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11/2/2022

Team Biden Desperately Scrounges for Good News, Fails Miserably

Filed under: General — JVW @ 12:39 pm



[guest post by JVW]

Yesterday, in the never-ending search for hopeful economic news in the run-up to the midterm elections, the Biden White House hit upon what they thought was a winner:

Seems straightforward enough, right? “Hey! More money for seniors! How awesome!” Unfortunately, the brain trust surrounding our 46th President is apparently as ignorant of economics as their boss is, and multiple outlets started fact-checking the claims that it was “Biden’s leadership” which led to the increase in the Cost of Living Adjustment.

In other words, the COLA increase is coming because inflation is so bad. Ironically enough, the White House might have inadvertently been telling the truth about President Biden’s “leadership” leading to the ongoing increase in inflation leading to the increase in the COLA, but given that they have been spinning themselves into a frenzy trying to convince the American people that our untrammeled inflation has nothing to do with the disastrous policies the Administration has pursued over the past nineteen months, it’s impossible for them to reconcile their various prevarications into a believable narrative. Brand-new Twitter owner Elon Musk gave his company some credit for calling out Team Biden’s nonsense.

Unsurprisingly, the White House deleted the tweet earlier today. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre responded this afternoon by essentially saying, “whoopsie,” which would make a great epitaph for this incompetent crew, though she also did rehash the old “Republicans would cut Social Security” claim.

The Republicans have their ongoing problems, there’s no doubt about it, but the craven and feckless Democrats deserve to be routed on Tuesday.

– JVW

96 Responses to “Team Biden Desperately Scrounges for Good News, Fails Miserably”

  1. So much for ‘transitory.’ Not really much of a help given the year long drain due to rising inflation as is; and the Fed just raised interest rates again this morning.

    First class postage goes up again in January- simple, everything things in the Dollar Store are now $1.25 or higher– even a basic pasta meal, like a box of spaghetti, just .99 three months ago, is at $1.40 at Ralphs- and pasta sauce up nearly 40%. Just price a can of soup… it’s soaring. Shipping costs; the price of diesel for trucking remains high.

    And Joey’s gonna give a ‘Hail Mary’ speech from Union Station in Washington tonight at 7 PM EDT.

    World Series Game 4 coverage begins on FOX at 7 PM, EDT. Wrong play, wrong call, wrong sport.

    Does anybody look at a calendar at the WH? But if he can’t be an athlete, at least be an athletic supporter… eh Joey?! 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  2. Donor class tells corporate establishment democrats like biden appeal to moderate independent/republican women not the minority and left base or we cut funding. Donor class can make money if rethugliKKKans win as they wont raise taxes not if minorities and the left base raise their taxes. Donor class we have money to buy your election wins over the left base. What do you have ;but are money to keep the left at bay? Over at DU they are attacking anyone who is not pollyanna and saying democrats messaging is weak like gavin newsom. The party hacks are closing their eyes and pretending every thing will be all right and attack any that are worried. Its a fun read!

    asset (3146ae)

  3. Election Betting Odds translated into probabilities

    https://www.electionbettingodds.com

    Chance of…
    Senate Control 2022

    [Rep] 67.4% up 0.1% in last day

    [Dem] 32.6% down -0.1%

    House Control 2022

    [Rep] 87.7% down -0.4% in last day

    [Dem} 12.3% up 0.4%

    Senate Seats 2022 (estimate: 47-53. Hover over states)
    Current senate is 50-50

    Last updated: 4:04PM EDT on Nov 02, 2022
    Over $750k bet. State betting is from PredictIt
    Betfair to be added if liquid state market available

    This is considered better, and faster reacting, than polls . It incoprates polls, plus events going on and prevos election results and how things relate too each other.

    It is actually not so good at the extremes. At the extremes you get hopes or unfounded convictions. So something with a less than 1% chance will trade at 5% and something very close to 100% willl trade at 98%. The most off course trade was after the 2020 election when the chances that Donald Trump would be inaguated traded at 80% against instead of the more usual 95% against

    Exact terms are important. Number of Republican Senators traded at 5% for 52 but someone guessed correctly that some would be late to be sworn in – Gov Rick Scott of Florida served out his full term before entering the Senate and did not resign earlt.

