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8/9/2019

Joe Biden: Self-Proclaimed Gaffe Machine Steps In It Again

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:09 am



[gust post by Dana]

Still maintaining his lead in the race for 2020, Joe Biden misspoke yesterday during a speech about leveling the playing field for low-income children. And it was a doozy:

“We have this notion that somehow if you’re poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” said Biden, who is running for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, during a town hall in Des Moines.

He paused, then quickly clarified, “wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids.”

“No, I really mean it, but think how we think about it,” he said.

While this is nothing new for the self-proclaimed “gaffe machine,” it provided the Trump campaign with an opening, and they took it. Or, as NBC News put it, they pounced:

Note: “Biden’s awkward course-correction came just days after Biden excoriated Trump for having a “toxic tongue” that he said has inflamed the nation’s divisions, saying that he lacked the moral authority to lead America.”

When comparing this to smelling women’s hair and getting handsy, being a gaffe-machine doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

41 Responses to “Joe Biden: Self-Proclaimed Gaffe Machine Steps In It Again”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (fdf131)

  2. After the volumes of lies, misspeaks, coarse conduct, and typo tweets from Trump — I really do not care about the occasional Biden misspeak. We’ve lowered our standards, probably permanently. So let’s worry about something else. (Maybe Biden’s constant laying of hands.)

    Appalled (c9622b)

  3. Heh:

    @realDonaldTrump says @JoeBiden is “not playing with a full deck.”

    But a #Biden campaign aide tells me: “Donald Trump’s deck is all jokers”

    Dana (fdf131)

  4. Aw lawd. Come on Dems get your flipping shiznit together.

    JRH (52aed3)

  5. Biden clearly associated poverty with being back. That’s a racist stereotype. He should try to be better. I suspect he will.

    Time123 (43acd5)

  6. “But what about your gaffes?”

    Ingot9455 (d9d16a)

  7. God love ya, Joe!

    B.A. DuBois (bb5df0)

  8. Saying “poor” while meaning “African-American” is a dog-whistle to the radical far-left extreme wing of the Democrat party.

    Or it would be if the media ever reported at all on the Democrat party even having a far-left, or an extreme, or a radical, or a hidden dog-whistle encrypted jargon-using, faction.

    But since not, I guess not.

    Pouncer (df6448)

  9. I’m sorry, there is so much JUNK in the media stream I’ve missed it.

    Which Democrat candidate was asked, and answered, about having the federal executive branch order FBI, DoJ, etc investigators to videotape interviews (instead of relying on after-the-fact handwritten notes from memory)?

    As I recall, cam-cording law enforcement was a big deal to “Black Lives Matter”. So I’m confident the issue came up among the primary candidates. But I can’t find it. Help?

    Pouncer (df6448)

  10. When people get that old, they should not be allowed to vote let alone run for public office.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. Even without the gaffe, his statement is puerile. Rich kids don’t have to run the course, they’re born at the finish line. For a poor kid to make it, it is an exceptional thing. For him personally, and for the society that gave him the opportunity.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. #2 After the volumes of lies, misspeaks, coarse conduct, and typo tweets from Trump — I really do not care about the occasional Biden misspeak. We’ve lowered our standards, probably permanently. So let’s worry about something else. (Maybe Biden’s constant laying of hands.)

    Appalled (c9622b) — 8/9/2019 @ 8:17 am

    Occasional Biden misspeak?

    He’s literally a walking gaffe machine.

    But, that’s not really the issue. The issue is that the media/Democrats hand waves Biden’s wandering mouth as “that’s just Uncle Joe there”… but, Trump (or any Republican for that matter) don’t get that same treatment.

    Dana is simply pointing out the hypocrisy there.

    whembly (4605df)

  13. That kind of talk leads to mass shootings like the ones we just had in Houston and Michigan.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  14. The smart thing for Biden to do right now is to own it, and start making self-deprecating jokes about his penchant for gaffes, in the same way that JFK used to joke about being born rich, Reagan joked about being lazy and detached, and GW Bush joked about his malpropisms. Until Dana’s post, I had no idea that Biden had acknowledged his own obvious weakness. If I were one of his speechwriters, I would be inserting a clever joke about it into every single campaign speech, and I would give Biden a couple of quips that he can rehearse and use when needed. But I wonder if Biden’s colossal ego and strange need to have people believe that he is a deep thinker will make him shy away from this sort of advice.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  15. Biden 2020: “I am the more palatable brain-dead delusional narcissist.”

    JVW (54fd0b)

  16. #12 (whembly)

    There is a real question of degree between Biden and Trump. Biden occasionally lets lose with a stupid misspeak. And it is clear he misspoke, and tried to correct himself immediately.

    With Trump, you often can’t tell what he said, what he meant to say, and whether its actually true. If Trump had said what Biden had said, there would be a tweet or two from the people paid to tally up Trump’s verbal crimes, but it would get lost in the sheer mass of offensive and inaccurate stuff that Trump spews.

