Weekend Open Thread
[guest post by Dana]
Let’s go!
First news item]
Sarah Longwell on the impact of Donald Trump’s false claims about FEMA, including saying that FEMA is confiscating properties, FEMA money diverted to illegal migrants. Republican members of Congress have joined in as well:
I mean, here’s what Trump does. In a moment like this, when normal politicians would be, because of the very real consequences, they would be looking to unite people, right? Not to divide them. That’s not how Donald Trump thinks.
Donald Trump only cares about winning. And so he is utilizing this disaster, this natural disaster, which cannot be, you know, engineered by anybody, as some people are saying, because as Republicans are now having to reassure people, one cannot engineer the weather. Democrats are not engineering these storms for some reason or other pernicious influences.
But these Republicans who constantly support Trump are forced now to grapple with the very real consequences of his lies on their constituents at a moment when they are trying to help people see this is the thing is, oftentimes Donald Trump’s lies don’t have a personal consequence for the people who repeat them. You know, like the election being stolen or migrants eating pets in Springfield. But they have real consequences for somebody. And when those consequences affect you, as they are now, the Republican leaders on the ground were having to deal with the consequences of them. I feel like this should be the moment that they realize this is why this person can never lead the country again.
And one of the things that Donald Trump does, it’s a very specific tactic from Trump, where what he does is he elevates the notion of scarcity at a time when people are frightened. Right. So people are much more likely to buy into these conspiracies because they are suffering at the moment. Right. They don’t have wi-fi. They don’t have water. You know, they are dealing with a response to a natural disaster. And so they’re scared.
And Donald Trump manipulates and uses that fear to sow distrust for the agencies that are trying to help them. And that is unique to Trump’s character. Other politicians, even ones that aren’t very good at their jobs, don’t usually do this because they are at least decent enough people to understand that real lives are at stake.
Unfortunately, these false claims are having real life impacts to those who have lost everything during Hurricane Helene:
. . . Anthony said his father-in-law is unwilling to accept assistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
“He has refused all FEMA help because he’s a hardcore Trumper,” Anthony told Abrams. “He literally believes that if he accepts anything from FEMA, they’re going to take his house.”
BREAKING: In a powerful moment, Governor Ron DeSantis just fact checked Donald Trump by making it clear President Biden and Vice President Harris have provided Florida with all the resources it needs to fight against Hurricane Helene and Milton. pic.twitter.com/eTKAXHuDN0
— Kamala’s Wins (@harris_wins) October 10, 2024
Second news item
The truth is, it’s getting harder to describe the extent to which a meaningful percentage of Americans have dissociated from reality. As Hurricane Milton churned across the Gulf of Mexico last night, I saw an onslaught of outright conspiracy theorizing and utter nonsense racking up millions of views across the internet. The posts would be laughable if they weren’t taken by many people as gospel. Among them: Infowars’ Alex Jones, who claimed that Hurricanes Milton and Helene were “weather weapons” unleashed on the East Coast by the U.S. government, and “truth seeker” accounts on X that posted photos of condensation trails in the sky to baselessly allege that the government was “spraying Florida ahead of Hurricane Milton” in order to ensure maximum rainfall, “just like they did over Asheville!”
. . .
Even in a decade marred by online grifters, shameless politicians, and an alternative right-wing-media complex pushing anti-science fringe theories, the events of the past few weeks stand out for their depravity and nihilism. As two catastrophic storms upended American cities, a patchwork network of influencers and fake-news peddlers have done their best to sow distrust, stoke resentment, and interfere with relief efforts. But this is more than just a misinformation crisis. To watch as real information is overwhelmed by crank theories and public servants battle death threats is to confront two alarming facts: first, that a durable ecosystem exists to ensconce citizens in an alternate reality, and second, that the people consuming and amplifying those lies are not helpless dupes but willing participants.
Third news item
The times Kamala Harris changed her mind on issues:
Where Harris is on the ideological spectrum has long been hard to pinpoint. After Joe Biden selected her as his running mate in 2020, she moved toward the center on some issues, and has generally kept those positions since taking Biden’s place atop the ticket in this year’s election.
Harris has not explained many of her shifts. They may help her among moderate voters in the general election, but they have left her open to criticism from the right.
Some of the issues listed that she has changed her mind on: fracking, border security, healthcare, defunding.
Read the whole thing to see her Before and After views.
Fourth news item
ABC’s The View hosts in explicit political ad:
ABC warned its audience before airing a disturbing political ad the network said it was required to broadcast during a live episode of The View, with the commercial depicting graphic imagery from abortions and comparing several celebrities — including all six cohosts of The View — to Nazis.
During the show’s final commercial break on Thursday, a warning message appeared on screen, reading, “The following is a paid political advertisement, and the ABC Television Network is required to carry it by federal law. The advertisement contains scenes that may be disturbing to children. Viewer discretion is advised.”
The explicit clip — fronted by presidential candidate and anti-abortion activist Randall Terry — opened with a shot of Miley Cyrus (pictured with a cake topped with the message “abortion is healthcare”) and an image of Whoopi Goldberg seated at The View Hot Topics table.
“I am so sick of stupid celebrities and lying journalists,” Terry says via voice-over in the ad, before its footage displays images of View stars Joy Behar, Sunny Hostin, Ana Navarro, Sara Haines, and Alyssa Farah Griffin; broadcasters Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer, and Dana Bash; and famous figures like Oprah Winfrey, Taylor Swift, Samuel L. Jackson, Chris Evans, Billie Eilish, Scarlett Johansson, and more. The commercial then shows multiple images of fetuses and, later, images of abortion procedures. “Why don’t you fools follow the science?” Terry asks.
Fourth news item
President Zelensky meets with German Chancellor Olaf Schulz:
During a joint press conference, Scholz revealed that Germany had delivered a package of aid for Ukraine worth 600 million euros ($660 million). This included a fifth IRIS-T medium-range system, armored vehicles, tanks, howitzers, ammunition, and drones.
“By the end of the year, with the support of partners — Belgium, Denmark, Norway — we will deliver another package worth 1.4 billion euros ($1.5 billion) to Ukraine,” Scholz said. It will include IRIS-T, Skynex, and Gepard anti-aircraft weaponry, as well as artillery, armored vehicles, drones, radars, and ammunition.
Fifth news item
Speaker Johnson ready to give up on Ukraine:
“I don’t have an appetite for further Ukraine funding, and I hope it’s not necessary. If President Trump wins, I believe that he actually can bring that conflict to a close. I really do. I think he’ll call [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and tell him that this is enough. And I think everybody around the world is weary of this, and they want it to be resolved. So whatever the terms are, I’m not sure, but I think if Kamala Harris is president, I don’t think it ends, and that’s a desperate and dangerous scenario.”
What would be desperate and dangerous is a Trump administration refusing to provide critical aid to Ukraine during the middle of a ferocious war against a murderous enemy that doesn’t embrace democracy. A limited view of outcomes would be detrimental to Europe and freedom-loving countries everywhere. To just end the war because we’re weary is foolish, especially as it would most likely include allowing Russia to keep the territories inside Ukraine that they have subsumed as their own. This must not happen.
Sixth news item
Word:
How nauseatingly comfortable and safe do you have to be in the West to celebrate, justify, qualify terrorism in the Middle East
Have a great weekend.
—Dana
Hello.
Dana (6f85d2) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:43 amLast link broken
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:54 amEvery time I get the idea that maybe, just maybe, I could vote for Donald Trump, out comes another flood of crazy and I remember why, as much as I dislike Harris, her Fellow Travelers and Useful Idiots, Donald Trump is another class of danger entirely.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:56 amThe funny thing is that, while I am correct in pointing out that J6 isn’t decisive in most people’s thinking, Trump manages to top that issue on a daily basis.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:59 amTrump was correct about FEMA diverting money. I don’t know how anyone can claim otherwise. They also have billions squirreled away from former disasters that they haven’t closed the books on.
Must be nice to have a neverending government slush find.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:06 amTrump was correct about FEMA diverting money.
Show us!
I don’t know how anyone can claim otherwise.
They’re sane?
It was TRUMP who diverted FEMA money! https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/donald-trump/trump-administration-diverted-fema-disaster-funds-immigration-ice-fact-check/536-814bb634-4d14-4463-a77f-b2f304320d33
nk (50fc6a) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:15 amNonsense. DeSantis didn’t say anything like that. Nor did he mention Harris once. It’s funny how the Kamala partisans were attacking DeSantis yesterday and are touting him today, in both instances lying about what he said and did.
I’m not going to transcribe the quote from the video. Listen to it yourself.
lloyd (ea3858) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:15 amFEMA’s devoted $641 million this year just to help state and local governments handle the influx.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:16 amhttps://www.fema.gov/grants/mitigation/state-local-territorial-governments
And here is FEMA in the Biden-Harris administration’s own words on their priorities.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:17 amNo, he wasn’t, he lied.
Paul Montagu (a0b412) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:23 amThis was roundly fact-checked. That money was made available by an act of Congress, and not taken from FEMA.
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20240412/department-homeland-security-announces-300-million-direct-funding
Lovely when they annouce a press release, but people blinded by partisanship will continue to believe lies if it supports their agenda.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:23 amThat’s right, Rob, it’s actually DHS money, not FEMA’s, but administered by FEMA.
Paul Montagu (a0b412) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:25 amPaul pretending money isn’t fungible. FEMA was broke according to Mayorkas. They prioritized funding illegals. That is what was said.
Counting the angels on the head of a pin doesn’t change the truth and trying to parse the truth into a lie doesn’t change the facts.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:25 amNeverTrump will keep spinning as Trump is reelected.
Enjoy it.
NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:27 amAnd Rob will dismiss anything that contradicts his myopic worldview as “leftist sources”. Moving on. You’ve been fact-checked.
Paul Montagu (a0b412) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:30 amNotice you don’t hear from Nevertrump “Appropriating $1billion to deal with the Biden Harris migrant mess would’ve been better directed to disaster relief for US citizens.” Instead, you hear “That’s a different appropriation, so it’s all good. Give Mayorkas more money.”
lloyd (ea3858) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:37 amThe reality is that this government is doling out billions, and needy Americans are moved to the back of the line. And, if this administration and its defenders ever had a problem with it, no one could possibly tell.
lloyd (ea3858) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:41 amLloyd: (#7)
I am not sure what role Harris is playing in the Hurricane response, or why she would be involved. Unlike a lot of my fellow anti-Trumps, I don’t have a problem with DeSantis not taking the Kamela hurricane call. (Joe’s the guy in charge and Ron was kind of busy fr a social call.). That said, Trump is his usual despicable on this issue. And DeSantis did contradict Trump on whether politics is having a role in FEMA response.
Appalled (d53a96) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:03 am#16
The one thing you never hear from the GOP. “Let’s call Congress back in session so that we can increase FEMA funding for the year.” (Biden has the power to call Congress into session — wonder is he will make use of it.)
Appalled (45b67d) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:07 amWould Russia settle for that, and the rest of Ukraine being defended by NATO>
Trump’s model is the ending of the Korean War by Eisenhower.
What does he propose to do if that doesn’t work? Eisenhower, it is reported, threatened to escalate and use a dirty bomb.
Eisenhower is also his model on immigration — if we’re lucky. (Eisenhower isn’t so well known for this, but it happened while under Truman I think there was an amnesty in 1948)
https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation
People were contacted and told they had 3 days to leave the country
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:17 amKatrina got pinned on Bush. Just as with government shutdowns, the rule with natural disasters and pandemics is that Republicans get blamed no matter who’s in the White House. But yeah, there’s a high road and Republicans suck because nobody takes it.
lloyd (ea3858) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:18 am43. NJRob (63ee2f) — 10/11/2024 @ 9:25 am
There was never any kind of committee vote to take money from disaster relief and transfer it to anything else or at least I haven’t heard any such claim.
Not even a test vote like Democrats make to raise taxes on high income people and use it to support veterans or whatever.
Disaster relief gets limited because Congress doesn’t want to appropriate in advance any more money than necessary.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:23 amUnless you are a US Senator running for reelection. Of course, calling the Senate back into session to approve more aid to FEMA is a waste of time if the House refuses to reconvene.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:29 amhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/follow-money-understanding-femas-disaster-budget-hurricane-milton-aftermath
It was Biden and Mayorkas’ lie that FEMA needed money now that caused Republicans to circulate the other lie that the money was spent on migrants.
The adversary method is not the path to the truth.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:37 amboth parties are telling serious lies: The Democrats about abortion law and the Republicans about illegal immigration (and a non-stolen election.)
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:40 amBut both Democrats and Republicans are ignoring the remedy:
https://freakonomics.com/2012/11/another-look-at-an-unorthodox-hurricane-prevention-idea
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:50 amWhat is she going to say?
I followed the advice of my political consultants who showed me polls?
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:55 amI don’t think Trump said that.
Maybe some guy on the radio said that.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 11:34 amFEMA is not Medicaid. I don’t think it comes with a clawback and only means tested help does. And then they
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 11:37 am> Wave action on the ocean surface would force warm surface water down into the deeper ocean. If non-return valves were used, he says, the result would be to mix the waters and cool the surface temperature of the ocean to under 26.5C, the critical temperature at which hurricanes form.
sounds like it has the potential to have a catastrophic effect on the things that live at that depth.
aphrael (cbf740) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:12 pmWSJ: When the Hurricane-Relief Worker Turns Out To Be a Neo-Nazi
Probably totally unrelated to any of Trump’s messaging.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:23 pmRegardless to whether the money was “diverted” away rather than toward, the fact remains that we had one hurricane and Mayorkas said FEMA was out of money. The larger point was that DHS and FEMA have plenty of money, its just not allocated to citizens, legal residents of the US who are experiencing financial hardships due to a natural disaster. FEMA says it does not give cash cards to migrants, but it does reimburse state and local entities who do. For example, NYC loads pre-paid cards for migrants and then applies to be reimbursed by the DHS through FEMA.
There is also the “Refugee Cash Assistance (RCA) program [which] helps eligible refugees and other humanitarian immigrants by providing cash assistance for up to twelve months from their arrival date in the United States”
So we have one hurricane and per Mayorkas, are said to be out of money. But we have this Biden Administration oversight of an ongoing self inflicted disaster at the border that is sucking up a lot of money. We have disaster relief $$ for Lebanon and Ukraine. Not arguing that we should not fund Ukrainian relief, but US legal residents and citizens should be prioritized and if funds are short, if I may, funds should be “diverted” to cover hurricane relief
steveg (292c87) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:25 pmOne of the sad bits here is that there are groups of similarly fit people like Team Rubicon, which tends to employ former soldiers, and is emphatically not a white supremacist group.
Among its supporters are Bill Clinton and George W Bush, and it has advisors like General Petraeus and senior executives from FedEx, GoldmanSachs and Farmers Group.
But in this sh1tstorm of disinformation, God only knows what gets hit with the tar.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:30 pmTo donate to Team Rubicon’s efforts in Florida and North Carolina, go here: https://teamrubiconusa.org/
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:34 pmsounds like it has the potential to have a catastrophic effect on the things that live at that depth.
The general problem with non-remedial geo-engineering is that it would allow destructive activity to continue. Then when the machine breaks, the piper show up.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:40 pmboth parties are telling serious lies: The Democrats about abortion law and the Republicans about illegal immigration.
There is some truth in those lies. You don’t have to believe that the bulk of the immigrants are rapists and murderers to still think it’s a huge mistake. You don’t have to believe that most abortions involve preemie infants to still think abortion on demand should be limited.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:43 pmIs Soros running his hurricane-making Jewish space laser thing again? I thought that Trump’s Space Force had destroyed that. Or maybe I was just watching “Moonraker” again.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 12:45 pm> The general problem with non-remedial geo-engineering is that it would allow destructive activity to continue.
I think the premise here is that it is politically impossible to achieve conditions in which the destructive activity (the release of greenhouse gases) is reduced by a substantial amount, so given that we can’t reduce the incidence of the destructive activity, we have to mitigate it.
