Trump: Guantánamo Bay to House Criminal Aliens
[guest post by Dana]
President Trump signs one more executive order:
President Trump said he is signing an executive order on Wednesday to prepare a massive facility at Guantánamo Bay to be used to house deported migrants.
The order will direct the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security to prepare a 30,000-person migrant facility at Guantánamo Bay. . .
“We have 30,000 beds in Guantánamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people,” Trump said during an event to sign the Laken Riley Act into law, stiffening the nation’s immigration laws.
“Some of them are so bad we don’t even trust the countries to hold them because we don’t want them coming back, so we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo,” Trump added. “This will double our capacity immediately. And tough, it’s a tough place to get out of.”
Trump says he's signing an order to build a migrant detention camp in Guantanamo Bay pic.twitter.com/VWQKCqCiE5
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 29, 2025
Unfortunately, this administration really doesn’t seem to differentiate between actual criminal aliens who commit violent crimes and alien families who have settled here, pay taxes, own homes, and simply live their lives. The fear is that they will treat both groups the same, thus the latter group could possibly be sent to Guantánamo Bay along with violent criminals.
CNN: What protections does this law have in place to protect folks who may have entered the country illegally, but have since obtained permission to stay temporarily?
KRISTI NOEM: Well, this bill is all about those who commit crimes.
CNN: But you can simply be accused and then… pic.twitter.com/qFTfcmfOj8
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 29, 2025
Hello.
Dana (d764d6) — 1/29/2025 @ 1:26 pm@Dana
What makes you say that?
Presumably, these are illegal aliens already convicted, and is in custody.
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/29/2025 @ 1:32 pmThese are definitely NOT concentration camps guys. Before any of you wackos start suggesting such things.
Nate (cfb326) — 1/29/2025 @ 1:36 pmSince Biden cleared it out it’s a good use of it and a way to dissuade future criminals.
NJRob (bb9d53) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:06 pmWhembly, I’ve been reading that schools have been visited by ICE. Additionally, I saw video of a family being escorted out of their home by agents. Children included. One can reasonably assume that the children, at least, are not violent criminals.
Dana (982b85) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:10 pmWhembly, I’ve been reading that schools have been visited by ICE.
Do you have a link?
Not all people with final deportation orders are hardened criminals. But deporting them is not only legal, it’s the Law.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:26 pm@5
One can reasonably assume that those children parents are here illegally, and in the interest to NOT splitting up the family, the whole family should be deported.
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:26 pmAll sides are conflating all they can. “Truth” was an early deportee.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:26 pmOne can reasonably assume that those children parents are here illegally, and in the interest to NOT splitting up the family, the whole family should be deported.
If the children were born here, there should be fostering or adoption options.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:27 pmICE has been conducting workplace raids across the country, and arresting any aliens they come across. They aren’t necessarily criminal aliens; Holman has said ICE will arrest any non-criminal aliens they come across. Just because criminal aliens are a priority doesn’t mean the “law-abiding” aliens should get a break.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:49 pmSource
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:51 pm@10 Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:49 pm
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/29/2025 @ 2:59 pmI agree… they ALL should be repatriated back home.
I have no idea what exact information NBC is using for their report. I will make an assumption. Because of “catch and release,” so many of the illegal aliens have already been cited for the crime of “improper entry.” Maybe there is a substantial amount of the non-violent criminals that are criminals nonetheless and already known to law enforcement by signing Biden’s guest book at the Open Border Invitational.
BuDuh (64098f) — 1/29/2025 @ 3:01 pmHowever, “Any person who, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation” is a criminal.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 3:07 pmIt would be terrible if they escaped into Cuba.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 3:10 pmLooking forward to the raids on left-wing seminaries and churches.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/29/2025 @ 3:15 pmFair point about keeping the criminals at Guantanamo, Dana, and as long as all are treated humanely.
Paul Montagu (3fa619) — 1/29/2025 @ 4:47 pm@Kevin@6 We’ve had ICE at a couple of our elementary schools. They haven’t taken any kids off campus at this point and seem mostly so far to be trying to figure out what kind of info we collect (probably nothing very useful to them).
