIL WAR AND THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS OWN WARS TO DEAL WITH.

    OMORRON – Why are you making up positions of people that have not been articulated here? It just makes you look even more stupid. Heck, according to Sy Hersh, probably one of your heroes, we’ve already invaded Iran seven times already.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  181. “But what about the ice cream?”

    Bomb Iran, kill all the mullahs, THEN you can have some ice cream.

    Dave Surls (f94dc0)

  182. “Who left the door to the loony-bin unlocked?”

    allahu akbar!

    francis (cccb92)

  183. OMORRON – Can you tell us how good the Jooooos have it in Iran please? That’s always fun to hear from your ilk.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  184. SFC MAC; YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER ARYAN,NAZI KKK, TEA BAGGIN,PEDOPHILE,MASS GENOCIDAL HATE MONGER.

    YOU BELONG WITH THAT RACIST WW2 VETERAN,WHO KILLED THAT INNOCENT HARD WORKING SECURITY GUARD AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM,YOU & THAT RACIST HATE MONGER,HAVE TONS IN COMMON.

    YOU’D DROP BOMBS ON ALL THOSE NATIONS,

    TOUGH TALKING FAUX-PATRIOT BULL-SPIT !!

    THAT’S WHY THEY KICKED YOUR LOW LIFE A!! OUIT OF THE MILITARY..

    I HOPE THE FBI AND HOME LAND SECURITY CHECK THAT RANT OF YOUR OUT.

    ARM CHAIR WARRIOR-CHICKEN HAWK

    Omaar (9053bb)

  185. You LOW LIFES wouldn’t know youy Ear Holes From Your A!! Holes WithOut False News Distinguishing the Holes for You.

    I Mean Fox News.

    You Still Mad as hell that Obama Kicked McCain-Palin’s A!!

    That Sad A!! Ticket

    ——————

    A Bunch of Low Life [JOHNNY RED REBS] Yacking Mad Over a BiRacial Man Winning the Presidency

    Hahahahahaha !!

    I’m Laughing My a!1 Off at the Lot of You and the Owner of this Blog !!

    McCain & Palin did’nt get to [200 Electoral votes]

    Obama Won 360 Electoral Votes and Over 60 million Voters.

    Wheres the 60 Million Black Votes ?

    Obama Won Across All Color Lines…

    See You later Sean Hannity & Glenn Beck Worshippers

    Republican Acorn Men: Bonafide & Certifide Acorn Men…

    John McCain, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tim Pawlenty,Charlie Crist,Rick Perry & Mitt Romney Supported & Passed Legislation on ACORN’S Behalf.

    Where’s the Outrage by False Media, I mean Fox News Media ?

    Bill O’Reily has said that ACORN is ..

    [Small Potatoes] in this Process..

    I Guess He’s an ACORN Man

    Omaar (9053bb)

  186. I think that OMAAR! the lying douchebag chickenCaterpillar speed bump human shield is trying to make nishi look sane.

    JD (00531d)

  187. Time for the host to have a look at what the cat dragged in.

    Sir, this is not the loony bin. You have taken a wrong turn. I understand how that can happen when your head is spinning around.

    Mike K (90939b)

  188. OMAAR IS A BRAVE FOOT SOLDIER IN ALLAH’S ARMY AND WHEN HE QUITS BEING A CHICKEN MARTYR AND LOPS HIS MELON OFF WITH A RUSTY SCIMTAR WHILE OTHER CRAZED JIHADIIS STAND IN THE BACKGROUND YELLING LALALALALALA AND BANGING THEIR SCIMTARS ON THEIR FOREHEADS TO PROVE THE DEPTH OF THEIR DEVOTION HE WILL GET A FAT FAT VIRGIN WRAPPED IN GRAPE LEAVES.

    PEACE BE UPON HIM (00531d)

  189. Crazy clean-up on thread.

    Techie (482700)

  190. By their ALL CAPS shall ye know them. . .

    I now realize I gave him more benefit of the doubt than he deserved. Other than his statement about the US being a “nation of political convenience,” his comments regarding the duplicity of Iran made him sound more sensible and reasonable than he actually is. So I wasn’t 100% sure he was one of those usual-suspect leftwingers.