I see absolutely no reason at this point to believe it is possible to reduce global greenhouse gas generation by a non-trivial amount. The history of attempts to get that to happen have revealed it to be an optimistic fantasy.
aphrael (cbf740) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:32 pmSammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:37 am
The right word came to me later.
It’s adversary system.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:34 pmWe’re $35 trillion in debt. That’s an annual shortfall of over $1.5T. We’ve crossed the 100% of GDP rubicon and interest on the debt is now outpacing defense.
Maybe we don’t need to increase funding. Maybe we need to re-allocate. (The $40 billion to connect rurals to the internet that connected exactly zero people would be a good start.)
SaveFarris (43bcd9) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:39 pmWhen did the Republicans start believing him? They just added to that lie by supplying a false reason to be out of money, Bidden just wanted to show Republicans unwilling to assemble in Washington and limit campaigning in order to help people.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:42 pmThe people who have space lasers are Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Richard Branson but they don’t do any harm on earth.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:45 pmThey just did it! In the continuing resolution,
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:47 pmThe abortion lie is that it is impossible to ban partial birth abortion without risking the lives of women in late stage of pregnancy, And that doctors have to choose between breaking the law and saving women’s lives. Obama said that. Maybe that is the legal advice they are getting from pro choice lawyers. I said they are like Hamas.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:53 pmFree speech? Not for everyone.
California officials reject more SpaceX rocket launches, with some citing Musk’s X posts
As I said the other day, there are many tyrants and the petty tyrants at the California Coastal Commission are among the worst. Musk exercises 1st Amendment rights and the Greenies who rule the CA coast will put him in his place. I guess they want to make Trump’s lies true.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 2:59 pmThere are, and always will be voting blocs (on both sides) that are deeply distrustful of Government. Of course they wonder if the government is stupid or malevolent enough to cloud seed a hurricane. Part of it is paranoia and well, the government lies to us 24/7. Then they lie about lying. Everyone involved seems to get a promotion or a golden parachute. They have very little regard for “the people” whom they can smell in the Walmart. They told us they did not cover a snipers perch of a roof in PA because it was a “sloped roof” even after someone pointed out that the pitch was less than what the ADA requires for wheelchair access. The WH Press Conference “spin room” (lies) is a daily event. C-span is a blizzard of lies. Might be best to proceed as if they are malevolent liars and then be pleasantly surprised by the truth.
Trump is a liar. Harris is a liar. Harris named Proposition 47 in CA that has led to an avalanche of unpunished recidivist crime the “Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act” I prefer Trump’s style of lying
steveg (292c87) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:03 pmHopefully Musk makes it his mission to dismantle the CA Coastal Commission and CA Air Resources Board (CARB) petty f-ing tyrants. Harris supports them. Her support of those entities and Trump’s antipathy for them make me choose Trump
steveg (292c87) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:06 pmI see absolutely no reason at this point to believe it is possible to reduce global greenhouse gas generation by a non-trivial amount.
The United States greenhouse gas emissions are 16% below the peak (2007-8), and 3% below 1990 levels. A transition to electric cars, which will happen over the next 20 years will have a great effect on this. China is forcing this transition domestically, although their electricity production still relies on coal.
Every time a coal plant is replaced by natural gas, CO2 production from that plant is halved. But environmentalists are at the forefront of kneecapping a transition to natural gas.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:08 pm> The United States greenhouse gas emissions are 16% below the peak (2007-8), and 3% below 1990 levels.
The *United States* is, yes. But *globally*, no, and there are no effective political structures for coordinating global change here.
aphrael (9c2ac5) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:26 pmThe *United States* is, yes. But *globally*, no, and there are no effective political structures for coordinating global change here.
aphrael (9c2ac5) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:26 pm
Correct. The UN is an exercise in herding cats.
A one-world dictatorship could get it done, but there would be downsides.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:32 pmGood work by the Justice Department:
If, perhaps, a little slow, judging by how long this took.
Some background. The list of the bank’s sponsorships will impress some.
Jim Miller (39abee) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:38 pmWhat norcal said.
But it isn’t hopeless.
If there is broad agreement, however, among the US, EU and China — and there are workable methods of bringing down CO2 production — then the standard carrot-and-stick approach works.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:38 pmBTW, if the US, EU and China transition to electric cars, so does everyone else by Hobson’s choise.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:41 pmMy across the street neighbors, who are good friends of mine, have put up a Trump sign in their yard. I’m tempted to put up my own Harris sign, but I fear it will put a chill on our friendship.
What should I do? Is a Harris sign on my non-busy, residential street, really going to change anybody’s mind? There is already a huge, gay, Harris sign a couple of doors down. (I don’t have anything against gay people, but I can see how that sign could backfire.)
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 3:46 pmHere’s some basic data on CO2 emission trends.
For the record: My own thinking on this subject has been informed by two books, Shellengerger’s Apocalypse Never and Koonin’s Unsettled.
Jim Miller (39abee) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:00 pmcorrection: Shellenberger
Jim Miller (39abee) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:03 pmCorrection: choice.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:17 pmThere were people who hate DeSantis saying he was charging toll fees on Milton evacuation routes, but it is true that Waffle House has its own Storm Weather Center and you can tell how bad local damage is by the menu. Green = full menu Yellow = some items not available Red = Closed. FEMA and State of FLA, liaison with Waffle House
steveg (292c87) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:24 pmI won’t eat at the Waffle House. They use margarine. Gross. And unhealthy.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:27 pmMaybe you can put up an ”It’s packed with some stuff! HA HA HA HA!” sign to compete with gays, norcal.
BuDuh (6115f4) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:30 pmCorporate establishment democrats in panic mode! Making 6 figure Jill Stein attack ads buy to tell voters what they already know a vote for Jill Stein is a vote against the donor class and the D.N.C. establishment. Jill Stein says thanks for the publicity we can’t afford ad buys as we don’t have much money ;but neither did AOC! 2016 trump wins michigan by 10,000 votes Stein gets 50,000 votes. Trump wins pennsylvania by 43,000 votes Stein gets 50,000 votes. Trump wins wisconsin by 22,000 votes jill stein gets 36,000 votes. In 2016 Stein got 36,000 votes in az democrats kept green party off ballot in 2020 with biden winning state by 10,000.
asset (565389) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:40 pmJill Stein says thanks for the publicity we can’t afford ad buys as we don’t have much money ;but neither did AOC!
asset (565389) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:40 pm
Apples and watermelons. A national election is 435 times bigger than an election for a House seat.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:43 pmBuDuh (6115f4) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:30 pm
Meh. Both candidates commit word salad.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:48 pmBarack Obama at his absolute worst:
After eight years of Donald Trump and Joe Biden, I am trying to find things to like about Barack Obama. At the very least, he was miles ahead of both men in intellect and temperament. But this is the kind of bullcrap that I hate the most about Obama: the smug preening, the attempt to place his fairly posh and comfortable life experiences within the traditions of black struggle, his annoying predilection of lecturing everyone for not being as enlightened and pure as he is. I’m a white guy — but of course I am also a noted feminist, I must say — so I don’t have any real standing to take offense on behalf of black men. But I can certainly understand why they may look at someone like Kamala Harris and see a conniving, performative, duplicitous phony. In many respects, I guess that’s why Barack Obama likes her — birds of a feather and all that.
JVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:56 pm@62 Jill Stein wins if she takes votes from corporate democrats and in latest polling she is leading vote getter among both muslims and other arabs in swing states AZ, MI, PA. and WI. (usa today) Ask not president hillary clinton if its apples and watermelons. You don’t have to win to make someone lose. If she causes kamala to lose green party will have devastating effect on the democrat party.
asset (565389) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:57 pmAs I have said before, the SS should be replaced by military special operations personnel, such as Navy SEALS, the Army’s Delta Force, or the Marine Raiders.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:00 pmJVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 4:56 pm
It does seem that Obama got an extra helping of self-esteem while growing up.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:06 pmThe jumped-up bellboy always has his hand out palm up.
How much of this is going to be diverted from FEMA funds?
nk (50fc6a) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:07 pmOn the subject of the gender gap which irks Barack Obama to no end, this is absolutely incredible. It’s almost too good to be true, and I confess that I am passing this along without checking it, but here is a tweet sent out in response to the new Harris/Walz ad where “everyday manly men” talk about why they are going to vote for the Democrat ticket:
Absolutely insane that they believe they can fool the American public like this, but that’s just how the Dems roll.
JVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:10 pmHere’s the full text to Bad Hombre’s tweet for those of you who don’t want to venture over to Twitter:
JVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:11 pmJVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:11 pm
I wonder if there is fine print at the bottom of the screen stating they are actors.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:21 pmI wonder if there is fine print at the bottom of the screen stating they are actors.
Well, so are Harris, Walz, Trump, Vance, and the rest of them. Certainly Barack Obama was even more of an actor than Ronald Reagan ever dreamt of being.
JVW (ae22d9) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:27 pmGood grief. It was a separate tranche of money. Congress doesn’t do “fungible” on appropriations. This is ignorance on hyperpartisan overdrive.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:30 pmfm
How is that, Sammy? What “model”?
We never fought in Ukraine. We wouldn’t have US soldiers in a Russian-Ukraine demilitarized zone to keep the peace.
I doubt Trump even has a concept of a plan for a Russia-Ukraine armistice, and I’ve never heard him offer any particulars. I doubt he has any to offer, other than forcing a Ukrainian surrender in a one-sided deal that gives Putin what he wants.
Regarding Operation Wetback, Trump did refer to it in 2015, not by name but by referring to Eisenhower but, as usual, Trump doesn’t understand history, he makes up his own FakeHistory.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:54 pmTrump will end the war in Ukraine by making Zelensky an offer he can’t refuse.
norcal (fd38eb) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:56 pm‘Now Is Not The Time For Independent Thinking,’ Obama Tells Black Trump Supporters.
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/11/2024 @ 5:58 pmI couldn’t stop watching this conflict. There is a subset of cyclists out there who act like entitled assholes.
Paul Montagu (694e07) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:24 pmA generic Harris sign? Unlikely. But I could imagine a “Conservative for Harris” or even better, “CBP Agent for Harris” sign giving a fence-sitter, especially a neighbor who knows and respects you, permission to take the leap. Not that I would expect the Harris campaign to have such signs, but if you called the local office and told them you’d plant the sign if they made it for you, who knows?
lurker (c23034) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:31 pmMy plan moves forward.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:37 pm“FEMA agent for Harris”
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:37 pmTrump campaign asks for military aircraft with antimissile capabilities and other security measures in lead-up to election
“oops”
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:41 pmHere’s the perfect song for a Trump event. Random words, but good melody and beat.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:55 pm@69 JVW Collapse of the democrat corporate establishment and D.N.C. who have no answer for black men who they took for granted.
asset (0f3860) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:57 pmDo you think that subset is a smaller percentage than the subset of Trump 2020 voters that were indicted for Jan 6 actions?
BuDuh (6115f4) — 10/11/2024 @ 7:58 pmThe Los Angeles Dodgers are returning to the National League Championship Series for the first time since 2021:
Rip Murdock (615377) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:03 pmMy plan is for a Dodgers-Yankees World Series. It would be the 12 meeting of the teams there, more than any other pairing. The Yankees have won 8 of them, including the first 5.
The classic October Classic.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:07 pmTrump was a member of the Screen Actors Guild and American Federation of Radio and Television Artists before he resigned rather than face expulsion over his actions on January 6th. Apparently he still receives a six figure pension from the unions.
Rip Murdock (615377) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:15 pmProbably won’t happen-the Dodgers pitching hanging by a thread (or ligament); one more pitcher injury and they’re done.
Rip Murdock (615377) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:21 pm@64
This… all of this.
I will never forgive Obama for lighting the race relation “wars” and how “wokeness” was fueled by that man.
He’s a radical who adeptly was able to package progressiveness into something possibly palpable. That made him so dangerous.
whembly (f7d883) — 10/11/2024 @ 8:36 pmProbably won’t happen-the Dodgers pitching hanging by a thread (or ligament); one more pitcher injury and they’re done.
Everyone has hurt pitchers. The TJ thing is epidemic the way clubs push their pitchers to their limits.
And the Dodger pitchers have at least stopped beating their wives.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:25 pmTrump was a member of the Screen Actors Guild and American Federation of Radio and Television Artists before he resigned rather than face expulsion over his actions on January 6th
“Conduct unbecoming an actor”, as if there is such a thing.
(“You could smoke dope and end up going steady with your afghan, and you’re just one of the gang.”)
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:28 pm–S.O.B. (1981)
I don’t think they ever expelled OJ.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/11/2024 @ 10:31 pmFrom Obama’s Pittsburgh stop:
In 2008 Obama received 372,474 votes in Allegheny County. In 2012 he received 352,687 votes. In 2020 Biden received 430,759 votes.
It seems the brothers prefer Biden‘s campaign style. Obama is just not the dynamic adept politician that Biden is.
Biden need to go and rally the voters like he did in 2020.
BuDuh (6115f4) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:32 amI am less interested in celebrities than many, but even I knew about Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein before the law caught up with them.
Which makes me wonder — did most people in his business know about Sean Combs? Did some even approve?
Jim Miller (90f884) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:56 amFor those like me who were unfamiliar with Combs.
Jim Miller (90f884) — 10/12/2024 @ 4:00 amI am surprised that at least one of Paul’s dozens of Trump Feeds didn’t go Five Alarm🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨on the Orange Baboon’s latest atrocity. The narcissist stops his so called “rally,” (we know it is just sycophants, toadies, and Nazis), to go off on a woman and her infant. It is difficult to watch this sick monster.
BuDuh (6115f4) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:02 amThe WHOLE story:
nk (6c45b4) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:36 amTrump: ‘Get That Baby Out Of Here’
Funny how troll trolls someone about feeds, yet his feeds to him to a hack by the name of johnny maga. Oh the irony.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:44 amAnd speaking of the X, this one is about how Trump’s economic policies are worse than Kamala on our national debt and inflation.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:48 amIf you really thought I was trolling, Paul, you would not bite on the links. Haha.
BuDuh (6115f4) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:52 amAs they say, mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 8:15 amSpeaking of feeds, here’s yet another person who served under Trump who’s warning America about Trump.
The bigger CBS scandal wasn’t 60 Minutes editing of the Kamala interview, it was management’s reaction to Dokoupil’s questioning Te-Nehisi* Coates on his one-side anti-Israel screed, claiming that his questions fell short of “editorial standards”, which says more about the left-wing culture in the CBS newsroom than about Dokoupil.
This was well discussed on The Dispatch podcast, where Kevin Williamson had some choice words about Coates (it sounded like Coates played a key role in bouncing Williamson out of The Atlantic).
From the X feed, Aizenberg has a good breakdown of Coates’ blatant lies and antisemitism and terrorism apologia.
* I’m pronouncing his first name as Tennessee, because I’ve heard different people pronounce it different ways, and Tennessee Coates sounds better.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 9:20 amThe bubble media putting their thumb on the scales as usual.
Ex-CBS News reporter says there’s ‘precedent’ for releasing full interview transcript — when it came to Donald Trump
lloyd (b89152) — 10/12/2024 @ 9:47 amColin Allred calls Cruz a liar, and blatantly lies while doing it
lloyd (b89152) — 10/12/2024 @ 9:53 amColin Allred is also running ads saying up front “I’m running to be the first Black Senator from Texas.” Making it about race probably attracts some voters, and alienates many more.
lloyd (b89152) — 10/12/2024 @ 9:56 amMore on Dokoupil-Coates here. Byers noted how 60 Minutes fell short of editorial standards.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:08 amSo no separating tranches when it comes to scandals? “Hey, look at this ‘bigger’ scandal that has nothing to do with the scandal that is incredibly severe.”
BuDuh (0d586b) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:33 amThe “bigger” scandal has no election impact. It just further indicates to what lengths bubble media will push their bias.
lloyd (b89152) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:38 amMore from The Feed…Trump’s speech in CO yesterday was riddled with lies, racism and fascism. Yay, Donnie.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 11:04 amWhat could possibly go wrong?
