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10/21/2007

Sunday Night GOP Debate

Filed under: 2008 Election — DRJ @ 7:51 pm



[Guest post by DRJ]

Instapundit provides a good roundup of bloggers who watched the GOP debate. I didn’t even remember there was a debate tonight. I must not be ready for presidential politics.

I guess that makes me an average voter.

— DRJ

11 Responses to “Sunday Night GOP Debate”

  1. I didn’t see it, but read about it.

    If what I read was accurate, it’s nice to see that someone (Thompson) pointed out that Giuliani favors public funding of abortion. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303827,00.html I know we all know this, but the candidates haven’t been harping on it in the debates, as they should be.

    Now if only we can get someone to muster the courage to remind us on national television that Giuliani, who says he “hates” abortion and says he’d counsel anyone against it, previously said, “I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views…I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman — my daughter or any other woman — would be that in this particular circumstance, to have an abortion, I’d support that. I’d give my daughter the money for it.” http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODY5NzBmZTYzZjA5ZThhMjc3MjdjZTY2MTJjOTg2YTY=

    I’m also glad (again, assuming this is accurate) that someone finally reminded us that John McCain flip-flopped on Roe v. Wade. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/21/gop_candidates_debate_whos_a_true_conservative/ Too bad the reminder had to come from Romney. If Tancredo or Hunter had made the point, McCain wouldn’t have had a response.

    I really can’t stand how sanctimonious McCain is. He keeps acting so holier-than-thou because (he says) he’s been consistent, and he hasn’t been consistent. In August of 1999, when McCain was last running for president, he told the San Francisco Chronicle that abortion is “necessary” and that Roe shouldn’t be overturned, now or ever.

    Now when is someone going to say, at the debates, “Isn’t it funny that after five months of debates, only one of us has never said that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided? And isn’t it funny that only one of us has explicitly refused to say whether Roe should be overturned?”

    Alan (f1706f)

  2. I’m just gonna wait for the news to tell me who did the best, and back them until the next debate, and someone else does better…

    :)

    Scott Jacobs (a1de9d)

  3. Alan, how do you feel about Fred having done some lobbying work — however you want to define it — for Planned Parenthood?

    wls (fb8809)

  4. I don’t feel good about that.

    Of course, I notice that Fred didn’t donate money to Planned Parenthood, as Giuliani repeatedly did, or say that Roe v. Wade was good constitutional law, as Giuliani did, or say that he favors federal funding of abortion, as Giuliani repeatedly did, or say that he’d pay to help his daughter exterminate his own grandchild, as Giuliani did, or say that he’d support his daughter’s decision to exterminate his own grandchild, as Giuliani did.

    Hmm… Decisions, decisions. Darn, this is going to be a tough one.

    All the GOP candidates (save the unelectable ones) are bad on abortion. Giuliani, however, is by far the worst.

    Alan (f1706f)

  5. I just look at Thompson’s work for Planned parenthood as just part of his job at the time. The people he worked for took the job, not Fred.

    Scott Jacobs (a1de9d)

  6. I thought tht Fox network won the debate setting the bar for adult, probing and intelligent questions to the candidates. My one fault lies in the amount of attention paid to Rudy rather than some of the other candidates. All looked good, some looked very good but Ron Paul stood out as candidate most likely to take over from Sen. Byrd.

    McCain stands by his record; Rudy denies it; and Rommney hides from his. Thompson confronted Rudy’s record and tore him a new one.

    It was the best debate I’ve seen but hope Huckabee and Ron Paul are removed.

    Thomas Jackson (bf83e0)

  7. McCain isn’t standing by his record, at least not if his record includes what he said the last time he ran for president.

    Alan (f1706f)

  8. That was a great debate. Mike Huckabee was excellent and stood out for both the quality of his ideas and ability to deliver them. Fred Thompson’s ideas were good, but his performance is hurting him. Too old… can’t help but clear his throat constantly and makes a lot of jerky movements, plus “Ummmm” (give me time to think, I’m an old man) is his favorite word. Romney was wooden, which is an improvement from his usual plastic. Guiliani and McCain were both in fine form, especially McCain.

    Christoph (92b8f7)

  9. That was a very descriptive comment, Christoph. You even made me wish I’d seen the debate.

    DRJ (35ac59)

  10. The only thing that could get me to watch/listen to the debates is if there was a “truth/lie” detector on my TV set. What’s the sense of listening to guys who will lie in order to get elected? What we need is the death penalty applied to political liars.

    Howard Veit (4ba8d4)

  11. Howard, then there’d be no candidates from the Democrat side or moderators, either.

    PCD (b47ba5)


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