    For more:

    https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/who-will-win-the-midterms-ask-bettors-not-pollsters

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/regulators-weigh-whether-to-allow-betting-on-midterms-11666782001

    There was also an article in Fast Company.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  4. the craven and feckless Democrats deserve to be routed on Tuesday

    Yes, with a few exceptions.

    The Republican candidate for Secretary of State in Nevada is a full-on election denier, and more so than a candidate just humoring the rubes.

    Blake Masters told Trump he wouldn’t go “soft” on voting fraud claims.

    Kari Lake might be starting a cult of her own.

    norcal (a1f318)

  5. https://www.predictit.org

    This site has been ordered to wind itself down by late February. I think the real reason is fear of creating an interest in election outcome that shouldn’t be there. Maximum bet (since 2014) on any single contract: $850. The CEFC also didn;t like peole betting on Covid stuff like this one

    https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6489/Will-WHO-declare-COVID-19-to-be-a-pandemic-before-Mar-6

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  6. If the crazies win it will make boring politics more interesting. AOC and the left leading the democrats and trump leading the rethugliKKKans stirring things up!

    asset (3146ae)

  7. Kari Lake might be starting a cult of her own.

    She might, but the fact that she is a former journalist who is relentlessly bashing her old line of work cracks me up. I also kind of want to see her win because (1) her cowardly opponent refused to debate her, which I find utterly contemptible and (2) Arizona Democrats meddled in the GOP primary by running ads against Lake’s opponent because they thought that Lake would be the easier candidate to defeat. They deserve to watch her coast to victory.

    JVW (15c733)

  8. “If the crazies win it will make boring politics more interesting.”

    Maybe get a dog or a hobby that makes your life more interesting….rather than have crazy or incompetent people do reckless actions that can destabilize the world. Or stream something…..

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  9. One can see why the Left was so desperate in their attempts to prevent the sale to Musk. Twitter fact-checking the Biden White House (or any Democrats).

    Aaron Rupar hardest hit.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. AJ, I recommend not making asset your new DCSCA.

    BuDuh (cd24dc)

  11. @9. Jeez, these guys are dumb. Musk just lit off a spectacularly successful launch for the USSF w/his Falcon Heavy and stuck the return booster landings spot on, embarrassing Biden’s NASA and its delayed, problem plagued, gas-leaking Artemis. And now the Twits are contemplating a Twitter investigation? They’re increasingly dependent on him for contracts lofting satellites, too. Musk can threaten the Biden Administration with pulling the plug on his freebee Starlink set up, make Ukraine electronically deaf, dumb and blind and end the conflict there in a week. Never fight folks who buy ink by the barrel- or are the wealthiest person on – and soon to be off- the planet.

    “Forget the myths the media’s created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.” – Deep Throat [Hal Holbrook] ‘All The President’s Men’ 1976

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  12. She might, but the fact that she is a former journalist who is relentlessly bashing her old line of work cracks me up.

    And she’s EZ on the eyes. The world- and the TeeVee- likes pretty people. Mastering the media in this day and age is the path to success. Ask Bob Newhart about Abe Lincoln’s chances. 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  13. Joe Biden: “Watch me.”

    America: We have.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. What is he talking about???

    Memo to Joe:

    Umpire says STFU: “PLAY BALL!”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  15. Smears and d-d-d-divisiveness from the Tired Old Man…

    Unexpectedly.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. Joe, tell us about how Beau died in Iraq again.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  17. What a sad, rambling and wholly incoherent speech.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  18. The Republicans have their ongoing problems, there’s no doubt about it,

    Dracula has bad table manners.

    but the craven and feckless Democrats deserve to be routed on Tuesday.