Rip Murdock (fec955) — 10/12/2024 @ 11:34 amThat latest Musk story reminds me — a bit — of the original Star Trek “I, Mudd” story.
Jim Miller (5746f5) — 10/12/2024 @ 12:17 pmExactly. 😏
Rip Murdock (fec955) — 10/12/2024 @ 12:20 pmMore incoherence by Trump from The Feed, twice asked the question but couldn’t answer, just bullsh-tted. If he wins, it’ll be dementia and gish-galloping on a daily basis.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 12:48 pmBTW, Trump lied that he’s the only businessman to be prez. There were six others.
Unfit.
It also reminds me of a 2012 film called Robot & Frank, which stars Frank Langella as an aging ex-con (also named Frank), who is given a personal care robot by his son (who is tired of his weekly visits with his father). It turns out that the robot’s programming doesn’t distinguish between right and wrong, so the robot is roped into committing burglaries with Frank.
Rip Murdock (fec955) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:03 pm@114 Paul, there wasn’t a question. There was a declarative statement to which Trump responded directly with “I agree.” And, “Let’s start with the criminals” to which the interviewer said “I agree.” You’re just bullsh_tting. If Mark Cuban has a direct answer to those “questions”, I’ve yet to hear it. But, he’s not running for anything — taking shots from the gallery while Trump puts himself in front of assassins bullets. The guy who distributed “Loose Change” 911 truther movie is high class.
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:10 pmHe asked it, lloyd…”Maybe we can open our hearts to people who are trying to be good hard working Americans”? Then he tried to get Trump back on track, but didn’t happen.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:22 pmTrump’s response was dementia and gish-galloping pulled straight from his ass. That’s your guy, lloyd, and it’s only going to get worse, because he’s 78 and he can’t hold a thought together for more than a few seconds.
@117 Yeah Paul, you were way out in front of the Biden dementia news, three years after everyone else knew. For how many years did Biden’s gish-galloping not move the needle for you? Just like Kamala’s incoherence doesn’t bother you now. Suddenly dementia and age are huge issues for you. But you think both candidates suck, right?
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:34 pmBut just six months ago, the mogul warned a robot uprising could be imminent as he claimed AI will outsmart mankind by as early as the end of next year.
Cylons.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:47 pmOr, here, way back in 1947
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 1:48 pmFor Paul’s benefit, here are some direct questions about the border mess and a lot of gish-galloping in response that even heavy editing by CBS couldn’t hide.
‘You Have Changed’: Harris Faces Brutal Grilling On Flip-Flops, Border Crisis In 60 Minutes Interview
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:09 pmWhere do Democratic and Republican campaigns spend their food money? Sadly, it is even more polarized than I would have guessed, with Democrats flocking to Starbucks, and Republicans to McDonald’s.
(FWIW, I’m not a big fan of either.)
One bright spot: Costo seems about equally popular with both.
Jim Miller (45004b) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:23 pmcorrection: Costco
Jim Miller (45004b) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:35 pmShots fired into democrat office in tempe az. for third time closes to protect workers. (DU)
asset (294792) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:46 pmI’ve never thought of Starbucks as a food place, though I know they have food there. Apparently, enviro preaching Democrats like waiting in a drive thru with the car idling just to get an overpriced cup of coffee and snack.
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:47 pmReminder: Those who follow the Loser are likely to lose their money, their health, or even their freedom. Another example from the Gateway Pundit:
I haven’t followed him for years, but when I did, Jim Hoft struck me as insufficiently skeptical.
Jim Miller (45004b) — 10/12/2024 @ 2:48 pmUS attempts to leak Israeli attack plans, but is hampered in that Israel isn’t sharing them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-officials-israel-iran-strikes-targets-rcna175140
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:33 pmThe Gateway Pundit is crazier than Infowars.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:34 pmApparently, enviro preaching Democrats like waiting in a drive thru with the car idling just to get an overpriced cup of coffee and snack.
In my car, a hybrid, there is no CO2 emitted until I push the accelerator hard, which I hardly ever do in a drive-thru line.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:36 pmI’ve never thought of Starbucks as a food place,
Me neither, but I’ve also never thought of McDonald’s as a coffee place.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:37 pmSuddenly dementia and age are huge issues for you.
I’ve been saying both have issues since 2020. Biden has classic dementia, with Trump it’s Alzheimer’s.
FOr those that need a reference, check out this old guy as he LEFT office.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:42 pmOuch.
lloyd (3b3922) — 10/12/2024 @ 3:45 pmStarbucks and food: Some years ago, I wandered into a Starbucks shortly after I had read a description of what was served on a US WW II carrier, on a day a battle was expected:
doughnuts
sandwiches
coffee
The Starbucks was serving:
sweet rolls
sandwiches
coffee
I found the similarity more interesting than the Starbucks employees did.
Jim Miller (f18fce) — 10/12/2024 @ 4:30 pmIran to gulf states: butt out or you’re next:
Rip Murdock (fec955) — 10/12/2024 @ 5:04 pmWhat’s the difference, doctor?
Rip Murdock (fec955) — 10/12/2024 @ 5:05 pmTrump has always been a bad seed with a foul mouth unconnected to any sense or sensibility, and as he sees what little future he had remaining to begin with being decided in 23 days, he is letting all his vileness and depravity have free rein.
It does resemble mental disease or defect but it is an innate characteristic perhaps exacerbated but not caused by the ravages of old age that normally afflict people.
nk (29d674) — 10/12/2024 @ 5:35 pmI’ve always said he was too old and shouldn’t run for reelection. His crap performance in the last debate only confirmed my opinion. I agreed with George Will 11 months ago on that very thing. Meantime, you’re supporting this Trumpian mental illness and mental decline, unreservedly. The hypocrite ain’t me, lloyd.
I’ll also note that your bogus equivalency–and it’s amazing how often you Trump water carriers engage in bogus equivalencies–between the occasional incoherence of the Dem candidate and constant argle bargle from your deranged nominee. It’s really something, the denial of it all.
And let’s be clear on who the real gish galloper is, because words mean things, and it’s your Orange Manchild and no one else.
Sad, lloyd, that you still don’t comprehend that Criticism of Party A ≠ Defense of Party B, and the fact is that I’m not voting for Party B.
You won’t find anywhere my support for Biden’s or Harris’ suckass border policy, but you would’ve heard me say more than once Mayorkas should be sacked for his incompetence.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 5:53 pm@137
Trump is out doing interviews and speaking off the cuff at rallies nearly every day, providing fodder for your out of context snippets. Your gal Kamala is bubbled wrapped in the china cabinet, doing only the most friendly heavily edited interviews every full moon. The nonsense per word spoken isn’t even close.
And, oh yeah, the buck stops with Mayorkas LOL
lloyd (65a7d5) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:13 pmYour gal Kamala is bubbled wrapped in the china cabinet, doing only the most friendly heavily edited interviews every full moon. The nonsense per word spoken isn’t even close.
And, oh yeah, the buck stops with Mayorkas LOL
lloyd (65a7d5) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:13 pm
This is how you get called a troll.
Paul already told you he’s not a Kamala supporter, yet you state “Your gal Kamala”.
Then, instead of finding agreement on the appropriateness of firing Mayorkas, you go into mocking mode.
norcal (7e490d) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:20 pmlloyd, I haven’t taken anything out of context, and I’ve provided the links. I don’t know why you keep making sh-t up in defense of insanity.
The irony here is Trump pizda’d out on a 2nd debate and 60 Minutes, and his only interviews are with right-wingers, in safe territory, taking safe softball questions, and he still can barely speak longer than a sentence on actual policy before veering off onto Eisenhower or circles or rockets or whatever random thought pops into his dementia’d head.
And today, the next raft of lies is coming from Coachella, which should’ve stayed a concert venue.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:24 pmI don’t know that this is true. Does a person with narcissistic personality disorder actually believe what their saying from moment to moment?
Trump’s always been stupid, now he’s stupid with a mental defect surrounded by exactly the wrong people.
Oh, and the excuse that Biden is senile so Trump’s senile is fine seems to be a moronic argument. Plus, he’s a loon, seems to be the mostest riskiest terriblest idea. But own the libs, lolz.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:27 pmnorcal, I’ve been called a sock puppet and a Putin stooge here, among other things. Paul’s a big boy. He likely doesn’t need your highly selective defense. And I stopped believing what people here self identify as a long time ago. You are as you comment.
lloyd (65a7d5) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:30 pm6 months ago:
Oh…
BuDuh (aad567) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:30 pm@140
Trump did two debates, as he had agreed to do way back in May. Biden’s people choose the dates, format, network, everything — and Trump went along with it all. The Democrats getting buyer’s remorse in July doesn’t mean Trump has to accommodate them yet again.
Trump and Vance have done countless interviews with unfriendly reporters. Vance just did one with NBC. We have yet to see Kamala do one single unfriendly debate or news conference. Sorry, the debate with two other Democrats running interference for her doesn’t count.
lloyd (65a7d5) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:42 pmFrom the same 6 month old link:
BuDuh (aad567) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:51 pmBy the way, I once had the opportunity to listen to Mr Gish present his theories, at my STEM alma mater. I have to give him credit for walking into the lion’s den like that, not that it saved him.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 6:59 pmTrump has always been a braggart and a BS artist. Always wanting to look more knowledgeable than he is. So he makes up stuff, lies, and spouts gibberish straight-faced in your face.
It’s nothing recent. I remember when Tom Wolfe’s Bonfire Of The Vanities was “news”. Trump was on a TV talk show pretending to have it read it when it was painfully obvious that he had not. The host and the other guests were visibly cringing but the show had to go on.
Is there a treatment for his condition? I don’t know. Maybe an injection with some kind of disinfectant or ultraviolet light?
nk (7c2843) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:03 pmDefend the pizda all you like, lloyd. As you said, you are as you comment.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:07 pmWhen you only attack one side, you support the other side.
I’ve known Paul when he went by other names. He’s a moby.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/12/2024 @ 7:59 pmExcept I don’t criticize just one side, Rob, evidenced right here in this thread, which is why you’re just another liar for MAGA. Y’all are defending a mentally ill and deranged candidate.
Paul Montagu (0e8283) — 10/12/2024 @ 9:56 pmStarship 5 to launch tomorrow morning.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:14 pmWe’ve had three choices:
Senile, Crazy and Evil. Evil looks like the best of them.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:16 pm2 things can be true at once, sometimes 3.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/12/2024 @ 10:28 pmHollywood libs don’t seem to be saying they will move to canada if trump is elected this time. Afraid might send a moving van to their house.
asset (9bc8e0) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:35 amBy the process of elimination I’m guessing you mean Biden, Trump and Harris, in that order. About Biden I agree, but after that you lose me. IMO Trump is all three, and Harris, for all her faults, is none of them. She’s an unlikable, pandering midwit with awful left-wing policies (except Ukraine), but that doesn’t make her evil.
lurker (c23034) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:57 amTrump, on the other hand, is a virtual cartoon-villain. If you lab-assembled the most noxious bits of our most malign presidents, Jackson, Johnson, Wilson, LBJ, Nixon, Clinton… the resulting monstrosity would still only be a pale approximation of Trump. In the annals of presidential malevolence, he’s a unicorn.
lurker (c23034) — 10/13/2024 @ 2:03 amIf harris loses what happens to democrat party? The left is sharpening their knives.
asset (9bc8e0) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:31 amLeftist policies destroy innovation, cause division and suffering. They are evil.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:25 amMaybe Paul and George Will talked about this 11 months ago as well.
BuDuh (4214e4) — 10/13/2024 @ 7:02 amSenile, crazy and evil is one choice, Trump. The other choice is liberal, misguided and soft.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:44 amThe mission was successful. Great video of the rocket being captured in mid-air.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:53 amThe real show starts at T+6.00
As an engineer, I am f-ing impressed.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:00 amThe other choice is liberal, misguided and soft.
Keep telling yourself that.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:01 amTrump, on the other hand, is a virtual cartoon-villain.
I have long said he is a Democrat-caricature of a Republican, sent by Bill Clinton to destroy the GOP. Like most golems, he is running amok.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:03 amU.S. Is Sending Antimissile System to Israel to Bolster Defenses Against Iran
Updates to follow as news develops.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:16 amI do, Kevin, because I’m not delusional, and because there’s actual history, i.e., presidents in 12 of the last 16 years are Democrats, and we’re not competing with Maduro for which country is most socialist.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:24 amBill Ackman
@BillAckman
Oct 11
A number of my good friends and family have been surprised about my decision to support @realDonaldTrump for president. They have been surprised because my political giving history has been mostly to Democrats, my voting registration has typically been Democrat (in NY, you must be registered to the party in order to vote in the primary, and usually the Republican candidate has no chance to win), and many of our philanthropic initiatives have supported issues that are consistent with Democratic priorities.
All of the above said, I have always considered myself to be a centrist and/or moderate, and I have voted for the candidate and supported the issues and policies that I believe are in the best interest of the country. Some have accused me of supporting Trump because doing so will somehow benefit me financially. Fortunately, I do not need any financial benefits as I and my family have well more than we need. I have also committed to give away the substantial majority of my resources at or by the time I am no longer, so I don’t consider personal financial benefits in the determination of whom I support for office.
Some have suggested that I am supporting Trump because I am seeking a position in his administration. To be clear, I haven’t been offered one and I wouldn’t take a job in the administration (I love my job and it is the wrong time in my life to work in an administration). I will, however, do everything else I can to help the president succeed in helping our country and its citizens.
All of the above said, I am an investor who manages funds that own some of the best, principally American, businesses in the world. In a better governed and managed America, these business will do better and increase in value faster. One might therefore argue that being ‘long’ America is somehow a conflict, so I thought to disclose this potential ‘conflict’ here.
Some of my friends and family who support @KamalaHarris are ok with my supporting Trump, but don’t want me to attempt to convince others to support him. Because I strongly believe that a Trump administration will be better for the country and the world than a Harris administration, I think it is important to share my thinking to the extent it helps others come to the right conclusion.
Three months ago, when I endorsed Trump on the day of the first assassination attempt, I promised to share my thinking about why I came to this conclusion in a future more detailed post. I intend to do so in possibly more than one post, with the first, this one, explaining the actions and policies of the Biden/Harris administration and Democratic Party that were the catalysts for my losing total confidence in the administration and the Party.
To be clear, my decision to vote for Trump is not an endorsement of everything he has done or will do because he is an imperfect man. Unlike a marriage or a business partnership where there are effectively unlimited alternatives, in this election, we have only two viable choices. Of the two, I believe that Trump is by far the superior candidate despite his flaws and mistakes he has made in the past.
As always, I welcome your feedback on how I could be wrong and on how the below actions and policies I outline below might actually have been good for America. I have always believed that the best way to get to the truth is to hear the best arguments on all sides of an issue.
While the 33 actions I describe below are those of the Democratic Party and the Biden/Harris administration, they are also the actions and policies that unfortunately our most aggressive adversaries would likely implement if they wanted to destroy America from within, and had the ability to take control of our leadership.
