NRA Ad: Fight This Violence Of Lies With The Clenched Fist Of Truth
[guest post by Dana]
Hoo boy. A bit of hysteria today over the posting of an National Rifle Association (NRA) ad on the organization’s new Facebook page. The ad features conservative commentator Dana Loesch:
They use their media to assassinate real news. They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler. They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again. And then they use their ex-president to endorse the resistance.
All to make them march, make them protest, make them scream racism and sexism and xenophobia and homophobia. To smash windows, burn cars, shut down interstates and airports, bully and terrorize the law-abiding — until the only option left is for the police to do their jobs and stop the madness.
And when that happens, they’ll use it as an excuse for their outrage. The only way we stop this, the only way we save our country and our freedom, is to fight this violence of lies with the clenched fist of truth. I’m the National Rifle Association of America, and I’m freedom’s safest place.
Looking into what is upsetting people about the ad so much – so much that the Women’s March is demanding the NRA apologize – I found a few things: There is anger that the NRA remained silent about the shooting death of Philando Castile, who was legally carrying; that using the term “clenched fist of truth” is an “open call to violence”; that it is “barely a whisper shy of a call for full civil war,” as well as the ad being a call to Americans “to arm themselves to fight liberals. Violence is coming.” And there is even a question of whether the ad is anti-Semitic.
Loesch reminds critics of where that “clenched fist” originated:
It is entirely possible to heartily support the Second Amendment, condemn equally the violence coming from the far-left and the far-right, dislike guns, and have a queasy feeling about the NRA, this ad, and seeing term “incite” be indiscriminately used when someone on either side demands that their cause be seen as the righteous one.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (023079) — 6/29/2017 @ 4:57 pm#loveher
who knew she had such an artistic soul
happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:01 pmDana’s video is effective end of story
happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:04 pmHer penance for NT-ism and Rubio support is now served.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:11 pmIf any NRA spokesperson was going to make the Left’s head explode, it would be an attractive, intelligent, educated woman.
nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:32 pmAnd no matter how I feel about Philando Castille’s murder, ain’t no way I’d align myself with BLM. Good on NRA for not doing that, either. First we lock up the thugs, then disarm and debadge the trigger-happy cops.
nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:34 pmBeet-sell-juice! Beet-sell-juice! Beet-sell-juice! =poof=
DCSCA (797bc0) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:41 pmIn other “fighting crime” news, while the chatterers were soiling their knickers over a tweet, the Congress passed Kate’s Law.
Now citizens on Long Island and elsewhere have hope against MS-13 (motto: “Kill, Rape, Control“) and other Dem voting blocs.
harkin (ef2377) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:50 pmyes yes Mr. harkin
i am SO EFFING GLAD tonight i’m not an illegal immigrant
i really think things are looking up for me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/29/2017 @ 5:54 pmKates’ Lives Matter! When I think that it took 241 years for this country to pass a law against murdering young women in parks ….
nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:01 pmif pervy Mitt “supervised visitation only” Romney let his slicked up lil boytoy Paul Ryan pass a for reals law
it must be pretty darn-tootin neato
happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:07 pmDana L. was just on Tucker Carlson’s show and – as usual – was an eloquent spokesperson for the need to push back against this mindless leftwing hate and violence. She also said this video had been created and uploaded in April and that this was a concerted, organized effort to discredit any attempts at tamping down the leftwing hatred and violence.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:10 pmNarciso linked this in the other thread
kishnevi (1c16da) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:51 pmhttp://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=370440
Loesch and the NRA came out with this ad 2 days before a psycho leftist (BIRM) shot and tried to assassinate several Republican members of Congress.
It was prophetic and accurate.
NJRob (1ca9bb) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:52 pmShe also said this video had been created and uploaded in April and that this was a concerted, organized effort to discredit any attempts at tamping down the leftwing hatred and violence.
Could you expand on that. Who is trying to discredit effortd to “tamp down the violence”?
kishnevi (1c16da) — 6/29/2017 @ 6:54 pmEither darn way, after that video, Mr. Loesch will be the inspiration for another kind of clenched fist 😍
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:06 pmThe show replays in 45 minutes, kishnevi.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:14 pmThanks. But I think I figured it out…..
kishnevi (1c16da) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:15 pmUnrelated moment of sanity:
narciso (d1f714) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:30 pmhttp://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article158965184.html
This gives some insight into what Loesch was talking about, kishnevi… https://twitter.com/dloesch?lang=en
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:32 pmCould be worse, could be an attack from the inside…….
