Jan. 6: Four Years Later
[guest post by Dana]
It’s hard to believe we’re already at the four-year mark of the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. It’s even harder to believe that Donald Trump will be returning to the Oval Office in two short weeks because a majority of voters felt that the then-President, who encouraged the mob of supporters to riot in protest of the election results while he long-delayed stopping the violence, was a safer bet than the candidate (or any write-in name) who had never been involved in an insurrection at the Capitol, or lied incessantly about presidential election results, or defied the important and historical peaceful transfer of power to the highest office in our land.
But here we are.
I love the speech by Mitt Romney below. It encapsulates everything I have felt about that day, and the days leading up to January 6, 2021. I’ve seen the video linked at several sites and have taken the time to read many of the comments below it. It’s laughable how many sneer, “Yeah, so where’s Mitt now?,” referring to his impending retirement. Of course the insinuation is that he blew his political career by standing up against Trump. What a chump. In Trumpland, there is a distinct failure to understand that losing one’s political career by standing up for truth, accountability, and Constitutional loyalty is a badge of honor, not a walk of shame. Instead, quite the opposite is true: It is a walk of shame that election deniers take, including presidents and politicians, by rationalizing or denying the truth about Donald Trump‘s incessant lies concerning his election loss and his part in the insurrection of January 6.
Mitt Romney’s powerful speech on January 6, 2021;
“Now we gather due to a selfish man’s injured pride and the outrage of supporters who he had deliberately misinformed for the past two months… What happened here today was an insurrection incited by the President of the US” pic.twitter.com/bhs4cjpZPg
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 6, 2025
Vice-President Harris today reaffirmed her intention to carry out her lawful duties:
Today, I will perform my constitutional duty as Vice President to certify the results of the 2024 election. This duty is a sacred obligation — one I will uphold guided by love of country, loyalty to our Constitution, and unwavering faith in the American people. pic.twitter.com/w21HzdNxGs
— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) January 6, 2025
This video was released today. It’s an apt warning about those who would try to rewrite the history of Jan 6:
New video from The Lincoln Project: We Cannot Allow a Rewrite of J6 History. pic.twitter.com/w7X7oLyYJv
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 6, 2025
—Dana
Hello.
Dana (402e3a) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:13 amOne of the markers over the next four years will be how the incoming administration (I almost typed regime, but didn’t) will treat January 6. Will it become a national holy day of obligation? Will it just be forgotten after a few pardons. Will Trump make the same mistake as Liz Chaney and them (from a political standpoint) and be backward looking and overly concerned with accountability and retribution and hammering people for past “crimes”, while the price of eggs and milk skyrockets?
We’ll see. I respect the incoming administration’s political skills,and therefore hope a lot of the retrbution seeking will fall by the wayside. (See also, Hillary Clinton, not locked up)
I have no crystal ball for Trump and his followers. The next four years will continue to be a surprise.
Appalled (181501) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:31 am/s
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Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:32 amRomney’s speech was as brilliant as it was short notice.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:41 amFor a single-term guy, he was a giant of the Senate.
“who encouraged the mob of supporters to riot in protest of the election results ”
This is not true and you know it
Joe Bitem (d26d35) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:58 amThere are quite a few people who think Trump is ineligible to be President. Many more are aghast at his election and prepared to demonstrate their displeasure. Already local officials have suggested that they will resist any attempt at mass deportations, some suggesting doing so by force.
Had the rules in Congress been the same as they were in 2021, there would have been strenuous objections from the Floor. Needing 20% of their House though, there were none.
Would there have been crowds outside to protest? Doubtful, as the 2021 event left a poor taste, but the weather was also much much worse and the prospect of prosecution was much greater.
I don’t see this as a demonstration that the Democrat Party is putting country before party. They just lost and there is no way around it.
The events of Jan 6, 2021 should be examined on their own, without trying to pound square pegs into round holes to make “terrible” look worse.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:02 amThe hagiography of Harris doing her “duty” is risible. If the House version of the Electoral Count Act had passed the Senate, they would be voting as we speak as to whether Donald Trump was an insurrectionist.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:04 amRomney’s speech was as brilliant as it was short notice.