    Is the media biased? Yes. But on the issue of gaffes, Biden is getting flack for something Trump does almost every time he speaks. And, in ths isolated case, it is Trump who is getting the benefit.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  17. You know, JVW, aside from Biden’s gaffes and wandering hands and nose, I’ve always considered him to rather shallow and very much not a deep thinker. A regurgitator, at best.

    Dana (fdf131)

  18. I remember his advice during the avian flu outbreak

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/09/biden-china-trump/

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Biden is getting flack for something Trump does almost every time he speaks.

    No doubt some of that flack is coming from the same people who say “Who cares what Trump says? It’s actions that count!!”

    Radegunda (be5f68)

  20. I just want to see the two old roosters strut around on the debate stage and go after each other Nobody in America will know what the hell they’re talking about.

    Dana (fdf131)

  21. So in 2016, it was Hillary or Trump. In 2020 looks like it’s going to be Biden or Trump. SMDH

    Gryph (08c844)

  22. https://pjmedia.com/trending/joe-biden-we-choose-truth-over-facts/

    …”we choose truth over facts,” in reference to the Democratic Party.

    Uh… is that really a gaffe? Seems like it’s a variation of the Democrat’s your truths.

    whembly (4605df)

  23. Oops:

    A girl just had the following interaction with Joe Biden:

    Girl: “How many genders are there?”

    Biden “There are at least 3”

    Girl: “What are they?”

    Biden: “Don’t play games with me kid”

    She says that as she was leaving that Biden forcefully grabbed her

    Dumb gotcha question, but keep your hands to yourself, Joe.

    Dana (fdf131)

  24. 17. Dana (fdf131) — 8/9/2019 @ 11:01 am

    .You know, JVW, aside from Biden’s gaffes and wandering hands and nose, I’ve always considered him to rather shallow and very much not a deep thinker.

    A lot of this looks like, it’s not memory problems, or slips, although some is, like calling Theresa May, Margaret Thatcher, but he’s not interested in evaluating the substance of what he says

    How else could he get he say “Go to JOE30303” instead of “text JOIN to 30330.” You have to totally not understand what you are being told to say to get that wrong. Or that much wrong. You’d think apwerson woudl want to udnerstand what he is saying.

    Ad hwo much can you care about getting things right if you express sorrow at the “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before”

    How many ways can you get things wrong in asingle senten

    He’s what they call “phoning it in”

    I too at first thought Dayton was first because I first heard of it on the radio Sunday morning, (after somebody mentoned two shootings to me, and asked a question) but you wouldn’t expect a presidential candidate to be so completely out of touch for close to 24 hours. If he wasn’t out of touch he couldn’t get things so wrong because he would have known about one before the other. And also that tells you something, because he has no reason to be out of touch. he is nto Sabbath observer. He wasn’t out camping in the mountains.

    I know he thinks Michigan is a more crucial state than Ohio, and Houston is the most important city in Texas, and that can account for it but only of you are not paying serious attention. If he forgot where, you’d think he would ask someone rather than just ad lib. You’d think if someone is giving a speech, he’d want to make sure of details like that. You’d think somebody would know he doesn’t remember. You’d think if he couldn’t remember and didn’t have time to ask someone, he’d use some vaguer words. It really does seem that Joe Biden is used t repeating things that tehr people say – and because it doesn’t mean anything to him, he doesn’t get it right.

    And about Charlottsville – here it is imperfect memory plus not checking it out – not only is it false (perhaps on purpose) to describe what Trump said as meaning that some neo-Nazis were “good people” but he has the neo Nazis saying “Jews will replace us” when they were chanting “Jews will not replace us.”

    Even the next day when he mentioend the gaffe “Go to JOE30303” he didn’t get right what it was supposed to be. It was suppposed to be “text JOIN to 30330” and he said “instead of saying ‘Joe’ I would have said ‘text.’ He still didn’t understand what it was supposed to be.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  25. …”we choose truth over facts,”

    This is just a slip.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  26. Biden is more familiar with the web sites than texting, bit apparently he, or hsi researchers, got got something wrong there:

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/aug/02/joe-biden/debate-biden-said-google-1000-prisoners-freed-kama

    At debate, Joe Biden said to Google ‘1,000 prisoners freed Kamala Harris.’ Time for a fact-check

    …Biden’s account was largely in line with what’s been reported, but he botched a few key details that are worth setting straight.

    For starters, the scandal resulted in the district attorney’s office dismissing or dropping about 1,000 cases, not “1,000 prisoners freed,” as Biden said.

    Second, Harris eventually implemented a policy mandating the handover of exculpatory evidence, meaning Biden’s claim that “she never did it” was not right.

    Biden also mistook the gender and title of the judge who stepped in to reprimand Harris…

    The only big one is getting the gender of the judge wrong.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  27. …”we choose truth over facts,”

    This is just a slip.

