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7/21/2022

Biden Tests Positive for COVID

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



Fortunately the new strain seems less deadly than the ones that were around when the last guy got it.

I have nothing to say except here’s hoping for a speedy recovery.

70 Responses to “Biden Tests Positive for COVID”

  1. I wish him recovery and express concerns as he’s in that morbid risk group.

    whembly (b770f8)

  2. I lost track on his number of vaccinations and boosters was it 2 jabs – 2 boosters or 4 jabs -0 boosters or was it 3 jabs -1 booster?

    mg (8cbc69)

  3. Morbidly obtuse.

    Colonel Haiku (57fca7)

  4. Given that’s he’s been vaccinated at least 4 times, and has access to the best medical care, I expect a full recovery. His age is concerning though. Paxlovid works well, and although it was designed for the unvaccinated, BA.5 pretty much hits regardless of vaccination. It has a LONG list of drug interactions though, and a rebound possibility, so they may opt for Remdesivir infusions.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  5. The real problem with vaccinations these days is the vaccine-update approval cycle is an order of magnitude longer than the virus-update cycle. Serious work into a better approval process needs to happen.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  6. The beginning of The End…

    Colonel Haiku (57fca7)

  7. COVID does sound better than cancer, though…

    Colonel Haiku (57fca7)

  8. Even given his age and other infirmities, I’m not all that worried that the President is in any danger from his COVID diagnosis. Like his predecessor, he will have access to the most comprehensive medical care and treatment available.

    But this episode, eighteen months into his Presidency, can’t help but remind us of the ridiculous promises he made as a Presidential candidate. There’s irony in the guy who promised to shut down COVID being himself shut down by COVID.

    JVW (020d31)

  9. The real problem with vaccinations these days is the vaccine-update approval cycle is an order of magnitude longer than the virus-update cycle.

    Yeah. I’ve been advised to hold off on my second booster until next month or September, when Moderna is supposed to have a new vaccine which will address the COVID strands from this past spring as well as include a flu shot too. Of course by then we’ll be on to newer and more exotic strands.

    JVW (020d31)

  10. What this should tell us is that the BA.5 version of this thing is highly contagious and that vaccines designed for a distant ancestor of the virus are of limited use. The reason that people are getting milder symptoms is mostly due to the virus not causing as serious a disease than any real protection any of the vaccines designed for Mark One Covid are providing.

    I had this thing in June, and for me the onset symptoms could not be described as “mild”, although a couple days later they were. But that first day is enough to want to avoid a reinfection, which is also occurring with BA.5.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  11. I wish him well. A speedy and complete recovery.

    nk (fca119)

  12. I came up positive on an antigen test a few days ago, and was put on Paxlovid due to my own age and other comorbidities. I had utterly no symptoms, I am guessing because of my vaccinations and boosts.

    Simon Jester (8089ba)

  13. He was vaccinated twice– televised; boosted as well…

    “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” – Squinty McStumblebum July 21, 2021

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/22/joe-biden/biden-exaggerates-efficacy-covid-19-vaccines/

    Please Joe, predict it will never, ever rain in Southern California again.

    DCSCA (0fc588)

  14. Doctor Jha at presser says they’re unsure what kind of ‘variant’ has yet from the initial testing. They’ll figure it out. PS Jean-Pierre says it doesn’t matter where he caught it.

    Seems it does matter per the variant strain and locale, given the “close contact” list that has to be compiled.

    But hey:

    [ ] It’s transitory…

    [ ] It’s Saudi Arabia’s fault…

    [ ] It’s “Deadly” Delaware’s fault…

    [ ] It’s Big Oil’s fault…

    [ ] It’s Big Meat’s fault…

    [ ] It’s Big Egg’s fault…

    [ ] It’s Joe Manchin’s fault…

    [ ] It’s San Andreas fault…

    … and, always:

    [ ] It’s Putin’s fault

    DCSCA (0fc588)

  15. W/only a 31% approval 18 months in, this is going after ‘the sympathy vote’ the hard way:

    One and a half years since President Joe Biden took office, Americans give President Biden a negative 31 – 60 percent job approval rating, the lowest score of his presidency, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll of adults released today [7/20/22]… Republicans (94 – 2 percent) and independents (67 – 23 percent) disapprove, while Democrats approve (71 – 18 percent).

