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3/4/2008

BREAKING: Fox Calls Texas for Clinton

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:47 pm



She wins Ohio and Texas.

Happy days are here again.

UPDATE: CNN’s main page is also declaring Hillary the winner of the Texas primaries.

18 Responses to “BREAKING: Fox Calls Texas for Clinton”

  1. Oh man….. If Hillo wins the Democratic nomination that is going to make this a very difficult election for me. It would have been easy w. Obama coz despite all the things he lacks (like experience etc.) He also lacks an R beside his name. The Republicans have run the entire govt. for far too long. Time for them to sit out for awhile and make(more)money on book contracts and speaking engagements. They’ll be back in the WH in 4 more years. The other thing that Obama lacked was the word Bush or Clinton in ANY part of his name. At this juncture in history that is a strong qualifier for office for me.

    Now, if the Clinton wins, I gotta choose between a Republican who has been going around saying he won’t do anything different than Bush did (apparently to get Republicans to quit calling him a ‘liberal” and to vote for him) which pretty much disqualifies him in my books if he sticks with that line of crap, and a president who has a SERIOUS impediment in that she would be married to a former president. They had their turn, thank you. It’s gonna be hard choosing between same old “conservative” crap and same old “liberal” crap. The only advantage I can see for voting for McCain is that we won’t have to listen to 4 years of right wing talk show people hysterically shrieking “we told you so” every time Hillary says or does….well…. anything. Well…. Go President McCain….!!!

    EdWood (d19234) — 3/4/2008 @ 10:29 pm

  2. Whew! And I thought the democrat circus was going to pack it in.

    Just think. 7 more weeks of carping, sniping, hating, picking and slamming before Pennsylvania, and I have a buck that says it doesn’t end there.

    No. This is going to go all the long, bitter way to the convention. There we will see a reenactment of Pearl Harbor, the Alamo, and Custer’s Last Stand performed simultaneously.

    It should be grand spectacle!

    Whomever wins is going to be so exhausted, broken and bloody, with bitter and divided party remnants, burned out and equally exhausted, the notion of ‘whipping them into shape’ for the general election is going to fail wholesale.

    This is going to be a great year for Republicans, if not Conservatives.

    Anon 1:50 (0a5538) — 3/5/2008 @ 1:55 am

  3. This primary season just gets better and better.

    This NYT piece quotes Obama’s chief strategist as saying that “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”**

    Sounds like the claws are coming out, folks.
    Here’s to another seven weeks.

    **Doesn’t that sound sexist? You know, the way everything Clinton’s campaign says about Obama is racist? : “This is just how women fight (dirty) while men take the high road. No more! Now she’s in for a taste of her own medicine.”

    Joe M. (5d215f) — 3/5/2008 @ 4:10 am

  4. Amendment:
    That last bit should read:

    “You know, the way everything Clinton’s campaign says, implies, reputedly says, may have one time long ago said, doesn’t say but is said to have said, subliminally messages, may have subliminally messaged, intimated, is believed to be mean enough to have said …”

    I feel sorry for the folks over in Pennsylvania.

    Joe M. (5d215f) — 3/5/2008 @ 4:16 am

  5. No. This is going to go all the long, bitter way to the convention. There we will see a reenactment of Pearl Harbor, the Alamo, and Custer’s Last Stand performed simultaneously.

    Yes, a Perfect Storm is brewing.

    Pablo (99243e) — 3/5/2008 @ 5:02 am

  6. I’m not sure that R’s should be so delighted that the Dem’s are having it play out like this. Yes, it cost big bucks that might have been spent in the general election, but the continuing spotlight keeps the Dem base energized. They’ll have no trouble raising money later.

    Furthermore, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida (if they re-vote at the latter) would all seem to be potential key swing states in the general election. The resources and time the Dems spend in those states in the primary elections may help the eventual Dem candidate in the general. Additionally, the voters of the last few states that finally settle the candidate may end up feeling an ownership in that candidate and show up in great numbers at the polls in the general election. R’s might have preferred the last states that decide the Dem candidate to be ones Dem’s will take in the general no matter who the candidate is like, say, California and Massachusetts.

    Still, if the supporters of the Dem loser feel that the winner behaved badly in securing the victory, McCain may look centrist enough for them to stay away from the polls, even if they do not vote for him.

    jim2 (6482d8) — 3/5/2008 @ 5:10 am

  7. James Bond defeated Dr No and Auric Goldfinger and Ernst Stavro Blofeld because they decided to toy around with him rather than just shoot him in the head when they had the chance. Well, there are reports that a lot of Republicans — maybe approaching 10% — went to vote for Senatrix Clinton yesterday, to “game” the system; that’s what Rush Limbaugh encouraged.

    If Republicans really did hand Mrs Clinton a win in Texas, I’d say that the old saw, “Be careful for what you wish; you just might get it,” applies.

    Dana (3e4784) — 3/5/2008 @ 5:12 am

  8. Still, if the supporters of the Dem loser feel that the winner behaved badly in securing the victory, McCain may look centrist enough for them to stay away from the polls, even if they do not vote for him.