With any justice, 2021 should have been the end of his second term.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:11 amWhat happened Jan 6, 2021 was terrible. A disgraceful attempt to overturn the election and a violent riot. If it was “insurrection” that is a bar that we will later wish was higher.
But what I take away is this: “Donald Trump was elected in 2024 despite it.” How terrible must people see the establishment that they are willing to vote for a wrecking ball?
Rather than rail against Trump over the long-past-litigated J6 fiasco (which neither Biden, nor Harris, nor a number of Senate candidates could leverage), instead we should be asking “Why were primary voters so effing angry that they made Trump the overwhelming opposition choice? And why did that choice prevail?”
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:18 amYes. A few other things are happening today. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has resigned.
A little hard.
No he didn’t encourage the protesters to riot and it took him completely by surprise as was actually proven by Cassidy Hutchison’s testimony to the Jan 6 committee, in spite of the errors in her testimony, because there is agreement that he wanted to go personally to the Capitol and that would not have happened unless he thought it would be peaceful.
But White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows suspected there would be trouble and avoided scheduling the trip but did not inform Trump..
The storming of the Capitol was planned without him, although possibly he was roped into playing a supporting role in somebody else’s conspiracy.
We still don’t know who was the mastermind behind it, or what exactly was the purpose of it.
There wasn’t a long delay. It first took him some time to realize and then to acknowledge there was violence done by his supporters (or people who indicated they supported him)
His first attempts to stop it were to call on his supporters not to attack the police, which he did twice, (I think because he was persuaded that he had to agree he was against it) and he tried to remind them they were the party of law and order – in other words assaulting police was against Republican Party principles.
Going back, his very first reaction was to try to secure his plan for the day – that the objections and the vote on it – didn’t get upended by the riot, and to that end he managed to contact newly sworn in Senator Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) to ask him not to withdraw his objections. This call ended wen Tommy Tuberville told him they were being evacuated.
He also spoke to House Minority Leader Keven McCarthy during which he at first claimed it was not his supporters but Antifa. When McCarthy said that was not the case, he did not dispute that (which may mean that he knew it was not Antifa) and started to make excuses for them saying that they cared more about the election.
He had also made an excuse for the calls to “Hang Mike Pence”
Finally, he agreed with other people in the White House that only he could stop it, and he had to call on his supporters, not just to stop the violence, but to outright disperse, and he spent close to an hour preparing a video to be posted on Twitter.
The note that Cassidy Hutchison gave to Mark Meadows (but did not write as she somehow testified – she never said it was her idea but said it was dictation) was evidently part of a back and forth about what exactly he should say.
It was not an insurrection and I am surprised to read that Mitt Romney, wo retired as of Friday, called it that and I don’t think that what motivated Trump was merely pride. It’s not like the presidency is a ceremonial office. And there was no attempt to overthrow the U.S. government. It was a riot aimed, in the minds of many of the participants, at preventing or delaying the final
d act needed to declare who was the president-elect..
I’m not sure that is it. That that is the reason he won. Kamala Harris did not strike people as honest, capable or as someone who did not endorse crazy political positions
And he still continues to lie about the 2020 Presidential election. His motto seems to be “Never, never never say you were wrong and never apologize”
Up to a point. In the aftermath of the riot, he conceded. On January 7th.
Then he got banned from Twitter when he said he would attend the inauguration , which banning possibly might have been justified on the grounds that anything he said could be subjected to exegesis and people could say it was an endorsement of violence.
Nothing happened this year but this could be because he genuinely won the election this time.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:20 amNonsense of course, and I know that is sarcasm, but maybe it was Russia or Putin.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:23 amI agree, Romney would have won in 16, and probably 20, and everyone would be less…hateful. Although the campaigns would have always pushed a “woe is me” message, but that’s just normal. Instead of the today, where the GOP has turned into the Bund.
I’d have loved Romney. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:26 amAppalled (181501) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:31 am
I think that’s what Trump wants although when anyone brings it up, it’s back to: he really won in 2020 and nothing is his fault.
Some members of Congress want to investigate and clobber the Jan 6 committee but no one will pay a great deal of attention to that
What they will pay attention to is policy – the usual with a controversial president.
