Rosenstein Presser and Indictments
There should probably be a separate thread for this. It seemed like what Mueller should be doing, and I thought Rosenstein’s statement about putting partisanship aside was compelling.
Your thoughts below.
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
Rosenstein is one of the poster boys for partisanship. Believing anything from the department of justice is blind partisanship.
mg (0d66b4) — 7/13/2018 @ 10:49 pmThe department of justice and the fbi need to be shut down. Obama and his hoodlums did nothing but lie about Russian interference in the last election.
mg (0d66b4) — 7/13/2018 @ 10:53 pmAre you talking about this Rosenstein?
felipe (023cc9) — 7/13/2018 @ 10:54 pmThis Christopher Hunter?
nk (dbc370) — 7/13/2018 @ 11:21 pmAnd don’t forget the NYT, nk.
felipe (023cc9) — 7/13/2018 @ 11:38 pmrosytwat so dirty
there’s not enough purell in the whole mall
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/13/2018 @ 11:44 pmImpeach this freak
mg (0d66b4) — 7/13/2018 @ 11:47 pmCriminal indictments (with zero chance of convictions) from what should be a national security counterintelligence probe? Idiotic kabuki BS.
Daiwa (2a0965) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:15 amA bunch of ‘burglars’ indicted for breaking in to the DNC?!?
Wow.
Front page news! And on page five, the ’72 Pinto’s over at Potomac Ford are just under $2,000!
“It’s déjà vu all over again.” – Yogi Berra
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:17 amThis is an incredibly stupid move on Mueller/Rosenstein’s part. We’re going to indict the uniformed military personnel of a foreign nation who work at a cyber command whose job it is to conduct cyber espionage/warfare? There is nothing classified about this; we have a U.S. Cyber command. It’s located at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, MD. What do you imagine they do for a living? Oh, but we don’t need to worry about retaliation. What U.S. cyber command does is legal under U.S. law. As long as what we do is legal under U.S. law then that’s all we need to worry about.
For instance, when the U.S. directly interfered in the Israeli election in 2015 by by funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to an overtly political organization OneVoice the State Department claimed it never knew they intended to use the money for political purposes. Even though the group actively campaigns for the Israeli left every election cycle and the group sent emails to key personnel at the US embassy in Tel Aviv detailing how it was going to use the money to campaign against Netanyahu (the official official at the embassy says he routinely violates the Open Records Act by deleting emails with large attachments without reading them and if you believe that I’ve got a Peter Strzok to sell you). One of their uses for the money was to hire campaign consultants that consist largely of Obama’s 2008/2012 campaign and still maintain political ties to Obama.
Yup, OneVoice told the State Department that they were going to hire Jim Messina, Obama’s Deputy Chief of Staff during his first term, his campaign manager during his second term, and who still works with Obama because the ex-Preezy has been far more active behind the scenes organizing #TheResistance than you know. And around this front man they were going to get the whole band back together. And it wasn’t until Congress investigated US interference in the Israeli election that the State Dept. even heard about it. In their finest SGT. Schultz imitation they knew nothing.
And of course Obama didn’t know anything about it until it was in the news.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/
What did the Congressional investigation conclude? The Obama administration didn’t break any US laws.
Guess what? The GRU broke no Russian laws. What court is going to apply the famous “It’s only legal when we do it” standard to cyber espionage? We have a Russian military cyber unit on Russian soil doing exactly what the US cyber unit on US soil does to our adversaries, but they broke the law and we aren’t? One of the more brain-dead arguments against using enhanced interrogation techniques against terrorist detainees is that then they’d be justified waterboarding any US prisoners. Really? The terrorists who burn captured Jordanian pilots alive take their moral cues from us? I suppose there are people who are stupid enough to believe that, but here we are indicting foreign military personnel for doing to us what our military does to them. And we no longer have to worry about retaliation, why?
Clearly the FBI/DoJ have a lot to cover up for the Obama administration. This is actually a
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:08 amcyber security issue. Does anyone remember the massive C
Old rosey looked guilty talking to us like a catholic nun during lent
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:05 amCHICOM hack into GSA personnel records, specifically a treasure trove of personal information on anyone who applied for a TS/SCI clearance since I believe the year 2000? I do.
Now, first of all someone tell me why someone hacking into the DNC/Clinton campaign servers is an act of war but a foreign government hacking into federal government system and stealing information that can be used to compromise civilian and military personnel with high level security clearances isn’t? I’m just curious about that.
Second, the Soviets had been meddling in our elections since shortly after the October Revolution of 1917. That’s an exaggeration but not by much. What we have is a combination of two things. The Obama administration refused to take cyber security seriously, as even after massive security breaches (let’s not forget the GSA breach wasn’t the only one on their watch; someone also hacked into the WH system, for instance) they did little or nothing to improve our cyber security capabilities. And Obama refused to take the Russian threat seriously. Per the indictment they first detected Russian meddling in March 2016. Which is before Trump was the GOP nominee BTW. And they didn’t do anything about it. Deliberately.
The Soviets/Russians have been attempting to meddle in our elections, and European elections, for nearly 100 years and this is the first administration in my entire live that couldn’t bother to take it at all seriously. Until Hillary lost, then as far as Obama was concerned it became a national crisis. Everything is subordinate to politics the TFG.
I also don’t believe it was the GRU. They’re military intelligence. Political dirty tricks are more the specialty of Russia’s foreign intelligence service the SVR. Or the FSB, which is technically Russia’s internal intelligence and secret police agency. But Putin is an old KGB thug, and the in addition to operating internally they also operated in what the Soviets used to call the “near abroad.” Putin, for instance, was stationed in East Germany and he was tasked with recruiting informers and East Germans who could travel abroad (such as academics) as spies. The FSB is the successor to the KGB, and Putin seems to favor them, sometimes assigning them operations that technically should go to the SVR.
Other than that these organizations tend to stick to their lanes in the road. The GRU would be an odd choice for interfering in an election. And I think I’ll stop here. Suffice to say I suspect they’re sweating bullets, hoping none of the individuals named in the indictment or the Russian government on their behalf engages counsel as did “Putin’s chef” Yevgeny Prigozhin. Because the Mueller team clearly never thought they’d have to prove their case at trial. And then as now I don’t believe they can make their case.
One last thing; I did not find Rosenstein’s “call to patriotism” compelling. Rather, as when Strzok wrapped himself in the flag and claimed it was unpatriotic to even question him about his motives I found it cynical and self-serving. Apparently now it’s unpatriotic for the rebellious peasants to question their betters in the FBI and DoJ. Why, if you question or criticize them it means you are in league with Putin and you want the terrorists to win.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:11 amCan we do the daily double impeachment of old rosey and the incredibly always missing
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:17 amSessions?
My bad, the 2015 CHICOM hack was into the OPM system. They stole information on over 21 Million American citizens. If you recall, the Obama admin tried to downplay it publicly, releasing information about the true extent of the breach in drips and drabs. And it turned out the Obama administration had know about the full extent of the theft for months before they publicly announced it.
Remember Josh Earnest? Man that guy was a weasel; the perfect spokeshole for Obama.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/03/abcs_jon_karl_grills_josh_earnest_why_was_there_no_public_response_when_china_hacked_opm.html
There’s video at the link. Basically, the “material difference” Earnest is referring to is the CHICOM hack only threatened unimportant stuff like over 21 million people’s identities, personal information, and national security. But the Russian meddling threatened Obama’s legacy by jeopardizing Hillary’s chances to preserve it and that means war.
Oh, and I was poking around and Obama’s interference in Israeli elections is even worse than I suspected, It turns out that in 2010 the DoS granted just slightly less than $1M to an organization called the Abraham Fund. Like OneVoice it’s one of those leftist Israeli peacenik organizations that invite their Palestinian neighbors do destroy the Jewish state. I mean, work for closer Israeli-Arab relations. Same thing. And like OneVoice, when elections roll around they have a GOTV campaign as well as campaign for leftist pols. Since the grant was earmarked for a specific purpose the Abraham Fund wasn’t supposed to use any of the money for their political activities. But they paid their workers from the DoS grant and their employees worked on all their projects.
So US taxpayers paid Abraham Fund workers to campaign for leftist causes and to sign up Israeli leftists to vote. And the US embassy in Tel Aviv encouraged these political activities.
The State Department of course knew it was funding groups to interfere in Israeli elections. No doubt that’s why instead of putting restrictions on the grant money it gave to OneVoice in 2015 if put no restrictions at all. And OneVoice emailed its plan to use the money for political purposes to the US embassy during the grant period. In other words, before they actually had received the money. No wonder the tool at the embassy claims he deleted the email without reading the attachment because “it was too large.” It was the only way to maintain deniability. Not plausible deniability, in this case implausible deniability that the Obama administration didn’t know exactly what it was doing. Deliberately interfering in another country’s election.
BTW, Putin operates exactly the same way as Obama did in Israel. He doesn’t always interfere
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:09 amby hacking. Sometimes like Obama he violates another nation’s sovereignty by bankrolling groups.
Why does the fact that we have a US cyber command have anything to do with Putin operatives illegally hacking Democrat servers and emails? Cyber warfare exists on both sides, but why does that argue against prosecution for hackers who intended to tip the scales in an American election?
That’s been fact-checked, and fact-checked.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:24 amAnd whether Putineers or not, they hacked into servers on US soil and they broke US law, more specifically various sections of Title 18, US Code. At minimum, and along with the other indictments against Putineers and PutinLand businesses, this proves the degree to which Putin has cyber-attacked the United States during a presidential election cycle. This also establishes a framework for evaluating the if or how much Americans were involved (knowingly and unknowingly) in this illegal operation.
Wait until Russia hacks our power grid and shuts down electricity on the east coast for 8 months. I guess we’ll be hearing about how there’s nothing we can do about it because they didn’t break Russian laws.
James (5ca9c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:54 amOur system is flawed with Obama hacks that couldn’t detect any cyber espionage. So blame Trump. Impeach all these pos lawyers hacking our lives.
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:01 amEspionage and sabotage have always been illegal. The only defense is “You didn’t catch me. I’m home, safe.”
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:01 amGotta love Putin’s fifth column here, defending the foreign military forces that attacked our country and slandering the Americans trying to defend us…
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:02 amObama should be in jail Davey boy.
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:08 amThe witch hunt is nothing more than Muellar padding his hired lawyers pensions. Too bad taxpayer can’t take off work to hang these sons of biotches
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:13 amAnd you can keep your doctor and your plan, now netanyahu is a much more dynamic candidate than netanyahu, that’s why it didn’t work.
Of course if you examine the code from what crowdstrike provided, its of Ukrainian origin and not common to fab usage,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:15 amI agree, it’s a stupid move.
Rather than indicting them, we should make them KIA.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:16 amThe lengths the press will go to undermine IsrAel are legendary, I’ve mentioned how friedman’s first story on the shatila massacre blamed a militia that was hundreds of miles away, the sla for that incident, which was carried out in the orders of one maronite official from the village
Of damour, who had carried out a blood feud, seven years before the Palestinians had slaughtered it.
