Can A “Top Cop” Effectively Lead The Country If She Hollers ‘Hate Crime’ Before An Investigation Has Been Completed? (UPDATE ADDED)
[guest post by Dana]
Here we go. I haven’t posted about this subject for obvious reasons. The main one being that the Jussie Smollett case is still being investigated and we don’t know for sure what happened. So while I’ve stayed on the sidelines keeping my mouth shut and not jumping to conclusions, the leading Democratic candidates didn’t realize that they too should show some restraint and patience and wait for an investigation before spouting off. Obviously the reason we wait is because investigations into high-voltage incidents like the alleged Smollett attack can reveal that what the situation appeared to be, was in fact something very different. No caution for this group though. Heck no. They happily jumped into the sordid mess with both feet in an effort to advance themselves like the grifters they are. As they self-righteously beat their chests in angry indignation at the horrible stench of assumed racist hate wafting through the air, they made their assumptions based on seemingly little more than an initial report of the incident. Certainly they reacted before there was even an opportunity for an investigation to take place. (Date of alleged incident: Jan. 29. Date of the three candidates’ tweets: Jan. 29.) But sadly, the assumptions they made were necessary if they were going to out-woke the competition. And yet, while grifters are gonna grift, when a candidate for the highest office in the land, who spent six years as “California’s top cop,” still cannot resist the urge to make hasty, premature accusations about an alleged hate crime, as well as effectively announcing that she *knew* what happened – even before any investigation – then the seriousness of that individual who hopes to become the next Commander in Chief should be in question. I’m looking at you, Kamala Harris. It’s almost as if investigations, facts, and evidence are pesky mundane issues to be swatted away because girl wants to become the president, and pushing one’s cause, no matter how premature or inaccurate, is the path to a needed win. As caution and prudence go out the window, a foolish mentality of “strike while the iron is hot or forever lose that woke opportunity” becomes the guiding light for the self-proclaimed “top cop”. Maybe it’s just me, but shouldn’t we expect more of a presidential candidate who has been a state’s chief law enforcement officer and top lawyer for six years in one of the nation’s most populous states?
Anyway, the police want to interview Smollett again after two brothers who were interviewed by investigators claimed that they were paid [by Smollett] to take part in a staged attack.
P.S. No response from Kamala Harris or Kirsten Gillibrand on the changing tide of the story. Cory Booker, while not acknowledging his earlier rush to judgment, said today that he is now going to withhold from commenting further “until all the information actually comes out from on the record sources.”
Gosh, what a novel idea.
UPDATE: This is Kamala Harris responding to a reporter’s inquiry today about whether she had been too quick to condemn the “attack” before knowing all the facts:
Kamala Harris looks deeply uncomfortable and/or deeply confused about having to explain her Jussie Smollett “modern-day lynching” tweet. pic.twitter.com/Z2EMvm2HZB
— Vince Coglianese (@TheDCVince) February 18, 2019
“I think that once the investigation is concluded, then we should all comment, but I’m not going to comment until I know the outcome of that investigation.”
Uh, too late. You already did. Remember??? Unfortunately, the reporter did not hold her feet to the fire and point out that, of all people, the former San Francisco District Attorney and Attorney General should have known to use a prudent restraint before claiming that a “modern day lynching” had taken place prior to any investigation having been completed.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (023079) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:35 pmI just posted about an 11 year old boy arrested in lakeland florida for not standing up for the pledge of allegiance because trump is president. I just found out the sub. teacher is a cuban trump supporter who told the black boy to move back to africa if he doesn’t like it here. when the boy answered I was brought here the boy was handcuffed and arrested by the police in front of his classmates and taken to jail.
lany (1b1121) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:40 pmIt’s best to wait at least 48 hours before starting the virtue signaling. You’d think people would understand that by now.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:40 pmThere are indications, that Harris is very biased in favor of smolletts family, which I put at the tale end of the thread.
Narciso (c1e842) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:40 pmWith Ellen’s ratings, she won’t get cancelled but in the end, Spartacus was a loser who got crucified.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:45 pmYes someone with the mind set of Bobby seale in high office, what could go wrong (there was a female panther, but the name escapes me now)
Narciso (c1e842) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:49 pmWell, I wasn’t going to vote for any Democrat in 2020. But at this rate, a vote for Trump will be a vote for the more intelligent, more rational candidate…
Kishnevi (86d06e) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:49 pmSorry ot was erica Huggins, although I guess Angela Davis would first as well.
Narciso (c1e842) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:54 pmPersonally, I was crushed by the Chicago detectives’ findings. Chicago is not “MAGA country” after all?
nk (dbc370) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:55 pmYou know the Easter bunny isnt real, so the other 700 murders get what kind of attention.
