Matt Gaetz withdraws as candidate for Attorney General
[guest post by Dana]
It was just announced that Donald Trump’s choice for attorney general, Matt Gaetz, stepped down from the running:
Matt Gaetz withdraws his bid for attorney general amid sexual misconduct allegations.
Trump’s choice had been hindered by sexual misconduct allegations and a House Ethics Committee investigation.
I have two questions: Why does it matter if a man accused of sexual assault multiple times over, is our attorney general? After all, he’s no different than our President-elect. More than half of the voters clearly have no problem with that sort of “character flaw”. The report says that Republicans were uncomfortable with Gaetz as attorney general. Why? They’ve already evidenced that a functioning moral compass, and respect for the rule of law and the US Constitution, doesn’t matter to them. If Republicans find that Donald Trump is more than acceptable as our President, then why not Matt Gaetz as attorney general?
If you counter this argument of GOP hypocrisy with, “Yes, but the fact that he has stepped down because Republicans were not comfortable with him demonstrates a functioning, moral compass,” I would say to you: As long as Donald Trump is in office, that argument rings hollow.
Then, my second question is: With whom will Trump replace Gaetz?
Trump’s statement on Matt Gaetz’s decision:
I greatly appreciate the recent efforts of Matt Gaetz in seeking approval to be Attorney General. He was doing very well but, at the same time, did not want to be a distraction for the Administration, for which he has much respect. Matt has a wonderful future, and I look forward to watching all of the great things he will do!
—Dana
Hello.
Dana (d8ec02) — 11/21/2024 @ 10:23 amThe difference is Trump didn’t diddle minor-aged kids, far as we know, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin has a tape of him and Jeffrey Epstein and young teenager or two.
But that’s where the Trump line is drawn…if you’re not a multi-offending statutory rapist, you can be a Trump nominee.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 10:44 amSpellcheck?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 10:47 amThey’re all abusive perverts.
Hegseth paid a woman off after reportedly drugging and attacking her at a political conference. McMahon is being accused of enabling the Mel Phillips “Ring Boy” abuse.
And let’s spare a thought for his “advisor” from the first go-round, George Nader, currently serving five years for the sexual abuse of minors and CSAM, and another 1.6 for funneling bribes from the UAE to… certain US political action committees.
If Epstein were still alive, Gaetz may not have had the chance to drop out.
john (aff6cb) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:06 am4,
Got it. Was actually hiking up a hill when I heard the news and stopped to do a quick post – without my readers. Fixed now.
Dana (d64866) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:07 amThen, my second question is: Who do you think Trump will replace Gaetz with?
Jeffrey Clark?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:10 amKamala Harris is tanned, rested and ready.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:11 amI’ve posted Trump’s response to Matt Gaetz’s decision.
Dana (d64866) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:13 amThis was all a ruse to prevent the house investigation from coming out.
Davethulhu (ded184) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:26 amMcConnell turned out to be good for something.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:31 ammeh, just because Gaetz (statutory) raped some teens, look, a fake diary entry says…
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:47 amUpdate on the charming Mr. Hegseth – Mediaite FOIA’ed the police report.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/11-20-24-Mediaite.pdf
john (aff6cb) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:53 amComical to read the accusations of hypocrisy from folks who would’ve voted for Bill Clinton had he replaced Harris on the ballot.
lloyd (6b6c89) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:26 pmA constitutional impossibility.
Rip Murdock (e63693) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:36 pmlloyd,
I can’t remember when you actually addressed the issue at hand without going “Look! Squirrel!,” or a Gotcha!, or an, “Oh yeah…!!“
Dana (d64866) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:39 pmLOL that wouldn’t matter. But ok, Bill Clinton disguised as Anthony Weiner.
lloyd (6b6c89) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:42 pmAs I said here, that would also be a tough nomination fight, given the fact that the DC Bar has recommended a two-year suspension of his law license
Presumably the next nominee will not have accusations of sex trafficking leveled against him/her.