    Garland can provide the balm by indicting Trump on Thursday.

    nk (975258)

  19. They stumble in looking for wisdom and get Golden Corral’s Endless Fountain of Ham.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. Memo to Joe:

    Paul Pelosi has been muttering,’ Where’s Nancy?” for years, Joey.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  21. Team Biden Desperately Scrounges for Good News, Fails Miserably

    They outta try the DVD bargain bin at Walmart.

    Then Joe can tell us how he sniffed June Allyson’s hair and stole Jill away from an amorous Peter Lawford.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  22. Dark Forces Thirst for Power! — Biden

    President Joe Biden on Wednesday tied the attack on Paul Pelosi to former President Donald Trump and his refusal to accept defeat in the 2020 presidential election, and warned ‘dark forces with a thirst for power’ will threaten democracy in the midterms.

    Biden didn’t call out Trump by name but it was clear he was making next week’s election a referendum on Trump’s ‘Big Lie’ – his false claim he won two years ago but was thwarted by voter fraud.

    ‘American democracy is under attack because the defeated former president of the United States refused to accept the results of the 2020 election,’ Biden said in a speech at Washington D.C.’s Union Station.

    ‘And he’s made the big lie, an article of faith in the MAGA Republican Party,’ Biden said. ‘The great irony about the 2020 election is that it’s the most attacked election in our history. And, yet, there’s no election in our history that we can be more certain of its results. Every legal challenge that could have been brought was brought. Every recount that could have been undertaken was undertaken. Every recount confirmed the results.’

    Biden attempted to pivot the conversation back to the protection of American democracy at a time voters say they are most worried about the economy and the high cost of living due to inflation. Crime remains another top concern.

    One big lie begets another.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  23. Some people focus on yesterday’s Big Lie and don’t see the next several that came along.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  24. Musk just lit off a spectacularly successful launch for the USSF w/his Falcon Heavy and stuck the return booster landings spot on, embarrassing Biden’s NASA and its delayed, problem plagued, gas-leaking Artemis.

    Someone has stolen DCSCA’s account.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  25. Musk only goes where others have paved the way.

    nk (6c45b4)

  26. Musk only goes where others have paved the way.

    Yeah, Tesla, Paypal, SpaceX, Hyperloop. Just another copycat. Assuming you call “science fiction” paving the way.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  27. I do appreciate that he showed up to give the coup de grace to Trump’s Truth Social.

    nk (975258)

  28. Now that was funny. Mean but funny.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  29. Electric cars, more reliable than internal combustion, were around 120 years ago, lasted for about 40, and they still haven’t caught up to today’s 1934 Ford coupes.

    Where has Space X gone that Mercury and Gemini haven’t?

    I don’t know what Hyperloop is, but electronic funds transfer is as old as electronics, and anyway I thought Paypal was Peter Thiel’s brainchild.

    nk (975258)

  30. Remember what I said about my not believing any numbers concerning deaths until the insurance companies report their actuarial numbers?

    Hmmm…

    felipe (484255)

  31. I take that back. Electronic fund transfer is older than electronics, unless you consider the telegraph “electronics”.

    nk (975258)

  32. Where has Space X gone that Mercury and Gemini haven’t?

    Reusable boosters and Dragon spacecraft, for a start. Give him credit where it is due. Though I remain skeptical about his vision for Mars. Radiation issues remain an elephant in the room for any crews heading to the Red Planet.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  33. “I don’t know what Hyperloop is”

    Hyperloop is a theoretical high speed transportation system using evacuated (vacuum) tunnels. It’s purpose is to kill high speed rail projects (which I suppose is a plus for some in this forum). As an actual product it’s non-existent and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

    Davethulhu (129a95)

  34. @24. Hardly. Remain wary and critical of NASA management. Work arounds are temporary- not long term solutions. That rocket was not ready to fly. And may still not be ready to go in two weeks. Hydrogen leak issues have always been a PITA to deal with– even on the very morning of the first moon shot, when the ground support systems fueling the Saturn V had a leaky valve– and wrench wielding techies had to do a quick fix on the pad literally hours before Apollo 11 lifted off.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  35. Dark Forces Thirst for Power! — Biden

    … as Daddy Darth and Daughter Darth smiled.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  36. @33. I don’t know what Hyperloop is

    Ever seen those pneumatic tube systems where workers/secretaries etc., put memos and messages into canisters then open a panel and place them into the tube for a =zoom= trip through a building to another location?