A lesser know story was a time magazine halevy, who accused Ariel Sharon of having a particular personnel animus, against arafat, based on his sons death, it was rightly cinduderd a blood libel charge and in the ensuing lawsuit they found there was no such utterance.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:23 amif we send our navy to apprehend these crime-doers they’ll just roll out some cargo ships and kill all our mans 🙁
it appears we are at an impasse
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:23 am“Russian spies apprehended? Anonymous leaks not from government officials? Who is Rosenstein kidding?
There is one sense, however, in which the indictment is quite serious. In its opening page, the indictment explains that the 12 named individuals conspired “to gain unauthorized access (to “hack”) into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, steal documents from those computers, and stage releases of the documents to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”
It may not matter at all — in fact, as The Last Refuge explained Friday — it may be to Mueller’s benefit that the 12 Russian intelligence officers will never set foot in this country. The point of the indictment is to set the predicate for Mueller’s forthcoming case that Trump’s campaign knew in advance about the staged releases and prepared campaign strategy accordingly. And that will be called “collusion.” “
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/07/why-mueller-indicting-12-russians-is-meaningless-theatre/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:23 amSo when is Mueller going to indict the Taliban scouts spying on our troops’ movements in Afghanistan?
Espionage and sabotage are crimes for which the perpetrators have been executed, but an essential element of the offense is “We caught you!”.
Mr. Mueller is desperately scratching to justify his existence, I think.
Lawyers!
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:24 amI’m having trouble understanding why any of this makes a foreign military attack on our country OK.
Would you have brought up some dodgy element of the New Deal to excuse the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor?
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:31 amFrom the same article… Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made a huge splash Friday by announcing that special counsel Robert Mueller has issued an indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence operatives for hacking the computer systems of two top Democratic campaign committees.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:32 amWhat Rosenstein didn’t say in making that announcement suggests the indictment was made public as a public relations play intended to manipulate voters rather than a public information service provided to help American citizens understand what their government is doing.
One word Rosenstein did utter during his news conference tells the story — “apprehension.” As when the deputy attorney general who appointed Mueller said: “The special counsel’s investigation is ongoing and there will be no comments by the special counsel at this time … we intend to transition responsibility for this indictment to the Justice Department’s National Security Division (NSD) while we await the apprehension of the defendants.”
Congressional Democrats quickly seized on the indictment to demand that President Donald Trump either cancel his meeting Monday in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin or challenge Putin to agree to extradite the indicted intelligence officers.
And that’s why Rosenstein’s Friday news conference was meaningless except as attempted manipulation of public perception of the special counsel investigation of allegations aides to Trump’s 2016 campaign colluded with Russian interests.”
Is there something different this time? Last time some Russians were indicted, some of them demanded discovery. Mueller apparently hadn’t anticipated that. How stupid do you have to be to be Mueller? So what happens now?
Richard Aubrey (3d7f6e) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:33 amEither the charges are dropped or Mueller explains sources and methods which, in other circumstances, is considered a Bad Thing.
So Obama and his seventeen crack intelligence agencies missed the biggest thing in US history, or something.
And if I get the implication, finding out what the democrats were up to is interfering in the election.
the dirty fbi poofterboys why didn’t they ever examine the server?
they’re so unpatriotism and horny all the time
horny for Lisa
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:34 am“compelling”… I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Is it the lies? Is it the style?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:36 amWhy does rosey pass this off to the Doj-Nsd? Because it’s going nowhere. It’s made up. The same Doj-Nsd who were involved in the unlawful fisa 702 database searches. How convenient. More made up b. S.
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:39 amRosenstein gave red queen her clean bill of health in 97, then joined the justice dept, he was the Clinton foundations
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:40 amprotector in the tax division, as us atty years later, he slow walked a case against a party associated with rosatom the state uranium department, he signed of on one of the visa warrants against carter page.
Now what was interesting about that last case, was the CEO of transligistics a fmr south African diplomat named rod fisk had died, however his computer was subsequently destroyed in a freak accident, sound familiar.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:43 amthe hot and horny men and women of the piss-stained fbi are too corrupt!
they should all be indicted by Russia and also Puerto Rico and Switzerland
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:45 amWhen bitcoin finally crashes, I wonder if the GRU-bots will go away…
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:46 amMeanwhile in Managua, where the dictator was so favored by chuck Todd’s boss John Kerry and Gary Hart that they tried to impeach Reagan for opposing him, they are staging another mobbing of the church, after the 150 dead protesters.
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:48 amYou want to go to war, perhaps nuclear, with russia over this, davey.
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:49 amRussia Russia Russia Russia Russia, Davey boy
Mark Gibbons (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:52 amWhen higher education crashes (see student debt bubble, inflated tuition costs, substandard education), I wonder if the faculty lounge mentality will follow?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:52 amlet’s not forget the sewer where evil fbi gestapo-clown bobby mueller trawls for his “evidence”
(and remember that “evidence” in the piss-stained fbi sense is not what real Americans think of as evidence)
yes yes
the hot and horny men and women of the piss-stained fbi
all their evidence is spoon-fed to them by a sleazy slimy democrat law firm
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:54 amAs FDR said, “hostilities exist.”
They sent their army to attack us. It’s time to start fighting back.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:03 am“Sean Spicier
harkin (56a257) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:07 am@sean_spicier
I don’t understand how Russians could’ve gotten into Hillary Clinton’s server. She kept it locked in a bathroom and everything”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/07/the-week-in-pictures-freakout-at-11-edition.php
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:12 amAre Mueller and his assistants billing by the hour?
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:14 amEven if they steal the design, they are woefully outmatched:
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-admits-defeat-su-57-not-going-into-mass-production-2018-7
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:23 ampension padding at its finest
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:25 amMuellers worth 18 million, mostly from representing outfits like banamex (a Mexican bank) and Facebook, wait what?
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:29 amMueller and Rosenstein may believe this indictment shows Russia how much we know about what his government has done, but it actually shows them all the things we don’t know. Whatever their motivation in bringing and announcing the indictment that decision should not have just been briefed to the president it should have been made by the one person in our government tasked with the responsibility to conduct the nation’s foreign policy and defense. Lawfare is useless as anything other than a political tool. The gotcha game is a useless exercise against nuclear armed nation state that doesn’t share our western values. The only thing this accomplishes is to put a big “hack me” sign on the back of the United States.
Shifting the blame from the individuals and organizations who failed to practice even rudimentary information security is downright dumb but nothing new.
We’re being beaten at our own game. Twenty years ago we called this Total Information Awareness. Our adversaries saw the risk it presented to them and the opportunities our open and free-wheeling society presented to turn the tables on US and they have. It’s past time to wake up.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:32 amIf the Russians are so smart why did they leave such a trail of evidence?
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:34 amAnd if the fbi is so smart why didn’t they set up one of these Russians and gather evidence and arrest him?
That’s just it, mg, there isn’t any such evidence, as Jeffrey Carr noted, there are tell tale signs of a Russian hacker syndicate, who were arrested by the Kremlin in August 2016.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:37 amShorter Bret Stephens: Putin wins.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:47 amWhere is efrem zimbalist jr. he was a much better actor than rosey
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:50 amThere is no “shifting of blame”.
It’s dumb to leave your house unlocked, but it’s not a crime. Neither is failure of a private organization (the government is a different story) to deploy cyber-defenses capable of withstanding a coordinated and sustained attack by the military of a former superpower backed with effectively unlimited resources.
Entering someone else’s house unbidden, and stealing from it, is a crime – whether the house is locked or unlocked. Likewise the blame here falls exclusively on the perpetrators.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:59 amIf folks want politics taken out of the DoJ, then just maybe the effing Senate Democrats should let votes happen for the Assistant AG for the Criminal Division, the Assistant AG for the Civil Division and the Assistant AG for the Civil Rights Division, all of which have been waiting for a year now.
But, as usual, when people say “take the politics out”, they mean “take your politics out, they are interfering with OUR politics.” When people talk about DC being tribal, I check my wallet, because my pocket is being picked.
The DoJ has Trump appointees at the top, but the rank & file positions remain infested with Obama’s hard-left stalwarts. So, not the place you send the confidential vetting papers with the expectation they remain confidential.
The whole thing is toxic, and it is largely the fault of Senate Democrats.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:05 amPaul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:24 am, is this point really beyond you? You cite a bunch of laws we have against what they supposedly did (and I doubt the DoJ can prove that they did it for a variety of reasons). Guess what? Other countries have laws against what we do to them.
It’s really hard to understand, isn’t Paul? I guess we should only gather intelligence in countries that make it legal for us to do so, huh, Mr. National Security.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:06 amHe’s new here, to take either politifact or Glenn Kessler seriously, oh maybe he’s just being a jerk.
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:08 amThat these indictments — of people who will never appear — were made as Trump made ready to meet with Putin is an outrageous interference in foreign policy by Mueller. It seemed highly partisan and fed the MSM like nobody’s business.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:08 amWhere is efrem zimbalist jr.
An existential question.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:09 amIt’s in the spirit of Lawrence Walsh, who had been sabotaging the republicans at least 20 years, from the Paris peace talks to the aba standing committee.
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:10 amThat these indictments — of people who will never appear — were made as Trump made ready to meet with Putin is an outrageous interference in foreign policy by Mueller. It seemed highly partisan and fed the MSM like nobody’s business.
+++++
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:13 aman outrageous interference in foreign policy by Mueller
and poor slobbering coward John McCain didn’t miss a beat in calling for the summit to be canceled
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:15 amI am not Trump’s biggest supporter, but I’m sick of this clown show. Mueller, Strzok, Stormy, Manafort, Cohen … I wish they’d all just f-f-f-fade away.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:19 amtrashy chuck schumer joined disgraced navy turd john mccain in calling for the summit to be canceled
but poor addled nancy pelosi went off the reservation
this is a good time to remember that when all this was *actually happening*
president food stamp, the lickspittle Comey FBI, and chunky-butt Loretta’s corrupt department of justice all stood down
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:20 amIs McCain even conscious? Is he the one saying all these things or is it Ben Domenech?
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:21 amwas McCain *ever* really the one behind the deranged bloodthirsty piffle what spewed out of his coward mouth
#theydidsomethingtohisbrain
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:24 amNancy Pelosi too. Is that really botox or the best they could with a Pelosi face on a Japanese robot.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:24 amIt’s perfectly clear, steve57, you’re employing the “everybody does it” defense, an old Clinton classic. Also an old Clinton classic is the systematic campaign to discredit the parties who were tasked with investigating the president and his people.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:24 amThe real issue with China and their theft of millins of OPM records is our lack of visible response. Obama did nothing and there’s no evidence that Trump has done anything either. Maybe we have made some retaliatory cyber attacks but, if so, they’ve been done very quietly.
Mark Salter he writes that creepy roman a clef about Obama, think of parseltongue,
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:26 amSo, when is Mueller going to indict the WaPo for spreading lies about various officials to influence elections. Colbert King alone is responsible for a lot.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:32 amPence, as President of the Senate, should demand an in-person meeting with McCain to insure that the statements attributed to him are really coming from him. The Fake News media posts old photos of McCain that make it look like he’s being interviewed but when you read the stories it’s only tweets and written press releases.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:32 amI am not Trump’s biggest supporter, but I’m sick of this clown show. Mueller, Strzok, Stormy, Manafort, Cohen … I wish they’d all just f-f-f-fade away.
