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7/1/2022

Weekend Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:53 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Let’s go!

First news item

Cheney: Wiped the floor with the competition but on track to lose election. Not a good look, Wyoming:

Pre-emptive strike: You can watch the debate in its entirety here.

Second news item

In Madrid, President Biden answers the question while ignoring some critical reasons why:

Q : The war [in Ukraine] has pushed [oil] prices up. They could go as high as $200 a barrel, some analysts think. How long is it fair to expect American drivers and drivers around the world to pay that premium for this war?

THE PRESIDENT: As long as it takes, so Russia cannot, in fact, defeat Ukraine and move beyond Ukraine. This is a critical, critical position for the world. Here we are. Why do we have NATO?

In a nutshell:

This is a terribly ineffective way to get the president off the hook for his policies that are generally hostile to oil companies and seek to eliminate the use of fossil fuels, and an inadvertently effective way to get Americans to doubt the value of supporting Ukraine against Russia.

Third news item

Emmett Till relatives say arrest her, seventy years later:

A team searching a Mississippi courthouse basement for evidence about the lynching of Black teenager Emmett Till has found the unserved warrant charging a white woman in his 1955 kidnapping, and relatives of the victim want authorities to finally arrest her nearly 70 years later.

A warrant for the arrest of Carolyn Bryant Donham — identified as “Mrs. Roy Bryant” on the document — was discovered last week by searchers inside a file folder that had been placed in a box, Leflore County Circuit Clerk Elmus Stockstill told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The search group included members of the Emmett Till Legacy Foundation and two Till relatives: cousin Deborah Watts, head of the foundation; and her daughter, Teri Watts. Relatives want authorities to use the warrant to arrest Donham, who at the time of the slaying was married to one of two white men tried and acquitted just weeks after Till was abducted from a relative’s home, killed and dumped into a river.

Fourth news item

“Accidentally,” you say??:

The government of California inadvertently made public the names, birthdates, and addresses of hundreds or perhaps thousands of licensed concealed-carry permit holders who live in the state.

California’s Firearms Dashboard Portal was launched earlier this week by Attorney General Rob Bonta. Its purpose…was to “improve transparency on the fraught topic.” Bonta’s office wanted residents to use the portal to obtain details on the number and locations of concealed-carry permit holders.

But on Wednesday, the government acknowledged that the dashboard had accidentally leaked some specific information on Californians who obtained—or were denied—permits between 2011 and 2021.

“Information exposed included names, date of birth, gender, race, driver’s license number, addresses, and criminal history,” said the California Department of Justice in a statement. “Social Security numbers or any financial information were not disclosed as a result of this event.”

Fifth news item

Despite increasing economic isolation, a new Iron Curtain comes down:

A new Iron Curtain is descending between Russia and the West, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday.

“From now on, we will trust neither the Americans nor the EU,” Lavrov said at a press conference after talks with his Belarusian counterpart, Vladimir Makei. “We will do everything necessary not to depend on them in critically important industries.”

Lavrov was concurring with comments made by Makei, regarding the appearance of a new Iron Curtain that was “being erected by Westerners themselves.” In echoing the Belarusian diplomat, Lavrov warned Western countries to “behave carefully.”

Sixth news item

President Biden says let’s nuke the fillibuster:

It’s almost like Democrats have never been in a majority position and could’ve possibly codified Roe v. Wade …Anyway, Americans aren’t necessarily on board with his plan:

A new YouGov poll, conducted June 27 – 30, indicates that Americans are split on the Senate’s current filibuster rule. About one-third (36%) oppose it, while 34% support it. About three in 10 adults (29%) are not sure. Americans are also split (41% to 38%) on whether legislation related to abortion should take a 60-vote majority or a 51-vote majority.

About half of Americans (51%) disapprove of Roe v Wade being overturned, with 34% approving — a greater margin for disapproval than was found in the latest Economist/YouGov survey, which began a few days earlier. Fewer are unsure (6%) or say they neither approve nor disapprove (9%) of the Supreme Court ending the constitutional right to abortion. When asked whether Biden and Congress have the power to ensure abortion access for Americans, Americans are much more likely to say that Congress (49%) could do anything as to say President Biden could (29%).

Even if Congress could act, many who believe the legislative branch has that power say it is unlikely to use it. By 45% to 23%, people who believe Congress could ensure abortion access for all Americans say Congress “definitely will not” or is “unlikely” to try to ensure abortion access for all Americans. One-third (32%) of this group say there is a 50% chance of it happening.

Both Sens. Manchin and Sinema have reiterated their opposition to such a move.

Seventh news item

Side-benefit of Jan.6 hearings: Deep-pocket donors backing off Trump:

Support from some of the Republican Party’s biggest donors for a 2024 White House run by former President Donald Trump is dwindling, especially after damaging new details of his actions on Jan. 6, 2021, were revealed at a hearing Tuesday by the House select committee investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Republican financiers and their advisors have been privately meeting since the committee started to release the initial findings of its probe in a series of public hearings earlier this month, according to interviews with top GOP fundraisers who have helped the party raise millions of dollars. Most of the people asked not to be named because they didn’t want to provoke retribution from Trump or his allies.

Eighth news item

Hm:

Ninth news item

What’s that you say:

Tenth news item

While redacted transcripts, videos, and footage of the Uvalde massacre were released last week, the heartache and frustration of Uvalde’s parents grinds on:

On Thursday, the people the residents of Uvalde elected to represent them had no answers for their constituents.

“The one thing I can tell you is, we don’t know anymore,” Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said at the meeting, adding that he, too, was frustrated at the lack of transparency from investigators.
“We’re not trying to hide anything from you,” the mayor insisted.

Uvalde County District Attorney Christina Mitchell Busbee has said it “will take time” to complete investigative reports of the shooting and response, and she doesn’t expect that information for a while.

Relatives of the victims say they’re tired of excuses.

Have a peaceful weekend.

–Dana

529 Responses to “Weekend Open Thread”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (1225fc)

  2. If Liz Cheney was running on Georgia or Colorado, she would win, but she’s not effectively countering anything/ She’s not much more cogent than the others.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  3. Biden wants to fail on what he attempting on abortion. He’s calling for making an exception for the filibuster for a a national law on abortion.

    The right to life people will not be much bothered by failure while the pro-abortion people will see it an argument for ellecting more Democrats.

    Biden won’t do things like opening abortion clinics in places state law may not apply (if there are any_

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  4. The last couple of Supreme Court decisions were good.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  5. “The one thing I can tell you is, we don’t know anymore,” Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin said at the meeting, adding that he, too, was frustrated at the lack of transparency from investigators.

    “We’re not trying to hide anything from you,” the mayor insisted.

    He decided he wasnt going to ait any longer and decided to suspend (with pay? ) the school police chief.

    Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Chief Pedro “Pete” Arredondo is also a newly elected city councilman. His swearing in was done in private.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  6. I see Arthur Laffer agrees in part with me:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/growth-austerity-inflation-larry-summers-unemployment-prices-jobs-rates-11656596482

    The secret to curing inflation isn’t economic collapse and high unemployment but the opposite: pro-growth policies that create incentives for more goods, more employment, less government spending and sound money. As the economy produces more, prices go down.

    But where I differ is that he doesn’t attribute a recession to higher interest rates.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  7. There are no good elections in New York Sate. Limited campaigns. There was no primary for Senator, Attorney general Controller in either party.

    Did you know Harry Wilson was pro choice. I read thaat in the paper (not conformed) but neither he or his main opponent Lee Zeldin mentioned that. Lee Zeldin kept calling him aNever Trumper. Harry Wilson kept running anti Zeldin adss. Andrew Giuliani did well apprently in the city but not in the heavisest Republican areas: Nassau Suffolk and Erie county. Rob Astorino cam n third.

    In the Dem primary Kathy Hochul coasted. Suozzi had nothing to say except that he was against crime and was afraid to suggest anything ese different. He came in third. He placed conf calls at 7 pm Monday bit didn;t know his campaign had rounded up the 15,000 people.

    I got a voter an autimated today call from Jumaine Williams om Wednesday at 7 pm/

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  8. (Texas) State education board members push back on proposal to use “involuntary relocation” to describe slavery
    A group of Texas educators have proposed to the Texas State Board of Education that slavery should be taught as “involuntary relocation” during second grade social studies instruction, but board members have asked them to reconsider the phrasing, according to the state board’s chair.
    ……..
    The working group of nine educators, including a professor at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley, is one of many such groups advising the state education board to make curriculum changes. …….. The board will have a final vote on the curriculum in November.

    The suggested change surfaced late during its June 15 meeting that lasted more than 12 hours. Board member Aicha Davis, a Democrat who represents Dallas and Fort Worth, brought up concerns to the board saying that wording is not a “fair representation” of the slave trade. ……
    ………
    …….. In 2015, Texas attracted attention when it was discovered a social studies textbook approved for use in the state called African slaves who were brought to the United States, “workers”

    In this case, the group proposing these second grade curriculum revisions was given a copy of Senate Bill 3, Texas’ law that dictates how slavery and issues of race are taught in Texas. The law states that slavery can’t be taught as part of the true founding of the United States and that slavery was nothing more than a deviation from American values.
    ………
    Part of the proposed social studies curriculum standards outlines that students should “compare journeys to America, including voluntary Irish immigration and involuntary relocation of African people during colonial times.”
    ………

    Recall that earlier this year a Texas educator called for teaching “opposing views” regarding the Holocaust::

    “And make sure that if you have a book on the Holocaust that you have one that has an opposing, that has other perspectives.”

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  9. The last couple of Supreme Court decisions were good.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a) — 7/1/2022 @ 2:12 pm

    All of the end of term decisions were fantastic.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  10. Not a good look, Wyoming

    dear Wyoming,

    do better!!

    best regards,
    California

    JF (ffc386)

  11. Poll: Quarter of Americans open to armed rebellion against government
    A new University of Chicago poll found that over a quarter of a deeply alienated American public, particularly those who identify as Republican, believe that it may “soon be necessary to take up arms” against the government,

    …….A slight majority of those (polled) 56%, said they believed the government was corrupt and “rigged against everyday people like me,” with self-identified Republicans polling substantially higher on that question than Democrats.

    In total, 28% of voters agreed with the statement “it may be necessary at some point soon for citizens to take up arms against the government.” That skewed heavily toward Republicans, with one in three Republicans and 45% of self-identified “strong Republicans” agreeing with the statement. The GOP doesn’t hold a monopoly on the sentiment, though – one in five Democrats agreed, as did 35% of self-identified independent voters.

    The belief in armed resistance was loosely correlated with actual gun ownership. About 37% of those who said they had guns in their homes also agreed with the “taking up arms” statement.
    ……….
    Nineteen percent of those polled said that a friend or relative had broken off relationships with them because of politics (and) 25% of respondents who said the polarization had made them physically ill and to the 8% who said they had sought therapy because of it.
    ………

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  12. This was Wyoming’s Republican primary debate.

    118 seconds.

    DCSCA (d2e9f0)

  13. All of the end of term decisions were fantastic.
    Rip Murdock (7a050e) — 7/1/2022 @ 3:03 pm

    Rip, your comment got cut off at the end, but I found it:

    Thank you, Trump voters!!

    oh gosh you’re welcome, Rip!

    JF (1c8beb)

  14. DCSCA, I provided you with a link to the complete debate. You’re welcome.

    Dana (1225fc)

  15. Jonah’s concise answer to Biden’s filibuster exception proposal…
    blockquote>Filibuster exception for things I want is not a great argument.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  16. 118 pretty much covers it, D. But thanks. 😉

    Post some more b/w pix, Dana.

    DCSCA (d2e9f0)

  17. dear Wyoming,

    do better!!

    best regards,
    California

    At least the winters are better in CA, as are the beaches.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  18. For UCLA Bruin fans ( as well as those of the other Los Angeles PAC-12 university) a stunning decision about their future:

    ……..
    …….. USC and UCLA officially announced they are leaving the Pac-12 for the Big Ten Conference, college sports fans from coast to coast were forced to conjure up a vision that what would have once — in simpler times, perhaps — seemed unthinkable.
    ……..
    The Big Ten presidents and chancellors formally accepted their applications for membership Thursday afternoon, but the work that went into getting to the finish line began many months ago as the crosstown rivals assessed their respective futures in an increasingly unstable Pac-12 Conference. For each, the compass continued to point them eastward to plentiful Big Ten paydays.

    The schools’ Midwestern migration will begin on Aug. 2, 2024, and include all sports except beach volleyball, men’s volleyball and men’s and women’s water polo.
    ……….
    With so much unknown about where athlete compensation is headed beyond (name, image, and likeness), USC and UCLA leaders felt they had to address the long-term financial viability of their programs.

    “As the oldest NCAA Division I athletic conference in the United States and with a footprint that will now extend from the Pacific to the Atlantic, Big Ten membership offers Bruins exciting new competitive opportunities and a broader national media platform for our student-athletes to compete and showcase their talents,” UCLA chancellor Gene Block and (UCLA Athletic Director Martin) Jarmond said in a joint letter. “Specifically, this move will enhance name, image and likeness opportunities through greater exposure.”
    ……..
    The Trojans and Bruins will boost the Big Ten to 16, too, and there’s a chance the league will continue to add members. Multiple sources told The Times Thursday, however, that no other Pac-12 members are expected to be added to the Big Ten at this time.
    ……..
    The Big Ten is currently negotiating its next media rights deal and is expected to be able to fetch upwards of $1 billion per year. Adding the Southern California media market to its product will only make the league’s offerings more desirable at just the right time.
    ………

    <emIt’s all about money. Playing The Ohio State, Michigan, or Penn State will be a lot colder than playing Stanford or Berkeley. The PAC-12 is dead.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  19. At least the winters are better in CA, as are the beaches.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e) — 7/1/2022 @ 4:24 pm

    Even Hollywood agrees the tax rates are better, that’s why they all use Teton County as a tax haven.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  20. About the Bonta leak. Since it came a couple of days after the Supreme Court struck down NY’s gun laws (and probably CA’s — they issued orders for several gun cases (challenging the state bans on high-capacity magazines and semi-auto rifles) to be returned to district court to be reconciled with Bruen, it is unlikely it was accidental.


    WSJ editorial

    Now, Bonta is not going to be prosecuted in California, nor will he be impeached. All that can be done is a class-action suit, and he will probably claim qualified immunity.

    Whatever happened to “a nation of laws, not of men”? Or the Rule of Law in California, for that matter.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  21. Emerson Poll: Trump Leads GOP for 2024
    ……….
    Trump (55%) clearly was the choice of GOP voters for 2024, Emerson results showed. He was followed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (20%) and former Vice President Mike Pence (9%). No other potential Republican candidate received more than 5%.
    ………
    A total of 35% said the (January 6th committee) hearings made it less likely they would vote for the former president, 32% said they were more likely, and 28% said the hearings made no difference.
    ……..
    “Half of Republicans say they are more likely to vote for Trump following the January 6th hearings, while a plurality, 38%, of Independents say they are less likely to support Trump if he runs in 2024,” (ECP Executive Director Spencer) Kimball said..”
    ……..
    “Those with a college degree or less are about 33% less likely to vote for Trump because of the hearings, whereas 51% of those with a postgraduate degree are less likely to support Trump because of the hearings,” Kimball said.
    ………

    Poll toplines.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  22. Any abortion poll that does not include gestation time as a qualifier is utter crap. They know that if they say anything about trimesters, they will get far different answers after 13 weeks. So they don’t ask. It’s not like they don’t know.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  23. People who support Trump after these hearings are uniformly people who have not watched any of them. I wonder if they’ll say the same think after he’s imprisoned. Probably.

    The more likely it is that Trump will run (and win), the more likely the DOJ will haul him up on sedition charges. The very last thing they want is a vengeful and re-elected President Trump.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  24. I was just reading that Trump has told advisors that he might make an early announcement for a 2024 bid on social media before notifying anyone else. That might come sooner rather than later:

    While many Republicans would welcome Mr. Trump’s entry into the race, his move would also exacerbate persistent divisions over whether the former president is the party’s best hope to win back the White House. The party is also divided over whether his candidacy would be an unnecessary distraction from midterm elections or even a direct threat to democracy.

    Mr. Trump has long hinted at a third consecutive White House bid and has campaigned for much of the past year. He has accelerated his planning in recent weeks just as a pair of investigations have intensified and congressional testimony has revealed new details about Mr. Trump’s indifference to the threat of violence on Jan. 6 and his refusal to act to stop an insurrection.

    Mr. Trump would enter the race as the clear front-runner, with an approval rating among Republicans around 80 percent, but there are signs that a growing number of the party’s voters are exploring other options.

    The timing of a formal announcement from Mr. Trump remains uncertain. But he recently surprised some advisers by saying he might declare his candidacy on social media without warning even his own team, and aides are scrambling to build out basic campaign infrastructure in time for an announcement as early as this month.

    There would be drawbacks for him if he does announcement early:

    That timing would be extraordinary — presidential candidates typically announce their candidacies in the year before the election — and could have immediate implications for Republicans seeking to take control of Congress in November. Mr. Trump’s presence as an active candidate would make it easier for Democrats to turn midterm races into a referendum on the former president, who since losing in 2020 has relentlessly spread lies about the legitimacy of the election. Some Republicans fear that would distract from pocketbook issues that have given their party a strong advantage in congressional races.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he announced on July 4 (evidence of his patriotism!)

    Dana (1225fc)

  25. Uvalde: Torches and pitchforks. Burn the police station and city hall to the ground.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  26. CRISPR is ten years old, as the NYT reminded me on Tuesday.

    And, it is beginning to be used in high school classrooms.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  27. New U.S. Guided Rockets Strengthen Ukraine’s Hand Against Russia
    American-supplied high-tech rocket launchers have begun arriving on the front line in eastern Ukraine. Already they are shifting the balance of power in the fierce artillery duel being fought with Russian forces, Ukrainian officers say.

    For more than a month, a Russian field headquarters not far from here was frustratingly beyond the range of Lt. Valentyn Koval’s Soviet-era artillery battery, he said. That changed last week, when Lt. Koval’s unit got a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or Himars.

    Under cover of darkness, his unit drove the truck-mounted rocket launcher into position, punched in coordinates and pressed the launch button. Six 200-pound rockets slammed into the Russian position, largely destroying it, said Lt. Koval, who commands two Himars batteries.
    ……….
    Four Himars batteries were delivered in June and four more are expected by mid-July. On Thursday, President Biden said Ukraine would receive additional batteries from other countries and more ammunition from the U.S. as part of a new $800 million assistance package.
    ……….
    Soviet-designed Smerch and Uragan long-range multiple-launch systems are imprecise and time-consuming to use, relying on analog instruments for targeting. The systems are unarmored, difficult to maneuver and often break down, exposing operators to risk of counterattack.

    Himars are smaller and easier to maneuver, helping them hide from enemy reconnaissance. Crews work inside an armored cabin. And they are fast: once parked, they can begin launching rockets within two or three minutes and move again 20 seconds after firing.
    ……….
    ……….(V)ideo footage posted online showed the Russian headquarters at a school in Izyum on fire. Lt. Koval said 17 Russian service members were killed, including a colonel and two majors, more than 20 were wounded and many vehicles were destroyed.
    ………
    A few days later, Himars hit a Russian military barracks where new recruits were sleeping, inflicting heavy losses, Lt. Koval said. In a third attack he described, the Ukrainians directed all four Himars at Russian positions in one Ukrainian town, sending 24 rockets against targets in the same area. Another strike struck in the town of Zymohirya, some 30 miles behind the frontline, Lt. Koval said.

    Due to the $155,000 price tag per rocket, the Ukrainians are focusing the firepower on high-value targets like military headquarters, weapons depots and barracks rather than individual Russian tanks or artillery systems. …….
    …….
    On his body armor, Lt. Koval wears a patch he received from a U.S. instructor showing a coiled rattlesnake above the words “Don’t tread on me.” He said he is grateful to the American people for providing sophisticated weaponry so that Ukrainians can push the Russians out of his country. “We understand from this assistance that we are not alone in this fight,” he said.
    ##########

    Related:

    Ukraine drives Russian forces from Snake Island, a setback for Moscow.

    Russian troops have withdrawn from Snake Island in the Black Sea after repeated assaults by Ukrainian forces, a move that is a setback for Moscow’s forces and possibly undermines their control over vital shipping lanes for grain in the Black Sea.

    The retreat came after sustained Ukrainian attacks — including with powerful, newly arrived Western weapons — made it impossible for Russian forces to hold the island, a small speck of land 20 miles off the coast of Odesa that has played an outsize role throughout the war.
    ……….
    The fortress island has little value except as a base for Black Sea operations and has been a target for the Russians since the first day of the invasion. The Russian withdrawal, coming only a week after the Kremlin bragged about repelling a Ukrainian attempt to retake the island, appeared to be another instance of Moscow’s scaling down its military ambitions in the face of Ukrainian resistance.
    ………..

    Victory to Ukraine!

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  28. All of the end of term decisions were fantastic.

    Take a look at the orders regarding some pending cases sent back to district courts for reconciling with those decisions.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/063022zor_5he6.pdf

    21A222
    BRNOVICH, MARK V. ISAACSON, PAUL, ET AL. (21-1609)
    The application for stay presented to Justice Kagan and by
    her referred to the Court is treated as a petition for a writ of
    certiorari before judgment, and the petition is granted. The
    September 28, 2021 order of the United States District Court for
    the District of Arizona is vacated, and the case is remanded to
    the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit with
    instructions to remand to the District Court for further
    consideration in light of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health
    Organization, 597 U. S. ___ (2022).

    20-1375
    BOX, KRISTINA, ET AL. V. PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF IN & KY
    The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The
    judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United
    States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit for further
    consideration in light of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health
    Organization, 597 U. S. ___ (2022). Justice Barrett took no
    part in the consideration or decision of this petition.

    20-1434
    RUTLEDGE, ATT’Y GEN. OF AR V. LITTLE ROCK FAMILY PLANNING
    The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The
    judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United
    States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit for further
    consideration in light of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health
    Organization, 597 U. S. ___ (2022).

    20-1507
    ASSN. OF NJ RIFLE, ET AL. V. BRUCK, ATT’Y GEN. OF NJ, ET AL.
    The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The
    judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United
    States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit for further
    consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn.,
    Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U. S. ___ (2022).

    20-1639 YOUNG, GEORGE K. V. HAWAII, ET AL.
    21-1194 DUNCAN, VIRGINIA, ET AL. V. BONTA, ATT’Y GEN. OF CA
    The petitions for writs of certiorari are granted. The
    judgments are vacated, and the cases are remanded to the United
    States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit for further
    consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn.,
    Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U. S. ___ (2022).

    21-902
    BIANCHI, DOMINIC, ET AL. V. FROSH, ATT’Y GEN. OF MD, ET AL.
    The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The
    judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the United
    States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit for further
    consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn.,
    Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U. S. ___ (2022).

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  29. 17- the fruits and nuts have ruined cantafordya

    mg (8cbc69)

  30. I wouldn’t be surprised if he announced on July 4 (evidence of his patriotism!)

    I suspect that he’d do this early to give talk of arrest and trial a political-prisoner flavor, or at least it would to some of his supporters. You just know those would be the spin Tucker Carlson would give it (assuming something crazier didn’t come to mind).

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  31. @29: that’s the old news. Gays are mainstream now; nearly straight compared to the new cutting edge.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  32. Prediction: Trump won’t be indicted, they only want to smear him. An indictment would open a real can of worms.

    Colonel Haiku (7a0ac3)

  33. There would be drawbacks for him if he does announcement early……..

    One of the largest drawbacks is that it would require any Trump campaign to register with the FEC and comply with its reporting requirements. I think any “announcements” will be ”testing the waters” to avoid registering as a candidate, though “ funds raised to test the waters are subject to the Federal Election Campaign Act”.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  34. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/1/2022 @ 5:36 pm

    Your point being what? That there will be more litigation? I’m shocked!

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  35. It is an indisputable and invariable historical fact that civilization and culture, and just plain literacy, develop in temperate climates. Not too cold, not too hot, not too damp, not too dry. From there, they may make their way to the boonies or they may not.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  36. Your point being what? That there will be more litigation? I’m shocked!

    That there will be less litigation. Other questions abide, abortion and the right to carry are now … wait for it … settled law.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  37. Your point being what? That there will be more litigation? I’m shocked!

    All those cases had come to the court and got decided in passing. As nk says “settled law.”

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  38. comply with its reporting requirements.

    Bwahahahaha. Real Soon Now.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  39. Happy Canada Day! To our neighbors up north. (I haven’t forgotten the way they took in travelers stranded afer the 9/11 attack — among other things.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  40. It’s pretty amazing that they were all ready with new carry rules in NY and CA. Not to mention that “accidental” leak. They planned all of this, knowing what was coming, and then expressed shock and surprise when it did. Captain Renault’s shock was more believable.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  41. Well, they (and I mean Kirsten Gillibrand) were threatening the Court (and I mean threatening) even while it was still considering granting cert. They knew what a corrupt mess that could not stand scrutiny New York’s weapons laws are.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  42. What happened to gas prices in the US this week? They went down.