Narciso (c1e842) — 2/17/2019 @ 7:57 pmI think Jussie will hightail it to a rehab center by tomorrow morning and will be incommunicado for weeks.
Patricia (3363ec) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:26 pmThe case is going to a grand jury.
nk (dbc370) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:30 pmAnd one hopes (if the hoax charge holds up) incommunicado for a couple of years courtesy of the Illinois Dept of Corrections.
Kishnevi (86d06e) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:31 pmThe Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Opinion: I doubted Jussie Smollett. It breaks my heart that I might be right.
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Lori
@N0N0N0N0N000
It breaks your heart that there was no hate crime here? Weird
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@PresidentShemp
@presidentshemp
So his lie is *more* painful than an actual, brutal bias attack?! That cannot possibly be.
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Bridget Phetasy
@BridgetPhetasy
What the eff WaPo do you even realize what this headline *isn’t* saying?
“It breaks my heart Trump supporters aren’t roaming the streets of Chicago lynching people because I’d rather be proven right than have to confront my glaring psychological blindspots.”
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Jim Kastel
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:47 pm@Jimmy_K45
Replying to
@washingtonpost
This is why you have to advertise during the Super Bowl.
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the lieutenant governor of virginia’s a rapist and the governor of virginia goes by the nickname of coonman
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:52 pmRyan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
Andrew McCabe: “The Deputy Attorney General offered to wear a wire into the White House. He said, ‘I never get searched when I go into the White House, I could easily wear a recording device, they wouldn’t know it was there.’”
“He was not joking. He was absolutely serious.
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:54 pmAnd don Cheadle wants Rhodey to stay dead, because hes dead to me,
Narciso (c1e842) — 2/17/2019 @ 8:59 pmI think Jussie will hightail it to a rehab center by tomorrow morning and will be incommunicado for weeks.
i think he has to work
not sure but i think they have to wrap up the season still
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:07 pmThere’s a commander-in-chief who hollers about all kinds of half-baked things before an investigation has been completed, and a constitutional majority already decided that they were okay with a person who does that kind of thing (remember when he said the election was rigged based on zero evidence?). Therefore, it does not disqualify Democrat candidates from doing the same. Just trying to apply a single standard here.
Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:28 pmFrom the link Dana provided with regards to Cory Booker:
I’m too lazy to look it up right now, but I don’t think Booker is anywhere near correct with respect to the idea that the “majority” of “terrorist” attacks are by white supremacists. For one thing, who is he counting as a white supremacist? Jared Loughner (Tucson shooter of Gabby Giffords) who was just a garden-variety nutcase? Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome, OCD, and depression? Nikolas Cruz (Stoneman Douglas High) who spent years under psychiatric observation and has a rather unlikely white supremacist name, even if he did apparently hate blacks, Jews, and Mexicans? I think like so much dealing with Cory Booker, he’s just making stuff up as he goes.
And even if Booker didn’t mean to refer mass killings (though what else could he mean by “terrorists attacks”?), I think the statistics from a few years ago are still valid which indicate that black-on-white violence is, proportionate to the respective populations, eight times more prevalent than white-on-black violence. Is this the kind of bullstuff that Booker is going to be bringing for the next 15 months as he makes his Presidential run? What a tool.
JVW (54fd0b) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:31 pmNo it’s just more dreck fron splc and cair and all those other outfits who are tax exempt, the new American foundation is particularly egregious newcomers in this.
Narciso (00a309) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:48 pmBooker has been fact-checked and his comments are half-true. In terms of lethality, more have been murdered on US soil since 9/11 at the hands of militant Islamists than right-wing extremists.
Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:53 pmRod Dreher
@roddreher
You are not allowed to say on Facebook that Jussie Smollett carried out a hate hoax.
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Someone posted a link to a story referencing CNN saying Smollett had made up the hate incident and Twitter blocked it as not conforming to community standards.
https://mobile.twitter.com/roddreher/status/1097172300477140992
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:03 pmDeport them all.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:09 pm“There’s a commander-in-chief who hollers about all kinds of half-baked things before an investigation has been completed,”
Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 9:28 pm
So glad we set a better example, unlike those here who condemned Nicholas Sandmann a “racist” before the facts were in.
Munroe (e0f980) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:18 pmThanks Paul Montagu. I checked the GAO report linked in the Fact Check, and as typical with government work it is largely skewed to obtain the desired political conclusion. For instance, they characterize the guy who shot to death six people at the Lockheed Martin plant in Mississippi in 2003 as a white supremacist, though authorities have disputed that race was a driving factor. I’m guessing that there are a whole bunch of other questionable conclusions that the GAO people have drawn in order to push the narrative that white supremacists are out there gunning everyone down.