    But his nonsensical rationalizations about ACORN, and his apparent approval of (or lack of unhappiness about) most blacks in the US being in lock-step with the Democrat Party/liberalism, makes it obvious he cares about the ins and outs of Iran only in how they reflect on the guy now in the Oval Office.

    BTW, mindless pro-Democrat-Party (pro-”lefty”) thinking throughout a large portion of black America is a major reason why I think various forms of socio-economic dysfunction have been so hard to root out of that part of society.

    Mark (411533)

  191. It doesn’t make two licks of difference to the outcome in Iran whether BO does or not get ice cream at some point during the crsis. BTW, Ron Reagan spent most of his second term watching movies. And people fighting for freedom were being gunned down in squads, as they have been in most days of most years across the world. You weren’t concerned. So either pleasure is morally unacceptable in an unjust world and you’ve just decided this – in which case I suspect you’re a hypocrite – or you blame in Obama what you tolerate in others – in which case you’re also a hypocrite. Did John Boehner eat ice cream during this crisis?? Shouldn’t we expect republicans to really, truly care about freedom to the point of ice cream abstinence? etc, etc, etc?

    Congrats, Pat, on the full-blown ODS. Good to know I haven’t missed much relevant to policy or empirical cause and effect.

    glasnost (206f4e)

  192. George Will

    George Will, asked to respond by George Stephanopoulos to Republican criticism of President Obama for not being forceful enough in injecting himself rhetorically into the controversy surrounding the Iranian election, said that “it seemed to me foolish criticism” (H/t Think Progress):

    The president is being roundly criticized for insufficient, rhetorical support for what’s going on over there. It seems to me foolish criticism. The people on the streets know full well what the American attitude toward the regime is. And they don’t need that reinforced.

    You Nut Jobs are the [Nuts] Will is Referring to…

    Bye Bye Nut Jobs…You Low Life Looney Toons

    Omaar (9053bb)

  193. Glasnost – Good to see that you continue to be able to get the point.

    OMAAR! RULEZ! NEOCONZ DROOL!

    JD (00531d)

  194. Another Republican Sounds Off on [Iran Talks]

    —————-

    A top Republican senator says the United States should still sit down with Iran, despite postelection turmoil in Tehran.

    Sen. Richard Lugar says the U.S. has a goal of containing Iran’s nuclear ambition. He says the two countries should meet even though there are protests in Tehran over this month’s presidential vote.

    Lugar, R-Ind., says President Barack Obama or Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton should be ready to meet with their Iranian counterparts.

    Lugar spoke to CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    Omaar (9053bb)

  195. OMAAR PwNeD you wingerz!

    JD (00531d)

  196. PEACE BE UPON HIM —

    HEY DUMB A!!…

    1. I’M NOT A MUSLIM

    2. I’M MOST ASSUREDLY AM NOT A SO CALLED [CHRISTIAN]

    3. NOT A FOLLOWER OF [JUDAISM]EITHER

    I BELIEVE IN [GOD] AND THAT’S ALL I HAVE TO BELIEVE IN.

    THE OTHER THREE RELIGIONS NOTED ABOVE ARE THE [BANE] OF HUMAN EXISTENCE,RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE WARS AND MASS DEATHS THAN ANY OTHER RELIGIONS.
    ————————

    YOU DOUBLE MINDED LOW LIFES ARE SOMETHING ELSE.

    WHEN DID IRAN-PERSIA BECOME A [CHRISTIAN NATION] HA !!

    OH I GET GET IT…

    MOUSAVI: HIS FOLLOWERS ARE NOW [CHRISTIAN] MIRACULOUS ALL IN THE SPAN OF ONE ELECTION !!

    AHMADINEJAD: HIS FOLLOWERS ARE MUSLIM HUH

    YOU DUMB A!! [MOTHER LOVERS]

    THEY ALL SHOUT ALLAH HU AKBAR [DUMB A!!]

    THEY ARE ALL [MUSLIM]

    THAT WON’T CHANGE WITH EITHER PRESIDENT..