    Since Monday, the national average for a gallon of regular gasoline has decreased by four cents to $4.85. Due to the delayed release of the Energy Information Administration’s (EIA) report on gasoline supply and demand last week, the federal agency released two weeks of data yesterday that showed gasoline demand decreased each week. Gas demand currently sits at 8.93 million b/d, which is lower than last year’s rate of 9.11 million b/d at the end of June. On the other hand, total domestic gasoline stocks increased by 2.6 million bbl to 221.6 million bbl. These supply/demand dynamics and decreasing oil prices have pushed pump prices lower. As these trends continue, drivers will likely continue to see relief at the pump.

    (Emphasis added.)

    That won’t please Putin, or his supporters here in the United States.

    (Those who were blaming Biden for all of the previous increase will now, naturally, give him credit for this decrease. Okay, I couldn’t resist that little joke. Just to be clear, I didn’t blame him for much of the increase, and I don’t give him much credit for this continuing decrease.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  43. Wyoming: My god. Everyone up there is a moron! Utter and complete moron. The average IQ of the people running for that House seat is about 35, with Liz’s 140 bringing up the score.

    What total fukwits.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  44. @42: Gas prices have been steadily rising. They jump 90 cents in one week, drift down 50 cents the next 5 weeks, then jump up a dollar the next. And while they drift down, someone is always johnny-on-the-spot to make a point about it.

    It was 4.85 here 3 weeks ago, it’s 4.35 now. I have no doubt it will be over $5 the next time my neighbor’s dog barks.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  45. Gasoline was $1.89 in January 2019.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  46. (Those who were blaming Biden for all of the previous increase will now, naturally, give him credit for this decrease. Okay, I couldn’t resist that little joke. Just to be clear, I didn’t blame him for much of the increase, and I don’t give him much credit for this continuing decrease.)

    I blame Biden for all of it. The inflation he started by printing yet another trillion of so monopoly dollars that he then just gave away.

    The oil price rise which he started by telling everyone he was going to bankrupt the oil producers, and killing the Keystone XL pipeline. Oil is a commodity that fluctuates in production based on expectations of future prices. He made them, all think “better hold onto your oil!” and they did, predictably driving the price up. Then he attacked the Saudis for being jerks (they are but it doesn’t help).

    Then he picked a fight with Putin (I agree with that) after pissing off every oil producer, even Canada. But to listen to Biden, he’s this helpless victim of world events instead of The Leader of the Free World™.

    Bah. It’s all on Biden, and maybe Yellen (who assured us all there would be no inflation despite printing all that Monopoly money).

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  47. People who support Trump after these hearings are uniformly people who have not watched any of them. I wonder if they’ll say the same think after he’s imprisoned. Probably.
    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/1/2022 @ 5:20 pm

    DoomsdayTrump Indictment Clock update:
    100 seconds to midnight

    JF (e55ec9)

  48. Well, the barking dog theory is a new one for me. But it does raise this possibility: If you can train that dog to bark on command, you can make a lot of money in the options markets.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  49. Wyoming: My god. Everyone up there is a moron! Utter and complete moron. The average IQ of the people running for that House seat is about 35, with Liz’s 140 bringing up the score.

    What total fukwits.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/1/2022 @ 6:48 pm

    I’ll take Wyoming’s “utter and complete morons” over any choom-smoking American West state’s drug addicts and mentally ill neurotics, and that especially includes my home state of Colorado.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  50. Better than a fire in Yellowstone I guess. Liz Cheney, I mean. The only other time people notice Wyoming’s existence.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  51. “We will do everything necessary not to depend on them in critically important industries.”

    There are semiconductor fabs in Russia. They produce designs using 130nm and 90nm design rules. The West (meaning TSMC and Intel) is at 5nm (TSMC) and 7nm (Intel). Intel was at 130nm in 2001 and 90nm in 2003. So, Russia is TWENTY years behind the curve.

    Good luck competing, Comrade.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  52. I’ll take Wyoming’s “utter and complete morons”

    Did you watch that 2-minute segment? Everyone posting here has, at minimum, 50 IQ points on those submoron whackjobs.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  53. If you can train that dog to bark on command, you can make a lot of money in the options markets.

    All my neighbors have dogs.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  54. Prediction: Biden will try for another round of stimulus (to help us cope with Putin’s inflation) sometime around October. It’s what Newsom is doing in CA.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  55. Well, actually 3-nanometers.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  56. At 53, are they all pit bulls or regular kind of dogs?

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  57. Did you watch that 2-minute segment? Everyone posting here has, at minimum, 50 IQ points on those submoron whackjobs.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/1/2022 @ 7:29 pm

    I said what I said.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  58. The only other time people notice Wyoming’s existence.

    nk (e4e6b8) — 7/1/2022 @ 7:24 pm

    God, let’s hope so. Too many mentally ill leftists are moving out to Cody and Casper as it is. They should stick to the Teton and Laramie County containment areas.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  59. CDC Caught Using False Data To Recommend Kids’ COVID Vaccine

    this is so out of character for this administration

    JF (16de96)

  60. Jim, Samsung is not yet producing commercial ICs at 3nm, they are just shaking out their line. They had promised to start 1H2022 and it’s June 29th. That doesn’t mean that they aren’t doing it, but they are just starting. Also, Samsung mostly produces memories (and similar, like image sensors), which are the easiest thing to fab since they are regular and can have fault-tolerant designs.

    TSMC says 2H2022, and Intel says 2H2023. Intel is playing catch-up after their previous CEO (an accountant) cut R&D and fab modernization to the bone. Both TSMC and Intel produce complex designs and very little if any memory.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  61. They should stick to the Teton and Laramie County containment areas.

    Too expensive.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  62. At 53, are they all pit bulls or regular kind of dogs?

    Well, is a Doberman a regular dog? I’m not usually snooping into people’s yards and can’t recognize a breed from their bark (other than to say these are not yap dogs).

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  63. @59: The CDC has been a cesspool of foolishness for quite some time.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  64. Wyoming: My god. Everyone up there is a moron!

    And they elected Daughter Darth. Won’t make the same mistake again.

    “So?” – Dick Cheney

    DCSCA (403b2c)

  65. Wyoming: My god. Everyone up there is a moron! Utter and complete moron. The average IQ of the people running for that House seat is about 35, with Liz’s 140 bringing up the score.
    What total fukwits.
    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/1/2022 @ 6:48 pm

    the folks who told us trump was so bad he couldn’t beat demented joe are impressed at how smart liz is when she’s trailing total fukwits

    JF (16de96)

  66. The Doberman Pinscher was the bad dog of the late 70s to mid 80s in south side Chicago, so in a way they are analogous to standard gays vs trannies (pit bulls and their mixes). Pit Bull populations are sometimes a reflection of restrictive gun laws as in being a forced substitute.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  67. The only other time people notice Wyoming’s existence

    Oily people spend a lot of time discussin’ pumpin’ in Jackson Hole.

    DCSCA (403b2c)

  68. Jim Miller (406a93) — 7/1/2022 @ 6:32 pm

    the price gas comes down less than 1% and Jim Miller’s throwing a party

    it’s gone up 100% since inauguration

    JF (16de96)

  69. the price gas comes down less than 1% and Jim Miller’s throwing a party

    Not for long…

    Putin orders transfer of Sakhalin-2 gas project to Russian entity

    Development in which Shell, Mitsubishi and Mitsui are stakeholders is first to be nationalized since Ukraine invasion

    https://www.ft.com/content/787d185a-d64b-4568-a181-93229e17d266

    DCSCA (9e5685)

  70. Adler is a conservative with some expertise on environmental issues, and he clarifies the recent Supreme Court decision on EPA authority. Bottom line, Obama’s Clean Power Plan went beyond what Congress gave him the authority to do.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  71. Other Secret Service personnel verified Trump’s temper tantrum after his stemwinder on 1/6/2021.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  72. In retrospect, it would have been good if Trump went to the Capitol.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  73. End fillibuster? This is after he makes a secret deal with mcconnell to appoint an anti abortion judge in ky to protect hunter biden.

    asset (4dd68c)

  74. 31- was not referring to homosexuals, was referring to the lawyers and political hacks that live in cantafordya

    mg (8cbc69)

  75. Oily people spend a lot of time discussin’ pumpin’ in Jackson Hole.

    That’s a hell of a double entendre, DC.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  76. For those interested in the Los Angeles mayor’s race……..

    With all ballots counted, L.A.’s left makes big gains; Bass is mayoral front-runner
    ……….
    County officials spent weeks reviewing and tabulating late-arriving mail-in ballots, which offered results that were sharply different from the first snapshot on election night. The election, which saw more than 84% of ballots cast by mail, revealed the expanding political might of L.A.’s left, which succeeded in unseating a councilman and securing big gains for several other candidates.

    (Former Rep. Karen) Bass is now firmly the front-runner in the race to replace L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti, finishing the primary with a seven-point lead despite an onslaught of expensive campaign ads from Caruso. In other contests, candidates who appeared to be trailing on election night are now in the lead or in much stronger positions for the runoff.

    Bass is already deep into runoff mode, reminding supporters that Caruso registered as a Democrat only at the start of the year.
    ……….
    Caruso has been tending to his base in the San Fernando Valley, meeting in recent days with firefighters in Sunland-Tujunga and restaurant patrons in Porter Ranch — both neighborhoods that are among the city’s more conservative. The businessman, who spent tens of millions of dollars on his campaign, faces a much tougher time building support among elected Democrats, who might have “defected” had Caruso arrived in first place, said political consultant Eric Hacopian.

    “By any measure, he underperformed, given his advantages,” said Hacopian, who is not involved in city races this year.

    Caruso’s team disputed that notion and remains confident about his prospects.
    ……….
    Nevertheless, Caruso faces questions about how much headway he can make in a city where progressive Democrats and, in some races, Democratic Socialists made trailblazing gains in down-ballot contests.
    ……….

    Thankfully I live in one of the beach suburbs……

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  77. Power is not only what you have, but what people think you have. — Some Southsider

    It’s the LA Times in this particular story (and I mean as in Brothers Grimm) but it’s true about all the Democrat organs that call themselves news media. I read them, but I don’t believe them and neither should anybody else.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  78. ……. I read them, but I don’t believe them and neither should anybody else.

    nk (e4e6b8) — 7/2/2022 @ 5:47 am

    So you don’t believe that Karen Bass won the primary by seven points?

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  79. How many people like her was she competing against, and how many people like him was was Caruso competing against, and how will it be when it’s one-on-one with nobody else to siphon off either one’s votes?

    nk (e4e6b8)

  80. And I was not only talking about the 10% of the story (and I mean Hansel and Gretel) that was the plain fact that she won the primary by seven points. I was talking about the 90% per cent filler that was propaganda.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  81. Pima county Democrat Party with the party’s official motto.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/official-arizona-democrat-account-promotes-f-ck-the-fourth-event

    It’s how they feel about America.

    They appreciate the support.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  82. Probably an O’Keefian plant’s handiwork and if it was repurposed for May 4, he’d be lauded as a genius.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  83. The Jan. 6 committee charade by Byron York

    Horatio (942e2e)

  84. Well, you know, Phoenix and Tempe were founded (and named) by a Confederate and a Britisher. But that’s in Maricopa and Yavapai, I didn’t know they had spread to Pima.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  85. Good piece by Mr. O’Brien. Maybe Russia was a “great power” back in history but, Kissinger’s and Mearsheimer’s notions aside, they’re just a sh-thole country with a sh-t-ton of nukes. Nothing “great” about ’em.

    Russian strength has shown itself to be so overrated that it gives us an opportunity to rethink what makes a power “great.” Going into the war, Russia’s military capabilities–including a large nuclear stockpile and what was thought to be one of the biggest and most-advanced armed forces in the world–were pointed to as the reason for its strength. What this war might be showing us, however, is that a military is only as strong as the society, economy, and political structure that assembled it. In this case, Russia was nowhere near a great power, but in fact a deeply flawed, in many ways weakening, state.

    From this point of view, indeed, it can be seen as a power in relatively steep decline. Its economy is about the tenth largest in the world, comparable to Brazil’s, but even that masks how remarkably unproductive it is, basing most of its wealth on extracting and selling natural resources, rather than on producing anything advanced. When it comes to technology and innovation, Russia would hardly rank in the top 50 most important countries in the world.

    Moreover, the Russian leadership, and most obviously its president—hailed in many quarters as a canny operator—has shown itself to be the head of a disastrously constructed state that fed misperceptions, stifled real debate, and allowed one man to launch this disaster. It’s odd that this is a lesson that we need to learn again and again: Dictatorial regimes tend to decompose the longer they stay in power, because appealing to the source of power becomes a higher priority to officials in all echelons of the state than simply doing a good job. Putin’s state fed his delusions and created an inefficient military, hobbled by corruption and inefficiency.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  86. Bass would finish the demolition job Garcetti started. Sounds appropriate to me.

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  87. How many people like her was she competing against, and how many people like him was was Caruso competing against, and how will it be when it’s one-on-one with nobody else to siphon off either one’s votes?

    nk (e4e6b8) — 7/2/2022 @ 6:14 am

    Technically it was a non-partisan race, so there wasn’t any partisan identification. There were 12 candidates on the ballot, some which had withdrawn prior to voting and endorsed either Bass or Caruso. Both Bass and Caruso are registered Democrats. Who knows how the general election will turn out, but LA is pretty liberal if you look at the down ballot results (go to the article link in my original post).
    Source

    This of course has nothing to do with your statement “ ……. I read (the LA Times) but I don’t believe them and neither should anybody else.”

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  88. 42… you must be joking. You really must be joking.

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  89. Justice Alito doesn’t live in N.J. anymore, so stop sending threatening mail to his old home, cops say
    The police department in West Caldwell is urging people to stop sending harassing packages to the former home of Samuel A. Alito Jr. in town, saying the current homeowner has nothing to do with the U.S. Supreme Court justice……. He grew up in Hamilton outside Trenton and raised his family in West Caldwell, but moved from the Garden State in 2007 after he was confirmed to the high court.
    ………
    “Erroneous information was circulating on the internet that indicated that Justice Alito still resides in West Caldwell, and individuals have been sending harassing packages to the current resident,” the department said in a statement.

    Police said they have responded to multiple calls at the house and said the current homeowner has no affiliation with Justice Alito and “deserves to live in peace in their home free from harassment, regardless of anyone’s political beliefs.”
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  90. Lie as litmus test: Arizona governor candidate Kari Lake calls it ‘disqualifying’ for rival not to declare 2020 election ‘stolen’
    ……….
    Lake said at a televised Republican debate on Wednesday that she would not have certified Joe Biden’s victory in Arizona, which was certified by term-limited Republican Gov. Doug Ducey as required by law. Lake, who has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump, falsely said of Biden: “He lost the election, and he shouldn’t be in the White House.”
    ………
    Lake, a former news anchor at a local Fox station, repeatedly and falsely claimed at the Wednesday debate that the 2020 election was “stolen” and “corrupt.”

    As supposed proof, Lake cited a “forensic audit.” A shambolic Republican-initiated partisan review, described by supporters as an audit but marred by problems, confirmed that Biden beat Trump in Arizona’s most populous county.

    ……… Lake falsely said that 34,000 Arizona ballots “were counted two, three and four times,” though this simply did not happen. (It wasn’t clear if Lake was referring to a long-circulating false claim about duplicate images of ballot envelopes, which have an entirely benign explanation, or talking about something else.)

    Lake asked the three other candidates on stage to raise their hands if they agreed that the election was corrupt and stolen. When her top competitor, developer Karrin Taylor Robson, was the only one not to do so — Robson said she wouldn’t participate in Lake’s “stunt” — Lake’s Twitter account called Robson’s refusal “disqualifying.” Lake’s account posted video of the exchange again on Friday, this time calling Robson’s refusal “sickening.”

    Lake’s campaign declined to make a substantive comment for this article.…….
    ……..
    Robson, though, has also disputed its legitimacy. She said at the debate: “I believe our election was absolutely not fair.”

    Robson cited supposed media suppression of news damaging to Biden and supposed anti-conservative bias by “big tech,” “liberal judges” having permitted the imposition of new policies shortly before the election (which was held during the Covid-19 pandemic), and Meta chief executive Mark Zuckerberg having donated a total of hundreds of millions of dollars to local elections offices around the country.

    Robson did not answer directly when asked if she would have certified Arizona’s 2020 results as governor, saying she “was not privy” to the information Ducey had at the time. She was the only candidate at the debate to unequivocally say she would accept the outcome of this primary.
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  91. 12-Year-Old Incest Victims Should Birth Dad’s Child, (Mississippi) House Speaker Gunn Says
    Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn says abortion should be illegal even for a 12-year-old rape victim carrying her father or uncle’s child. He made the remark to reporters in the hours after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, allowing state abortion bans to take effect.

    “What about the case of a 12-year-old girl who was molested by her father or uncle?” Associated Press reporter Emily Wagster Pettus asked the Republican speaker on the Mississippi House floor on Friday, June 24.

    Gunn said he did not know “what the Legislature’s appetite” would be for ensuring child rape and incest victims could obtain abortions. ……..

    “No, (the law) does not include an exception for incest,” Gunn said. “I don’t know that that will be changed.”

    “Do you think the Legislature should revisit that?” Pettus asked.

    “Personally, no. I do not,” Gunn said. “I believe life begins at conception. Every life is valuable. And those are my personal beliefs.”

    Daily Journal reporter Taylor Vance pressed Gunn further.

    “So that 12-year-old child molested by her family members should carry that pregnancy to term?” he asked.

    “That is my personal belief. I believe life begins at conception,” Gunn said.
    ………
    On Monday, Attorney General Lynn Fitch certified the 2007 trigger law, which would “prohibit abortions in the state of Mississippi” at any stage “except in cases where necessary for the preservation of the mother’s life or where the pregnancy was caused by rape” and that rape was reported to law enforcement. The clinic filed a state lawsuit to block the trigger law, but if they do not succeed, it will become effective on July 7.

    Some Mississippi Republicans are already considering eliminating the pre-15 weeks rape exceptions entirely, however; the trigger law’s sponsor, Sen. Joey Fillingane, R-Sumrall, told the Mississippi Free Press in May that he would like to repeal exceptions for rape, leaving abortion as an option only in cases where a pregnant person’s life is in danger.
    ……….
    As he talked about a new “pro-life” agenda after the Dobbs ruling on June 24, Gunn said he “expects the churches to step up” to help pregnant women, but reiterated that he opposes expanding Medicaid or extending postpartum coverage.

    “Y’all know my position on that, y’all know my position has long been that that is not a way to provide those services,” he said.
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  92. Official Arizona Democrat account promotes ‘F*ck the Fourth’ event

    Horatio (942e2e) — 7/2/2022 @ 6:35 am

    Man, and I only posted this to AJ just yesterday:

    Your lefty boos, on the other hand, will only be celebrating the 4th of July this weekend because it’s their side that’s in charge right now, and for quite a few, that’s not even good enough to celebrate it, because they just took a bunch of Ls in the political and culture wars these past few weeks, or because the country isn’t the white male-oppressing marxist utopia that they want it to be.

    Thanks for confirming why you people such a bunch of entitled marxist children, leftists! Meanwhile, I’ll be eating some breakfast sausage, some strawberries, and thanking God that I live in the United States and not anywhere else.

    Don’t like it here? That’s fine, we don’t like you here, either. Take AJ’s advice in the previous thread, and MOVE to Canada or France like you ALWAYS threaten to do when things don’t go your way for a brief, solitary moment. Thanks!

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  93. the folks who told us trump was so bad he couldn’t beat demented joe

    He didn’t.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  94. @82: It always amazes me that people who hate America so much never leave.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  95. They should do this kind of survey for top economists.
    Asimov did pretty well among the futurists, and Heinlein was terrible. I hope there are more seasons of Foundation.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  96. Will people starve because of Putin’s brutal attack on Ukraine? Possibly:

    The blood on Putin’s hands is not only from Ukraine and Russia, but from countries around the world that rely on imports for their food security. The consequences of Putin’s war will play out in regions already experiencing acute food insecurity and in food-importing countries that are most vulnerable to supply shocks and price increases.

    Buried in today’s headlines, an underreported reality is that global food insecurity is already at a 10-year high. Prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the follow-on effects of the pandemic—lost jobs and wages, supply chain disruptions, food price volatility—pushed the number of food-insecure people to record levels. This spike in food insecurity happened despite ample global food stocks and record-low fuel prices. Russia’s invasion has put global stocks of grains and oilseeds into question and caused energy prices to soar, throwing fuel onto the fire and risking pushing food insecurity skyward.

    Sadly, it looks as if what Caitlin Welsh said could happen in February, is beginning to happen, and is being worsened by Putin’s deliberate tactics.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  97. Bass would finish the demolition job Garcetti started. Sounds appropriate to me.

    How bad does it have to get before Californians will get rid of these leeches?

    Recently I was at a convention in Texas that attracted a lot of people from California. About half of them had no idea that gas prices were lower elsewhere. When I humbly suggested that maybe they wanted to vote for other people — that if they kept voting as they were, they’d keep getting what they got — I got blank stares.

    “But who else is there?”, one asked. Which is a fair point since the GOP in California campaigns like a third party, taking fringe positions and preaching to the choir.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  98. @92

    There’s an idea for an O’Keefe operation. Flood the internet with false doxxing. Get them protesting in front of the wrong houses, sending their threats to the wrong email addresses, and their nastygrams to the wrong addresses. Be creative and have their targets be people who can push back. FBI agents, for example.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  99. This of course has nothing to do with your statement “ ……. I read (the LA Times) but I don’t believe them and neither should anybody else.”

    If you bothered to read the walls of text you indiscriminately cut and paste, you might — just might, maybe, I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt — see how it does.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  100. Asimov did pretty well among the futurists, and Heinlein was terrible. I hope there are more seasons of Foundation.

    Well, I hope that they read enough of the published literature to make these claims, but it’s really not obvious with Heinlein — didn’t even list anything which tells me he didn’t look at much. A lot of people viscerally hate Heinlein, and others are intentionally exposed to his few stinkers (e.g. Farnham’s Freehold which was what an SF course in college had on its syllabus).

    Heinlein’s suggestion that the Crazy Years would start near the end of the 20th Century was spot on. His suggestion that they would have ended by now is not. He called it on the Religious Right, although they have not yet gotten the dictatorship he suggested (pretty much the “handmaiden” type). And he only slightly missed with H.H Harriman and the moon, considering Elon Musk and Mars.

    And “Foundation” is only very loosely based on the books, which admittedly are very dated now.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  101. 42 years ago today, Airplane! premiered, a singular film that will never get an honest remake, at least not until after FWO’s successful civil war.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  102. Alito, Jersey…makes a lot of sense, but why not the same “pressure” on Kavanaugh and Roberts for Biden v. Texas?

    urbanleftbehind (8a2a23)

  103. “But who else is there?”, one asked. Which is a fair point since the GOP in California campaigns like a third party, taking fringe positions and preaching to the choir.

    On second thought, it might also be that the media in California doesn’t actually report much on GOP candidates except 1) when they do something stupid, or 2) wait, there is no 2).

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  104. 106… Yes, there is a number 2: when Democrats do something incredibly stupid (I’ve lost count in my tracking) and the Republicans pounce.

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  105. @104. 42 years ago today, Airplane! premiered, a singular film that will never get an honest remake, at least not until after FWO’s successful civil war.

    Never?

    You do realize that Airplane! is a parody/remake itself: of the film, Zero Hour!

    DCSCA (0af496)

  106. “From now on, we will trust neither the Americans nor the EU,” Lavrov said

    Just like we didn’t trust the Russians when they claimed to have no intention of invading Ukraine when they were obviously moving military assets to the border.

    a new Iron Curtain that was “being erected by Westerners themselves.”

    Does that “curtain” mean the international law that discourages a big country from swallowing up as much of its neighbors as it wants to? Russian leaders have made it clear that they see imperial expansion as Russia’s birthright. Putin asserted that Russia’s border “doesn’t end anywhere.”

    Only a dolt or a person of bad faith (and often it’s the same person) could say that Putin is responding to legitimate security concerns or “threats to Russian civilization,” or that the U.S. goaded him into war, or that the U.S. is waging a “proxy war on Russia,” or that Russia really wanted to be our friend but the U.S. made it impossible (as MTG said).

    Will people starve because of Putin’s brutal attack on Ukraine? … worsened by Putin’s deliberate tactics.

    Putin and his lackeys have been rather open about seeing famine as a useful weapon. They’re proud heirs of the regime that caused the Holodomor, after all.

    Radegunda (92eb05)

  107. @104, Surely you can’t be serious! Yes, I still smile widely thinking about one of my all-time favorite comedies. After reading a string of DCSCA comments, I can’t help thinking to myself, looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  108. You do realize that Airplane! is a parody/remake itself: of the film, Zero Hour!

    I’ve saw an hour of Zero Hour and changed channels. It should be as forgotten as Airplane! should be remembered.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  109. @98. Heinlein was terrible.

    Except he wasn’t. ‘Destination Moon‘- is an amazingly prescient film released in 1950, based on a novel by Heinlein, who also contributed to the screenplay. And in a 1969 piece in trade pub ‘Variety,’ director George Pal marveled at how closely his fiction became reality.