“New York Times staffers held a walkout on Thursday afternoon to protest pending job cuts expected to affect the newspaper’s copy editing staff.
Protesters shouted slogans including “They say cut back, we say fight back,” and “No editors, no peace” as they marched around the New York Times building in Midtown Manhattan. The union that represents the paper’s news staff estimated the number of demonstrators at 450.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/new-york-times-staffers-stage-walkout-to-protest-job-cuts-1498769817
They really are beginning to devour their own.
harkin (ef2377) — 6/29/2017 @ 7:51 pmGood ad. Not as effective as “Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon” or “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want them? NOW!”. But it’s a good start on sloganeering.
Rev.Hoagie® (630eca) — 6/29/2017 @ 8:11 pm“Susan B. Anthony did not make women equal; Samuel Colt did.”
nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2017 @ 8:17 pm“A Diamondback is a girl’s best friend.”
nk (dbc370) — 6/29/2017 @ 8:21 pmWe should not conflate actual violence with heated rhetoric.
The term “the violence of lies” is dumb and it will be thrown back in our faces — have libtards ever admitted that we’re not lying about something? It’s an article of faith that we are always lying.
Antifa logic is: Republicans are committing violence just by standing in the street waving American flags, so it’s okay to throw bricks. The term “the violence of lies” fits right in with Antifa logic.
Daryl Herbert (7be116) — 6/29/2017 @ 8:44 pmThe nra was founded by for union soldier. I know the quantrill raiders are the ones who come better in the spaghetti westerns, and union men like lee van kleef add the criminals
narciso (d1f714) — 6/29/2017 @ 8:52 pmI’m a huge fan of Dana. one of the many former Breitbart folks who are just awesome, and truly the ones carrying his torch, much like Patterico himself is.
Loesch was right all along, and in particular on the stuff Trump’s fans were flipping out on Rubio for: immigration. Trump has not followed through at all, and Rubio would have been better.
as a deranged Trump fan, a fan of an actual pervert who brags about groping women’s private parts without their consent because they won’t complain due to his fame and power, Mitt Romney is not in any way a pervert. Mitt Romney is also not responsible for Trump’s failure to lead a team. Trump is not a leader. He just can’t get things done, which is why nothing is getting done. He can sign EOs all day, but the big bold promises of legislation will never happen without a leader. Blaming this on Mitt Romney is bizarre when Trump made such a big show of not including Romney in his administration.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 6/29/2017 @ 9:41 pmI love President Trump
happyfeet (28a91b) — 6/29/2017 @ 10:10 pmDoes anyone have an example of a school teaching children that Trump is another Hitler?
Eve (0bff6d) — 6/29/2017 @ 10:16 pmNo one was in doubt that you love that politician.
Apparently it happened in a public school in NY state. However, I think there are plenty of valid reasons to compare Trump to a dictator. The way he obstructed justice, his ‘fake news’ shtick, his threat to sic the IRS on his critics, his praise of dictators massacring citizens who protested at Tienanmen square… it seems like an education would be incomplete without this sort of analysis.
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Pinandpuller (0cba72) — 6/30/2017 @ 12:21 am@27 Dustin
Re “groping women.”
It’s time for another round of:
Brigham Young or Donald Trump?!
Pinandpuller (0cba72) — 6/30/2017 @ 12:39 amTrump Seer Stones are the best seer stones you can ever buy!
Pinandpuller (0cba72) — 6/30/2017 @ 12:47 amRubio could never handle what President Trump is dealing with. Cowardly Rubio looks right at home with the gang of eight misfits.
mg (31009b) — 6/30/2017 @ 2:23 amPresident Rubio – lmmfao.
Romney is a quitter. He could have beaten obama, but had no idea how to fight. They called him the cruelest man in the world who would put blacks back in chains. Not a single fight back from mittens. He would have led us to the sewer in a heartbeat. Trump fights, he is a warrior and I’ll back him. Finally a leader who isn’t going to take it. USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
mg (31009b) — 6/30/2017 @ 3:00 am38. Unfortunately, I think our President may have the same blind spot as John Dillinger (the Irish reporter incident of this week and the bums rush over the montenegran President toward a female head of stste).
urbanleftbehind (97cb74) — 6/30/2017 @ 5:10 amI find katryona Perry cute, but among their delegation
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/29/grassley-demands-answers-on-acting-fbi-directors-apparent-conflicts-of-interest
narciso (d1f714) — 6/30/2017 @ 5:35 amThis is horrifying!”
“What?”