    Quite a history to them; ‘research into trains running in partially evacuated tubes, such as the Vactrain and Hyperloop, is continuing.’- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube

    “Meet the future.” – Butch Cassidy [Paul Newman] ‘Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid’ 1969

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  37. At least this guy knew where his Nancy was.

    urbanleftbehind (153056)

  38. And I’m going to blame nk for two Vote Mehmet Oz texts I got today from rando PA area codes.

    urbanleftbehind (153056)

  39. Hyperloop is a theoretical high speed transportation system using evacuated (vacuum) tunnels. It’s purpose is to kill high speed rail projects (which I suppose is a plus for some in this forum). As an actual product it’s non-existent and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

    Thank you. That is actual science fiction, the literary genre, but I don’t remember the author. Larry Niven?

    nk (bb1548)

  40. Yeah, Tesla, Paypal, SpaceX, Hyperloop. Just another copycat. Assuming you call “science fiction” paving the way.

    Well, there’s nothing new about electric vehicles. As the 20th century dawned, battery powered electric delivery vehicles by far out numbered horse drawn wagons in NYC– for very obvious, and practical smelly reasons. Mounds of horse manure to dispose of. And, of course, there are three electric powered rovers left parked on the moon between 1971-72. The issue w/electric vehicles on Earth- and even on the moon- has remained the same over the decades: batteries. Cheaper fuel- gasoline, made the internal combustion engine more economical and practical to develop for transportation. Hence, Big Oil, the freeway and the Edsel. Paypal isn’t much different than wiring funds via Western Union- or telegraphy back in the day. Just a good fit for the internet age. SpaceX’s biggest advance is their reusability [boosters and Dragon capsules] and advances in a light weight engines and burn efficiencies. He deserves credit for that. Hyperloop is a ripoff from some Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers movie- or a 1930s city lights-type-comedy- but the pneumatic tube system does have a practical history behind it – even NASA used them at MSC in Apollo days [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube ] and worth Musk’s time and dime to look into.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  41. “That is actual science fiction, the literary genre, but I don’t remember the author. Larry Niven?”

    Probably not Niven, his thing was ubiquitous teleportation. The vactrain appearances in SciFi that come to mind all involve one crashing for one reason or another.

    Davethulhu (129a95)

  42. Astros win w combined no-hitter. Series tied 2-2. Let the mincing by the PA elections cathedral begin with a minimum 6 gamer.

    urbanleftbehind (153056)

  43. Woohoo! See-saw Series! Astros win game 4- a no-hitter — 2nd one in WS history! Great baseball.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  44. @42. 5- zip. Great baseball, wasn’t it. This is turning out to be a great WS.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  45. It’s purpose is to kill high speed rail projects (which I suppose is a plus for some in this forum).

    Aw, who could be against anything that cool?

    JVW (15c733)

  46. If you liked evan mecham you will love kari lake.

    asset (2d2862)

  47. latest polls suburban white women turning to rethugliKKKans. Abortion cannot cancel out inflation. The more moderate corporate establishment democrats who go down the quicker the left takes over the democrat party. Hopefully biden tries to run in 2024 it will tear the democrat party apart as even the party hacks don’t want him to run again. Over at DU they are saying all the polls are lying and alerting on those few left who think the polls are right. Talk about election deniers!

    asset (2d2862)

  48. @47. latest polls suburban white women turning to rethugliKKKans.

    They run the households and manage the household budgets.

    Bend over Joe! Surprise: ‘democracy’ is coming at you– w/an evil fossil fuel byproduct in hand: a
    jar of petroleum jelly.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  49. You had to chuckle at Joe’s democracy whine about the extreme GOP candidates running and may just win when so many of them were financed in their primaries by his own party in hopes of being easy pushovers. Really stupid strategy.