These are the 33:
(1) open the borders to millions of immigrants who were not screened for their risk to the country, dumping them into communities where the new immigrants overwhelm existing communities and the infrastructure to support the new entrants, at the expense of the historic residents,
(2) introduce economic policies and massively increase spending without regard to their impact on inflation and the consequences for low-income Americans and the increase in our deficit and national debt,
(3) withdraw from Afghanistan, abandoning our local partners and the civilians who worked alongside us in an unprepared, overnight withdrawal that led to American casualties and destroyed the lives of Afghani women and girls for generations, against the strong advice of our military leadership, and thereafter not showing appropriate respect for their loss at a memorial ceremony in their honor,
(4) introduce thousands of new and unnecessary regulations in light of the existing regulatory regime that interfere with our businesses’ ability to compete, restraining the development of desperately needed housing, infrastructure, and energy production with the associated inflationary effects,
(5) modify the bail system so that violent criminals are released without bail,
(6) destroy our street retailers and communities and promote lawlessness by making shoplifting (except above large thresholds) no longer a criminal offense,
(7) limit and/or attempt to limit or ban fracking and LNG so that U.S. energy costs increase substantially and the U.S. loses its energy independence,
(8) promote DEI ideologies that award jobs, awards, and university admissions on the basis of race, sexual identity and gender criteria, and teach our students and citizens that the world can only be understood as an unfair battle between oppressors and the oppressed, where the oppressors are only successful due to structural racism or a rigged system and the oppressed are simply victims of an unfair system and world,
(9) educate our elementary children that gender is fluid, something to be chosen by a child, and promote hormone blockers and gender reassignment surgeries to our youth without regard to the longer-term consequences to their mental and physical health, and allow biological boys and men to compete in girls and women’s sports, depriving girls and women of scholarships, awards, and other opportunities that they would have rightly earned otherwise,
(10) encourage and celebrate massive protests and riots that lead to the burning and destruction of local retail and business establishments while at the same time requiring schools to be shuttered because of the risk of Covid-19 spreading during large gatherings,
(11) encourage and celebrate anti-American and anti-Israel protests and flag burning on campuses around the country with no consequences for the protesters who violate laws or university codes and policies,
(12) allow antisemitism to explode with no serious efforts from the administration to quell this hatred,
(13) mandate vaccines that have not been adequately tested nor have their risks been properly considered compared with the potential benefits adjusted for the age and health of the individual, censoring the contrary advice of top scientists around the world,
(14) shut down free speech in media and on social media platforms that is inconsistent with government policies and objectives,
(15) use the U.S., state, and local legal systems to attack and attempt to jail, take off the campaign trail, and/or massively fine candidates for the presidency without regard to the merits or precedential issues of the case,
(16) seek to defund the police and promote anti-police rhetoric causing a loss of confidence in those who are charged with protecting us,
(17) use government funds to subsidize auto companies and internet providers with vastly more expensive, dated and/or lower-quality technology when greatly superior and cheaper alternatives are available from companies that are owned and/or managed by individuals not favored by the current administration,
(18) mandate in legislation and otherwise government solutions to problems when the private sector can do a vastly better, faster, and cheaper job,
(19) seek to ban gas-powered cars and stoves without regard to the economic and practical consequences of doing so,
(20) take no serious actions when 45 American citizens are killed by terrorists and 12 are taken hostage,
(21) hold back armaments and weaponry from our most important ally in the Middle East in the midst of their hostage negotiations, hostages who include American citizens who have now been held for more than one year,
(22) eliminate sanctions on one of our most dangerous enemies enabling them to generate $150 billion+ of cash reserves from oil sales, which they can then use to fund terrorist proxy organizations who attack us and our allies. Exchange five American hostages held by Iran for five Iranians plus $6 billion of cash in the worst hostage negotiation in history setting a disastrous and dangerous precedent,
(23) remove known terrorist organizations from the terrorist list so we can provide aid to their people, and allow them to shoot rockets at U.S. assets and military bases with little if any military response from us,
(24) lie to the American people about the cognitive health of the president and accuse those who provide video evidence of his decline of sharing doctored videos and being right wing conspirators,
(25) do nothing about the deteriorating health of our citizens driven by the food industrial complex, the fraudulent USDA food pyramid, and the inclusion of ingredients in our food that are banned by other countries around the world which are more protective of their citizens,
(26) do nothing about the proliferation of new vaccines that are not properly analyzed for their risk versus the potential benefit for healthy children who are mandated to receive them,
(27) do nothing about the continued exemption from liability for the pharma industry that has led to a proliferation of mandatory vaccines for children without considering the potential cumulative effects of the now mandated 72-shot regime,
(28) convince our minority youth that they are victims of a rigged system and that the American dream is not available to them,
(29) fail to provide adequate Secret Service protection for alternative presidential candidates,
(30) litigate to prevent alternative candidates from getting on the ballot, and take other anti-competitive steps including threatening political consultants who wish to work for alternative candidates for the presidency, and limit the potential media access for other candidates by threatening the networks’ future access to the administration and access to ‘scoops’ if they platform an alternative candidate,
(31) select the Democratic nominee for president in a backroom process by undisclosed party leaders without allowing Americans to choose between candidates in an open primary,
(32) choose an inferior candidate for the presidency when other much more qualified candidates are available and interested to serve,
(33) litigate to make it illegal for states to require proof of citizenship, voter ID, and/or residence in order to vote at a time when many Americans have lost confidence in the accuracy and trustworthiness of our voting system.
I welcome your thoughts
BuDuh (4214e4) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:30 amThe above 33 items are simply the actions of liberal, misguided and soft leadership. Nothing to worry about.
Especially from behind an Electoral College skirt, or a lie about Biden’s cognitive decline. That make believe world has nothing to fear.
BuDuh (4214e4) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:34 amhttps://x.com/BillAckman/status/1844802469680873747#m
BuDuh (4214e4) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:38 ampresidents in 12 of the last 16 years are Democrats
She is to the left of both of them. Considerably. Oh, she’s putting on sheep clothing right now, but just wait. I expect quite a bit of “I told you so” and I won’t be shy about it.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:48 amThings Harris would do with a majority in Congress, however thin:
1. Nuke the filibuster. A perquisite.
2. Add seats to the Supreme Court.
3. Raise taxes considerably, starting with uncapping the rest of FICA and eliminating capital gains treatment. Raise top rates and cap home mortgage deduction further.
4. Preempt all state abortion laws to establish a 25-week right to abortion on demand
5. Create 2 or 3 new entitlements, all of which will be underfunded. Examples: Federally-funded preschools, free public college, expanded Medicare (e.g. dental, vision), federally-funded abortions, etc.
6. Forgive all student loans.
She will have the House. The Senate will depend on luck. The GOP has underperformed the polls in most recent Senate elections, so I am not as sanguine as some.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:01 amAt least her health report is a good as Biden’s was.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:09 amA Democrat House that impeaches Cannon, Kacsmaryk, and Doughty (even if there is no Senate to remove them) would be like so wonderful. Those gerbils ratify Trump’s opinion of the judiciary even if he had to appoint them himself.
As for packing the Supreme Court, Alito and Thomas are in their mid-seventies. The Democrats will be satisfied with Harris appointing their replacements. Me too.
nk (7c2843) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:14 amI would like to see Congress consider an amendment to fix the size of the Supreme Court at 9.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:32 amI would rather have them with an enforceable code of ethics.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:47 amMore delusion. There won’t be an “I told you so” from you.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/13/2024 @ 10:53 amPolitically, Kamala’s fairly close to Bernie, a little left or right of him depending on who’s surveying them. Bernie’s vision is a big American version of Denmark, which is a free nation with a free economy and big social safety net, not Venezuela or Cuba like the hyperventilators here claim.
Kamala doesn’t have the political chops to enlarge the safety net we have, especially when there will be at least 51 Republicans in the Senate.
Ackman’s list, after a quick look:
2-Republicans and Democrats are both guilty
5&6-Bail and shoplifting are state/local government issues
10-12 a lack evidence or are protected speech
Most of the rest also lack evidence or just his opinion. For example, #20, the US has no leverage to negotiate with Hamas to release the hostages with the Israelis being in the best position to do so.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:08 amThat’s a brave stand as a retiree to object to expanding Medicare. I salute you!
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:16 amWhen will you endorse abolishing Medicare (and Social Security)? 😉
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:21 amI would rather have them with an enforceable code of ethics.
Of course you would, as it’s the Democrat talking point. How well is that enforceable Congressional code of ethics working? Or any other code of ethics in government?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:34 amWhen will you endorse abolishing Medicare (and Social Security)?
Never. It’s a blood oath by government to the people it taxes. They would have to pay me back every dime, plus the percentage gain on the S&P 500, before I’d consider it.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:36 amThat’s a brave stand as a retiree to object to expanding Medicare.
No, it’s simply objecting to further strain on the system. It’s going to be cut back as it is.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:37 amMore delusion. There won’t be an “I told you so” from you.
The delusion is yours. Hell, Rip accuses ME of wishful thinking. She will move as far Left as she is able.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:39 amnot Venezuela or Cuba like the hyperventilators here claim.
There is a vast gulf between the US and Cuba, and you can destroy our system long before you get that far.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:40 amI have no doubt Republicans would nuke the filibuster in order to pass Trump’s agenda. And once that is done, a national abortion ban could be passed (assuming they retain control of the House, which I think they will).
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:46 amNothing is a “blood oath” by the government. They’re always changing the rules.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 11:48 amSo ethics are a democrat thing? That explains a lot.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:03 pm“Chinese researchers, using a D-Wave quantum computer, claim to have executed what they are calling the first successful quantum attack on widely used encryption algorithms, posing a “real and substantial threat” to sectors like banking and the military, as reported by SCMP.
The D-Wave Advantage, initially designed for non-cryptographic applications, was used to breach SPN-structured algorithms but has not yet cracked specific passcodes, highlighting the early-stage nature of this threat.
Despite the advance, the researchers acknowledge limitations such as environmental interference, underdeveloped hardware and the inability to develop a single attack method for multiple encryption systems still hinder quantum computing’s full cryptographic potential.”
Also note that “Golden Jackal” hackers (probably Russian gov’t) have twice breached air gapped systems.
steveg (292c87) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:07 pmSo ethics are a democrat thing? That explains a lot.
Yeah, sure. Deflect. Ethics in institutions that Democrats want to control, but don’t, are a Democrat thing. The complaints about Alito and Thomas are trumped up — they affect nothing. It’s just the normal MSM smear machine. Are are you saying that Thomas hews Right because he’s being paid to do so? If so, make your case.
Then we can talk about Congress and the stock market. Or Maxine Waters and her husband’s bank
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:26 pmNothing is a “blood oath” by the government. They’re always changing the rules
Let them try to change this rule and you will see the blood.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:28 pmI have no doubt Republicans would nuke the filibuster in order to pass Trump’s agenda
They didn’t last time. Trump demanded it, but enough Republicans refused. It would take only a few, no matter what MAGA wants. Maybe he could get some Democrat votes.
OTOH, the Democrats did try and nearly succeeded and the majority leader has announced they will succeed next time. Maybe we should call them MASA (Make America Statist Again).
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:31 pmBTW, if you have not watched that SpaceX booster landing, check out the video at: https://wapo.st/3YkqW1Y
If you’re impatient, the real fun starts at 45 seconds in. Note that the booster is 233ft long and 30 feet in diameter and weighs 300 tons empty.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:36 pm2 things can be true at once, sometimes 3.
It’s weird that I’m deflecting as a response to a SCOTUS post, about SCOTUS, and I’m deflecting too…congress.
Wait, that was you.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:37 pmyeah no big deal
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/13/2024 @ 12:46 pmYeah, Denmark is such a communist wasteland.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:06 pmGood grief.
https://x.com/i/status/1845467052443828579.
But via Elon Musk so if quirky “sperg’s” offend you, don’t click
No WaPo paywall
steveg (292c87) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:11 pmRip
5,6 are Kamala issues. She is the one who named Prop 47 the “Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act” and she will bring that type of leadership to the WH
steveg (292c87) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:14 pmIndeed, they all knew. The difference is us NeverTrumpers never changed our tune. There was no reason to.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:29 pmMy opinion of Trump as a person is more or less how nk describes him. Irredeemable and awful.
Putting that aside, just looking at whether he can perform or not: he can’t. His first two years, when he had a GOP congress and no real crisis, was a waste. His second two years, when he had a crisis, he seized power clumsily and failed every test somewhat bigly.
I mentioned for some time that Biden would not be Trump’s opponent. The dems were smart to try to repeat the 2020 campaign (not run against Trump, but Trump run against himself). However they took this too far. Kamala came in with very little record to stand on.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25201760/240478-nbc-october-2024-poll_101324-release.pdf This recent poll shows she has lost favorability rapidly. We all seem to understand that the battle lines are radical. Trans in girls bathrooms, millions of illegal aliens ruining towns, idiots insisting we should appreciate the working class competing with second class citizens because the rich need as close to slavery as they can get.
So remember, all those nevertrumpers who refused to compromise in a way that would crush Trump at the right moment: they have left us in a situation where Trump could be reelected. And that makes sense. You can’t beat from from the left like you can beat him from the middle if you just give the populists some respect.
I think Kamala will win, and Trump will be terrible in the aftermath. But maybe not. Maybe the nevertrumpers handed Trump the white house.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:37 pmYeah, Denmark is such a communist wasteland.
Bernie honeymooned in Brezhnev’s USSR, not Denmark.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:38 pmNo WaPo paywall
Mine was a free link, so no paywall there either
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:39 pmShe is the one who named Prop 47 the “Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act”
She did a lot of that. No power too petty to pervert.
https://californiaglobe.com/fr/california-ballot-initiative-title-history-and-kamalas-ag-days/
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:45 pmRaddatz seems to have a case of Paul’s tranche rational disease.
BuDuh (aad567) — 10/13/2024 @ 1:47 pm@203 Vance has been doing regular interviews with a hostile and biased media, which Kamala and Walz refuse to do — even with a media biased in their favor. And, Vance has been knocking it out of the park. More on the exchange:
Vance: “Well, Martha, you just said the mayor said they were exaggerated. That means that there’s gotta be some element of truth here. Of course, President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to people on the ground, and what we’re hearing is people are terrified by what has happened with some of these Venezuelan gangs — ”
Raddatz: “Senator Vance, I’m going to stop you because I know exactly what happened. I’m going to stop you. The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes and the mayor said, ‘Our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns.’ A handful of problems.”
Vance: “Only, Martha? Do you hear yourself? Only a handful of apartment complexes were taken over by Venezuelan gangs, and Donald Trump is the problem, not Kamala Harris’ open border? Americans are so fed up with what’s going on, and they have every right to be. I really find this exchange, Martha, sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than acknowledging that apartment complexes in the United States of America are being taken over by violent gangs.
“I worry so much more about that problem than anything else here. We’ve got to get American communities in a safe space again, and unfortunately, when you let people in by the millions — most of whom are unvetted, most of whom you don’t know who they really are — you’re going to have problems like this. Kamala Harris — 94 executive orders that undid Donald Trump’s successful border policies, we knew this stuff would happen. They bragged about opening the border, and now we have the consequences and we’re living with it. We can do so much better, but frankly we’re not going to do better, Martha, unless Donald Trump calls this stuff out.”
lloyd (924176) — 10/13/2024 @ 2:42 pmThe next Senate will be totally different, so whatever happened in the past is irrelevant.
Rip Murdock (6b103f) — 10/13/2024 @ 2:49 pmWhat is relevant is that two GOP votes will stop it. Last time they have 30 to stop it.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 2:51 pmI know all true Republicans are those who aren’t concerned about a politician winning election to the most powerful office in the land who is only a little to the left of Bernie Sanders.
NJRob (3ea254) — 10/13/2024 @ 2:57 pmForty years ago, what Jean Kirkpatrick identified in her “San Francisco Democrats” speech as Blame America First has evolved into Blame Americans First. You see it with the war on fossil fuels, inflation, regulations, defunding police, banning gas appliances, border policy overwhelming our towns and cities, disaster relief. “Just a handful of problems” is a further manifestation. And we’re set to elect a bona fide San Francisco Democrat more extreme than what Kirkpatrick was imagining.
lloyd (924176) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:02 pmSpeaker Johnson is also going out in front of a hostile media. Here, he’s grilled on Trump’s health and “cholesterol levels” by the same Democrats in the media who hid Biden’s cognitive decline.
‘Listen To Your Question!’: Kristen Welker Presses House Speaker Mike Johnson On Release Of Trump’s Medical Records
lloyd (924176) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:21 pmThere is an on-going press conference on YouTube.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:34 pmMaybe Bernie Sanders has lower cholesterol, lloyd.
BuDuh (aad567) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:35 pmhttps://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html
During the January 2 audio call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Trump said:
You know what a great testament to our country is? It’s Brad Raffensperger refusing to go along with Trump’s attempt to steal the election.
