Liz Cheney Voting for Kamala Harris
[guest post by Dana]
When the priority is making darn sure that Donald Trump doesn’t step foot in the White House again because of the danger he poses, this is what you do:
Liz Cheney endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris at Duke University@newsobserver pic.twitter.com/taoMYNQ6d1
— Emma Cline (@emmacline_) September 4, 2024
Donald Trump, no matter what your policy views are—no matter if you are a conservative Republican or not—Donald Trump cannot be trusted with power. The power of the presidency is the most awesome power of any office anywhere in the world, and the character of the people we elect really matters. And, so what I say is, I understand the desire to think that you’re casting a vote for conservative policies, but—first of all, he is not a conservative, and he’s dangerous, and this is not a policy election, and we can talk about getting this country back on track once we get through this election cycle—but Donald Trump, if he is reelected, will be far more dangerous than we have ever seen before.
He has told us he believes you can terminate the Constitution. He’s gone to war with the rule of law. He repeatedly suggests that the people who assaulted and attacked the Capitol should be celebrated. He has said he will ignore the rulings of the courts. He won’t leave office. He is a risk that we simply can’t take, and he has to be defeated…
It is crucially important for people to recognize — not only is what I’ve just said about the danger Trump poses something that should prevent people from voting for him, but I don’t believe we have the luxury of writing in candidates’ names, particularly in swing states.
As a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the Constitution, I have thought deeply about this. And because of the danger that Donald Trump poses, not only am I not voting for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for Kamala Harris.
Good on Liz for backing up her words with action. No lip service for her. And what does it say that the Republican nominee is so reprehensible to so many Republicans that they would rather vote for a Democrat than vote for a man who has been found liable for sexual abuse, has attempted to overthrow legitimate election results, resisted a peaceful transfer of power, and faces a multitude of counts across four cases in which he has been charged? It says a heck of a lot about Trump, and none of it good.
—Dana
Hello.
Dana (fe2788) — 9/4/2024 @ 4:06 pmShe’s a great and brave American.
Paul Montagu (01ae08) — 9/4/2024 @ 7:36 pmTDS
David Longfellow (7b0977) — 9/4/2024 @ 7:53 pmDoes any one care what liz does?
asset (276846) — 9/4/2024 @ 9:44 pmDoes any one care what liz does?
#NeverTrump. And only #neverTrump.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/4/2024 @ 10:52 pmYeah, that guy is completely deranged.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 9/4/2024 @ 11:13 pmTCA. Trump Cootie Aversion.
nk (53764d) — 9/5/2024 @ 5:46 amYeah, I think it matters a lot what Liz does to people for whom things matter. She gave birth to five kids and she’s still more of a man than all the Comers, McCarthys. and Johnsons, and Lees, Rands, and Cruzes et ilk.
nk (53764d) — 9/5/2024 @ 5:54 amNo, it doesn’t matter.
She’s effectively “signing off” on the Biden/Harris & Harris/Walz policies, so there is that.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 6:31 am8&9. Do endorsements really matter? I expected that Liz C would endorse Harris, so not really thinking this drives movement.
With Trump, what strikes me is the lack of endorsements of his old Vice President and his First Term appointees. I am struck that W has been silent in the election, as well.
Appalled (3e6132) — 9/5/2024 @ 6:44 amSaying Trump is more dangerous doesn’t mean that you endorse all of the better options policies.
Normal people can have compromises, MAGAts, not so much.
Colonel Klink (ret) (96f56a) — 9/5/2024 @ 6:45 amDuke University is in North Carolina, and the race there is close.
I have admired her for many years for her intelligence, courage, and principles — and this endorsement gives me one more reason to admire her.
Jim Miller (c89be5) — 9/5/2024 @ 6:57 am@11
That’s not the new rules Klink.
If the right is supposed to bear the burdens of Tucker having a nazi apologist on his show, you don’t get to escape bearing the burdens of the politician’s policies you’re voting for.
I didn’t make these rules, but they’re being foisted on us. I’ll be damned if I don’t apply the same rules to everyone else.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:02 amHarris is a Baptist*, and Walz is a Lutheran. Vance is a Catholic.
Cheney is a Methodist.