    “Got a prayer in your pocket?” – Jim Barnes [John Archer] ‘Destination Moon’ 1950

    DCSCA (0af496)

  110. Looks like I picked the wrong week to read DC’s comments.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  111. Airplane outdated itself. Its wisecracks became cliches; the “senile” reference to Reagan became politically incorrect within the first decade; and who and what is going to take the place of June Cleaver talking jive?

    nk (e4e6b8)

  112. From the indispensable Julia Davis:

    Meanwhile on Russian state TV: State Duma member Evgeny Popov, who is also the host of the state TV show 60 Minutes, says that Scotland, seeking to hold a referendum on Scottish independence, “should reach out to Russian hackers for help —after all, they helped to elect Trump.”

    Radegunda (92eb05)

  113. It should be as forgotten as Airplane! should be remembered.

    Dana Andrews is always good. Which doesn’t change the remake/parody aspect. But if you wanna go there, Mel cratered w/ Spaceballs t’was a weak Star Wars parody.

    DCSCA (0af496)

  114. I’ve never even heard of Zero Hour. What I saw in Airplane was Marx Bros and Mel Brooks.

    nk (e4e6b8)

  115. @110. Yes, I still smile widely thinking about one of my all-time favorite comedies.

    … said Larry Storch.

    DCSCA (0af496)

  116. Trumpite natcons took the view that Putin’s support of Brexit (and of Trump) was rooted in a deep commitment to national sovereignty and cultural integrity, against globalist liberal imperialism. What a joke.

    Radegunda (92eb05)

  117. RIP Hershel Williams (98). The last surviving Medal of Honor recipient from WWII.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  118. @117. Google it. Zero Hour! was pre ‘Airplane!’ and done seriously. It’s like watching the dead serious M-Squad, Naked City, Felony Squad, N.Y.P.D. TV shows– then the parody, Police Squad.

    DCSCA (0af496)

  119. And the most popular futuristic writer, in the United States and in Russia, is still St. John the Divine and his Revelation.

    nk (6521f6)

  120. Radegunda (92eb05) — 7/2/2022 @ 9:35 am

    I wish I could find the link, Rad, but Russians are making the same disingenuous entreaties with Texas.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  121. Here’s a question for the ladies: Has Trump attracted more “creeps”, as we used to call them, or “sex pests”, which seems more common now, to the Republican Party? Or are they just getting more coverage now?

    Or is this just part of a general breakdown in male behavior in the US?

    (When “Buz” Lukens was defeated in a primary in 1990 by John Boehner, I couldn’t help thinking that his misbehavior seemed more typical of Democrats than Republicans.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  122. Requiescat in Infernum Sonny Barger (83). Founder of Hell’s Angels criminal organization.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  123. @121, pfffft, DCSCA have you ever seen a grown man naked?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  124. Arthur C. Clarke remains tops in my book with his writings. From geostationary satellites to 2001 [aka The Sentinel] and RAMA musings. His epilogue, ‘Beyond Apollo’ to the 1970 book, ‘First Men On The Moon’ is amazingly accurate for 50-plus year old prognosticating. His vision of LEO ops blossoming as private enterprise developed while BEO ops presses on w/government projects due to the largess and financing involved; joint ventures and so forth is more or less what is emerging now. Though the vigor is less energized than in the time of his writing. But he was definitely in the ball park.

    DCSCA (0af496)

  125. @126. Describe one for us, AJ. 😉

    DCSCA (0af496)

  126. 42 years ago today, Airplane! premiered, a singular film that will never get an honest remake, at least not until after FWO’s successful civil war.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 9:06 am

    Paul thinks any strong language against leftists is civil war.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  127. Airplane outdated itself.

    The Howard Jarvis cameo in the film pretty much does that at the start.

    DCSCA (0af496)

  128. (Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo. Insurrectionist) says she is ‘tired’ of separation between church and state: ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’
    …….
    In a Sunday speech at the Cornerstone Christian Center in Basalt, Colo., ahead of her primary election on Tuesday, Boebert argued that “the government is not supposed to direct the church,” saying that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended.

    “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience.
    ………
    “The reason we had so many overreaching regulations is because the church complied,” she said. “The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church. That is not how our Founding Fathers intended it.”
    #########

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  129. RIP Hershel Williams (98). The last surviving Medal of Honor recipient from WWII.

    Yes, I read the obit. He claimed to not remember his heroics, which involved Iwo Jima, a flamethrower, and 7 Japanese-held pillboxes.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  130. Memory fades even for heroes.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  131. At least Boebert still uses the term “Founding Fathers.” That’s a point in her favor.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  132. Memory fades even for heroes.

    He said that he never did remember, and he thought that maybe he chose not to. I think I’d choose not to, as well.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  133. Paul thinks any strong language against leftists is civil war.

    My stock answer is that mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  134. The citation:

    For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as demolition sergeant serving with the 21st Marines, 3d Marine Division, in action against enemy Japanese forces on Iwo Jima, Volcano Islands, 23 February 1945. Quick to volunteer his services when our tanks were maneuvering vainly to open a lane for the infantry through the network of reinforced concrete pillboxes, buried mines, and black volcanic sands, Cpl. Williams daringly went forward alone to attempt the reduction of devastating machinegun fire from the unyielding positions. Covered only by 4 riflemen, he fought desperately for 4 hours under terrific enemy small-arms fire and repeatedly returned to his own lines to prepare demolition charges and obtain serviced flamethrowers, struggling back, frequently to the rear of hostile emplacements, to wipe out 1 position after another. On 1 occasion, he daringly mounted a pillbox to insert the nozzle of his flamethrower through the air vent, killing the occupants and silencing the gun; on another he grimly charged enemy riflemen who attempted to stop him with bayonets and destroyed them with a burst of flame from his weapon. His unyielding determination and extraordinary heroism in the face of ruthless enemy resistance were directly instrumental in neutralizing one of the most fanatically defended Japanese strong points encountered by his regiment and aided vitally in enabling his company to reach its objective.

    Cpl. Williams’ aggressive fighting spirit and valiant devotion to duty throughout this fiercely contested action sustain and enhance the highest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  135. @95, conservative’s claims of patriotism and love for our traditions stopped sounding sincere when they rallied behind a man that tried to steel the presidency by encouraging an armed mob of his support to attack the capital to halt the peaceful transfer of power.

    Time123 (0f8b03)

  136. So, if Trump *does* announce his intention to run, what do Republicans do?

    * sign on to the inevitable

    * find a single alternative compromise champion (as the Dems did with Biden)

    * form a new center-right party

    * quit politics and buy bitcoin.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  137. My stock answer is that mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 10:37 am

    So are strawmen about wanting civil war.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  138. @138: The people who showed up on Jan 6th aren’t actually conservatives. They’re reactionaries; there’s a difference.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  139. @95, conservative’s claims of patriotism and love for our traditions stopped sounding sincere when they rallied behind a man that tried to steel the presidency by encouraging an armed mob of his support to attack the capital to halt the peaceful transfer of power.

    Time123 (0f8b03) — 7/2/2022 @ 10:44 am

    Conservatives still love the country and will celebrate the 4th even though it’s currently run by a pudding-brained moron and its cultural institutions hate their guts. Leftists are only patriotic when their side is in charge, and as the Tucson Democrats show, that’s not even good enough because they’ve taken a few recent Ls. They hate the country so much they drag it in academia–Ground Zero for left-wing philosophical vectoring–and even in secondary schools constantly as a systemically racist, oppressive hellhole, and threaten to leave it every time they don’t get their way.

    My point stands.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  140. A great tune, I think…

    https://youtu.be/ZgIebIQLiiQ

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  141. More from Boebert:

    ……..
    Boebert, of Silt, spoke to the church crowd for more than an hour, calling its members saints and telling them she was called to politics by Jesus. She also said that former President Donald Trump was “anointed” to the highest elected office in the country, where he appointed three conservative Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn Roe v Wade.

    “This is the second day that we woke up in a post-Roe nation. Glory to God,” Boebert said. “This is the fruit of your labor, of your votes and your prayers. This is your harvest.”

    But the work isn’t over, she told the crowd. More must be done to end access to abortion in other states.
    ………
    Ben Stout, a spokesman for Boebert, said the congresswoman stands by her comments.

    “She supports that our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and those should be implemented on government,” Stout said. “She believes the church has a role to play.”

    Boebert does not, Stout said, support a theocracy.
    ………..
    “I believe that there have been two nations that have been created to glorify God. Israel, whom we bless, and the United States of America,” she said. “And this nation will glorify God.”

    It’s hard to reconcile a belief that “the church should direct the government” and deny that you support a theocracy.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  142. 138… what horsesh*t ! Democrats are the Perennial Sorest of Losers.

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  143. I see that Pete Arredondo has resigned from the Uvalde City Council:

    Pete Arredondo, the law enforcement official state police said was most responsible for a flawed response to the Uvalde elementary school shooting in May, has resigned from the Uvalde City Council

    “After much consideration, I regret to inform those who voted for me that I have decided to step down as a member of the city council for District 3. The mayor, the city council, and the city staff must continue to move forward without distractions. I feel this is the best decision for Uvalde,” Arredondo told the newspaper.

    Dana (1225fc)

  144. Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 7/2/2022 @ 10:44 am

    Find someone else to get behind. Trump would just end up losing again, and he’d be 78 years old even if he did have a real shot at winning.

    DeSantis is the best shot they have right now to actually winning 2024 that Trump and NeverTrump can both get behind. I’d vote for Pence, too, because he can effectively push Trumpism while not being Trump (he’d destroy Biden in the debates the way he obliterated Kaine and Harris), and his open, unapologetic Christianity drives the left absolutely bonkers, but even if he and Trump weren’t on the outs, he doesn’t really get GOP voters excited.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  145. Basically, the GOP’s Gen-X politicians need to start asserting themselves and show that they can run the country for the next couple of election cycles until they’re finally swamped by the Millennials. And the Boomers need to realize that they can’t stay in control forever trying to keep things together. Not passing the torch is crippling the very people who are going to be responsible for taking their place after they are gone, and if the country falls apart that quick on their watch, then there was nothing that staying an extra 4 years in office was going to change, anyway.

    A big reason Biden is in office is because Obama crippled the party’s bench to serve his own political ends, and they had no one else the party base was willing to rally behind other than a Brooklyn-born Vermont socialist. The GOP would be making the same mistake nominating Trump again. He had his time, and he had another chance, but lost. Going back to retreads isn’t going to move the party forward.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  146. DeSantis is the best shot they have right now to actually winning 2024 that Trump and NeverTrump can both get behind.

    While it’s true that DeSantis is the Republican’s best shot at a win, I don’t believe the bolded part is true because of his unnecessary fights with Disney, extreme abortion laws (no exceptions for women who become pregnant as a result of rape, incest or human trafficking), his Covid response, etc.

    Dana (1225fc)

  147. Men rush to get vasectomies after Roe ruling
    ……..
    ……. Urologists told The Washington Post that they have seen a spike in requests for the procedure in response to the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

    (Doug Stein, a Florida urologist known as the “Vasectomy King”) said that before Friday, he received four or five vasectomy requests a day. Since the court’s decision was announced, that number has spiked to 12 to 18 requests per day.

    “It was very, very noticeable Friday, and then the number that came in over the weekend was huge and the number that is still coming in far exceeds what we have experienced in the past,” Stein told The Post. “Many of the guys are saying that they have been thinking about a vasectomy for a while, and the Roe v. Wade decision was just that final factor that tipped them over the edge and made them submit the online registration.”
    ………
    Stein said his practice is booked through the end of August with vasectomy appointments, prompting him to open up more days in his schedule to accommodate patients who have recently registered. He and his associate, John Curington, said the decision overturning Roe has directly factored into their patients’ requests for vasectomies. Men under the age of 30 who do not have children are requesting vasectomies in greater numbers than before, the physicians said.

    “I’d say at least 60 or 70 percent are mentioning the Supreme Court decision,” Curington said. “And a few of them have such sophistication as young men that they actually are thinking about Justice Thomas and his opinion that contraception may fall next. And that’s shocking. That’s something that doesn’t enter into our conversations ever, until this week.”
    ……..
    Philip Werthman, a Los Angeles urologist, also reported a “300 to 400 percent” increase in the number of vasectomy consultations he has performed. Esgar Guarín, an Iowa-based urologist who trained under Stein and specializes in vasectomies, said he has seen a “200 to 250 percent” increase in traffic on his website offering information specifically about vasectomies.

    Marc Goldstein, a urologist and director of the Center for Male Reproductive Medicine and Microsurgery at Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York, said he usually sees twice as many patients per week for vasectomy reversals compared to vasectomies.

    “Now it’s the other way around,” he said. “So it’s been a dramatic shift. And this [decision] is only going to further impact that in terms of increasing requests.”

    It isn’t the first time a significant news event has caused an uptick in vasectomies.……
    ……….

    Snip snip!

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  148. While it’s true that DeSantis is the Republican’s best shot at a win, I don’t believe the bolded part is true because of his unnecessary fights with Disney, extreme abortion laws (no exceptions for women who become pregnant as a result of rape, incest or human trafficking), his Covid response, etc.

    Dana (1225fc) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:09 am

    If that’s actually the case, NeverTrump might as well just sit this next one out, then, too. Because none of the candidates they’ll put forth are going to get the base on board.

    This is the reality that I keep pointing out, and none of the NeverTrumpers here except for Kevin really want to come to terms with–a GOP candidate that won’t fight the culture war may as well not even bother, and with NeverTrump being driven by people who are absolutely terrified to fight the culture war, they’re going to be stuck making a protest choice for a loooong time.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  149. Rip Murdock (7a050e) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:18 am

    Good. There’s no real reason for a man to keep his plumbing intact if he doesn’t want to actually have kids, and is too lazy or selfish to put a condom on. Figure out if you really want to have kids, and if not, go get it done. The $200-8,000 it will cost (depending on location) to get the procedure done is a lot cheaper than the $300K you’ll need to come up with to raise a kid.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  150. So are strawmen about wanting civil war.

    You’re the one who advocated for a “national divorce”–channeling the nutjob from GA–a cute euphemism for civil war.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  151. Election denier and indicted clerk Tina Peters loses Colorado GOP primary to former Jefferson County clerk Pam Anderson
    Former Jefferson County Clerk and Recorder Pam Anderson defeated election denier and indicted Mesa County clerk Tina Peters in the GOP primary for Colorado secretary of state on Tuesday night.
    ………
    Anderson received 43.7% of the vote to Peters’ 27.2%, and Mike O’Donnell, director of a nonprofit lender, got 29.1%, according to unofficial results as of 9:45 p.m.

    Anderson will face incumbent Secretary of State Jena Griswold, a Democrat, in the November election.

    Election experts and people across the country have been following this race after Peters was accused of making images of voting system software. The passwords were later posted online by a QAnon conspiracy theory leader.
    ……….
    The Mesa clerk and her deputy Belinda Knisley were also indicted by a grand jury in March in an election tampering investigation. Additionally, the clerk is facing multiple other investigations over allegations of violation of campaign finance laws, among other issues.
    ……..
    At her election watch party Tuesday night in Sedalia, Peters spoke to supporters and said: “This is not over.”

    Peters and her campaign baselessly claimed that the results of the election were “flipped” and fraudulent, saying GOP polling results they had seen prior to the election showed Peters in the lead.

    “I’m sorry we had faith in the system once again,” Peters said.
    #########

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  152. You’re the one who advocated for a “national divorce”–channeling the nutjob from GA–a cute euphemism for civil war.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:29 am

    What happened to “mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice,” Paul? You only think I want civil war because it makes you feel better about yourself, not because that’s the reality.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  153. Dana (1225fc) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:09 am

    Dana is 100% correct

    nevertrump isn’t about opposing trump

    they’re about opposing republicans

    JF (d5b670)

  154. About half say Trump should be charged for 1/6: AP-NORC poll
    ………
    The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds that 48% of U.S. adults say the Republican former president should be charged with a crime for his role, while 31% say he should not be charged. An additional 20% say they don’t know enough to have an opinion. Fifty-eight percent say Trump bears a great deal or quite a bit of responsibility for what happened that day.

    The poll was conducted after five public hearings by the House committee investigating Jan. 6…… But it was taken before Tuesday’s surprise hearing featuring former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson. …..

    Views on Trump’s criminal liability break down predictably along party lines, with 86% of Democrats but only 10% of Republicans saying Trump should be charged with a crime. Among Republicans, 68% say he should not be charged and 21% say they don’t know. Still, the fact that nearly half the country believes he should be prosecuted is a remarkable position for the former president, pointing to the difficulties he could face if he makes another run at the White House in 2024.
    ………
    ……… While views of Trump’s role have not changed since December, Americans are somewhat more likely now than they were then to say Republicans in Congress were significantly responsible for the events of Jan. 6.

    Forty-six percent say that now, up slightly from 41% in December. An additional 21% say GOP lawmakers had some responsibility and 30% say they were not responsible. The change in the share saying Republicans in Congress have a large amount of responsibility was driven mostly by Democrats and independents.
    ……..
    Close to 6 in 10 Americans — 56% — say they followed news about the congressional hearings. A smaller but still sizeable share — 42% — say they watched or listened.
    ………

    Toplines.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  155. “national divorce”

    Hard to pin him down….not sure if he wants the GOP candidate to engage the cultural battlefield with asset “by any means necessary” or whether demonstrating a simple seething hatred of liberalism is sufficient

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  156. Corrected link for post 157 toplines.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  157. Dana is 100% correct

    nevertrump isn’t about opposing trump

    they’re about opposing republicans

    Speaking for myself (and I’m guessing for any number of the NeverTrump who remain in the party), you’re wrong.

    Dana (1225fc)

  158. Mr. Matveev has has a couple of tweet threads (here and here) on the tactics of the Russian fascist invaders and the Ukrainian freedom fighters. It’s worth hitting the “translate” button all the way through.
    After Kyiv and Kharkiv, Putin is left with the only tactic that has a chance of success: Concentrate forces and attack one small area after the next by bombing it to smithereens with artillery, and it’s a tactic stemming from weakness.
    The Ukrainian defenses have to stay mobile and counter-attack where they can, but they don’t have the materiel to take out the Putin’s weapons, and it’s why getting a quantity of MLRS and other rockets and artillery is so important. Some excerpts…

    63. Let’s get to the fun part. How can Ukraine resist Putin’s offensive? Are there any chances and what do I see them in? And also why I stand firm in my opinion – Putin’s Russia has already lost the war.

    64. The Ukrainian army can hit the strong side of the growing army – artillery. And try to reduce the Russian advantage here. For this, long-range howitzers Pzh 2000 and Cesar are needed. As well as the American HIMARS. To get the rose long-range guns

    65. But it is a long and difficult task to fight against growing artillery, because there is stupidly a lot of it. And Western supplies are few. It will take several months to achieve parity. There is another way. You can hit in a weak spot – so that the army grows, it cannot use its advantage 100%

    66. Namely, in terms of logistics. Taking out ammunition depots. What the Ukrainian artillery is already doing quite successfully. Recently, I have heard about 4 or 5 powerful explosions of Putin’s army depots on the Zaporozhye front and in the Donbass.

    67. Another weak point of Putin’s army is personnel, infantry. By destroying soldiers, especially experienced ones, you can bleed the army so much that it will not be able to advance anywhere. And in the future, even defend. Without cover, artillery, and especially its communications, will be at risk.

    68. In many ways, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now engaged in this, drawing the growing army into the struggle for Kherson. I already wrote that the offensive here is the most promising. Yes, the Ukrainians were not able to gather a lot of forces, so the offensive is local. But it is still useful, as it distracts the growing army from the Donbass.

    69. Additional forces have to be transferred to Kherson, reducing reserves on the Eastern Front. But besides this, a purposeful struggle is also needed with Putin’s infantry units. Such as the attack on the barracks of PMC Wagner in Kadievka

    70. In addition, the Ukrainian army needs to break Russian tactics. Since Putin’s units do not want a maneuver war, it must be imposed. All in the same place near Kherson or on the Zaporozhye front, which are clearly secondary for Putin’s army.

    71. It is clear that all this is very difficult and even a little like a dream. However, the Ukrainian military is already advancing on Kherson, even with small forces, and they are succeeding. So why should we exclude the possibility of further success? Let’s see.

    72. Putin definitely lost this war. Yes, as long as the offensive continues and my opinion about the turning point was premature. However, let’s look at the overall map again. Movements of 10-20 km in months do not change the picture.

    73. At the same time, Putin’s army is losing personnel. Including experienced mercenaries. And they are replaced by inexperienced volunteers 40+ and, in the future, by schoolchildren. At some point, the inexperience of the personnel will become critical

    74. Everyone agrees that the Ukrainian army is inferior to the Russian one in terms of technology. For artillery dozens of times. But if the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already fighting the growing army on an equal footing, then what will happen when they receive more modern heavy weapons? It seems that the triumphal arch will not be useful to Putin

    The gamechanger is of course getting the Ukrainians the weapons, and the recent NATO summit was helpful at minimum because of all the weapons commitments from its members.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  159. While it’s true that DeSantis is the Republican’s best shot at a win, I don’t believe the bolded part is true because of his unnecessary fights with Disney…

    As a 100% NeverTrumper, Dana, but as of now I would choose DeSantis over Biden and forego Door #3, even though he’s not governing as a traditional conservative. He’s Ivy League trained, and his antics with Disney and such is political posturing, IMO. I don’t like it, but he needs to pander to the Trump base to even have a shot. But it’s a long way off to 2024.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  160. What happened to “mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice,” Paul?

    I quoted you directly, FWO. How do you think a “national divorce” will happen? I can tell you it won’t be peacefully, hence civil war. But go ahead and pretend otherwise.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  161. Hard to pin him down….not sure if he wants the GOP candidate to engage the cultural battlefield with asset “by any means necessary” or whether demonstrating a simple seething hatred of liberalism is sufficient

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:47 am

    That’s because you cringe at any sort of engagement with the left in the culture war that goes beyond soft words. asset’s the only commenter on this board who’s come out saying that actual civil war is going to happen if the radical left doesn’t get its way.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  162. @142 FWO, some conservatives still love this country and our values. But the GOP is currently run by people who place those well below adherence to Trump, their conspiracy theories about a stolen election and a desire to excuse an effort to steal the presidency. What the AZ dem party said is stomach churning. But what Trump did on Jan 6, and the GOP’s defense of it is worse.

    Regarding Other then Trump candidates: An authoritarian government that wants to use state power to impose it’s cultural preference and punish people for exercising individual rights they disagree with is bad. I won’ vote for a candidate that wants to do that. I may pick the lesser evil if there’s a strong reason. But it ends there.

    If you want the cultur at large to more closely align to your preferences do what the left did. Persuade people that your preferences are better. None of what you complain about (e.g. the cathedral stuff) happened because the government forced it on us. Gay rights activists jumped up and down and made a lot of noise about discrimination and people sort of came around to thinking SSM wasn’t a big deal. I’ll add that after it became legal none of the dire predictions came true.

    Time123 (f03529)

  163. I’m interested in opposing policy i disagree with and politician I think are too unethical for office. At the moment the mainstream GOP doesn’t have much to offer me (Rep Mejier has me hopeful for the future though)

    Time123 (f03529)

  164. I quoted you directly, FWO. How do you think a “national divorce” will happen? I can tell you it won’t be peacefully, hence civil war. But go ahead and pretend otherwise.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:07 pm

    Gee, Paul, I don’t know, maybe the left finally does what it’s long promised, and moves to Canada when it doesn’t get its way? Why would that involve violence?

    Noting that a national divorce might actually be desireable in a country that is empirically sorting itself out geographically by political affiliation is an observation on cultural trends. It’s not a call to arms, no matter how badly you wish it was.

    Your contention that I actually want civil war to happen is a flat-out, blatant lie.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  165. The difference between you and me, FWO, is I still believe in the democratic process to resolve differences, and you’re taking the fascist way out. And yes, your “national divorce” would involve civil war. Be in denial all you want, but that’s what you’re advocating.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  166. The difference between Conservative and Reactionary

    When used as nouns, ‘conservative’ means one who opposes changes to the traditional institutions of their country, whereas ‘reactionary’ means one who is opposed to change.

    When used as adjectives, ‘conservative’ means cautious, whereas ‘reactionary’ means politically favoring a return to a supposed golden age of the past.

    https://diffsense.com/diff/conservative/reactionary#:~:text=When%20used%20as%20nouns%2C%20conservativemeans%20one%20who%20opposes,to%20a%20supposed%20golden%20age%20of%20the%20past.

    DCSCA (037d5c)

  167. But the GOP is currently run by people who place those well below adherence to Trump, their conspiracy theories about a stolen election and a desire to excuse an effort to steal the presidency. What the AZ dem party said is stomach churning. But what Trump did on Jan 6, and the GOP’s defense of it is worse.

    What the Arizona Dem Party said is emblematic of how the party’s members actually think of this country. They don’t like it unless they’re in charge, and their always winning. I’d say that’s just as bad as what the goofballs on January 6th did. I just wish they’d actually follow through with their constant threats and leave, instead of foghorning about it as they march through the institutions.

    An authoritarian government that wants to use state power to impose it’s cultural preference and punish people for exercising individual rights they disagree with is bad. I won’ vote for a candidate that wants to do that. I may pick the lesser evil if there’s a strong reason. But it ends there.

    The Dems have already shown their hand here, too. Being a slave to historic determinism, they think their side is always entitled to win, so they’re going to use state power to impose their own cultural preferences and punish people for exercising individual rights they disagree with. That was the whole point, for example, of that fake “whistleblower” of Facebook, who’s main complaint was that Facebook wasn’t censoring wrongthink enough for her taste.