A citizenry with a functioning civic compass would tell Trump to get off the stage.
norcal (7e490d) — 10/13/2024 @ 3:41 pmHe was looking for illegal votes norcal. Not creating them.
NJRob (3ea254) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:07 pmHe was looking for illegal votes norcal.
NJRob (3ea254) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:07 pm
And a mafioso is just expressing admiration and concern when he tells a shop owner, “Nice business you have there. It’d be a shame if something happened to it.”
Trump’s handpicked attorney general told him it wasn’t a fraudulent election.
norcal (7e490d) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:17 pmNo way you can have one hundred percent confidence in that. You only say that because your bias against Trump is showing.
NJRob (3ea254) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:22 pmJonah Goldberg is such a great writer.
https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/slog-and-sacrifice/
I see this problem on both sides. The progressive left thinks that systemized racism prevents minorities from getting ahead. The MAGA right thinks that free trade is just an assault on the working class.
norcal (7e490d) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:27 pmYou only say that because your bias against Trump is showing.
NJRob (3ea254) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:22 pm
You appear to be biased for Trump.
I actually voted for Trump in 2016, so accusations of bias fall flat. When is the last time you voted for a Democratic nominee for president?
norcal (7e490d) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:30 pmDude with fake creds going to Trump rally is a Mega-MAGA, runs America Happens. Less assassination attempt and more a militiaman playing the role of Trump protector. Sovereign Citizen wack job.
The sheriff says they prevented a third assassination attempt…and he was released and returned his guns with a $5k bail. It’s probably that the sheriff is a notorious libtard and let the guy go so he could try again, as a California person that’s just a given.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:37 pmWe’re talking about a punk-ass who stole from his brother’s kids. If there’s any benefit of the doubt to be given, it belongs to Raffensperger, not the jumped-up bellboy.
nk (7c2843) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:43 pm“The sheriff says they prevented a third assassination attempt…and he was released and returned his guns with a $5k bail. It’s probably that the sheriff is a notorious libtard and let the guy go so he could try again, as a California person that’s just a given.”
[quote]Chad Bianco is an American law enforcement officer currently serving as sheriff of Riverside County, California. He was first elected in 2018 and then re-elected in 2023. A political conservative, Bianco has been affiliated with the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Bianco
[quote]The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs and police. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and duty to defy or disregard laws they regard as unconstitutional.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Sheriffs_and_Peace_Officers_Association
not a lot of air between the Sheriff and the suspect.
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:56 pmforgot how to do quotes blocks lol
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/13/2024 @ 4:57 pmAh, so only two assassination attempts. Not three. Trumpers lie again!
lloyd (d15e54) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:05 pmFive, actually. Hurricanes Helene and Milton were really directed at Trump by the cannibal vampire weather control leftist liberals from outer space, but they missed like Crooks dis and got innocent people instead.
nk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:12 pm
nk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:14 pmdisdidAnybody who gives half a second’s consideration to Trump’s claim of a rigged 2020 election is ignorant of history. Trump claimed that Cruz won the 2016 Republican primary in Iowa through fraud!
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674
Sound familiar? After losing in 2020, Trump said something similar:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63851751
Trump even claimed the Emmy awards were rigged against him.
Sowing distrust (on an unprecedented scale and for an unprecedented duration) about election outcomes is worse than anything Kamala has done.
norcal (1a8b67) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:17 pm“Ah, so only two assassination attempts. Not three. Trumpers lie again!”
I think it’s more likely he was going to wave his guns around in support for Trump
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:18 pmnk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:12 pm
🤣
norcal (1a8b67) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:19 pmFederal officials say no evidence of assassination attempt after man arrested with weapons near Trump rally in California
nk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:21 pm“Trump said” and “Trump lied” are synonymous.
nk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:25 pmYou’re just a water carrier with a sense of humor, nk.
Carry on the carrying.
norcal (1a8b67) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:36 pmIt’s just that “synonymous” is a Greek word. I know lots of Greek words. I have the best Greek words.
nk (e1b191) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:43 pmRomney.
SaveFarris (78c013) — 10/13/2024 @ 5:47 pm“Trump said” and “Trump lied” are synonymous.
And White House medical reports are as good as gold.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/13/2024 @ 6:05 pmBut not as good as Trump’s daddy’s tenant’s diagnosis of bone spurs.
And then there was the guy before the real admiral and then the rear admiral.
If anybody has made medical examinations a joke, it is the orange conman.
nk (a7556d) — 10/13/2024 @ 6:26 pmHillary Clinton appears to faint during ‘medical episode’
Hillary Clinton Proves She’s in Good Health
BuDuh (aad567) — 10/13/2024 @ 6:32 pmhttps://www.politico.com/newsletters/california-climate/2024/10/10/coastal-commission-1-spacex-0-00183373
“Elon Musk is hopping about the country, spewing and tweeting political falsehoods and attacking FEMA while claiming his desire to help the hurricane victims with free Starlink access to the internet,” commissioner Gretchen Newsom (no relation to Gov. Gavin) said at today’s meeting in San Diego.
“I really appreciate the work of the Space Force,” said Commission Chair Caryl Hart. “But here we’re dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race
Coastal Commission 1- SpaceX 0
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Yeah well its now bottom of the first inning with SpaceX up to bat
Elon Musk:
“Incredibly inappropriate. What I post on this platform has nothing to do with a “coastal commission” in California!
Filing suit against them on Monday for violating the First Amendment.”
I’d love to see the State of CA Coastal Commission get a spanking from the Supreme Court
steveg (292c87) — 10/13/2024 @ 6:47 pmFiling suit against them on Monday for violating the First Amendment.”
Taking his cue from Donnie 6,000 Lawsuits, eh? I understand he’s also suing advertisers for dropping X. What’s next? Suing drivers for not driving a Tesla?
nk (7e0fd9) — 10/13/2024 @ 7:15 pmA TV show I highly recommend is The Sinner. It stars Bill Pullman, and ran from 2017 through 2021, on USA Network of all places. I just finished the series last night. Pullman does a masterful job, and the location filming is beautiful.
Each of the four seasons is a self-contained story.
norcal (1a8b67) — 10/13/2024 @ 7:34 pmIt has a 92% Rotten Tomatoes score.
norcal (1a8b67) — 10/13/2024 @ 7:35 pm@237 Maybe he’s taking his cue from Garland 6,000 lawsuits.
lloyd (a02410) — 10/13/2024 @ 7:38 pmYeah, that show was great.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:07 pm@173
…hey…the sauce…might be a wee bit much.
If I’m drinking what you’re drinking…then…
I’d be okay a GOP House impeaches the DC democrats judges who ratifies every thing the progressive intends to implement.
whembly (67cc79) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:09 pm@175
Congress would have better arguments if they have their own “enforceable” code of ethics.
Sorry…was laughing too much.
whembly (67cc79) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:10 pm@194
Right?!?! To they hear themself say that?
Bernie is too far left for this country.
whembly (67cc79) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:12 pm@195
Denmark isn’t even close to the US.
And, no, I don’t want to be like Denmark.
whembly (67cc79) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:13 pm@199
Doubtful…
If Biden can win with a “basement” campaign, no reason to stand that Harris couldn’t.
whembly (67cc79) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:14 pmProbably true, Whembly.
But it’s much closer than it ought to be. I don’t really know to what extent the polls are inaccurate or push polls, but Trump is viable.
Nevertrumpers had a great option to avoid the outcome. Either way it goes, they should be kicking themselves for not making that compromise and trying to build that bridge. The far left, the folks who love Trump, they seem to have been more effective.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:18 pmSo never Trump is 10% of the republican party, and if 100% of us supported Nikki…
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:30 pm@158 we say the same about the right.
asset (c18906) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:44 pmToo bad neverTrump never had the opportunity to “make that compromise” as DeSantis quit after the Iowa caucuses.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/13/2024 @ 8:47 pmJen psaki on msdnc says black and latinx males should stop worrying about the economy and start worrying about trump being a threat to democracy! The economy is doing great for our donors and professional women, so its not the economy stupid. Don’t you dare vote for jill stein!
asset (c18906) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:00 pmTrump is going to have a rally in New York Madison Square garden like the Nazis did in 1939. Anyone here going to attend?
asset (c18906) — 10/13/2024 @ 9:03 pmMan arrested outside Trump Coachella rally denies assassination intent; he’s ‘all in’ supporting Trump
nk (a61e3a) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:38 amThis is not a MAGA site, Mr. lloyd. People here know the difference between the chief law enforcement officer of the United States and a mendacious multi-national money-grubber.
nk (a61e3a) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:20 amFor the record, I’m still predicting a Trump victory. My mourning garb are rended and ready.
lurker (c23034) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:42 amhttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/12/north-carolina-democrat-candidate-arrested-stealing-trump-signs/
Leftists doing what leftists do.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:08 amThey don’t care. If they don’t get what they want, they will take their toys and go home. After setting fire to your house.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:12 amDemocratic National Conventions in 1976, 1980, and 1992 were held at current MSG.
They must be 3x’s the Nazis by your math. Who knew.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:15 amHolocaust Harris is trending now on Twitter. Because that’s what the far left thinks of her. Try telling an actual far leftist that Harris is far left and you’ll hear a good belly laugh. If a far leftist isn’t pulling for Jill Stein or Cornell West, they’ve taken the RFK Jr. conspiracy caucus junket across the horse shoe to Trump.
Just like right-wing extremists are voting for Harris, right? No, actually, the far right are standing back and standing by in their MAGA merch, also all-in for Trump. Odd, huh?
lurker (c23034) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:26 am@254 Yeah nk, we know. One pays for his own lawsuits, the other fleeces taxpayers for the privilege.
lloyd (a02410) — 10/14/2024 @ 6:19 am@255
I don’t see it…
Unless, you’re one of those people who expects the worst and likes to be pleasantly surprised in being wrong?
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 6:54 amRight back at you…….I’m sure your prediction of a Trump loss is so you’ll be “ pleasantly surprised.”
What do you base your prediction on?
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:07 amI have never thought Trump would win, even after the first debate when Biden was still in. Even after Butler. This has a “red wave” feel to it, as in the opposite will happen. The tinkering with voting rules starting in 2020 is having its intended effect. It was never about saving democracy.
lloyd (8f699b) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:18 amCrocodile tears.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:22 amWhich really haven’t had an effect on the polling. If they did, Harris would be leading by a mile.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:29 amConfidential to Rip: Polls don’t decide elections.
lloyd (8f699b) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:34 amConfidential to lloyd: they create expectations. And the polls are showing that the expectation is that Trump will win.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:51 amTime magazine owner takes Kamala Harris to task for denying interview requests: ‘We believe in transparency’
Here Time is all ready to do a beachball interview and puff piece, and Kamala just doesn’t want to risk it.
lloyd (8f699b) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:52 am@267 Guess what, the slackers and low information voters that the voting rules are meant to accommodate don’t factor into polls. We saw that with the last “red wave.” Polls can be wrong, I know it’s too mind blowing to consider but try.
lloyd (8f699b) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:55 amIf Trump does lose, it will be his d*mn fault for belatedly encouraging his supporters to take advantage of early and mail-in voting.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:56 amA theory on this election:
Policy doesn’t matter.
Personalities don’t matter.
What matters is whether one supports the political establishment, or wants to kick it to the curb.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:04 am@237:
Sad to see nk attack the 1st amendment
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:07 amEither way, the country is poised for the next level of institutional stress testing.
If Trump loses, we will get the next round of baseless claims of fraud…that will no doubt be amplified and conspiratorized by a prepped and willing base. FNC, Talk Radio, NRO will continue to be driven by audience capture and cynical marketing.
If Trump wins, we will have the awfulness of a President pardoning himself and dismissing DoJ staff who were not sufficiently loyal. We will all be waiting with bated breath as to the fate of Ukraine: odds are trending poorly as Zelensky was warned “it takes two to tango.” If we shouldn’t care about J6 and blatant move to disrupt and influence our voting process, what will be the next prod and poke to our liberal society? Mass roundups, attacks into Mexico, federal soldiers inserted into cities, a Mark Milley arrest? A side of our Trumpsters would be pumping more, more, more. They’re too close; they don’t see it.
We’ve been told here that Harris is not just underwhelming but in fact EVIL. By that logic, would any Democrat be anything better than a little bit less evil. I imagine any generic Democrat would still pack the court, suspend the filibuster, applaud the National Vote Compact, and just make us become Denmark a little slower. It’s the problem with throwing around that word evil without much thought…or accountability.
Once the other side is evil, is the grand democratic experiment we have teetering? How do we repair things when the leader of one movement can’t EVER lose without fraud and corruption? There is little to no effort to square this on one side — just continued twists to weirdly blame NeverTrump for Trump’s massive popularity in the GOP. They’re invested. They will never own it.
AJ_Liberty (b2aab7) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:12 amPeople here know the difference between the chief law enforcement officer of the United States and a mendacious antidemocratic lawfare crapweasel.
FIFY.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:12 amIf Trump does lose, it will be his d*mn fault for belatedly encouraging his supporters to take advantage of early and mail-in voting.
Indeed. Own voter suppression.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:16 amAs for those who think the Dodgers weakness is their injured pitching staff, Sunday’s game left their pitchers tied with the all-time scoreless inning streak in playoff games: 33. No one has scored against them since the 2nd inning of game 3 of the divisional series (the Padres did not bat in the 9th inning of that game).
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:57 amOne game. We’ll see how they are doing after game 6.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:12 amFirst, the candidate Donnie wants to run against drops out.
nk (a61e3a) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:25 amThen, the candidate they replace him with does not campaign the way Donnie wants her to.
SO UNFAIR! Mommy!
To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you run a campaign based on voting rules that exist, not the ones you want or wish to have.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:29 am@262
Biden successfully ran a basement campaign in 2020.
We all knew, correctly so, that Biden would be a disaster and didn’t believe the media/Democrat establishment (BIRM) could drag his ass across the finish line.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Harris was just as successful.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:31 amIn other words, no hard facts or data.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:35 amSo what?
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:38 am@273
No.
Correct.
You mean, like calling J6 an “iNsUrReCtIoN”?
You mean, like calling Trump an “Danger to Democracy”?
You mean, like calling any GOPer “fascists”?
You mean, like calling any voters not voting Democrats “racists”?
The problem with throwing hyperbole, is the indignation when there’s hyperbolic return fire.
Own what? The fact that some of us chose to NOT acquiesce to the progress left that’s dominating the Democratic party?
Own what? That while Trump, and other non-establishment Republicans are imperfect, but are a far batter lot than the current Democratic party?
Sure, for me personally, I’ll own it and go to bed peacefully every night.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:42 amRip,
I wonder how good the “hard facts and data” do with this campaign. The polls totally overcalled the GOP vote in 2022 and the results they are coming up with combine wierdness with a lot of assumptions.
My no hard facts and data guess this is a turnout election and that the low propensity voters that Trump is trying to mine might not get to the polls. Also, if the contest is between men for Trump and women for not Trump — men are just the type of folks who will NOT make a plan to vote, and then end up doing something else rather than stand in line on the last day.
Appalled (1f1528) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:43 am@282
As if you have hard facts or data.
(and no, polls ain’t it chief…if it were, Hillary would be in her 2nd Term and the GOP would’ve had a massive Red wave in ’22)
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:45 am@285
To be fair to Rip, polls can show “movement” in the trends. So, yeah, you’d want to be Trump right now if we’re weighing the “trends” accurately.
But, probably the hardest thing to poll, is during voting, which is compounded by the various schedules of early votings… is this:
The preference cascade™, especially when the race is *this* close.
If Trump represent that “change” candidate, in that the election is about Biden/Harris’ job performance, Trump has a chance.
But, if the preference cascade to the point that Democrats successfully reminds Trump’s chaotic 1st term, impeachment, j6 to such degree that it overshadows the economic pain-points in voter’s wallets… Harris has a chance.
Harris has a very compliant media and an absolute warchest that Trump has to overcome.