    THEY STILL SHOUT THE SAME THING,THEY SUPPORT THEIR GUY..

    JEEZ LOUISE

    —————-

    IF YOU [LOW LIFE MOTHER LOVERS] ARE CHRISTIAN..

    THEN ALL RACIST ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THE CROSS AND QUOTE THE BIBLE ARE [HOLY SAINTS]

    Omaar (9053bb)

  197. Talk about a beclowning.

    Techie (482700)

  198. BIGOTS RULE OMAAR !

    JD (da8b51)

  199. Catch the differential spelling issues? This is a person I think we know? What say you, JD?

    Eric Blair (a5d4c8)

  200. No way. This is a full on barking moonbat.of the nishi type order.

    JD (da8b51)

  201. YOU DOUBLE MINDED LOW LIFES ARE SOMETHING ELSE.

    WHEN DID IRAN-PERSIA BECOME A [CHRISTIAN NATION] HA !!

    OH I GET GET IT…
    ——————–

    MOUSAVI: AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE NOW [CHRISTIAN] MIRACULOUS,BECAUSE IT HAPPENED ALL IN THE SPAN OF ONE ELECTION !!

    AHMADINEJAD: HIS FOLLOWERS ARE MUSLIM HUH

    YOU DUMB A!! [MOTHER LOVERS]

    THEY ALL SHOUT ALLAH HU AKBAR [DUMB A!!]

    THEY ARE ALL [MUSLIM]

    THAT WON’T CHANGE WITH EITHER PRESIDENT..

    THEY STILL SHOUT THE SAME THING,THEY SUPPORT THEIR GUY..

    JEEZ LOUISE

    ——————————

    IF YOU [LOW LIFE MOTHER LOVERS] ARE CHRISTIANS..

    THE DALAI LAMA: IS A [JEHOVAH'S WITNESS]

    SUNG MOON:IS A [7TH DAY ADVENTIST]

    PAT ROBERTSON:IS A FOLLOWER OF THE[BAHAI FAITH]

    HAHAHAHAHA !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  202. IF YOU [LOW LIFE MOTHER LOVERS] ARE CHRISTIANS..

    THE DALAI LAMA: IS A [JEHOVAH'S WITNESS]

    SUNG MOON:IS A [7TH DAY ADVENTIST]

    PAT ROBERTSON:IS A FOLLOWER OF THE[BAHAI FAITH]

    HAHAHAHAHA !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  203. Omaar,

    Please eliminate the ALL CAPS if you want anyone to read what you write.

    DRJ (cdbef5)

  204. DRJ – this one is fun. Not sure who it is arguing with, but it is making me laugh.

    JD (da8b51)

  205. You really shouldn’t–that and all the caps make you look kind of deranged.

    FIFY.

    That is one sick puppy.

    Somebody check his meds.

    Please.

    BTW, the more he posts, the more George Soros and David Axelrod pay him out of ACORN’s stolen funds.

    either orr (6c9faf)

  206. “THEY ALL SHOUT ALLAH HU AKBAR [DUMB A!!]”

    OMOORON – I thought they all said “Aloha Snackbar.” Can you please clarify?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  207. OMOORON – You seem to be hung up on religion. All conservatives are not fundamentalist god bothering xtians, but an ignerrant progressive talking point spewer such as yourself probably would not know that. There are not too many fundies here to my knowledge. If you want some recommendations of other places to vomit your bigotry, those can be supplied.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  208. The troll keeps posting that he is leaving.

    Kind like #198

    But he never does.

    How can we miss him if he doesn’t go away?

    Oh, I’m sorry:

    HOW CAN WE MISS HIM IF HE DOESN”T GO AWAY???

    (looking furtively for those UN black helicopters closing in).

    Eric Blair (5a226d)

  209. So because there’s a crisis happening somewhere else in the world — one on whichObama is certainly being updated frequently — he needs to ignore every other aspect of his life until the Iran situation is settled?