And they seem to take every peckerwood loser who kills someone (many times a sex offender) and label him a white supremacist, but they don’t pay any attention to minority gangs and the number of killings for which they are responsible. Many of the non-white gangs are supremacists gang too, whether it’s the Latin Kings, the Crips, the Mexican Mafia, etc, and their victims are quite often people outside their own race.
So we’re back to where we started: Booker is a horse’s ass.
JVW (54fd0b) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:22 pmSomeone posted a link to a story referencing CNN saying Smollett had made up the hate incident and Twitter blocked it as not conforming to community standards.
Slight correction, harkin: It appears that it’s Facebook (not Twitter) that censored the Smollett hate crimes story. I know, I know: six of one, half a dozen of the other.
JVW (54fd0b) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:24 pmI see links related to that, maybe it’s a shadow ban.
Narciso (00a309) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:27 pm“Many of the non-white gangs are supremacists gang too, whether it’s the Latin Kings, the Crips, the Mexican Mafia, etc, and their victims are quite often people outside their own race.”
JVW (54fd0b) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:22 pm
Except that the Latin Kings and Mexican Mafia were not considered non-white according to the DOJ under Obama, when compiling crime statistics. Hispanics were conveniently lumped in with whites.
Munroe (b11042) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:31 pmThat’s true, but murders emanating from gang activity aren’t considered terrorism under the US Code. The fact that a majority of murders by terrorist attacks come from militant Islamists–even though less than a quarter of terrorist attacks have been executed by militant Islamists–is all the more reason DHS should focus more of their resources on jihadists instead of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, which really just further affirms that Booker is indeed a horse’s ass.
Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:39 pmNo because that appendage has a purpose. Considering tbone is too ask Edwin starrs question.
Narciso (00a309) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:46 pmI have a nearly perfect record on these. Remember the McCain worker who claimed a black Obama supporter attacked her? I called that on day one – 90% chance it was faked, I said. The anthrax guy was real, I said. So I’m right a lot – and not because I’m a genius, I just don’t let the politics get in the way. Most people can pattern-recognize.
There’s no excuse for an experienced law enforcement to support such nonsense unless they are bad at evaluating evidence or don’t care. I’ve seen this on every level, including locally.
Everything is probabilistic – Jussie Smollett could still end up innocent of everything and have been telling the truth. But that was unlikely at the start and vanishingly unlikely now. There are certain obvious tells in these situations. Someone should make a list…
JRM (c80289) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:47 pm27 – Facebook, not Twitter.
You are correct. They both do it so often it’s hard to keep track of who’s pushing the lefty meme.
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:50 pmWhich anthrax guy the one in Texas,
Narciso (00a309) — 2/17/2019 @ 10:52 pmThe lefty media types are quickly pivoting from the ‘this attack is a reflection of Trump’s America’ approach to one of: ‘Hey, don’t blame us, it was celebrities and entertainment reporters who got it wrong’.
Mediate has countered with a nice collection of actual news reporters from most of the major sources jumping on the blame Trump/conservatives/white people smear wagon.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/did-the-media-jump-the-gun-on-the-jussie-smollett-story/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/17/2019 @ 11:01 pm@15. And Bullwinkle was a chocolate mousse, Mr. Feet.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/17/2019 @ 11:58 pmhttps://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/17396-u-s-government-and-top-mexican-drug-cartel-exposed-as-partners?fbclid=IwAR2qCiUx69_MZbC8FTCzsjI6ykUdMr7lAko1afDzV1-uBumQoPbUN668Lok#
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 2:17 amSo disgusting.
Trump is an idiot for hiring Barr. That traitor on 60 minutes should have been arrested immediately. Barr is as deep state as you can get. I wish Americans had the balls we did during the revolutionary war.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:02 amhttps://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/17396-u-s-government-and-top-mexican-drug-cartel-exposed-as-partners?fbclid=IwAR2qCiUx69_MZbC8FTCzsjI6ykUdMr7lAko1afDzV1-uBumQoPbUN668Lok#
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:54 amoops!!
Free will is a single standard, Paul. Once you understand that, everything falls into place.
felipe (023cc9) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:46 amyes yes barr’s deep-state swamp-sucking bushfilth for sure
but they don’t let you lead the gangsta-thug DOJ if you have integrity anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:56 ami never really had much of a relationship with bullwinkle or the squirrel
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:57 amNatasha?