I wouldn’t be surprised, which is why Gaetz resigned so quickly. He can always rent out his forehead as a billboard.
Rip Murdock (e63693) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:45 pm@16 Dana, focusing on an accusation that a politically biased DOJ investigated and dropped is the ultimate “Look! Squirrel!” Why can’t others play, too?
We had four years of “The Big Guy” accusations and whistleblower testimony, but that was ignored as “Look! Squirrel!”, right? Everything that points to Nevertrump and left wing hypocrisy is “Look! Squirrel!”. Because reasons.
False accusations that Trump-inspired militias were threatening FEMA workers just before the election. Now, that was totally legit! No “Look! Squirrel!” there!
lloyd (6b6c89) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:51 pmI think Gaetz failed because people really detest him for his role in throwing the House in chaos and his big mouth about his sexual conquests The salacious ethics crimes probably would not have felled him. Paying for underage sex is probably something other Congress critters do.
Appalled (f2f556) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:52 pmColonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:47 am
Just one, maybe twice before she turned 18, and he and the others weren’t told her age.
He was investigated for the federal crime of sex trafficking probably in this connection, and for a whole slew of allegations by the House Ethics Committee.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/politics/matt-gaetz-house-ethics-report.html
Some of these things (like diverting campaign funds) may also be crimes, but didn’t attract the attention of the Justice Department, but might if they became public..
It’d be hard to prove that some expenses were uncalled for.
And this is all besides his general lack of character and playing political games, and probable lack of ability to handle the job properly.
Ethics aside, he doesn’t have the background you would normally consider for the post of Attorney General – it’s not close.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:53 pmMost of which were based on hearsay or just made up.
Rip Murdock (e63693) — 11/21/2024 @ 12:56 pmKevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:11 am
And has a25% yo 60% chance of eventually becoming Ambassador to Japan. They are often people who strike the Japanese as being extremely important but aren’t.
Some previous ambassadors:
Former Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (1961-1977) from June 10, 1977 to December 22, 1988.
Former Vice President and then 1984 losing presidential candidate Walter Mondale from September 21, 1993 to December 15, 1996.
Defeated House Speaker Tom Foley from November 19, 1997 to April 1, 2001.
Former Senate Republican Leader and later (1987-8) White House Chief of Staff Howard Baker from July 5, 2001 to February 17, 2005.
President’s daughter and would be Senator
Caroline Kennedy from November 12, 2013 to January 18, 2017 (she’s now Ambassador to Australia)
Former member of Congress, White House Chief of Staff and mayor of Chicago Rahm Emanuel from March 25, 2022 to date.
(The post seems to have been vacant for a few years from 2019 to 2022)
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 1:10 pmWhich is the one thing that could most get at the truth. Not directly, because the police would not know if the two knew each other beforehand, or even knew to ask, but there would be something to look into. In the report she claims she was introduced to Hegseth. There’s nothing like the recently memo about her being is minder. Rather she was someone important to the attendees.
It is notable that the woman did NOT go to the police, but to the hospital only, which is not inconsistent with her lying to her husband.
There is an contradiction between what Hegseth
s lawyer says and what she said about her being sober. Lawyer claims video proves it but it was not released. Report says no video was known to exist but it is later mentioned as exempt from disclosures.
She claims memory was going in and out and implies she might have been given some drug by someone other than Hegseth, which however did not immediately take effect.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 1:23 pmGaetz did not say anything about his confirmation prospects in his message to the public but claimed nomination fight would be a “distraction.”
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 1:26 pmWhat are your odds based on; and why would Trump nominate any Democrat to an important ambassadorship (or any post) like Japan?
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 1:51 pmPaging Col. Klink:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:12 pm@27 Another non-story from Rip.
lloyd (6b6c89) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:21 pmYet you and BuDuh went squirrel on Dana’s post on this topic.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:21 pmMr. Gaetz told people close to him that he concluded after conversations with senators and their staffs that there were at least four Republican senators who were implacably opposed to his nomination: Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and John Curtis of Utah, who will be seated in January.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:31 am
I told you guys that Curtis would be in the Romney mold.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:28 pmI don’t think so, Paul.