    And there you have it, except that some will vote McCain.

    Pablo (99243e) — 3/5/2008 @ 5:42 am

  9. The next 7 weeks leading up to Hillary’s win in PA are going to be an absolute joy. When she wins there, and has more real momentum, it will then go all the way to the convention. I will be unable to wipe the smile off of my face, and their internicine war will offset my having to vote for someone I do not like.

    JD (75f5c3) — 3/5/2008 @ 5:56 am

  10. Loved Matt Drudge’s tag line for one of the stories he’s posted on this:

    SHE’S ALIVE!

    Bride of Frankenstein, of course. Too perfect.

    JayHub (fad106) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:00 am

  11. Interesting comments from AP reporter:

    “On Tuesday, the former first lady won Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, losing only Vermont. Enough to stay in the race, she said, and go ‘all the way.’

    That’s not what many party leaders wanted to hear.

    ‘Despite Obama’s impressive victories in February, Clinton’s comeback is based on sowing political seeds of doubt,’ said Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist and one of nearly 800 party leaders known as superdelegates for their ability to determine the nomination. ‘In order to clinch the nomination, he must anticipate the worst attacks ever.’

    Consider that a shot across the bow to the Clinton campaign because Brazile — like many other superdelegates — worries that Clinton’s only hope for victory is tearing down Obama and dividing the party. Party chairman Howard Dean recently told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that he was concerned about the possible impact of a nominating campaign that stretched through the end of the primaries in early June.

    Some superdelegates are bracing themselves to intervene on Obama’s behalf if necessary.

    ‘If these attacks are contrasts based on policy differences, there is no need to stop the race or halt the debate,’ Brazile said. ‘But, if this is more division, more diversion from the issues and more of the same politics of personal destruction, chairman Dean and other should be on standby.’

    A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Obama’s team will respond to Tuesday’s results by going negative on Clinton — raising questions about her tax records and the source of donations to the Clinton presidential library, among skeletons in the Clintons’ past.

    The winner of that fight would be John McCain, who sealed the GOP nomination Tuesday night and would love nothing more than fratricide among the Democrats. He could use the time to raise money, energize conservative voters and sharpen his general election message.” Full AP story

    Yup, the Clintons have one or two skeletons in the closet for Obama to go after, but you gotta love those Clintons. They never miss a chance to engage in the politics of “personal destruction.” McCain can just cruise, with Hillary doing all the work of tearing down Obama for him for the next few months.

    JayHub (fad106) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:17 am

  12. Clinton seems to have netted only 2 (+/-1) delegates for the night. Sure she should keep campaigning, but like Ted Kennedy vs Carter, it looks like she just won’t find the votes.

    Andrew J. Lazarus (790ad2) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:35 am

  13. She’s still behind in delegates by CNN’s count.

    SPQR (26be8b) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:36 am

  14. So basically the Hillary saw her shadow and we’ll get six more weeks of vicious campaigning.

    Get me more popcorn.

    SPQR (26be8b) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:38 am

  15. AJL, SPQR

    It’s been clear for some time that she couldn’t catch up in the delegate count because of the proportional system the Democrats use. This is why her recent strategy has been to tear down Obama and “position” herself as the most “electable” candidate – the one who should be chosen as the nominee by the Democratic superdelegates.

    JayHub (fad106) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:43 am

  16. It’s been clear for some time that she couldn’t catch up in the delegate count because of the proportional system the Democrats use.

    But the situation with the Florida and Michigan delegates makes one thing perfectly clear: Unless they have a complete do-over in both states, someone’s getting disenfranchised by the Democratic nomination process. Hillary actually has a good point regarding Florida in that the Dems voters are being punished for the actions of their R governor and legislature. Heh.

    Pablo (99243e) — 3/5/2008 @ 6:56 am

  17. Pablo,

    Yes, but I saw on Glenn Beck last night dueling comments from Hillary (the one you mention) and a seemingly opposite story from Bill who said the Republicans had nothing to do with the primary in Florida, that the Democrats were OK with the dates and came out to vote in record numbers, so Hillary should win. I guess they’re covering both angles at the same time. Either it’s the Republicans fault and Hillary should win or it wasn’t the Republicans fault and Hillary should win. Go figure.

    As to what will happen with MI and FL, I think they’ll get seated and allowed to vote somehow, but I think that will be after the superdelegates have decided the process.

    Agreed, the Democratic selection process is a Dog’s Breakfast, but fun to watch.

    JayHub (fad106) — 3/5/2008 @ 7:03 am

  18. Pablo: Hillary has a point about Florida, but so does Obama — he didn’t campaign in the state, in compliance with party rules, specifically because he believed the party rules regarding seating of the delegates would be adhered to.

    Clinton *did* campaign in the state, in violation of the party rules.

    The party should not reward that.

    If enfranchising the Florida voters is important, they should hold another primary/caucus.

    aphrael (ab1d82) — 3/5/2008 @ 9:40 am


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