    None of what you complain about (e.g. the cathedral stuff) happened because the government forced it on us. Gay rights activists jumped up and down and made a lot of noise about discrimination and people sort of came around to thinking SSM wasn’t a big deal. I’ll add that after it became legal none of the dire predictions came true.

    Time123 (f03529) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:08 pm

    That’s not exactly true. SSM was actually voted down in California, by popular vote, and only changed because a judge said it was wrong. This wasn’t even 20 years ago. For all the left’s lip service to “democracy,” they don’t actually persuade, they just jawbone until people give them what they want just to shut them up. And now that SSM is legal, they’ve moved on to insisting that everyone go along with a mentally ill fringe that’s thinks they’re a different sex than they were actually born with, alienating teenagers who are already going through the confusion of puberty that if they simply “feel different in their body,” that means they’re transgender, and trying to get little kids on hormone blockers so they don’t go through the natural process of physical development that’s been going on in mammals for millennia.

    So this idea that persuasion should come in to play is fine, but that’s not going to apply to the cultural left, who are mostly marxists and actually believe their side is fated to win (the “right side of history”), even if historic determinism is little more than a religious belief.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  168. “Gee, Paul, I don’t know, maybe the left finally does what it’s long promised, and moves to Canada when it doesn’t get its way? Why would that involve violence?”

    LMAO. Great, good faith answer.

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  169. The difference between you and me, FWO, is I still believe in the democratic process to resolve differences, and you’re taking the fascist way out.

    Another cheap lie. You’ve now claimed that I want civil war, and that I’m a fascist. What will be Lie #3 this fine 4th of July weekend, Paul?

    And yes, your “national divorce” would involve civil war. Be in denial all you want, but that’s what you’re advocating.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:27 pm

    You sound really desperate for this to be true, the way you keep insisting on it.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  170. “Gee, Paul, I don’t know, maybe the left finally does what it’s long promised, and moves to Canada when it doesn’t get its way? Why would that involve violence?”

    LMAO. Great, good faith answer.

    Davethulhu (4335be) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:32 pm

    Oh, your side doesn’t constantly threaten to leave the country and slag on its traditions when it doesn’t get its way? Care to see what the Arizona Dems posted again?

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  171. “Oh, your side doesn’t constantly threaten to leave the country and slag on its traditions when it doesn’t get its way? Care to see what the Arizona Dems posted again?”

    You’re ridiculous.

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  172. That was quick. Get some ice, Cthulhu!

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  173. FWO, remind me how the last attempt at national divorce turned out. Try not to be disingenuous about it, friend.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  174. Speaking for myself (and I’m guessing for any number of the NeverTrump who remain in the party), you’re wrong.
    Dana (1225fc) — 7/2/2022 @ 11:53 am

    ok, so you have some list of demands having nothing to do with Trump that if Republican voters don’t go along with you’re with the Democrats. Do I have it right?

    that’s just a more wordy way to say what I said

    JF (d5b670)

  175. Suggesting that a “national divorce” will be accomplished by all the Democrats moving to Canada is an absurd, unserious answer.

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  176. our best hope are the chinese censors

    Woke Disney shows transgender man offering little girl advice on which tampons to buy in new children’s animated series Baymax!

    A new Disney+ animated kids series Baymax!, features what is believed to be the company’s first transgender character, buying tampons at a supermarket.

    The Big Hero 6 spinoff, which is a series of shorts, features robot nurse Baymax caring for residents in the futuristic, fictional town of San Fransokyo.

    In the controversial episode, Baymax is browsing the menstrual product aisle at a supermarket on behalf of a 12-year-old girl, when he asks his fellow shoppers for help.

    One of those customers is a trans man, wearing a transgender flag shirt, who hands him a box of pads and tells the robot: ‘I always get the ones with wings.’

    JF (d5b670)

  177. While it’s true that DeSantis is the Republican’s best shot at a win, I don’t believe the bolded part is true because of his unnecessary fights with Disney, extreme abortion laws (no exceptions for women who become pregnant as a result of rape, incest or human trafficking), his Covid response, etc.

    My problems with DeSantis are fairly big, but I could vote for him in a way I never could with Trump.

    I disagree on the abortion thing — I’m in the middle 70% which means I want elective abortion limited to some portion of the 1st trimester (similarly for rape and incest) and available alter as circumstances warrant. Pretty sure any legislative rule in Europe would work for me. I note that the EU does not require abortion on demand.

    The Disney thing seemed sophomoric, but it was effective. I’m sure they’ll quietly retreat on the actual district thing as it hurts the neighbors more than Disney. But DeSantis got the mule’s attention.

    His Covid response put freedom before security. Hard to say that’s wrong. I very much doubt there will be another lockdown in my lifetime, short of weaponized smallpox.

    Pence I cannot support. His Christianity is sincere, but I don’t want the country to be run by a religious belief. See The Stone Pillow

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  178. Men rush to get vasectomies after Roe ruling

    And the Gene Pool smiled.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  179. “our best hope are the chinese censors”

    If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  180. Timothy Snyder, on Putin’s Hunger Plan…

    The horror of Putin’s hunger plan is so great that we have a hard time apprehending it. We also tend to forget how central food is to politics. Some historical examples can help. 4/16

    The idea that controlling Ukrainian grain can change the world is not new. Both Stalin and Hitler wished to do so. 5/16

    For Stalin, Ukraine’s black earth was to be exploited to build an industrial economy for the USSR. In fact, collectivized agriculture killed about four million Ukrainians. 6/16

    Notably, as people began to die in large numbers, Stalin blamed the Ukrainians themselves. Soviet propaganda called those who drew attention to the famine “Nazis.” 7/16

    Actual Nazis had related ideas. They liked the idea of controlling Ukrainian agriculture. This was in fact Hitler’s central war aim. 8/16

    Hitler wished to redirect Ukrainian grain from the Soviet Union to Germany, in the hope of starving millions of Soviet citizens. 9/16

    The Second World War was fought for Ukraine and in considerable measure in Ukraine, between dictators who wanted to control food supplies. 10/16

    Russian memory politics prepared the way for a 21st-century hunger plan. Russians are told that Stalin’s famine was an accident and that Ukrainians are Nazis. This makes theft and blockade seem acceptable. 11/16

    Putin’s hunger plan is, I believe, meant to work on three levels. First, it is part of a larger attempt to destroy the Ukrainian state, by cutting off its exports. 12/16

    Putin’s hunger plan is also meant to generate refugees from North Africa and the Middle East, areas usually fed by Ukraine. This would generate instability in the EU. 13/16

    Finally, and most horribly, a world famine is a necessary backdrop for a Russian propaganda campaign against Ukraine. Actual mass death is needed as the backdrop for a propaganda contest. 14/16

    When the food riots begin, and as starvation spreads, Russian propaganda will blame Ukraine, and call for Russia’s territorial gains in Ukraine to be recognized, and for all sanctions to be lifted. 15/16

    Russia is planning to starve Asians and Africans in order to win its war in Europe. This is a new level of colonialism, and the latest chapter of hunger politics. 16/16

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  181. This is the reality that I keep pointing out, and none of the NeverTrumpers here except for Kevin really want to come to terms with–a GOP candidate that won’t fight the culture war may as well not even bother, and with NeverTrump being driven by people who are absolutely terrified to fight the culture war, they’re going to be stuck making a protest choice for a loooong time.

    I don’t think this is correct, so maybe I haven’t come to terms with it either. I guess it depends on what you mean by “fighting the culture war.” Or what the extent of that war is. You really don’t have to be manning every last barricade to be taking a side in the culture war.

    I don’t believe that a candidate that only thrills the Trump supporters, or is anathema to them can win. Whoever it is will have to be acceptable to both groups — and that is really the only thing that will matter.

    The biggest obstacle in this is Trump, who will trash anyone that gets in his infantile way. If he does, the GOP won’t have the White House while Trump is alive.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  182. The problem between Red and Blue is mostly that both want to control the other.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  183. asset’s the only commenter on this board who’s come out saying that actual civil war is going to happen if the radical left doesn’t get its way.

    Then there’s going to be a LOT fewer radical leftists.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  184. Suggesting that a “national divorce” will be accomplished by all the Democrats moving to Canada is an absurd, unserious answer.

    A better prospect is some intra-state divorces. CA, IL, NY, maybe TX and FL. Reducing the tension is a good idea. There are lots of people in rural CA, upstate NY and downstate IL who really don’t like having the state writing leftist morality in to state law.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  185. I don’t know about anyone else, but I love maps, and here’s a cool rundown of all kinds.
    Of course, you can’t talk about these maps without seeing what fits into Russia, courtesy of Feliks.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  186. 177,

    No, you don’t have it right.

    Dana (f80c96)

  187. *Raises hand*

    Paul Montagu, I love maps!

    Looks like a fun site. Thanks

    Dana (f80c96)

  188. As a 100% NeverTrumper, Dana, but as of now I would choose DeSantis over Biden and forego Door #3, even though he’s not governing as a traditional conservative. He’s Ivy League trained, and his antics with Disney and such is political posturing, IMO. I don’t like it, but he needs to pander to the Trump base to even have a shot. But it’s a long way off to 2024.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:06 pm

    Yes.

    Look, Trump wasn’t even a republican. He was Hillary’s biggest fan and a total creep. I would love to say his supporters had no reason to support him, but umm, the Supreme Court thing is not a minor victory.

    Desantis is doing what Cruz did without looking like an idiot. He’s playing politics. It’s lame but he’s a hell of a lot better than Biden or Kamala or whatever. Frankly the same disease that Trump was on one side is there in abundance on the other side. they can and will challenge democratic outcomes for example.

    Dustin (f01c00)

  189. nevertrump isn’t about opposing trump; they’re about opposing republicans

    Well, these folks certainly claimed the GOP as their tent- though now completely on the outs- irrelevant today, and are more definitively labeled modern ideological conservatives– but decidely Republican in rhetoric and leanings and then vehemently opposed and still opposeed to Trump:

    National Review Urges ‘Say No’ to Trump

    The magazine also includes an editorial, titled “Against Trump,” that concludes: “Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as The Donald himself.”

    22 conservative leaders argued this in that infamous of National Review:

    -Thomas Sowell, economist.
    -Brent Bozell, president of the Media Research Center.
    -Glenn Beck, founder of The Blaze.
    -Edwin Meese and Michael Mukasey, former U.S. attorney generals.
    -Dana Loesch and Michael Medved, syndicated radio hosts.
    -Cal Thomas and Mona Charen, syndicated columnists.
    -William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard.
    -R. R. Reno, editor of First Things.
    -John Podhoretz, editor of Commentary.
    -Yuval Levin, editor of National Affairs.
    -Mark Helprin, novelist.
    -Andrew C. McCarthy, contributing editor, National Review.
    -Erick Erickson, founder of The Resurgent.
    -David McIntosh, president of the Club for Growth.
    -Steven F. Hayward, author and presidential scholar.
    -Ben Domenech, publisher of The Federalist.
    -David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute.
    -Katie Pavlich, editor of Townhall.com editor.
    -Russell Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.

    https://www.newsmax.com/Headline/national-review-no-trump-symposium/2016/01/21/id/710381/

    DCSCA (1b83f3)

  190. 10 reasons National Review doesn’t want Trump in the White House

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/politics/national-review-10-reasons/index.html

    ‘National Review and a group of conservative thought leaders took a strong stand against Donald Trump on Friday.

    ‘In a special issue titled “Against Trump,” the 65-year-old magazine founded by William F. Buckley railed against Trump’s “unmoored” and “opportunistic” populism. The editors published a scathing editorial on the GOP front-runner, while 22 conservative thinkers weighed in on why they think Trump poses a threat to American conservatism…’

    DCSCA (1b83f3)

  191. {Trump] would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as The Donald himself.

    Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

    Matthew 7:6

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  192. @93 2020 election was corrupt ;however it was corrupted by republicans. Trump would have won the 2020 election as he won the 2016 election. For the umpteenth time republican legislatures in their never ending attempts to keep the libertarian party off of the ballot pass draconian laws to keep third parties off the ballot. Libertarian party is big enough to jump thru all the hoopes and get on the ballot anyway green party is not and this allowed democrat party to jick them off the ballot in az, ga, mi, wi. and other states. To say their was not corruption is untrue.

    asset (0ebe5a)

  193. Time123 (0f8b03) — 7/2/2022 @ 10:44 am

    Translation: conservatives are bad people.

    I was really hoping this comment was the beginning of the end of the “I’d vote for an R if they supported all of the leftist and progressive things I’m in favor of” shtick.

    Time123 (f03529) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:08 pm

    Translation: the shtick returns.

    Gosh, the Rs really need to get their act together so that you can vote for them.

    I’ll add that after it became legal none of the dire predictions came true.

    People predicted it wouldn’t stop there. It didn’t stop there.

    People predicted it wouldn’t be enough to tolerate it. Now you’ve got to actively affirm it.

    People predicted we’d see grooming. We’re seeing grooming.

    People predicted we’d see an attempt to normalize pedophilia. We’re seeing an attempt to normalize pedophilia.

    You’re right though. I don’t think we’ve made it to the bestiality phase yet.

    frosty (40b9cc)

  194. Frostyfact

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  195. @185 The red states have no right to control because they are the minority. 8 million more people voted for Biden then trump ;but Biden only won the presidency by 43,000 votes. az. 10,000 ga. 13,000 wi. 20,000. 26 states with 18% of the population control 52 senate seats. Why should the minority be allows to rule the majority? The majority is finally fed up with minority control after the abortion ruling. This is why conservatives are so upset about violence. Corporate establishment stooges like biden, pelosi, schumer and the clintons are losing their grip on the democratic party base with their do nothing response of send us money and vote for us so we can whine some more!

    asset (0ebe5a)

  196. Lotsa abbynormalizing there. And yet some say Republicans are the problem.

    Well, some can stick it right up their willfully lying bottoms.

    Colonel Haiku (412d0b)

  197. @198:

    asset, do you expect violence to change the Constitution? That’s what they tried on Jan 6th and not only didn’t it work, but lots of people went to prison. DO you plan on storming Washington and hanging people? Because there’s lots of marines stationed there, and they might take a dim view.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  198. after it became legal none of the dire predictions came true.

    The day is still young.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  199. The SCOTUS marshal has now asked the governors of Maryland and Virginia to use state police to enforce federal law against demonstrations at justices homes.

    Will they?

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  200. “I don’t know about anyone else, but I love maps”

    I’ve been doing a lot with geography of late and just learned today that there is a navigable path from the Caspian Sea to the Black Sea (I should have figured that the Azerbaijan has to go somewhere). What a life changer! Of course, I also just learned the specifics of how a boat can go from Duluth, MN to the atlantic or down to the Gulf of Mexico. I guess I knew it could but hadn’t thought of the details since grade school. Now I’m starting to wonder what else I’ve been missing! Who has time for these culture wars!?

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  201. You’re ridiculous.

    Davethulhu (4335be) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:44 pm

    Don’t like be reminded of your side’s rejection-obsessed behavior, huh?

    Suggesting that a “national divorce” will be accomplished by all the Democrats moving to Canada is an absurd, unserious answer.

    Davethulhu (4335be) — 7/2/2022 @ 1:04 pm

    Not nearly as absurd as them whining that they’re going to move to Canada every time they lose, or slagging our nation’s independence because they took a few political Ls.

    FWO, remind me how the last attempt at national divorce turned out. Try not to be disingenuous about it, friend.

    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/2/2022 @ 12:56 pm

    Please. Half the country would throw a party and wave farewell if California decided to secede, and the other half would be scrambling to move there in the aftermath.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  202. @117. I’ve never even heard of Zero Hour. What I saw in Airplane was Marx Bros and Mel Brooks.

    ‘Because Zero Hour! was owned at the time by Paramount Pictures, the makers of Airplane!, also a Paramount feature, were able to use the screenplay almost verbatim, including the hero again being named Ted Striker.’ – wikibeta.vhs.whywasteaDVD.dupe.

    DCSCA (a07fad)

  203. Inside the Extreme Effort to Punish Women for Abortion
    ………
    Even as those in the anti-abortion movement celebrate their nation-changing Supreme Court victory, there are divisions over where to go next. The most extreme…….want to pursue what they call “abortion abolition,” a move to criminalize abortion from conception as homicide, and hold women who have the procedure responsible — a position that in some states could make those women eligible for the death penalty. That position is at odds with the anti-abortion mainstream, which opposes criminalizing women and focuses on prosecuting providers.

    Many people who oppose abortion believe that life begins at conception and that abortion is murder. Abolitionists follow that thinking to what they believe is the logical, and uncompromising, conclusion: From the moment of conception, abolitionists want to give the fetus equal protection as a person under the 14th Amendment.
    ……..
    “The future of the anti-abortion movement will be led by those who hold to a consistent and genuinely ‘pro-life’ ethic, which is to say that since life begins at conception and fertilization, the full personhood of an unborn life must entail equal protection under the law that is afforded to all other persons in the U.S. Constitution,” (Tom Ascol, a prominent ultraconservative Southern Baptist pastor) said.

    “All mothers who abort their children are culpable at some level, though not necessarily equally culpable for homicide,” he said.
    ……..
    About one in three American adults believe that, if abortion is illegal, women who have the procedure should serve jail time or pay a fine or do community service, according to a Pew Research Center study conducted in March. Men, white evangelicals and Republicans are among the most likely to believe that a woman should be punished, the study found.

    They reflect an undercurrent of the anti-abortion movement that Donald J. Trump elevated in 2016, when he said that women who receive abortions should receive “some form of punishment” if the procedure were banned in the United States, before bipartisan outrage pushed him to recant.

    Already, some prosecutors have used homicide and child-abuse laws to charge women for things like inducing abortion or experiencing miscarriage; about 1,300 women have faced such charges or arrests since 2006, according to National Advocates for Pregnant Women.

    Ultimately, abolitionists believe they are fighting a holy Christian mission, answerable to the God they worship.

    In their amicus brief (supporting Mississippi in Dobbs), they wrote, “The court is not only bound by the text of the Constitution, but it is also bound by the limits on human civil authority revealed by God.”
    ………

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  204. Dana: “because of his [DeSantis] unnecessary fights with Disney, extreme abortion laws (no exceptions for women who become pregnant as a result of rape, incest or human trafficking), his Covid response, etc.”

    The issue will be how this sells to the voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. A governor can always argue that what was right for his state might not be right for others…..as Romney did with RomneyCare. It’s waaaayyy too early and DeSantis has time to look more Presidential. Right now it’s about getting national name recognition and being considered a serious alternative to Trump…..which he’s clearly done.

    DeSantis is at least qualified, smart, and has time to increase his broader likability. He at least isn’t talking the Big Lie. I hope more throw their hats in the ring, including Haley and Hogan. I don’t want a field of 20 (please!) but a field of 6 should give us some decent choices, perspectives, and personalities. Pence is at the same place Christi was at with me after the Obama Hug. He did well on J6, but feel he was awol otherwise. Cruz’s electoral count mischief and brazen flip-flop on Trump rules him out for me. Super smart, but I just don’t trust him anymore…..

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  205. Given the polling that shows roughly on-third of the public apparently approve the use of political violence, if comes to a “national divorce” it won’t be peaceful. See here , here , and here.

    Rip Murdock (a994d9)

  206. Speaking of California, from the Daily Fail:

    How California’s legal cannabis dream became a public health nightmare: It’s a class B drug in the UK – but in the US state it has led to spiralling addiction, psychotic illnesses and hospitals facing a deluge of poisonings and drug-drive accidents

    Today, about one in five people in California use cannabis regularly, and it has become something of a health trend – not simply legal and above board but, judging by the stylish throng at Serra when I visited, practically de rigueur…And I must admit, the way it’s all sold, as some kind of divine health-giving elixir, certainly makes the idea of dabbling more palatable. But I am not here to partake. Because behind the shiny pots and serenely smiling assistants, a far more disturbing picture is emerging.

    Over the past few years, doctors in California have begun to voice concerns about the repercussions of increasing cannabis use. In particular, how the laissez-faire approach is fuelling a surge in addiction and mental illness.

    Many are particularly concerned about Los Angeles, where teenagers use the drug more often than in any other Californian city.

    I remember falling off my chair laughing when I heard Seth Rogen say in one breath that pot wasn’t addicting like alcohol, and then admitting in the next breath that he and wife can’t even function during the day without puffing a fatty.

    Pretty much every claim by the “legalize it” crowd, and I’ll admit to buying their claims, has turned out to be wrong. It didn’t cut down on the black market, it didn’t result in a betterment in public health, it didn’t nerf the power of the cartels–turns out criminal mega-enterprises know how to make money regardless of the political environment. I’ve seen their claims fall flat on their face in Colorado, and here’s people in California saying the same thing.

    There’s probably no real solution at this point for pot any more than there is for alcoholism or hard drug use, except to warn your kids off about the dangers and hope they don’t get caught up in it.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  207. Half the country would throw a party and wave farewell if California decided to secede,

    I would classify that with “I don’t know how Nixon won, nobody I know voted for him”. Now if you had said “half the patrons at Bob & Ethel’s Country Bar and BBB” ….

    Personally, I feel that we did not kill, displace, and exploit hundreds of thousands of Indians, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, and all kinds of immigrants from other lands, so a bunch of hippies can just walk off with the place. They’re free to go, but the land stays ours.

    nk (6521f6)

  208. Cruz’s electoral count mischief and brazen flip-flop on Trump rules him out for me. Super smart, but I just don’t trust him anymore…..

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21) — 7/2/2022 @ 4:50 pm

    Cruz is a non-starter as a presidential candidate regardless of his Trump associations. The people in his own state don’t like him that much, and he only got re-elected because Texas has a lot of people living in the hinterlands who thought Robert O’Rourke was a media-fluffed goofball (the media was clearly running the Obama playbook with O’Rourke, wherein they pick a centrist-seeming left-wing politician who’s young and looks good to promote).

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  209. Given the last time states tried to secede lead to a real Civil War, I doubt it will be tried again.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  210. They don’t care what Cheney says anymore because they elected her to represent them and she does not. They could give a rats ass about what a west coast blog thinks of them… in fact it probably reinforces their current audition process… fight for us not them. That EPA ruling by the SCOTUS? Trump helped kill the EPA bug that was scratching up their butt. I’d be grateful in that case too.

    steveg (1da4b8)

  211. Bidens sanctions on Russia seem to be a long way from actually hurting them and Bidens energy policies are directly to blame.for the energy profiteering Russia is now gaining
    Hopefully the next President will get the greenlight to use modern nuclear and natural gas or we are f-d. Trump offered to facilitate the build of compression facilities and terminals to serve Germany, but they said no. Probably the right call given the gulf between GOP energy policy and DNC during an upcoming re-election

    steveg (1da4b8)

  212. Newsmax Host Rips Into ‘Career Politician’ Ron DeSantis Over Potential 2024 Run Against Trump
    Newsmax’s top-rated host Greg Kelly warned Republican Governor Ron DeSantis on Friday night: Don’t take on Donald Trump for president come 2024.
    ………
    “Governor Ron DeSantis. He is amazing, so talented, so smart, unlimited political future. I want him to be president someday,” Kelly began his Friday evening show as a graphic appeared on screen stating, ‘Not Yet, Ron.’ “I think that’s almost guaranteed to happen, but I’d rather not see him run in 2024.”
    ……..
    After airing a highlight reel of the Florida governor taking aim at reporters, Kelly heaped on the praise before cutting to the chase.

    “Let’s face it, though, he’s borrowing heavily from Donald Trump style and agenda and policies, and that’s fine,” he said. “That’s totally fine, but I’m hearing from more and more Republicans. ‘Well, you know, Donald Trump has all that baggage, and it’s time for a fresh face.’ Don’t fall for that argument!”
    ………
    “Let’s see, he’s forty-three now, on Election Day in November of 2024, he would be forty-five years old. Now, here’s the thing. That makes him, what, three decades younger then-President Trump. I’m not saying that’s a good thing, I’m saying he’s got plenty of time ahead of him to make his move, but not now, and there are some things he needs to clean up,” the primetime Newsmax host said. “Just a little bit.”
    ………
    “Obviously, he [DeSantis] has studied President Trump very, very carefully. You can kind of see it in this picture in Mar-a-Lago. I mean, they’re very similar, and I think DeSantis inhaled so much from Donald Trump,” Kelly said. “The agenda, the style, it is all Trump’s.”
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  213. Texas can enforce 1925 abortion ban, state Supreme Court says

    Texas can enforce its abortion ban from 1925, the state Supreme Court ruled late Friday evening, a decision that exposes abortion providers to lawsuits and financial penalties if they continue to perform the procedure.

    ……… That law made performing an abortion, by any method, punishable by two to 10 years in prison.

    Friday’s decision does not permit prosecutors to bring criminal cases against abortion providers, but it exposes anyone who assists in the procurement of an abortion to fines and lawsuits.

    …….. The Texas Legislature last year passed a “trigger law” that would automatically ban abortion from the moment of fertilization 30 days after a judgment from the Supreme Court, which typically comes about a month after the initial opinion.
    ………
    “Although these statutes were unenforceable while Roe was on the books, they are still Texas law,” Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said June 24. “Under these pre-Roe statutes, abortion providers could be criminally liable for providing abortions starting today.”
    ……..
    A hearing is scheduled on July 12 to decide on a more permanent restraining order. The case will eventually be heard on its merits, though effectively the trigger law set to take effect in about two months will ensure abortion is banned in Texas regardless of whether the 1925 law is enforced.