    Registered voters give President Biden a negative 33 – 59 percent job approval rating, his lowest approval rating among registered voters in a Quinnipiac University national poll..

    https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3852

    DCSCA (0fc588)

  16. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/21/2022 @ 9:47 am

    I suspect we’re also past the point where this is novel virus. It’s likely that at this point everyone’s immune system has had some exposure to it. The reason the virus was so bad initially wasn’t so much that it was a super bug as that it was strong enough to overpower an immune system that was seeing it for the first time.

    frosty (19a92e)

  17. @8. There’s irony in the guy who promised to shut down COVID being himself shut down by COVID.

    JVW, you can’t go wrong noting how, over half a century, Joe’s never been right. 😉

    DCSCA (0fc588)

  18. amazing what can happen when you leave the bunker

    considering his replacement, i desperately hope he gets through this

    JF (7f93f3)

  19. frosty,

    Except for the fact that people are getting reinfected a month after they were last infected, with the same variant means that “immunity” of any sort isn’t much with this thing. IT’S FAST.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  20. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/21/2022 @ 12:31 pm

    Catching it, getting reinfected by it, and getting sick from it are different issues. The fear of a fast or highly contagious virus is a function of how sick it makes people.

    Immunity means something if people who get the variants are able to fight it off.

    frosty (19a92e)

  21. I had utterly no symptoms, I am guessing because of my vaccinations and boosts.

    It is possible.

    What I find interesting is how many people in congress, prior to the vaccines, were asymptomatic with a positive Covid test.

    They kept a record of it:

    https://www.govtrack.us/covid-19

    After the vaccination spree they started attributing the same asymptomatic phenomenon to the shots they took as opposed to the natural defenses that spared them pre vaccine.

    Interesting data points if nothing else.

    BuDuh (340919)

  22. So Trump’s Operation Warp Speed saves Biden’s life?!?!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed#History

    Thank him, Joe.

    Film at 11. 😉

    DCSCA (39f7d9)

  23. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/21/2022 @ 9:16 am

    Given that’s he’s been vaccinated at least 4 times, and has access to the best medical care, I expect a full recovery.

    There are two methods of treating it.

    One is the artificial neutralizing monoclonal antibodies, a pre-emergency approval version of which was given to President Trump. (He promised to make it available to everyone and then didn’t really follow through, although it did get emergency authorization within a month or two but after the election)

    That particular version of Regeneron no longer works, because, n order to have the least chance of finding side effects, they used only two antibodies.

    But there are now other versions of this sort of treatment that are more robust and will likely still work with any plausible mutated viruses.

    The effect probably lasts for several months but confers no lasting immunity. Vaccinations might be less good during the interim.

    The other treatment is anti-virals, for which the FDA prescribes a very standardized treatment.

    It involves taking 3 pills two times a day for five days and is called Paxlovid. Two pills are the antivirals (two different ones actually apparently) and one is to slow down the elimination of the antivirals from the body.

    The medical field is familiar with that pharmaceutical as it is also used in HIV treatment. It means that someone should either stop taking some other pills for a few days or take a lower dose. A doctor who doesn’t know what the interaction would be should consult another doctor. Statins are an example of something that stays in the body longer as a result.

    Joe Biden is in fact getting that treatment

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is almost two years older than President Biden also got this treatment, and, after the course of treatment was completed, the virus came back to positive test levels, and he had to take it again.

    This happens so frequently it has a name: Paxlovid rebound. Because, of course, no one is allowed to use any reasoning and say that for some persons (maybe depending on viral load and age) it would be better to continue the treatment for 8 to 10 days.