Deportations or not, health policy, foreign policy and wars, debt limit, congestion pricing,,
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/6/2025 @ 11:30 amI expect Trump to pardon those convicted of trespassing, unlawful parading and the like. The flash point will be those convicted of assaulting police. Pardoning those convicted of sedition will be a bridge too far.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 12:24 pmTrust me, the left of center drumbeat about Romney as the WORST IN AMERICAN HISTORY™ would have continued all the hatefulness that we currently see.
I am by no means a DJT supporter, but I know for a fact that many people support DJT because he is a living raised middle finger to the left.
So again, we each have to define what we believe in, and why. And how we would react if someone we detest does something we believe in, or if someone we support does something we do not.
We have all—all of us—embraced flexible yardsticks for too long. That is how you get Harris and Trump and Biden.
There were many people here who “hated” Romney. I don’t mean “disagreed with.” I mean “hate.”
That has to stop somehow. And I don’t see how.
Until we figure that out, we are unwitting tools for unelected people in power. That is to say, we remain chumps.
Sigh.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 1/6/2025 @ 12:33 pmFor First Time This Century, Democrats Don’t Challenge GOP President’s Electoral Votes
lloyd (49a02a) — 1/6/2025 @ 12:54 pmThe contrast of today vs 4 years ago demonstrates why I thought and continue to think Harris was and is vastly superior to the thoroughly unfit Trump.
JRH (e0bb04) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:02 pmFor all their talk of “law and order,” Republican leadership only believes in it when things go their way.
JRH (e0bb04) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:04 pmOr make January 6 into a “day of love.”
Rip Murdock (3fd0fb) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:08 pm2001: 13 House objectors, no concurring Senators*
2005: 1 House objector, 1 concurring Senator
2009: No objectors
2014: No objectors
2017: 11 House objectors, no concurring Senators
2021: 139 House objectors, 8 concurring Senators
Any comparison between 2021 and past elections is a bogus equivalency, based on Trump’s Big Lie.
* In an election where the margin was 500 or so in the deciding state.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:18 pmEr, 2013, not 2014.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:19 pmIt was a riot not a real insurrection. Most were charged with misdemeanors.
asset (b69ea8) — 1/6/2025 @ 1:25 pmEach Republican victor was objected to, for silly reasons. In 2021 the objections had to do with actual irregularities, including a PA absentee system that was contrary to the black-letter words in the PA constitution. While the objections were not well taken, they were not preposterous for PA.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:19 pmI’ve added a video that issues a strong warning to be watchful about those who would attempt to rewrite the history of January 6.
Dana (09b868) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:36 pmThis is true and you know it.
Dana (09b868) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:38 pmAsset,
You mean, like, it wasn’t “rape-rape”?
Here’s the definition of insurrection:
insurrection
Dana (09b868) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:43 pmnoun
in·sur·rec·tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən
Synonyms of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
16: JRH- For sure: Such a compelling candidate, that she won a massive 5% of the Demo primary votes in 2020. So ethical that she attacked Biden as a racist in a 2020 debate, then laughed about it afterwards; so on top of issues that when asked if she had been to the border she responded, “and I haven’t been to Europe.”
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:43 pm22 & 26: Insurrection is an actual crime: 18 USC 2383; were any 1-6 people charged or convicted of that?
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/6/2025 @ 2:48 pmNo, Kevin, there were actual allegations, unsupported allegations, not evidence, because there was never any evidence of serious fraud, because the source of the allegations goes back to Trump and his Big Lie.
All the relevant court cases were settled by J6, including the US and PA supreme courts regarding absentee ballots.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 3:03 pmAnd the US Supreme Court declined to hear the PA supreme court’s ruling.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 3:10 pmAll the relevant court cases were settled by J6, including the US and PA supreme courts regarding absentee ballots.
The PA Supreme Court said that the PA Supreme Court was allowed to ignore the PA Constitution. Fancy that. Does not mean they were right, just that they had the votes.