“This NRA ad. Look!”
“I see leftists committing violence.”
“Exactly! Isn’t the NRA terrible??”
h/t Jay Caruso
harkin (536957) — 6/30/2017 @ 6:51 am@Dustin,
Until an American President starts disappearing people in the middle of the night, the comparisons to that revolting Austrian really need to stop. Not because Trump(or before him, Bush) is a wonderful person, but because comparing lesser evils to the Holocaust is despicable. The Left is entirely too fond of saying “a” (small thing) is just as bad as “A”, and it is a deadly insult to the victims of “A”. No, sweethearts, college girls who get drunk at a frat party and wake up regretting sex are NOT the same as women who were violently beated and raped. No, darlings, anti-Trump protesters who were arrested for attacking people and damaging property are NOT the same as Jews who were marched into ‘showers’ and gassed to death.
The Left makes themselves revolting by these false equivalencies.
No, Trump has NOT initiated a NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES. He has not promulgated a Final Solution. He has not hung political opponents,with piano wire. He has not plunged the world into a war costing millions of dead. And talking as if he did does not diminish him. It diminishes both his opponents and any real evil he is doing. It is utter bullshit and it needs to stop.
C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37) — 6/30/2017 @ 7:45 am41 – holy crap the only thing left is a forum chalk outline.
harkin (ef2377) — 6/30/2017 @ 8:44 amIn my perfect nation, brown-nosing would be a capital offense.
Colonel Haiku (ef4f0e) — 6/30/2017 @ 9:02 amWell, Sasse is good for something, its a great 36 hours for Trump, but the NTs are getting theirs in too. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-endorses-repeal-first-strategy-if-health-care-deal-not-n778501
Its a sad day when I eschew CNN and ABC, but find Fox’s video system wanting, thus pushing me to cite Joe and Mika’s house.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 6/30/2017 @ 9:33 amTwitter doesn’t come with a laugh track
https://mobile.twitter.com/EricHolder/status/880686761848045570
narciso (d1f714) — 6/30/2017 @ 10:29 amWhy are the leftwing bastions such cesspools?
https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/democrat_urban_monopolies_11-30-15.png
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/30/2017 @ 2:05 pmCol. 42-
mg (31009b) — 6/30/2017 @ 2:29 pmI’m stealing that line.
The only proper rejoinder;
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/06/30/no-dana-loesch-isnt-a-racist-white-supremacist-calling-for-civil-war-are-you-people-high-n2348842
narciso (d1f714) — 6/30/2017 @ 6:05 pmThese people are not serious-minded people. How in the Hell did Chicago arrive at a this juncture?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449153/chicago-theater-critic-shunned-racial-honesty
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/30/2017 @ 6:34 pmThe working class generally patriotic cohort were replaced with this nihilist clique of bureaucrats and anarchists
narciso (d1f714) — 6/30/2017 @ 6:37 pmDefending oneself and family against liberal violence will be the norm after rino republicans crap their pants when the msm says everything is their fault. Republicans really don’t understand the silent majority. Rinos will be safe in their gated communities with tax-payer funded protection. Just don’t step out of your bubble, fellas.
mg (31009b) — 7/1/2017 @ 2:35 amI never compared Trump to Hitler, so most of your comment doesn’t make any sense at all. For someone complaining about false equivalencies you sure were quick to make an egregious one.
I have pointed out that Trump praised dictatorships abusing free speech, and himself has threatened folks with the IRS and has a very hostile take on critical news, and it’s wise to discuss this.
You seem to be saying that until Trump is literally Hitler, it is wrong to compare his views to dictatorships. You are foolish. It’s naive to believe ‘it’ could never happen here. It being a President crossing the line and breaking the great experiment that is our free country. If it doesn’t happen, it will not be thanks to folks who insisted we never talk about it, warn about the problems, and hold politicians to standards. Like it or not, Trump has absolutely praised the Tienanmen Square massacre, and it is completely reasonable to warn people about this.
You Trump fans never stop bashing the bloggers who produce a lot of interesting stuff, and I like to let them know their work is valued. You want to make this something bad because you are a small person. You’re still here, year after year, trolling and being nasty, when you are lying about writing racist sockpuppet comments.
Oh, but you’re a coward. Always talking about me passive aggressively, never actually saying what you mean to say because it’s so easy to link to when the mods pointed out you lied about leaving sockpuppet racist remarks. You apologized, but then ramped up the hate. I trust a man who apologizes in bad faith a lot less than a man who just refuses to accept he did wrong. You have no self respect.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:44 amTrump praising mass murder, encouraging a Russian dictator to be more violent, explaining what kind of leader he wishes to be.