Dana wrote:
I think debate over what character flaws do or do not bother voters is entirely relevant to the conversation.
The accusation is that Joe Biden had showers with his daughter that were not appropriate. You previously said:
Doesn’t that mean that you had no problem with the “character flaw” of inappropriate showering with one’s child?
BuDuh (a8b3e7) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:35 pmAn inept Attorney General would be a significant irritant, but having a less than competent Director of National Intelligence and Secretary of Defense is a truly frightening proposition.
John Boddie (dcf99c) — 11/21/2024 @ 2:59 pmVery true, John Boddie.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:05 pmTrump is right that Gaetz has options. He could…
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:12 pm(1) return to the House for the upcoming session, saying that he quit just his current term but was still elected to the next term. But, the House Ethics Committee and their investigation of his conduct are still there.
(2) be appointed US Senator by DeSantis to replace Rubio, if the FL governor could politically handle appointing a statutory rapist.
(3) run for Florida governor or Senator in 2026, which assumes that Florida men and women would vote for a statutory rapist, or
(4) there’s an opening at FoxNews that Hegseth just vacated, assuming Hegseth doesn’t withdraw or get voted down for his pizda-grabbing and/or categorical lack of qualification for the post.
(5) say the hell with it and go on a binge of drug-fueled sex orgies as a private citizen.
“Whatabout Biden!” is nothing but squirelling.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:27 pmThat was quick.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:39 pmTrump just nominated Pam Bondi, who actually has some experience being an AG. Sounds like a notch up from the statutory rapist.
“Whatabout Biden!” is nothing but squirelling.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:27 pm
Some are just incapable of criticizing their own side. It’s both funny and sad.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:42 pmPaul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 3:39 pm
And the withdrawal was quick. As late as this morning, Donald Trump was telephoning Senators (to ear what they were telling him)
I expected Gaetz’s nomination to most likely end this way, but not so fast.
CBS News reported that there were eight Republican Senators who had indicated they would not vote to confirm Matt Gaetz.
Donald Trump was anxious to have an Attorney general in place right after he takes office, because he wants to sign or have signed a number of executive orders right away.
I don’t think she was on a list of 5 names being considered that CBS News broadcast.
It looks to me that Todd Blanche wants avfigrehead over him. This person would take the heat for signing anything of dubious legality.
It could be any number of things. Declarations of emergency. Legal opinions. Etc.
Do you know they are considering not issuing passports and even Social Security cards to any infants born in the United States to people legally forbidden to be in the United States?
How would that even work?
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:31 pmA man accused of sexual assault multiple times over, is on our Supreme Court.
TDM (f612d8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:40 pmA moral compass does not require one to believe all accusers, like Kavanaugh’s accuser or Jussie Smollett.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2020/11/05/pam-bondi-throws-herself-into-trump-effort-to-stop-counting-votes (in 2020)
2016: https://fortune.com/2016/09/12/trump-foundation-bondi-florida-ag
Pam Bondi’s speech at the 2020 Republican National Convention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06S-qwkTgA
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:42 pmYou ever seen a game where a basketball player is hitting every shot from pretty much everywhere on the floor and looks like he or she just can’t miss? Usually it ends when they do something kind of outlandish like launch a 38-footer or try to shoot a sky hook from 18 feet. That sort of shot is colloquially referred to as “a heat check” where the shooter just wants to see what kind of shots they can shoot before finally missing.
I think the appointment of Matt Gaetz as Attorney General was a heat check for Donald Trump. If I were a GOP Senator I still would have wanted him to have a confirmation hearing, because I would have been interested in seeing how he managed to beclown himself in that venue.