And the Loser? Is he formally a member of any church?
*That startled me when I learned it, partly because the church is in San Francisco. (Her minister thinks she should attend more often.)
Jim Miller (c89be5) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:15 amI forgot to add the text of Cheney’s comments, and have now done so. Additionally, I bolded the main concerns of a future Trump presidency and the danger that he would present to the American people and to democracy itself.
Dana (5c2865) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:19 amThis means nothing other than one doesn’t want to discuss the issue on its merits but rather lazily assigns her thoughtful comments a silly accusation instead. As if it can’t be anything other than an impulsive attack on Trump, lacking any substance or evidence.
Dana (5c2865) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:22 am#13
Ah, whembly. So you are saying because some person says all Republicans are Nazis because Tucker has gone full nazi apologist, the rest of us should bear the burden of the rules enunciated by said person, and bear responsibility for bad policies announced by some of Kamela’s friends or something?
I’m sorry, but you are reasoning in circles again.
All I see from you these days are these lyrics from Ertha Kitt:
Source
Appalled (3e6132) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:27 am@17 “bad policies announced by some of Kamela’s friends or something?”
WTF man?
All you need to do is to listen to what Kamala have advocated for…
She pushed to do away with the filibuster:
https://twitter.com/toddntucker/status/1815456810133795234
She advocated to impeach Kavanaugh after his hearing and supported legislations to pack the Supreme Court.
In the 2020 primary campaign, she wanted to censor twitter at the time:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/elon-musk-rfk-claim-kamala-harris-wants-shut-down-x-unless-site-conforms-government-oversight
Not to mention advocating for job-killing business tax hikes, destroying private health insurance, banning fracking, slapping a carbon tax on every…she’s a walking/talking panoply of terrible policies if you would just listen to her.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 7:38 amwhembly,
Then write your #18, rather than your #13 “I get to be a meany because someone else (not necessarily you) is a meany.” One is an argument, the other is an excuse.
Appalled (3e6132) — 9/5/2024 @ 8:00 am@19
No. We must apply the same rules.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 8:05 am#20
You must be using this rulebook:
The Toddler’s Guide to Whiny Political Discourse
Appalled (3e6132) — 9/5/2024 @ 8:13 amThe only rules we have to live by are the ones we choose. Trump has chosen his rules, which oes not include the Rule of Law. Ignoring the Rule of Law is a disaster for America.
whembly wants us to think we have no choice in what rules we follow, but we do. Each of us has a choice, and choosing the worst rules says a lot about one’s character.
DRJ (029322) — 9/5/2024 @ 9:47 amWhembly, you appear to be complaining about ‘nut picking’. But in the Maga dominated GOP ppl like Carlson and Owen’s aren’t fringe characters desperate for attention. They’re within the mainstream thought of the party. I understand why you wish they weren’t.
Also, ppl like Chaney aren’t endorsing Harris because of her policies. They’re doing it despite her policies.
Time123 (317fd8) — 9/5/2024 @ 9:52 amHere’s an actual Harris policy proposal:
Jim Miller (c89be5) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:05 am@22
“Ignoring the Rule of Law”??
lol!
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:14 am@23
Not even close.
So?
I’ve criticized both when they take bad positions. I’m not exactly “in MAGA”, but people are allowed to disagree with on another.
My issue, is the attempt to smear other adjacent people/groups. That’s the “rule” I’m referring to.
eh… I disagree that Owen is “mainstream”.
And?
She’s also voting for the current Biden/Harris policies and for Harris’ agendas.
Cheney doesn’t have an ounce if integrity, especially since how she’s handled the J6 committee. She’s a political creature, who has lost stature and is simply having a tantrum.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:19 amIf Harris is elected, I would expect Cheney to be the token Republican in her cabinet. Secretary of Interior?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:56 amYou shouldn’t be. While I’m sure W isn’t a fan of Trump (because Trump’s entire political appeal comes from being a stick in the eye to the Republican establishment that W represents), W is still smart enough not to back Harris and her assault on the Constitution. W knows Trump is better for the country, he just can’t/won’t say it.
It’s for weasley reasons, but I can at least understand/respect them. Cheney’s just a grifter who’s looking for anyone who will book her.