Of course Trump has been on the defense from day one, after losing the popular vote to the awful democratic candidate by millions. I believe the constant challenging of the legitimacy of any of his actions has made him behave like a child, screeching away on twitter instead of being able to do much to harm our freedom. I cheer the free press and hope Trump is unable to follow through on the comments I quoted above.
Those praising the NRA ad, do you understand the second amendment? It is a protection from the addiction of power, keeping our nation free. Those saying the terrible events in other countries could never happen here are truly naive. They don’t happen here because we don’t let them.
Trump will always be on watch for his willingness to show what he considers strong leadership, the way China did when their tanks shut down what they (and Trump) called a ‘riot’.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:49 amCSP, I have a comment in moderation, but wanted to note that I did not actually compare Trump to Hitler, and your response is totally unjustified by what I said. Trump has done many things that justify comparing him to dictators, such as the comment I quoted above where he praised some of the worst things dictators have done to their subjects.
Your argument that Trump is not yet literally Hitler is the weakest defense conceivable and it impresses no one but the most hacktastic Trump fan.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:56 amHe has some things, but Obama has actually enabled practically every dictator on the planet, exit for Egypt and Honduras, he has summoned mobs like the ones who forced out public officials in Sanford, the gunrunning to the cartels, the squelching of political opposition.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/1/2017 @ 7:03 amCan Trump even grow a moustache?
nk (dbc370) — 7/1/2017 @ 7:11 amYou know that almost caricaturishly oversized hat Hitler wore? It was because it was really a helmet cover for a tungsten steel helmet. Trump will need one just as big merely to accommodate his hair, and twice as big if he wants the helmet too.
nk (dbc370) — 7/1/2017 @ 7:18 amYou would fool that waynwith colonels, NJ, I dont think so.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/1/2017 @ 7:34 amHow cool is this?
“A team of researchers in Australia have created an experimental paint that attracts water molecules from the air and chops them up to produce hydrogen, a clean-burning fuel that can be used to generate electricity.
“Our new development has a big range of advantages,” Dr. Torben Daeneke, a research fellow at Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology School of Engineering in Melbourne and leader of the team, said in a written statement. “There’s no need for clean or filtered water to feed the system. Any place that has water vapor in the air, even remote areas far from water, can produce fuel.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/solar-paint-ncna777586
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/1/2017 @ 8:17 amGet help, Dustin. Be well.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/1/2017 @ 8:19 amPaint the Great Southern Border wall with it.
mg (31009b) — 7/1/2017 @ 8:22 am@Dustin,
“Does anyone have an example of a school teaching children that Trump is another Hitler?
Eve (0bff6d) — 6/29/2017 @ 10:16 pm
Apparently it happened in a public school in NY state. However, I think there are plenty of valid reasons to compare Trump to a dictator. The way he obstructed justice, his ‘fake news’ shtick, his threat to sic the IRS on his critics, his praise of dictators massacring citizens who protested at Tienanmen square… it seems like an education would be incomplete without this sort of analysis.”
You certainly seem excusing comparing him to that Austrian swine by saying he acts like a dictator.
My point is broader, though. The Left has completely lost its bearing ngs, and has been showing signs of this since losing the 2000 election. I remember being shown 18th century political cartoons in school, and being invited to be horrified at the over the top rhetoric. Each side like terally asserting that the other is in league with the Devil.
The Left is doing that now.
C. S. P. Schofield (80e31c) — 7/1/2017 @ 8:25 amYes thetchings about her, were particularly
over the top:
http://www.regencyhistory.net/2012/10/georgiana-cavendish-duchess-of.html
Note they rarely show the duchess on TV.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/1/2017 @ 8:51 amHate to lowjack a thread.
But tomorrow when many of you will do, and transit the I-5 and come across Basilone Road, bow you head for Manila John.
I’m Italian. So it’s natural for me call your attention to my paisan. And in the same breath call your attention to the men who signed the Declaration of Independence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AeV8Jbx6M
And to the men of the Fitzgeral, it doesn’t ad up. Enjoy your hot dogs. Really. Just know there are those on watch for you.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/1/2017 @ 1:24 pmFitzgerald. I punch the f***ing keys on the keyboard and it doesn’t matter.
Like it doesn’t matter that a container ship punched a hole in a USN destroyer.
That nearly sank it. In the early morning h0urs. When everyone was sleeping.