I have had to buy three new BS-meters since Trump took office. And Trump one broke one of them.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:34 amYou need to recalibrate mine was busted around 2009, ben Smith was covering for Obama,
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:39 amPence, as President of the Senate, should demand an in-person meeting with McCain
it’s entirely possible Mr. nk that the sole reason the lobsterpot bimbo and the tundra bimbo have both been so amenable to Kavanaugh is they were asked to stand down so as not to increase pressure on the arizona coward to do the right thing and resign
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:39 am@55. Dave we’re not that far apart but I believe you’re missing an important distinction. If the facts are as alleged in the indictment we’re not talking about common crimes we expect the government to investigate and prosecute, we’re talking about acts of espionage by agents of a foreign power acting in its own perceived interest in exactly the same way our agents act in our perceived interest. We employ people to do exactly what these people did and will continue to do. When caught we deny it as they do. When confronted I expect Putin will do so with a twinkle in his eyes while thinking, “so what are you gonna do about it?”
If you want the federal government to protect the information systems of political parties, candidates and campaigns then we part company because it can not be done with administrative access and knowledge of every piece of data flowing through or stored on the system. If we wish to live in a free society that is the responsibility of individuals and groups not government.
Acts of espionage need to identified and acted on as acts of espionage not common crimes. If the president wanted the indictment announced as it was then it’s a tool of diplomacy. If not, it’s a political tool being wielded by the acting AG in ways we’ll continue to debate.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:41 amIf you connect to the US telecommunications network from overseas, there is no way not to leave a trail.
The massive volume of traffic means it takes time to find it, and the indictment explains many things the Russians did to cover their tracks.
It looks to me like the investigators were able to retrieve and reconstruct a non-neglible fraction (or maybe even all) of the IP packets that passed between the Russian military and the machines in the US that they compromised.
It’s obvious the Russians accepted the risk of detection and aimed at plausible deniability. They may have also expected that some people in the US – like you, for instance – would put partisan expediency ahead of loyalty to the country and willingly serve as accomplices after the fact by denying the attack itself, and obfuscating its source.
You think they were in the United States? LOL
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:42 amAnd Putin’s pet oligarch Vladimir Potanin has (or hopefully had) access to Maryland voter registration records. Nothing to see here folks, because China or something.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:44 amAnd yet Hillary won, btw Heidelberg was bug into video games, you want to boycott them, this is the same garbage when w won first it was hanging chats then diebold and esd odd that didn’t matter in 06 or 08
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:51 amYou think they were in the United States? LOL
remember that obama’s “department of homeland security” gave Natalia Veselnitskay (“close ties to the Kremlin”) special parole visas so she could come and collude with Fusion GPS
it’s a very recent pivot that the hot and horny men and women of the lickspittle fbi have made
they’ve gone from viewing russian spies agents and hackers as helpful collaborators to drawing up phony unsupported indictments on them
and only their hairdresser knows for sure why
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:52 amBelgium is eating England’s lunch, whattup.
Narciso (53e1b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:52 amMaryland voter registration records
Maryland voted 60.3% for crooked-ass hillary and for President Trump? 34%
so yeah even the hot and horny men and women of the corrupt fbi know that’s not where you need to diddle and fiddle
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:55 amDoes McCain even have the mental capacity to resign at this point? That is the question. And if not, will two-thirds of the Senate vote to expel him? I bet not. It would be unprecedented and historic and give Republicans one more vote. But at least, if we know for sure that he’s out of it, we can ignore “his statements”.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:01 am@76 my bad: because it can not be done without administrative access and knowledge
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:04 amomg i just heard
President Trump walked in front of the smelly old british slut-queen!
He’s so historic I love him more than daffodils
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:14 amFormer Director of the CIA pwned by a high school kid
https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1018157503077593088
harkin (56a257) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:16 amBig mistake to piss off the British Tourism Board. Remember what they did to Dianna.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:18 amDianna was a very loose woman – kind of like Lisa Page in a tiara
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:19 amoh it’s *diana* i asked the googles
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:20 amThe government doesn’t need to station a cop in your bedroom to protect you from being robbed. A competent burglar may succeed a few times before being caught and some may never be caught at all, but that is no argument against trying to catch them, and locking them up when we do.
Also I think you are way of base in suggesting that spies do not belong in the criminal justice system. Spies have been prosecuted under the law for ages. The only thing slightly different here is that the spies are active military personnel of a country we are formally at peace with. Hostile combatants in a region where the civil authorities are not operating would be handled differently.
Since the civil authorities of the United States do not operate in Moscow, I do think we would be within our rights to use deadly force to apprehend or neutralize hostile uniformed personnel responsible for a military attack on our soil, if the local satraps won’t deliver them up.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:20 amthe spies are active military personnel of a country we are formally at peace with
here’s where we are:
the gestapo russian spies what they do on presidential campaigns are bad but the spies the gestapo FBI does on presidential campaigns are yum yum good
but this seems like a distinction without a difference to me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:25 amTravel much, Davey boy?
mg (0d66b4) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:28 amour friends at the null hedge did some good work in this post they promptly buried
They look at the whole pattern and they make a compelling case that you can tie Mueller’s silly indictments to the crowd what’s super-eager to get our tatters greased in Syria while spending gobs of money and stretching our inept military even thinner:
And by working in concert like this one thing becomes very clear.
Our tatters are all up in Syria NOT to constrain Russia or Iran, but to constrain Israel.
It’s kind of right out in the open now huh.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:36 amYou need to recalibrate mine was busted around 2009, ben Smith was covering for Obama,
I switched to a not-BS-meter during the Obama years. Far less activity.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:37 amDoes McCain even have the mental capacity to resign at this point?
Hard to say. Time for a delegation of elder statesmen to make a visit and suggest he step down.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:39 amFormer Director of the CIA pwned by a high school kid
Not only was it a phony-Lincoln quote, but CIA directors who lie to Congress should probably not blame other people about lost freedom.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:42 amThat’s a great idea. Let’s just pass on investigating Putin’s pet oligarchs’ access to voter registration records based on how many D’s and R’s voted. Better yet, let’s welcome ByteGrid’s access to all the states with more than 26-point margins.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:43 amLet’s just pass on investigating Putin’s pet oligarchs’ access to voter registration records based on how many D’s and R’s voted.
kinda like how the perverted and oh-so-horny men and women of the corrupt fbi passed on investigating Hillary?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:45 amI do think we would be within our rights to use deadly force to apprehend or neutralize hostile uniformed personnel responsible for a military attack on our soil, if the local satraps won’t deliver them up.
Because OUR hands are so totally clean here. We have never been at war with Afghanistan, for example.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:45 amJohn Brennan quoted an Abraham Lincoln that did not exist?
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:45 ampanty-boy mattis and his happy band of tatters are nowhere to be found when the genocide goes down
go ahead axe the syrians i’ll wait
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:47 amIt was a paraphrase of part of of Lincoln’s Gettysburg address. And Lincoln himself predicted at the time that people would shortly forget what he said. (I’m paraphrasing.)
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:48 amSorry. Lincoln’s Lyceum Address according to the Twitter comments.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:49 amTrump used the same phony Lincoln quote back in 2015.
Now teh Derp State takes it as it’s own. Derpity Derp Derp.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:50 amI forgot what he actually said at Gettysburg.
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:50 am“I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
—- A. Lincoln, Zombie Slayer
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:54 amThat’s a lie Colonel. He was a Vampire Slayer. It was Elizabeth Bennett that killed all the zombies and stopped legitimate Democrat votes.
NJRob (b00189) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:57 amAbraham Lincoln!
President Lincoln was very tall and not particularly handsome i think
he also freed a lot of people and spoke movingly of unity
he is on many postage stamps and monies
He jumped out a window one time too.
For freedom!
President Lincoln made one big mistake though by going to see a play where somebody shot bullets on him, killing him fatally.
And Mr. Walt Whitman, a Known Homosexual, comforted a grieving nation.
Abraham Lincoln!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:58 amLol, NJ Rob… https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Screen-Shot-2018-07-14-at-8.49.09-AM-600×429.png
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:58 amDid you kill all your brain cells by going on a bender last night?
1. The CHICOMs attacked your country by hacking into the Office of Personnel Management system and stealing information on 21 plus million American citizens. Current and former military personnel, civilian personnel, and contractors. And much of that information concerned background investigation information for top level clearances.
2. Barack Obama was supposed to defend against by taking cyber security seriously. He didn’t, and as a result he seriously compromised national security by letting the Chinese find out who has what clearance, is read into what program, who their family members are, where they live, etc.
3. Obama never even responded. No compounds seized, no diplomats expelled, despite the fact the OPM breach actually harmed national security.
4. Whoever hacked into the DNC servers, a non-governmental system and therefore not an attack o your country, could only do so because DWS like Obama couldn’t take cyber security seriously. Because they also tried to get into the RNC system and failed.
5. That’s really odd. If you and the rest of the left think what someone did to the DNC servers was an “act of war” shouldn’t you be angry at DWS for preventing the FBI from gaining access to her servers so the could conduct their analysis? If the DNC didn’t take the breach seriously enough to let the FBI at least investigate, why should the rest of us take it more seriously than they did. Apparently there was something on those servers it was really important to keep the FBI from looking at.
6. The DNC destroyed the servers. Something stinks about that.
7. Whoever hacked into the Clinton campaign IT system, actually didn’t have to hack into it because John Podesta was stupid enough to respond to a spear phishing scam.
8. Whoever got into these systems only succeeded in getting embarrassing emails. Hardly the crown jewels of US national security technology. There’s nothing important on them so that attack was hardly a threat to national security let alone the cyber version of Pearl Harbor.
9. I don’t believe Rosenstein when he says the GRU did it because the GRU hunts bigger, different game. If it was Russian it would have been the SVR or FSB. But if it was SVR, FSB, or GRU then they would have gotten into the RNC system as well. On the other hand maybe they did get into the RNC system. If it were any of the above services you’d never detect the intrusion. So why was the DNC hack so sloppy?
We are not being told a lot of truth here, if any. I don’t understand this mania for indicting Russians in absentia. When it comes to actual Trump campaign-Putin gub’mint collusion there’s never anyone around to actually put into the court room at the defense table (Manafort doesn’t count as he’s charged with years old financial crimes primarily in Ukraine)). Why, it’s almost like there’s nothing to this whole Trump-Russia collusion tale. I suppose that’s why Mueller and his deputies freaked out when Yevgeny Prigozhin’s legal team showed up to defend him in the Russian troll farm case. Clearly the Mueller team never expected anyone to show up and contest the charges. And from their panic attack they never wanted anyone to show up and contest it.
They didn’t want to give the “Putin’s chef” defense team the information they demanded in their discovery request. Here’s what you have to know when dealing with classified evidence. If the information itself is so vital to national security the prosecutor doesn’t want to reveal it in court, forego the prosecution. If it will compromise sources and methods, forgo the prosecution. It’s better to let the man walk than to call attention to the vitally important classified intormation. I doubt the evidence they claim to have even exists, and apparently neither does Putin’s chef. His jaunty legal team seems cock sure they’re calling an elaborate bluff.
