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12/12/2022

Marjorie Taylor Greene About Jan. 6 Insurrection: We Would Have Had More Guns, And We Would Have Won!

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:08 am



[guest post by Dana]

While speaking at a Republican gathering in New York on Saturday night, in which audience members included notable members of the far-right, MAGAland, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump Jr., and the founder of Vdare, Marjorie Taylor Greene made these comments:

Before scoffing at the idea that she played a role in the Jan. 6 attack, she made a crack about how unfamiliar she had been with the layout of the Capitol complex: “I couldn’t even find a bathroom.”

“Then Jan. 6 happens and next thing you know, I organized the whole thing along with Steve Bannon here,” Greene said with apparent sarcasm, to laughter from attendees. “And I will tell you something: If Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won.”

“Then Jan. 6 happens and next thing you know, I organized the whole thing along with Steve Bannon here…And I will tell you something: If Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won.”

Claiming that if she had been in charge of the planning of Jan. 6, “we would have won” and “it would’ve been armed” makes it sound like Greene was actually disappointed by how the day turned out. And while there were indeed guns in the hands of rioters that day, she and Bannon would have made sure there were even more guns because apparently, that’s what would have secured a “win”. But how? Tell us, Marge, what you would have wanted people to do with those guns and what would a “win” look like??

This is an astounding thing for a sitting member of Congress to say, even if she writes it off as sarcasm “making fun of Joe Biden and the Democrats, who have continuously made me a political target since January 6th.” But Greene isn’t any person on the street making these comments uh, jokes. She is a sitting member of Congress. And that *should* mean something.

As the White House put it:

… goes against our fundamental values as a country for a Member of Congress to wish that the carnage of January 6th had been even worse, and to boast that she would have succeeded in an armed insurrection against the United States government. This violent rhetoric is a slap in the face to the Capitol Police, the DC Metropolitan Police, the National Guard, and the families who lost loved ones as a result of the attack on the Capitol. All leaders have a responsibility to condemn these dangerous, abhorrent remarks and stand up for our Constitution and the rule of law.”

Greene and her never-ending cheap MAGAland antics remind me once again why Americans consistently (and rightfully) hold Congress in such low regard. That the audience laughed at her Jan. 6 “jokes,” as she knew they would, makes me happy, yet again, to no longer belong to the Republican Party.

Q: Do you think that Greene shot herself in the foot with these comments in light of angling for an in with Kevin McCarthy, whom she is supporting for Speaker and told the New York Times “I think that to be the best speaker of the House and to please the base, he’s going to give me a lot of power and a lot of leeway”?

–Dana

59 Responses to “Marjorie Taylor Greene About Jan. 6 Insurrection: We Would Have Had More Guns, And We Would Have Won!”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (1225fc)

  2. Great. She’s a white nationalist and would-be seditionist. Thank you, 14th District of GA.

    Paul Montagu (1888f5)

  3. This was obviously a way of denying that she (and Steve Bannon) had anything to do with the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021. There’s no point into distorting that into meaning something else.

    It’s also not true. They would not have “won.”

    Except a term in prison or worse.

    Hypothetically, many people would have been killed, but they would not have won anything, not even making Nancy Pelosi Acting President on January 20, 2021, which is what preventing the certification would have done, but it wouldn’t have happened even if the Congress had to assemble in Philadelphia…but then, she’s playing to the ignorance of the audience.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  4. ……..she’s playing to the ignorance of the audience.

    What a shock!

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  5. The new brand of Republican leadership is kind of dumb.

    Time123 (eb9243)

  6. Kevin M say I shouldn’t use the word rethugliKKKans to describe MTG who said her armed insurrection at the capital would have won and the young rethugliKKKan yelling for total war against their enemies. I said OK what word should I use. I am still waiting for an answer.

    asset (4275be)

  7. November 9-10 1923/January 6 2021 what is the difference ?

    asset (4275be)

  8. Asset, I’d say any label that doesn’t conflate republicans generally with the Klan would be better.

    Time123 (265b62)

  9. November 9. 1923 was actually a serious attempt at a coup.

    The coup leader spent about a year in prison after being pardoned (although originally sentenced to five years)

    https://www.nytimes.com/1924/12/20/archives/adolf-hitler-released-several-communists-also-set-free-in-bavaria.html

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1924/12/20/101628740.html?pageNumber=3

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  10. Ashli Babbitt remains unavailable for comment.