Nic (120c94) — 1/29/2025 @ 4:50 pmIt will never happen, but PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER which was VERY SUCCESSFUL and we got more illegal aliens out of America than any other President in history.
nk (82e888) — 1/29/2025 @ 5:18 pmLooking forward to the raids on left-wing seminaries and churches.
There is an exception in 8 USC 1324
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/29/2025 @ 6:43 pm“The fear is that they will treat both groups the same, thus the latter group could possibly be sent to Guantánamo Bay along with violent criminals.”
Clearly. the fear is that our immigration laws will be enforced.
If a non-criminal alien family gets sent to Gitmo, that would be a story. Until then, I guess we’ll just have to manufacture the story.
lloyd (eb6264) — 1/29/2025 @ 7:41 pmThe fear is that hardworking people with families they are taking care of will, as a result of a *civil infraction*, be treated the same way that rapists, murderers, and carjackers are.
I’m aware that what I fear is what you want.
aphrael (dbf41f) — 1/29/2025 @ 9:04 pmToo bad this administration is going after Tren de Aragua instead of J6ers, right aphrael?
If fear prevents migrants from sending their kids alone to be tossed over the fence with only a note pinned to them, or sending their kids to be trafficked by a “family member” who is a complete stranger, or to be raped en route, or raping and killing someone like Laken Riley after having committed a *civil infraction* with no consequences, that would be very unfortunate. Because it’s not about them, it’s about you.
lloyd (eb6264) — 1/29/2025 @ 10:01 pmWill see how it plays out. We can always use gauntanamo to house trump and his minions. Maybe make a deal with cuba for the excess. I hope all this cutting and freezing chaos didn’t contribute to plain crash.
asset (6657e0) — 1/29/2025 @ 11:24 pmAnyone know if team USA figure skaters and coaches were on plane?
asset (6657e0) — 1/30/2025 @ 12:11 amFocusing on people like Tren de Aragua is one thing, but what I’m concerned about us stories like https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/29/texas-immigration-lubbock-police-traffic-stop-ice-deportation/?utm_campaign=trib-social-buttons&utm_source=native-share&utm_medium=social
People like that don’t deserve the cruelty inflicted on them, and their kids certainly don’t.
The claim that it’s about people like Lake Riley is a plausible lie used to conceal that it’s really about people like the guy in Lubbock.
I’m aware that this is what you want.
aphrael (dbf41f) — 1/30/2025 @ 1:11 am@26 Japanese saying cut flesh to cut meat. The corporate establishment leadership in the democrat party is being discredited and telling the enraged base of the party are donor class say we can only whine as we act like liberal punching bags! 2016 anger brought us 2018 and the rise of AOC and the squad. 2026 is coming soon and the primarying corporate establishment stooges will begin. Gavin Newsom is the next hillary clinton. Jimmy Kimmel did a joke video of him tonight. Direct Action by any means necessary! (Malcolm X) strikes terror in the donor class and their media running dogs. When the raids on elementary schools begin asking democrat politicians what are you going to do to stop it terrifies democrat governors.
asset (6657e0) — 1/30/2025 @ 2:14 amAphrael, you seem to be implying that Lloyd is a racist. Am I reading you correctly?
Time123 (66914d) — 1/30/2025 @ 4:05 amAthens illegal aliens driving without a license and by definition insurance. What could possibly go wrong?
NJRob (bb9d53) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:10 amThis is Trump we’re talking about, folks. It’s all entertainment value. In the same class as Marjorie Taylor-Greene holding up enlargements of Hunter Biden having sex with prostitutes.
Immigration porn. It’s what Trump fans like; it’s what Trump gives them.
nk (82e888) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:11 am@28
Par for the course Time…
He doesn’t believe non-criminal illegals (an oxymoron) shouldn’t be repatriated.
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:14 amFrom Aphrael’s terrifying link:
How did the Feds use discretion? I thought they were going to cuff Jose to the nearest rapist and lock him up in Cuba??
Of course the reality is that what happened to Jose was part of the risk he has been taking for years by driving illegally with faulty equipment. Law enforcements cooperation with ICE never went extinct despite Biden trying his best.
It would be interesting to hear more about his quest for a green card, but, according to the story, his lawyer doesn’t want to talk about that. She “declined to say how Jose Alvaro entered the country for fear that it may hurt his deportation case.”
