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5/16/2022

After The Buffalo Attack, It Takes A *Former* House GOP Leader To Demand Leaders Clean Their Own Foul House

Filed under: General — Dana @ 12:08 pm



[guest post by Dana]

After the horrific attack in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Buffalo where a lone gunman opened fire in a grocery store and eleven of the 13 shot were Black, a manifesto alleged to be from the shooter revealed the mindset of hate behind the attack:

A 180-page manifesto allegedly made by Gendron and circulated widely online seemingly outlines the gunman’s racist, anti-immigrant and anti-Semitic beliefs. Among them was a desire to drive all people not of European descent from the U.S., as well as a theory that minorities are replacing the U.S.’s white population. The document seemed to draw inspiration from the gunman who killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019.

Another document circulating online that appeared to have been written by Gendron sketched out a to-do list for the attack, including cleaning the gun and testing the livestream.

CNN also notes that in their review of the document, the author “attributes the internet for most of his beliefs and describes himself as a fascist, a White supremacist and an anti-Semite”.

Attorney General Merrick Garland later announced that the attack was being investigated by the Justice Dept. “as a hate crime and an act of racially-motivated violent extremism”.

The New York Times links “replacement theory” to recent mass shootings involving victim minority groups:

Inside a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018, a white man with a history of antisemitic internet posts gunned down 11 worshipers, blaming Jews for allowing immigrant “invaders” into the United States.

The next year, another white man, angry over what he called “the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” opened fire on shoppers at an El Paso Walmart, leaving 23 people dead, and later telling the police he had sought to kill Mexicans.

[I]n Buffalo on Saturday, a heavily armed white man is accused of killing 10 people after targeting a supermarket on the city’s predominantly Black east side, writing in a lengthy screed posted online that the shoppers there came from a culture that sought to “ethnically replace my own people.”

Three shootings, three different targets — but all linked by one sprawling, ever-mutating belief now commonly known as replacement theory. At the extremes of American life, replacement theory — the notion that Western elites, sometimes manipulated by Jews, want to “replace” and disempower white Americans — has become an engine of racist terror, helping inspire a wave of mass shootings in recent years and fueling the 2017 right-wing rally in Charlottesville, Va., that erupted in violence.

The report further points out how the replacement theory has gone mainstream:

But replacement theory, once confined to the digital fever swamps of Reddit message boards and semi-obscure white nationalist sites, has gone mainstream. In sometimes more muted forms, the fear it crystallizes — of a future America in which white people are no longer the numerical majority — has become a potent force in conservative media and politics, where the theory has been borrowed and remixed to attract audiences, retweets and small-dollar donations.

I don’t know the exact number of Republicans who embrace the replacement theory or some form of it, but there is a record of those who have espoused the same or very similar views. Anyway, in what has become standard practice, it takes a former GOP House leader to take her party to task and demand the House clean house:

Rep. Adam Kinzinger also pointed out the ongoing problem within the Republican Party:

The replacement theory in the MAGA faction of the Republican Party is not just confined to elected officials, but it is also being pushed by popular pundits with enormous audiences, such as Tucker Carlson. The New York Times documented 400 times that Carlson “has amplified the notion that Democratic politicians and other assorted elites want to force demographic change through immigration”. Here is a short compilation of his comments:

Now, I know that the left and all the little gatekeepers on Twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term replacement – if you suggest the Democratic Party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with new people, more obedient voters from the third world. But they become hysterical because that’s what’s happening, actually. Let’s just say it. That’s true.

Anyway, I’ll leave you with Mitt Romney’s spot-on observation following the attack in Buffalo:

The GOP needs to clean out the rot and needs to do better. However, given that it remains (at least for the time being) Trump’s party, I’m not holding my breath.

–Dana

85 Responses to “After The Buffalo Attack, It Takes A *Former* House GOP Leader To Demand Leaders Clean Their Own Foul House”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (2c7c1d)

  2. If what Carlson says were true, how would he then explain the Cubans, where almost 60% of voters identify or affiliate with conservatives?

    Dana (2c7c1d)

  3. Did you know that the Unabomber Manifesto, written by a man who killed several people with mail bombs and maimed still more, can be found at the Washington Post and Amazon.com?

    There is also an Audible audiobook.

    Not saying whaddabout, as I detest this new theory too, just pointing out a bit of hypocrisy.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  4. This replacement theory thing is hyperbole, of course, but there is an aspect of wanting to import underclass voters in what the Democrats have been doing at the southern border and their insistence on including “a path to citizenship” in any normalization of undocumented immigrant status.