    DCSCA (096760)

  11. Ashli Babbitt was mde the “tip of the spear” by other rioters.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  12. Ashli Babbitt remains unavailable for comment.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    norcal (862cdb)

  13. @8 Nixon’s southern stratagy trading lincoln for strom thurmond ;but more importantly reagan’s speech in philadelphia mississippi where the 3 civil rights demonstrators were murdered after he got the republican party’s nomination. Why would he give his first speech there if not welcoming the racists and ku klux klan into the republican party?

    asset (4275be)

  14. Ashli Babbitt was mde the “tip of the spear” by other rioters.

    “Made”? She was practically frothing before she went through barrier.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  15. @13: You have yet to respond to the other 20 racist southern Senators I’ve repeatedly listed before, who remained in the Democrat Party at high levels quite some time after Nixon was gone, including Sam Ervin — a virulent racist who chaired the committee that destroyed Nixon.

    But focus, as you Leftists will, on Thurmond. It helps you feel good about your racist Klan-founding and supporting Party.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  16. I guess I’ll use DemoKKKraps.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  17. Dana, something bad happened to the third paragraph of your initial quote.

    Perhaps you meant:

    As cheers and clapping broke out in the audience, Greene added: “Not to mention, it would’ve been armed” — drawing a seemingly surprised reaction from the room.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  18. MTG just trying to get back into the good graces of the alt-right:

    ……..
    Republican Rep. Greene disavowed white nationalist livestreamer Nick Fuentes, who’s now getting cozy with disgraced rapper Ye (formerly known as Kanye), “and his racist, anti-semitic ideology” in a tweet last month. Ever since, Fuentes’ followers—known as “groypers”—have viciously turned on her.
    …….
    …….Greene’s condemnation of Fuentes came about 10 months too late. She was widely criticized for speaking at his America First Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida, earlier this year but brushed off the criticism, claiming simply that she didn’t know who he was. (Trump used the same excuse following the controversial dinner).

    While Fuentes and his army of groypers might have been OK with Greene claiming not to know him, they were not at all happy about her recent disavowal of him—and say it’s the latest evidence that she’s sold out her far-right fans and betrayed their white nationalist “America First” movement. Only weeks earlier, she rebuffed her far-right colleagues in Congress by calling on them to back Rep. Kevin McCarthy in his bid for re-election as House Speaker.
    ……..
    “She’s just weak. She goes and says something edgy to get attention, and then when the pressure comes, she buckles,” said Fuentes on a podcast after Greene’s disavowal of him. “You know, she’s gonna be a MAGA-mom and QAnon and all that, and then the second Kevin McCarthy reprimands her and she loses her committee, she goes and apologizes.”

    Fuentes also mocked Greene’s dreams of becoming the face of “Christian nationalism” in the U.S. “How are you going to be the face of Christian nationalism when you’re a divorced woman, girlboss,” said Fuentes. “I’m so glad I don’t have to pretend to support that anymore.”

    He’s also taken to calling Greene “Large Marge” and is encouraging his followers to heckle her at events.

    Far-right activist Laura Loomer also announced that she was done with Greene. “MTG is no longer an ally to America First,” Loomer declared on Telegram. “She may have claimed to be so that she could climb the political ladder, but she has shown she is all talk and zero action, unless of course the action is selling t-shirts and wine glasses.”

    “You are their slave Marjorie, a slave to the Democrats and the Media that you constantly talk about,” wrote Holocaust denier Vince James. “By that statement [disavowing Fuentes] it just got to show you’re living according to the rules of their game, that they’ve completely rigged against us.”

    “Here’s my take: grifters are gonna grift, and it’s just sad that we have to go through that kind of betrayal,” said far-right groyper Dalton Clodfelter about Greene on his podcast.
    ………

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  19. @16 be my guest. It took us a while for them to leave and some changed a little bit at the end ;but they are gone now except for cueller. How long will it take you to get the rethugliKKKans and white supremists neo-nazis out of republican party ???

    asset (4275be)

  20. As for Greene, she was re-elected in a landslide from her NW corner of Georgia, which has brought us congressmen like Larry McDonald, who was chairman of the John Birch Society when he died on KAL007.

