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9/5/2024

Donald Trump Admits He Lost the Election

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:15 am



[guest post by Dana]

I feel like this should be getting way more attention than it has:

Former President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged that he did not win the 2020 presidential election, telling podcaster Lex Fridman that he “lost by a whisker.”

Fridman asked the Republican nominee about his expectations for his debate next week against Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee, in a podcast episode released Tuesday.

Trump initially answered, “I’ve done a lot of debating … I’ve done well with debates,” before embarking on a tangent about the number of votes he received in 2020, saying: “I became president. Then the second time I got millions more votes than I got the first time.”

“I was told if I got 63 million, which is what I got the first time, ‘You would win. You can’t not win.’ And I got millions more votes than that and lost by a whisker,” Trump added

Trump admitting that he lost the election is no small thing. Especially when considering what he dragged the country through. From his election denial and efforts to overturn the results, to the violent insurrection on Jan. 6, to his rejection of a peaceful transfer of power, to his complete willingness to ignore the Constitution and the 60 court cases he lost concerning the said election. How do his supporters feel? It’s been years of his endless lies and denials about the election, and now he admits that he knew he lost? That’s got to sting.

Moreover, how do those hundreds of Trump supporters who went to jail for him, feel about their leader admitting that he lost the election? Because when you’ve lost the foul Nick Fuentes. . .

—Dana

53 Responses to “Donald Trump Admits He Lost the Election”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (942a23)

  2. I don’t think that means he didn’t think the election was stolen though.

    whembly (477db6)

  3. A month (or less) from now Trump will deny he ever said that.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  4. Oh?

    Putin says he wants Harris to win 2024 election https://t.co/eOpcjHHCQM

    — Axios (@axios) September 5, 2024

    whembly (477db6)

  5. Trump cultists hardest hit.
    Now they don’t know what to believe after Trump’s flip-flop.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  6. Putin says he wants Harris to win 2024 election https://t.co/eOpcjHHCQM

    Putin may be a bigger troll than Trump, but his “endorsement” is enough for the Orange Rubes.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  7. This elegant quote reminds me of the MAGA hordes…

    “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
    –Mark Twain

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  8. Odd Trump would tell the truth. I wonder if he’s feeling ok.

    Time123 (83908a)

  9. What makes you all think he believes it? Any more than he believed that he won in a landslide?

    This is Trump. Everything he says is a spiel for the rubes. Whatever works. And with the Deplorables, anything works.

    nk (9e6268)

  10. Trump said:

    .
    And I got millions more votes than that and lost by a whisker.

    Whembly @ 2,

    I don’t think that means he didn’t think the election was stolen though.

    What in the statement makes you think that? Because it seems pretty clear to me: either you believe he says what you he means, or he’s lying about it.

    Dana (3b8f45)

  11. Or the better question, Dana, is…was he lying then or lying now. Either way, he’s a liar.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  12. Putin says he wants Harris to win 2024 election https://t.co/eOpcjHHCQM

    — Axios (@axios) September 5, 2024

    whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:55 am

    I’m confident this is true, because Putin has a sterling reputation for honesty.

    norcal (027a30)

  13. Whose whisker? To quote somebody or other from where J. D. Vance comes from, “I ain’t never seen no whisker 7 million people across”.

    nk (9e6268)

  14. @10

    What in the statement makes you think that? Because it seems pretty clear to me: either you believe he says what you he means, or he’s lying about it.

    Dana (3b8f45) — 9/5/2024 @ 1:44 pm

    Why is it so hard to understand that on the one hand, you can say that you “lost by a whisker”, as Trump stated and at the same time believe there were election shenanigans in 2020?

    You can hold those two thoughts at the same time.

    whembly (477db6)

  15. Dictionary
    Definitions from Oxford Languages
    dou·ble·think
    /ˈdəbəlˌTHiNGk/
    noun
    the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination [or love].

    nk (9e6268)

  16. Corrected comment: What in the statement makes you think that? Because it seems pretty clear to me: either you believe he says what he means, or he’s lying about it.

    Apologies for sloppy wording…

    Dana (00e2e8)

  17. Here’s Trump’s latest word-salad “weave” on the child care problem in America.

    “Well, I will do that and we’re sitting down, you know, I was, uh, somebody, we had Sen. Marco Rubio and my daughter Ivanka were so, uh, impactful on that issue, it’s a very important issue, but I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about that because childcare is childcare is couldn’t, you know, is something you have to have it in this country, you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compare to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to but they’ll get used to it very quickly and it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including childcare, that it’s going to take care. We’re going to have, I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly very short period of time coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country because I have to stay with childcare, I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth. But growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about. We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it’s relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we will be taking in. We’re gonna make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re will going to care of our country first, this is about America First. It’s about Make America Great Again. We have to do it because right now we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it.”