Hopefully no one was lying to the court.
BuDuh (4214e4) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:19 amGFY. What happens to American citizens who drive without a license? What happens to American citizens who traffic their kids?
You want exceptions carved out for migrants, and smear anyone who doesn’t go along.
Jose Ibarra, the murderer of Laken Riley, was a Tren de Aragua gang member. He was arrested in New York “with acting in a manner to injure a child less than 17 and a motor vehicle license violation.”
He was let go and treated special, just like you wanted:
lloyd (eb6264) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:21 amI have cspan up on my iPad…
Struggling to split my time to watch the Kash or Gabbard hear…
Ugh…
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:35 amTime123 can’t focus past the ad hominem.
lloyd (eb6264) — 1/30/2025 @ 6:38 amDick Durbin is pontificating…
: making gross hand gestures :
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 7:09 amLOL!
Thom Tillis has a K$H bingo card!
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 7:15 amDemocrats are clowning themselves…
Switching to JVW’s Sweet Aloha’s™ confirmation…
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 7:53 amSheesh… Democrats aren’t any better there.
Tulsi is holding up well.
Back to Patel’s…
whembly (b7cc46) — 1/30/2025 @ 8:36 amIt doesn’t exempt seminaries or churches that are harboring illegal aliens for the purpose of preventing their deportation.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/30/2025 @ 8:58 am>What happens to American citizens who drive without a license? What happens to American citizens who traffic their kids?
Whatever legal penalties they face, they are not treated the same as murderers, rapists, and arsonists.
>You want exceptions carved out for migrants, and smear anyone who doesn’t go along.
No. I want them treated like anyone else.
*You* want them singled out for special treatment, where all illegal immigrants are treated like murderers, rapists, and arsonists.
>He was arrested in New York “with acting in a manner to injure a child less than 17 and a motor vehicle license violation.”
Any American citizen arrested on those charges would be let out on bail or, quite likely, simply *fined* and not subject to criminal prosecution.
Your contention is that he should be treated differently because we just *know* he’s a bad person, without actually going through any sort of legal process to *determine* that he’s worthy of different treatment.
aphrael (dbf41f) — 1/30/2025 @ 11:13 am@41 “Whatever legal penalties they face, they are not treated the same as murderers, rapists, and arsonists.”
Nor was the illegal migrant in your linked article. You haven’t provided a single example of an alien being treated like a murderer. rapist or arsonist who wasn’t actually a murderer, rapist or arsonist.
Ibarra was a Tren de Aragua gang member. He was a bad person, but was shielded from law enforcement (ICE) and given a free flight to anywhere. This is not how a U.S. citizen is treated. Had he been handed over to law enforcement, it could’ve been determined how bad he was. That’s not what you want. Rule of Law is not what you want.
lloyd (77510e) — 1/30/2025 @ 12:15 pmTrump heard that a Blackhawk was involved so he immediately assumed DEI.
Davethulhu (14e9e4) — 1/30/2025 @ 12:26 pmugh wrong thread oh well
Davethulhu (14e9e4) — 1/30/2025 @ 12:26 pmWhat happens to American citizens who drive without a license? What happens to American citizens who traffic their kids?
aphrael: Whatever legal penalties they face, they are not treated the same as murderers, rapists, and arsonists.
Parents who traffic their kids should be at the least treated as we would rapists.
Every once in a while a driver with no license, no insurance- multiple instances of ignoring the laws (think Sovereign citizens), every once in a while they get thrown in jail until they pay all their fines, but the County jail screws up and puts them into the wrong pod
steveg (25c199) — 1/30/2025 @ 4:53 pmI think US citizen minor children of criminal illegal aliens should be placed in the custody of the parents and be removed as a family unit
steveg (25c199) — 1/30/2025 @ 4:58 pm“I think US citizen minor children of criminal illegal aliens should be placed in the custody of the parents and be removed as a family unit”
An obvious exception would be illegal alien parents whose crimes include trafficking their children. The state has a responsibility to protect its minor citizens from endangering parents, but in most cases I’d lean towards maintaining the family unit intact
steveg (25c199) — 1/30/2025 @ 5:04 pm