Nancy Pelosi Stepping Down From House Democratic Leadership
[guest post by Dana]
The first female speaker of the House made the announcement from the House floor this morning:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced she will not seek re-election as leader of the House Democratic Conference after nearly 20 years at the helm, after her party narrowly lost the majority in the chamber in the midterm elections.
“With great confidence in our caucus, I will not seek re-election to Democratic leadership in the next Congress,” said Pelosi. “For me the hour has come for a new generation to lead the Democratic caucus that I so deeply respect, and I’m grateful that so many are ready and willing to shoulder this awesome responsibility.”
“There is no greater special honor for me than to stand on this floor and to speak for the people of San Francisco. This I will continue to do as a member of the House speaking for the people of San Francisco, serving the great state of California and defending our Constitution,” she continued.
While Pelosi did not announce who would replace her, a possible successor might be Hakeem Jeffries, Steny Hoyer, or Adam Schiff. However, given that Pelosi appears to want a “new generation to lead,” that would certainly rule out Hoyer (age 83) and perhaps Schiff (age 62). Jeffries is 52 years old.
Nancy Pelosi, age 82, plans to stay in Congress.
I read that Pelosi had been reluctant to step down after the gruesome attack on her husband because she didn’t want “violence to win.” I can respect that. However, the attack coupled with the stress of her husband’s long recovery and the fact that she is 82 years old (yet far more articulate and in charge of her faculties than President Biden, who is 79), it seems a good time to let a new generation lead Democrats.Dana (1225fc) — 11/17/2022 @ 10:13 am
Copying my comment from the McConnell thread: Speaking of Congressional leaders, 82-year old Pelosi is not running for a leadership position, and I was expecting this whether her husband was assaulted or not. Time for some fresher-faced leaders there, and in the White House.Paul Montagu (b351b8) — 11/17/2022 @ 10:15 am
I think she really wanted to stay as a demonstration that she could/would not be scared off by an attack on her family. I also get the sense that she really loves holding the position. However, I suspect she was gently pressured by senior House members to make way for a younger leader. But it comes at a dicey time, given that Republicans control the House. There are battles ahead, and she is a pro at politics.Dana (1225fc) — 11/17/2022 @ 10:23 am
I have to think that she does not want to be Dianne Feinstein.Appalled (03f53c) — 11/17/2022 @ 10:26 am
Schiff has said he’s not interested; he’s angling to replace Feinstein.aphrael (4c4719) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:10 am
Time for some fresher-faced leaders there, and in the White House.
Call me old-fashioned, but I view policy more important than cosmetics. Younger people do not correlate with better policy.Kevin M (90f346) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:24 am
I can’t imagine that it’s much fun to lead the minority in a razor-thin environment with such polarization and a weak President heading the party. I suppose some could see opportunities to obstruct and position for 2024, but overall it can’t be that inspiring. The DEMs probably recognize too how shallow their Presidential bench is and that the party is looking older and older. Warren-Bernie-Biden-Bloomberg did not scream out dynamic, fresh, or non-crotchety. For whatever reason, Pelosi has always bothered me less than either Schumer or Reid.AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:31 am
For whatever reason, Pelosi has always bothered me less than either Schumer or Reid.
Pelosi is more a back-office kind of gal, getting things organized and done. She doesn’t have the need to be on camera like Schumer, or to a lesser extend Reid.Kevin M (90f346) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:33 am
Where does the Squad stand on this?
Also, where are all the “First! … ” MSM stories regarding Hakeem Jeffries?Kevin M (90f346) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:35 am
For whatever reason, Pelosi has always bothered me less than either Schumer or Reid.
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:31 am
She’s smarter than them, for one.norcal (a1f318) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:49 am
In honor of this celebrated occasion, recommended reading:
‘Flushed With Pride – The Story of Thomas Crapper’
https://thomas-crapper.com/product/flushed-with-pride-the-story-of-thomas-crapper/DCSCA (2849e4) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:52 am
Pelosi and Mitch are two sides of the same coin — skilled practitioners of the inside political game. They both accomplish a lot for their side. They also are gifts to those who construct political attack ads.