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:01 amHot take off the griddle:
Narciso (a4c9e9) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:21 amhttps://mobile.twitter.com/JacksonDiehl/status/1097317172634886145?fbclid=IwAR2RKfLv7tQFpolKoBlNmeyeH_XnYEOKZO0Yp1-dgh6ugMqgybL0bpf3xCA
daddy dick-pic’s washington post likes to swirl the anti-semitism around on the tongue
savoring the nuances
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:28 amhttps://amgreatness.com/2019/02/17/autopsy-of-a-dead-coup/
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:29 amAs Waller points out, Omar’s family was tied to the deposed warlord said barre who wrecked the country, the father of the technicald
Narciso (a4c9e9) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:54 amThis cant go pearshaped:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/uc-berkeley-prof-compares-white-women-who-support-trump-to-slave-owners/
Narciso (a4c9e9) — 2/18/2019 @ 6:55 amdon’t forget though how Jussie and his hoax enabled closet case cory
fhlake-turd tim scott
and kamala bj harris to pass a bill making lynching a federal hate crime
and it very nearly became law
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:07 amRazor
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:13 am@hale_razor
1) Claim against Trump supporters
2) Media frenzy vs GOP
3) Every GOP must condemn!
4) Punchable face comments
5) Violence against Nazis is OK
6) When will the hate end!!!
7) Fact-gathering
8) Revealed as hoax
9) Forget 1) down memory hole
10) Repeat
Why do you think they’re all so stridently “Believe the victim!!!1!”? Because nine out of ten of these victimization stories are lies. The truth is obvious and easily provable; it’s the lies that need to be beaten into people’s heads.
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:36 amBecause nine out of ten of these victimization stories are lies.
yup they really are
i was clicking on things on the internet and i went to a website called facebook where it turns out jusse had set up a page and guess what i found
CNN Jake Tapper fake news never once reported how Jussie did him a whole docu-show on lynching did they
isn’t that curious
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:52 amIndeed, but that wasn’t the single standard I was talking about.
Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:22 amJulio Rosas
@Julio_Rosas11
@brianstelter
this morning: “There was a rush to judgment, I think it was mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and among Twitter people. I think it was a really careful reporting by news organizations. But it all gets lumped in together at the end of the day…”
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Dave In The Middle
@PragmaticMiddle
Really careful reporting by the media except for the part where there absolutely wasn’t
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Ser Macallan XVIII
@nottaitz
“Twitter people” such as every single Democratic political figure in power? Every presidential candidate? Those “Twitter people”?
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Dan Alden ⭐⭐⭐
@DanAlden73
I guess Robin Roberts and outlets like CNN are not real media outlets in stelters mind. You know I actually agree with that statement
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Enter Sandmann
@LetItBurnUSA
The only news organizations who were careful were the local Chicago press. They’ve done great work investigating this story. The national media was a disgrace as usual.
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D B
@db_psu1014
Careful reporting by news organizations… I just spit out my damn coffee.
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Roc
@AmericanIcon86
Replying to
@brianstelter
This guy has as much credibility as his hair
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harkin (e15868) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:22 amThe only news organizations who were careful were the local Chicago press.
They know their city. They knew how unlikely the story was. Even David Axelrod, Obama’s eminence gris, hardly a Trumper, who deserves the title “veteran newsman”, had this to say:
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:31 amConversation
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:37 amAndy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
Right after Donald Trump’s election, the SPLC really stoked panic. A pro-gay Episcopal church in Indiana was vandalized w/“Heil Trump,” a swastika, & an anti-gay slur. Turns out it was the gay organ player who did it. He was only charged w/a misdemeanor.
56 – nice
Andy Ngo has a great twitter acct logging hate crime hoaxes, I encourage everyone to give it a look.
harkin (e15868) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:43 amGreat commenrmtary at (of all places) The Daily Beast:
“…..The unintended consequence has been to make the media look ridiculous as it keeps rushing to judgement and falling for hoax stories.
If we are to beat back the charges of “fake news” and defend the institution of journalism, we must defend those other old-fashioned ideas and institutions like the presumption of innocence, due process, and, yes, maybe even trying to avoid political bias.
It is telling that today’s highest-profile hoaxes—a measure that, of course, reflects what hoaxes are accepted at first and rewarded with media attention —are about appropriating someone else’s victim status, not stealing their valor. Never mind the glory of heroes, experts, or champions, the desire for sympathy—and the moral authority that comes from being victimized—has replaced the desire for admiration or respect for some act of heroism.
I’m not sure what exactly that says about a society, but it can’t be good.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fakers-prefer-to-play-victims-now-and-the-press-and-politicians-buying-it-are-playing-into-trumps-hands
harkin (e15868) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:45 amCan Empire‘s filming permits be revoked and as an abject lesson, should any of the less-wrong lizards (as Narciso would put it), get into the mayorship?
urbanleftbehind (60453f) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:49 amA white friend was beaten severely by Latin Kings in Chicago. It was a hate crime, though not reported or adjudicated as such. They were looking for a white guy to beat up as some kind of initiation thing. He recuperated, he wrestled with bitterness and hate, and he forgave.
JRH (fe281f) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:52 amCan Empire‘s filming permits be revoked and as an abject lesson, should any of the less-wrong lizards (as Narciso would put it), get into the mayorship?
No.