    The area was first settled by whites once the former Cherokee inhabitants were forcibly removed by the US Army under Democrat President Andrew Jackson. These are their descendants.

    If you have beef with MTG, take it up with her constituents. They voted for her 2-1.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  21. But let’s take her at her word. Let’s say that they were armed, and after capturing or killing the police and Secret Service and such, they had hanged Mike Pence and were putting the other legislators on “trial.”

    How long would it have taken the Marines from the DC barracks to have killed the lot of them?

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  22. It took us a while for them to leave and some changed a little bit at the end

    We got them out by electing Republicans who were (mostly) nothing like them. And, in the end, in a representative democracy, you have people who reflect their voters.

    My L.A. community was gerrymandered into Maxine Waters’ district and I gotta tell you, a white person asking for constituent service would have been ignored or laughed at. She is as much a racist as ol’ Strom ever was.

    Clean up your own mess before pointing at ours.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  23. If you have beef with MTG, take it up with her constituents. They voted for her 2-1.

    So what? Winning by a large margin doesn’t immunize a politician from criticism.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  24. How long would it have taken the Marines from the DC barracks to have killed the lot of them?

    Kevin M (1ea396) — 12/12/2022 @ 1:45 pm

    Given that the Marines were never deployed on January 6th, probably a long time, if ever. And since the Insurrection Act was never invoked, the Posse Comitatus Act would bar such an intervention.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  25. No, Rip it doesn’t, but the criticism would be more effective if it was felt by her constituents. She’s a performance artist. The political equivalent of a shock-jock. Say what you want about her, but spell the name right.

    She may get herself expelled though if she keeps it up.

    BTW, if they had done this, and Trump equivocated for a moment on ordering the Marines in, the consequences for Trump would have been far different. If he had attempted to use it to stay in power, he would have been hanged for treason.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  26. And I daresay a number of the Marines would have supported the insurrectionists.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  27. If he had attempted to use it to stay in power, he would have been hanged for treason.

    Of course, that is untrue. It would a lot of things, but not treason.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  28. She may get herself expelled though if she keeps it up.

    LOL! She is a leader in the House Republican Caucus.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  29. Given that the Marines were never deployed on January 6th, probably a long time, if ever. And since the Insurrection Act was never invoked, the Posse Comitatus Act would bar such an intervention.

    We are talking about the Congress being held hostage and people being killed. The ONLY thing that would have prevented a heavily armed response would have been the traitor in the WH.

    Posse Comitatus (enacted by white supremacists to prevent a second Reconstruction) does not prevent the governor of a state (or in this case the Mayor of DC) from demanding federal troops to restore order. Further, it can be used by presidential directive even if the governor objects. See Little Rock Central High and the 101st Airborne.

    The catch in this is the President has to agree, but Trump would have been seen as culpable. Not sure how that plays out, but it would have been traumatic.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  30. LOL! She is a leader in the House Republican Caucus.

    She thinks she is. At the moment she doesn’t even have a committee assignment. She may be a leader in the HFC rump caucus, but that’s less than a quarter of GOP members, and only about 15% of the House.

    I cannot see McCarthy or most of the GOP tolerating this crap for much longer. She riles up the White Power wing of the GOP while making every other Republican answer the phone from their supporters back home.

    If you don’t think MTG poses a problem for the GOP, consider Dana is posting this in outrage and she’s not exactly a Socialist.

    IF a majority of the GOP Caucus wants her out, she’s out, 330-105

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  31. Most, if not all, of the political nonsense we’ve seen over the past 15 years or so is due to the internet and social media.

    It became all too easy for nutjobs to connect with other nutjobs, and they started reinforcing each other. Their voices became amplified. Pretty soon, they were so steeped in their own “community” that their behavior resembled cult members.

    It happens on both the left and the right.

    Previously, political nuttery wouldn’t get very far, because people were interacting with other people in real life, and a neighbor, relative, or friend would check the nutjob before a head of steam could get built up.

    norcal (862cdb)

  32. Of course, that is untrue. It would a lot of things, but not treason.

    You don’t think that siding with people who attacked Congress with guns and killed some of them (and numerous police and federal agents) is treason? “Waging war against the United States” is ipso facto treason.