    All successful lies have some truth behind them.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  5. If what Carlson says were true

    Carlson’s problem is that how they vote is not his real issue. It’s xenophobia, to put it politely. The voting thing is just a patina of acceptability to cover the racism.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  6. The replacement theory in the MAGA faction of the Republican Party is not just confined to elected officials, but it is also being pushed by popular pundits with enormous audiences, such as Tucker Carlson.

    Folks vote for elected officials- so it says something about the electoratge, not the person elected. And a lot of people on television say and do a lot of stupid things. Which does not mean you must agree with them or do what they say– unless you’re a sheepish fool. The bigger question is WHY such nuttery draws such big audiences- particularly in the wake of the demise of the Fairness Doctrine, the rise of right wing talk radio and the explosion of unregulated or worse, self-regulated cable television channels in conjunction w/t internet. It all translates into some extremely lucrative revenue streams from advertisers for any carriers practicing ‘free market capitalism’:

    ‘On September 22, 2021, Tucker Carlson promoted the ‘Great Replacement’ conspiracy theory on a segment of his FOX TV cable talk show claiming that President Joe Biden was intentionally trying to replace the population with people from the third world.’… source, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement

    ‘On January 1, 1965, on his morning children’s show, the performer Soupy Sales suggested to his young viewers that they find the wallets of their sleeping fathers and take out “some of those funny green pieces of paper with all those nice pictures of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Alexander Hamilton, and send them along to your old pal, Soupy, care of WNEW, New York.”

    Complaints from outraged parents came fast and furious, and the television station that hosted Sales’ program, WNEW-TV in New York, had pulled him off the air by the following Monday. … He received only a few dollars, and a week’s suspension.’ – source, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greenmail/

    As an old colleague at CBS once told us, “…television is a very promising medium. And some day, we’ll get it right.”

    “Hey! Do the Mouse, yeah!” – Soupy Sales

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1_F9zEF7o

    DCSCA (02e6f3)

  7. For the umpteenth time. Cheney and kinzinger are being run out of the republican party. Mormon mitt romney better hope enough of the mo’s stay with him. Read what the book of mormons says about black people. The church only changed when they were about to loose their tax exempt status costing them billions. White supremacy is the belief system of the ignorant southern white trash democrats who were welcomed into the republican party trading lincoln for strom thurmond. I posted earlier on weekend thread about reagan appealing to racists to win their votes in 1980. The racist form of white populism has now taken over the republican party. Mcconnell and the other corporate establishment republicans must play ball with the populist base or else Q-anon will go after them too! Why do keep hoping populists who hate you and what you stand for will change?

    asset (8fb0dd)

  8. There are silly conspiracy theories in the Democrat Party, too. Such as banks are there to oppress people (and all those Jewish bankers, too!). Such as the CIA pushing crack into black neighborhoods, for any number of false reasons. There’s even a TV series about it.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  9. @7. ‘In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.

    As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s. The phrase “Southern Strategy” refers primarily to “top down” narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners’ racial grievances in order to gain their support.’ -source, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    DCSCA (02e6f3)

  10. She’s a disgrace and should be booted from the party immediately.

    NJRob (c663d5)

  11. @10. Just as The Big Dick and AuH20 shudda been, eh NJ? 😉

    DCSCA (02e6f3)

  12. “The replacement theory in the MAGA faction of the Republican Party is not just confined to elected officials, but it is also being pushed by popular pundits with enormous audiences, such as Tucker Carlson.”

    Um…. This theory is not new and is not restricted to the MAGA faction of the Republican Party. It has been pushed by the Democrats for years. There are numerous books written by Left wing authors predicting/calling for demographic changes in the U.S. where majority whites become a minority. What’s the difference?

    The Coming White Minority

    Majority-Minority

    White Identity Politics

    The Next America

    Eric (e057f2)

  13. ‘In August 1980, Republican candidate Ronald Reagan made a much-noted appearance at the Neshoba County Fair in Philadelphia, Mississippi. His speech there contained the phrase “I believe in states’ rights” and was cited as evidence that the Republican Party was building upon the Southern Strategy again.

    Reagan’s campaigns used racially coded rhetoric, making attacks on the “welfare state” and leveraging resentment towards affirmative action… During his 1976 and 1980 campaigns, Reagan employed stereotypes of welfare recipients, often invoking the case of a “welfare queen” with a large house and a Cadillac using multiple names to collect over $150,000 in tax-free income…’ –

    source, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy#Evolution_(1970s_and_1980s)

    Then there’s the Lee Atwater/Roger Ailes era w/t GOP and Bush campaign– and the ‘Willie Horton’ fiasco. The GOP Establishment has built their electoral base on this sort of stuff, cycle after cycle– in order to win… and now it has ballooned out of control.