The US Supreme Court didn’t take the case because it was PA law, not US law, and the Guarantee Clause is moribund.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:11 pman act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government
So, if I throw a newspaper at an officious meter maid, am I an insurrectionist?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:12 pmPaul,
Do you argue that the objectors in 2000, 2004 and 2016 had a strong basis? Maybe in 2000 but the Supremes had already ruled. The PA absentee-ballot case was still pending after Biden took office.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:14 pmThe PA ruling was not that the absentee-balloting was lawful, it was that no remedy existed after the fact. A later case, dealing with future elections was still pending for quite some time after.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:17 pmIt died in 1849.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:20 pmOnly if you are attempting to overthrow legitimate governmental authority. Otherwise, it would be assault.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:22 pmWords have both a common and legal meaning, so in the common meaning, January 6, 2021 was an attempted insurrection against civil authority. Just because it didn’t succeed doesn’t mean they didn’t try.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:25 pmCongratulations to our next President, Donald J. Trump.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:26 pmPA Absentee Ballot case August 2, 2022
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:27 pmOnly if you are attempting to overthrow legitimate governmental authority. Otherwise, it would be assault.
That’s not the definition I was responding to:
throwing a newspaper at a meter maid is an INSTANCE of revolting against civil authority. The point I was making (and which Dana’s definition obfuscates) is that “insurrection” is more than acting out one’s displeasure.
What the J6 people did was incapable of overthrowing anything. It was criminal trespass, disorderly conduct and destruction of property. In some cases it was assault. It was also a really bad idea. But it was not an attempt to overthrow.
What the various Congressmen did had some potential to overthrow, but none of them were charged (Speech & Debate Clause).
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:33 pman attempted insurrection against civil authority. Just because it didn’t succeed doesn’t mean they didn’t try.
How would they have succeeded? What did they do that, having been successful, would have overthrown the government? The ONLY people who could have overthrown anything were the Senators and Congresspeople. And the mob could not have forced that.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:37 pmKilling a few members of Congress (or holding them hostage) while preventing the certification of the election.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 1/6/2025 @ 5:41 pm@37
In the common meaning, so was McCabe’s insurance policy.
lloyd (ab44dc) — 1/6/2025 @ 7:12 pmThe Lincoln Project? The cretins who pulled this stunt.
Strong warning, indeed.
lloyd (ab44dc) — 1/6/2025 @ 7:19 pm37: Rip- If J6 defendants were not charged with or convicted of insurrection, they are “insurrectionists” only in the political view of a speaker electing to use that term, and not in the law.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (19c863) — 1/6/2025 @ 7:44 pmAh, all those BLM and antifa folks wearing the gear of the Bund to storm the capitol. It’s obvious when you see the thousands of hours of video. All of these young kids, coloreds, homo’s you see in the video. Completely unrealistic that is was moronic middle aged white dudes spouting the dumbest takes possible.
Cue the morons…3…2…1…
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 1/6/2025 @ 7:48 pmIf the Lincoln Project Walks Like a Bunch of Democrats and Quacks Like a Bunch of Democrats…
Keep walking and quacking, Herr Klink.
lloyd (ab44dc) — 1/6/2025 @ 8:01 pm4 years of leftism has been horrific for the nation and the world. So much so that Trump is more popular than ever and his policies demanded by Western nations worldwide.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 1/6/2025 @ 8:18 pmCue queued.
The Bund is always reliable.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 1/6/2025 @ 8:29 pmHeck, at MSG the Bund was one of many global Nazi sympathizers. Wrong then, wrong now.
Now, how about some modern Nazi’s tell us how they’re not like those Nazi’s.
I’m sure NJ will give us a good playbook from his local club, New Jersey European Heritage Association.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 1/6/2025 @ 8:35 pm48. NJRob It is kind of amazing. Never Trump and Anti-Trump are acting like aghast parents who cannot believe that their daughter declined their choice for a date.
The fungible “Trump is a Dictator” writers at the Wa Po, like the fungible ones at the El Segundo Times, are so beside themselves they are ordering extra large soy/decaff lattes, and for fortitude, munching 2 pieces of gluten-free organic avacado toast. Their manbuns are in tatters.
“How could the voters have risked Our Democracy by electing that turbulent hotelier? A felon, a rake, and a blowhard? We had him mugshotted! Didn’t they know that we had all of the editorial writers, thinkers, columnists and talking heads?
Didn’t they read the Atlantic? Don’t they know he is a dictator?
Was our message too complex to be grasped by the rubes?”
All the while never asking “if he was that bad what does it say about you that he won?”
