Russian Jet Hits US Drone Over Black Sea
[guest post by Dana]
During routine operations over international waters, this happened:
A Russian fighter has collided with a US Reaper drone, forcing it down into the Black Sea, in what US forces called an an “unsafe and unprofessional” intercept.
A US European Command statement said the collision happened…when two Russian Su-27 fighter jets flew up to the MQ-9 Reaper drone over international waters west of Crimea. The statement said the Russian pilots sought to disrupt the US aircraft before the collision.
“Several times before the collision, the Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner,” the US statement said. “This incident demonstrates a lack of competence in addition to being unsafe and unprofessional.”
One of the Russian fighters then struck drone’s propeller “causing US forces to have to bring the MQ-9 down in international waters”.
While National Security Council’s John Kirby said that it’s not unusual for Russia to “intercept U.S. aircraft” in this location, he also said that today’s downing of the drone was “unsafe, unprofessional and reckless”.
I’ll update the post when we learn more.Dana (1225fc) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:07 am
Is this from an Onion article?
We’re only a few days away from an article suggesting the US nuke RU because of the Su-27s carbon footprint.frosty (f0f31f) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:30 am
Per Mark Hertling:Dana (1225fc) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:41 am
Not just “unprofessional, unsafe, and reckless,” but it seems intentional:Dana (1225fc) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:47 am
‘Each day the crises multiply. Each day their solution grows more difficult. Each day we draw nearer the hour of maximum danger, as weapons spread and hostile forces grow stronger. I feel I must inform the Congress that our analyses over the last 10 days make it clear that — in each of the principal areas of crisis — the tide of events has been running out and time has not been our friend.’ – President John F. Kennedy, January, 1961DCSCA (77f656) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:52 am
frosty and I are on a wavelength. Seriously, “environmentally unsound”? That’s the major offense?Paul Montagu (8f0dc7) — 3/14/2023 @ 12:16 pm
frosty and I are on a wavelength. Seriously, “environmentally unsound”?
That should have sent shivers down the nuclear Navy’s spine.
And what do they think happens when a howitzer fires?Kevin M (1ea396) — 3/14/2023 @ 12:24 pm
In news from 2040: The long-anticipated attack along the Malabar Front was delayed once more by an appellate court’s rejection of the latest Environmental Impact Report.Kevin M (1ea396) — 3/14/2023 @ 12:27 pm
Seriously, “environmentally unsound”? That’s the major offense?
yes, only cuz they’re not done assessing the disparate impact on crimean indigenous communitiesJF (5ff242) — 3/14/2023 @ 12:56 pm
Maybe aviation experts could weigh in on the likelihood the collision was intentional as opposed to pilot error. Aren’t all in-flight aircraft collisions ultra dangerous, so would not the Russian pilot have been risking his own plane crashing? Or perhaps not, if you’re a very skilled pilot going against a plodding drone? Maybe their clearly intentional attempts to damage or disrupt the drone are deemed tolerable behavior by the military, but if they intentionally downed a US drone in international airspace that would not seem not tolerable and a very not-smart move on their part.RL formerly in Glendale (7a2d64) — 3/14/2023 @ 1:21 pm
The russian national anthem should be played loudly every where ron desatan gives a speech. Another putin running dog.asset (97678d) — 3/14/2023 @ 1:36 pm
The environmental comment was ridiculous. This is down right idiotic. It makes less than zero sense to have manned aircraft escort a drone unless you are intentionally trying to create a false flag situation.
If this is the Mark Hertling making that comment I have concerns about what this says about our military leadership.frosty (f0f31f) — 3/14/2023 @ 2:35 pm
No, with an armed NATO escort it will be a real flag situation. A false flag situation would be for a NATO aircraft to down a NATO drone.Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:08 pm
The dumping of the fuel, since there’s no other case they can make against it..
It’s like the Deepwater Horizon BP oil spill, only much smaller. But it’s the principle of the thing!
frosty (f0f31f) — 3/14/2023 @ 11:30 am
Nuclear bombs exploding are bad for the environment.
And health of people far away.
Like in Moscow.Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:10 pm
Good thing it was just a drone. IF it had been one of these aircraft, Katie bar the door. They carry up to 27 crew and sensor operators. It would be the Hainan Island incident all over again, though there would be serious political pressure on Biden to retaliate with more than an apology.Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:17 pm
NATO is still confident that Putin does not want to engage with NATO soldiers.
There’s a reason this only involved an unmanned drone.Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:19 pm
Whether Putin wants or not to engage NATO is beside the point. It is some Russian fighter jock or his commander who wants to show off that is the problem.Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:24 pm
reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner,
It’s how an officer and a gentleman says “the kind of chickensh!t those Commie f*ckwits pull”.nk (88e8b5) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:42 pm
SourceRip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:43 pm
So, arm the drones. It will at least give them pause.Kevin M (1ea396) — 3/14/2023 @ 5:16 pm
During the Blitz, the RAF used to “tip” V-1 buzzbombs by flying next to them with a fighter plane and lifting the wing with their own wing. The primitive navigation of the V-1 could not correct for this, and was diverted by 30 degrees or so from it’s intended line of flight.Kevin M (1ea396) — 3/14/2023 @ 5:24 pm
Even during an invasion of Ukraine, Putin can’t keep his grubby imperialist mitts off Moldova.Paul Montagu (8f0dc7) — 3/14/2023 @ 5:34 pm
Every time I worry about Russia I watch this
https://twitter.com/i/status/1624215616247762944steveg (925487) — 3/14/2023 @ 5:44 pm
So, when China stabs Putin in the back and moves on the resources to their north, who will shed a tear for Russia?Kevin M (1ea396) — 3/14/2023 @ 8:13 pm
I meant it exactly the way I said it.
Take a step back and ask yourself why you’re being told about a midair collision with a drone? This isn’t a leaked story we accidentally found out about.
It’s almost like the Gulf of Tonkin incident has faded from memory.frosty (48bb1c) — 3/14/2023 @ 9:19 pm
nk (88e8b5) — 3/14/2023 @ 3:42 pm
This does seem like exactly the way a General Eisenhower, Patton, or Admiral Nimitz would have phrased it.frosty (48bb1c) — 3/14/2023 @ 9:23 pm
Given Biden’s extreme reticence to fully involve the US in the conflict (no F-16s, no immediate deployment of tanks or long range missiles) I don’t see him asking Congress for a resolution to attack Russia (which he wouldn’t receive) over the downing of an unmanned drone. Now if the Russians had shot down this aircraft, there would be intense pressure to retaliate.Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/15/2023 @ 10:47 am
Harrasing the drone was intentional. Colliding with it was not. It was recklessness and poor decision making on the part of the Russian pilot. It makes not sense to put yourself in danger and risk loosing an Su-27 in a collision.
Botched Russian Intercept of MQ-9 Drone Over International WatersPurplehaze (05dea1) — 3/20/2023 @ 9:37 pm