That’s a tall order, no matter who’s the GOP candidate.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:52 amIt always scares me when whembly and I come roughly to the same conclusion. Now if we end up in the same place and asset and Rip agree with us, it’s either the apocalypse or the Walz Vance debate.
Appalled (1f1528) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:52 amSpeaking of hyperbole:
This assumes a lot of facts not in evidence, particularly that the Senate will almost assuredly be controlled by Republicans. With both Montana and West Virginia flipping, Democrats would have to flip seats they are currently losing.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:53 amAs I have continually said, the President has no role regarding the filibuster, it’s a Senate rule.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:58 am@288
🤣🤣🤣🤣
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:00 am@290
A president, who observes the importance of the Senate filibuster, has no obligation to sign any legislation that was passed when the filibuster is neutered.
What’s your confidence that President Harris would voted any legislation that was passed by Democrat controlled Senate?
What’s your confidence that President Trump would voted any legislation that was passed by Democrat controlled Senate with the filibuster dead? (I don’t think he’d care, he’d simply veto it because its probably going to be veto worthy on its own).
Each of the House, Senate and President plays a part in passing legislation. All 3 does have power to influence internal parliamentary procedures…albeit, rarely done.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:07 am*veto not “voted”. Sorry, my brain must be extra dyslexia today.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:07 amThis election has been Trump’s to lose. Had he continued to focus on all the bad things that the Biden/Harris administration did, this election would have been a cakewalk. But instead he focused on derogatory attacks on Harris, her changing positions, and self owns like cat eating Haitians, threatening his opponents, and Vance’s prior public statements.
Nobody cared about what he was saying, which has led this election to be a toss-up.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:11 amI’m not sure what your point is-I think Harris or Trump would sign any legislation passed by a Democratic (again, an unlikely possibility) Senate whether or not the filibuster was “neutered” if they favored the legislation.
And as I’ve said before, I can see a Republican Senate repealing the filibuster rule to overcome Democrat objections to legislation favored by Trump.
Do you have any examples of a President influencing the internal parliamentary procedures of either the House or Senate; or the two chambers influencing the proceedings of be other?
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:30 amGreat article by Williamson today
I can’t say it any better…
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:46 amOne game. We’ll see how they are doing after game 6.
They’ve pitched 3 shutouts in a row.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:48 amThis assumes a lot of facts not in evidence, particularly that the Senate will almost assuredly be controlled by Republicans.
…and the Supreme Court will certainly block Obamacare.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:51 amIn other words, no hard facts or data.
Again, this is a gut-check election. Do you want to kick the table over, or not?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:56 am@296
–channeling Jules from Pulp Fiction–
Well allow me to retort!
Mr. Williamson can eat a whole bowl of richards.
That’s “what”.
If all these NT pundits truly, and sincerely wanted a “not-Trump” candidate…far more work and money is NEEDED to be spent on the grass-roots pre/during primary phase. Bitching about Trump’s nomination without putting in any effort to change it otherwise is just whining in the most pathetic manner.
Jules diner quote…
Mr. Williamson is too weak to acknowledge what this country is facing in a Harris/Walz administration.
Mr. Williamson’s writing isn’t that of a righteous man.
It’s writings that ignores the trials and tribulations of the common citizenry.
Mr. Williamson ain’t no shepherd.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:12 pmShorter Kevin Williamson and AJ: “Blame Americans First”
lloyd (8f0994) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:25 pmNASA (which is to say SpaceX) Launches Europa Clipper to Explore an Ocean Moon’s Habitability
The spacecraft will attempt no landing.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:35 pmhttps://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2013/nov/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-among-flip-floppers-senates-nuclear-o/
SaveFarris (79ab12) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:41 pmIt’s not out of the realm of assumption that the “low propensity voters” Trump is counting on sat out 2022 (an off-year election)
It’s not out of the realm of assumption that the “low propensity voters” Trump is counting on sat out most if not all of the Abortion special elections in the post-Dobbs era where pro-abort forces experienced higher than polled turnout
Those same “low propensity voters” turn out for Presidential elections at a much higher rate, of which this is one.
SaveFarris (79ab12) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:49 pmYou know it’s true when…
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 12:52 pm“Mr. Williamson is too weak to acknowledge what this country is facing in a Harris/Walz administration. Mr. Williamson’s writing isn’t that of a righteous man. It’s writings that ignores the trials and tribulations of the common citizenry. Mr. Williamson ain’t no shepherd.”
What a bizarre and deluded response. Williamson ain’t no anonymous hack that suffers zero reputational harm from spouting nonsense and bullsh*t. He also doesn’t whitewash accountability or rely on falsely labeling political opponents as evil. He’s an adult that doesn’t come on the internet with over-sized floppy shoes, a bulbous red nose, and an incessant honking horn looking for attention. He’s from Texas and doesn’t abide fools. Honk all you want, it doesn’t change the truth…
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:24 pmFYI —
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-warned-iran-killing-trump-would-act-war-report?intcmp=tw_fnc
Appalled (f24838) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:31 pmWorse than that, he doesn’t want to give Donnie a cookie.
nk (7e8ecc) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:43 pm@306 AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:24 pm
Yeah, miss me with all that.
The nose honking are those following the Liz Cheney of the world.
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:52 pm@308
But, what if he ate his meat.
Would he get some pudding?
whembly (477db6) — 10/14/2024 @ 1:53 pmthey will raise a bazillion dollars.
There are plenty on the left who want Trump to win. He is, after all, a democrat, and not really functional as a republican. For example, his one accomplishment, judges, is actually not one, because he led to the opposition appointing more than he did.
There’s only one path for the normal conservative: compromise.
A far, far, far leftist, someone who believes trans pronouns must be enforced, will tell you Nikki Haley is a compromise candidate despite her standing for absolutely nothing but her own personal enrichment.
No. She burned the bridge. All she represented was sneering at the actual good compromise we were offered.
We’ll have another chance. I’m sure of it, and I bet it’s a decent option because it would represent something. Last time we went the compromise route was W. It was great only in comparison to all the alternatives. Like democracy itself.
Just think about it, guys. Don’t take it personally. Really consider if I have a point here.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:10 pm“A far, far, far leftist, someone who believes trans pronouns must be enforced, will tell you Nikki Haley is a compromise candidate despite her standing for absolutely nothing but her own personal enrichment.
No. She burned the bridge. All she represented was sneering at the actual good compromise we were offered.”
Just ask yourself one question: if Nikki Haley was never in the race, would Ron DeSantis have won the nomination? Even Ron would be skeptical. Ron DeSantis was a flawed campaigner that failed to persuade Trump-skeptical Republicans to leave Trump. He remained their second choice. Haley is a weird red herring in your analysis. It’s also quite weird that Haley…in your opinion…. was just seeking her own enrichment, whereas DeSantis was being civic minded….I guess. This is just weird projection. Haley was a decent candidate, but she too could not break voters away from Trump. Stop blaming Haley and start blaming MAGA voters who had no interest in leaving Trump.
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:33 pmWhat in the fresh hell is this? Nikki is standing for her own personal enrichment, sure, why not.
That’s like the flea on the back of the elephant. There is no human more focused on this than donnie 2 inch. It’s literally the only thing he stands for. see trump sneakers/watches/flags/trading cards/politics/game show/water/steaks/casino/university/marriages… Scams all.
Good on him, he’s proving Thomas Tusser right.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:39 pmAlso, uh, what now?
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:42 pmNikki simply represented the same bridge burning sneering at conservatism that Romney and Mccain represented.
She’s very replaceable and stands for nothing, has accomplished basically nothing. She can’t even tell you if the civil war was about slavery or keep the doors on an airplane. She ain’t no desantis, that’s for sure.
But no, Desantis winning has nothing to do with Haley specifically. She was obviously a far weaker candidate.
The issue was whether the party is ready to compromise. This year is as good a time to learn that it’s a good idea as any year.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:53 pmHey man, you’re free to be on the far far left, from my perspective. It’s a free country.
But that’s what you are. It’s not subtle. You don’t reject Trump because of his nonsense with elections, right? You reject him for the same reason you reject Desantis. The people who support him are inferior to you.
to me, Trump and desantis are barely the same species so this kind of realization is always odd.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/14/2024 @ 2:55 pmAs I said, we’ll see where the Dodgers pitching stands at the end of the NCLS. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:10 pmIrrelevant.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:12 pm@256 Republicans don’t steal signs? I was going to list ;but way too many just google republicans steal campaign signs.
asset (e6010a) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:14 pm21 days till election. Over at DU their grasping at straws.
asset (e6010a) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:18 pmAside from his remarks as President after the filibuster rule was changed, what actions did Obama take to facilitate the change (which of course came around to bite the Democrats in the ass)?
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:19 pmDustin has yet to explain why DeSantis quit the primary race after one contest (thereby depriving neverTrump voters outside of Iowa the opportunity to coalesce around his candidacy) and then immediately endorsed Trump.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:23 pm@311 Raising money can’t buy angry democrats ask joe crowley or eliot abrams. Bowman and bush only lost to black swan event (gaza) and with biden in white house democrats weren’t angry. More and more corporate democrats out. The more they lose the more the left takes over the democrat party. Corporate establishment democrats try and pretend to be leftist the more silly they look. Donor class says pronoun police safe. Taxing the rich not safe and no dinero for you!
asset (e6010a) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:30 pm@321 look up LBJ for examples.
asset (e6010a) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:31 pmDCSCA, I try not to feed trolls.
Dustin (4b502c) — 10/14/2024 @ 3:53 pmSo if neverTrump republicans never voted for Trump, and 90% of the MAGAGOP continues to vote for Trump, like in the last 3 elections, the other republicans that could win a primary would be whom? Please, tell me how neverTrump could have influence the primary? Explain it, show the math.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 4:10 pmThere’s no need to be insulting. It’s a legitimate question to your argument as to how neverTrump voters could coalesce around DeSantis as an alternative to Trump if he wasn’t available as a candidate.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 4:28 pmSpeaking of trolls, perhaps Dustin doesn’t have an answer.
Rip Murdock (d56b22) — 10/14/2024 @ 4:35 pmNeverTrump might as well have supported Tinkerbell, Ronald Reagan’s ghost, or Nancy Sinatra; they also weren’t an option.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:05 pmFirst news item:
Rip Murdock (a8f7fb) — 10/14/2024 @ 5:09 pm‘’Joker: Folie à Deux’ is a box office nuclear bomb:
Rip Murdock (c0c9f4) — 10/14/2024 @ 7:53 pmIt was bullsh-t when you said it months ago and it’s no less bullsh-t today. There aren’t enough NeverTrumpers to make a difference. The MAGAs are to blame for his nomination, the ones who actually vote for Trump in the primaries are to blame, no one else.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:14 pmWell, there are events with 100k in Coachella.
MAGA Chad Sheriff said the venue has a capacity of…15k.
But they did bus all the people from a remote lot…and didn’t have buses after the event.
So it was planned as well as anything else Trump is involved in. The defective leading the unqualified.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:16 pmVance is lying about that, too, in defense of Trump’s lie, debunked by the Republican mayor of the city.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:18 pmTrump isn’t a true Republican.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:23 pmTrue Republicans are good Americans who put country above self, and who aren’t sexual abusers, who aren’t frauds, who don’t commit crimes like trying to overturn legitimate elections.
Who can forget Trump’s doctor in 2016, who waved his stethoscope over Trump’s head and declared in healthiest man alive.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:31 pm@334 “Only a handful…”
https://apnews.com/article/tren-de-aragua-gang-venezuela-us-a12c8fee9dc4a0ca73769ea893e09e53
https://www.denver7.com/news/front-range/aurora/tren-de-aragua-components-operating-in-aurora-but-reports-of-tda-influence-are-isolated-city-says
https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/venezuela-gang-tren-de-aragua-us-0b40e380
https://nypost.com/2024/10/14/us-news/aurora-landlord-says-tren-de-aragua-took-over-apartment-tried-to-extort-them/
lloyd (49af17) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:38 pm@lloyd@337 You throw a rock in Denver and you’ll hit someone I’m related to. Half of them are from Aurora (my great great grandfather headed one of the founding families), one is a cop, the another a firefighter. Venezuelan gangs are almost vaporware. Aurora had most of it’s gang issues back in the early-mid 90s.
Nic (120c94) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:56 pmAurora police also deny Trump-Vance lies. Blue Lives Matter, no?
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 8:58 pmPaul, armed militias are threatening FEMA, based on no proof at all. An email, that’s it. Right? Believable! Truth! We’ve had numerous stories about Venezuelan gangs in the bubble media for months. First person accounts. Not just Aurora, but NYC and other locales. Fake! Lies!
As Vance said, “Do you hear yourself?!”
lloyd (49af17) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:08 pmUh oh, Tre Fo/Tre/Deuce operating in Denver metro
Uh oh, Rolling 30’s operating in Denver metro
Oh oh, Gallant Knights Insane operating in Denver metro
Uh oh, Colorado might someday have as many gangs as Texas, or Missouri, or Oklahoma. I mean, not now, but someday.
It’s almost like large metro’s have gangs, and rural areas have gangs. I’m not sure why a Venezuelan gang is worse than the crips, bloods, aryan nation, Sicilians, Russians…some of them don’t speak English too.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:12 pmAs you said, lloyd, you are as you comment. Never mind that the mayor and the PD are disputing the Trump-Vance lies. They live there, they’re the ones who know what’s going on with crime in that city.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:18 pmLike any good Leftist, Klink is good with every gang coming across the border because, I mean, we already have a gang problem. Maybe they can all take each other out with fentanyl, says Einstein.
lloyd (49af17) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:19 pmYo, that why I always roll strapped in the 40014.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:20 pm@342 Paul, I can’t wait for you to dump water on the FEMA story. Let me know when you post that comment.
lloyd (49af17) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:21 pmThe Aurora Mayor is a “Liz Cheney” Republican, by which I mean a Republican whose constituents are about to vote them out of the party and then will be proven right when the Mayor endorses the most leftist candidate in recent history
I think this should be like one of those cases where they sentence the slumlord to live in his own building. I tend to believe the people who live there more than the Mayor who does a drive by with his cops swarming the place. Here is the deal. There should not be one building like this. Gang members are not supposed to be let into the country, but if they are, they are supposed to not break the law. If they film themselves and go on social media handling firearms, they should be deported-for breaking the law. They kicked around the cops in NYC? Back to Caracas.
1. They should not be here
2. They should be removed for breaking our laws
3. I’m so old I can remember when the host said “deport the criminals first” and we all agreed. Now its more like “well, if Trump wants them out, then I think they should stay”
Trump getting rid of those particular Venezuelans is a good thing and I really don’t care if his rhetoric is mean. Walk the straight and narrow or go home. We’ve got enough homegrown idiots without importing new ones
I used to get in arguments here with people because they felt I was to pro-immigrant. I still am, but there are criminal elements in the Haitians, the Congolese, the Venezuelans and they should go. I saw there was a Mexican guy, 3rd DUI the local PD sheltered from ICE. Send him back. Its a privilege to be here, not a right
steveg (292c87) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:28 pmhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13960163/Woman-forced-home-influx-Venezuelan-Tren-Aragua-gang-members-airs-furious-message.html
lloyd (49af17) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:53 pmWell, his term started 10 months ago, so I kind of doubt he’s about to be voted out.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 9:58 pmYou need to think of better things to do with your life, lloyd.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:52 pmAurora is really the same pattern as Springfield.
Trump starts with his stupid lie, Vance defends the stupid lie and adds his own bit of lying spin to it, and then all the MAGAs swarm in and carry their water, defending the stupid lie.
Rinse and repeat.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/14/2024 @ 10:59 pmUhh, this happened.
I know that 2 folks fainted, but to just blow off the town hall part of the town hall and turn it into a terrible version of Studio 54 seems like a strange thing to do.
Hey, he lied exponentially less, that’s a plus. How he lied less makes him seem more mentally defective not less.