As of now Mueller and his crew just look impotent. They keep indicting people in the belief they won’t show up. When someone shows up, they demonstrate the last thing they want to do is try the case. Either way, Impotent. And Impotent is never a good look.
Something is going on here because nothing adds up. And it reeks of pure politics. It’s as if the Mueller team has to leave the dems with something to make it appear that there was something to this whole Trump-Russia myth. Darn it! If only we could have gotten our hands on those wily Russians Mueller kept indicting while they were safely in Russia we could have made them talk.
In any case I suppose this Trump-Russia thing is about dead and there will be nothing more to it. Why do I suspect that? Because a consulting firm called Stonington Global LLC issued a statement that Gen. Michael Flynn had joined the firm. Flynn’s attorneys issued a counter statement saying Flynn had not joined the firm. Yet. It appears it’s simply a matter of timing. Flynn’s attorneys said that he was aware a statement was being drafted, but it shouldn’t have been released “at this time.” A spokesman for Stonington Global issued a statement that they would work with Flynn on the timing of the announcement. Apparently it could be another sixty days until Flynn is sentenced, but is attorneys are “confident” he’ll spend no time in jail.
In other words, Mueller is letting go of Flynn.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:00 amYour affirmative action feel good story of the day. (No, it’s not really feel good.)
nk (dbc370) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:01 amBecause they also tried to get into the RNC system and failed.
but evil gestapo-clown bobby mueller doesn’t mention this in his silly indictment at all
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:03 amWhoever got into these systems only succeeded in getting embarrassing emails.
nevertrump forgets that whoever hacked the DNC server did America and history an extraordinary public service
we’d have never known how close the Democrats had come to nominating doddering chavista bernie sanders – how many sleazy things they had to do to prevent him from grabbing the nomination from Hillary
we’d never know about all the health concerns people had about the criminal pig-woman
or how CNN Jake Tapper fake news had used Donna Brazile to leak debate questions
or that, just like Nazi Germany’s Angela Merkel, Hillary desired a flood of illegals they could use to disenfranchise citizens
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:09 amFunny thing, the principals in that firm, muzin and allaham, why is that important because that country was suspected of hacking the emails of the uae ambassador otaiba. Oddly Mueller has also been after players in the uae who are friendly with irael.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:12 amOddly Mueller has also been after players in the uae who are friendly with irael.
this isn’t odd in the slightest – there’s an entire pattern that supports this
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:13 amI’m sure the joint Trump/Putin Cyber Security unit will prevent this in the future
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:14 amAnother detail the uae has been supporting egtptian president Assisi, and future libyan president hafter who have been opposed by the Egyptian brotherhood and bel had
Want to take a gander which law firm recently represented Qatari interests?
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:15 amCurious, pikachu, so qatar hacks the record of one out close allies, but they have 15 million powerful friends at brookings.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:17 amMueller does not give press conferences. Nor does any member of his team. The special counsel lets indictments and guilty pleas speak for themselves, after the fact.
Because Rosenstein is the deputy Attorney General overseeing the investigation, it is his responsibility give press conferences and announce indictments. Some may question the timing, while ignoring that the investigation has been ongoing for months, gathering evidence and building cases, that grand jury proceedings take weeks, and that indictments take days of deliberation, not to mention that Trump was briefed before the indictments were handed out and the announcement was made, by at least a week in fact. He knew what was coming down the pipeline.
The reason why news outlets and public officials still employ the “Friday night dump” is because it’s a carry-over from the days when print newspapers dominated. Saturday mornings and evenings had the lowest circulation rates, so for a report or story to get the most attention it had to be released in the evening edition the night before. Plus doing so gave the watchful public something to talk about and debate over the weekend. The Sunday (people going to church) or Monday (people going back to work) morning and evening editions wouldn’t have had the desired effect, nor would the editions published on the other days of the work week.
The suggestion that the press conference of the indictments was deliberately planned to disrupt the US-Russia summit, between Trump and Putin, is belied by the fact that the indictments had been issued and their announcement planned before the date of the summit was declared.
Trump and his supporters can spin it however which way the want, but they can’t escape the truth.
GawainsGhost (b25cd1) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:18 amFurthermore one of the independent islands in the emirate chain is ras al khalmah they had a family feud, between two bros one was against Iran, the other was not, guess whose on the throne and who previously represented him?
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:19 amThat would be Glenn Simpson and Sudan Schmidt before the former went on to form fusion with Thomas catan
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:21 amTruth be told, Obama must be lauded for his restraint, for his decision to not make a big deal out of this with Putin back when it first became known prior to the November 2016 election. In addition, his machinations behind the curtain vis-à-vis his use of the Derp State he’d further politicized is also quite laudable.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:26 amSome may question the timing
one person who doesn’t question the timing of fbi slut-hole bobby mueller’s silly indictments is Ted Lieu:
so yeah we have an unaccountable FBI p.o.s. spending hundreds of millions of dollars to subvert the foreign policy of the United States
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:30 amWell Obama had steely told Putin no, and that was that.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:30 amYou can never please that guy,
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:31 am“At least half the quotes you find on the internet are fake”– Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Harvard College, 1864
James (5ca9c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:33 am“Hey… knock it off, Vladimir. I’m flexible, but you are taking advantage of teh situation.”
—- Barcky Obama
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:35 amWhat? Giving a million to the fund of an adulterer? Only a Trump superfan could excuse that!
No, but parking your car in a bad neighborhood overnight with the windows down and the keys in the ignition to collect on insurance is.
lee (ab26cf) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:41 amThe witch-hunters have precisely the same problem Trump has: their public personas are, to all but the most enthusiastic, quite repulsive. Rosenstein, Comey, Meuller, Strzok, McCabe . . . they all come across as sneaky little sh1ts. That the top echelon of federal law enforcement is populated by such slimy characters is bad news for the nation, but very good news for President Trump. They make themselves easy targets, as Trump so handily demonstrates.
Just makes you wonder how this will affect the credibility of FBI agents in future courtroom proceedings.
ThOR (d25d69) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:48 amTrump’s ambassador lobbied Britain on behalf of jailed activist Tommy Robinson
cowards like disgraced never-president navy-turd John McCain tweet tweet tweet
but it’s stalwart men like President Trump who fight for freedom
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:53 ami’m just saying what everybody else is thinking
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:58 amCan only a commenter be a troll, or can the term be used towards a blog’s author? I can’t tell from the dictionaries.
Anon Y. Mous (acdecf) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:00 amThor
Richard Aubrey (3d7f6e) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:18 amYeah. Reputation. Waco. Ruby Ridge. Withheld exculpatory evidence from Ted Stevens. Tried to frame Richard Jewell but Bubba Rent-a-Cop was too smart for them. Falsely imprisoned four guys to protect Whitey Bulger–cost the feds $100 million when the stuff hit the fan. Drove one guy to suicide and paid another $6 mill for persecution on the anthrax case and still don’t know who did it. Missed the Tsarnaev clan despite a heads-up from Russian intel. Let Mateen slide because his old man was a feeb snitch.
Don’t record interview/interrogation.
Ah, yes: “There are a lot of killers, etc”. I’m *sure* I’ve heard that somewhere before…
The TrumpWorld creed is that everybody is as morally degenerate as Trump, so his moral degeneracy doesn’t matter.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, moral distinctions are possible, and between the United States and Russia, not a close call.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:28 amplus the gestapo FBI forensics lab aspires to one day achieve the competence and integrity of Theranos
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:30 amThe TrumpWorld creed is that everybody is as morally degenerate as Trump, so his moral degeneracy doesn’t matter.
idiot legacy-prez George W. Bush slaughtered hundreds of thousands of men women and children and killed and maimed thousands of our own hapless tatters!
and for what?
de nada licklicklick
That’s why President Trump stands tall and keeps his eye on the ball, determined to do the right thing for our country, The United States of America.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:33 amIf there was to be a war, the soldiers would come from those who have fought in chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine, just like ours have fought in Afghanistan Iraq and syria.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:42 amWatching them try is entertaining as hell, though.
News item: Massive Russian military operation to throw the presidential election to Donald Trump exposed in mind-boggling detail.
TrumpWorld: “You can keep your doctor!! Deeeeep Staaaaaaate!! Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!! And what about Chappaquiddick?!”
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:45 amThey did clean up the forensics lab in the 90s, kind of like with the San Francisco one about 20 years later.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:46 amactually dirty fbi butt-boy bobby mueller just presented a narrative in his silly indictment
no evidence or proof
just lalalalala
he never even established that any actual investigative work had been done by his team of hot and horny sluts
and then the sketchy indictment was disappeared to an obscure corner of the corrupt Sessions DOJ
it’s just slutty FBI propaganda you see
it’s not a serious indictment
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:49 amThey did clean up the forensics lab in the 90s
there’s no proof they don’t still play just as fast and loose as before
the FBI has no integrity you see
you can’t trust their evidence, because they’re so apt to phony it up
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 11:51 amNo, actually the GRU doesn’t do “this.” The GRU works for and gets its tasking and priority intelligence requirements from the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces. Why would they hack into the DNC servers, or even meddle in our elections? There’s no real benefit in it for the Russian Armed Forces.
I don’t enjoy being lied to, and we’ve been lied to a lot about this whole Russian meddling/collusion nonsense. Recall when Brennan, Clapper, and Comey issued an assessment saying that Putin meddled in our elections, that he did so to help Trump, and that was the assessment of the entire US intelligence community? Only one part of that statement is true; Putin meddled in our election. He meddles in a lot of elections and he has a track record. He never does it to help a particular candidate win, he does it make sure whoever does win comes out weaker. And it wasn’t the assessment of the entire USIC. It couldn’t possibly be. I was a Naval intel officer for 20 years, retiring in 2008. My job would be to study maritime developments such as foreign forces, new naval technologies, weapons systems capabilities, and at a more tactical level detect, monitor, and report maritime threats to US forces. Note: detect, monitor, and report threats to US elections isn’t part of the job.
It’s the same for the intel commands in all five armed services. So we’ve eliminated five of the sixteen members of the USIC (the Director of National Intelligence isn’t part of but in charge of the USIC). So, would the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency have any basis to form part of that consensus those three clowns were talking about? No, what started out as the Defense Mapping Agency, then morphed into the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, before becoming NGA five years before I retired simply doesn’t monitor threats to US elections. How about the National Reconnaissance Office, Treasury, DEA, Dept. of Energy? They all have intelligence sections, and none of them monitor threats to US elections, We’re not interchangeable. We don’t all look at the same problem. If we did, we’re not doing our jobs.
Neither, by the way, are the Russian intelligence services. They’re not interchangeable either, which is why if Putin wanted to sow political mayhem the last service he would use would be the GRU. Which is why I don’t believe Rosenstein. But I digress.
Essentially after you weed out all the members of the USIC that could not possibly have basis to form a valid opinion on threats to the US electoral process, you get down to the four agencies that actually signed on to the assessment. Comey for FBI, ADM Rogers for NSA, Brennan for CIA, and Clapper as DNI.