But less than a dozen die.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/1/2017 @ 1:48 pmWe’re already armed, and if we were as unstable as our friends on the Left, the Civil War would be over and done with.
askeptic (8d10f9) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:29 pmWe’re already armed, and if we were as unstable as our friends on the Left, the Civil War would be over and done with.
askeptic (8d10f9) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:29 pmYes it makes no sense, and yet they have dropped this story. Like a hot potatoe
narciso (d1f714) — 7/1/2017 @ 6:37 pmtrannies are gross why do the democrats wanna do nasty trannies all up in the military
that’s just stupid
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/1/2017 @ 9:46 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6bsoyT86LE
Cnoose not to.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/1/2017 @ 11:24 pmBest bumper sticker: oppose gun control or I will shoot you.
guns for the homeless (44f7ce) — 7/1/2017 @ 11:47 pmCsp, thanks for the quote showing that I didn’t compare Trump to Hitler, and noted his praise of other dictators. Like I said. So I’m not sure what your problem is except that I respectfully do not agree that it is better to wait for a president to be literally Hitler before we get to criticize him on human rights. Another of those partisan things I’m not on board with.
Dustin (541b7d) — 7/2/2017 @ 12:04 amhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6bsoyT86LE
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 7/2/2017 @ 12:32 amDemocrats are not doing enough to put transgenders in the military. They need to talk about it more and fight harder for it, up to and including, refusing to pass the military and VA budgets until transgenders are allowed to enlist. The Pentagon will continue to be intransigent so they need to take the fight to the halls of Congress and to the people.
nk (dbc370) — 7/2/2017 @ 4:13 amCarlos slims profile of the sorcerers apprentice in Paris is indications of idolatry
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/like_haman_being_hung_on_the_scaffold_he_built_for_mordechai.htmlq
narciso (d1f714) — 7/2/2017 @ 5:49 amPresident Trump is so good on the human rights. (I love the great strides he’s making on this.)
He believes people have a human right not to be blown up by perverted muslim terrorists. And it would appear even the Supreme Court agrees!
Sally Yates on the other hand believes Americans need to take one for the team and die screaming because feewings, and she’s perfectly willing to ignore the Constitution to make this happen.
Corrupt DOJ trash gonna be trashy!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/2/2017 @ 7:35 amif i got into the military and got all tatted up and ready to serve then you made me salute a p.o.s. tranny I’d be all like this sucks
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/2/2017 @ 7:36 amY’know, the Left has one mission — make everything about Trump.
Trump has one mission — make everything about Trump.
Both are winning right now, or at least think they are.
Conservatives? Not so much.
Appalled (1a17de) — 7/2/2017 @ 7:39 amconservatives like the ever-constipated justin amash what wants to do scummy syrian terrorists all up in our schools to where the children are scared and timid, incapable of learning their lessons
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/2/2017 @ 8:21 amhappy feet: Agree that conservatives are scared and timid right now. They are scared of their voters. They are scared of how Trump reflects on them. They are afraid of what Trump might do to them. They are afraid they don’t know what they should be more afraid of. It sucks to be them.
Appalled (1a17de) — 7/2/2017 @ 8:51 amwhen you look at how cowardly bruce rauner is capitulating to the democrats here in illinois this weekend
you really kinda realize the whole “principles” thing with republicans is just an election year ploy
🙁
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/2/2017 @ 8:59 amWhen have conservatives been respected at the time for their beliefs, Reagan was called an amiable since at worst, whereas carter is stll well regarded for his good intentioms.
narciso (364166) — 7/2/2017 @ 9:46 amWhy isn’t Wendy Sherman Pelted with stones for how she enabled the Kim dynasty whereas as Bolton is,persons non grata
narciso (d82d4a) — 7/2/2017 @ 10:22 amReagan *was* an amiable dunce
what saved christmas from the soviet grinch-poopers
and for this we celebrate his legacy sometimes
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/2/2017 @ 10:34 amI’m buying anything she is selling.
WarEagle82 (2b3d34) — 7/2/2017 @ 6:50 pmapparently not a few did, since lurch picked her to negotiate with the sepah, the kind of great deal they got from the kim dynasty,
narciso (d1f714) — 7/2/2017 @ 6:53 pmThe Democrat Party is no longer the “Loyal Opposition” — they have decided that open sedition, insurrection and outright destabilization of the US government is their path to power.
And when the succeed, such tactics by their opposition won’t be tolerated.
Kevin M (752a26) — 7/4/2017 @ 4:00 pm