Still, in pursuit of gaining the advantage, they have made partisanship more and more toxic.Appalled (f23ed3) — 11/17/2022 @ 12:02 pm
Good riddance! AOC should take her place and the squad fill the other leadership role. Fly away on your broom nanzi.asset (38e4f4) — 11/17/2022 @ 12:18 pm
While I agree with this, the fact remains that she is 82 years old. If Republicans complain that Biden is too old for the job (and they do), then surely the same standard must be applied to Pelosi. While she believes it’s time for younger people to head the chamber, we know that Jeffries and his contemporaries will simply not have the gravitas, knowledge, and experience of Pelosi. Also, there is no love lost between Jeffries and The Squad, given that primarying Jeffries in 2020 was a priority of AOC and he told the NYT ““The extreme left is obsessed with talking trash about mainstream Democrats on Twitter, when the majority of the electorate constitute mainstream Democrats at the polls.” If he becomes the Speaker, like McCarthy he will have his work cut out for him. He simply won’t have the stature and history that Pelosi has, which I think has kept the hard left in check.Dana (1225fc) — 11/17/2022 @ 12:22 pm
I can’t prove this, but I am inclined to think Pelosi has more respect for George W. Bush than for Barack Obama. I recall reading a story about Obama calling her, while she was working out a legislative compromise with other Democratic leaders, and she putting him on mute.
(She may have agreed with Bush’s assessment when he turned the presidential office over to Obama: “this cat hasn’t got a clue”, or something like that. (Sadly, the next 8 years showed how right Bush was.)
Note, please, I said respect, not agreement.Jim Miller (85fd03) — 11/17/2022 @ 12:36 pm
This is actually close to what she promised in 2018 when she promised to serve no more than two more terms as Speaker.Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/17/2022 @ 1:06 pm
Having studied Edwin O’Connor’s “The Last Hurrah” and Mike Royko’s Boss, I think I have been able to predict what Pelosi will do, at least 80 percent of the time.
(Her father ran a poltical machine in Baltimore, and San Francisco has had more “machine-style” politics than msot American cities.)Jim Miller (85fd03) — 11/17/2022 @ 1:24 pm
It looks very much like it will indeed be Hakeem Jeffries:
https://www.newser.com/story/328118/top-democrats-step-down-leaving-path-for-jeffries.htmlSammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/17/2022 @ 4:30 pm
Might as well put this here.
The attacker moved to the U.S. about twenty years ago to pursue a relationship with a woman he met in Hawaii. He registered to vote in San Francisco County (possibly caught by a registration drive) as a member of the Green Party in 2002, and voted once (that year) but remained on the books through 2009. He last entered the United States from Mexico using his Canadian passport.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/us/pelosi-attack-depape-arraignment.htmlSammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/17/2022 @ 4:43 pm
Local news saw the bodycam, it was Pelosi who opened the door greeted the police. Apparently the “attacker” most likely was a guest that went off the rails.
Getting weirder every minuteEPWJ (650a62) — 11/17/2022 @ 5:09 pm
The quote of the day from the other jerk who is bailing out of ‘leadership’ after decades of leadership mess making:
“In case you haven’t heard. I’m 83.” – Steny Hoyer.DCSCA (5c413d) — 11/17/2022 @ 5:14 pm
Cooke reminds us that at the end of the day, Pelosi did a major flip-flop:Dana (1225fc) — 11/17/2022 @ 5:48 pm
Biden celebrates Pelosi as ‘the most consequential Speaker of the House of Representatives in our history’ after she announces leadership exit
President Joe Biden heralded Nancy Pelosi as “the most consequential” House speaker in US history after she announced her decision to not seek re-election to her Democratic leadership post but to stay on to represent her San Francisco district.
“When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of dignity.