You’re asking the wrong question, anyway. The correct question is: Will Kimberly M. Fox, the Cook County State’s Attorney, be more scared of the Chicago PD than she is of her suck-ass liberal constituency and not throw the case against Smollett?
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:55 amNorth side or south side kings (i ask because the mostly P. Rican north side kings beefed with whites as they encroached into the idyllic NW side and south side kings generally defer to whites and beef with blacks) and what era? Seems like something out of Stone Greasers.
urbanleftbehind (60453f) — 2/18/2019 @ 8:58 am@62. Interesting. Yep, North Side, I’m pretty sure so that makes sense. This was back in the early 90s.
JRH (fe281f) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:06 amThe Albany Park Kings (Kimball and Sunnyside) were in a shooting feud with the Vietnamese gangs in those days. Lately, I’ve only heard about them holding up the Alderman (Ward Committeeman?) and his film crew while he was shooting a campaign ad about gang violence in the community. (For real.)
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:16 amNow I understand that Smollett was willing to sign a complaint against two suspects the police had, until he found out that they were the Nigerians he hired–he was willing to sign a complaint against two innocent people to further his agenda. That is truly evil, and he should be prosecuted and then banned from polite society.
Rochf (877dba) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:26 amnk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:16 am
I totally remember that.
felipe (023cc9) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:30 amAnyone remember many moons ago when traffic would be jammed up on whatever Chicago freeway ran near the projects (Cabrini Green?) and the gang members would go car to car robbing people? I don’t know if this was considered unusual or if it happened all the time.
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:38 amWaiting to see if teh FBI storms McCabe’s domicile in a pre-dawn raid for lying to them and the DOJ.
Afterall… this is normally how it’s done…
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:40 amand the gang members would go car to car robbing people
they made it to where that’s against the law now
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:46 amI think you would have people more in fear of live fire from the upper floors. On Michigan Ave and other downtown streets, you have yoots reaching into open windows and grabbing stuff when traffic is stopped. Cabrini green, as dangerous as it was, was a geographic blip compared to the south side Robert Taylor homes which ran along the Dan Ryan expressway for 3 plus miles (that may have been the thing you talking about, especially if there was diversion of traffic to the side streets) The Taylors at the peak of their infamy comprised the 2nd largest city in Illinois.
urbanleftbehind (60453f) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:50 amThis situation made the national news – either in the 80s or 90s – and it was right on the expressway, traffic not moving, easy pickings.
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:55 amGeoffrey Ingersoll
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 10:04 am@GPIngersoll
It’s been a really bad month for the woke media. First the Buzzfeed story falls to pieces. Days later, woke media [ed.note: and a few mook here] pounces on innocent kids while amplifying the words of an obvious huckster. Northam happens and the woke ones are left flat footed. Then the Smollett case implodes
Fascinating how young men become kids, racist intimidation becomes innocence, if that narrative serves the Trump grievance industry.
But it’s really been a bad month for the Trump cause. Government shutdown, billions wasted, all so Pelosi can win a game of chicken. I can understand the urge to change the subject.
Dustin (d6e596) — 2/18/2019 @ 10:54 ammy favorite part was when we he did the emergency and we got the wall
my second favorite part was when gladys did the anthem and the cnn poofterboy was worried she was gonna get blackballed by the music industry
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 11:06 amhttp://www.lakegenevatackle.com/fishing_equipment_product_pages/Tungsten_Ice_Grub.html
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 11:45 amhttps://wikidiff.com/obsession/fascination
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 12:21 pmNow the story is developing that Smollett did it to bolster Kamala Harris’s presidential big and anti-lynching proposed law. The “attack” happened the day before her announcement. Kind of strange to set it up during a polar vortex. See Ace of Spades.
Patricia (3363ec) — 2/18/2019 @ 12:51 pm@42. Say ‘moose and squirrel’ and Mr. McCabe would’ve investigated you, Mr. Feet.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/18/2019 @ 1:16 pmThat anti-lynching law timing was just so surreal.
On message boards after the ‘attack’, I saw breathless pouncing by libs immediately ready to label anyone who opposed the new anti-lynching bill as a MAGA-wearing racist. You almost have to wonder if any politicians were stupid enough to be involved in this criminal scam.
Another thing that just came up was that Smollett allegedly scripted out that one of them needed to be sporting a red hat, which was bought at a local store – one can only surmise that he told them to SMIRK too.
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/18/2019 @ 1:21 pmWell it would have had a smidge more cred had they staged it this past week with the Auto Show in town (more actual MAGAns in town).
urbanleftbehind (60453f) — 2/18/2019 @ 1:43 pmHarris Pelosi schiff next question.
Narciso (e64f80) — 2/18/2019 @ 1:59 pm(CBS) –“Empire” actor Jussie Smollett, upset after a racist letter sent to the show’s studio didn’t get a “bigger reaction,” is suspected of paying two men to attack him a week later, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.