    Attaboy, Joey.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  50. Rich Lowry skewers Democrats who claim that this election is about democracy:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/no-democracy-is-not-on-the-ballot/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=third

    The nub:

    If the election is about protecting democracy over and above anything else, Democrats should be setting aside all their positions on hot-button issues that make Republicans reluctant to vote for them — on abortion, climate change, guns, and so on. Naturally, they are more dug in on these issues than ever. If they have to choose between protecting democracy and advancing their pet left-wing causes, the pet left-wing causes win every time.

    At the very least, if Democrats fear that MAGA candidates will try to change the 2024 election result in Congress after the fact, they should feel some urgency about passing the Electoral Count Reform Act, which attempts to tighten up the rules to prevent such gamesmanship. Democrats are bragging about passing all sorts of bills this year, yet not the one most relevant to what they say is the foremost issue of our times.

    norcal (a1f318)

  51. @49 right on! you got that right. This is why the donor class and corporate establishment democrats are so loathsome. They pull this crap to stay in power in the democrat party and keep AOC and the left from taking the democrat party over. This goes for norcal’s comments also.

    asset (2d2862)

  52. how much should kevin mccarthy cut your social security and raise your medicare premium to give another tax cut to the rich to fight inflation. Do you agree the government debt ceiling shouldn’t raised until mccarthy gets another tax cut for the rich? Sen.ron johnson (r-nazi) wants to end(sunset) social security and medicare to try and end corporate taxes.

    asset (2d2862)

  53. BuDuh: “AJ, I recommend not making asset your new DCSCA.”

    Not the plan, but his contention that crazy candidates make for entertainment is a big part of why we had 4 years of Trump chaos and why he still leads the GOP. People have been conditioned to expect drama rather than sober leaders. I don’t want his view to go unchallenged.

    AJ_Liberty (15d88c)

  54. People have been conditioned to expect drama rather than sober leaders. I don’t want his view to go unchallenged.

    That is going to be a tough row to hoe. Thanks to an assist from Davethulu several threads ago we learned that the percentage of Trump 2020 voters that were involved in the Jan 6 riot was about .0028% And that is only using the voters as the denominator. Who knows what the actual total number of Trump supporters was? Election turnout was something like 2/3 of registered voters. That said it is very clear that an insignificant amount of people caused any sort of chaos at all.

    Because of that insignificant amount of people, all Trump supporters are smeared whether or not they denounce the riot. Why? Because they dare to not fully accept every single last action during the election and subsequent days that followed. Absolutely no room to question anything that happened big or small. Not allowed.

    All this cumulates in having to accept that conservatism now comes in the form of supporting deficit wreckers. Can you imagine making the claim that Liz Cheney is putting country first by praising Nancy Pelosi’s leadership?

    That is pure drama over over sobriety

    BuDuh (eaef9b)

  55. This all starts at the top. Biden is in too much mental decline to prioritize a message, let alone articulate one, and he also doesn’t have the willpower to beat down his progressive wing.

    Bill Clinton (or more accurately, James Carville) understood this 30 years ago. It’s the economy, stupid, and Biden and the Democrats have been avoiding talking about the economy for months on end, and it’s partly why we’ll likely see a wholly unqualified person like Herschel Walker get sworn in. It shouldn’t be hard to run on a platform to cut down inflation, cut down crime, and cut down illegal immigration, but Democrats are hardly talking about any of that, and it’s why they’ll deservedly lose.

    As they say (or at least it’s what they said four years ago, and don’t ask me who “they” are), a midterm election is a vote on how the incumbent president is doing, and it’ll show that Biden is sucking at his job.

    Paul Montagu (753b42)

  56. Is your advice to Democrats is that they should lie about their priorities during election cycles to keep people like Walker, who ostensibly is more conservative, out of government?

    BuDuh (eaef9b)

  57. I’m not inclined to advise Democrats, BuDuh, just assessing what is.

    Paul Montagu (753b42)

  58. I see.

    BuDuh (eaef9b)

  59. 57, 58… thanks for starting Thursday off with a chuckle!