Also, his campaign should really be canned, this is the closing 3 weeks. This with the aircon and Coachella with the forgetting the return buses does not make for a look of competence.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/14/2024 @ 11:26 pm@Col Klink@351 I don’t think anything Trump does, other than collapse (and maybe not that), will make any kind of difference at this point, either way. Everyone knows who he is. His crazypants Trumpness is already built in.
Nic (120c94) — 10/15/2024 @ 12:33 amI want someone to find a true blue undecided about who they’d vote for…and feed them some sodium pentathol, because I don’t believe a word they’re saying.
Now, there are probably some that can’t be bothered to get off the couch. But you’re probably right, there aren’t 13 people in the swing states to convince to choose. You’re going to have to go find granny and drive her to the precinct.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 2:11 amYou people, you people, you just don’t understand what’s at stake for Mr. Trump here. If he doesn’t win this election, he could go to prison. And even if he avoids prison, Putin will recall Melania as his controller and replace her with Jill Stein.
nk (6c45b4) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:14 amYes, comrades, there is a foreign criminal gang which threatens to overrun America. It calls itself MAGA and is controlled from the Kremlin.
nk (7e8ecc) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:39 amhttps://nypost.com/2024/10/14/us-news/aurora-landlord-says-tren-de-aragua-took-over-apartment-tried-to-extort-them/
I mean… ignore your lying eyes if you want…
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 7:27 amSome years ago, I recall reading a poll about stealing campaign signs. You will be shocked to learn that many Republicans thought it was OK to steal Democratic signs — and that many Democrats thought it was OK to steal Republican signs.
That type of mistake is common, to say the least, but those who make it look foolish.
Jim Miller (b195ff) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:30 amStealing campaign signs in California is considered petty theft (Penal Code Section 488), but I’ll bet it’s rarely enforced. One way to track down sign thieves is to attach an Apple air tag.
In California, it’s also illegal for a landlord to prohibit a tenant from posting political signs (Cal. Civ. Code § 1940.4).
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:47 amMore on the Aurora CO slumlords…
And there’s more here and here. It wasn’t that gangs, Venezuelans or otherwise, took over their apartments, they let gangsters come in, through their own mismanagement and neglect. But things like what actually happened don’t matter to a serial liar like Donnie and his docile parroty minion, whose birth-certificate name is James David Hamel. Because, just like in Springfield OH, things like facts and the truth don’t matter, it’s about Trump’s lying racist ploy to scare Americans about brown-skinned immigrants occupying and conquering America, all in order to get those scareable Americans to vote for him. It’s the lowest form of political opportunism, fascist even.
Seriously, we’ve dealt with Trump’s rank lies and bullsh-t on the political scene for nine years. This isn’t new, but it is getting worse, because Trump is a mentally ill “man” with irreversible dementia, who’d rather sway to his playlist for 39 minutes than answer questions that we know would be filled with argle bargle, incoherence, tw@ttery and lies.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:52 amMore good news on nuclear power.
For years I have been saying that, if you think global warming is a serious problem — and can do arithmetic — you will favor nuclear power.
For example, I don’t doubt that Washington’s governor, Jay Inslee, genuinely worries about global warming. But I do doubt whether he can do arithmetic.
(Google may be doing this partly for political reasons, of course.)
Jim Miller (b195ff) — 10/15/2024 @ 9:06 amSurreal:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 9:07 am@359
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:52 am
That’s a ‘Cover Your Ass’ statement if I ever seen.
Government officials surely wouldn’t lie to us…
Right?
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 9:38 am@360
Yup. The planned base load needed for future AI development is being constrained by near exponential increases in cost.
Only nuclear can stabilize that.
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 9:40 amYet a slumlord would be truthful? There’s a documented record on this slumlord.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 10:13 am@364
Why this “slumlord” descriptor?
Soo…
what?
The property owners deserves this?
Smacks to me that you’re hand-waving this away that the proper owners’ skirt is too short.
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 10:40 amElon Musk on sending people to Mars:
Getting the cost per ton to the surface of Mars low enough that humanity has the resources to make life multiplanetary requires a roughly 1000X improvement in rocket & spacecraft technology.
Recent US Mars missions have had a cost per ton of useful load to the surface of Mars of about $1B. Moreover, it has become more, not less, expensive over time!
To build a city on Mars that can grow by itself likely requires at least a million tons of equipment, which would therefore require >$1000 trillion, an obviously impossible number, given that US GDP is only $29T.
However, if rocket technology can be improved by 1000X, then the cost of becoming sustainably multiplanetary would drop to ~$1T, which could be spread out over 40 or more years, so 1000X improvement over existing systems and, especially after yesterday’s booster catch and precise ocean landing of the ship, I am now convinced that it can work.
steveg (292c87) — 10/15/2024 @ 11:33 amDefault mode for ALL politicians is Spin Cycle- which is a skillful misdirectional lie.
They will quibble over what constitutes a “handful”, they will minimize impact, maximize what constitutes “control”. Just because they oppose Trump doesn’t mean they are not lying.
This is a weird time where the enemy of my enemy must be a paragon.
Lets take Liz Cheney and her endorsement of Harris.
Harris in her various roles, speeches in CA politics has shown herself to be a horrible person who would be horrible for the country. Antithetical to everything Liz used to claim the Cheney brand stood for. Liz must have been lying to us about who she really was, what she really believed because add Trump into the mix and Liz suddenly indulges in human alchemy- Harris is now good for the country and is a good person to vote for- Cheney family values approved ***** stars
No, Harris is not, and will not, be good for the country. She remains the bad person with bad policies.
How about if we just use venomous snakes and the LD50 test (LD50 is Lethal Dose =50% The finishing point of the LD50 test is when half of the animals in the group have died. The amount of test substance that kills half the animals gives the LD50 figure)
#1 is Australia’s Fierce Snake which has a bite that can produce 110mg of the most toxic of venoms. That one bite produces enough of a venom dose to kill 100 humans.
#5 is the Tiger Snake which kills more people than any other snake. It’s venom is #5 but the snake is f-ing Aggressive
Which one does Liz want to put into your tent
steveg (292c87) — 10/15/2024 @ 12:41 pmSure, but that 40 years starts in 150 years, maybe 250. Technology advancement in launch capability has actually decreased since the 70’s. Musk has said that Falcon Heavy is heaviest lift rocket in existence except for the Soviet Energia and NASA Saturn V.
The SLS is basically a failed product, so for the US it’s Falcon Heavy or nothing.
The current launch cost is $117M per ton, as it’s a monopoly and costs have dramatically increased. Musk said it will be $10M/t within 2-3 years, and $2M is the goal.
The Mars network will require a 4th gen launch platform, and require over 1000 launches. If you believe the timeline, we should be launching Falcon Heavy’s replacements replacement today. Currently the replacement is in test, major milestone last week, but the timeline is vastly longer, the cost exponentially higher for decades at least.
No one is alive today that will colonize Mars. Maybe their grandkids or great grandkids will. And realistically it’s probably 2 or 3 after that.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 12:54 pmThe requirement to develop a plan for Mars is General AI. Seed Mars with HAL and robots, and 50 years later send people.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 12:56 pmThat’s not a snake, steveg. It’s a garden hose to wash an unclean thing back into the sewer it oozed out from.
nk (1a7685) — 10/15/2024 @ 12:56 pmBTW, Trump appears to have fallen behind Biden on mental competency. Not just his normal lunacy, but the stress of the campaign has shown a level of senility that is shocking.
The dems saw it, and booted Biden. So a vote for Trump is actually voting for Vance to be president, in Feb or so. How long does it take to invoke the 25th?
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:11 pmThere’s a reason that Musk, Thiel and co are such major Trump backers, but Vance is actually their guy.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:13 pmRidiculous and wrong. He has a record, hence slumlord.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:30 pmUpset:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:31 pmDisappointing:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:49 pmThis is what I mean by “new rules” in the effort to use lawfare against Trump.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/10/biden-harris-doj-goes-to-bat-for-illegal-aliens-against-virginians/
If that’s the standard, then by golly that same standard must be applied in the other direction.
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:53 pmAmerica’s Team takes it on the chin, again and again:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 1:59 pmIf integrity was dynamite, Andrew C. McCarthy would not have enough to blow his nose. A big, sloppy, wet kiss for Trump … that he will always have.
nk (6c45b4) — 10/15/2024 @ 2:12 pm@379
The fact that you think McCarthy is this MAGA figure shows how little you know about him.
whembly (477db6) — 10/15/2024 @ 2:46 pmWell, Trump, when asked today if he’s been negotiating with Putin for the last 4 years…”Well, it would be smart if I had”
Illegal? Yes, unAmerican? Yes. Traitorous? Quite possibly.
Best case, he’s lying about talking to Putin. Worst, he’s actually promising Putin things. It’s Trump, I suppose the former is quite possible, and fits with the fact that he’s always lying. The worst case is pretty bad.
I’d like to know MAGA’s defense of either.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 3:11 pm“I didn’t particularly like it. I played tight end, I could catch the ball good, but I didn’t particularly like having some guy who was lifting weights all day long and came from a bad neighborhood … they were tackling hard. And I had a quarterback without much of an arm.”
So, he’s a pu$$y and didn’t want to be touched by those vermin. Cool.
None of his schtick is new, he’s been a pansy blowhard and racist for all 78 years, shocking.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 3:23 pmMore:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:00 pmI don’t like linking to a Kremlin amplifier like ZeroHedge, but this…the path to expanding nuclear energy is through the private, more particularly Big High Tech.
This feels like some sort of breakthrough.
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:01 pm…private sector…
Paul Montagu (8ea9f6) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:01 pmMay be illegal, but Kerry and Clinton both did it
steveg (292c87) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:07 pmI don’t much care who Trump talks to on the phone, I’d guess Xi, Putin, Netanyahu, Pudgy Li”l Rocket Fellow, maybe even Zelensky (once the room has be swept for Vindman’s)
Would not be shocked to hear of anyone in the EU or UK. Trump has probably called Denmark now and then to ask again about what it would take to buy Greenland. If I remember right maybe Modi got along with Trump. The Saudi’s and Jordanians probably “check in”.
Probably not a lot of calls from 3rd world countries he’s called – correctly in some instances- sh!th0les.
This nice young woman shows us the best of technology
steveg (292c87) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:19 pmhttps://x.com/i/status/1846193753184211442
Wuff…
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:20 pmWuff…link
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:21 pmMarket Manipulation?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:29 pmProbably legal manipulation trolling for preset buy/sell triggers
steveg (e81d76) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:42 pmLook at the volume, it’s tiny, so a small (relative) set of buys/sells will dramatically impact price.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 4:47 pmTrump Media & Technology will be in single digits in either late 2024, or early 2029. 2029 is too far away to tie up money and 2024 is too risky
Check out the activity in the options chains here
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/djt/option-chain
Lots of speculation, hedging going on
Alvin Bragg charges Trump over Trump Media on day after Inaugural day if Trump wins
steveg (292c87) — 10/15/2024 @ 5:04 pmI actually liked Trump swaying to music for 38 minutes….a nice change of pace. I also thought it was special how Kristi Noem tried her best to roll with it. I still actually think she is Trump’s true electoral soulmate. Anyone who would do Y-M-C-A to kill time at an election rally….well, is a keeper. Mesmerizing….
AJ_Liberty (f8d10d) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:32 pmIf by MAGA you mean all-in for Trump, then yes, McCarthy is MAGA. Like J.D. Vance, Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz, he found Trump unfit for office, then mortgaged his dignity for a ticket on the Trump train. He may not have declared the slavish fealty Trump demands of his politician toadies, but he finds a way to whatabout, false-equate, and otherwise excuse one indefensible Trumpism after another, while showing no such generosity for Harris.
The cynical explanation is McCarthy, Vance, Cruz and Graham all lack Liz Cheney’s commitment to principle over power. The generous one is they believe Trump is unfit, but, like you, they believe any Democrat is worse. Either way, the controlling commitment is anti-anti-Trump. As with all double negatives, the result is a single, in this case pro-Trump, positive. In other words, anti-anti Trump is effectively indistinguishable from MAGA, and McCarthy’s anti-anti bona-fides are well established.
lurker (c23034) — 10/15/2024 @ 8:37 pmThis is the best part of Trump’s Disco party.
Also…
OMG she has hay fever and an allergy!!!!
Says the guy who decided the other old guy with a brain worm is a genius.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/15/2024 @ 9:34 pmOn the woof above…
I know, it’s shocking buuut…when asked, Alphabet stated categorically that no one from Alphabet has spoken to Trump since March of 2019.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:30 am1. And I called the head of Google the other day, and I said, I’m getting a lot of good stories lately. But you don’t find them in Google.
nk (9565c8) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:55 amPLUS
1. Alphabet stated categorically that no one from Alphabet has spoken to Trump since March of 2019.
EQUALS
2.
DementiaTrump. For a normal person, five and half years being “the other day” could indicate dementia. For Trump, it could merely be the 5,763,484th lie he’s told.Trump’s not talking about 2019 and he didn’t have a conversation like that then and Alphabet isn’t saying he did. His story is just a lie.
Somebody maybe told that to Trump at one point, but it wasn’t the head of Google speaking to him.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:10 amNot true. Empirically false. And notice the weasel word “likely.”
Deficits don’t cause inflation, although occasionally they cause the Federal Reserve Board to raise interest rates which in turn causes inflation.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:15 amAfter yesterday’s debate where Cruz demolished Allred by showing his actual voting record time and time again, it’s clear that anyone who supports Allred is not a Republican or someone that supports the success of the United States of America.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:20 am74.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:25 amHarris’ political consultants are really stupid and don’t understand what their own polls mean.
I don’t think Obama is that stupid, but his interest in campaigning is not to help win an election but to remain in good standing with the elite of the Democratic Party. It’s a really really stupid argument he used – based on the idea that black men support Harris but just are not interested in voting. The reason she does better with women is a series of lies about abortion. She’s not doing worse with men.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:30 amnk is not saying that Andrew C. McCarthy is a MAGA figure – just not honest in what he’s writing. Partisan maybe.
Sammy Finkelman (e0dccb) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:33 amBad idea.
First, I don’t believe it. Second he’d go after criminals who served their sentences long ago and have aged out of crime.
Sammy Finkelman (e0dccb) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:35 amIn exchange for higher rent or kickbacks.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:39 amTrump’s dementia and malignant narcissism were on full display at the Bloomberg event. Practically nothing he said was true.
We could very well have a demented crazy person as Leader of the Free World. His getting elected could be the biggest fraud in history.
Paul Montagu (e74931) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:55 amGeorgia on my mind:
A record number of votes were cast on the first day of early voting in Georgia-328,000. The previous record was 136,000 in 2020.
A Fulton County judge blocked the State Election Board’s new rule requiring counties to hand count ballots on Election Day, saying it would cause “administrative chaos” given the limited time to train poll workers. It is likely to be appealed. The Board is facing a “barrage” of lawsuits from both Democrats and Republicans.
The same Fulton County judge ruled in a different lawsuit that certifying election results is a “mandatory” duty of county election officials and that ” “no election superintendent (or member of a board of elections and registration) may refuse to certify or abstain from certifying election results under any circumstance.”
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:02 amRegarding yesterday’s event and Trump’s “answers” on tariffs and whatnot, the Bloomberg guy should’ve taken a page from Billy Madison…
Paul Montagu (e74931) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:13 amWhy isn’t Chris Christie supporting Harris?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:20 amFoxNews is trying to drag the demented Trump across the finish line, cutting out the fascist part of his comment to Bartiromo. Last night, Hannity was trying to get everyone to clap harder after Trump’s debacle at the Bloomberg economic forum.
Paul Montagu (e74931) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:25 amPlease America, don’t vote for dementia mentally illness.
…dementia and mental illness.
Paul Montagu (e74931) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:26 am[Trigger warning for Rip: contains wild speculation and facts not in evidence]
So, Biden says that Trump is only running to avoid jail. Suppose it’s basically true.