    ………(L)awmakers said they will turn their attention on improving adoption programs and preventing pregnant Texans from leaving the state to receive the procedure.
    #########

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  214. @217. Look closely. It’s a rerun:

    Welcome to 1964.

    Literally! LOL

    DCSCA (e44031)

  215. DeSantis is at least qualified, smart, and has time to increase his broader likability.

    Smart? Waging war with Disney is a Mickey Mouse move.

    DCSCA (e44031)

  216. Please. Half the country would throw a party and wave farewell if California decided to secede, and the other half would be scrambling to move there in the aftermath.

    Hardly. Two things would happen.

    1) The 15 million people who are right-of-center (or at least the adults among them) would start cleaning their guns for a revolution in this brand new country. And

    2) The Armed Forces of the United States would arrest all the politicians and declare martial law. There is no effing way we give up on manifest destiny.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  217. Smart? Waging war with Disney is a Mickey Mouse move.

    Why? Disney backed down and fired the fools who thought this was a good idea. Netflix got the message.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  218. There’s probably no real solution at this point for pot any more than there is for alcoholism or hard drug use, except to warn your kids off about the dangers and hope they don’t get caught up in it.

    I guarantee you this is wrong.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  219. Cruz is the guy that thought he could fool all the people, all the time.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  220. Given the last time states tried to secede lead to a real Civil War, I doubt it will be tried again.

    Nor will the government dawdle while they raise an army and acquire munitions. The only real question is whether the US Army arrives in Sacramento before the militia from the surrounding Red counties do.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  221. https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/economy/recession-economists-nber/index.html

    We are officially in a recession, but CNN wants you to know it’s all those white guys who are to blame.

    These leftists are insane. They are racist. They want to excuse all their failures and just scapegoat a certain race and sex. Where have we seen that before?

    That’s because, in the United States, the economy isn’t broadly and officially considered to be in a recession until a relatively unknown group of eight economists says so.
    The economists, who serve together as the Business Cycle Dating Committee, are hand-selected by and work under the umbrella of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a private nonprofit organization. They have no predetermined meeting dates and their deliberations are private. There are no fixed term dates and the final determination of who gets to serve on the committee is made by one man: NBER president and Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist James Poterba.
    There is a clear lack of racial diversity amongst the eight members, and NBER has never had a member who has been a racial minority, according to Gary Hoover, co-chair of the American Economic Association Committee on the Status of Minority Groups in the Economics Profession.
    All NBER members are experts in macroeconomics and business cycle research. Each is over 60 years old, and they are all associated with prestigious universities. The group includes two women, one of whom is married to another member.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  222. @191. Look, Trump wasn’t even a republican.

    “Look”– and for years, neither was Reagan:

    Reagan began as a Hollywood Democrat, and Franklin D. Roosevelt was “a true hero” to him. [He voted for FDR 4 times.] Reagan Idolized FDR: As a young man who came of age during the Great Depression, Reagan idolized Franklin D. Roosevelt. The New Deal rescued the Reagan family finances, providing work for Reagan’s father, Jack. “I soon idolized FDR,” Reagan later recalled. He would promote FDR whenever he could as part of his radio announcer job, and he cast his first vote ever – for Roosevelt for president. He would go on to vote for FDR three more times and cast his vote in 1948 for Harry Truman. He was, in his own words, “an ardent New Dealer.”

    He did not register as a Republican until 1962.

    In his early political career, he joined numerous political committees with a left-wing orientation, such as the American Veterans Committee. He fought against Republican-sponsored right-to-work legislation and supported Helen Gahagan Douglas in 1950 when she was defeated for the Senate by Richard Nixon… In December 1945, he was stopped from leading an anti-nuclear rally in Hollywood by pressure from the Warner Bros. studio. He would later make nuclear weapons a key point of his presidency when he specifically stated his opposition to mutual assured destruction. Reagan also built on previous efforts to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. In the 1948 presidential election, Reagan strongly supported Harry S. Truman and appeared on stage with him during a campaign speech in Los Angeles… In the early 1950s, his relationship with actress Nancy Davis grew, and he shifted to the right when he endorsed the presidential candidacies of Dwight D. Eisenhower (1952 and 1956) and Richard [The Big Dick] Nixon (1960).

    Reagan was hired by General Electric (GE) in 1954 to host the General Electric Theater, a weekly TV drama series. He also traveled across the country to give motivational speeches to over 200,000 GE employees. His many speeches—which he wrote himself—were non-partisan but carried a conservative, pro-business message; he was influenced by Lemuel Boulware, a senior GE executive. Boulware, known for his tough stance against unions and his innovative strategies to win over workers, championed the core tenets of modern American conservatism: free markets, anticommunism, lower taxes, and limited government. Eager for a larger stage, but not allowed to enter politics by GE, Reagan quit and formally registered as a Republican. He often said, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me.” [Except it didn’t.] … When the legislation that would become Medicare was introduced in 1961, he created a recording for the American Medical Association (AMA) warning that such legislation would mean the end of freedom in America.’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

    https://presidentialhistory.com/2015/05/why-ronald-reagan-left-the-democratic-party.html

    “But look- for years, Trump wasn’t even a Republican.” LOLOLOLOLOL

    “Oops!” – Rick Perry

    DCSCA (e44031)

  223. Disney backed down and fired the fools who thought this was a good idea……

    Fall guys.

    Disney Board Renews Bob Chapek as C.E.O.

    Rip Murdock (a994d9)

  224. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1543263229006254080

    People said if I voted for Trump fascism would descend on America. Boy were they right.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  225. Dana @24-

    There would be drawbacks for him if he does announcement early:
    ………
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he announced on July 4 (evidence of his patriotism!)

    Dana (1225fc) — 7/1/2022 @ 5:26 pm

    From the same article:

    One of the most compelling arguments against an early announcement had been federal campaign finance laws. If and when Mr. Trump announces, he would be ineligible to use any of the $100 million that he has parked in his political action committee to directly support his presidential run. His campaign would also be constrained by a strict $2,900-per-person donation cap for the primaries, meaning he could tap his largest donors only once over the next period of roughly two years to directly fund a candidacy.

    I’m sure that Trump is more obsessed with creating a splash. I’ll bet his campaign won’t formally register with the FEC, it will just be a Truth Social post to distract MAGAWORLD.

    Rip Murdock (7a050e)

  226. https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/07/kirkland-ellis-law-firm-forces-out-conservative-superstar-paul-clement-after-he-won-big-scotus-2nd-amendment-case/

    We have covered the loss not only of institutions, but also institutional norms. Medicine and the sciences, once thought to have natural immunity, now are infected with progressive political orthodoxy. It goes on and on, including not only law schools, but also the American Bar Association Council, the dominant law school accreditor. Oh, and the large corporations are some of the worst offenders through HR reigns of terror, but you knew that.

    But it doesn’t stop there. The large law firms that represent large corporations also are corrupted.

    We covered one such case back in 2011, when conservative superstar lawyer Paul Clement was forced to leave the large law firm King & Spalding after Clement agreed to represent the House of Representatives in the Defense of Marriage Act case. Private representation for the House was necessary because the Obama Justice Department, after having defended the legality of DOMA, suddenly dropped the representation and claimed DOMA was unlawful. After King & Spalding came under activst pressure, which included junior lawyers threatening to quit, disruption of law school recruiting, and threatened protests at King & Spalding clients (the largest of which was Coca Cola), King & Spalding dropped the representation. But it still represented Gitmo detainees. Clement, to his credit, refused to drop the House as a client, and was forced to leave King & Spalding.

    A little over a decade later, Clement has faced the same problem at Kirkland & Ellis, a massive law firm that represents much of corporate America and is reported to have among the highest partner compensation, well into the seven figure range. Kirkland has a large pro bono program, where it provides thousands of hours of free legal service to mostly progressive clients and issues.

    Clement was lead counsel in the U.S. Supreme Court Bruen case which found NY State’s concealed carry restrictions to be unconstitutional. SCOTUS have come under withering attack for the decision from Democrats and the media for the decision, which vigorously defended citizen rights under the 2nd Amendment.

    Leftists don’t want opposing viewpoints to be able to be heard or have their day in court.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  227. @227. Disney Board Renews Bob Chapek as C.E.O.

    ROFLMAO Und zey don’t call it Mousewitz fer nuttin’:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L90smU0SOcQ

    DCSCA (e44031)

  228. We are officially in a recession, but CNN wants you to know it’s all those white guys who are to blame.

    It’s just numbers. Numbers have no race. Or is this more of the “white people’s science” crap? I’m less worried about CRT than I am about Rainforest Math.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  229. What could possibly go wrong.

    I have no clue. Perhaps you can enlighten us. $13.5 million dollars to Bill Gates is like a dollar to me. He gets that much in interest every few days, even now.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  230. Leftists don’t want opposing viewpoints to be able to be heard or have their day in court.

    They want to win unwinnable cases by default. One of the neater tricks was to win the gay marriage case in district court (with a crooked judge), then getting the other side disqualified on Standing grounds when they tried to appeal. They didn’t do that in district court because there would have been no case or controversy.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  231. @200 AOC and the left will take over the democrat party as trump took over the republican party. The left will take over blue then purple states. Then the government deep state. Their will be minor violence their always is ;but thats just to keep the corporate establishment democrats in line. Their will be no need to storm the bastile we will already control it. They will make semi-peaceful change possible so no need for much violent revolution. Kevin is always asking me to climb into the tank and storm the white house grounds. Watch video of AOC ‘s appearance on stephen colbert last week and see the reception she got despite conservatives and corporate democrats telling us how unpopular she is.

    asset (08087a)

  232. Give me the Ranchers and Coal miners of Wyoming over all the people from cantafordya.

    mg (8cbc69)

  233. Asset,

    the clapping seals at Colbert don’t mean a thing. They are told when to clap.

    If you think the mind-sickness that infects leftists is going to spread to purple states, you’re going to be in for a rude awakening. Florida was purple. They thought Texas was going purple. People are rejecting leftist beliefs because they destroy lives.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  234. Bidens sanctions on Russia seem to be a long way from actually hurting them and Bidens energy policies are directly to blame.for the energy profiteering Russia is now gaining

    I think that’s half true because Putin is going to take at least a 10% hit to his GDP this year.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  235. NJRob (eb56c3) — 7/2/2022 @ 7:51 pm

    Better an American buying American farmland than a ChiCom company doing so.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  236. But in that part of the political spectrum, Bill Gates is as reviled and distrusted as any official foreign adversary.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  237. Russian Ruble Continues Recovery From Sanctions Slump, Hits Seven-Year High

    Moscow (CNSNews.com) – The Russian ruble hit a seven-year high on Wednesday, continuing its recovery from an initial, dramatic slump earlier this year due to Western sanctions over the conflict in Ukraine…

    During a speech in Poland in late March, President Biden said Western-led sanctions had succeeded in turning the ruble into “rubble” and predicted that the Russian economy was “on track to be cut in half in the coming years.

    Since those remarks, however, the ruble has completely recovered its pre-conflict value, and then some.’ – https://cnsnews.com/article/international/dimitri-simes/russian-ruble-continues-recovery-sanctions-slump-hits-seven

    Joey, please predict no precipitation for a decade in California– we need the rain.

    _)___

    Are sanctions actually hurting Russia’s economy? Here’s what you need to know

    “Just over four months ago, the U.S. and several allied nations levied unprecedented sanctions against Russia in response to its invasion of Ukraine.

    For weeks afterwards, the Russian ruble’s value tanked, foreign multinational companies pulled out of the country, and economic prospects began looking grim.

    But Russia responded aggressively. It shored up the ruble’s value and increased oil exports to China and India.

    The ruble is now the world’s strongest performing currency. Thanks to years of preparations, Russia has become far more self-sufficient, and has massive foreign exchange reserves. It has also reopened several companies that were previously under foreign management, like McDonald’s.

    So, are sanctions working?…”

    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109033582/are-sanctions-actually-hurting-russias-economy-heres-what-you-need-to-know

    It’s an interesting and fair analysis.

    DCSCA (6a8300)

  238. How to tell a politician is a performance artist slash social media influencer and not an actual legislator.

    AOC has NEVER introduced a bill that became law.
    Not one time.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  239. The recent deaths of Gazprom executives is worse than Arkancide.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  240. #240 Paul – Taking a look at what I like to call the “league table” in the June 18th Economist, I see that they are predicting that Russia’s GDP will decline by 10 percent this year, while the US GDP grows by 2.3 percent. The prediction for Russia is the worst of any nation in the table.

    In the same table, they say that Russia’s inflation rate is currently at 17.1 percent, while the US inflation rate is at 8.6 percent. Russia’s rate is higher than that of every other nation in the table, except Turkey (73.5%) and Argentina (60.7%).

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  241. #244 – “AOC has NEVER introduced a bill that became law.
    Not one time.”

    For which we may be grateful.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  242. Jim, I used to subscribe to The Economist because it has great content, but it’s tough to access anything without shelling out shekels.
    I think the Putin defenders’ crowing about the ruble is overblown, in part because Putin has some measure of control over it, and in light of the other indicators that show their economy in trouble.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  243. Leftists don’t want opposing viewpoints to be able to be heard or have their day in court.

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 7/2/2022 @ 7:47 pm

    They’ve done a piss-poor job of it over the last few years (considering how long cases perchlorate in the lower courts before reaching the Supreme Court). Since Clement is setting up his own practice, what is the problem? His cases will still be litigated.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  244. @206-

    Extremism in the defense of liberty (or life) is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.“

    Sen. Barry Goldwater (1964)

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  245. “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.“

    FIFY. Don’t lie.

    DCSCA (8983aa)

  246. And and then he kissed Mike Pence and said ” Fredo you broke my heart, you broke my heart!” Or something like that, at least that’s what someone told me.
    Lady hutch/Shady Cheney/2024

    mg (8cbc69)

  247. @253. Daughter Darth will be a bleached and bourbon stained 2X4, ignored and nailed into the sundeck of history at a Jackson Hole eatery by next spring.

    DCSCA (8983aa)

  248. “a country built on genocide & slavery does not deserve to be celebrated. join Denver DSA for a flag burning to grieve, heal, and be in community. “

    Colonel Haiku (ad6e92)

  249. ‘I can see, and I suggest that all thoughtful men must contemplate, the flowering of an Atlantic civilization, the whole world of Europe reunified and free, trading openly across its borders, communicating openly across the world. It is a goal far, far more meaningful than a moon shot.’ – Barry Goldwater, Cow Palace, July 16, 1964

    Five years later, to the day, July 16, 1969, the AuH20 hypocrite made it meaningful enough to make certain he parked his ass in the VIP seating section at Cape Kennedy for the launch of Apollo 11 to the moon.

    Memo to Goldwater freaks: “‘We’re all out of cornflakes. F.U.’…” – Oscar Madison [Walter Matthau] ‘The Odd Couple’ 1968

    DCSCA (31bd30)

  250. I think that’s half true because Putin is going to take at least a 10% hit to his GDP this year.

    Iran is planning on lopping 4 zeros off its currency.

    The rial is now trading at 320,000 to the dollar. ON 1/1/2013 it was 32,550 to the dollar. Sanctions hurt.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  251. Since Clement is setting up his own practice, what is the problem? His cases will still be litigated.

    I’d be very interested in how much they had to pay to force out a partner. The conditions they imposed on him remaining amounted to a firing.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  252. For which we may be grateful.

    After the GOP takes over Congress, the Squad will be stripped of their committees, so we won’t have to worry about them getting their bills passed.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  253. 254-
    Witnessed a cowboy stuff a hippie in a popcorn machine at a local Jackson Hole saloon. Super great time!

    mg (8cbc69)

  254. @262, good thing DCCCP got his “favorable” vote in for Putin there at the bottom. Trump voters still committed….what’s a little insurrection and vote stealing, I guess. Seems like a heavy dose of name recognition….would think DeSantis would be higher than Hillary Clinton…and much higher than Pelosi. I bunch of who’s on my team…..

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  255. 240. Russia is selling oil at a discount. But that’s another thing from being able to place a cap on the price Russia gets, (the almost latest sanctions idea)

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  256. Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Chief Pedro “Pete” Arredondo has resigned as city councilman. He never attended any meetings and absence I think three times automatically amounts to a resignation unless he gets a leave of absence and the Council voted that down earlier. The mayor found out about it from a newspaper website.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  257. @263. Good thing: Trump is the most popular political figure in America.

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2022/07/trump-is-most-popular-political-figure.html

    FIFY, Agarn. Eventually you’ll figure out that in these times, Americans don’t want to be governed; they wish to be entertained.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_zo0FiNheI&t=15s

    “Oops!” – Rick Perry

    DCSCA (2c30d0)

  258. Russia is selling oil at a discount.

    Oil flow is cash flow. With guaranteed sales the “discount” is merely amortized over the time w/a steady customer.

    DCSCA (2c30d0)

  259. Mississippi’s governor: Full speed ahead with new abortion restrictions
    ……..
    “This entire court battle was never about winning a court case; it was always about creating a culture of life, and that’s exactly what we are doing here in Mississippi,” said (Gov. Tate) Reeves, a Republican, on “Fox News Sunday.”

    “We have to prove that being pro-life is not simply about being anti-abortion, and, in our state, we are enacting policies to do exactly that,” Reeves told host Mike Emanuel, without specifying what policies he meant or how they would be implemented.
    …….
    Emanuel also asked the governor about the state potentially using surveillance of email and cellphones to guarantee Mississippi residents were not obtaining abortions, something that was clearly not an issue before the Roe v. Wade ruling.

    “I have no reason to believe that there will be any surveillance of mail or phones,” Reeves said.

    In response to another question, Reeves suggested that discussions about exceptions for rape within state laws were basically a distraction, since very few abortions were obtained because of rape and incest. Mississippi’s law allows for exceptions for rape or incest, though some lawmakers are seeking to eliminate those provisions.
    ………

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  260. Ms. Karamo should know that even the demon-possessed have the right to vote as long as they’re properly registered. That’s all she needs to know as a SecState candidate.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  261. The City of Orlando gets into the F*ck the Fourth spirit:

    A lot of people probably don’t want to celebrate our nation right now, and we can’t blame them. When there is so much division, hate and unrest, why on earth would you want to have a party celebrating any of it?
    But in all seriousness, you know in your heart, Fourth of July fireworks are amazing, especially when you are standing in 90° heat, 100% humidity, next to 100,000 of your closest friends. In that moment, something takes over and we all become united in an inexplicable bond. Yes, America is in strife right now, but you know what……we already bought the fireworks.

    maybe someone needs to remind democrats who’s president

    JF (0929ea)

  262. get a load of this Putin tweet:

    “My message to the companies running gas stations and setting prices at the pump is simple: this is a time of war and global peril. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you’re paying for the product. And do it now.”

    oh wait, that’s not Vlad. It’s Demented Joe

    JF (0929ea)

  263. A tragic situation’: Governor discusses pregnant 10-year-old with CNN host
    The case of a pregnant 10-year-old girl in Ohio became the focus of a pointed discussion Sunday between South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem and CNN host Dana Bash.

    During a back-and-forth on CNN’s “State of the Union” about South Dakota’s abortion laws, Bash brought up with Noem the 10-year-old girl from Ohio who was denied an abortion and then traveled to Indiana to terminate the pregnancy.
    ……..
    When Bash asked Noem — a Republican governor against abortion rights — if South Dakota will, “going forward, force a 10-year-old in that very same situation to have a baby,” Noem expressed sympathy for the 10-year-old and called the story “tragic.” She also said no one was talking about the rapist in the situation.

    “As much as we can talk about what we can do for that little girl, I think we also need to be addressing those sick individuals that do this to our children,” she said.
    ………
    When pressed further, Noem said, “What I would say is, I don’t believe a tragic situation should be perpetuated by another tragedy. And so there’s more that we have got to do to make sure that we really are living a life that says every life is precious, especially innocent lives that have been shattered, like that 10-year-old girl.”

    Bash also asked if Noem would consider the life of a mother at risk in this situation.

    “And I think that’s something that — yes, that situation, the doctor, the family, the individuals closest to that will make the decisions there for that family.”
    ……..
    Noem also said she believes that those who break South Dakota’s abortion laws should be punished.

    “And that’s the doctors, not the women. I want to make sure that that’s appropriate and that the women are not punished in this situation, and that we do support them as we go forward.”
    ………

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  264. Rip Murdock (ca33fe) — 7/3/2022 @ 2:08 pm

    rape is a very serious crime, made even worse that the victim is ten

    i haven’t read an account yet, and there are countless available, where the rapist is identified

    why would that be?

    JF (0929ea)

  265. 263… Why the DNC are shaking in their boots:

    Millions of Americans dislike the Democrats much, much more than they like Trump. I’m counted among them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  266. Russia is getting about $70 per barrel from India and China and from the article below it seems that Urals is well in the money at $44.

    “Russia’s federal budget is based on an average Urals price of $44.20/bl this year. When prices rise above this level, additional state revenue from crude exports goes to the National Wealth Fund. Russia’s central bank forecast in October last year that Urals would average $65/bl in 2022”

    This was snipped from an article dated 2/7/2022
    https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2299497-strong-urals-paves-way-for-russia-to-invest-in-capacity

    If Biden wanted cheaper gas prices, he could work with refinery owners to increase future refining capacity (refining capacity has dropped by over 1,000,000 barrels per day since the high in 2019) but he won’t because he needs the bogeyman of fossil fuels to keep the huge AGW cohort within the DNC frothing and writing checks. (Refinery productions is set to decrease further in 2022 and 2023.) Sure it would take a while to rebuild the capacity but it would send a signal to the gasoline futures industry.

    steveg (31f5c1)

  267. US depends on outsourced offsite refineries, and doesn’t have the capacity to refine 100% the US daily usage anyway.
    Lyondell will shut its Houston refinery down in 2023 or immediately if there are equipment problems requiring repairs. Biden claims profiteering, but this particular refinery somehow mananges to lose money…
    Biden personally has no idea about refineries and capacities, or that an additional 5% of capacity is usually down for maintenance so his ventriloquists pop off Russia Russia Russia, Putin, Putin, Putin and finish by singing a few bars from Elizabeth Warren favorite, Corporate Greed. Then they pivot to a rogue SCOTUS gutting the EPA and killing us all, brown people first.

    steveg (31f5c1)

  268. The City of Orlando gets into the F*ck the Fourth spirit:

    I wonder which Millennial idiot in the city PA department wrote that snark, and which Gen-X idiot boss signed off on it.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  269. A lot of people probably don’t want to celebrate our nation right now

    Well, the declaration in 1776 isn’t exactly the national birthday; more divorce papers served on George– but it’s a matter of a POV; and it’s not a governing document anyway; an ‘I want my MAPO’ moment – especially how they actually signed it- piecemeal over weeks and not in a group as films and folklore portray it: ‘The Declaration became official when Congress voted for it on July 4; signatures of the delegates were not needed to make it official. The handwritten copy of the Declaration of Independence that was signed by Congress is dated July 4, 1776. The signatures of fifty-six delegates are affixed; however, the exact date when each person signed it has long been the subject of debate. Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams all wrote that the Declaration had been signed by Congress on July 4. But in 1796, signer Thomas McKean disputed that, pointing out that some signers were not then present, including several who were not even elected to Congress until after that date.’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence

    It’s a fascinating tale to be sure.

    For instance, ‘John Adams wrote to his wife and predicted that July 2 [the date the resolution of independence was actually adopted with twelve affirmative votes and one abstention, and the colonies formally severed political ties with Great Britain]… would become a great American holiday. He thought that the vote for independence would be commemorated; he did not foresee that Americans would instead celebrate Independence Day on the date when the announcement of that act was finalized- July 4.’

    ‘I am apt to believe that [Independence Day] will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.’ – John Adams. So it’s Adams we have to thank for igniting the traditions of fireworks and BBQs. Course, if the Redcoats had prevailed, Adams and his rebellious brethren would have been hanged for treason to the Crown and the DoI dispatched to the dustbin of history.

    We could celebrate the birthday on the date the Revolutionary War ended when the Treaty of Paris was signed on September 4, 1783– but it’s doubtful most Americans have even heard of it. Or the adoption of the Articles of Confederation, drafted November 15, 1777 and ratified Feb 2, 1781, which flamed out-and replaced w/t second try in 1789 by the Constitution; and Constitution Day falls on September 17.

    But the story of how the DoI was actually pulled together over longer time periods gthan we’d like to believe is definitely an interesting read.

    DCSCA (ed9ed8)

  270. @280. If only she made loving fun, eh norcal?

    “Significant shrinkage!” – George Costanza

    DCSCA (ed9ed8)

  271. @270. maybe someone needs to remind democrats who’s president

    And Republicans who is governor. But then, isn’t Orlando’s DisneyWorld supposed to be one of “the happiest places on Earth” outside of Disneyland? Or perhaps, given DeSantis’ cheesy cartoon persona, Orlando is merely East Mousewitz these days. 😉

    DCSCA (ed9ed8)

  272. @281 Come on. You had to laugh, DCSCA.

    norcal (da5491)

  273. #248 Paul – I tend to pick up an issue of the Economist every month or two, partly for that “league table”, as I like to call it, in the back of the magazine. (For those not familiar with the magazine, an explanation: At the back, each issue contains a large table comparing seven categories of financial statistics: GDP, consumer prices, unemployment, currrent account balance, budget balance, interest rates, and currency units.)