    This stuff almost writes itself.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  60. Get ready for it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RigIpVXm2xA

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. nevertrump mincing
    from chicago to herndon
    it’s moe larry cheese

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  62. Remember what I said about my not believing any numbers concerning deaths until the insurance companies report their actuarial numbers?

    Hmmm…
    felipe (484255) — 11/2/2022 @ 6:52 pm

    The UK has had numbers on this for a bit. The odd thing is the Biden admin isn’t really trying to claim this as a covid success. I think it would be fairly easy for them to claim credit for a reduction in the percentage of covid deaths in the excess death numbers.

    frosty (96fe4f)

  63. I would take excess mortality reporting–actually, any reporting–from the Epoch Times with a grain of salt. It was just a few months ago that they gave noted anti-vax crank Joseph Mercola a platform to mislead readers on Covid deaths.

    Paul Montagu (753b42)

  64. the Angry Old Man
    sclerotic brain makes space prep
    for the Battle Bots

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  65. No! on COVID amnesty…

    Remember what some said and, more importantly, what they did. Hold them accountable.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  66. #55

    The problem, Mr. Montagu, is that the Democrats don’t really believe in the sort of policies that would bring down crime, and don’t believe their spending spree has anything to do with inflation. They say nothing because there is nothing they can say.

    Which is a problem, to say the least.

    If only Republicans did not spend their time with 2020 delusions and started believing in elections again. Life would be easier.

    Appalled (77ad8a)

  67. Thank you. That is actual science fiction, the literary genre, but I don’t remember the author. Larry Niven?

    It’s actually many writers by now, but not Niven. Heinlein had it a prominent technology in Friday, but evacuated transport tubes had been around a while before then. Robert Goddard suggested a system in 1904 as an undergraduate. Several prototype systems have been built in the last decade.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  68. It’s purpose is to kill high speed rail projects (which I suppose is a plus for some in this forum).

    They needn’t bother. The CA High Speed Rail project is doing the killing nicely. $100 billion for a train from nowhere to nowhere. It will be a monument to waste. I suggest the following epigraph:

    “I met a traveller from an antique land,
    Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
    And on the pedestal, these words appear:
    My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
    Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  69. BuDuh: “Who knows what the actual total number of Trump supporters was? Election turnout was something like 2/3 of registered voters. That said it is very clear that an insignificant amount of people caused any sort of chaos at all.”

    I’m not sure what this has to do with what I wrote. Asset wanted someone crazy to win because they wouldn’t be a boring politician. I thought potential for drama was not a good metric for a leader. In my opinion, Trump was about manufacturing drama….in part because he doesn’t have a lot of well-developed thoughts on policy questions and because he foremost understands well how to create a grifting machine. I don’t view Trump as a fit candidate; I get that many disagree for many different reasons. I especially disagree with ones who view his incompetence and drama as good qualifications.

    Now in terms of your analogy, it probably proves too much. The more important number is that 70% of the GOP accept some basic premise that the 2020 election was stolen….absent proof. How many in the future will be willing to tussle for their candidate who narrowly loses? As Walker proves, we don’t want candidates with creative ideas, relevant experience, and impeccable judgment…we want celebrities. He can be told how to vote, right? There are always these types of candidates…though we seem to have a bit of an uptick. How is it that a great state like Georgia can’t find and nominate someone with a bit more heft?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  70. Appalled (77ad8a) — 11/3/2022 @ 7:32 am

    Can’t argue. Plus, they’re completely pathetic on illegal immigration.

    Paul Montagu (753b42)

  71. The more important number is that 70% of the GOP accept some basic premise that the 2020 election was stolen

    Where do I find this statistic?

    BuDuh (eaef9b)

  72. Good read on the Pelosi thing:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/who-failed-paul-pelosi/

    I remain fascinated that, with all the failures that preceded Pelosi’s attack, the very online right latched onto a gay hookup gone wrong. Why latch onto and amplify the most improbable and obnoxious take on this whole thing?

    Appalled (77ad8a)

  73. Why latch onto and amplify the most improbable and obnoxious take on this whole thing?

    Did you ever wonder that when Trump was feeding fish with Prime Minister Abe?