SaveFarris (79ab12) — 9/5/2024 @ 10:59 amI would wager that W is NOT voting for Trump, but will either not weigh in because of his status as a past President or he might yet.
This is a question of fitness and respect for the law. Trump is unfit. Some will conclude that they must then vote for Harris; others will conclude to leave it blank or fill-in a suitable conservative.
W is somewhat classy and may not want to embarrass a past President and head of the GOP. Cheney does not belong to that select company of past Presidents or even Presidential candidates. She was involved in the J6 investigation and believes that Trump should be tried for his actions. It would be inconsistent with her committee’s findings for her NOT to vote against Trump and ensure he does not win. In the end, there’s not much surprise here….
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 9/5/2024 @ 11:11 amWorthy response to that Tucker podcast:
https://www.thefp.com/p/victor-davis-hanson-the-truth-about
VDH is as prominent as you can get in the rightwing sphere…
That’s the difference between the right and left… We’re willing to challenge folks who resides on the right when they’re wrong. You very rarely see that on the left spectrum.
whembly (477db6) — 9/5/2024 @ 11:30 amGWB has a long standing pledge not to criticize any former Presidents or politicians. It has nothing to do with Trump or Harris.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/5/2024 @ 11:33 amWell written respond to Cooper. Thank you for sharing. I’m glad the “Hitler wasn’t so bad” camp isn’t entirely accepted on the right.
Time123 (83908a) — 9/5/2024 @ 12:26 pmGoldman Sachs says Comrade Kamala is better for economy. She can’t even do communism right!
lurker (c23034) — 9/5/2024 @ 2:41 pmTDS
David Longfellow (7b0977) — 9/4/2024 @ 7:53 pm
This is one of those thought-terminating cliches employed by people who are incapable of deep thought.
norcal (027a30) — 9/5/2024 @ 2:42 pmMy comment in response to #3 is in moderation. If #3 can stand, why can’t mine?
norcal (027a30) — 9/5/2024 @ 2:54 pmTesting: ΤDS
nk (9e6268) — 9/5/2024 @ 3:29 pmIf you can see my #35, it’s because I used a Greek font for the T. #3’s is more likely Cyrillic. The filter will not recognize either.
nk (9e6268) — 9/5/2024 @ 3:33 pmI just released your comment, norcal.
Dana (8e9d2c) — 9/5/2024 @ 3:46 pmLOL is not a response, whembly. Americans have resisted when Trump and other Presidents ignored the Rule of Law.
DRJ (817828) — 9/5/2024 @ 4:21 pmIf Harris is elected, I would expect Cheney to be the token Republican in her cabinet. Secretary of Interior?
Hardly. That will be someone closer to the New Green Deal. Cheney might be Secretary of Commerce. Or Ambassador to Russia.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/5/2024 @ 4:36 pmThis is one of those thought-terminating cliches employed by people who are incapable of deep thought.
Indeed. Like LOL or “J6!”
Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/5/2024 @ 4:37 pmYou very rarely see that on the left spectrum.
Oh, you see it a lot, but just not on any axis you recognized. You should see Maoists and Trotskyites go at it.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/5/2024 @ 4:40 pmGoldman Sachs says Comrade Kamala is better for economy.
Not exactly. She’s better for Goldman Sachs. Consistently bad policy is at least predictable. Trump is anything but.
Kevin M (a9545f) — 9/5/2024 @ 4:42 pmSure, Kevin. Goldman Sachs economists don’t actually believe their own forecasts. That’s why nobody relies on them and they have no customers.
lurker (c23034) — 9/5/2024 @ 5:13 pm@39
I stopped reading that article when it posited “including his promise to govern as a dictator on “day one” “, because this author, and you, continually seeks to hyperbolize his statement.
The way you and this author wants to understand it, is that its “proof” that he’ll be a literal dictator doing some dictatory things.
The way you and this author really should understand, is to get the full context of what he was discussing, and that is, on “day 1” he’s going to reverse/revert the damages the Biden/Harris administration have done in the last 4 years.
*THIS* is another example why Trump’s tired claims of “fake news” has legs.
Ya’ll can’t help yourselves.
whembly (477db6) — 9/6/2024 @ 6:48 am