    What amazes me more is that anyone cares what sort of ice cream Obama and his kids ordered. And that anyone would bother tweeting about it, much less half a dozen tweets. Knoller really needs to find better things to do with his time.

    jon (451c42)

  210. jon – I assume you decried all of that whemn Bush was in office, right? All the idiocy about being on vacation, playing golf, eating cake, playing guitar, etc …?

    JD (da8b51)

  211. “So because there’s a crisis happening somewhere else in the world — one on whichObama is certainly being updated frequently — he needs to ignore every other aspect of his life until the Iran situation is settled?”

    jon – Life is a bitch isn’t it? It’s sort of like the left always assumed Bush was completely out of touch at his ranch in Crawford or when he was flying over New Orleans instead of landing that was the wrong thing to do. Criticizing is easy, but governing is hard, right, especially when you’re as clueless as Obama.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  212. MOUSAVI: AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE NOW [CHRISTIAN] MIRACULOUS,BECAUSE IT HAPPENED ALL IN THE SPAN OF ONE ELECTION !!

    AHMADINEJAD: HIS FOLLOWERS ARE MUSLIM HUH

    YOU DUMB A!! [MOTHER LOVERS]

    THEY ALL SHOUT ALLAH HU AKBAR [DUMB A!!]

    THEY ARE ALL [MUSLIM]

    THAT WON’T CHANGE WITH EITHER PRESIDENT..

    THEY STILL SHOUT THE SAME THING,THEY SUPPORT THEIR GUY..

    JEEZ LOUISE

    ————————-
    IF YOU LOW LIFES ARE CHRISTIAN…

    I’M A SCIENTOLOGIST AND CLOSE FRIEND OF WILL SMITH,JOHN TRAVOLTA AND TOM CRUISE

    YOU LOW LIFE [MOTHER LOVERS]
    ——————-

    THE DALAI LAMA: IS A [JEHOVAH'S WITNESS]

    SUNG MUNG MOON:IS A [7TH DAY ADVENTIST]

    PAT ROBERTSON:IS A FOLLOWER OF THE[BAHAI FAITH]

    HAHAHAHAHA !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  213. OMORON – Scientology isn’t a religion, it’s a cult. Why didn’t you get your GED while you were in the service?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  214. Moussavi/Palin 2012!

    SomeNYGuy (e80834)

  215. Hey, daley, I think that the troll is just…well, trolling at that point. Oh well.

    WE CAN’T MISS HIM IF HE DOESN’T GO AWAY.

    Right?

    Eric Blair (2708f4)

  216. http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7891932

    George Will:”Iran will Never be the Same there,whether or not, that’s a good thing,that’s another matter”

    Sam Donaldson: “Iran is a Muslim Country, no matter the change and it will be a Muslim Country,in the Foreseeable Future,It won’t Change in My Lifetime, it’s not Possible ”

    As I’ve stated to You Low Lifes, Iran-Persia are Muslim and that will Not Change, no Matter what.

    The Supreme Leader Makes All Military Decisions, Not the President of Iran, But the Supreme Leader of Iran.

    Omaar (9053bb)

  217. So, Patterico & Co., can we put you down as ardent Moussavi supporters, just for future reference? Because there’s no way that’s ever going to come back to bite you in the ass. Just not possible. Uh-uh. Word.

    SomeNYGuy (e80834)

  218. I suggest medication. Stat.

    Eric Blair (2708f4)

  219. Poland is Catholic, do they get all of their directions from the Pope?

    AD - RtR/OS! (33c17b)

  220. [...] Patterico has compared the tweets from Tehran with those from CBS’s White House correspondent Mark Knoller, who was on Ice Cream Watch tonight. [...]

    Tone Deaf: Will Media Give Obamas’ Ice Cream Outing the ‘Bush Golf Treatment’? (14de75)

  221. SomeNYGuy – Can we put you down as an ardent supporter of Castro? Chavez?

    JD (da8b51)

  222. 1. President Obama, has 2 Ongoing Wars in the Middle East, Financed by [Communist-Socialist China] to the Price tag of 20 Billion Per Month with Interest and Climbing.