“When the letter didn’t get enough attention, he concocted the staged attack,” a source told CBS 2 Investigator Brad Edwards. Other sources corroborated that information.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/18/jussie-smollet-motive-staged-attack/#
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:05 pmcamel toe and spartacus both mentioned lynching in their first comments.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:08 pmhe is Spartacus!
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:16 pmscratch and catcha vegan by
teh Kamalatoe
If it ever came out toe and spartacus were coconspirators – would anyone know?
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:25 pmUPDATE: This is Kamala Harris responding to a reporter’s inquiry today about whether she had been too quick to condemn the “attack” before knowing all the facts:
Uh, too late. You already did. Remember??? Unfortunately, the reporter did not hold her feet to the fire and point out that, of all people, the former San Francisco District Attorney and Attorney General should have known to use a prudent restraint before claiming that a “modern day lynching” had taken place prior to any investigation having been completed.
(Video of Harris in the post update.)
Dana (023079) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:44 pmI’m hoping this dominoes further into the abyss.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:50 pmoh why didn’t she say so?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6716167/Jihadi-bride-east-London-Shamima-Begum-family-lawyer-says-want-baby-son-home.html
narciso (d1f714) — 2/18/2019 @ 3:54 pmCol. Haiku and mg,
Please use either Kamala Harris’s correct name or something other than what you’re using in #83 and #84.
Dana (023079) — 2/18/2019 @ 4:36 pmthey only call her that cause she’s so stupid
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/18/2019 @ 4:59 pmOh surprising not:
Narciso (c1934c) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:25 pmhttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-18/16-states-file-lawsuit-challenging-trump-border-emergency
How about that:
https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/donald-harris-slams-his-daughter-senator-kamala-harris-for-fraudulently-stereotyping-jamaicans-and-accusing-her-of-playing-identity-politics/
Narciso (c1934c) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:26 pmBIG HAIR AND SKINNY JEANS,
A short story by nk
There were two of them. I spotted them the minute they followed me out of the store.
I’d run low on cigarettes, so I’d driven to my local Jewel for a couple of packs. Marlboro Red. Hardpack.
Since I was there, I thought I might as well buy a couple of bags of Hershey’s Nuggets. I got three Hershey bars, too. The large 4.4 oz ones. Plain milk chocolate. I’ll always wonder if that might not have had something to do with it all.
They caught up to me just as I got to my Nissan Altima. Black guys in their twenties. Both wearing light colored skinny jeans and Canada Goose parkas. The one on the left also wore a blonde Dolly Parton wig and gold glitter eye shadow. The one on the right was Dottie West with a red wig and turquoise eye shadow.
“You’re the MAGA Trumper from the candy aisle”, Blonde Wig said. He sprayed me with Zum Patchouli Mist from a small glass spray-bottle in his right hand.
“This is ni**er fa**ot country!”, Red Wig yelled. He threw a pink feather boa around my neck.
Then they both turned away, and half-trotted, half-tiptoed to a black on gold Mini Cooper parked next to the Altima. Blonde Wig got in on the drivers side. Red Wig in the shotgun seat.
John, a Chicago PD patrolman from the 17th who moonlights as a security guard at the Jewel, ran up to me.
“I saw everything”, he said. “You want to press charges?”
I opened one of the Marlboro packs and shook out a couple of coffin nails. John took one and lighted both of us with his Zippo.
“Forget it”, I said. “Who’d believe us?”
We dragged on our smokes and watched Blonde Wig trying to back the Mini Cooper out of the parking spot.
“You ever drive a stick?”, John asked me.
“When I was a kid”, I said. “My boss at the gas station had an army surplus Jeep.”
“They can be tricky”, he said.
Blonde Wig would put the Mini Cooper in reverse and stall it. It was fascinating in a way. The engine would start, the backup lights would go on, and the engine would die. Then the backup lights would go off, the engine would would start, the backup lights would go back on, and the engine would die again.
John lighted two more of my Marlboros for us. The smell of tobacco blended in with the smell of patchouli and burnt clutch lining.
“I’ll throw that boa in the trash for you on my way back inside”, John said.
“Thanks”, I said.
THE END
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 5:46 pmHow about Kamillary?
harkin (b5e7fd) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:05 pmWillie’s Wonker?
nk (dbc370) — 2/18/2019 @ 7:16 pmKamala Harris is a lying, self-serving, self-promoting hairbag.
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1097487633176035328
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:17 pmExhibit Z… https://althouse.blogspot.com/2019/02/kamala-harris-is-terribly-awkward-when.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/18/2019 @ 9:19 pmfunny nk, that would get me tossed.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/19/2019 @ 3:53 amfunny nk,
Which one, mg?
that would get me tossed.
nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2019 @ 6:57 amNo way, mg. Everybody here likes you better than me.