    How do you assert this is NOT waging war?

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  33. Previously, political nuttery wouldn’t get very far, because people were interacting with other people in real life, and a neighbor, relative, or friend would check the nutjob before a head of steam could get built up.

    I guess you never met Rep John G Schmitz (R-CA) (later Wallacite presidential candidate), or any number of Southern politicians circa 1956.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  34. I guess you never met Rep John G Schmitz (R-CA) (later Wallacite presidential candidate), or any number of Southern politicians circa 1956.

    Kevin M (1ea396) — 12/12/2022 @ 2:15 pm

    Oh, it happened, but not like it does today.

    I remember John Schmitz. My mother (a John Bircher) campaigned HARD for him in 1972. Mary Kay Letourneau was his daughter. Hereditary nuttery, anyone?

    norcal (862cdb)

  35. I should add that John Schmitz ran for President in 1972. (My family never lived anywhere near his congressional district in Southern California.)

    norcal (862cdb)

  36. Yes, on Wallace’s party line (American Independent in CA)

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  37. A few years later I was taking a class at UC Irvine on radical politics in the US, and former Congressman Schmitz was a fellow, if not entirely welcome, student. He did have a lot of knowledge on the Right side of the subject.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  38. BTW, I was a member of CompuServe starting in 1979, and we had trolls there too.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  39. BTW, I was a member of CompuServe starting in 1979, and we had trolls there too.

    Kevin M (1ea396) — 12/12/2022 @ 2:40 pm

    Was DCSCA one of them? 😛

    norcal (862cdb)

  40. you don’t think that siding with people who attacked Congress with guns and killed some of them (and numerous police and federal agents) is treason? “Waging war against the United States” is ipso facto treason.

    How do you assert this is NOT waging war?

    Kevin M (1ea396) — 12/12/2022 @ 2:13 pm

    I don’t think it is treason as commonly understood (“waging war against the United States” or “giving aid or comfort to the enemy”)-certainly the DOJ hasn’t indicted any January 6th defendants for committing treason, only seditious conspiracy.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  41. Some conservatives voted for this.

    nk (bb1548)

  42. You don’t think that siding with people who attacked Congress with guns and killed some of them (and numerous police and federal agents) is treason? “Waging war against the United States” is ipso facto treason. How do you assert this is NOT waging war?

    Veteran Ashli Babbitt as the only American killed by the Royalists Guards.

    But as to “weaging war”— ask the hordes of illegals wading ashore from the Rio Grande invading Texas. Both these Royalist political parties and their ideological weenies are the ‘ipso facto treasonous’ ones… Recognize genuine treason from the powers that be:

    Biden says he won’t go to US border because of ‘more important things’

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/06/biden-says-he-wont-go-to-us-border-because-of-more-important-things/

    Both the Royalist parties kissed Saudi azz as they chopped up a reporter- cozy up to the PRC and Russia… and yet their minions flew planes into the Pentagon and WTC in 2001. Now the southern border is being breached hourly on live television. Recognize the entrenched evil Royalists ruling the swamp. Save the United States: storm the castle.

    DCSCA (166f36)

  43. @39. They sponsored Rush Limbaugh as he peddled that sucker bait.

    DCSCA (166f36)

  44. Gavin Newsom Visits Border After Biden Said He Had ‘More Important’ Issues

    Conservatives calling on President Joe Biden to assess the ongoing crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border for months have largely been left wanting, with the administration maintaining there are “more important” issues facing the country in a gaggle with reporters last week. But as Biden weighs whether he intends to run for re-election, a leading figure to replace him is planning his own visit to the border in what he specifically claims is an effort to raise awareness of the need for immigration reform.

    On Monday, California Governor Gavin Newsom’s office announced in a vaguely-worded release that the Democrat and potential presidential candidate had left the state on a single-day trip to the border in an effort “to discuss immigration reform and [his] commitment to supporting immigrant communities and the border region… “Does Newsom not realize California shares a border with Mexico?” John Cardillo, a pro-Trump pundit, wrote in response to the news. “He left the state because he’s running for president.” “– newsweek.com

    More likely VP when Kamala gets the Eagleton heave-ho should Hillary pass on the gig. So he’s testing the waters… still, just what the Rio Grande needs: greasy oil slick.