    No, doctors cant use clinical judgment. And this goes on in spite of the fact that the FDA has no authority over the practice of medicine and cannot forbid off label use. For various reasons that I am not 100% clear about why the FDA’s regimen is honored

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  24. BuDuh (340919) — 7/21/2022 @ 12:55 pm

    A skeptical person might wonder if these sorts of observations are part of the reason some people were pushing the vaccine so hard.

    frosty (19a92e)

  25. His age is concerning though. Paxlovid works well,

    It does, although the monoclonal antibodies might work better and not need to be repeated, provided that the virus hasn’t recently mutated around it. (The antivirals work equally well in just about any version of the virus – the only thing is, the FDA wants it given only within five days after initial symptoms. After that I suppose you are doomed to struggle without excellent help.)

    and although it was designed for the unvaccinated, BA.5 pretty much hits regardless of vaccination.

    It was tested on the assumption that vaccines work. The vaccine now only has alimited effect against the current versions of the virus.

    The Vaccinations and boosters don’t work very well any more because the vaccines that are out there are vaccines against what China said was the original version of the virus (it was really the second one, from the second lab leak, which occurred after the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention was moved on December 2, 2019 to within 300 yards of the seafood market, which wasn’t a “wet market” although there were some stalls with animals that breathed air, which they [proved by publishing a scientific article delayed from 2017 with pictures]

    But none of these animals actually at the Wuhan Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in 2017 were plausible candidates for an intermediate host.)

    People don’t understand that there were likely two lab leaks of different versions of the virus, and one is not a direct ancestor of the other..

    The first lab leak probably occurred in late August – definitely before September 12, 2019) and was milder strain which was more contained. I think the Chinese government lied about which came first. That’s why they don’t want anyone to see any early samples.

    It has a LONG list of drug interactions though, and a rebound possibility, so they may opt for Remdesivir infusions

    Remdesivir is almost useless.

    The interactions are completely understood (because doctors are familiar with this in dealing with giving one component of Paxlovid to HIV patients – the third pill is merely a well known drug given to HIV patients) but not all doctors may know them. And they may not always take the right approach. Sometimes discontinuing the other drug is better. and sometimes reducing the dose or frequency.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  26. Anyway…

    The pharmaceutical companies developed a vaccine against a later version of the virus, but the FDA delayed so long in approval so that virus became virtually extinct too, like the “Wuhan flu”

    Now they suggest keep on using the same old vaccine (against the “Wuhan flu”) but just use it more and more.

    There is some use to doing this because each time the body may make different antibodies and some may work against all of them.

    There is another vaccine against all versions maybe which may get approved around September.

    https://www.science.org/content/article/powerful-new-covid-19-vaccine-shows-90-efficacy-could-boost-worlds-supply

    Against eight viral variants of interest and concern, its efficacy was 93.2%.

    Novavax is not alone. Several vaccine companies re working on an all purpose SARS 2 vaccine.

    Of course the FDA is going through all its slow paces. This, or something like this, could have been available maybe a year ago.

    It’s taking so long because Donald Trump is no longer president and Mark Meadows is no longer White House chief of staff. Although Mark Meadows probably wouldn’t still be in place anyway.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  27. DCSCA (39f7d9) — 7/21/2022 @ 1:18 pm

    So Trump’s Operation Warp Speed saves Biden’s life?!?!

    Operation Warp Speed was the original vaccine, and to a lesser degree, the monoclonal antibodies. Governor DeSantis was pushing that in Florida, until they stopped working, and even after they stopped working in most cases. (they’ve since been replaced by other monoclonal antibodies)

    The antivirals were on even more of a back burner.

    Of course, Trump was looking for anything that worked immediately, like , hydroxychloroquine (which may account for the relatively low level of death in East Africa) and even asked a question about bleach.

    They made fun of him but he dropped that bleach idea as soon as he got an answer to his question, and hydroxychloroquine (whatever its limited effect, which might be mostly increasing the absorption of zinc by cells) was superseded by the synthetic antibodies.

    And of course there was immunity. It was ridiculous to say that they only worked for a limited period of time, but the virus had several mutated versions.