K-toe Harris… the gift what keeps on giving… https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/18/kamala-change-columbus-day-to-indigenous-peoples-day-us-scene-of-a-crime/
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/19/2019 @ 8:10 amBut do you own a cat, nk?
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/19/2019 @ 8:12 am95, nk.
mg (8cbc69) — 2/19/2019 @ 8:16 amalmost choked reading 99.
Honestly nk, you and the Col. keep me here.
Speaking of bad jokes … https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-to-run-for-president-again-11550576499 (Caution: Opera counted 30 ads.)
nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2019 @ 8:45 amIs the cat a reference to Elliot Gould’s Phillip Marlowe, Haiku?
nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2019 @ 8:46 amIn real life … https://pagesix.com/2019/02/19/jussie-smolletts-empire-scenes-cut-after-attack-controversy/
Apparently his employers have already made their judgment.
nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2019 @ 9:43 amGanja Kamala wants free weed for her family
mg (8cbc69) — 2/19/2019 @ 12:43 pmYou would be oin fairly safe ground to claim it is hoax, becaus ethe very concept of people targeting black people with niooses ios a hoax.
And then we have the attackers shouting at him “This is MAGA country!” Can anyone believe that, not tehmselves, but that anyone else (in Chicago) could believe that Chicago is a pro-Trump place? Nationwide, maybe somebody could believe it took place in some precinct or neighborhood that voted for Trump.
And then they didn’t really ahrm him, buit just place anoose around his neck.
Also that the action took place off-camera. Rush Limbaugh thinks that was a (fortunate for us, because it was improbable) mistake on Jussie Smollett’s part (He thinks that he wanted video – that he wanted to be Rodney King II. But that Hussie Smolette didn’t notice taht the camersa wass pointed in the wriong direction.) But that, I think gets things completely wrong. he did notice that and picked the spot precisely because it was off camera.
It had to take place off camera, because Jussie Smollett could not effectivelly fake being attacked. Jussie Smolett would not be able to make a second take. (unless he really, really planned it and tried it in different locations, with a cameraman)
Now for other things it pays to be careful, Like Hussie Smolett hiring Clinton connected Lanny Davis as his lawyer. He probably did not hire Lanny Davis. I knew I had to check that out.
https://www.thewrap.com/jussie-smollett-denies-hiring-defense-attorney
That leak, I think, is another hoax – on the part of the perpetrators. They wanted people to jump at “proof” of political motivation. Oh, he probably did hire somebody connected with Clinton opolitics. Just not Lanny Davis.
There was a lot of politics there. And it was probably arranged as part of the hoax. Kamala Harris didn’t even know what “she” has tweeted, and I believe that.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 2/19/2019 @ 1:18 pmJussie, he be eviler than I thought. I initially opined that, as he would say, “it was a date gone bad” and he was too embarrassed to say so, but now it turns out that he also had a “racist letter” sent to himself, and it was when that didn’t get him the attention he wanted that he had the Nigerian brothers stage the fake attack. What this mean? The FBI are already investigating the letter. Jussie, he be looking at federal charges too.
And, Kimberly Foxx, the Cook County State’s Attorney, has recused herself from the case and is letting her First Assistant prosecute it. Which I kind of guessed that it was too hot a potato for her to handle.
nk (dbc370) — 2/19/2019 @ 7:49 pmhttp://www.newser.com/story/271586/jussie-smollett-case-takes-a-new-turn.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 2/20/2019 @ 1:33 pmTrue Bill. Class 4 felony. One to three. The maximum was upheld on a appeal in a case I am familiar with where the police had arrested the falsely accused person.
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:19 pmCharges filed? https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollet-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation-for-filing-false-police-report-police-say/5147410/
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:25 pm104… yes, indeed it was, nk.
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:27 pmIndicted. Technically, he is still only a “suspect” due to the presumption of innocence, not to mention the media who stepped on their willies now wanting to sneak away from the story quietly with noting as dramatic as the word “indicted” on a headline.
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:34 pmVery Morton Downey, Jr., of him.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:48 pmNo it was much more absurd than that,
Narciso (cb7171) — 2/20/2019 @ 5:55 pm@115. Except it wasn’t.
But as with a kick in the balls, it’s an attention-getter.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:02 pmThe same Morton Downey, Jr. who passed away in 2001? I didn’t know he had sent a fake letter to himself and then paid two extras from his show to stage a fake hate crime against him.