Except for Rogers they are all political hacks. The only reason they said their assessment was the consensus of the entire USIC is because it made it sound more impressive to anyone out of the loop. Again, it could not possibly have been because except for those four components of the USIC absolutely none would have had any insight into the issue and therefore no basis to either agree to or reject any proposed consensus on it. So that was pure political theater, in other words a complete falsehood, as was their assertion that Putin meddled to help Trump. That was simply to provide Clinton a baseless excuse for losing. Since I’ve been retired for ten years I’ve had time to watch Putin and how he operates. He always plays both sides. In Europe he’ll financially back both Neo-Nazi/Skinhead gangs and then Antifa/Black Bloc gangs. That way no matter who wins, half the country won’t accept the results.
In the US, he played both sides. He didn’t expect Trump to win anymore than most observers. But putting a preferred candidate over the top is never his goal.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/facebook-twitter-post-election-russian-meddling-sought-to-undermine-trump-244380
Putin simply doesn’t have a strong hand of cards to play. So he has to weaken his opponent. Ironically, it isn’t Trump who is the Putin stooge now. It’s the left that can’t stop drinking the #Resist kool-aid he whipped up for them.
There’s no need for a campaign to discredit them. They’re doing a fine job of that all on their own. But I don’t mind when someone is around to point it out.
Only a visible response will do when it comes to dealing with the PRC. I’m positive that the Obama who said “just kidding” when Assad crossed his chemical weapons red line and simply shrugged when Putin took the Crimea didn’t do anything about the PRC cyber attack. Or if he did, he probably took his SecState’s advice (Kerry was talking about Syria in this context) and made sure the response was a “limited, very targeted, very short-term effort” and “unbelievably small.” So small the CHICOMs probably didn’t even notice.
Not that I think Trump has done anything about it either. But I hope he’s addressing the cyber security weaknesses at the very least.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:12 pmFunny how that happens when half of Washington is traducing you 24 x 7, the White House is blaming you for documents they leaked themselves…in order to blame you for leaking, and you aren’t allowed to say a word to defend yourself.
How did Ken Starr’s public image hold up after a year of the same treatment?
Meanwhile, here is the real Robert Mueller:
You guys go ahead and cast your lot with the draft dodger and the Red Army that worked overtime to put him in office.
I’ll be over here with Lt. Mueller and the Stars and Stripes.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:17 pmGru is the counterpart to dia, although the spetznaz their special forces is under their control, as opposed to svr which is their overseas spy agency and fsb their domestic, a well known example of gr u was bolshakov, he was undercover here in the states as a tass or isrvesia reporter, in which capacity he,served as rfks backchannel to kruschev, but surprise surprise he misled elf about operation anadyrthe Soviet irbm in cuba.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:18 pmSteve57. Thank you for explaining so well what some seem so clueless about. Politics blinds many to what would otherwise be so obvious.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:23 pmmueller’s a cowardly and disgraced ex-marine what ended up in charge of the corrupt sleazy fbi because his lack of ethics and integrity recommended him to the job
ask yourself about these joke indictments
why did this even require a special counsel?
thgere’s not even a whisper of collusion alleged
and yet the dirty rosytwat doj didn’t trust themselves to investigate Russian military hackerz (relly sneaker ones spearing fishes)?
wha???
???
why would you need a sleazy piece of trash like bobby mueller to do your job for you?
it makes no sense unless what you’re trying to do is to do a coup all up in it and subvert american foreign policy
for that you turn to an unethical lowlife like bobby mueller
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:31 pmoopers *there’s* not even a whisper of collusion alleged i meant to say
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:35 pmNarciso, you could say the GRU includes the functions of DIA but the GRU has more capabilities such as covert HUMINT collection, SIGINT collection, etc.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:35 pmThe WaPo quotes a US Ambassador, to the UN, that doesn’t exist.
BuDuh (fc15db) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:36 pmSo when the late Michael Hastings pulled out if his keester, statements that general Stanley mccrystal, for 75th ranger, for spec ops, head of said branch in Iraq and Afghanistan, coordinator of the counterinsurgency strategy had not made, who did you believe.
Narciso (aa5b9d) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:36 pmI don’t think it’s been mentioned here, but the indictment also points out that Russia “was listening” when Trump publicly directed them to meddle in the election on his behalf.
The FAKENEWSAMAZONBEZOSPOST reports:
That is what’s called “customer awareness”.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:41 pmthe wapo’s just doing fake news
when President Trump said if you’re listening, the 30,000 emails had already been destroyed with the blessing of the hot and horny men and women of the lickspittle comey FBI
so don’t get distracted
whoever *did* hack the DNC
they did the right thing and they didn’t retain the information to use to their advantage
they publicly released the information about the DNC’s incredibly unethical and sleazy machinations in favor of Hillary over Bernie Sanders, and many other facts that are interesting to have for the historical record
it’s impossible to argue that this information – information about the wholesale corruption of a major political party – should not have been disclosed
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:47 pmBased on what evidence, netycho was a graduate student in computer science in 03, how do they know he’s gruzd more likely he’s part of the ‘humpty dumpty’ syndicate
Narciso (36a699) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:00 pmmueller has no evidence Mr. narciso
that’s why they promptly buried these indictments with the ark of the goddamned covenant
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:02 pmthis is irrefutable
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:10 pmHere’s the full quote from the news conference as reported in the NYT:
Here’s the earlier tweet that started the controversy:
He was clearly speaking satirically about the 33,000 emails deleted and bleachbit-ed from the clintonmail server not the emails DOJ says were purloined by Russia.
With as much reporting as there’s been on this story it’s pretty easy to check.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:10 pmfor example
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:14 pmi wonder what dirty slutbama would think of corrupt bobby mueller’s silly indictments of russian military computer nerds
he felt that even foreign terrorist people that murdered americans (MURDERED to where they were dead) deserved the sanctity of “sovereign immunity”
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:14 pmlet’s also remember that cowardly snivelpoop John McCain stood with slutbama and against the victims of 9/11, many of whom were killed by the abject terrorisms what were inflicted on America
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:17 pm158… but first, there must be an actual interest in anything but teh compelling narrative, lol.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:19 pm158…
remember dirty slutbama similarly joked a joke all up in it
he joked about the IRS persecuting his political opponents
AND THEN THEY DID
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:21 pmAlthouse asks a good question about the “Trump told Russia” to get the emails allegation:
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:26 pmThought I’d revisit some old posts in light of these indictments:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:30 pmCredit to Sammy for being a voice of reason:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:32 pm“I’ll be over here with Lt. Mueller and the Stars and Stripes.”
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 12:17 pm
That won’t sit well with teh faculty loungelizards.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:44 pmHere’s one with a bonus of anonymous sourcing:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:45 pmthe sluts and tarts at the corrupt FBI aren’t even a wee tiny bit curious about Seth Rich’s murder
but spearphishing holy god america that gets their hot and horny blood pumping
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:48 pmVery mad:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:50 pm@65.I am not Trump’s biggest supporter, but I’m sick of this clown show. Mueller, Strzok, Stormy, Manafort, Cohen … I wish they’d all just f-f-f-fade away.
They will.
Jaworski, Cox, Sirica, Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Colson, Chapin, Magruder, Stans, Sloan, Krogh, Kalmbach, Kleindienst, LaRue, Martha and John Mitchell, Hunt, Liddy, Barker, Sturgis, Reinecke, Barker, Martinez, Gonzalez, McCord, Porter, Strachan, Mardian, Parkinson, Thompson, Baker, Ervin, Weicker, Talmadge, Gurney, Montoya, Inouye, Wilson, Richardson, Ruckelshaus, Buzhardt, St. Clair, Woods, Butterfield, Bradlee, Ziegler, Haig, Ford… even Felt, Agnew and The Big Dick himself.
They did.
Woodward, Bernstein and Dean, less so.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:55 pmthat’s correct dirty coward bob mueller, hero ex-marine, has yet to present a shred of evidence that the russians hacked the proof of purchase off a single cereal box much less anything all up in Hillary’s pooters
these indictments are just for show – they’re not meant to ever be tested in an actual court
they’re not meant to ever be tested in an actual court
let’s put partisan aside and agree that it’s phony show justice blessed by dirty rod rosytwat’s phony joke justice department
this is what the failmerican justice system has been reduced to by Holder Lynch and Sessions
it’s a laughingstock justice system, and nobody’s laughing harder than Vladimir Putin
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:55 pmwake me up when roger stone is tried for colluding with russia to change the vote totals in michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania.
wendell (991f67) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:55 pmBirds of a feather:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:59 pm@172. It’ll be fun seeing Nixon in court! Well, the back tattoo, anyway.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 1:59 pmI remember this post and regret that I didn’t speak up at the time. Papertiger’s “source” is the 4chan white supremacy/nazi forum:
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:01 pmlol free speech in the smelly slut-queen’s london
what the hell did this loser-ass waste-of-woman accomplish with her life anyway
pathetic
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:02 pmnobody’s laughing harder than Vladimir Putin
You confuse his cackling w/t echo of automatic weapons fire, Mr. Feet!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:02 pmCthulhu… your past posts are such an embarrassment of riches, one doesn’t know where to begin. You’ve obviously put much stock in this. Go with it.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:03 pm@176. Liz can change your oil and check your fluids, Mr. Feet; she was a mechanic in WW2.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:05 pmHas the Seth Rich murder been solved, Cthulhu?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:05 pmAll unsolved murders were committed by Hillary “Angel of Death” Clinton.
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:07 pmthe automatic weapons fire echoes like the drums of moria
as yet at a distance, their steady rhythm speaks softly of doom and despair
the filth-dirty hot and horny men and women of the fbi are tearing this country apart
they’re killing america
america’s corpse
falls slowly slowly to the pavement like the lifeless body of seth rich
thank you fbi
thank you for your service
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:08 pmshe was a mechanic in WW2
kinda like her bastard ginger grandson was a soldier?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:09 pmStraw man Cthulhu
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:11 pmYes, I agree that your post @180 is a straw man.
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:18 pm@175.@180 =Haiku!= Gesundheit!
Right-wing conspiracy nuts refuse to let go of their Seth Rich fantasy
Two years ago this week, Seth Rich was on the phone with his girlfriend as he walked home from a bar in the early morning hours. His girlfriend heard other voices on Rich’s end. Then the call abruptly ended. The 27-year-old Democratic National Committee staffer was shot and killed in his Washington, D.C., neighborhood that morning. Local police investigated and determined it was a robbery gone wrong, possibly connected to a string of recent street robberies in the area.