    Thank him, Joe.

    Film at 11. 😉

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  28. OT- 53 years ago today– when America was truly great:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Cs-XJ_E3I

    “Roger, understand we’re number one on the runway…”

    DCSCA (39f7d9)

  29. @BuDuh – a lot depends on the viral dose.

    When the virus hit a new population, the percentage of cases that were very mild or asymptomatic was very high, but as time went on the percentage of serious and even fatal cases grew.

    Because the cumulative viral dose mattered!

    If you call cases A, B C and D etc according to how serious they were, an A case could give someone else a B case, who could give someone else a C case and so on.

    This is simple logic, but virtually impossible to demonstrate

    The longer Covid stayed around the more serious the cases got, so that it invariably went from circulating virtually underground to a situation with many people hospitalized and worse.

    All without the virus changing in any way.

    An example of a place where a virus gradually spiraled out of control was New Delhi. The virus there was later called delta.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  30. At least he doesn’t have dementia.

    mg (8cbc69)

  31. Biden doesn’t have cancer. He plain simply lied. He said he has cancer because of oil refineries.

    But it developed he had a form of skin cancer which was removed before he became president, and the doctor attributed it to exposure to sunlight, possibly dating from the time he was a lifeguard.

    At one point earlier, maybe as recently as three months ago, he had blamed oil refining for (his) asthma.

    Google found: (a typical right wing treatment?)

    https://www.thetrumpet.com/stephen-flurry/25905-joe-bidens-asthma-cancer-and-coronavirus

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  32. At 6:55 on the Trumpet video: On April 22 Joe Biden told the same story but said he got asthma (not cancer) as a result.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  33. 31… now that was just mean, mg.

    But much deserved.

    Colonel Haiku (984190)

  34. Are we sure this isn’t invisible covid? Did he put his fist in the air after he announced it and walked away?

    frosty (3e282e)

  35. President Biden’s team came up with the Covid excuse as a reason for not shaking Mohammed bin Salman’s hand. They simply didn’t want a picture. They did a fist bump instead. But this was the only place Biden did that.

    They didn’t want any pictures of them together, so U.S. reporters were not allowed to photograph it, but the Saudis took pictures and released it.

    Biden also extended his hand, with no one to take it, in Israel — some people (on the Internet?) said he was looking for Netanyahu.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  36. https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-variant-data

    Between July 10 and July 16, 2022 CDC’s program for HHS Region 2 (New York, New Jersey, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico) estimated 100% of samples were the Omicron variant.

    During this time period 0.3% of Omicron sequences were lineage BA.2, 8.9% were BA.2.12.1, 10.7% were BA.4 and 80.0% were BA.5.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  37. Immunity means something if people who get the variants are able to fight it off.

    “fight it off” is a remarkably inaccurate term.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  38. Remember when Trump and his cholesterol were the biggest health issue on the planet?

    mg (8cbc69)

  39. They made fun of him but he dropped that bleach idea as soon as he got an answer to his question

    Maybe you can quote the “bleach idea?” I think you may be thinking of the caricature of Trump and not what was actually discussed.

    BuDuh (340919)

  40. @31. At least he doesn’t have dementia.

    Somerthing worse: he has HRC tail-grabbing hiz azz. If the party calls, she’ll answer: Kamala gets the Eagleton bums-rush and the VP gig is hers.

    DCSCA (a448a3)

  41. When Barack Obama was elected in 2012, I wished him well*, because if he did well, the nation would do well. In much the same way, as someone who did not vote for Joe Biden, I wish him a speedy and complete recovery, because that’s the right thing to do, and because that would be best for the nation.

    So, get well, soon, Joe, and may you be back on a bicycle, soon.

    I am not claiming any credit for those wishes, since that is what any clear-thinking patriot would do, or, for that matter, anyone who thinks we ought follow the Golden Rule.