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:12 pmIt was thicslose to implicating random innocents, that’s what makes it worse than Downey. I hope the blowback hits deep enough into the mayoral race so a more Vrdolyak-29 type of candidate prevails.
urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:17 pmHe scribbled swastikas and other anti jew verbiage onto his own face with a marker in an airport bathroom, claiming to have been accosted by skinheads. What did him in was using the mirror and drawing the swastikas backwards.
urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:19 pmNo he just grazed himself and portrayed himself as being a victim.
Narciso (cb7171) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:19 pmMorton Downey, Jr.
Robert Downey, Jr.
Is it a tradition for people surnamed Downey to name their kids after themselves?
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:22 pmThe nut I remember was Wally George, Rebecca DeMornay’s daddy. Seems like he had a presence around the same timeframe.
Colonel Haiku (273e2b) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:22 pm@117. He faked an attention getter. Another attention-getter is to sit between two doughnuts in a mini-dress and cross your legs slowly on Fox & Friends. It’s the sugar that perks up their cuppa “morning joe.”
@119. He scribbled swastikas and other anti jew verbiage onto his own face with a marker in an airport bathroom, claiming to have been accosted by skinheads. What did him in was using the mirror and drawing the swastikas backwards.
But lung cancer from the coffin nails put him in the crush-proof box.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:40 pmWWOR-TV inadvertently caused sociopolitical waves that would manifest fully 4 years later when it moved The Morton Downey Jr. Show from its 11:30p time slot to 12:30am to make room for a new talk show helped by Arsenio Hall.
urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:59 pmRe Fox and Friends, does Brian Kilmeade draw his inspiration from Lindsay Graham or did Graham follow Kilmeades lead into Trump idolatry?
urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 7:00 pmHas anybody seen the sequel to Basic Instinct?
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 7:04 pmIt’s rather terrible:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-jussie-smollett-kass-20190219-story.html
Narciso (cb7171) — 2/20/2019 @ 7:07 pm@124. Lived near there then for a time; the lines outside the Secaucus studio for tapings were loaded w/cashews and pecans. Another young flamer destined to crash and burn who worked at WWOR around that time… Matt Lauer.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/20/2019 @ 7:21 pmCORRECTION: Apparently no indictment yet.
I shoulda known better. The New York Times. I shoulda known better. I shoulda known better. I shoulda known better.
nk (dbc370) — 2/20/2019 @ 8:55 pm“UPDATE 8:53 p.m. EST: A Cook County grand jury returned an indictment against Jussie Smollett late Wednesday afternoon. The Empire star now faces a maximum of three years in prison if found guilty of the felony charges. According to Chicago Police Chief Communications Officer Anthony Guglielmi, authorities are working with Smollett’s attorneys to “negotiate a reasonable surrender for his arrest.” ”
https://pjmedia.com/trending/jussie-smollett-now-officially-classified-as-a-suspect-in-criminal-investigation/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/20/2019 @ 9:03 pmSullivan was based on such a weasel worded advertising in the times, I had forgotten.
Narciso (cb7171) — 2/20/2019 @ 9:08 pmhttp://www.newser.com/story/271743/smolletts-tv-dad-responds-to-allegations.html
Maybe some of the cases in the documentary Smolett narrated were also fake.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 2/24/2019 @ 1:24 pm118. urbanleftbehind (9b10d3) — 2/20/2019 @ 6:17 pm
It wasn’t, but Smolett probably thought it was. he was going to file aformal complaint until he learned who the two men are.
He has now given an explanation for the $3,500 payment. he claims it was atraining fee.
And he didn’t overlook the need to explain the check payment of $3,500. The memo line reads:
“5 week Nutrition/Workout program Don’t Go.”
That “Don’t Go” might sound like it is an ungrammatical way of referring to some kind of a cancellation fee, but his people tell TMZ that “Don’t Go” is the name of a song for which he was going to shoot a music video.. And theer’s text showing a calendar where February 23 is marked “Don’t Go.”
https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/24/jussie-smollett-training-texts-payment-check-abel-attack/
He’s still denying everything. But he’s not speaking to many people – like the rest of the cast of Empire. Probably becasue it would be too ifficult to plausibly lie to all them. Although lawyers will tell even innocent people not to discuss the case. Except if you’re Roger Stone.
featuring himself shirtless
that’s what makes it worse than Downey. I hope the blowback hits deep enough into the mayoral race so a more Vrdolyak-29 type of candidate prevails.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 2/25/2019 @ 10:40 amThe attacker shows himself shirtless, to prove he lost weight.
the mayoral electionis tomorrow. No candidate is expecte to get above 20% – several will be around 15% – the top two go into arunoff.
New York City has a free for all election for Public Advocate (an office which was stripped of most of ts power and renamed a quarter fo acentury ago when teh Board of Estimate was ruled unconstitutional. There are 16 (or 17?) candidates, and theer is no runoff. tehn tgheer’s an electionn for teh remaining 2 years of his term,
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 2/25/2019 @ 10:45 am