    BuDuh (eaef9b)

  74. Why latch onto and amplify the most improbable and obnoxious take on this whole thing?
    Appalled (77ad8a) — 11/3/2022 @ 8:23 am

    the most widespread improbable and obnoxious take is that right wing rhetoric drove him to this behavior, when we know if he was reading left wing blogs that would be deemed irrelevant cuz “both sides”

    JF (495a2b)

  75. the percentage of Trump 2020 voters that were involved in the Jan 6 riot was about .0028%

    Thank you! And an even less significant percentage of the entire population. The fleck of rust on the tip of the horseshoe.

    But, but, but (three buts) that makes everyone else a leftist (because, you know, everybody else is to the left of them) and the tribe that is practicing tribalism and enabling RINOism, anti-conservatism, transgenderism, abortionism, and Bidenism.

    And we have at least two here. I was talking to them on the open thread.

    nk (bb1548)

  76. If only Republicans did not spend their time with 2020 delusions and started believing in elections again. Life would be easier.

    Most have. Problem is that the press and the Democrats (birm) play up the deniers. Here in my state, only one statewide contest has a denier in it. The GOP candidate for governor is forthright about Trump losing, to the point where the state’s main paper has endorsed him over the feckless Democrat incumbent. And now Trump has endorsed, too, despite not getting his, um, ring kissed.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  77. nk, I hate to try to predict the future, but there will never be such a thing as Bidenism.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  78. Appalled (77ad8a) — 11/3/2022 @ 8:23 am

    Why latch onto and amplify the most improbable and obnoxious take on this whole thing?

    Because that is a cause that can’t be attributed to any political attacks on Nancy Pelosi as being the personification (personification is Saul ALinsky tactics, by the way) of evil or corrupt policy.

    As for improbable, what better way to segregate political opinion by party and convince followers that they have a lock on the “truth” (DePape wanted Nancy Pelosi to confess, under torture)

    We don’t have, if any, if he even said, what was the issue Depape was most concerned with that he wanted Nancy Pelosi to talk about.

    Something to do with Covid or pedophilia – or something else altogether?

    Sammy Finkelman (ca3be5)

  79. anti-conservatism, transgenderism, abortionism, and Bidenism.

    Well, when you vote for candidates who support that, that’s what you’ll get.

    mikeybates (dd20f5)

  80. latest yahoo poll spells doom for moderate biden corporate democrats in swing districts. Economy and crime is what voters are focusing on. Many trumpster crazies will get elected now. These are populists not corporate conservatives and also election deniers. They will remind voters in 2024 why they hate rethugliKKKans and will have no answers except investigating democrats! Nancy has already asked biden about becoming ambassador to italy. Have fun everyone! Don’t look up!

    asset (dd81db)

  81. More on exactly what happened

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/capitol-police-seek-more-security-for-lawmakers-after-paul-pelosi-attack-11667329597

    After Mr. Pelosi called 911 from the bathroom, two San Francisco police officers arrived. When one officer rang the doorbell, Mr. DePape ordered Mr. Pelosi not to open the door, the motion said. But the older man opened the door with his left hand, and when one officer asked what was going on, the suspect smiled and said, “Everything’s good,” according to the prosecutors’ motion.

    Officers saw the suspect holding the bottom handle of a hammer with one hand, while Mr. Pelosi’s hand was on the top, the motion said. One officer ordered, “Drop the hammer!” Mr. DePape raised the hammer and said, “Um, nope.”

    The two men struggled over the hammer and after the suspect gained control of it, he allegedly struck Mr. Pelosi in the head at full force, knocking him unconscious. The officers rushed into the house, tackled the suspect, and disarmed him, according to the motion. Mr. Pelosi remained unresponsive for about three minutes, waking up in a pool of blood.

    Here it doesn’t sound as if Paul Pelosi let goof te hammer because of the drop it command.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  82. Or did he?

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  83. @77. nk, I hate to try to predict the future, but there will never be such a thing as Bidenism.