    (*At the sme time, I predicted he would fail, and think my predictions were reasonably accurate. I wish I had been wrong.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  42. Brandon Falls, Delaware, where the rubber meets the road, doesn’t stop short; says, “Give him a brake.” 😉

    DCSCA (a448a3)

  43. Ha, dude is going Disco Granny in the coming winter and you’ll get Eugene Sawyer in a pant suit.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  44. Trump did not say “bleach”. He said “disinfectant”.

    “By injection.” Which, I suppose, would include bleach, ammonia, and peroxide. But not Granny Clampett’s lye
    soap?

    nk (22f6bb)

  45. Has AOC or the squad wished for his recovery yet?

    asset (16140e)

  46. @40. Fact-check: Did Trump tell people to drink bleach to kill the coronavirus?

    Joe Biden: On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”

    PolitiFact’s ruling: Mostly False. Here’s why:

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/13/fact-check-did-trump-tell-people-to-drink-bleach-to-kill-coronavirus/113754708/

    Now let’s do GHWBush and the grocery scanner tale… 😉

    DCSCA (a448a3)

  47. 46, did they condemn this?

    urbanleftbehind (90a8b3)

  48. “fight it off” is a remarkably inaccurate term.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/21/2022 @ 5:23 pm

    How so? It’s a fairly common phrase to describe an immune response. How is it less accurate than @20? Sayings “IT’S FAST” isn’t exactly a model of scientific precision.

    frosty (b4c1c2)

  49. When Barack Obama was elected in 2012, I wished him well*, because if he did well, the nation would do well.

    I did not wish him well, in the sense that I did not wish him able to fulfill his promises to turn us into a Euro socialism. I did not wish Obamacare well since it triple my medical costs and reduced my coverage. I did not wish his dystopian “Life of Julia” well and noted that Julia was the female lead in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

    That doesn’t mean I wanted him to fall into a well. There were other ways to stop him, such as the elections of 2014 and 2016.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  50. Republican candidate for governor Lee Zelden was attacked while giving an anti-abortion speech. It begins.

    asset (0e966c)

  51. Biden is taking two drugs, which were stopped for the duration of his 5-day treatment, It;s the simplest thing to do, and these are the type of drugs that are taken for statistical reasons – every day isn’t critical.

    They will do a test for the variant.

    Sammy Finkelman (b7dc9b)

  52. Republican candidate for governor Lee Zelden was attacked while giving an anti-abortion speech. It begins.

    You need to contact the FBI immediately, asset. Immediately! And tell them all you know about any conspiracy to commit violence against government officials and candidates because of their political views. Lee Zelden is a U.S. Representative which makes it a federal offense. It’s also domestic terrorism, which is also a federal offense.

    nk (ae9208)

  53. It was ironically during the end Bail Reform segment of the speech.

    urbanleftbehind (8999cd)

  54. …and – as expected – Zelden’s attacker was released.

    Colonel Haiku (a4ee24)

  55. Not a joke.

    Colonel Haiku (a4ee24)

  56. True, sadly, CH…. a “latent” lynch mob parked/posted outside his residence but not trespassing would be apropos.

    urbanleftbehind (8999cd)

  57. Biden is taking two drugs, which were stopped for the duration of his 5-day treatment

    There is a very long list of drugs that cannot be taken with Covid, and another list of drugs that should be reconsidered.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  58. Covid Paxlovid

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  59. Well, whether asset calls the FBI or not, I’m sure Lee Zeldin knows that he can. And should. Mr. Jakubonis (that’s a Russian name, BTW) should expect a visit.

    nk (436965)

  60. Lithuanian I’m thinking…that’s a St. Rita HS lineman kind of name.

    urbanleftbehind (8999cd)

  61. Do the vaxed have a separate pandemic?

    mg (8cbc69)

  62. Well, whether asset calls the FBI or not, I’m sure Lee Zeldin knows that he can.
    ……..
    Republican candidate for governor Lee Zelden was attacked while giving an anti-abortion speech. It begins.

    Not sure why the FBI would be involved. What would be the federal crime?

    And Zeldin was attacked just before a speech on bail reform, not abortion. The ironies abound.