But that’s not the story some conservatives like to tell. According to stories breathlessly reported by a wide range of right-leaning sites, Rich was a deep-state whistleblower who leaked thousands of DNC emails to WikiLeaks, then found himself in the crosshairs of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. – source, latimes.com
source- Richwikibio: ‘Rich’s parents condemned the conspiracy theorists and said that these individuals were exploiting their son’s death for political gain, and their spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists “disgusting sociopaths”. They requested a retraction and apology from Fox News after the network promoted the conspiracy theory, and sent a cease and desist letter to the investigator Fox News used. The investigator stated that he had no evidence to back up the claims which Fox News attributed to him. Fox News issued a retraction, but did not apologize or publicly explain what went wrong. In return, the Rich family filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News in March 2018, stating “The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son’s life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension.”‘
So, Colonel Cashew, are you disgusting or a sociopath… an ’embarrassment of riches’ awaits discovery… we’d put Arnold Stang on that case but he’s busy; however, Marvin Kaplan is available.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:24 pmthere’s something really really creepy and sketch about the Laundry Service Papa John’s story
would that we had journalism in CNN Jake Tapper fake news america
let’s just throw this out here
this guy was fired or possibly bailed 2 days before Laundry set up and shafted Mr. Papa, a notorious supporter of the president of the United States
coincidence you think?
jason’s always seemed like a neat guy but casey’s always come across as the living breathing epitome of douche i think, but i don’t know them personally
but now i just have so many questions
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:25 pmIs your question “why are so many Trump supporters racist?”
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:27 pmCasey Wasserman Mentioned in New Batch of Clinton Emails
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:27 pmis there a journalism on this bus???
we are need a journalism!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:28 pmAssuange was fine for the times and the post and the guardian with manning,the anonymous hack of stratfor, Snowdon, compromising operations personnel wily nilly, all of a sudden they developed scruples when it came to their favorite purveyor of rizzotto,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:30 pmBut you know people get mugged but no money or id is tajen, this did happen to ambassador meyer in London, but not in the dawn hours.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:33 pmSnowden exposed the NSA poofterboys with their eggo waffles all up in a three-way with a thai tranny hooker and an unnamed under-aged up-and-coming bmx superstar from rural Iowa
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:33 pm@183. Her Majesty had no ‘bone spurs’ Mr. Feet; neither did he.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:34 pmwhy can’t you ever be on MY side
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:35 pmLet it be, happyfeet, the Laundry Service story is the Mad Men reboot waiting to be made. I hope you are indoors…they have that dumb Pokemon tourney in Chicago this weekend.
urbanleftbehind (7cd872) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:41 pm@191
Assange was fine until he got his hands on some Russian leaks in 2010. Then he and his friends got a visit and an offer they couldn’t refuse.
Davethulhu (270006) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:42 pmoh yeah i’m lying low this weekend last weekend was many adventure
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:44 pm@195. Let’s build a bridge to no where, Mr. Feet and sip sake.
“I hate the British! You are defeated but you have no shame. You are stubborn but you have no pride. You endure but you have no courage.” – Colonel Saito [Sessue Hayakawa] ‘Bridge On The River Kwai’ 1957
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:48 pmto be a little more clear though
Jason probably would have been part of the biz dev team what won the PJ business
Casey’s pretty much credited as the douchebag what leaked the story and drove a shiv into Mr. Papa’s pancreas (ouch)
it kinda looks like Jason knew this was coming and was either not happy that his hard-won client was getting ganked like a back-alley abortion
or he just was too classy to have anything to do with this
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 2:48 pmmy papa johns here in the wood of the ravens has a delivery fee of 4.25 on eat24 which seems a little silly given the high-margin nature of the product
i has a story about pizza
domninos is many franchise i’m not sure how many the company owns
where i grew up when i was little we had dominos and the guy who owned it would talk about when he and his family arrived in our little town they were in a motel
and they couldn’t find anything to order to the motel!
so he completely changed his plans and got hooked up with dominos and did well and expanded and did well and he raised a lovely family (his daughter for sure was a really special kid i remember)
then he sold out and retired while he was still fighting fit and moved somewhere idyllic and I’ve never heard anything about them since
but i love this story cause i pretty much know the beginning middle and end
i like stories like that
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:01 pmIt’s true that it wasn’t an attack on our government, but it was an attack on our country because Putin’s agents struck one of our two major political parties in a proven attempt to influence the outcome of an election. It was an attack on our democracy. Maybe computer security by Democrats wasn’t that great but Putin’s agents were much more aggressive at going after the Democrats.
That’s false. According to the indictment:
Maybe the GOP had better security, but the indictment was pretty clear that Putin’s agents were focused on the Hillary campaign and the DNC.
There are lots of reasons to be angry at DWS, particularly because she’s demagogic and dishonest hack, but she did allow access to their servers.
Whether the FBI got what it needed from that 3rd party is unclear.
Undermining the Democratic Party and the party’s nominee sounds like big game to me. You should read the indictment, especially this part:
Putin’s agents literally leased a server that is situated on US soil.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:19 pmAs for Concord Management, the trial is going to happen. Mueller’s team probably was surprised that their attorneys showed up for a plea, and it was a tactical mistake because they should’ve anticipated that Concord would want to seek as much discovery as they could.
yes, that’s not actually examining by the agency in question, specially if that company has ties to the democratic party, through perkins and coie, and is an affiliate of the atlantic council,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:25 pmit’s cnn amuck, I guess you can figure whose bugs in this,
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/14/cnn-meltdown-russian-obama/
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:35 pmIs this just a backdoor way of calling the host of this website a troll?
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:40 pmso the path is not as clear as the indictment suggests,
https://twitter.com/climateaudit
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:43 pm12 Russian Intelligence Officers, 0 Americans Indicted for Hacking DNC, Hillary Campaign
… and every American involved is a Democrat
This is a story about stupid Democrats and the Russians that took advantage of them.
So, of course, they blame Trump and the Republicans for their own mistakes.
It’s such a shame that all of this activity occurred during the Administration of Barack Obama, who did nothing to stop it.
But really, isn’t the real reason for a special counsel to make indictments of uninvolved collateral personnel while waiting to the ‘statue of limitations’ to run out on everybody else ?
Neo (d1c681) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:53 pmNo, actually the GRU doesn’t do “this.”
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/14/2018 @ 3:55 pmThe 29-page indictment is pretty clear that the GRU really did do “this”. It’s no secret that nations seek to influence other nations’ elections, but what Putin did in the 2016 cycle was unprecedented. One of Putin’s generals created the Gerasimov Doctrine, and it was put into practice.
putin’s piddlings had no discernible effect
other than giving the hot and horny lickspittle men and women of the perverted nazi fbi a pretext to do a coup on american democracy
they’re very sick people
mueller and his overheated cougar wife and comey and his nasty pussyhat family and squirrely peter and slutty lisa and creepy-ass vegan-smelling nellie and bruce
these people are disgusting, unamerican and perverted
this is the fbi
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:11 pmBack to matters of comsequence
https://babalublog.com/2018/07/14/protestors-tortured-at-secret-prisons-in-nicaragua-report-hearing-cuban-and-venezuelan-accents/
Narciso (6e3815) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:15 pmSo, why did it take the FBI, and later Mueller, TWO FREAKING YEARS to indict?
Was it that complicated? Paint me skeptical.
rcocean (1a839e) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:46 pmirrespective of what pussified nfl homo tom brady wants you to do you can get a gob of individually wrapped plastic straws here
i did!
so at least if i have my pack and someone gives me a nasty paper straw I have choices
cause what’s a pikachu what don’t got choices?
a sad pikachu, that’s what
sad and oppressed
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:49 pmSo, why did it take the FBI, and later Mueller, TWO FREAKING YEARS to indict?
cause the summit is in a few days
and the anti-semitic cowardsluts like McCain and Mattis and Kelly are sprinkle-tinkle frightened they’re gonna lose their jew-pimp-hand toehold in syria
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 4:50 pmBackdoor? I thought I was pretty front door with my tongue in cheek suggestion that Patterico is trolling us.
Anon Y. Mous (acdecf) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:00 pmthe slicky-licky doj’s sick and perverted with unspeakable lusts and anti-americanism and weaksuck jeffy sessions is gonna be dirty with it forever
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:01 pmSo Trump was lying (again) when he said “there are a lot of killers”.
In fact, there’s only one.
That article you linked is interesting. This, in particular, makes sense in view of what has come to light:
(emphasis added)
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:04 pmsounds like Yevgenia Albats is doing her part to amplify Putin’s glorious success at precipitating an FBI-driven coup on america
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:08 pmbut coward-slut torture-turd John McCain gets some credit too
he earned that much
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:09 pmHe wanted his presence to be known,” and to “show that, no matter what, we can enter your house and do what we want.”
Good.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:12 pmHe can start w/defrosting the damn freezer. Then shampoo the rugs.
Putin wanted to send a message to us, and we need to send one in return.
A few GRU sissy-boys with their brains spilled out on the sidewalk, for instance.
Unfortunately, our traitorous president is more likely to pardon them.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:16 pmYevgenia’s talking out of her ass
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:17 pmIt’s so hard to get good help nowadays.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:19 pmlet’s be honest Yevgenia’s an irrelevant has-been, and that’s being very charitable
her website is altogether illegible and exclusively features pictures of unattractive foreign-looking people
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:23 pmsmall brain: examine the server for rootkits and activity logs
big brain: hire a partisan firm to perform a whitewashed investigation exonerating the people responsible
galaxy brain: force the appointed head of the Coast Guard to sign a document agreeing it was Putin all along
Computer Wizard (c70753) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:26 pm@208. That’s an interesting article in the New Yorker, thanks for linking it. The western concept of hybrid warfare Gerasimov argued in favor of is what I was referring to earlier when I said our adversaries are beating us at our own game. We’ve spent the last 20 years trying to figure out what we used to call Information Warfare and answering the who-what-when-where-how questions of how to wage it and doing little to practice good INFOSEC to prevent it. While they’ve spent the last 20 years trying to figure out how to turn the tables on US. It’s no surprise that our more open and technologically dependent society presents many new opportunities for mischief and exploitation by our great power adversaries.
Once upon a time the US and USSR stepped back from militarizing space with offensive weapons. We should do the same with the other great powers in cyberspace but instead we’re standing up Cyber Command to fight in a domain where we have the most to lose – bad idea.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:34 pmThere is another way!
https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/07/Democratic-Socialist-poster.jpeg?w=1160
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:37 pmActually hybrid warfare, was devised by a white Russian who emigrated to Argentina, this successor regime sees itself inthe vein of the czars.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:38 pm(
emphasistomfoolery added)Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:04 pm
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:39 pm“There are lots of reasons to be angry at DWS, particularly because she’s demagogic and dishonest hack, but she did allow access to their servers.”
Access from a firm founded by Timothy Geithner, no less!
“Our Very Important Server was hacked by foreign but we don’t actually want any of that messy ‘official chain of custody’ business, we’ll just have all the actual evidence collection and analysis done by people who won’t ask questions about anything incriminating.”
‘My server was hacked by unindictable Russians, please take this company’s word for it’ is the high-level equivalent of ‘man my car was totaled by some crackhead we can’t find, please don’t ask questions but just sign this official police report for the insurance money.’
Computer Wizard (9b99c6) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:40 pmThe closing paragraph in that New Yorker article is particularly interesting:
Over the last 100 years Russia’s objective has been the same. Only the methods have changed.
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:41 pmhi Mr. Wizard just wanted to say you add value and i’m enjoying all your comment
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:42 pmRussia not attacking midterms on same ‘scale or scope’ as in 2016, Nielsen says
she’s just begging for more spit huh
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:45 pmThey were trying to blame Lopez obradors win on the russians:
https://mobile.twitter.com/realmattcouch/status/924137387520937984?lang=en
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 5:49 pmCertainly true.