    The man is mentally unraveled, mentally unfit, can’t even keep his lies straight.
    P.S. The video is even worse…

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  18. Why is it so hard to understand that on the one hand, you can say that you “lost by a whisker”, as Trump stated and at the same time believe there were election shenanigans in 2020?

    Except that Trump has never claimed these past four years that he “lost by a whisker”. Rather he’s only claimed that he *won* the election and that it was stolen from him.

    Dana (284941)

  19. He did not send 5,000-6,000 people to invade the Capitol because he lost by a whisker.

    nk (9e6268)

  20. Yes, Paul @ 11.

    Dana (ef5d15)

  21. Absolutely correct, nk.

    Dana (ef5d15)

  22. Extremism in the defense of preferred policies is no vice.

    – A Certain Commenter Here

    norcal (027a30)

  23. Time123 (83908a) — 9/5/2024 @ 12:27 pm

    Odd Trump would tell the truth. I wonder if he’s feeling ok.

    Trump may be getting tired of saying he won by a lot, at least saying that to people who don’t believe him.

    He’s been saying a lot of unusual for him things lately.

    The other day, instead of saying he wanted to deport 20 million people, he said he wanted (to start with at least) only the criminals) something close to that.

    Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09)

  24. He could have pardoned all those marks rubes suckers patriots, but he didn’t.

    Kevin M (a9545f)

  25. Earlier today I watched a Youtube video of Tom Brokow interviewing Ronald Reagan, three days before he left office. I know that people say that Reagan was mentally impaired by that time, but he appeared to be aware with an active mind.

    Neither Biden nor Trump would measure up to Reagan at 77 years of age. Not even close. Even Harris would have trouble matching him unscripted.

    Kevin M (a9545f)

  26. Here’s some word salad from Trump, this one on his tax policy and its effect on the deficit, pulled almost completely from his ass.
    People, this is cognitive and mental unfitness. Make it stop.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  27. This is what Kamala has to figure out, how to handle Trump’s gish-galloping in the upcoming debate, because Trump will turn that firehose on.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  28. @17, quite the ramble. How could 75% of the GOP think this is a good idea?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  29. AJ, Trump’s “ramble” at #26 is equally troubling. Trump’s brains are going to mush.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  30. I mean, even Trump’s Gettysburg Address, four short months ago, sounded more coherent than the gibberish he said today…

    “Gettysburg, wow—I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch, and the statement of Robert E. Lee, who’s no longer in favor—did you ever notice it? He’s no longer in favor. ‘Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.’ They were fighting uphill, he said, ‘Wow, that was a big mistake,’ he lost his great general. ‘Never fight uphill, me boys,’ but it was too late.”

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  31. Oh?

    Putin says he wants Harris to win 2024 election https://t.co/eOpcjHHCQM

    — Axios (@axios) September 5, 2024

    whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:55 am

    Did you watch the video of Putin making those remarks? He was obviously trolling. Here’s Pat’s reaction, below which you can click through to Putin’s video:

    The look on Putin’s face in this clip–and the reaction of everyone in the room–shows that everyone is in on the joke. The true audience for his “endorsement” consists of the stupidest people on the planet–mostly Trumpists like the guy below citing this clip on Twitter.

    lurker (c23034)

  32. Anyone who thinks that Putin really wants Harris to win the election is way too credulous. Putin obviously wants to hand the Republicans a talking point against Harris, saying “Look! She even got Putin’s endorsement!” If Trump wins, Ukraine is toast, and that has to be what Putin really wants.

    Roger (cda40f)

  33. @6

    Putin may be a bigger troll than Trump, but his “endorsement” is enough for the Orange Rubes.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08) — 9/5/2024 @ 11:54 am

    It was enough for you when the argument was made that Russia wanted Trump to win in 2016.

    Does that make you a Gullible Rube too?

    whembly (477db6)

  34. whembly (477db6) — 9/6/2024 @ 6:50 am

    What lurker said, whembly.
    Catch a clue.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  35. Oh, regarding Putin’s intent to have Trump, it wasn’t “the argument was made”, it was factually concluded in both the Mueller and Senate Intelligence Committee reports. Not honest.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  36. Senator Rand Paul

    – his campaign manager, Jesse Benton was convicted of funneling Russian money to Trump.

    – his father Ron Paul had his own show on Russia Today

    – his advisor, Dimitri Simes is an indicted Russian spy

    And Rand? He lives and breathes Kremlin talking points.

    The irony about Russian tools like Tim Pool and Dave Rubin was their accusing Hunter of being bribed while both accepting $100,000 a week a from Russia.
    Is this about Russia Russia Russia? Yes, yes it is, and it deserves to be.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  37. @34 Paul Montagu (01ae08) — 9/6/2024 @ 7:05 am
    Ya’ll sure about that?