    2. President Obama has a Maniac in North Korea Threatening to [Nuke] Hawaii,Alaska Or Japan !!

    3. An Economy on [Life Support]

    4. Dealing With Pakistan, Walking a Tight Rope.

    5. National Health Insurance.

    6. Getting 2 American Auto Industries back on Track.

    7.This Week, Receiving 70 Billion Dollars [TARP $$] back from Recovering Banks and Waiting on More TARP $$

    8.High Unemployment

    9.China & Russia have More Interest and Investments in Iran, Let them [Police Iran] Let them Handle Iran, for a Damn Change.

    Every Time We get Involved with those Damn People,it Goes Dreadfully Wrong,for Us.

    We Need to Keep Focus on Our Nation and Ending these 2 Occupations, in the Middle East, Not Perpetuate or Escalate this Iranian Issue.

    Iranian People Need to take Care of this Problem. its Their Civil war, Not Ours.

    All People Concerned with Taking Up Arms to Defend Iranians, Go Build a Militia & Flight Squadron and Drop Bombs On Iran, Bombs Don’t Don’t Disriminate, as to Mousavi or Ahmadinejad’s Followers.

    BIG NOTE: WE ARE NOT THE WORLD [POLICE] !!STAY OUT OF THIS AFFAIR…

    PERIOD !!

    Omaar (9053bb)

  223. Can we put you down as an ardent supporter of Castro? Chavez?

    Gee, when did I (or anyone) call upon the President of the United States to intervene in their internal problems? Straw-man much? Red-bait much?

    SomeNYGuy (e80834)

  224. I THINK WE SHOULD CALL THE INTERNATIONAL POLICE AND HAVE OMAAR BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES FOR ILLEGAL USE OF ALL CAPS AND BIZARRE USE OF PUNCTUATION AND OBJECTIVELY BIZARRE BRHAVIOR AND MULTIPLE COUNTS OF ILLEGAL STRAWPERSON BURNING.

    That is all.

    And, Kyoto.

    JD (da8b51)

  225. Nobody here is asking Teh One to intervene. You introduced the strawman to the discussion. I just showed you, with your device, how silly it is.

    JD (da8b51)

  226. [...] from the right (Patterico notes that President Obama took his daughters for ice cream while Iranian protesters were …), the President is being criticized for not doing enough. Donald Douglas has been all over the [...]

    Common Sense Political Thought » Blog Archive » Dana Pico defends Barack Obama; in other news, Hell freezes over. (73d96f)

  227. [...] to be doing while folks in Iran are being beaten to death and shot down like dogs in the street? Patterico has a post full of startling contrasts. Yes, kudos to the President for finally issuing a statement criticizing the Iranian government for [...]

    Despite Murder and Brutality, They Still March in Iran : The Sundries Shack (9cf8b6)

  228. [...] Nia-Malika Henderson reports on Obama’s new initiative to promote fatherhood.  James Joyner sees this as a valuable use of the President’s time, noting that he can only do so much in Iran.  Patrick Frey argues that the President should be more focused on the crisis. [...]

    Weekly Web Watch 06/15/09 – 06/21/09 « EXECUTIVE WATCH (1c6b20)

  229. How to use Twitter to make anyone look like a morally odious lout.*…

    Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: Cruel_Cruel_death: SEK: *Because when I call something a cheap rhetorical trick, I d…

    Acephalous (95cfaf)

  230. [...] Father’s Day, it’s also not overly newsworthy, but will be slobbered over regardless. Patterico has an eye-opening contrast between the Twitter feeds of an Iranian student and a CBS news [...]

    Iranian crisis continues « Wellsy’s World (054690)

  231. [...] In an tone deaf moment that would have sunk a Republican president, President Obama took his daughters for ice cream on Saturday as Iranians, including women, were beaten, shot and killed in the streets protesting a patently repressive regime. Several bloggers have put together side-by-side comparisons of the twittering of Obama’s ice cream social and the nearly simultaneous violence in Iran. [...]

    Weekend Download (June 19 – 21) | Daily Danet (87daef)

  232. It is absolutely immoral for any American president to do anything that isn’t deadly serious while anything awful is happening anywhere in the world!!!!!

    Do you know how stupid that is?