We have to make the costs of causing trouble for us higher than they can afford to pay. Reagan understood this clearly and got results by practicing it assiduously.
“No better friend, no worse enemy” should be our creed.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:11 pmand just like that we agree!
crazy (5c5b07) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:14 pmslutbama was loads more flexible after the election
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:14 pmObama let putin take half of Ukraine, probably advance against Azerbaijan if left to his own devices, hold Syria because he needed that iran deal, let Libya and Egypt fall to the Islamist, Algeria might have been next.
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:22 pmAnother interesting note the grand jury did not endorse this indictment
https://mobile.twitter.com/Surabees/status/1018239026183237633
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:38 pmobama was a pussy that hated jews and america
that was a choice other people made not me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:45 pm“Putin wanted to send a message to us, and we need to send one in return.
A few GRU sissy-boys with their brains spilled out on the sidewalk, for instance.
Unfortunately, our traitorous president is more likely to pardon them.”
Obama did precisely jack-all when Chinese people working for the Chinese government stole the identities of literally everyone who worked for FedGov, but a few Russians (yes, Russian intelligence, *not* any of the actually tech-savvy, insider history, extremist friendly, and rightfully aggrieved Berniebros whose anger at Hillary literally buying out the DNC TOTALLY ISN’T A MOTIVE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT and who no one in the DNC is interested in placating for the next election) MAY have stopped Hillary’s campaign from being able to lie convincingly about how above-board their press coverage was.
We should totally demand BLOOD IN THE STREETS that we wouldn’t demand from the actual only remaining declared Communist superpower to sate someone who can’t distinguish between the strategic reach and relative threat of the USSR and the reach of the Russian Federation.
It’s almost like liberals only *hate with a bloodthirsty hate* countries and demand their invasion when they cease to be Communist, much like they hate on Hungary and Poland now.
Computer Wizard (e6f6da) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:54 pmCNN Jake Tapper fake news hated slut-england when they did brexit all up in it but now that they have a baby-balloon they love them again
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 6:59 pmDon’t worry he’ll hate it again, presumably these gru officials all work in Moscow, you can go after some of them, bur consider how far putin will punch back, leaving out litvinenko, he sent to a team to doha to cap yandarbichev a prickly Chechen exile, they threw two grenades under his jeep, no messing with makarovs. Another troublesome Chechen who had a falling out, head of the the zapad militia got iced in the uae
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:08 pmwhy do we have to keep looking at geriatric shrivel-titted cryptkeeper dianne feinstein
it’s just getting stupid
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:12 pmseriously she’s scaring the children
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:13 pmBecause she is what passes for sand in california.
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:14 pmWhy would anyone in the US care about the fate of people from the Muslim country with a lifetime achievement award in terrorist massacre casualties per capita, it’s almost as bad as caring about the privacy of a party whose staff has a world record for suspicious deaths during internal party power struggles.
Computer Wizard (daa6c0) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:16 pmsand in my nae nae maybe
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:18 pmI just think she’s old, but that photo on the right could be “the cool kids version of Ted Cruz”.
urbanleftbehind (7cd872) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:20 pmSane, which country is That, now I don’t have the answer to Afghanistan or Iraq or syeia.
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:21 pmBut deleon is certifiable and if memory serves, has a collateral #metoo problem
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:24 pmDid he get sloppy thousandths on the same Telemundo reporter chick as Villar, Nunez, et al
urbanleftbehind (7cd872) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:44 pmI said collateral
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article192859954.html
narciso (d1f714) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:49 pmnational soros radio coverage of mueller’s joke indictments is genuinely bizarre
national soros radio is trying to make like nobody notices that “the hackers” did like 5,000 times more journalism on the 2016 election than national soros radio even contemplated doing
like noted counterintelligence analyst Kenny Loggins once said: “Jake Tapper is full of poop and he does fake news all up in it.”
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:52 pmyou can picture just NPR touching herself as she strokes out these final grafs
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:54 pmugh
*just picture* i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:55 pmI think the theme from caddyshack is more on point, apropos of nothing that somewhat brusque animated series archers protagonist is a perennial spy with two big interests, but Reynolds movies and Kenny Higgins songs.
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:56 pmWell also copious amounts of alcohol and women, but that’s part of the job description
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 7:58 pmSo we should follow Obama’s example?
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:11 pmslutbama, just like the filthy corrupt bush family and the clinton criminal cartel, he had his own agenda that had nothing to do with advancing America’s interests
what President Trump is doing is very new
so far so good
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:14 pmI may have nailed it. Something was very weird about the Rosenstein press conference as well as the way the indictment is written. It reeks of politics.
Mark Tapscott opines that the purpose of the indictment is set the predicate for Mueller’s case that the Trump campaign knew about the Russian plan to steal documents from the DNCC/Clinton campaign servers/computers and then conduct staged releases of the those documents (as specified on the opening page of the indictment). Mueller is going to argue that Trump and his campaign knew about the staged releases. And he’ll call that “collusion.”
Mueller and his deputy Weissman are very creative writers. Weissman is a very creative writer. Back when he was either second in command or headed the Enron Task Force he convinced a judge to adopt his rewrite of an obstruction of justice statute so it no longer required consent. All he had to prove was that Arthur Anderson destroyed documents, and he helpfully convinced the judge to rewrite the jury instruction. And, boom! He destroyed accounting firm Arthur Anderson and put eighty thousand people out of work. The Supreme Court reversed him nine to nothing since the law really did require the prosecutor to prove that Arthur Anderson destroyed the documents with the intent to obstruct justice, something he could have never done he wouldn’t have gotten the win, but it was too late. You can’t bring a company back form the dead.
Since there is no such crime as collusion he has a completely blank canvas here. He and Mueller can make anything up they like. Which reading the indictment is what I think they did with that piece of work.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:17 pmbut everyone knows mueller’s riding dirty
he’s unadulterated fbi trash to his very core
bobby mueller, who enjoys boisterous strap-on action from his overheated cougar wife, is cut from the same cloth as horny horny Lisa’s squirmy-squirrely pimp-daddy Peter
these people are not normal Americans
they’re noticeably perverted
and ultimately that will undercut his effectiveness
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:27 pm*his rewrite of an obstruction of justice statute so it no longer required consent.
What was I thinking? That would be “no longer require intent.”
I need to add Tapscott expects Mueller’s case for “collusion” to revolve around the contention that not only did Trump know about the staged releases he planned his campaign strategy around them. That would leave the Democrats with something to work with r.e. Trump-Russian since the whole goal was not to try to make a criminal case but instead a political case for impeachment.
It seems to tie things up as well as anything I can think of.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:28 pmdirty fbi clown-perv jim comey already said he never doubted the criminal pig-woman was going to win
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:31 pmmulder and scully ran a child exploitation ring in baltimore btw (sexual one)
when’s CNN Jake Tapper fake news gonna start working on that story
don’t hold your breath (good advise)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:33 pmpampered loser
wow that’s a stunning fail
maybe his real dad is actually Will Smith and he’s just adopted?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/14/2018 @ 8:41 pmThis story still makes me chuckle:
On June 6, 1994, I was working at CERN in Geneva, and the TV was on in the control room of my experiment (which was actually just across the border, inside France), where a dozen or so European colleagues and I were on duty.
Liz was giving a live speech on TV – in French – as part of the ceremony in Normandy commemorating the 50th anniversary of D-Day.
One of my older French colleagues/friends, who was quite patriotic/nationalistic (not in the nasty, Le Pen way – he was a lefty socialist – but he thought La France, and being French, were the greatest things since unsliced bread) was watching the queen give her speech.
He stood there for a while, watching intently and finally, and almost grudgingly, he began slowly nodding his head and remarked, “You know…the Queen … she speaks…very good French.” He was genuinely impressed, and coming from him, it was an uncharacteristically generous compliment.
I couldn’t resist poking fun, so without hesitation I asked, in a sort of feigned, naive American way: “Well, technically she’s the Queen of France too, isn’t she?”
At that moment a couple things happened simultaneously. My friend, and all the other Frenchmen in the room, let out an involuntary, visceral groan. And the two or three Brits off working in the opposite corner tried unsuccessfully to stifle their laughter…
Good times.
Dave (445e97) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:37 pmLanguage barriers can produce such unmixed truths!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=IUN36UG8JaQ
Computer Wizard (3074c8) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:54 pmThey don’t note the real threat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/13/court-orders-bin-laden-bodyguard-returned-germany/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 9:56 pm“The demonstration of this kind of eye-watering granularity makes it fascinating to imagine the kind of information the U.S. intelligence community asked Mueller to conceal from this indictment to protect its capabilities.
And to imagine what else Mueller might have up his sleeve.”
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON’T MOCK AND DERIDE THE “SORKIN LECTURE” PERSONA AND TV CULTURE IN GENERAL, YOU LET THESE BUREAUCRATS GET AWAY WITH PLAY-ACTING AS THEIR FAVORITE ‘HOUSE OF CARDS’ MARTY STU AND EVERY PRESS RELEASE BECOMES A J.J. ABRAMS-STYLE ‘MYSTERY BOX’ NOTHINGBURGER MEANT TO START THE MOST SPECULATION FOR THE LEAST EFFORT. POLITICS IS OFFICIALLY DOWNSTREAM OF TV WRITING CULTURE AND TRUMP ISN’T EVEN THE WORST EXAMPLE OF IT!
Computer Wizard (8100b5) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:01 pmYou can make up anything, ask Ronnie earl, or John Chisholm or Brenda Murray who shepherds the Stevens fraudulent inductment.
Narciso (cc9fa9) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:06 pmTaking the TV writer analogy further:
Robert Mueller is essentially the DC version of Kathleen Kennedy: a supposed VETERAN INSIDER handed over a hot, scandalous property that had great interest on all sides of the aisle, given carte blanche to take it in whatever direction he wanted it, ends up disappointing by releasing an even more formulaic and groan-inducing result than in prior years (using absolutely bare minimum effort) than anyone even expected, didn’t improve his results at all no matter how many extra lawyers he ended up hiring and firing, and most of the people defending him with anything resembling fervor online are either bots or utter partisan hacks who hate the people he’s against far more than they like the principles he’s for.
It’s like poetry, it rhymes.
Computer Wizard (91c2dc) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:19 pm@266. Meh. Recall watching those festivities on CSPAN that year; Liz did a bit of a happy jig when the USAF Band struck up Glenn Miller’s ‘In The Mood’ too. She probably cut a rug or two in her day. As for CERN, consider yourself lucky you were at work in Switzerland and not Texas, where it was originally planned to go.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/14/2018 @ 10:40 pmHey lawyers, what’s up? This guy is trying to criminally trespass people from the comments of his YouTube channel. Also, he doesn’t seem to like the police but he’s basically threatening to call them on trolls. Funny stuff: Chicago Police Shoot Innocent Man In The Back… Updates…
Pinandpuller (3e235f) — 7/15/2018 @ 2:36 amNo he’s more like commander krennic from rogue one:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/07/the_donald_does_europe.html
Narciso (5f99e8) — 7/15/2018 @ 5:54 amI was 2 miles straight South of that hootenanny (with my daughter at my nieces birthday party) at the old family homestead and had I not been browsing my phone, would have likely drive into it not rerouted to Stony Island Ave. What’s weird is that they lot of non-Bs sort of join in the denouncing.
urbanleftbehind (7cd872) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:01 amKrennic’s actor could do a lot of pols, an older Gorsuch and Pete Wilson come to mind.
urbanleftbehind (7cd872) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:04 amI finally watched the interaction between Bad Haircut Guy and Smirkboy. It was clear the Democrats had a plan to object and run out the clock. I guess they were worried how their new hero would look if he had to answer some tough questions.