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/6/2025 @ 9:29 pmNot at all. 2000 was their least weakest out of those three, but they were all weak, 2020 included.
That’s your opinion, Kevin, but it’s not true because they ruled that Trump was too late. Bottom line, the conservative US Supreme Court rejected Trump’s appeal; they didn’t state their reasons, but their ruling meant that the PA decision didn’t violate the US Constitution.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 9:30 pmExcuse the bold font.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/6/2025 @ 9:31 pmHi Colonel. Glad to see you’re still on message! Happy New Year!
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/6/2025 @ 9:31 pm@NJRob@48 I mean, not really. The covid vaccine was distributed well and has significantly reduced problems with the virus. Unemployment is low. We avoided the recession most economists predicted. Ukraine has continued to resist invasion. And the rail road workers got a good contract. Post covid things in this country have been relatively uneventful.
Nic (120c94) — 1/6/2025 @ 9:44 pm@55 Too bad the voters believed their lying eyes.
lloyd (0be402) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:14 pm@lloyd@56 There are people who live in places that have unpleasant realities that don’t have a lot to do with the government or aren’t terribly solveable by easy or inexpensive means that Trump was willing to pretend he could fix. He’s not going to be able to bring back the steel industry or achieve a renewed interest in coal, but he’s willing to pretend that he can. He’s not going to be able to stem the flow of drugs into the country, but he’s willing to pretend he can. He’s not going to be able to remove everyone who is in the country illegally, but he’s willing to pretend he can. People who live in the areas affected by those issues want to believe that he can.
Nic (120c94) — 1/6/2025 @ 10:23 pm@57 Very few problems can’t be solved if you are ruthless enough. That is why I am on the authoritarian side of the left not the anarchist side. Example: Oct. 16 1859 Abolutionists ask how can we ever end slavery? Oct. 17 1859 Oh! Thats how we will end slavery if we have the courage too!
asset (d8b5c9) — 1/7/2025 @ 1:21 am@55 the economy and stock market is doing just great for the wealthy democrat donor class and inflation is not a problem for the rich. Unfortunately poor people get to vote. James carville said yesterday I ignored its the economy stupid and it cost me. I wont make that mistake again. Harris told liz cheney and DEI not Bernie Sanders and 15 dollar minimum wage or no $$$ for your campaign. DNC: trump can’t run again so we can spend all our time and money fighting Sanders and the progressives!
asset (d8b5c9) — 1/7/2025 @ 1:31 amAt least we officially know that Trump is not an insurrectionist. After all, his vote was certified and we’ve been told that insurrectionists are automatically disqualified from holding office.
So we can put that nonsense to bed.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 1/7/2025 @ 6:09 amIs the world worse off since 2020? In some ways, in some places. Others not so much.
But the world is definitely richer — by a lot.
And the most troubled part of the world, sub-Saharan Africa, is making progress against a horrible disease.
Jim Miller (604e50) — 1/7/2025 @ 6:37 amThere was yet another murder attempt on the NYC subway a few days ago.
Having not ridden the subway in many years, I found the comments interesting about how riders have adjusted. Seems the advice is to stand on the platform with your back flush to the wall or grab tight to a handrail. Don’t stand off by yourself. Keep your head on a swivel. Stay off your phone. If you see something, don’t get involved.
Crime statistics and a non-rider like Kathy Hochul tell a different story. Choose the story you want to believe.
lloyd (1e7112) — 1/7/2025 @ 7:55 amKilling a few members of Congress (or holding them hostage) while preventing the certification of the election.
And this would have overthrown the government?
1. Invade the Capitol and hold a few Congressmen hostage
Kevin M (a9545f) — 1/7/2025 @ 8:09 am2. ???
3. King Trump
I am going to make one prediction. Those who seek to devote the government’s time and resources to the persecution of those who defended the country against the January 6 riots, insurrection, what have you are making a the same political mistake as those who made the 2024 election about January 6. The American people have made it clear they do not care about those events in the past, if there is inflation or a bad economy. Not caring is not the same as thirsting for retribution.
As I noted above, I hope Trump knows this in his demagogic heart. The threat of retribution is very useful to him. Actual accomplishment of it might not be.
Appalled (040c23) — 1/7/2025 @ 8:49 amYou wish.