    They compare 42 nations, and a summary for the euro area, so you can see what is working in the world, and what isn’t. For example, currently the US has an inflation rate of 8.6 percent, and the euro area a rate of 8.1 percent.

    Or, in the last category, you can see that almost all the currencies have depreciated against the dollar in the last year, so it will be harder for the US to export. (The exceptions are Putin’s Russia and Peru.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  274. Or, in the last category, you can see that almost all the currencies have depreciated against the dollar in the last year, so it will be harder for the US to export.

    No wonder my international stock funds are down.

    norcal (da5491)

  275. 202. The Governors of Maryland and Virginia say that protecting the Supreme Court justices is a federal job.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  276. @283. Of course I laughed, norcal. Did you—or have you never listened to F/M’s Rumours?

    Have you ever seen Fox’s Gutfeld play beat bongos along w/a Kamala speech? It’s so hilarious– you’ll soak your adult diapers.

    DCSCA (6bcd55)

  277. @287 I own the album. It’s right up there with Beggar’s Banquet.

    norcal (da5491)

  278. Re 286 and 282, Youngkin gonna catch flak, wonder if Sears and or Mijares undercut/overrule out of political calculation?

    urbanleftbehind (a0476d)

  279. “i haven’t read an account yet, and there are countless available, where the rapist is identified

    why would that be?”

    The identity of the 10 year old child has been concealed, which is appropriate. The identity of the doctor in Ohio has also been concealed, which is almost certainly a good idea for his or her safety. The only source of information is the Indianapolis ob-gyn, who may not have been told. The only people who know and aren’t talking are the family of the girl (who probably want to avoid exposure), law enforcement, and maybe some members of the Ohio government.

    That’s my analysis, let me know if you find any flaws with it.

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  280. May we handle all our 4th of July mishaps with such drunken style. Well done, sir.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  281. Senator Jeff Merkley
    @SenJeffMerkley
    No leases means no leases.
    @POTUS
    needs to live up to his campaign pledge of bold climate action when the 5 year plan is finalized.
    4:08 PM · Jul 1, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

    Commies sure do love their five-year plans.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  282. My opinion of “people” who oppose abortion in cases of rape or incest is that they come from a long line of “people” whose parents are also their siblings.

    As for Comment #272 posted at 2:08 pm, it wasn’t worth the trouble to unblock it. A CNN interview reported second-hand by Politico selectively cut and pasted by our fellow commenter. As another commenter would say: Pfft!

    nk (9338bd)

  283. Mattis’ diplomatic answer about Putin’s fascist invasion…

    Mattis, a former Marine four-star general who led the Pentagon during the first two years of the Trump administration, condemned “the immoral, the tactically incompetent, operationally stupid and strategically foolish effort” of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, CNN reported.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  284. 202. The Governors of Maryland and Virginia say that protecting the Supreme Court justices is a federal job.

    I have this picture of Ginni Thomas on her lawn with an AR15.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  285. 202. The Governors of Maryland and Virginia say that protecting the Supreme Court justices is a federal job.

    I wonder if things would change if the Proud Boys started demonstrating outside Ketanji Brown Jackson’s house.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  286. The two governor’s response was that there was only so much they can do under their state laws, that the federal law (that’s not being enforced for political reasons) is far more robust.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  287. Davethulhu (4335be) — 7/3/2022 @ 6:50 pm

    a crime, if charged, would be a matter of public record

    JF (331dae)

  288. To what is the identity of the rapist material? Is there any person anywhere in America who may impregnate a 10-year old girl and not be committing a crime? The only question is whether the child is pregnant.

    nk (9338bd)

  289. I suspect JF believes it’s an invented story…..that several newspapers would just pass on

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  290. nk (9338bd) — 7/3/2022 @ 9:36 pm

    it’s more relevant than an ohio abortion law is to a south dakota governor

    JF (331dae)

  291. AJ_Liberty (c82e21) — 7/3/2022 @ 9:57 pm

    i don’t know if it’s an invented story

    withholding basic details is not really a good way to make it look legit

    JF (331dae)

  292. “a crime, if charged, would be a matter of public record”

    yes, but a public record where?

    “withholding basic details is not really a good way to make it look legit”

    you’re making an assumption here

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  293. it’s more relevant than an ohio abortion law is to a south dakota governor

    I agree that that was a nasty hit piece on Noem, made even nastier by the retellings.

    I also agree that whether there was in fact a 10-year old pregnant three days past six weeks needs to be seriously questioned.

    nk (9338bd)

  294. The democrat party leaders have different concerns then what posters here want them to have. Their priority is different then yours. If they lose control of the democrat party to the left they will be out of power whereas if they just lose 2022 midterms they will still be leading the democrat party and DNC. Remember republicans are self destructive and many are evil. Both nixon and trump destroyed themselves and reagan came close with iran-contra drug dealing. Both bushes left disasters. There are more democrat voters then republican voters so the abortion issue will galvanize apathetic democrats to come out and vote and voter suppression/gerrymandering can only go so far before Biden sends in the federal troops as they did after the civil war.

    asset (57a2f6)

  295. Good ole Cantafordya leads the nation in transforming kids into trannies, what a state of confusion. So sad no lawyers can fix this abortion of minds.

    mg (8cbc69)

  296. A great piece by David French on the splitting of the United States and the menace of factions. Happy 4th!

    https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/this-july-fourth-meet-three-americas

    Here’s a taste

    “There was a time when I lived my life on the polarized wings. I spent more time worried about “the left” than I spent thinking through what part my partisanship played in fraying the American social fabric. I saw the triumph of my political foes as a greater threat to the nation than the partisan conflict itself.

    … I’m concerned about our national union. I’m more concerned than I was when I wrote my book warning about the possibility of secession. But I also know that the solution to our challenge is hiding in plain sight. It’s the great bulk of the American people—the fed up, forgotten, flexible Americans who span the ideological spectrum yet don’t completely identify as red or blue.”

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  297. Therearetwo DOJ criminal investigations related to Trump, and an Inspector General’s investigation related to what Jeffrey Clark wanted to do. Thaat last resulted in the search warrant if Jeffrey Clark and the seizure oof Jiohn Eastman;’s phone.. The two criminal investigations are the “fake electors” one and the attempt to slow down or stop the cetification of the Electoral vote count (both stretches)

    Sammy Finkelman (b434ee)

  298. Happy Independence Day, and best wishes for Ukrainian independence from their Russian fascist invaders.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  299. Alex Jones’ July 4th message

    “I declare a Declaration of Independence against the alien force .. that is attempting to exterminate the majority of us, and force the minority to merge with AI computers and become cyborg slaves of Satan.”

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  300. …and best wishes for Ukrainian independence from their Russian fascist invaders.

    If wishes were horses, beggars would ride:

    Joey’s borrowed from the PRC, $51-plus borrowed billions and given away billed to American taxpayer dollars at work:

    Ukraine ranked 122nd out of 180 countries in 2021, the second most corrupt in Europe, with Russia the most at 136.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

    DCSCA (8ceef7)

  301. Great 4th of July messages from Matt Labash and Mitt Romney and Three Year Letterman, each in their own special way.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  302. Slava Ukraini, DC.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  303. @311, with the joy of receiving the obligatory “pffft”, “yawn”, “except it is”, or “mike-drop”, what would be the point of yet again responding to this tiny flaccid unsatisfying argument?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  304. @312, Romney’s piece nails it. His final paragraph captures my wish as well. The entire thing is worth a read!

    “I hope for a president who can rise above the din to unite us behind the truth. Several contenders with experience and smarts stand in the wings; we intently watch to see if they also possess the requisite character and ability to bring the nation together in confronting our common reality. While we wait, leadership must come from fathers and mothers, teachers and nurses, priests and rabbis, businessmen and businesswomen, journalists and pundits. That will require us all to rise above ourselves—above our grievances and resentments—and grasp the mantle of leadership our country so badly needs.”

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  305. AJ_Liberty (c82e21) — 7/4/2022 @ 5:33 am

    i’m happy for French that he’s got a book to sell

    and he thinks quotes from Washington, Madison and Lincoln are persuasive while their statues sit in a warehouse somewhere

    the blue faction put them there and the red faction fought it, but thank heavens there was the fed up flexible faction that found a common sense middle ground

    are they out of the warehouse yet?

    JF (331dae)

  306. “For every complex problem, there is a solution that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

    … like a binder full of women, muses Pierre Delecto.

    DCSCA (4b5453)

  307. Speaking of Labash (who I confess has been one of my favorite conservative writers since the aughts), his takedown of Mark Meadows is both eloquent and blistering. At the very least, Meadows and his wife should be prosecuted for their own election fraud.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  308. If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for…but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong. If this is too blind for your taste, consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way. This enables you to be a good citizen (if such is your wish) without spending the enormous amount of time on it that truly intelligent exercise of franchise requires.

    — R.A. Heinlein (italics mine)

    Luckily DCSCA doesn’t have to be asked.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  309. @313. Backing Moran over Capone, another RINO blows his horn.

    DCSCA (4b5453)

  310. Still waiting for delecto to get to the bottom of the big dig.

    mg (8cbc69)

  311. @310 It’s not a good sign when it’s a toss up as to which is more in touch with reality between Jones and Biden.

    frosty (858be4)

  312. @319.ROFLMAOPIP

    “And let me just say, I hope you’ll always remember your first vote– as your best vote.” – The Big Dick

    =mike-drop=

    DCSCA (4b5453)

  313. My first two votes were against George McGovern and Jerry Brown. I would do the same thing again.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  314. Did you know that Micky Mouse enters the public domain in 2024. What luck do you suppose Disney will have getting a GOP-led Congress to extend copyright once again?

    “Revenge is a dish best served cold”

    – Khan Noonien-Singh

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  315. * Mickey

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  316. US oil and gas producers roast Biden, mock clueless ‘time of war and global peril’ tweet

    The U.S. Oil & Gas Association trolled President Joe Biden, advising him an Econ 101 course may be in order after he tweeted on Saturday that “companies running gas stations” should simply “bring down the price you are charging at the pump.”

    The president tweeted that “companies running gas stations” should be cognizant of the fact that “this is a time of war and global peril.”

    “Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you’re paying for the product. And do it now,” Biden tweeted on Saturday.

    ‘President Biden@POTUS

    My message to the companies running gas stations and setting prices at the pump is simple: this is a time of war and global peril. Bring down the price you are charging at the pump to reflect the cost you’re paying for the product. And do it now.
    9:00 AM · Jul 2, 2022·The White House’

    ‘US Oil & Gas Association @US_OGA
    Working on it Mr. President. In the meantime – have a Happy 4th and please make sure the WH intern who posted this tweet registers for Econ 101 for the fall semester…’ 7:11 AM · Jul 3, 2022·Twitter Web App

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/07/04/us-oil-and-gas-producers-roast-biden-mock-clueless-time-of-war-and-global-peril-tweet-1257627/

    Time of war? Joey, when did you ask for a declaration and when did Congress vote on it? Asking for 333 million friends paying $5+/$6+/$7 a gallon for gas.

    DCSCA (4b5453)

  317. Breaking: Multiple people shot as gunfire erupts at July 4 parade in Illinois

    Highland Park, Illinois.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/multiple-people-shot-gunfire-erupts-162523897.html

    DCSCA (4b5453)

  318. #316 – Here’s a picture of one of those warehouses for you:

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  319. Nikki Haley has a degree in Accounting like AOC has a degree in Economics. Oy.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  320. @316, I think the tearing down of the statues is a perfect metaphor for the culture war — furiously fighting to wipe each out through manufactured outrage that many take to illogical extremes (seriously Lincoln!?). I’m a big believer in local governments deciding local matters, and not giving in to mobs acting foolishly. Local communities should be able to decide what art work should be in public spaces…telling their collective story.

    In my opinion some historical villains don’t deserve to be featured prominently…Stonewall Jackson might be one such thug. Robert E. Lee occupies a more gray area in my mind. Lincoln is a giant. Removing the statues does not feed a desire to understand history and how we got where we are, but a desire to destroy….as seems to be the historical model too often.

    Inevitably many of these locales will be left with no public art….with nothing to say about their history. Sure there might be some indecipherable contemporary art and propagandistic murals, but little from past eras that can’t survive today’s inclusiveness filters. I’m of the mindset that we need more public art, not less. Let different cultural perspectives share…hopefully not clutter….the public space to tell different stories. The culture war becomes especially pathological when it degenerates to be about books to be banned, ideas to be legislated against, or statues to be torn down. Both sides. When Tucker Carlson advocates for a Public School outrage surveillance system (to monitor CRT) that’s kind of whacked too.

    Many on the Right railed against Saul Alinky’s “Rules for radicals”, but now seem more than comfortable adopting many of its worst tactics. We shouldn’t rationalize illiberalism. Let’s oppose taking down statues of Lincoln, Lewis and Clark, and probably Lee too. Some we will win; some we will unfortunately lose. But let’s always do it in good faith, and not simply looking to wipe out the liberals….

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  321. AJ, I generally agree, but a good number of Confederate statues were put up not right after the civil war but during the Jim Crow era, a time when the intent was more about white supremacy and racism than honoring generals who fought to preserve the evil of enslaving brown-skinned human beings.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  322. @330, I would like to weigh in with Gov Haley…math doesn’t work that way! There needs to be the equivalent of a condom for tweets.

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  323. The Sikhs aren’t the smart ones in terms of the spelling bees and the coding, but on account of lot being small retail business owners and operators, it makes Haley look just as bad if not worse.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  324. @332, I agree that it’s not always clear cut…..and people should be able to make their case in public forums. I tend to be skeptical of romanticizing the South, though I’m sure some were motivated to just protect their land and their right to secede. I think, for instance, it was good to move on from flying the confederate flag on public property. There are legacy segregation symbols that should be viewed cynically….Lincoln is just not one of them

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  325. Shooting up a 4th of July parade is about as evil as shooting up an elementary school. I’m usually a glass-half-full kinda guy, but it feels symbolic about where this country is at.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  326. CNN reports 5 people shot dead in Highland Park, Illinois mass shooting on July 4.

    Happy Birthday, America.

    … and Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  327. Nikki Haley has a degree in Accounting like AOC has a degree in Economics. Oy.
    Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/4/2022 @ 9:57 am

    let’s buy into the charade that haley writes her own tweets

    that way, buying into the charade that biden writes his seems less ridiculous

    but, had it been mathematically correct, nobody would’ve noticed and had they noticed it would’ve been dismissed as putin’s fault by the mathematically brilliant

    JF (977214)

  328. let’s buy into the charade that haley writes her own tweets

    Why?
    Why would a tweet under her own name be a “charade”?
    When did the GOP no longer become the Party of Personal Responsibility?

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  329. CNN reports 5 people shot dead in Highland Park, Illinois mass shooting on July 4.

    Happy Birthday, America.

    … and Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (c8baf8) — 7/4/2022 @ 10:35 am


    Eat sh!t and die, you creepy asshole!

    nk (9338bd)

  330. Paul Montagu (5de684) — 7/4/2022 @ 10:45 am

    cuz it is? she didn’t write it

    this is not to defend her, anymore than acknowledging the same reality is a defense of demented joe

    Haley? not a fan, but unlike many here I’d vote for her over biden

    she should take responsibility by writing it herself

    JF (977214)

  331. Make that six murdered. The shooter was described as white, male, 18-20 years old.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  332. @340. Pfft. Really? The shooter is still at large, nk- are you posting on the run??? C’mon, man- you can do better than that. How many hundred times to you have to get smacked in the forehead with a 2X4 to realize it hurts? But will pass along your sentiments to my VR friend who just returned from Uvalde. And will be on the way to Highland Park in a few days, twhen the particulars are in order.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  333. cuz it is? she didn’t write it

    How do you know that?

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  334. @342. They’re usually in that age 18-20 bracket, Paul- and that race, too. My VR friend has a lot of data on this. 6 dead- 24 injured. Once they run the rifle to ground – cops just confirmed it was a “rifle” and they’ve recovered it- they’ll trace out more particulars on purchase place and so forth but the age limit issues really is a must to pursue.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  335. Police are now reporting 6 dead and 24 wounded; shooter described as an “armed and dangerous” white male 18-20 (still at large) using a rifle (recovered) from a roof.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  336. All kinds of permutations on motive, who was in the stand and who were the first in the procession? And white isn’t limited to the basic peckerwood variety in Highland Park.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  337. @346. Eyewitness says ‘rifle’ is misnomer- says it was automatic weapon. But then, eyewitnesses aren’t always reliable.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  338. Pro tip go to the Great Lakes base area and honestly to the intersections near where I live. Not that the perp is Navy affiliated, but he won’t stick out like a sore thumb next to recruits and to the semi professional panhandlers.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  339. @347. It’s the age range, ulb. Race is secondary, though a predominant number are white males in that age bracket. My VR friend w/t data insists age limit is the way to curb some of this. But that’s a state-by-state issue to tackle.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  340. “Please, move on, Democrats. I don’t want Trump coming back as a candidate either, but your one-sided hearing — your disregard for fair procedure, your predetermined outcome — are chipping away at and eviscerating your own reputation.”

    —- Ann Althouse 7/4/2022

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  341. She shant worry, I think Trump 3rd bite will teeter toward Gephardt land, he’ll let the others play theocrat while he plays realpolitik.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  342. AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 7/4/2022 @ 10:04 am

    I draw the line on statues on whether the honoree participated in an armed rebellion against the United States (thereby committing treason). If a community wishes to retain such statues that’s fine, but it shows they are still fighting the Civil War and the civil rights progress made over the last 157 years.

    Conversely, communities should have the right to remove statues of those that committed treason, no matter their personal reasons for doing so. Just because a statue was erected to enforce racism in an earlier era doesn’t mean it needs to exist forever.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  343. Personally, I think this traveshamockery of a production reinforces their reputation, the corksoakers…

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  344. Nice impression of narciso, ulb!

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  345. I draw the line on statues on whether the honoree participated in an armed rebellion against the United States (thereby committing treason). If a community wishes to retain such statues that’s fine, but it shows they are still fighting the Civil War and the civil rights progress made over the last 157 years.

    Well, that pretty much melts down all statued Confederate military memorials. What about museum items, artifacts and such. You give a pass to tax dollars preserving/displaying rebellion paraphernalia? The rebels did sign repatriation documents– have one a relative signed who ran a confederate hospital in Richmond and fought against the Union w/t 15th Reg., Virginia Volunteers. His complete record from the Virginia state archives’ still have his cap badge on display here. too.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  346. Eyewitness says ‘rifle’ is misnomer- says it was automatic weapon.

    It is possible to convert a semi-automatic rifle (like a AR-15) to fully automatic.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  347. @357. Don’t think the weapon really matters anymore- it’s the age range and race of these kids to focus on. That seems to be the most prevalent ‘triggering’ pattern. Age limit is what my VR friend advocates as the route to take to curb this- per the data.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  348. Well, that pretty much melts down all statued Confederate military memorials. What about museum items, artifacts and such. You give a pass to tax dollars preserving/displaying rebellion paraphernalia?

    Museums can provide context for artifacts. Statues celebrate the individual being portrayed.

    I knew you would be able to work in some personal connection, you always do.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  349. € Andrew McLeod @amac936 – Jul 1
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    “If Trump had won in EXACTLY the same fashion as Biden, there would have
    been violence nationwide, congressional investigations 24/7 and hysterical
    reporting by the propaganda press; but the opposite happened and we are
    ordered not to question.”

    https://instapundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Screen-Shot-2022-07-03-at-1.39.11-PM-600×283.png

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  350. Age limit is what my VR friend advocates as the route to take to curb this- per the data.

    Discriminating against 18-20 year old adults is probably unconstitutional, see here and here.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  351. @359. Museums can also act as or become shrines by displaying such artifacts:

    Germany Just Opened a Nazi Museum in the Party’s Former Headquarters
    70 years later, Munich’s mayor says the city is ready to “face up to its Nazi past”

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

    And, of course, there’s the Reagan Library. 😉

    As to personal connections- -gthe dude has been dead 150 years so how personal is “relative”… but you will too when you fill your dance card with more waltzes through life. Besides, rest east RIP; the relatives in Ohio fought for the Union. So it balanced out.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  352. @361. It’s just another avenue w/data to support it to challenge- but as long as there’s no change to what is, expect the dead to keep adding up.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  353. @359. Museums can also act as or become shrines by displaying such artifacts:

    Germany Just Opened a Nazi Museum in the Party’s Former Headquarters
    70 years later, Munich’s mayor says the city is ready to “face up to its Nazi past”

    Somehow I don’t think the museum will be a shrine to Nazism.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  354. More collateral victims: Evanston, Illinois closes beaches, cancels fireworks in wake of Highland Park mass shooting.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  355. Indeed, Col. @ 355

    mg (8cbc69)

  356. @364. OTOH, somehow, it can be… to old Nazis and Neo Nazis. It’s in Munich- not Dachau; which is just 10 miles away from Munich.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  357. @361. It’s just another avenue w/data to support it to challenge- but as long as there’s no change to what is, expect the dead to keep adding up.

    It’s not a question of data-it’s whether a sub-class of adults that have full constitutional rights to vote, sign contracts, serve in the military, etc. have the same constitutional rights as other adults.

    California justifies its law by citing statistics showing that young adults constitute less than 5% of the population but represent more than 15% of homicide and manslaughter arrests. The state argues that intermediate scrutiny should apply and that it survives that test because the law is a “reasonable fit” for the state’s important public safety goal.

    But even assuming intermediate scrutiny applies, the state’s assertion of a “reasonable fit” reduces that requirement to a malleable and meaningless limit on the government’s power to restrict constitutional rights. As the majority opinion capably points out, only 0.25% of young adults commit violent crimes. So California limits the rights of 99.75% of young adults based on the bad acts of an incredibly small sliver of the young….
    ……..
    ……… (T)hat would allow the government to trample over constitutional rights just by relying on anecdotal evidence and questionable statistics that loosely relate to a worthwhile government goal. If California can deny the Second Amendment right to young adults based on their group’s disproportionate involvement in violent crimes, then the government can deny that right—as well as other rights—to other groups.

    ……… Take mass shootings for instance. Men have been involved in 99% of all mass shootings in America since 1966, according to a database maintained by the Violence Project.2 California can thus theoretically claim that if men cannot own firearms, it will eliminate 99% of mass shootings.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  358. #360

    If Trump had won in the same manner as Biden in 2020, he would have had the majority of votes and there might have been very little said. Though Stacey Abrams would likely have asserted there was fraud in Georgia — so there would have been some parallel.

    Appalled (03fd2a)

  359. @368. It’s not a question of data

    Except it is. And as you should have learned last week, rights can be labelled wrongs- poorly misinterpreted and rescinded. The next right will tumble just a little easier… try mustard on that pretzel.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  360. #337

    I have to concur with nk. Moderators?

    Appalled (03fd2a)

  361. 369… all evidence to the contrary.

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  362. If we can have an age 21 drinking age, we can have an age 21 firearm purchase age.

    Appalled (03fd2a)

  363. @371. Hmmmm. Yet Appalled isn’t appalled by the threat in #340.

    Appalling!

    When you get some experience dealing with victims and survivors who’ve actually had to field the wreckage and damage to victims in the wake of these tragedies, get back to me, kid.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  364. And as you should have learned last week, rights can be labelled wrongs- poorly misinterpreted and rescinded.

    And

    If we can have an age 21 drinking age, we can have an age 21 firearm purchase age.

    Neither abortion or drinking ages are constitutional rights.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  365. @373. Drinking ages vary from state to state. But the data my VR friend has supports that age is path to follow as the way to curb these events rather than targeting the weapons. The data collected shows the age range to be predominantly 18-20 males, mostly white. That’s where to go on this– but it’s a state by state battle.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  366. #374

    Do not say things on the internet thread that would get you punched in the face in real life. nk’s reaction is exactly what you earned.

    Appalled (cad53f)

  367. @375. Abortion was for 50 years- until it wasn’t as of last week, Rip. OTOH, drinking age didn’t matter at all at one time: the 18th Amendment of the Constitution established the prohibition of alcohol in the United States, gave us Moran, Capone bathtub gin, rampant crime– and was repealed w/t 21st amendment. See the pattern, Rip? Try more mustard on that pretzel.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  368. @377. … And Vladimir thanks you for keeping him smiling.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  369. …… But the data my VR friend has supports that age is path to follow as the way to curb these events rather than targeting the weapons. The data collected shows the age range to be predominantly 18-20 males, mostly white. That’s where to go on this– but it’s a state by state battle.

    I predict in the next five years the Supreme Court will overturn laws that limit the rights of 18-20 year olds to purchase any firearm, irrespective of VR’s “data”.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  370. Colonel Haiku (174b48) — 7/4/2022 @ 11:46 am

    Mollie is engaging in a completely unprovable and pointless hypothetical. Par for her course.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  371. #379

    …. As does your Trump support and your anti-Ukraine propaganda. If he was doing better in that war of his, Vlad would be a very happy man.

    Appalled (2d4616)

  372. @380. Predict more mass shootings will continue, instead, Rip- better odds. If you can’t stop smacking yourself in the head w/a 2X4 the hurt will continue.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  373. Abortion was for 50 years- until it wasn’t as of last week, Rip

    A made-up right that cannot be found anywhere in Constitution, DCSCA. Along the arc of American history, beginning in colonial times, no such right existed in law. Of the 415 years since the American colonies were founded, 50 years represents only 12% of our history.

