Patterico's Pontifications

11/8/2023

Election Results

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:56 am



Looks like the Democrats cleaned up.

Voters had a choice between Democrats or the party that largely supports a criminal and mostly chose the former.

Weird, huh?

19 Responses to “Election Results”

  1. In general, when choosing between a law that is too permissive and a law that is too prohibitive, a majority will choose a law that is too permissive.

    In Ohio, the issue was whether a law could be passed that stopped some medically necessary abortions after viability, They did not believe that the language anti-abortion people opposed about health, about doctors, was a trick, but it was and is,

    Sammy Finkelman (c5806b)

  2. It is hard to move the needle. In NYC Republicans gained only one seat, and the Common Sense” Democratic caucus gained only one, making for 6 Republican and 9 common sense Democrats for a total of 15 out of 51, less than 1/3.

    Sammy Finkelman (c5806b)

  3. Knowing that the guy on the Republican ballot is only there because he sucked up to Trump and his baggage does tend to dampen the old get-out-and-vote joie de vivre.

    nk (33ca2b)

  4. Republicans said that Roe should be repealed and the issue of abortion should be returned to the states. They shouldn’t act surprised that many of the states, including some red ones, are susceptible to implausible claims that a 15-week ban means that millions of women are going to be forced into having unwanted children. The Dobbs decision was never the end of untrammeled abortion in America; it simply gave the pro-life side the means to convince voters that ridiculously liberalized abortion laws reflect poorly upon us as a nation. That works continues.

    And yeah, I would love to see some exit polls about the Kentucky governor’s race and Trump, but Kentucky electing a moderate Democrat isn’t really any different than Massachusetts or Maryland electing a moderate Republican to the governor’s office. But the GOP does need to get its act together over the next six months, and I hope that means ditching Donald Trump once and for all.

    JVW (1ad43e)

  5. New Jersey Republicans also lost bigly.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  6. Yeah, I’m not optimistic of GOP chances in next election of Trump ends up the nominee.

    I think the economy has to tank even more for Trump to even have a chance. And that’s…not a great sentiment.

    ‘Tis why I’ve been yammering at you all about the primaries and getting behind a Not-Trump candidate!!

    whembly (5f7596)

  7. Patterico, it had almost nothing to do with Trump. If anything, it shows that Trump’s instinct to abandon the pro-life position was, um, wise.

    What it shows is that, in enacting the bans or heavy restrictions that they had postured on during the last 50 years, the GOP ran up against the actuality of the post-Roe world — women are not keen on abortion bans. And they vote.

    Three generations of women had abortion as a backstop for their relationships and sexual lives. They discovered that it was important to them, or to their daughters, and are making that clear to some very surprised legislators.

    Scott and DeSantis hardest hit.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  8. are susceptible to implausible claims that a 15-week ban means that millions of women are going to be forced into having unwanted children

    Florida first started with a 13-week limit, then moved to a 6-week limit with 10 weeks of prerequisites that made it an effective ban. Other states passed flat-out bans, some without exceptions, and others even try to criminalize travel out-of-state.

    There’s a lot there to make those “wild” claims quite plausible. So “F___ Off” is a reasonable reaction.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  9. Yeah, I’m not optimistic of GOP chances in next election of Trump ends up the nominee.

    Trump has big negatives, but abortion is not one of them. Versus Biden I’d be betting on Trump. One health scare and it’s over for Biden. Not sure that “6-week ban” DeSantis or “Ban Abortion” Scott has any kind of chance.

    Again, Nikki Haley takes it all, if she can get past the semi-final.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  10. Knowing that the guy on the Republican ballot is only there because he sucked up to Trump and his baggage does tend to dampen the old get-out-and-vote joie de vivre.

    For governors, sure. For state legislators? Not sure anyone actually knows how they feel about the Don.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  11. Don’t forget, not addressing the border, islamic terrorism and laxity toward street crime also may make WW reluctant to do away with a redress against rape. A successful Suffolk County campaign can win running away even if it only comes close in NY.

    urbanleftbehind (99261a)

  12. Kevin M

    It’s more likely that Trump is convicted of something than it is that Biden has a fall in public. 99.96% of folks who went to trial (in 2018) in Federal Court were convicted of at least one count. Only 26% of folks in Bden’s age group had a fall in public.

    Appalled (023bec)

  13. Conservatives you got a problem and I have been saying so since dobbs decision. Republican base says no to abortion while everyone else says right to choose. In ohio 44% said no and thats a majority of republicans who vote in PRIMARIES! Same in virginia so republican elites says compromise so we can keep having tax cuts for the rich. Base which is the voting majority in primaries no! Or we will primary you. Telling woman they have no right to choose is like telling them they had no right to vote or hold office which has also been done. Question for right to lifers how would you like us to decide if you have a right to life, right to vote or hold office. 2024 is coming soon and I bet I will here the B.S. about abortion not being a big issue in the election again because you have no answer.

    asset (a6a043)

  14. It’s more likely that Trump is convicted of something than it is that Biden has a fall in public.

    Agreed, but I may not see your point just the same.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  15. asset,

    Only about a third of voters favor elective abortion after the first trimester. That’s your Democrat primary voter, for sure.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  16. The first question tonight will be about abortion.

    Kevin M (ed969f)

  17. @ 15 republicans who say that will get primaried and I think your smart enough to know that. Say first trimester upsets both sides that your dilemma.

    asset (0b4d3e)

  18. It isn’t just women who vote no on abortion restrictions; so do followers of the late Hugh Hefner.

    For obvious reasons.

    Jim Miller (31dac6)

  19. While one Republican flipped a seat the number of Republicans on the New York City Council actually stayed the same, at 6. I guess they must have counted Ari Kagan who switched parties and ran in a new district.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)


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