Paul Montagu (7329e4) — 1/7/2025 @ 9:32 amTrump fomented an insurrection that desecrated our nation’s Capitol and obstructed a Constitutional proceeding.
That taint will forever stay on your Orange Leader.
61: Jim:
Richer? I am not sure what you read, but may I suggest some new additions?
Take a moment to look at the US Debt as a total, and as a % of GDP. Scary, huh?
Do you also see that US interest payemnts on that debt are now 1T–more than our defense budget?
Many major cities are choked with unfunded debt to city worker pensions, and teacher pensions: they have been selling off the family silver for some time. Chicago sold off its parking meter revenue for the next 80 years to get a loan–to be used to pay some pensions obligations. And that was years ago. Things have only gotten worse there.
Seattle, Portland and San Francisco are losing stores in the city core, meaning tax revenue.
CA is bleeding businesses and tax revenue, while fatuously adding more and more debt.
About one fifth of the work force is in distress, and unable to make payments on cards and cars.
Meanwhile the US defense capacity is outmoded: our ICBM’s are almost 50 years old. The B52 is a relic. Our army is not meeting enlistment quotas. Our Navy is now 2d to China. If we upgrade that its going to cost trillions from… somewhere.
Richer? I feel a lot of debt has been taken on for footling reasons and the payment has not been made yet.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/7/2025 @ 10:44 am62: Lloyd: Daughter in NY; one day was waiting to board a subway car and when the doors opened, people came running–running out; she prudently followed them; a distance from the car a man could be seen banging his head against the car windows and yelling; then he got off the car so normies went back on; then HE got back on and the normies fled again. The doors closed and Crazy Man was on his way alone to a new stop and more normies.
Another day: using her phone to check work files, but sitting near the door: doors open and a future brain surgeon reached in to grab her phone. She wrestled it back. Doors close. Large Homeless Person berates her for not giving her phone to the man, who was “probably poor and needed that phone.” She had enough and got off the car-only to be harassed on the platfrom by druggies. Went up to the street and walked home in rain.
Another: leaving subway a man falls from the stair rail to the concrete stairs. He groans I hestitate: but the locals all rush by and so does Amazing Child (“you don’t stop for crazy, dad.”)
endless
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/7/2025 @ 10:55 amHarcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 1/7/2025 @ 10:55 am
What line and what section of the city was this in?
I also realized that none of these incidents involved a crime – at least a reported crime. (attempted theft of a cell phone is a crime, although difficult to prove. The second homeless person who said the guy probably needed the phone was an idiot.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/7/2025 @ 4:06 pmHere is Trump prepared to rebut the chronology that he sat around for three hours and did nothing: (He pulled a piece of paper out of his inside coat pocket)
https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2023-05-11-watch-what-donald-trump-really-said-and-did-on-january-6th
The clip is cut off before the CNN anchor can say more than a word or two. She does get quoted as saying they reported that tweet. That’s right. It wasn’t until later that they came up with the myth that Donald Trump sat around on January 6, 2021 for three hours watching TV and doing nothing. Not exactly, even though he may have watched TV for several minutes or more and marveled at how much support he had.
The strange thing: He claims, in that that his shortly after 2:30 post (really 2:38) was taken down. I never read that. Of course it was taken down two days later until his account was restored. Of course Trump might have decided to take down those tweets himself that day.
It seems like that already at 2:30 (which was six minutes or so after his anti-Mike Pence tweet was sent) he had already stated that assaulting police was against Republican Party principles.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/7/2025 @ 4:39 pmhere is the New York Times timeline
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/15/us/trump-capitol-riot-timeline.html
It doesn’t have the two earlier tweets before his 4:17 twitter video posting..
The second one is here though: (Trump says it was at 2:30 but that’s wrong)
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-protests
That one was at 3:13
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346912780700577792?mx=2
The NYT reported it at Jan. 6, 2021, 3:36 p.m. ET
Both tweets are here:
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/07/954384999/timeline-how-one-of-the-darkest-days-in-american-history-unfolded
AND later:
Later he makes tried again but also made an excuse:
Then after 7:00 Twitter blocked his account for 12 hours and removed three tweets – including the 4:17 video telling them to go home!
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 1/7/2025 @ 4:40 pm