    DCSCA (166f36)

  45. 41,

    Lol.

    Dana (1225fc)

  46. DCSCA, please read the thread before you type. We were talking about the supposed MJT-run insurrection, where everyone was armed and they were shooting Congressmen traitors.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  47. @6: I remember when calling a far-Left Democrat a Commie was Just Not Done. Democrats were so concerned with being labeled Communists or Socialists that when a network election newscast showed Democrat-won states as Red and GOP-won states as Blue they had a complete meltdown.

    Also, “blue” is more people’s favorite color and if you don’t thing that matters, you’re wrong.

    So, next election the colors were switched and it became a Thing.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  48. This tweet was the reason that Trump was banned from Twitter:

    The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!

    Twitter’s employees demanded that Trump be banned over this because it used codewords like “patriots” and was thought to be secretly talking about the (fewer than 75 million) people who had stormed the Capitol. Twitter bosses refused for a while, then apparently “got their minds right” and saw the secret messages.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  49. She made a joke. But she’s hated. So carry on with the 2 minutes of hate. I’ll be on the open thread.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  50. The jokes a person thinks are funny, whether he tells them or hears them, are a gauge of both his character and his intellect. This was as much a test of MTG’s audience as it was of her.

    There’s no hate. Just recognition of the quality of those people.

    nk (bb1548)

  51. MTG never doctored a FISA warrant, peddled a bogus dossier, leveraged federal assets to concoct an “insurance policy”, or enabled an insurrection by proxy known as border chaos

    Clearly she has some catching up to do.

    And unlike Liz, she at least knows how to hold onto her seat.

    JF (6e232f)

  52. JF

    That was brutal, yet hilarious.

    EPWJ (650a62)

  53. She has refined “You gonna let him talk to you that way, Bubba?” to a fine art. To a measure undreamt of by any other pickup queen.

    nk (bb1548)

  54. @47 Just was not done? I don’t make personal attacks so I will just say From at least the early 1960’s democrats not just left ;but moderates have been called communist. The arizona republic lost a defamation lawsuit to the conservative democrat superintendent of public instruction for calling him a card carrying member of the communist party. You can look it up his name was w.w. dick. The burchers called Ike a commie and earl warren. Nixon called sen. douglas of ca. the “PINK” lady. All thru the 1960’s, 1070’s,1980’s 1990’s 2000’s Most democrats running were called communists from mcgovern on forward. Only with Obama did the right decide he was more muslim terrorist simp then communist. Gary kaultbaum on fox business and his radio show calls biden and clinton communists.

    asset (fe7713)

  55. Kevin M (1ea396) — 12/12/2022 @ 1:58 pm

    ….if Trump equivocated for a moment on ordering the Marines in,

    It’snot only the Marines who could have intervened, it’s numerous armed forces, like the National Guard from various states.

    What coould have slowed it down was that there would have been no military plan — they hadn’t trained for this. But they could use or adapt something for a different scenario, like foreign terrorists. The more of an emergency it would be, the more they would be ready to improvise.

    Sammy Finkelman (617022)

  56. Republican Governor Larry Hogan was ready to respond to the attack on our democracy:

    Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said Sunday it took nearly two hours for the Pentagon to give authorization for his state to send its National Guard into Washington to help protect the U.S. Capitol as it came under attack from a violent pro-Trump mob.

    Jim Miller (f29931)

  57. The people who call Jan 6 an insurrection are calling a handful of journalists temporarily suspended from Twitter for doxxing Elon Musk’s kid the ‘Thursday Night Massacre’

    Same people also called banning the NY Post Hunter Biden laptop story, FBI censoring individuals on social media and a cryptocurrency scam laundering money through Ukraine to the DNC ‘nothingburger’s.

    Obudman (6c7d77)

  58. Musk said it best:

    “Bring back Walter Cronkite.”

    DCSCA (ad5eaf)

  59. Musk is giving them the slightest taste of “turnabout is fair play” and they can’t handle it. Being told “shut up” is for the little people

    steveg (73cc84)


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