    Mike (f4c4ba)

  233. [...] don’t agree with this post, but instead of saying horrible things about its author, I responded by pointing out the problem [...]

    Sometimes those great notions, well, they believe their hype. « The Edge of the American West (565823)

  234. If You Low Lifes are [Christian]….

    I’m a Shaolin [Munk]

    If You Low Lifes are [Christian]

    I’m [L.Ron Hubbard]

    If You Low Lifes are Christian ….

    I’m a Rev. Sung Mung Moon of the [Unification Church]

    You Low Lifes are Arm Chair TV Warrior…

    Typical [Hate Mongers]

    Those Persians will Never be Our Allies [NEVER] No Matter whose [President]

    Mousavi was one of the Leaders in Iran Becoming [Nuclear] and He still would Persue Iran becoming [Nuclear]

    Again: Go Create your own Brigades & Flight Squadrons and Bomb Both Mousavi & Ahmadinejad Supporters, because Bombs Don’t Discriminate, People do…

    After the Bombings Occur, Both Iranian Groups will Call the US [MURDERERS] then the [USA] will have Started the…

    3rd Middle East War [Afghanistan,Iraq & Iran]

    Obama is Right,let the Persians Sort it out on their own, Do Not Involve this Nation in their Civil War and those People have had many Civil Wars,they are a Warring Group if ever there was,just ask their Next Door Neighbor [Iraq]

    Bye Bye You Low Lifes

    Omaar (9053bb)

  235. [...] Obama went out for ice cream with his daughters and spent time golfing. The White House twittered a bizarre account of the Obama’s trip to get ice cream. Yet another cute story of the cute Obama’s doing [...]

    Neda’s Death is Face of Iranian Revolution (Videos) » Blue Star Chronicles (21913e)

  236. Bye Bye You Low Lifes

    Damn, you do end up coming off like a leftwing loon.

    When I read studies that indicate a larger percentage of liberals, in fact, are both less happy and less generous than conservatives, I visualize people like you.

    Mark (411533)

  237. http://www.rferl.org/content/Tehran_Again_Blames_Western_Meddling/1759571.html

    The Great Mousavi Speaks:He’s a Islamist, So Mushc for Him being a Difference in Iranian Politics..Huh

    Radio Free Europe:Opposition champion Musavi reportedly issued what some regard as a landmark statement on his website over the weekend, urging his countrymen to “call the People to the [Islamic Revolution] the way that it was and to the [Islamic Republic] the way that it [Should Be]”

    This is the Guy You…

    [Low Life,Egg Sucking Dogs Want as President of Iran] Ha Ha Ha !!

    A Islamic Persian is a Islamic Persian, No Matter What !!

    Big A!! Note: Musavi dismissed suggestions that the discontent was inspired by foreign governments, saying…

    “How unfair are those whose puny interests force them to see the miracle of the [Islamic Revolution] as the work of foreigners and call it a ‘Velvet Revolution’!”

    Omaar (9053bb)

  238. THE OTHER THREE RELIGIONS NOTED ABOVE ARE THE [BANE] OF HUMAN EXISTENCE,RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE WARS AND MASS DEATHS THAN ANY OTHER RELIGIONS.

    Ahhh except for Atheism. Mao and Stalin rang up quite the butcher’s bill. Killed more people then Gengis. More people then the Romans. More people then the flu or malaria.

    The thing is you pile up all the beheadins, the Biblical flood victims, and the Hitites being driven out of Judea, and scoop them into one big ball of human goop, it aint a patch on what commies have done in just the last hundred years.

    papertiger (da26af)

  239. [...] So disappointed with the President’s savvy and sober way of dealing with the chaos, they flocked to a right-wing post yesterday in which David Patterico ‘contrasted’ (*cough*) what the protesters were suffering and what Obama was doing (getting ice cream with the kids) by way of cherry-picking a list of Twitter messages. [...]

    Conservatives want stronger statement on Iran, so Powerline provides one and ample reason why Conservatives should avoid issuing statements « thump and whip (bcec6e)

  240. Obama is just following his hard-left instincts and siding with the tyrants as the left has a long history (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Mugabe) of doing.