    Even the Supreme Court can make mistakes. Sorry you can’t accept that.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  374. Predict more mass shootings will continue, instead, Rip-

    I agree.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  375. @382. Appalled: if you want to defend supporting corrupt Ukraine, go for it; if you want to deny Trump rfemains a popular political figure compared to his rivals, give it a go as well. Good luck:

    Ukraine ranked 122nd out of 180 countries in 2021, the second most corrupt in Europe, with Russia the most at 136.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

    Trump still tops them all:

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2022/07/trump-is-most-popular-political-figure.html

    Swing for the fences, Appalled.

    “Pity. ’cause I shaved very close this morning in preparation for getting smacked by you.” – George Patton [George C. Scott] ‘Patton’ 1970

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  376. @384. You do realize that all the rights are “made up” in the Constitution, Rip. Unless you believe it was crafted like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wunGF3oMA0

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  377. Removing the statues does not feed a desire to understand history and how we got where we are, but a desire to destroy….as seems to be the historical model too often.

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 7/4/2022 @ 10:04 am

    Like you, I’m for locales deciding what to display in their public squares and what not. But I don’t believe removing statuary, whether noxious ones such as Forrest and Jackson, or those like Washington and Lincoln which any sane American should celebrate, undermines historical understanding. If we’re relying on statues in parks to understand our history, we’re scr*wed. But museums do serve that purpose. That’s where cancelled monuments belong, not the scrap heap.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  378. DCSCA,

    As they sang back in the 30’s, Taint What You Do (It’s The Way That You Do It). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1jwHyErN-I

    You essentially use Ukraine’s real corruption to deny Ukraine’s nationhood or right to nationhood. That’s what a good propagandist does, I guess. Turns that frown upside down (if you’re Vlad)

    And you just love yourself some Trump. Not by asserting he is still the GOP’s most likely nominee (he, alas, is), but by rediculously enjoying the discomfiture of his opponents. To such an extent, that we know where your sympathies are.

    Appalled (2d4616)

  379. @389. Translation: chaff; you can’t defend your POV.

    Will be kind to you Appalled. When you spend time on the phone with a man in tears because his wife was murdered by rifle-wielding kid in a Colorado grocery store because she was simply there to buy some dinner; when you view the remains of what once was a lovely young woman who went to the movies and got a hole the size of your fist blown through her by a different kid wielding a rifle; when you spend time with and donate money to victims of that kind of lunacy in the ‘real world’ you arm chair ideologues chatter about today, get back to me. You and nk have posted advocacy for violence. Which saysmuch more about you two than me. I gots me $6.25/lb., burgers to cook. Celebrate the safe 4th that six Americans in Highland Park, Illinois cannot.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  380. The Supreme Court fires broadside against the Constitution

    …’Where this is headed is anyone’s guess. But you can bet both Russian President Vladimir Putin and China’s Xi Jinping are sitting back and watching as America implodes.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3544625-the-supreme-courts-broadside-against-the-constitution/

    =mike-drop=

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  381. Google’s home page today is unobjectionable — which hasn’t always been true on the 4th of July. (Bing’s home page is fine, as usual.)

    Now, if we can just get Google to follow the civil rights laws . . .

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  382. Nikki Haley has a degree in Accounting like AOC has a degree in Economics. Oy.

    A B.A. from Clemson, a college I’ve heard of. Which she got to run the (successful) family business. She had been keeping the books there since she was 13. Considering the nincompoop in the Oval Office who cannot seem to add or subtract, this is an improvement. AOC has a degree from Boston College, another non-diploma-mill.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  383. https://twitter.com/presidentbeb/status/1543957903471771650/photo/1

    But there is no “I” in “teamwork,” eh, Kamala?

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  384. I draw the line on statues on whether the honoree participated in an armed rebellion against the United States (thereby committing treason).

    Well, few rebels were actually convicted of treason or rebellion-related offenses. Lee was, but then Gerald Ford pardoned him.

    The problem with tearing down these statues is that there seems to be no boundary, as if those tearing them down want to eradicate ALL history.

    When they start attacking Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, you know that what they are really saying is that they hate America.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  385. 390

    There is nothing in nk’s response to you that was a threat. Unless you find a very ordinary and richly earned profanity threatening. My own philosophy “don’t stay anything online that would get you punched out in real life” is also not a threat. It’s a suggestion for more civil online discourse. And one you won’t follow.

    Your post was offensive and somebody was offended and cussed you out. Tough. You’d do the same thing tomorrow and probably will.

    As for your “chaff” comment, you didn’t defend your POV, or even contend I had misrepresented it.

    Appalled (f28793)

  386. Boston University not Boston College, way to bring down those Jesuits and Doug Flutie. She just covers the flank not covered by fellow alums Bill O’Reilly and Howard Stern.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  387. @391: I see you agree with that article. I reiterate #319.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  388. As for a gunman firing on an Independence parade, I am having a hard time thinking the guy was pro-Independence parades.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  389. @395. Have a copy of the Oath of Allegiance to the U.S. document my confederate relative, who ran the rebel hospital in Richmond, signed just days after the end of the war. So the rank and file didn’t have statues to salute just a piece of paper that accepted them back as citizens. But statues to generals and such really belong in museums in this century- but when erected, they were more meant to help bind up the wounds for the post war living. Today, they’re pigeon perches and don’t really mean much; but you’re right- where do you draw the line. Jefferson owned slaves but shuttering his memorial would be bad for the tourist biz in Washington.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  390. @398. And back at you w/#323.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  391. @396. Except there is.

    And my POV on Ukraine and Trump is clearly supported.

    Your chaff is showing– or rather, snowing. Nice try.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  392. #396

    Cite the threat and explain why it is one.

    Appalled (f641ad)

  393. Happy 4th of july! We celebrate independence day here in ameriKKKa with another mass shooting at a 4th of july parade in a jewish neighborhood. Wonder who did it?

    asset (c07992)

  394. @406. Pffft. Do your own homework, Biff.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  395. “President Joe Biden is a genuinely good man, but he has yet been unable to break through our national malady of denial, deceit and distrust.” – Pierre Delecto

    Good? Really?? And the roof of s station wagon is a GOOD place for the family pooch to ride cross country, too., eh, Pierre?

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  396. #405

    I’ve lost track. Is it my turn to say “is too” or “is not”? (Mic drop, oh dang it, the thing just landed on my ingrown toenail…)

    Appalled (5ae565)

  397. @407. Little wonder; See #390. When you’ve been tagged and bagged it hard to see in the dark. 😉

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  398. Shooter ID’d: ROBERT E. CRIMO III, 22.

    Here’s a SCOOP: beating on the newsies: this is on a Tribute Archive page:

    Robert “Bob” Crimo Sr. 88, of Highwood, Illinois passed away on October 26th, 2018 after a long and courageous battle with Alzheimer’s, with his family at his side. Beloved husband of the late Christine nee Caldarelli. Beloved son of the late Sam and Rose Crimo of Highland Park, Illinois, he was born December 23rd, 1929 in Highland Park, Illinois. He is preceded in death by brothers Sam “Chubby’ Crimo and Tony Crimo, sister Yolanda Whitehurst, and niece Patty Thompson

    Bob was a great family man who was always there for his family, his smile and warm presence will be forever missed. Also surviving are his sons Bob Jr. (Denise) of Highland Park, Paul of Highwood, and daughter Rosanne (Jeff) Wygodny of Chicago. Five grandchildren Bobby Crimo III, Sammy Crimo, Lynette Pesina, Lila and Jemma Wygodny.

    A very special thanks to our father’s caregiver, Bettsy Williams, her compassionate and caring ways went above and beyond. Our family was fortunate that our paths crossed that allowed her to care for our father in his final years, and up to his last day here on Earth. A real Angel! A visitation will be held on Saturday, November 3rd, 2018 from 1:00 pm until time of memorial service 3:00 pm, at Kelley and Spalding Funeral Home, 1787 Deerfield road, Highland Park, Illinois 60035. Burial on Monday, November 5th, 2018 at 11:00 am at Ascension Cemetery, Libertyville, Illinois. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Alzheimer’s Association Illinois Chapter, 255 North Michigan Ave. Floor 17, Chicago, Illinois 60601 https://alzfdn.org/. For info or directions please contact Kelley & Spalding Funeral Home at 847-831-4260.

    https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/3394384/Robert-E-Crimo-Sr

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  399. OMG- this shooter has this up on youtube– appears to be the same dude:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnmqIAGAtDY

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  400. Old school eyet…still don’t think it’s random…which orgs floats and members were passing by and who was in the review area at 10:15 am? Could be El Paso WalMart motivations as north HP and Highwood have gone from paisan to paisa. Maybe there needs to be a young man version of the Safe Haven laws with non prison institutions. May Highwood rise up for the beat down like East LA did with the Night Stalker.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  401. “But there is no “I” in “teamwork,” eh, Kamala?”

    You need to know where to look

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/104427285085051251/

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  402. It’s chilling I ride that train and pass through that town nearly every work day.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  403. I wonder if this guy made a threat on or near SAT June 26. A music/food fest in a nearby bank parking lot was cancelled for bad weather (predicted storms stayed south of the city proper as it turned out). Me and the daughter actually walked through the town to make something of that trip

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  404. I ask you, does this guy look like a mass shooter?

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  405. Person of Interest Identified in Highland Park Parade Mass Shooting
    ……….
    The gunman, who has been identified as 22-year-old Robert “Bobby” E Crimo III and whose location is currently unknown, was described by Highland Park police as a white man with a small build and “longer” black hair. He is wearing a white or blue T-shirt, according to Highland Park Police Cmdr. Chris O’Neill.

    Crimo, who police said is from the area but did not specify if he is from Highland Park, is believed to be driving a 2010 silver Honda Fit with the Illinois license plates DM80653.
    ………
    “He is considered armed and dangerous,” Covelli said. “The community should not approach him if they see him, know his whereabouts.”

    “All law enforcement agencies are working on apprehending this person of interest,” Covelli said. “Please understand that we have teams out actively looking, trying to apprehend this individual.”

    Covelli said the gunman shot into the parade with a high-powered rifle from a rooftop. He said police are working to locate the man.

    “All indications is he was discreet, and he was very difficult to see,” Covelli said.
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  406. Interesting 4th of july celebrations on the cable channels.

    asset (c07992)

  407. Well perhaps a house painter or related to some, Kev.

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  408. Looks like he belongs riding on a half pipe to me.

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  409. @DCSCA (c8baf8) — 7/4/2022 @ 1:26 pm

    Your whatabouting one unspeakable tragedy with another is grotesque. Try growing some empathy that doesn’t blow with the wind of your political priors.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  410. 384. You do realize that all the rights are “made up” in the Constitution, Rip.

    Ok, there is nothing written in the Constitution that specifically allows abortion.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  411. More like smoking a crack pipe.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  412. Like Trump, DCSCA lacks an empathy gene.

    Rip Murdock (565d20)

  413. @421: Written, not written. All the same thing.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  414. @415. Meh. Then watch his youtube video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnmqIAGAtDY

    And ask yourself if he’d vote for Biden, Trump— and keeps Vlad and Xi smiling. If that’s the future of America, it might be worth taking up nk’s suggestion, eating a bowlful and a checking out w/no luggage. 😉

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  415. So attempted to watch dcsca’s vid, but taken down as I’d figured. So he is a skateboarder.

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  416. @420. =yawn= When you grow up and deal with the real world, get back to me, kid.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  417. Last World War II Medal of Honor recipient to lie in honor at US Capitol
    Hershel W. “Woody” Williams, who was the last surviving Medal of Honor recipient from World War II, will lie in honor at the US Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announced Sunday.
    …….

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  418. White rapper (Awake the Rapper, make Google or whatever engine you use your friend at your convenience, too many downbeats and America skeptics).

    urbanleftbehind (d5b707)

  419. @426. It’s not taken down, Haiku. Can still play it. But it is very strange imagery– apparently some of the locations have his shooting lperch in it. The info on his family at the legacy page is still up, too.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  420. “1988 was 34 years ago. This is not my usual both 2000 and 1980 where 20 years ago whittering (though I am correct about that), this is a discussion about age and the Eternal Now and how the simple passage of time affects political analysis.

    I am going to use 18 as a baseline age here because that is US voting age. For anyone 52 years and younger, 1988 was the first Presidential election in which they could vote. That was when GHWB was elected President. You have to be 60 now to have voted for Reagan in 1980

    GHWB is the last Republican President to be elected without Democrats claiming his election was illegitimate. 2000 was 22 years ago. For anyone 40 and younger, every Republican President since they were eligible to vote has been considered illegitimate by both Dems and the press.

    For those of us upper end Gen X and older, it is difficult to internalize that Bill Clinton being President is as remote to Millennials and younger as, say, Nixon being President is to upper end Gen X. Sure, it happened but that’s history. Ancient history.

    2008 is 14 years ago. You would have to be at least 32 and then 28 to have voted for Obama. For younger Millennials and upper end Gen Z, that’s the President when they were kids and they maybe sorta remember that being a big thing.

    2016 is six years ago. You have to be at least 24 to have voted for Trump. The point of going through this chronology is to stress, as many others, that for the last 22 years, every Republican President has been considered illegitimate by large swathes of the press and public.

    If you are under 40, you grew up in a world in which a Republican being President was deemed per se illegitimate. You grew up in a world where what those illegitimate Presidents did was per se illegitimate. It is the air you breathed and the water you drank. This is what you know

    This is simply the truth. Bush was installed by the Supreme Court and then did *handwave* something wrong to be re-elected, after all, he shouldn’t have been President in the first place. Republicans play a game with the Electoral College, which is anti-democratic, to win.

    Every Republican President is wrong and everything they do is wrong, and Trump let Russians change votes to make him President so what he did was extra super wrong. Since everything they did is wrong, then every action they took is wrong and SCOTUS is illegitimate. It’s logic.

    It is irrelevant whether this is true. It is what two generations of people have been told. People believe this because why would those people who are the experts in politics say this if it wasn’t true? That’s what they are paid to do, that’s what they know, they wouldn’t lie.

    I comprehend the urge to eyeroll when the wailing starts about how SCOTUS is illegitimate because the justices were appointed by Presidents who did not win the popular vote and thus are illegitimate. It is eyeroll worthy. However. Enormous numbers of people who vote believe this.

    Many a pixel has been slain, and that’s just by me, decrying the total lack of knowledge of how the American electoral system works. Many more have been slain noting how destructive this is to public discourse. I am here to tell you that it will only get worse.

    Another part of my internet life is very Left indeed. I keep my mouth shut over there because that’s where I go to try to escape politics. I am here to tell you that the Kids These Days do not understand what Dobbs did. They believe, utterly, that abortion was just banned.

    They believe that Republicans are an existential threat to democracy and that Republicans should be banned from all manner of things, practicing medicine, practicing law, going to college at all, holding jobs, partaking in society at large. Because Republicans are evil and cheat.

    A very few people there know that I have a JD and I was asked privately to explain what Dobbs meant. When I told those people that Dobbs meant states decided abortion laws and that CA and NY now have some of the most permissive laws in the world, I was met with shock.

    Why? Because all the news sources they consume told them otherwise. I was accused of lying. I was accused of making it up. And when they went and checked and found out I was correct, the utter cognitive dissonance was painful to behold. Because these sources they trust lied.

    The response was not to question worldview and whether those sources were lying to them about other matters. The response was ego defense. Okay well this is wrong but TX banned and that’s what the rest of the country will do and they weren’t lying, they were just upset!

    That is the mental barrier with which messaging that’s not fully of the Left, let alone being of the Right, is up against. Two generations of being told that Republicans are evil cheaters who aren’t a legitimate political party. Two generations of no civics education, not really.

    People don’t like to question priors because doing so means admitting you did not interpret the world correctly and the ego will defend against that. It’s been +/- 18 years since I’ve had to admit my view of Middle Eastern geopolitics was absolutely wrong. I’m still bitter.

    We discuss Othering and that is also a problem. But there are two generations of Americans for whom a baseline worldview is that if the Republicans win, that can be ignored because it’s not legitimate. And that I don’t see changing. It’s only going to get uglier from here.”

    https://twitter.com/alexthechick/status/1541391823075164163

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  421. Ok, there is nothing written in the Constitution that specifically allows abortion.

    Nor is there about pooping, shaving, milking cows, rooting for the Cubbies other ‘freedoms of choice.’ More mustard or not for pretzel, Rip? Oh, right- that’s a freedom of choice hat’s it’s not in the Constitution, either.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  422. Haiku, that kid’s video looks like an outtake of a drug scene from Breaking Bad.

    We’ve got a seriouis lost youth problem going on for sure.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  423. “ This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.”

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  424. @434. Yeah, they just took it down here, too. But it was up and running earlier when I posted before. It was a strange portrait of lost youth– skateboards, coathangers, Starbucks and more skateboards… if this is what’s growing up now in midwest suburbia Xi and Vlad are salivating. Other commenters recognized the location and building from where he was shooting from, too– the ladder to the building roof was chilling.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  425. Happy 4th of July to everyone not so poisoned by tribalism to celebrate their country.

    Time123 (f878bd)

  426. @431: More to the point, your understanding of historical figures depends greatly on what they media shows you. Reagan, for example is often portrayed as a doddering old fool with palsy, rather than the man who spoke to America in a happier time. It is amazing how little of that comity remains.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  427. I comprehend the urge to eyeroll when the wailing starts about how SCOTUS is illegitimate because the justices were appointed by Presidents who did not win the popular vote and thus are illegitimate. It is eyeroll worthy. However. Enormous numbers of people who vote believe this.

    The court majority s supposed to be illegitimate because Mitch McConnell first, pushed an appointment past the election and then advanced one to before the election and because, supposedly, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh promised not to overrule Roe v Wade. And Roe is suoposed to be the norm.

    Another part of my internet life is very Left indeed. I keep my mouth shut over there because that’s where I go to try to escape politics. I am here to tell you that the Kids These Days do not understand what Dobbs did. They believe, utterly, that abortion was just banned.

    They are soon going to find out that’s not so – in fact this article says they already did.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  428. Now Biden is telling them another lie: That Congress has the power to pass natonal abortion legislation — or that there could be the votes to enact Roe in any case.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  429. @95, conservative’s claims of patriotism and love for our traditions stopped sounding sincere when they rallied behind a man that tried to steel the presidency by encouraging an armed mob of his support to attack the capital to halt the peaceful transfer of power.

    Time123 (0f8b03) — 7/2/2022 @ 10:44 am

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  430. Guess that leaves you behind…

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  431. @437. “There you go again.”

    That’s not true, Kevin. Reagan Cultists pitch the crisp Reaganaurics, Reaganoptics rhetoric clips freely:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYeNuISN4Dc

    My God, watch this sweet crap and you’ll see the 80s in a nutshell — and get diabetes. ‘Rawhide’ was an actor and a consummate communicator who knew how to deliver the lines quilled for him- from Point du Hoc to the Berlin Wall to the living rooms of Americans hours after Challenger exploded.

    The 80’s were happy times– if you lived life on a credit card.

    Reaganomics. 😉

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  432. Psycho may be ‘TiFa

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/Screenshot%20(2473).jpg

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  433. RIP Vladimir Zelenko

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/us/vladimir-zelenko-dead.html

    From lung cancer, wwhich he already had in 2018, when he had a lung removed.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  434. Time123 – And a happy 4th of July to you, and to everyone who shares your patriotism.

    Earlier, I attended out local parades*, and was happy with what I saw. Example: This year, as in the past, there was a large Falun Gong contingent. As usual I was both impressed, and distressed, at their discipline. I don’t share their beliefs — to say the least — but I am happy that we are able to tolerate them, unlike the ChiComs. That contrast says something good about this nation. And the tolerance that I saw will annoy all those who want us to fight each other, either literally, or in bitter political wars.

    *There are two, first, my favorite, the kids parade (which includes a lot of dogs), and then the main parade which includes veterans groups, political groups, unicycle riders, a man dressed as a dinosaur, Kenworth trucks, DeLoreans, Model T’s, and many others.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  435. BBQing on the 4th is a wonderful time in the backyard, Spare ribs rubbed down with a Kentucky Bourbon Glaze finish.
    Americana at its finest boys and girls. Happy 4th.

    mg (8cbc69)

  436. encouraging an armed mob of his support to attack the capital to halt the peaceful transfer of power.

    That’s about as wrong as saying that Dobbs outlawed abortion. Trump did not encourage an attack – he wanted to go there to speak to them, and then go inside and lobby Congress. Mark Meadows was worried and lied to Trump – later wrote a book that claimed Trump never was serious about going there – and it was he who tried to tamper with Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony – not Trump.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  437. Meadows is still getting or rather recently got – money Trump controls.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  438. WGN @ CBS Chicago reports dude is in custody.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UuEYl3t9U

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  439. CNN reports 5 people shot dead in Highland Park, Illinois mass shooting on July 4.
    Happy Birthday, America.
    … and Putin smiled.

    You’re Putin’s biggest fan on this site, so if Putin’s smiling, you’re grinning right along. You’re not so different from any other un-American unpatriotic fascist, DC.

    BTW, the shooter could have easily been a radicalized Bernie Bro, a la the shooting of Congressmen at a baseball practice. But no, he’s a rally-attending, Pepe shirt wearing Trumpist.

    Photos emerged that appear to show him in a Pepe the Frog shirt and at a Trump rally. Pepe the Frog is a symbol associated with the alt-right.

    And here. No word on the state of his mental health, but he’s capable enough to produce rap music that gets millions of clicks. He’s lucky Illinois doesn’t have a death penalty.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  440. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZp5-w-fZ8
    GW reading the Declaration of independence.

    mg (8cbc69)

  441. …he wanted to go there to speak to them, and then go inside and lobby Congress.
    He did want to speak to his zealous fans, Sammy, but he didn’t say he wanted to “lobby Congress”. He was more than clear that he wanted Pence to cancel millions of certified votes and maybe replace them with fraudulent Electors.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  442. Now Biden is telling them another lie: That Congress has the power to pass national abortion legislation

    Raich and similar argue that they can.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  443. @451. =yawn= And the RINO blows his horn…

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  444. The only way I can read DCSCA’s scribbles are to imagine Bozo the Clown speaking them while trying to stand on a basketball.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  445. No word on the state of his mental health

    “We may never know why he did it.” And beware Photoshops.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  446. These shooters of late seem to be the same kind of young loser that straps on a bomb vest in the Middle East.

    We should stop reporting their names, try them with hoods on, execute the guilty with a .22 to the back of their head, then cremate the remains, never acknowledging their names.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  447. @456. You can read, too? Wow. But you’re so good at painting mental pictures, Kev.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  448. @455. Zelensky: Ukraine losing ‘60 to 100 soldiers per day’ as Russia advances in Donbas 6/1/22

    https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/zelensky-says-ukraine-losing-60-to-100-soldiers-per-day/

    Can’t be from desertion:

    Ukrainian males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country, Zelensky says in new declaration

    https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-24-22-intl/h_4309a4916d57670f85519210a07fb2c9

    Now THAT’S the kind of “democracy” Adolf could love.

    Uncle Z Wants You, Armchair RINOS!

    CAMO UP, Paulie! Leave the comfy chair and join the fight!

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  449. These shooters of late seem to be the same kind of young loser that straps on a bomb vest in the Middle East.

    More like incels.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  450. That, too. A specific kind of young angry loser.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  451. And here. No word on the state of his mental health, but he’s capable enough to produce rap music that gets millions of clicks. He’s lucky Illinois doesn’t have a death penalty.

    NBC reports he had some wicked rap crap… cults of death– and an interest in =drumroll= Budd Dwyer.

    Now there’s a tell.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  452. These shooters of late seem to be the same kind of young loser that straps on a bomb vest in the Middle East.

    That should tell you a lot– about supply side economics and the collapsing middle class.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  453. @420. =yawn= When you grow up and deal with the real world, get back to me, kid.

    DCSCA (c8baf8) — 7/4/2022 @ 3:35 pm

    When you can explain how deflecting one human tragedy with a protracted emotional appeal to a different one is consistent with any principled view of the real world I’ll consider your notion of growing up.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  454. Still haven’t camoed up either, eh lurker?

    Uncle Z Wants You!

    Join the fight.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  455. Let’s be clear.
    DC supports a war criminal who is conducting an immoral and illegal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign state, a war criminal who launched a “sweeping and systematic” cyber and propaganda attack on the United States in 2016, and who never had a legitimate casus belli to attack Ukraine, from 2014 forward. Putin may not be a declared enemy, but he’s still an enemy of the United States and what we stand for. Others may have different opinions, but to me, being in Vlad’s corner like this is unpatriotic and un-American.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  456. Still haven’t camoed up either, eh lurker?

    Uncle Z Wants You!

    Join the fight.

    DCSCA (c8baf8) — 7/4/2022 @ 5:52 pm

    WTF are you talking about? Ukraine wants my broken body as much as Antifa (The Proud Boys? — hard to tell which you prefer) wants yours. But stick with that line of gibberish. It’s at least a better look for you than the blood-soaked whatabouting.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  457. DC and Mr. Bausman appear to have things in common, including blaming the Ukrainian victim and absolving the Russian aggressor.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  458. #467 – Paul, for me the only remaining interesting thing about DCCCP is its motive(s). And there, I suppose its ranting about Reagan may be a clue. If you think that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a disaster, then you may well side with a evil man like Putin (however incompetent), as he tries to put it back together. At whatever cost. And you will attack the man who called the Soviet Union an evil empire.