JVW (1f63ab) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:48 pmWhich should have been investigated by the House during its impeachment inquiry. Since there is no direct evidence beyond what is in the diary, the House should have called his daughter as a witness.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:53 pmShe was probably in his hip pocket the entire time. I wonder who is in that pocket to replace Gabbard, Hegseth, or Kennedy?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:56 pmVery easily. You check the immigration status of the parents and if they are illegally in the US, then their children don’t get their papers.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:58 pmPam Bondi didn’t make this list (no woman did.) I would have picked Todd Blanche (deputy AG nominee) or Emil Bove, whom Trump has named a principal associate deputy attorney general (which doesn’t require Senate confirmation.) Rod Rosenstein had good words about both.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:07 pmI agree, I think all nominees should go through the confirmation process and receive an up or down vote. Let the chips fall where they may.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:09 pmRip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 1:51 pm
Just an off the cuff feeling, as she would be one of the few people who would fit the bill of seeming to be very important figures but not really being so, and half or more of the U.S. ambassadors to Japan in the last 47 years have been in that category.
I said “eventually”
Walter Mondale was appointed by the next Democratic president elected after he lost the 1984 election, Trump is unlikely to do it unless he wants to keep her out of the 2028 race, and why should he?
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:12 pmRip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:58 pm
And how do you o that? Can you imagine the delays? Or consider the neglect?
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:15 pmWhat is funny and sad is that this is really a Whatabout Paul Montagu..
BuDuh (a8b3e7) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:20 pmThe speed at which
1) Gaetz resigned from congress
2) Gaetz withdrew from the AG nomiation
3) Trump put in a new applicant
makes it clear that that the whole thing was theater, pretext to get Gaetz out of congress while keeping the ethics report under wraps.
Davethulhu (ded184) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:23 pmT
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Gaetz also withdrew from the taking the oath of office in the next Congress in his letter to Speaker Johnson; though he can run in a special election.
MAGAworld (as well as herself) are pushing for Lara Trump to be chosen.
It’s long been rumored that Gaetz was running for governor, now he has some extra time to do so.
………
Alternatively, he could be a recess appointment as ambassador to Thailand.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:27 pmSorry for the formatting issues.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:28 pmno serious person things Desantis is going to appoint either Lara or Gaetz, two people who trashed him and his family, even after Desantis lost the primary.
It’s a good troll, though.
Dustin (7783f7) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:41 pmTrump just nominated Pam Bondi, who actually has some experience being an AG
Like I said, battlespace prep.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:44 pmmakes it clear that that the whole thing was theater, pretext to get Gaetz out of congress while keeping the ethics report under wraps.
Gaetz was re-elected and his new term starts in January.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:45 pmGaetz also withdrew from the taking the oath of office in the next Congress in his letter to Speaker Johnson
Did not know that.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:45 pmAlternatively, he could be a recess appointment as ambassador to Thailand.
Brazil is nice, too.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:46 pmVery easily. You check the immigration status of the parents and if they are illegally in the US, then their children don’t get their papers.
Would they have standing to sue? Because if they did, they’d win.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:48 pmSome are just incapable of criticizing their own side. It’s both funny and sad.
There’s a lot of that going on.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/21/2024 @ 5:49 pmThe next shoe to drop?
I don’t think Hegseth will drop out, he’s made of stronger stuff than Gaetz. As I said, every nominee deserves to have a hearing. The Senate Armed Services Committee should be prepared to call everyone involved as a witness.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:07 pmI think determining the (illegal) immigration status of the parents (or patients) should be fairly easy, it’s being done in Florida and Texas right now. They’re just not reporting the information to immigration authorities.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:15 pmVery easily. You check the immigration status of the parents and if they are illegally in the US, then their children don’t get their papers.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 4:58 pm
If their children are born in the U.S., the children are U.S. citizens. You can’t deny a passport or Social Security card to a U.S. citizen just because you don’t like his parents.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:22 pmI’m all for a Constitutional amendment that does away with birthright citizenship, but a ham-fisted end run is not the way to address the issue.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:24 pmAccused is irrelevant.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:44 pmAs a veteran gym-rat who did heat-checks all the time, I love that theory, but I don’t agree with it because Trump is too glandular and seat-of-the-pants to be tactical or strategic. I’m more inclined to believe that he saw Bondi and others appear on FoxNews and that was good enough for him.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:48 pmThen the parents have to make a choice: either return to their native countries and take their children, or leave them here.