    He doesn’t want to piss off the Mullahs because visions of a Nobel Peace Prize dance in his head if he can negotiate a nuclear treaty with them… regardless of whether Iran develops nuclear weapons, which, of course, they will.

    Gregory of Yardale (364997)

  241. Bye Bye You Low Lifes

    Last year we were infested by a troll who kept saying bye-bye, but would never leave – until it was banned.
    Same virus?

    AD - RtR/OS! (7cda43)

  242. Sheesh, the weird ones are coming out.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  243. y’all ever seen schindler’s list, when oscar schindler stumbles around, despairing that he didn’t do enough to save all the jews? y’all remember that scene as overwrought and mawkish? and do y’all REALLY think the half-hour obama spent gettin’ some ice cream woulda made the difference? this is a shabby cheap shot, people.

    johnston (44a58c)

  244. johnston, you don’t seem to get the point of the posting.

    And by the way, did you condemn as a “shabby cheap shot”, each time the same rhetorical device was used against George W. Bush?

    SPQR (72771e)

  245. No, it did not, SPQR. It was a nifty argument wheb they did it.

    JD (355e34)

  246. [...] Contrast: Iranian Protestors Shot As Obama Goes for Ice Cream Breaking:  “Mr. Doolittle’s’ dog likes pumpkin ice cream.  Good to see ‘Mr. Doolittle’ has his priorities straight.  (Been my experience that dogs will eat any sort of ice cream even a flavor as yucky as pumpkin) [...]

    Today’s Tidbits (788229)

  247. “this is a shabby cheap shot, people.”

    It’s totally fine with me if Obama takes his kids out for ice cream.

    Nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see.

    Dave Surls (5cc12c)

  248. [...] What looked like great political theater in the planning stages was perceived by many as indifference in the execution.  He just didn’t anticipate how some would [...]

    GayPatriot » A Burkean View of Obama’s Ice Cream Excursion:Or, how Political Theater Only Works in the Right Circumstances (60f32e)

  249. Hope and change, for some.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  250. [...] I leave up to you – and what more does anyone expect me to do? Some are even going so far as to compare CBS’s Twitter coverage of my trip to Dairy Godmother with the Twitter coverage by besieged [...]

    A Page from Barack Obama’s Diary – Can I Just Eat My Ice Cream? « Northern Virginia, Richmond, VA and DC Metro Chapter (b093c9)

  251. [...] Patterico’s Pontifications » Contrast: Iranian Protestors Shot As Obama Goes for Ice Cream — 2:41am via [...]

    Daily Digest for June 23rd | Snow Fox Creations : The Blog (0e595b)

  252. It’s good to know that Obama taking half an hour to get his kids some ice cream during the protests in Iran is exactly the same as Bush spending months on vacation during a war that he personally declared.

    If only because of how it reminds us of how some on the Right don’t let anything get in the way of drawing false equivalencies.

    Prodigal (fc13ea)

  253. [...] press fawns over everything from the president’s dessert stops to his skill as a fly [...]

    Ed Driscoll » Lemmiwink’s Quest (a3d746)

  254. [...] press fawns over everything from the president’s dessert stops to his skill as a fly [...]

    American Journalists: ‘Gerbilists’ In The National Press Corps « Romanticpoet’s Weblog (725c82)

  255. [...] a contar a través de Twitter que el Presidente y sus hijas han salido a comprarse un helado. Patterico en su blog contrasta el relato de esta noticia con el relato simultáneo de un iraní sobre los [...]

    Crisis en Irán. Obama se toma un helado (y Palin también opina) (II) « Sarah Palin en Español (9d6513)

  256. [...] twitting about how the President and his daughters have gone out to get some  ice cream. Patterico at his blog posts this “news” with the simultaneous narrative of an Iranian twitting on the street clashes. [...]

    Crisis in Iran. Obama enjoys an ice cream (and Palin tweets) (II) « Rillot in English (26ab4b)

  257. [...] other news, taking your daughters for ice cream in the midst of a foreign policy crisis is not a sign of weakness. Then again, neither is playing [...]

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