    Because your trolling/sarcasm meters only seems to work one way.

    whembly (477db6)

  38. whembly, I’ll just note your wall of denial when you read things you don’t like, despite the facts, despite actual video that lurker showed you.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  39. @38 w

    hembly, I’ll just note your wall of denial when you read things you don’t like, despite the facts, despite actual video that lurker showed you.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08) — 9/6/2024 @ 7:34 am

    After the Russian Collusion Hoax Saga… you don’t get to have this “nuance”, and at the same time take the most absurd interpretation that confirms your biases.

    whembly (477db6)

  40. That impenetrable wall of denial including your false “Russian Collusion Hoax Sage”. Sad.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  41. It’s like when poor Mr. Trump wanted to say how much he loved cats, and when he met a childless cat lady he would just reach down and pick up her cat, just reach down and grab it, and everybody said that he meant something completely different, and said all kinds of bad things about him.

    nk (4d2f5a)

  42. SO UNFAIR!

    nk (4d2f5a)

  43. Don Jr. invited Natalia Veselnitskaya (I am more than mildly annoyed that I can still spell her name) to Trump’s campaign headquarters at Trump Tower because he, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner all were looking to adopt Russian babies.

    nk (4d2f5a)

  44. Good grief, and this denial at a time when a right-wing media operation was literally busted for Russian collusion (and I doubt the indictments will stop at Tenet Media).
    You can’t go on the internet without running across one right-wing grifter or another, oft times parroting Kremlin propaganda, and it’s irreparably damaged the credibility of this Republican Party.
    Burn this b-tch down is where I’m getting with this nonsense, especially when its mush-brain nominee is speaking incoherent gibberish, trying to pass it off as Trump Policy.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  45. Seriously, Trump’s gish-galloping and rambling and incoherence is just as bad–if not worse–than Biden’s last “we finally beat Medicare” debate performance, and so far Trump is getting a pass. Not from me, the stakes are too high.

    Paul Montagu (01ae08)

  46. I can see why BuDuh and lloyd and Rob took leave. It’s hard work constantly defending the indefensible.

    Paul Montagu (e4817e)

  47. It is, however, no secret that Iran is working to elect Harris.

    Kevin M (a9545f)

  48. @46

    I can see why BuDuh and lloyd and Rob took leave. It’s hard work constantly defending the indefensible.

    Paul Montagu (e4817e) — 9/6/2024 @ 8:46 am

    It’s hard work trying to convince those who insists on being stubborn.

    But, I’m a happy warrior, so alas, you’re stuck with me. 😉

    Look, I’ll agree with you that Trump has mountains… mountains of negatives.

    But, I don’t care because a Harris/Walz administration will be so much worse.

    whembly (477db6)

  49. @47

    It is, however, no secret that Iran is working to elect Harris.

    Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/6/2024 @ 8:59 am

    Bruh… what?

    whembly (477db6)

  50. Iran Emerges as a Top Disinformation Threat in U.S. Presidential Race (NYT free link)

    A website called Savannah Time describes itself as “your trusted source for conservative news and perspectives in the vibrant city of Savannah.” Another site, NioThinker, wants to be “your go-to destination for insightful, progressive news.” The online outlet Westland Sun appears to cater to Muslims in suburban Detroit.

    None are what they appear to be. Instead, they are part of what American officials and tech company analysts say is an intensifying campaign by Iran to sway this year’s American presidential election.

    Iran has long carried out clandestine information operations against its adversaries, especially Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United States, but until now most of its activities were conducted under the shadow of similar campaigns by Russia and China. Its latest propaganda and disinformation efforts have grown more brazen, more varied and more ambitious, according to the U.S. government, company officials and Iran experts.

    Iran’s efforts appear intended to undermine former President Donald J. Trump’s campaign to return to the White House, according to the officials and companies, but they have also targeted President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, suggesting a wider goal of sowing internal discord and discrediting the democratic system in the United States more broadly in the eyes of the world.

    Kevin M (a9545f)

  51. Look, I’ll agree with you that Trump has mountains… mountains of negatives.

    But, I don’t care because a Harris/Walz administration will be so much worse.

    I’m like the donkey between two dung piles.

    Kevin M (a9545f)

  52. @47

    It is, however, no secret that Iran is working to elect Harris.

    Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/6/2024 @ 8:59 am

    I think it wants to, but actually what it’s doing is working to elect Trump.

    They made the same mistake in 1980.

    Maybe they are realizing it. The first day of classes there was a picket line outside the gate of Columbia University, but they didn’t come back the next day

    Or some other intervention stopped that.

    Sammy Finkelman (c5132f)

  53. Now Putin knows how to use reverse psychology.

    Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09)

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