    Zeldin was giving a speech about bail reform at a Veterans of Foreign Wars post when the alleged assault happened.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  63. Not sure why the FBI would be involved. What would be the federal crime?

    Yeah, I wondered the same thing when Hinckley shot Reagan. Zeldin is a United States Representative. As in United States House of Representatives. As in Congress. It is a federal crime to try to stab those people. You’re not even allowed to punch them out.

    nk (622d49)

  64. Yeah, I wondered the same thing when Hinckley shot Reagan. Zeldin is a United States Representative. As in United States House of Representatives. As in Congress. It is a federal crime to try to stab those people.

    My bad. Didn’t know he was a Congressman.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  65. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/22/2022 @ 8:01 am

    There is a very long list of drugs that cannot be taken with Covid, and another list of drugs that should be reconsidered.

    That’s just the FDA recommendations. It’s not entirely factual. There is no reason to prescribe exactly.

    They don’t give drugs that are primarily given for their long term effects, at the same time as the PAxlovid regimen but since the main adverse effect is to slow down elimination, it could also be compensated for. The FDA always wants the simplest possible modification, which is doscontinue some drugs fora few days, and of course, doctors could use reasoning to determine how to adjust the dosage.

    I think for some drugs there could be problem with liver enzymes — the FDA should not merely make two lists. Maybe for some drugs there could be a real problem.

    Paxlovid, by the way, is not one drug — it is 3 drugs, two with a similar purpose and method of working (the antivirals) and one to keep levels of antivirals high in the bloodstream so that a person would not need to take more frequent doses.

    This third drug is used in conjunction with anti-HIV medications and every effect is well known (to some) by now.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  66. Mark Simone said on WOR (in passing) that since Governor Hochul called on Democrats to attend Lee Zeldin events, maybe there ought to be a July 21 committee. Or something like that.

    Of course this could reasonably be said to be unexpected and the attack lasted just seconds.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  67. 18 U.S. Code § 351 – Congressional, Cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination, kidnapping, and assault; penalties

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  68. Let’s see what happened, years ago, long before bail reform, to the people who stabbed Martin Luther King and Al Sharpton.

    https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/curry-izola-ware

    Following the stabbing, Curry was placed in Bellevue Hospital for observation and was found not competent to stand trial. On 20 October 1958, she was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and committed to Matteawan State Hospital for the Criminally Insane.

    https://buffalonews.com/news/supporters-of-sharpton-march-in-bensonhurst/article_ac91028c-3339-5504-a66b-fcd8f66dee4c.html

    Michael Riccardi, 27, was held without bail in the stabbing. He was charged with attempted murder, weapons possession and violation of civil rights.

    Later:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/25/nyregion/brooklyn-man-convicted-in-stabbing-of-sharpton.html

    A Brooklyn man was convicted of first-degree assault yesterday in the stabbing attack on the Rev. Al Sharpton early last year as Mr. Sharpton was preparing to lead a protest march.

    The man, Michael Riccardi, 28 years old, of 2045 73d Street in Bensonhurst, was also found guilty of third-degree criminal possession of a weapon by the jury in State Supreme Court in Brooklyn. Mr. Riccardi could face 5 to 15 years in prison when he is sentenced by Justice Francis X. Egitto on March 16.

    The jury, which deliberated yesterday for five hours before reaching its verdict, cleared Mr. Riccardi of other charges, including second-degree attempted murder, discrimination and aggravated harassment. Protesting in Bensonhurst

    Now the difference is, these were successful stabbings, and this was an unsuccessful one – and also this man is unlikely to be in the presence of Lee Zeldin again — but he might try stabbing someone else/

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  69. Senator Manchin also now has Ccovid test positive.

    Mark Steyn has said (broadcast on the Rush Hour hosted by James (Bo Snerdly) Goulden on WABC between 4 a nd 5 pm Eastern time) that the biggest piece of misinformation coming from the president was that if you take the vaccine, you won’t get Covid.

    That was an honest mistake I think but resulted from not being careful or skeptical enough.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

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