    How many “slips” make for a real problem?

    Dana (fdf131)

  28. Some people go through life using the wrong words.

    Sammy Finkelman (d542b2)

  29. Biden doesn’t have anyone to lose to. (I’m thinking some of this is just taking things that oher people say ad repeating them. But that’s one thing that makes him a moderate.

    There’s been one commentator who said that if Bernie Sanders said things like this, they;d be saying he should get out of the race.

    Sammy Finkelman (d542b2)

  30. I just want to see the two old roosters strut around on the debate stage and go after each other Nobody in America will know what the hell they’re talking about.

    Trump saying that the Continental Army seized airports during the Revolutionary War and Biden chiming in that the poor soldiers fought just as well as the white soldiers?

    nk (dbc370)

  31. Heh. Something like that. Can you imagine two hours of it!

    Dana (fdf131)

  32. =ring-ring= Hello, Joey-Bee?

    This is April, 2020 calling.

    Just a reminder to let you know you will drop out in March.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  33. A Joey-Bee reminder:

    When Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., was sworn into the United States Senate in January, 1973, the Pet Rock and the Sony Betamax were still more than two years in the future.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. This will be Biden’s third race for the Democratic nomination. In the previous two, he didn’t win a single primary. Yeah, he did serve as vice-president, but he never would have been elected with a president other than Obama. And had the Republicans ran a credible nominee in either election, he wouldn’t have been elected.

    Gaffe-prone, nosy, handsy Biden just doesn’t have what it takes to win. But then they said the same about gaffe-prone, feely, fraudulent Trump.

    A presidential debate between these two would be a nightmare. I’m thinking the Democrats will nominate someone else. A moderate, center-left candidate with some executive experience. I cansee a few candidates on the ticket that fit that bill. Not that I would vote for any of them, but I’m just saying that would be how I would vote if I were a Democrat, which I am not. Nor am I a Republican, not if the GOP is going all in for Trump, excluding other candidates from the primaries.

    I am a libertarian, a classical liberal. I refuse to vote Democrat, except in city and county elections when the only choices are Democrats, but I can no longer vote for a Republican at the federal level. Cruz had my vote, but now he’s lost it. Cornyn never had my vote. Abbot, and the rest, I will vote for, but anybody who supports Trump will not get my vote.

    This is what happens when a party self-destructs. Nominating Trump was the death knell.

    I don’t sit out elections. I always vote, have since 1980. I vote for the candidate that most aligns with my views. Trump is certainly not that candidate. Nor are any of the Democrats. So I am a man without a party. I do not vote Democrat, but I cannot vote Republican. So that leaves the Libertarians. I have not technically joined the party, have never made a contribution toone of its candidates, but I have voted for their candidate as a protest vote. The Democrats disgust me; the Republicans repel me. So I have no choice other than to write myself in.

    You can do that, you know. Just go down to the polling place and ask for a paper ballot. You can write in any candidate you want. Mickey Mouse or whoever. 1992, the Republican and the Democrat and the Libertarian were not worth voting for, so I voted for myself. Hey, I can run for president as much as the next guy. I only got one vote, but that doesn’t matter. It was a protest vote.

    I will continue to vote against the duopoly, or the triopoly. I’ll keep voting for myself.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  35. I don’t see them nominating a hickenlooper, Delaney’s so far down the line, you can’t see the horizon, I’m sure McMullin will be still be available,

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. @ Gawain’s Ghost:

    I’m thinking the Democrats will nominate someone else. A moderate, center-left candidate with some executive experience. I cansee a few candidates on the ticket that fit that bill.

    Okay, you’re gonna have to name names because I see Biden as the most moderate, center-left candidate in the lot, and that’s not saying much. I can’t imagine who you might think fits the bill.

    Dana (fdf131)

  37. Donald J. Trump
    ‏@realDonaldTrump

    Joe Biden just said, “We believe in facts, not truth.” Does anybody really believe he is mentally fit to be president? We are “playing” in a very big and complicated world. Joe doesn’t have a clue!

    What Biden said: “We choose truth over facts.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/truth-over-facts-biden-fumbles-during-iowa-speech

    Does anybody really believe either of these codgers is mentally fit to be President?

    nk (dbc370)

  38. Each of these candidates should be asked how many genders there are and to name them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. In the end, each of us must ask ourselves what the choice is… what the alternatives will be… and I expect a lot of NeverTrumpers will face a choice of having their heads explode or sitting on their thumbs in November 2020.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  40. Each of these candidates should be asked how many genders there are and to name them.

    I can state confidently that English, Greek and German have three, the masculine, the feminine, and the neuter, but Spanish only has two, the masculine and the feminine. I may have read somewhere that Japanese does not have any, but don’t quote me.

    nk (dbc370)

  41. Don’t play games with me, kid!

    nk (dbc370)


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