Rip Murdock (ffdd80) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:13 pmA constitutional amendment is not absolutely necessary, a reinterpretation by the Supreme Court as to what the 14 Amendment says is also an option.
Rip Murdock (ffdd80) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:15 pmThen the parents have to make a choice: either return to their native countries and take their children, or leave them here.
Rip Murdock (ffdd80) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:13 pm
I agree.
norcal (40c244) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:25 pmLOL. The hypocrisy just won’t stop.
Why isn’t Gaetz in jail, Paul? Have you squared that in your head?
lloyd (ae5eff) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:45 pmI can see that you’re desperately attempting gotchas, lloyd, but I have no idea what you’re f-cking talking about.
Paul Montagu (8fe1eb) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:58 pmGaetz also withdrew from the taking the oath of office in the next Congress in his letter to Speaker Johnson
I recall that a couple of years earlier Gaetz was mulling over leaving Congress to take a position at NewsMax. It’s true that I don’t care for the guy one bit and am unlikely to give him the benefit of the doubt, so it probably won’t surprise anyone to hear that I always figured he was the sort of guy who spends a few terms on Congress just to become famous so he can then move into the lucrative venues of media and “consulting.” I’m kind of surprised it took him this long. He’s the yang to the yin of all of those Democrats (and some Republicans) who spend 30 years in Congress because they love it so and that’s the best that they can possibly do career-wise anyway.
JVW (1f63ab) — 11/21/2024 @ 8:21 pmSure, Paul. The question was so very complicated.
lloyd (ae5eff) — 11/21/2024 @ 8:22 pmOne sexual predator down many more to go.
asset (1690ef) — 11/21/2024 @ 11:36 pmSomething seems off about the community note on this tweet.
The good news about Ms. Bondi is that her corruption is more garden-variety. She should sail through.
Paul Montagu (606fc3) — 11/22/2024 @ 6:56 am19: Lloyd:
Allow me to help here.
BEFORE 11-5-2024, some things were fine and understood to be Good and Right: pack the supreme court, and eliminate the filibuster.
And appoint all manner of people that not even a local McDonalds would hire, e.g., to manage nuclear waste, while stealing luggage at airports; a “Transp. Sec” that was a small-town mayor, justices that cannot define “Woman,” officials insisting that the border is “secure,” even as 10M people came thru w/o impediment, and people who gleefully indicted a major-party a presidential candidate for the first time in 248 years;
But its AFTER 11-5-2024, so all of those old rules and understood conventions have become magically unmentionable. In the middle of the card game, all those KINGS and ACES you got somehow, that were of great value before, are now “valueless” under the “new rules.” And its rude, gauche and diversionary for you to even mention the “old” rules “they” applied.
Because there are no rules. Only what “I want right now.”
Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi! (What is allowed the gods is not allowed the cattle).
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (628450) — 11/22/2024 @ 8:23 amRip Murdock (ffdd80) — 11/21/2024 @ 7:15 pm
But a court decision would be retroactive and not even Stephen Miller wants to open that can of worms, with its resulting genealogical investigations, resulting probably soon in new law grandfathering citizenship in – to probably more people than he wants. He does like the idea of converting people from legal status to illegal status, like by ending TPA after people have been in the United States for many years, but not the kind of situation that could cause his policy to lose support.