So, the “House of Cards” scenario: Trump is elected, but a deal is struck for his resignation, with both GA and NY pardoning him and or dropping charges. Then Trump is pardoned for his federal crimes while president. And JD Vance achieves his ambition. Later, given an opportunity, appoints his wife to the Supreme Court.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:31 amFoxNews is trying to drag the demented Trump across the finish line
Meanwhile, Drudge attempts to do the same for Harris, linking every pro-Harris or anti-Trump story on the Internet regardless of accuracy.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:32 amIn other state election-related litigation news:
The Nebraska Supreme Court ruled that the persons with felony convictions and have completed their sentences can register to vote. The Nebraska enacted a law allowing individuals with felony convictions to register to vote after completing the terms of their sentences. However, the State Attorney General issued a non-binding opinion that the law violated the state constitution; and the Secretary of State ordered local election officials to reject registration applications of with prior felony convictions unless they were specifically pardoned by the Nebraska Board of Pardons.
In a per curiam opinion, the Court ruled that under the Nebraska Constitution,
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:33 amcriminals who served their sentences long ago and have aged out of crime.
Yeah, that happens a lot.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:34 amFrom a NYT interview published last Friday:
In the end, who cares? A Haley endorsement of Harris would have been much more influential than one from Christie. But if Haley thought she would gain any influence with Trump by her “full throated” endorsement at the convention, she is sadly mistaken. She will never be MAGA enough for the Trump wing of the Republican Party.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:48 amReminder: The Loser once tried to bribe Harris.
Reminds me of the Mafia boss in The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight, who tried to bribe every pol who might be able to help him,
Jim Miller (89e19f) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:54 amCorrection: Haley will never be MAGA enough for the ascendent Trump wing of the Republican Party.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:58 amIn the end, who cares? A Haley endorsement of Harris would have been much more influential than one from Christie. But if Haley thought she would gain any influence with Trump by her “full throated” endorsement at the convention, she is sadly mistaken. She will never be MAGA enough for the Trump wing of the Republican Party.
She would never be a candidate of the GOP if she failed to endorse Trump. It’s against the politician code. If Trump loses and there is an open competition for the GOP nomination in 2024, she will be one of the favorites, competing with DeSantis and Vance. MAGA will be a force, but a pretty spent one.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 10:00 amLOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 10:04 amMcCain lost to W, then Romney lost to McCain, then everyone lost to Romney. The GOP tends to favor 2nd place last time.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 11:13 amNoticed that the DOJ decided having math on firefighter exams creates racial disparity
One question was:
Your Captain determines that 350ft of hose is needed to reach the burning vehicle.
If the hoses on the apparatus are 60ft in length, what is the minimum number of lengths of hose needed
A: 3
steveg (04876c) — 10/16/2024 @ 11:15 amB: 4
C: 5
D: 6
The DOJ should be investigating the schools these applicants attended
steveg (04876c) — 10/16/2024 @ 11:17 am@395
Another tell that you really don’t understand, or kept up to McCarthy’s writings.
He’s said, over and over again that he’s not voting for Trump and that Trump really has a tall order in winning.
I’m anti-anti Trump camp… in that, in my view, he’s eons better than any current crop of Democrats.
McCarthy is not. He’s not voting for Trump. End of story.
What he does, is takes acute pains to separate the hyperbolic politics of the issues to that of criminal/penal laws. Something that our host has issues with.
So, no, your discriptor that McCarthy is on the “Trump” train doesn’t hold water.
whembly (477db6) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:07 pm@404
nk is wrong if that’s his position then.
To this day, nk doesn’t engage on the sustenance of things like McCarthy’s writings (or that I recalled of recently).
It’s always some snarky “but, Donnie didn’t get a cookie!” inanities.
whembly (477db6) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:10 pm@413
I don’t even think the producers would greenlight that on Amazon.
whembly (477db6) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:13 pmGreat to see Paul’s dementia detector is working after being on the fritz all through the Biden years.
lloyd (6d6131) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:16 pmThat Republican Party died in 2016. Four years from now, whether Trump wins or loses, nobody will remember Nikki Haley.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:35 pm@376 whembly, thanks for posting that article by McCarthy. Speaks volumes on where this DOJ is on election integrity.
So far, no counterpoints on the substance — just the usual comical ad homs from nk and lurker.
lloyd (6d6131) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:38 pmLOL! You’re right, this is nonsensical.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:40 pmJimmy Carter casts a early vote for Harris. Should he (God forbid) pass before the election, do they have to back out his vote?
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:42 pmI don’t even think the producers would greenlight that on Amazon.
No, but they’d have no problem with a show having him nuking California.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:43 pm‘Evil’ super gang seizes four apartment complexes in major Texas city in new terrifying show of strength
Let me assist the Harris supporters with counterpoints:
1. It’s only a handful of apartments.
lloyd (6d6131) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:50 pm2. But, it’s not Aurora!
3. We already had a gang problem anyway.
4. Daily Mail isn’t credible like bubble media.
5. Don’t believe your lying eyes.
ABC News Argues 9/11 Overblown As It Was ‘Only A Handful Of Buildings’.
lloyd (6d6131) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:52 pmOuch!
Putting on my Sammy Finkelman hat, when Trump says “I’m the father of IVF” I think he means he became a father through IVF.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 1:02 pmhttps://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-virginia-violating-federal-laws-prohibition-systematic-efforts
So take your Andrew C. McCarthy and put him on your shelf with your Walter Duranty.
nk (5401ee) — 10/16/2024 @ 1:28 pmGeorge Will believes that “World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.”
source
I am inclined to agree with him, on both claims.
Jim Miller (ae0a5d) — 10/16/2024 @ 1:46 pm423. The correct answer is 6. You can always use a hose longer than necessary, Tests for firefighters were/are accused of benefitting people with family involved in firefighting.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:31 pmIn that case World War II started in 1931 with the Japanese invasion of Manchuria.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:33 pmKevin M (a9545f) — 10/16/2024 @ 12:42 pm
If somebody challenges the vote (before opening it) probably yes. If they counted it, no.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:39 pmis probably correct, or at least a crime problem,but they’ll never say it.
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:43 pmBy “father” Trump means the biggest supporter (now at least)
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:45 pmHe would be the father if it had just been proposed, He’d invest in it,
Sammy Finkelman (c2c77e) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:47 pmIt’s sad how MAGAs so easily resort to lying. I’ve said since before the 2020 election that Biden is mentally diminished. Quote: “That said, I think Joe is mentally diminished but, then, so is his opponent. Hopefully, the debates will decide which person has lost more in the acuity department.” –9/16/2020
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/16/2024 @ 2:53 pm423. The correct answer is 6. You can always use a hose longer than necessary, Tests for firefighters were/are accused of benefitting people with family involved in firefighting.
The correct answer is: “This is a horsesh!t test. Firefighting is not a classroom exercise. You want a fireman who can look where the fire is, look at the hose segments, and know at a glance how many segments he will need. It’s call spatial perception and there are tests which measure that. Use them!”
nk (5401ee) — 10/16/2024 @ 3:02 pm6 months ago you were stumped on what to do because none of the candidates had run into mental health issues, Paul.
BuDuh (aae926) — 10/16/2024 @ 3:08 pmNice trolling, BuDuh, but your stalking skills fell short.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/16/2024 @ 4:15 pmI’ve said more than once that, when Biden was in the race, the choice was between Mentally Diminished v. Mentally Deranged.
Harris and Baeir were pretty good. Contentious but going on fox showed bravery. I’d like to see trump with Maddie now.
I don’t think she convinced one person to change their vote, but that’s where we are. Undecided are a fallacy
Colonel Klink (ret) (301152) — 10/16/2024 @ 4:23 pmThe Biden administration has a terrible record on immigration, but Trump had a terrible record on immigration too and then there’s everything else too.
Colonel Klink (ret) (301152) — 10/16/2024 @ 4:24 pmBiden was mentally impaired, and the Democrats somehow managed to get him off the ticket, which actually surprised me considering the state of Democratic party leadership. Trump is also mentally impaired, but there’s zero chance he gets pulled. In 4 years he’ll be as bad or worse than Biden is now.
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 4:42 pmMy on point response to whembly wasn’t ad hominem. Do you not know what ad hominem means, or did you intentionally mischaracterize my comment?
lurker (c23034) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:04 pmMore Georgia on my mind:
Other SEB rules that were overturned were:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:19 pmNo, not voting for Trump is not “end of story.” Paul Montegu isn’t voting for Harris. Does that make him any less NeverTrump? Like Paul, McCarthy lives in an uncontested state (New York). Move him to Pennsylvania and I’ll be impressed if he still isn’t voting for Trump.
lurker (c23034) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:21 pmThe “ad hominem fallacy” fallacy (sic) is that it applies to anything other than abstract debate. Like saying that you cannot take a basketball home from the store because that’s traveling. “Dude, that’s like only when you’re playing!”
In the real world, character matters. Prior conduct matters. Bias matters. Partisanship matters. Pedigree matters. FICO score matters. Anything that tends to make the proponent more or less credible matters.
There are other words for what you mean when you say “ad hom”. “Invective” is a good one if you want to be fancy, but “name-calling” always hits the spot.
nk (bf0c98) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:41 pmlurker (c23034) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:21 pm
nk (bf0c98) — 10/16/2024 @ 6:41 pm
Guys, that’s really interesting. Anyway… were you interested in addressing the substance of that article?
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:08 pmI did, lloyd, in my comment 437.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-virginia-violating-federal-laws-prohibition-systematic-efforts
(Personal remarks omitted.)
nk (bf0c98) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:17 pm@457 Then you didn’t read the article, because McCarthy addresses that directly.
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:23 pmThe article is behind a paywall, so why not explain how he addresses it?
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:37 pm@459 I don’t subscribe, haven’t paid a cent to NRO, and I can read it fine. Whatever…
As is said, read the whole thing.
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 7:54 pmDishonest artisan claptrap. That’s why I said what I said initially.
nk (bf0c98) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:02 pm*partisan*
nk (bf0c98) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:04 pmThe prospect of North Korea entering the iron sights shooting end of the ongoing Ukraine chemistry project is interesting. I can see the US being very reluctant to allow Ukraine to use US weapons on the North Koreans
steveg (04876c) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:05 pmMy guess is the US will work with the UK or Scandinavians reach out long range and use their weapons to hit the North Koreans before they reach the front. They should be easy to find.
I am in favor of giving NK an entirely negative wartime experience. Jake Sullivan will be worried sick that Li’l Rocket teletubby will respond to any butt kicking by attacking US troops in S. Korea.
@461 So that’s your legal argument, nk? Figures.
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:07 pmI think “artisan claptrap” worked just fine. Upgrade to “artisan jibberjabber” and you’ve really put lipstick on the dummy
steveg (04876c) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:08 pmHis argument is nonsense. The only part that could theoretically carry weight is “the state can only challenge and remove aliens from the rolls on a case-by-case basis, not systematically”. But “systematically” and “case-by-case” are not antonyms. In fact the provided exceptions (criminals, dead people, incompetence) would be applied on a case-by-case basis.
With that argument removed, the rest is irrelevant. The law says there’s a 90 day cutoff, period.
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:27 pmSuch deep concern for the Rule of Law doesn’t seem to extend to the law that says millions are here illegally. Period. Your interest in allowing illegal aliens to vote is clear, your contorted objections notwithstanding. We’ll see how the courts rule.
And for pasting in that wall of text, you’re welcome.
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:41 pm“Such deep concern for the Rule of Law doesn’t seem to extend to the law that says millions are here illegally. Period. Your interest in allowing illegal aliens to vote is clear, your contorted objections notwithstanding. We’ll see how the courts rule.”
How many legal voters would you disenfranchise to stop a single illegal vote? In your (and McCarthy’s) case, the answer appears to be “unlimited” as long as it’s more Democrats that Republicans.
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:58 pm*than Republicans
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 8:59 pm@468 “How many legal voters would you disenfranchise to stop a single illegal vote?”
The answer is zero.
I guess you skipped this part:
“Plus, as we’ve seen, state law allows challenged persons to vote as long as they attest under oath to being citizens. Ergo, the Biden-Harris DOJ cannot even pretend that it is protecting citizens from being inadvertently purged — legitimate American citizens simply need to attest that they are citizens; if the attestation is true, they needn’t fear subsequent prosecution.”
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:10 pm“The answer is zero.”
Messing with the voter rolls this close to the election will result in a non-zero number of legal voters being removed without notice.
““Plus, as we’ve seen, state law allows challenged persons to vote as long as they attest under oath to being citizens. Ergo, the Biden-Harris DOJ cannot even pretend that it is protecting citizens from being inadvertently purged — legitimate American citizens simply need to attest that they are citizens; if the attestation is true, they needn’t fear subsequent prosecution.””
I didn’t skip it, I said it was irrelevant.
Davethulhu (05d4c3) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:24 pm@471 “Messing with the voter rolls this close to the election will result in a non-zero number of legal voters being removed without notice.”
That isn’t what you’re worried about.
lloyd (137446) — 10/16/2024 @ 9:41 pmFox stooge refuses to bring up abortion issue in interview. The floriduh fascist government threatens stations who run pro abortion initiative ads demanding they be pulled off the air. Biden administration allows their civil rights to be violated.
asset (fd8f37) — 10/16/2024 @ 10:32 pmKamala was an absolute disaster on Baier. She rambled, disembled, was incoherent and didn’t answer the questions, especially as it pertains to immigration.
Anyone who things she did a fair job is obviously trying to gaslight the public.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/17/2024 @ 3:31 amLloyd,
Thulu is a pro-antifa, partisan leftist.
Just thought you should be aware.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/17/2024 @ 3:32 amhttps://mrctv.org/blog/justine-brooke-murray/judenrein-columbia-univ-retaliates-against-jewish-professor-suspends-him
The anti-Semites run Columbia U and are “educating” our children.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 10/17/2024 @ 4:36 am@431
Chris (3d25b0) — 10/17/2024 @ 4:44 amGood question by Darth Putin…
It is odd, how Putin’s escalations are not condemned, while Putin’s friends lie that responding in self-defense to the invader’s escalation is somehow an escalation. Meantime, Biden is still tying Ukraine’s hands, prohibiting them from hitting legitimate military targets deeper into Russia.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/17/2024 @ 8:37 amMore bad news for the Hamas terrorists. Sinwar is eliminated.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/17/2024 @ 8:38 amThis is yet another reason why Trump is wholly unfit for president, his brazen lie that Zelenskyy is somehow responsible for Putin’s invasion. The lengths this motherf–king senescent manchild will go to defend Putin.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/17/2024 @ 8:47 amI wasn’t expecting Jordan Peterson to be a paid stooge by Russia Today, but he did spend his rehab in Russia, but no surprise about Tucker. This came from under-oath testimony by PM Trudeau.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/17/2024 @ 4:36 pmHi Paul
In 478 you spoke to the NK and escalation.
I hate Washington spin.
Sending the weapons we promised: Escalation
North Koreans possibly on Ukrainian sovereign territory? Not escalation
People are making a big deal out of the difficulties Russia will have in coordinating the NK with Russian troops given the language and cultural barriers, but they forget that the Russians were fairly successful using the Cubans as mercenaries in Africa.
I’m guessing that the NK’s will be used as manual labor. Loading and unloading shipments of munitions. Out of curiosity, I’d like to see how they do on the ground in a fighting role
steveg (04876c) — 10/17/2024 @ 5:37 pmI can’t remember where I read this, steve, but the motivation for Kim was to bring back some battle-tested NK soldiers from Russia.
Paul Montagu (a28670) — 10/17/2024 @ 5:43 pmthe Russians were fairly successful using the Cubans as mercenaries in Africa.
steveg (04876c) — 10/17/2024 @ 5:37 pm
Spanish is easier to learn, and has a much wider application, than Korean.
norcal (96628a) — 10/17/2024 @ 6:59 pmThirty years ago today.
Rip Murdock (c0c9f4) — 10/17/2024 @ 7:00 pmWe had 320,000 ROK (South Korea) soldiers in Vietnam. Combatant and noncombatant.
nk (6fbee9) — 10/17/2024 @ 7:40 pm