    It was already a major motion picture. K… Jim Carrey starred:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1no75lpOiw&t=3s

    DCSCA (eba2cb)

  84. @72. ‘Where’s Nancy?’ is etched into the headboards of every bed in their homes, Appalled. 😉

    DCSCA (eba2cb)

  85. @80. The fun begins when he tries to spin it and explain it away- especialy his own party financiong and nomionating so many deadheads they thought would bew puishovcers and instead win.

    Will democracy die like Beau in Iraq? Will he cop to being Corn-popped? Will he blame Putin- or the lyin’ dog-faced pony soldiers racing ’58 Corvettes against 18 wheelers carrying 30,000 pounds of bananas into Scranton, Pennsylvania?

    Or will he just blame Trump and shake hands with the Invisible Man.

    DCSCA (eba2cb)

  86. 4 years of Trump chaos

    Peace and prosperity! “More! More! I’m still not satisfied!!” – Tom Lehrer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jARdWfJulo

    DCSCA (eba2cb)

  87. Asset,

    You forgot to mention all the radical leftists like Mandela Barnes that are going to get rejected too. Why is that?

    NJRob (eff1f9)

  88. @87 Mandela barnes will help take over the democrat party in wisconsin even if he doesn’t win. Take over the party first then try to elect candidates in swing states. Even I don’t want to defund the police, It is popular in heavily policed black areas and some lefty whites.

    asset (21c99f)

  89. @88 Could be false flag or more likely someone who thinks he agrees with kevin mccarthy that social security and medicare be cut so more money for tax cuts for the rich. However kevin mccarthy has taken so much heat from fellow rethugliKKKans running for congress because voters even rethugs don’t want their social security and medicare cut to pay for tax cuts for the rich. Kevin mccarth says tonight that rethugliKKKan party will not touch social security and medicare if they gain power and find another way tp pay for tax cuts for his rich donors.

    asset (21c99f)

  90. crickets

    First I heard about this. It’s easy to conclude that the shooter is a hardcore left-winger, just like it was easy to conclude that the Pelosi attacker is an internet-radicalized right-wing nutjob.
    What we’re not hearing are accusations that the shooter is Harrigan’s jilted gay prostitute.

    Paul Montagu (753b42)

  91. It’s easy to conclude that the shooter is a hardcore left-winger,

    Hickory, North Carolina? It’s easier to conclude that 90-year old Ernest T. Bass is still pining after Ramona Ankrum. And even easier that some s**t-for-brains with his new rifle did not read the warning on the box of ammunition that the bullet can travel a mile.

    nk (f4e10f)

  92. crickets

    First I heard about this.
    Paul Montagu (753b42) — 11/4/2022 @ 5:09 am

    i rest my case

    JF (9388b8)

  93. It’s easy to conclude that the shooter is a hardcore left-winger, just like it was easy to conclude that the Pelosi attacker is an internet-radicalized right-wing nutjob.

    The right wing has hit upon their favorite scapegoat — he was an illegal alien, which he seems to have been, despite having married in the United States and having been registered to vote in California (Green Party).

    He last entered the United States from Mexico in March, 2008. This was probably a return cross border trip – he used his Canadian passport. He was probably in the United States far longer but the federal government does not keep records of people who leave the country by land at least, in spite of Congressional orders to do so, because to do so would disrupt tooo many things since people who overstay visas are barred from the United States for some years and a lot of people do not want to do that..

    David DePape was so unconscious of his immigration status that was almost a right wing Republican.

    Another right wing idea is that he should have confined to a mental institution.

    Or — there’s his criminal record.

    What we’re not hearing are accusations that the shooter is Harrigan’s jilted gay prostitute.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  94. What we’re not hearing are accusations that the shooter is Harrigan’s jilted gay prostitute.

    What is this about?

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  95. nk:

    I hate to be a stickler for accuracy, but there are plenty of democrats in Catawba County NC. 30% of the foks there did vote for Biden.

    https://catawbacountync.gov/site/assets/files/3177/2020-11-3_catawba_combined-reports.pdf

    Appalled (03f53c)


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