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  459. he only remaining interesting thing about DCCCP is its motive(s).

    The piece of sh!t’s motives are the same as the motives of a pile of dog crap on the sidewalk. He just wants to dirty up this site. And drive away other commenters. I’ve been feeling sorry for the pathetic turd, but too much is enough.

    nk (9338bd)

  460. @467. Let’s be clear: the RINO blows his horn; playing the tune ‘Slava Ukraini’ and backing one of the most corrupt regimes in Eastern Europe- other than Russia- with armchair rhetoric and support for borrowing billions of dollars from America’s biggest adversary, the PRC, burdening American taxpayer indebtedness further, and literally “giving it” to said corrupt country of non-taxpaying U.S. citizens, denying men ages 18 to 60, the very freedom to leave their country a true ‘democracy’ would embrace; proudly funneling aid to a Bugs Moran as he fight a losing gang war with Al Capone.

    Putin may not be a declared enemy, but he’s still an enemy of the United States and what we stand for.

    Which, of course, would be news to the United States government and NASA, who’ve partnered with Russia’s Roscosmos space agency for years; been paying Putin’s Russian government hundreds of millions of dollars for rides up and down to the ISS aboard Russia’s reliable Soyuz spacecraft; depending on Russian Progress supply ships as well, due to America’s failure to invest and develop a replacement for the space shuttle retired over a decade ago; and has been in partnership with Putin’s Russia to literally operate the $150 billion International Space Station for the lifetime of its operation– and wishes to continue that partnership:

    Top NASA official says space station partnership with Russia ‘still working’ despite Ukraine conflict

    “We are not getting any indications at a working level that our [Russian] counterparts are not committed to ongoing operations,” NASA Associate Administrator Kathy Lueders said… https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/28/nasa-iss-partnership-with-russia-working-despite-ukraine-conflict.html

    “Oops!” – Rick Perry

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  461. @471. Nobody cares what you BBQed for Independence Day dinner, nk.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  462. SO, there’s a recording of the gunfire today, and it doesn’t sound like actual full-auto, but like some kind of mechanical trigger-pilling device, like maybe a bump stock.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/07/04/us/highland-park-shooting-july-4-parade/5eb19670-759b-5a1c-a5a1-d513eaf4346e?smid=url-share

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  463. The scumbag drove DRJ away. And it really bothered me. But I thought to myself: This is Patterico’s site. And Patterico is closer to DRJ than I am. So if it doesn’t bother Patterico, what right do I have to be bothered by it?

    Well, I was wrong. Like I already said, too much is enough. I leave him to you all with my best wishes for the luck he brings you.

    nk (9338bd)

  464. @470. Jimbo, remember who replaced Gorby when the USSR went out of business? Yeltsin. And who did Yeltsin choose to join his government? Putin. BTW, where did you spend your Bush ‘Peace Dividend’- Macy’s or JC Penney’s?

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  465. @475. “Freedom of choice” is nice, isn’t it, nk. Ask women about it.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  466. I’m sorry to say I thought of another possible evil motive for the Highland Park killer. Highland Park is a heavily Jewish suburb:

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  467. There is nothing in the constitution about slavery other then 3/5 person for census. Until that is the civil war. Civil war again?

    asset (eeae4d)

  468. @478. His social media profile and the platforms he was using are revealing a “death cult” fetish, Jimbo, not far from what the Columbine kids were into. The stuff is surfacing pretty fast. He even referenced Budd Dwyer. If you don’t remember his fate- look him up.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  469. @479. Civil war again?

    That’s the musings in The Hill opinion piece; we’re at a near 1861 boil:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3544625-the-supreme-courts-broadside-against-the-constitution/

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  470. @481 This is what happens when a minority trys and controls the majority as it did before the civil war.

    asset (eeae4d)

  471. Well, control is a strong term. More influence. SCOTUS is in a rare alignment now- like the planets sometimes- seldom has its secularism seemed scuttled as it appears. But in time it will pass. For these times, it is essentially the Alamo for modern ideological conservatism under siege, surrounded by leftists and an angry, deeply rooted populism. It’ll change again… but it will take time.

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  472. Supposedly over at ace they got a picture of this guy on twitter at a trump rally waving a trump flag.

    asset (eeae4d)

  473. ‘Fraid I have to agree, nk

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  474. @485. Heat; kitchen. Disappointed in you, K. And you a devoted Nixon man, too:

    “The finest steel has to go through the hottest fire.” – Richard Nixon

    DCSCA (c8baf8)

  475. “Paul, for me the only remaining interesting thing about DCCCP is its motive(s). And there, I suppose its ranting about Reagan may be a clue.”

    Why does someone join a site where he disagrees with the primary posters (Patrick, Dana, JVW) and pretty much all of the commenters…fundamentally….on most issues? Attention? Obsession? A free site to troll and spin people up out of boredom? Striking out at ideological conservatives like Don Quixote lunging at windmills? Hey, we see our fair share of bad-faith argumentative types….sink the yachts indeed. He’s just on a hamster wheel and can’t get off…pffft…yawn….mike-drop….ROFLMAOPIP….spin and troll…spin and troll. To paraphrase Dan Crenshaw, our resident Putin-a-phile needs a girlfriend to get him off the wheel…..

    AJ_Liberty (c82e21)

  476. @487. Disagree. But if you’re advocating stovepiping, that’s precisely what you rail against in media- w/MSNBC, CNN and Fox all at opposing POVs and huddling in the same tent, AJ.

    DCSCA (5db635)

  477. 2 police officers shot following Philadelphia fireworks show

    Two police officers were shot near the conclusion of a Fourth of July fireworks show in Philadelphia. One officer assigned to highway patrol received a graze wound to the forehead, police said. The round stopped in the hat of the 36-year-old, who has14 years of service.

    The other officer, who was assigned to the Montgomery County Bomb Squad, sustained a gunshot wound to the right shoulder. The 44-year old, who has 16 years of service, was present to work security at the event, as was the other injured officer. They both were transferred to the Jefferson University Hospital for treatment, according to WPVI, and police said they have been released. – source, https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officers-shot-philadelphia-fireworks-show/story?id=86215640

    DCSCA (5db635)

  478. Army Bases That Honor Confederate Traitors Could Soon Be Renamed for These Heroes
    During the Jim Crow era, nine Southern Army bases were named for treasonous Confederate generals who fought to preserve slavery and white supremacy. Now a commission established by Congress has suggested new names for the bases that “embody the best of the United States Army and America.”

    Fort Bragg in North Carolina would be renamed Fort Liberty, if the recommendations are approved by Congress. The other bases would honor some of the Army’s most distinguished heroes. ……

    Fort Johnson (Fort Polk, La.)
    Sgt. Henry Johnson

    Pvt. Henry Johnson deployed to Europe during World War I in a storied Black regiment known as the Harlem Hellfighters. …….
    ………
    Private Johnson threw grenades until he had no more left to throw. Then he fired his rifle until it jammed. Then he clubbed enemy soldiers with the butt of his rifle until it split apart. Then he hacked away at the enemy with his bolo knife.

    After the Germans retreated, daylight revealed that Private Johnson had killed four enemy soldiers and wounded an estimated 10 to 20. He suffered 21 wounds in combat.

    ………. Almost a century later, President Barack Obama posthumously awarded Sergeant Johnson the Medal of Honor.

    Fort Walker (Fort A.P. Hill, Va.)
    Dr. Mary Edwards Walker

    Dr. Mary Edwards Walker is the only woman ever awarded a Medal of Honor. A skilled surgeon, she volunteered during the Civil War because the Army refused to commission a woman as a medical officer.
    ………

    Fort Barfoot (Fort Pickett, Va.)
    Col. Van Barfoot

    On May 23, 1944, in the foothills of the Italian Alps, Sgt. Van Barfoot single-handedly silenced three machine-gun nests, disabled a German tank with a bazooka, blew up an artillery cannon with a demolition charge and took 17 enemy soldiers prisoner.

    In addition to everything else that day, he rescued two grievously wounded American soldiers, leading them about a mile to safety.
    ……….
    He served 34 years in the Army, including tours in Korea and Vietnam. Later in life he again drew national attention for successfully fighting his homeowners association to keep an American flag flying in his front yard.

    Fort Gregg-Adams (Fort Lee, Va.)
    Lt. Gen. Arthur J. Gregg & Lt. Col. Charity Adams Earley

    Fort Gregg-Adams would honor two trailblazing African-American support officers, Lt. Gen. Arthur J. Gregg and Lt. Col. Charity Adams Earley. The naming commission noted the “too-often-unheralded excellence” of logistics and support units, many of which are to this day staffed primarily with Black troops.
    ……….

    Fort Cavazos (Fort Hood, Texas)
    Gen. Richard E. Cavazos

    Richard E. Cavazos was the first Hispanic American to become a brigadier general and the first Hispanic American to become a four-star general. He received three major military decorations for valor in combat: a Silver Star and a Distinguished Service Cross for his actions in Korea, and a second Distinguished Service Cross for an episode in Vietnam.

    In February 1953 during the Korean War, Lieutenant Cavazos charged through enemy mortar and gunfire, with “complete disregard for his personal safety,” to retrieve a wounded enemy soldier, earning the young officer a Silver Star. Three months later, Lieutenant Cavazos led three separate charges on enemy positions and returned to the field five times to rescue his wounded men — earning him his first Distinguished Service Cross.
    ………

    Fort Eisenhower (Fort Gordon, Ga.)
    Dwight D. Eisenhower, general of the Army

    Dwight D. Eisenhower served as the supreme commander of allied forces in Africa and Europe during World War II — leading the liberation of North Africa, the invasion of Italy and the D-Day landings. After the war, he was elected the 34th president of the United States, serving from 1953 to 1961.
    ………

    Fort Novosel (Fort Rucker, Ala.)
    Chief Warrant Officer Michael Novosel Sr.

    In two tours of duty in Vietnam, Michael Novosel Sr. rescued more than 5,500 wounded soldiers as a medevac pilot, earning the Medal of Honor for one particularly heroic episode. One of those rescued soldiers was his own son, Michael Novosel Jr., an Army aviator whose helicopter was shot down in 1970. (A week later, Michael Jr. returned the favor, rescuing his father from a disabled helicopter.)
    ……….
    In one rescue mission in 1969, Mr. Novosel rescued 29 South Vietnamese soldiers under heavy enemy fire. He and his crew were forced out of the landing zone six times and had to “circle and return from another direction to land and extract additional troops,” according to his Medal of Honor citation.

    By the end of the day, his helicopter had been riddled with bullets.…….
    ……….

    Fort Moore (Fort Benning, Ga.)
    Lt. Gen. Harold G. Moore and Julia Moore
    ……….
    On Nov. 14, 1965, Colonel Moore led his 450 troops to the infamous Landing Zone X-Ray, where they were ambushed by North Vietnamese soldiers who outnumbered the Americans 12 to 1. Bloody hand-to-hand combat ensued, but Colonel Moore and his men held their positions for three days. Colonel Moore had vowed that he would leave no one behind. He kept his promise, and his actions earned him the Distinguished Service Cross.

    At the same time, Ms. Moore offered emotional support to the families of the dead and wounded at Fort Benning.……
    ………..

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  479. Base Naming Commission report.

    Rip Murdock (ca33fe)

  480. Trumpster opens fire on 4th of july parade in illinois. Pictures of him wearing trump flag at trump rally.

    asset (eeae4d)

  481. miley_00000

    mg (8cbc69)

  482. https://www.newsweek.com/impeach-clarence-thomas-petition-hits-1m-signatures-1721317
    never trumpers and a modern day lynching
    you people are pathetic

    mg (8cbc69)

  483. asset @479: Slavery is also alluded to in the US constitution in the fugitive slave clause and the absence of a power to prohibit the importation of slaves until 1808.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  484. The thing that sort of seems to make sense about DCSCA is that the thing he cares about monst is space travel, and he’s afraid that hostility toward Russia will impede it because the US is not doing it alone.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  485. The prohibition on msles leaaving zukraine seems like a very stupid unnecessary thing.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  486. #497

    Can it be that simple? I’ve never understood the passive aggressive Putin love, but this makes sense. Has Biden been an enemy of the space program? That would complete the explanation of DSCA’s DSCA-ness.

    Appalled (932e1f)

  487. So NPR, ending a 30+ year tradition, decided not to read the Declaration of Independence on the 4th of July this year.

    Guess they just weren’t feeling very patriotic.

    Can someone explain to me, why do they exist?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  488. Now that’s a rough weekend…

    “Florida teen’s leg to be amputated after weekend of shark attacks”

    —- Washington Post

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  489. Tell it, Joe!

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5010607/user-clip-america-nation-defined-single-word

    I guess America is “Asufutimaehaehfutbw”

    Colonel Haiku (174b48)

  490. Just got off the phone w/my victim’ rights friend; GoFundMe accounts are in the process of being set up for the Highland Park victims and their families today. The presser w/authorities this morning was professional and thorough. A planned attack; women’s clothing disguise- used an affixed fire escape ladder for roof access; more tghan 70 shots fired; dropped weapon like Oswald… who he apparently admired; another rifle found in car when arrested; more weapons found at his residence. This was one, sick, lost youth who lived through a social media-fueled ‘death cult.’ And you know he’s not the only one like this in the country. This generation has a serious ‘lost youth’ problem– and it’s the fault of parents and adults to have let this fester out of control.

    DCSCA (d6e8b5)

  491. It’ll make ya feel better… https://youtu.be/Td2Bk8qQJZE

    Colonel Haiku (760385)

  492. RIP Bradford Freeman (97). Last surviving member of Easy Company, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  493. Some Trump news from Georgia:

    https://www.ajc.com/politics/fulton-grand-jury-subpoenas-giuliani-graham-trump-confidantes/POUNSTTUXZDGDB3D5LKA7TIQQM/

    Love to hear Lindsey Graham’s testimony, as this is outside the 1-6 commitee universe.

    Appalled (7224d4)

  494. https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-introduce-the-raise-gas-prices-even-higher-and-make-more-kids-trans-bill

    Democrats Proudly Introduce The ‘Raise Gas Prices Even Higher And Make More Kids Trans’ Bill

    With midterm elections fast approaching, Democrats are rushing to pass key elements of their legislative agenda before they’re voted out of office in November. To serve that goal, Democrats proudly unveiled the “Raise Gas Prices Even Higher And Make More Kids Trans” bill on the steps of the Capitol this morning.

    “We are very proud of this bill, as it shows the American people that their priorities match our priorities, which are to raise gas prices to at least $15 per gallon and make all the kids change their genders with puberty blockers and surgery,” said Senator Chuck Schumer. “This is what the American people want. These are the issues families sitting at the kitchen table every night are concerned about. This is why we were sent here. Let’s get it done!”

    It’s believable. I see why fact check sites have to constantly fact check them.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  495. A rare miss from the bee

    Davethulhu (4335be)

  496. S. Ct. Marshal Asks for Enforcement of Md. Residential Picketing Ban; but that Ban Is Likely Unconstitutional

    The Marshal of the Supreme Court has asked the Governor of Maryland and the Montgomery County Chief Executive to enforce Maryland’s and Montgomery County’s residential picketing bans “outside of the homes of Supreme Court Justices who live in” those jurisdictions. And content-neutral restrictions on residential picketing are generally constitutional……

    But the Maryland law appears to be unconstitutional under the Supreme Court’s decision in Carey v. Brown (1980), because it’s not content-neutral. The law (which bans assemblies conducted “in a manner that disrupts a person’s right to tranquility in the person’s home”) has an exception for “picketing or assembly in connection with a labor dispute,” and Carey held that a similar exception in an Illinois statute for “picketing of a place of employment involved in a labor dispute” made the statute unconstitutionally content-based.

    As with the Illinois statute in Carey, the Maryland statute “accords preferential treatment to the expression of views on one particular subject; information about labor disputes may be freely disseminated, but discussion of all other issues is restricted:

    While broadly permitting all peaceful labor picketing notwithstanding the disturbances it would undoubtedly engender, the statute makes no attempt to distinguish among various sorts of nonlabor picketing on the basis of the harms they would inflict on the privacy interest. The apparent overinclusiveness and underinclusiveness of the statute’s restriction would seem largely to undermine appellant’s claim that the prohibition of all nonlabor picketing can be justified by reference to the State’s interest in maintaining domestic tranquility.

    ……..
    The Montgomery County ordinance (§ 32-23), however, is likely constitutional, because it has no content-based labor picketing exception. In this respect, it’s like the content-neutral residential picketing ban upheld in Frisby v. Schultz (1988), and can indeed be enforced, as to homes in Montgomery County.

    Some might ask: Why doesn’t the federal government go after the picketers under the federal law related to picketing the homes of judges, jurors, witnesses, or court officers (which is likely constitutional given Cox v. Louisiana (1965))?
    ………
    (Under 18 U.S.C. § 1507), it turns out, is limited to such picketing engaged in “with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty.” Such an intent may be hard to prove, especially after the decision has been handed down, and the Justices have already discharged their duties.
    ……….

    Related:

    S. Ct. Marshal Asks for Enforcement of Va. Residential Picketing Ban; Can That Ban Be Rendered Constitutional?
    ……….
    Now the Virginia law also has the same labor picketing exception that the Court has said makes a residential ban unconstitutionally content-based; but the letter cites to a 1989 Virginia Attorney General’s opinion that argues that the labor picketing exception could just be struck down, and the rest of the statute could be upheld:
    ………
    Indeed, in a 1995 case, a Virginia trial court refused to do that with regard to this very statute (and expressly rejected the Virginia AG’s opinion I quoted above):
    ……….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  497. Fulton County has subpoenaed Trump’s Dream Team of lawyers who ignored the Constitution and ECA and instead told him what he wanted to hear. I assume Mark Meadows has been or will be on the subpoena list.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  498. “LOOK WHO’S HIGHEST PAID ON MOST EXPENSIVE WHITE HOUSE STAFF EVER: Dr. Francis Collins, the former National Institutes for Health Director who presided over it while he and thousands of other NIHers got millions in secret royalty payments, according to yet another bombshell report from Open the Books. Now he’s getting $300K a year as Acting Science Adviser to Biden.”

    https://instapundit.com/529737/

    Colonel Haiku (760385)

  499. Boris Johnson may be on his way out.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  500. @500 Npr is mostly funded by government ;but now takes some advertising and of course donations. It would be tough and their would be cut backs but it could still survive.

    asset (42d6b1)

  501. Bad news for republicans 3 latest generic ballot polls now favor democrats as apathetic democrats furious over loss of roe and gun violence. Because of are corrupt political system negating popular vote (trump is right on this one) and gerrymandering republican may still win house.

    asset (42d6b1)

  502. So much for the possible future Sadiq Khan vs. Prithi Patel PM matchup.

    urbanleftbehind (4b0be9)

  503. So much for the possible future Sadiq Khan vs. Prithi Patel PM matchup.

    You could still see that if Johnson resigns.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  504. @500 Npr is mostly funded by government ;but now takes some advertising and of course donations. It would be tough and their would be cut backs but it could still survive.

    asset (42d6b1) — 7/5/2022 @ 1:40 pm

    Not so; NPR doesn’t receive any federal funding directly, though member stations receive some from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (8% of their total revenues) and an additional 4% from other governments. NPR itself is a cooperative owned by its member stations.

    Revenues in 2021:

    Corporate sponsorships: 37%
    Core and programming fees from member stations: 32%
    Grants from institutions and non-profits 12%
    Other revenues: 7%
    Distribution and Satellite Interconnection 5%
    Distribution from NPR Foundation & bequests 5%
    Return on investments 2%

    NPR Consolidated Financial Statements.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  505. Sometimes polls give absurd results but people don’t realize it.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

    LGBT Straight/Heterosexual No response

    Generation Z (born 1997-2003) 20.8 75.7 3.5

    Millennials (born 1981-1996) 10.5 82.5 7.1

    Generation X (born 1965-1980) 4.2 89.3 6.5

    Baby boomers (born 1946-1964) 2.6 90.7 6.8

    Traditionalists (born before 1946) 0.8 92.2 7.1

    Now the doctrine is that nothing can make anyone LGTBQ etc, and they assume nobody is lying so as to make themselves non-straight, so this rise of the LGTBQ population up to 20% in the latest generation, is interpreted as meaning people are more willing to admit it.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  506. 497. 499. Appalled @499

    Has Biden been an enemy of the space program? That would complete the explanation of DSCA’s DSCA-ness.

    I don’t think Biden cancelled anything Trump gave the go-ahead to, but Trump was a big promoter of space – he even started rthe U>nited States SPACE FORCE

    Biden’s a little pro-space himself. He even requested a moon rock to be displayed in the Oval Office And why shouldn’t he support it? It’s more money to spend.

    https://time.com/5933447/biden-space-nasa

    The Biden Presidency Could Fundamentally Change the U.S. Space Program

    …. When it came to space, Biden didn’t say much. He did issue an anodyne statement congratulating SpaceX on its success in flying astronauts to the ISS last May….

    /….The problem is in the dollars. Trump increased NASA’s budget steadily over the course of his four years in office, from $19.65 billion in 2017 to $23.3 billion in 2021. That still represents relative pan scrapings, however, with space agency funding making up just 0.4% of the national budget compared to 4% back in the mid-1960s. What’s more, the Trump Administration requested $3.2 billion in the 2021 budget for development of the Human Landing System (HLS), the Artemis project’s crewed lunar lander—but the House of Representatives agreed to just $600 million. You can hardly touch down on the moon without a vehicle to take you there, and there is no particular reason to see greater funding for one forthcoming given the current makeup of the House.

    ,,,,,One way around both the money and engineering challenges might be for NASA to partner more closely with private industry. The Space Launch System (SLS), NASA’s new 36-story moon rocket, has been in start-stop development for more than 15 years and has still not flown. It, along with NASA’s Orion crew capsule, were set for a first, uncrewed flight around the moon in November of this year, but the failure of a “hot-fire” engine test on Jan. 16 will almost certainly set that back.

    Meantime, private industry—most notably SpaceX, with its Crew Dragon spacecraft and its Falcon Heavy rocket—already has hardware available that could be pressed into service to speed the path to the moon. SLS is a bigger rocket, which could get a lunar orbiter and lander into space with a single launch, while it might take two Falcon Heavies to do the job—but the Falcon heavies are flying and the SLS isn’t, so the advantage would be clear. “I think there is a consensus on returning to the moon and a need to involve private partners,” says Scott Pace, a former member of the Trump Administration’s NSC and a professor at George Washington University. Now here is where Russia might come in — the US is now not likely to partner with Russia, and will Democrats like private space exploration?

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  507. The CDC makes political (in the general meaning) decisions>

    1. Go ahead for child Covid vaccine even though it likely will not help and could even make things worse because its formulated against an old variant, so an infection will stimulate the production of many wrong antibodies..

    2. Won’t push something better and cheaper in the long run than N95 masks for hospitals

    3. Decides to forgo the usual testing (correct decision) for vaccines against new variants.

    Upshot: If they have nothing at all that at least pretends to deal with something they endorse it. Then everything else has to compete.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  508. RIP actor Joe Turkel (94). Played the bartender in The Shining (as well as The Killing and Paths of Glory, all directed by Stanley Kubrick) and the head of Tyrell Corp. in Blade Runner.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  509. Sammy,

    The so called identification of sexuality proves peer pressure and society are creating homosexuals, not genetics.

    NJRob (4bcee8)

  510. @519. Biden’s a little pro-space himself…. When it came to space, Biden didn’t say much.

    Lest you forget, Dubya proposed Constellation and after voicing initial support, the Obama/Biden administration cratered it. And Joey was the head of the space council then.

    He said very little, Sammy; and what he quipped recently was not much at all yet spoke volumes; considering ILC Dover , the prime NASA contractor for spacesuits since the Gemini/Apollo and into Shuttle days– is based in DELAWARE:

    “So, you know, lots of luck on his trip to the moon,” Biden said of Musk, the world’s richest man. June 3, 2023

    He’s a frigging idiot; and all Biden press events, speeches and comments are summed up here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOHMg7IkzHU

    DCSCA (31a734)

  511. DCSSA:

    “So, you know, lots of luck on his trip to the moon,” Biden said of Musk, the world’s richest man. June 3, 2023

    He’s a frigging idiot;

    It’s Mars where Musk wants to send people to – not sure he wants to goo himself – I think it’s been said it would bea one-way trip.

    Sammy Finkelnan (b7dc9b)

  512. @525. China slams NASA chief’s claim that it is planning to ‘take over’ the Moon

    https://news.yahoo.com/china-slams-nasa-chief-claim-183538864.html

    _______

    China slams NASA chief’s claim that it is planning to ‘take over’ the Moon

    https://www.newsweek.com/china-plans-moonbase-five-year-space-power-nasa-competition-space-race-1680584

    DCSCA (acb4ae)

  513. A 7 oz package of Moderna pasta went from 69 cents to 89 cents to $1.09 to $1.29 to $1.39 in about a year. Meanwhile weekly specials at Shoprite for various brands in boxes stay at 99 cents with the Shoprire card (although in the past it’s been 88 cents and even 77 cents occasionally.

    Sammy Finkelman (b434ee)


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