History will note her as the most consequential Speaker of the House of Representatives in history – she is first, last, and always for the people. America owes her a debt of gratitude for her service, patriotism, and dignity.” – Joe Biden
=sigh= Think of your meeting w/Camilla and the Pope instead, Joey.
‘One of the most influential speakers in history was Democrat Sam Rayburn. Rayburn had the most cumulative time as speaker in history, holding office from 1940 to 1947, 1949 to 1953, and 1955 to 1961. He helped shape many bills, working quietly in the background with House committees.’ – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_RepresentativesDCSCA (22e0ad) — 11/17/2022 @ 11:04 pm
The oily ‘principles’ of swamp creature Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.:
Biden administration says Saudi prince has immunity in Khashoggi killing lawsuit
WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) – The Biden administration ruled on Thursday that Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has immunity from a lawsuit over the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, drawing immediate condemnation from the slain journalist’s former fiancee.
Khashoggi was killed and dismembered in October 2018 by Saudi agents in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, an operation which U.S. intelligence believed was ordered by Prince Mohammed, who has been the kingdom’s de facto ruler for several years. – https://www.reuters.com/legal/biden-admin-says-saudi-prince-has-immunity-khashoggi-killing-lawsuit-court-2022-11-18/
Biden Scoffs at Reporter’s ‘Silly Question’ About Khashoggi Killing
‘… During a Democratic party debate in November 2019, Biden said that he would “make them [the Saudis] in fact the pariah that they are” as he vowed to take an opposing stance against Saudi Arabia over allegations of human rights violations…’
Biden disputes Saudi account of Khashoggi murder discussion
July 17 (Reuters) – U.S. President Joe Biden on Saturday differed with Saudi Arabia in their account of discussions at a bilateral summit about the 2018 murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a major point of contention between the two countries.
U.S. intelligence agencies believe Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing in 2018 of Khashoggi, a Saudi insider-turned-critic who had been living in self-imposed exile in Virginia. The de facto Saudi ruler denies it.
…and Putin smiled.DCSCA (07a6ad) — 11/18/2022 @ 12:58 am
I’ve got a gay friend who tells me that, for some reason not immediately apparent to me, that gays “hated” Margaret Thatcher. His view on her death “Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead”.
I sort of have a similar feeling re La Pelosi. Yeah–she was a player alright. Bu she did and said some spectacularly done deaf (and even vile) things. So I won’t mourn her stepping down–and heading off into retirement. After all somebody has to eat that freezer full of high priced ice cream.Comanche Voter (a15ae2) — 11/19/2022 @ 11:24 am
No, Paul Pelosi pretended on the 911 call that he was a guest. DePape was mentally disabled, probably from drugs, and rather slow – his plan had been to attack Nancy, and now he didn’t know what to do.
The problem is how do we get three scenes, or were they all described correctly.:
1) Paul Pelosi, disregarding DePape’s commands, opens the dor to police
2) Both DePape and Pelosi are holding ahammmer (police later confirmed this hammer did not belong to the Pelosi’s) DePape on the bottom, Pelosi on the top
3) DePape alone is holding the hammer, and proceeds to strike Pelosi on the head a few times, breaking his skull, and knocking the 82-year old Pelosi unconscious for about 3 minutes, before the police can tackle him. (they don’t try anything else)
Somewhere in the mix is a police order to drop the hammer, to which DePape replies: “Nope.”
I don’t know if the order is given while they were both holding on to the hammer
This is at least not as near confused as the situation at the University of Idaho where we have no idea why the police said nobody else was in danger.Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/21/2022 @ 12:10 pm
19. 20. Last Thursday, I didn’t quote this from the NYT articleSammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/21/2022 @ 12:22 pm
Somebody stupid or out of touch enough to believe all that e believed, is stupid in other ways, too. So Paul Pelosi, after managing to make that 911 call talked him into letting him go down to the ground floor. (they have an elevator in that house)Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 11/21/2022 @ 12:24 pm