Patterico (9622fb) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:14 am“The Obama left couldn’t recognize the threat Russia posed as it attacked American systems, helped America’s enemies build nukes, massacred civilians, and stole countries.
The Obama left did however recognize the threat Russia posed when it helped cost the Obama left an election.”
—- Actually Quite a Dignified M’Fin Pickle
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:27 am225 and 230, thanks crazy.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/15/2018 @ 9:08 amOf course that’s what they have been doing for 30 years, since Iran contra.
I chose krennic because he is a,dutiful bureaucrat who doesn’t care how monstrous his project is, it must be completed.
Narciso (a12b20) — 7/15/2018 @ 9:15 amAs much as I generally support law enforcement, the actions and behavior of the FBI and the Justice Department just sicken me. I wanted to reach through my TV and smack the smirk off Strozk’s face; and as for Rosenstein’s call for putting partisanship aside, yes, it’s a nice idea, if I could believe anything that comes out of the FBI or the Department of Justice. But given Rosenstein’s statements, the timing of these indictments (which we all know aren’t going to to anywhere), his request for federal prosecutors to insert themselves into Judge Kavanugh’s confirmation, I just don’t trust any of them, and that’s a sad comment about the state of federal law enforcement in this country.
We don’t have to worry about Putin–we’re killing ourselves from the outside in.
Rochf (877dba) — 7/15/2018 @ 10:19 amYou can’t live with the thought that an FBI agent might hold political views different from yours?
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:07 pmhe’s not an fbi agent more he’s a disgraced former fbi agent
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:10 pmoops *anymore* is what that should say
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:11 pmPerhaps, but what exactly was the point of the GOP’s televised orgy of demagogery, except to (per the standard playbook) obfuscate Trump’s moral degeneracy by trying to drag the rest of world down to his level?
Fact-finding had nothing to do with that circus. Trey Gowdy and Bad Haircut Guy were putting on a show for the cameras, nothing more. Strzok clearly understood this, and I don’t fault him for being unable to keep a straight face as they made fools of themselves.
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:18 pmtrey gowdy’s a turd what’s still fresh n wet from his years at justice and guess what
he has his own agenda
just like all the other doj turds
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:26 pmStrzok’s demeanor frankly fits my mental image of how a hypothetical hearing in which Patterico was being verbally assailed by a bunch of less intelligent democratic congressmen determined to make him look bad, and failing, might transpire.
(No moral comparison or equivalence is implied, just that they are both smart guys who get testy when falsely accused by morons…)
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:29 pmConsider notes Trulock it was his overzealousness that sank the wen ho Lee case
Narciso (1a1ce8) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:34 pmShockingly Mr Montagu, you’re at least two weeks behind:
Narciso (1a1ce8) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:45 pmhttps://www.americanthinker.com/the-forgotten-2:the-case-of-the-forgotten-russians
lots to unpack here
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:50 pmNo, our host is an honorable man, he wouldn’t fix or manufacture evidence, engage in ex parte communications with a judge
Narciso (1a1ce8) — 7/15/2018 @ 4:59 pmIt was inbred chickens coming home to roost. The Hohenzolerns, the Hapsburgs, the Romanovs, the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas (Windsor).
The poor French had the best warm water ports and the Germans also stood to get their overseas colonies. The Turks were smarting after the horrible ethnic cleansing they had just suffered in the Balkans, and on top of that everybody wanted their oil for their navies.
Or maybe it was the International Zionist Conspiracy to bring down the Russian Empire. It’s hard to say.
nk (dbc370) — 7/15/2018 @ 5:23 pmSorry, wrong thread.
nk (dbc370) — 7/15/2018 @ 5:24 pmyes it would have happened eventually, if not in the Balkans, north Africa, perhaps in china, where the factions were side by side,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 5:35 pmThe Stable Genius, on whether he would ask Putin to hand over the indicted Russians:
LOLOLOLOL
You’d think with modern technology they could get him a tape-delayed Fox & Friends feed over there in Europe, so he wouldn’t be forced to come up with ideas like this on his own!
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:08 pmi’m gonna jump out there and bet putin decides not to extradite
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:10 pmThat would be my guess too. 😂
nk (dbc370) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:18 pmWell there was the Much more justifiable extradition to Tunisia which the German courts scotched.
Narciso (25d2fa) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:23 pm“If you want to avoid a fight, you must extradite!”
felipe (023cc9) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:24 pmfelipe (023cc9) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:24 pm
That is my guess as to what Trump will be reported as saying to Putin about the matter.
felipe (023cc9) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:25 pmWhich means Putin stands behind his miltary’s acts of war on the United States, and we should – at a minimum – break off diplomatic relations immediately.
It would have been better, of course, if the Dotard-in-Chief hadn’t gone out of his way to insult all our (former) allies a week ago…
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:32 pmWe’re not going to let a special counsel bring us into a state of war with a nuclear power with rubber-stamp grand jury “ham sandwich” indictments.
nk (dbc370) — 7/15/2018 @ 6:46 pmSpecially with this prologue:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/13/dangerous-pseudo-science-in-cyber-security/?cn-reloaded=1
Narciso (deb479) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:02 pmOn Friday, it became the official legal position of the people of the United States, through their government, that these crimes were committed as described in the indictments. In that regard, Mueller’s indictment is as authoritative as the report from a military base subjected to enemy attack.
We’re already in a state of war, but the Russians are the only ones fighting. And they’re doing so risk-free, at the moment.
Dave (445e97) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:13 pmThe earlier indictments were of the “ham sandwich”, the latest ones are of 12 bowls of borscht.
I wonder what’s for dessert?
5 guys running a server farm in Vladivostok?
I wonder if a couple of the indictments will turn out to be of people who are janitors or better yet, dead for years
steveg (a9dcab) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:17 pmSilly juche dave, there is more likely a state of war with cuba that murdered four Americans 22 years ago.
Narciso (deb479) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:19 pmDave
That “reset” button Hillary gifted to Putin must have had “kick me” written on it.
Those Obama geniuses really knocked it out of the park in their first year. Cash for Clunkers on the economic side, some lame misspelled “reset” button and “soft power” on the international diplomacy side.
steveg (a9dcab) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:26 pmWhy not just give Putin a Stalin bobblehead and a complete collection of Solzhenitsyn’s works
Now with the kingdom there might be more of an open question, since certain state employees did enable the hijackers
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:32 pmI really would like to know if Mueller and his team are billing the taxpayers by the hour, at K Street rates, for this clown show.
nk (dbc370) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:36 pm“You can’t live with the thought that an FBI agent might hold political views different from yours?”
His views aren’t actually all that different, someone who says ‘there’s no there there’ about Trump/Russia has an informed political opinion not all that dissimilar from mine.
Someone who drops what their logical mind told them at the beginning and then turns into a parody of an Aaron Sorkin character because his side piece made googly eyes at him and other people promised loadsa money for getting the guy they hate By Any Means Necessary? Nah, fry him.
“I wonder if a couple of the indictments will turn out to be of people who are janitors or better yet, dead for years”
That’s the best-case scenario, we’ve already seen what the SC does (turn tail and run) when the Russians they subpoena actually show up in court.
“Silly juche dave, there is more likely a state of war with cuba that murdered four Americans 22 years ago.”
They’re already writing private property into the new Cuban constitution! Trump not only killed Castro with his mind-rays but dispelled the ghost of Marx from that benighted isle! Of course, now that they’re less avowedly Communist, this means that liberals and #Resist-urds are now much more likely in the near future to talk about CUBAN COLLUSION and make dark and maliciously unspecified allusions to low-information voters about how the Cuban Missile Crisis That Totally Happened Like Just Yesterday means We Have Always Been At War With Cuba.
Computer Wizard (03a9bd) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:37 pmNo sadly that’s not entirely so, little bro Raul has been shutting down paladares (sole proprietor restaurants), he
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:43 pmhas been aiding the suppression in Venezuela and Nicaragua.
They aren’t quite at north Korean standards but pretty close,
https://babalublog.com/2018/07/15/glorious-socialism-average-cuban-worker-today-earns-40-times-less-than-his-grandfather/
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:52 pmThe basis for the “Thinker” piece was a 6/22 DDID article, using anonymous sources (“people familiar with”). The whole reason for Concord to go to court was to get classified intel during discovery and pass it on to Putin, and they’re still arguing about it.
Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:56 pmNo i wee going by the June 30th post piece, now has there been any more news that I should be privy to.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 7:58 pmFurther, dubelier their lead fatty spent eight years in the sdny before hanging out a shingle.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:00 pmnk, a significant fraction of Mueller’s people are career employees temporarily assigned to him, who the government would be paying regardless.
Mueller’s annual budget is something like $7M. While it’s troubling to think of how many badly needed dining room sets, fountain pens, shopping junkets and rounds of golf Trump and his cabinet will have to make due without, that number doesn’t look very inflated to me.
Dave (5958e0) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:13 pmYes one defended the fellow who mishandled Hillary’s servers one burnt at this andersen to the ground, (reversed on appeal, but the damage was done) others have been admonished for prosecutorial overreach, all have toes to hillary
Narciso (b2eb1c) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:18 pmMueller’s annual budget is something like $7M.
that might be quarterly
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:22 pmbut that was at the very beginning
his witch hunt has bloated fantastically since then
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:22 pmDon’t tell anyone, they are building the triskelion on Roosevelt island.
Yes from Roswell to kill list I followed Mrs heigls but doubt was a,final steaw.
Narciso (b2eb1c) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:27 pmAs of the end of March, he had spent a total of $17M. That includes people assigned to him who the government would be paying regardless.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-russia-investigation-cost-robert-mueller-2018-5
There is a full report itemizing all expenses at the link.
Dave (5958e0) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:31 pmso in the first 10 months they spend 16.8 mil
which would be a burn rate of 5.1 a quarter
but we also know he’s added a lot of staff since then, and that his witch hunt, with the blessing of corrupt rod rosytwat, has branched out into increasingly inane areas
what our fbi dick-lick friend has *not* done is shown a shred of evidence that there was any collusion with the russians, so none of the money dirty coward bob mueller has spent has actually been on point
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:39 pmSasse: Trump shouldn’t dignify Putin with Helsinki summit
does harvardtrash ben sasse ever tire of the smell of his own farts
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:43 pmThe thing is, they haven’t done any new work since strzok fusion cell pipeline into the if a, the Flynn matter cane strzok, the manafort matter apparently came from the ap
Narciso (b2eb1c) — 7/15/2018 @ 8:47 pm