The Biden Administration is taking steps against people being converted from one status to another, like by missing a personal appointment. They want to guarantee electronic check-in. The official objection to that is that then people could check in while giving a false street address but the real reason ICE people want it is that people would come to them and they would not have to hunt out people. They want to trick people into surrendering, or so the Biden people think.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-quietly-scraps-person-check-180453302.html
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 10:44 amHe had to reiterate that today. I guess it wasn’t final – but there is that House Ethics Committee report waiting for him if he attempts to join the next Congress. There will be a vote on the House floor about releasing it after Thanksgiving (unless maybe the sponsor withdraws it)
The Committee divided 5-5 on its release (membership in the House Ethics Committee is even by party with a majority needed to do anything)
The argument the Chairman used against release was that the report wasn’t finished up. They had evidently been working on a timetable for release just before Congress adjourned sine die.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 10:49 amYou say that like it’s a bad thing-it’s not. I’m not sure what you mean by “genealogical investigations”; and I doubt the new Congress (and Trump) would favor a law grandfathering citizenship.
In any case, the Court (if it wished) could make its decision overturning Wong Ark Kim prospective from the date of ruling and not necessarily retrospective.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 10:56 amRip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/21/2024 @ 6:15 pm
No Florida isn’t “determining” the status of the parents and it’s probably the same in Texas.
1. This applies only to hospitals accepting Medicaid.
2. The parents are asked a question.
2a. They don’t have to answer that.
2b. They don’t have to tell the truth/
2c. Nobody is checking.
2d. To encourage truthful answers, they are told there will b consequences to them of gibing any answer.
3. If this became a requirement for getting a Social Security card, some women would lie about not knowing the father, or about who the father
was.
4. You wouldn’t need the parents to sue. The doctors and hospitals would sue to get paid even without suppling a Social Security card number for the patient, and school districts and whatnot.
They are also thinking of using expedited removal for anyone who has been in the country less than two years. (Why stop at two years? Do they think judges will recoil at anything more?)
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 10:58 am2d. To encourage truthful answers, they are told there will be NO consequences to them of gibing any answer. (because they tell them nobody involved with immigration will be informed.)
his is clearly for collecting statistics. It could eb for making political or legal financial claims on the federal government..
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:00 amRip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 10:56 am
And that would be real judge made law.
You’d have to investigate going back generations because it would not be established that the parents were truly citizens unless you trace ancestry back to before 1882 when some immigration became illegal.
Congress would have to set this straight, and they’d legalize the Dreamers and others at the same time. Or else no bill would pass.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:05 amMore sorrow in Nevertrumpland.
His prospects weren’t helped by a ringing endorsement from Andrew McCabe.
lloyd (61689e) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:08 amJennifer Rubin, who still hasn’t resigned, is busy putting the Nevertrump brand out there.
Washington Post Columnist: ‘Republicans Want to Kill Your Kids’
lloyd (61689e) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:17 amKamala Asks Biden To Stop Doing Trump Dance In Cabinet Meetings.
lloyd (61689e) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:21 amMatt Gaetz was still proceeding with confirmation on Wednesday.
What caused his sudden withdrawal on Thursday morning was being presented with a whip count by some Senator(s) and a conversation with Donald Trump.
https://nypost.com/2024/11/21/us-news/matt-gaetz-withdraws-from-attorney-general-consideration
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/us/politics/matt-gaetz-withdraws-trump-attorney-general.html
It would not be clear whose decision this actually was, but both Gaetz and Trump probably mutually agreed on statements.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:41 amI think determining the (illegal) immigration status of the parents (or patients) should be fairly easy, it’s being done in Florida and Texas right now. They’re just not reporting the information to immigration authorities.
CA’s Prop 187 (1994) attempted to do this kind of thing but was squelched by the federal courts. To be fair, Governor Gray Davis refused to defend it in the courts. Davis was later recalled.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 11/22/2024 @ 11:42 amWong Kim Ark itself is “judge-made law.” Why would you need to “trace their ancestry”? It should be pretty easy to determine if people are here illegally. They wouldn’t have US birth certificates, naturalization documents, or legal Social Security numbers.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 1:35 pmLOL!
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 1:36 pmStrike two:
First, Trump calls Putin and warns him not to escalate his war in Ukraine (a call the Russians have said is “pure fiction”), followed by a Russian missile attack on Dnipro; now this:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 1:59 pmJilted again.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/22/2024 @ 2:00 pm