    DCSCA (02e6f3)

  14. @8 Read dark alliance by gary webb who committed suicide by shooting himself 4 times after writing the boo Freeway johnny the number one coke dealer in so cal’s defense was How can the government prosecute me were business partners! The governments answer was we are not business partners anymore! Freeway johnny said what do you mean clinton was governor when the c.i.a. was flying dope in thru mena arkansas. See the movie air america or just google government and cia drug dealing ollie north and eden pastore drug dealing, the contra of iran contra. Bill casey’s secret source to fund the contras.

    asset (8fb0dd)

  15. She’s a disgrace and should be booted from the party immediately.

    NJRob (c663d5) — 5/16/2022 @ 1:39 pm

    I’m assuming you mean Cheney here?

    If so, it’s pretty funny that you think she is the disgrace and that she is the one that should be booted from the party immediately and not the individual who sat in the seat of power and attempted to overthrow a legitimate election. (If you do think Trump should be booted from the party immediately, I must have missed it.)

    Dana (2c7c1d)

  16. Hey Liz, get me a sammich.

    mg (8cbc69)

  17. After all the Trumpies have disappeared, changed their screen names, or otherwise recanted — much like fascists in 1948 Italy — Liz Cheney will be the GOP nominee for president.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9)

  18. Her future:

    The Liz Cheney Show, Saturdays, 2 PM ET [Cable Graveyard Time]

    [ ] MSNBC

    [ ] CNN

    [ ] talk radio

    Choose.

    DCSCA (a8fd18)

  19. [✔️ ]talk radio
    Shootin the breeze with dick and liz on npr – saturday at sundown.

    mg (8cbc69)

  20. This replacement theory thing is hyperbole, of course, but there is an aspect of wanting to import underclass voters in what the Democrats have been doing at the southern border and their insistence on including “a path to citizenship” in any normalization of undocumented immigrant status.

    All successful lies have some truth behind them.

    Kevin M (eeb9e9) — 5/16/2022 @ 12:28 pm

    This. It boosts the left’s long-term prospects. The Cubans are the exception that proves the rule.

    norcal (3f02c4)

  21. In 1996, an aide to VP Al Gore sent him an email that said, “ No, sir, the bet was not just about Kelly Girls. I had bet Elaine that INS headquarters would not give their managers in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and Miami enough authority, in general, to make me confident they
    could produce 1 million new citizens before election day.
    Unfortunately, I was right.”

    The Clinton administration in 1996 was fast tracking immigration approvals for the purpose of creating Democrat voters. In the process, they loosened up the vetting process on people with criminal backgrounds.

    Eric (e057f2)

  22. All successful lies have some truth behind them.

    Reaganaurics.
    Reaganoptics.
    Reaganomics.

    😉

    “I am not a crook.” – The Big Dick, 11-17-1973

    DCSCA (a8fd18)

  23. @19. She does have a face made for radio, eh? 😉

    DCSCA (a8fd18)

  24. The Democrats make up for it, the importing of new citizens from foreign places, by killing a million home-grown ones in the womb every year; and the Southern states’ efforts to at least save the ones that were the result of incest are of unknown effect (albeit it could be quite significant in some localities).

    nk (9338bd)

  25. OT- Two weeks. Where’s the leaker, SCOTUS?

    “The Dancing Alitos” are in rehearsal.

    DCSCA (a8fd18)

  26. DCCCP: ““The Dancing Alitos” are in rehearsal.”

    Only in your mind

    AJ_Liberty (a36eed)

  27. Another Daily kos post. Researching before flame throwing. Is maybe a new leaf.

    EPWJ (58042f)

  28. what a scurrilous post

    are you also still blaming sarah palin for the massacre in arizona?

    is there democrat water you won’t carry?

    JF (e4c056)

  29. cheerleading biden’s intentional mess at the border

    or

    shooting up a grocery store

    choose one

    there is no middle ground

    JF (e4c056)

  30. @26. Dream on, AJ:

    “All marching together! ‘Two, three, kick, turn. Turn, turn, kick, turn…’ It will work!- Roger De Bris [Christopher Hewitt] ‘The Producers’ 1967

    DCSCA (a8fd18)

  31. @28, 29: Instead of vague, unsubstantiated attacks on Dana’s character, why don’t you refute something she actually said?

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  32. Hows that sammich coming, lizzy?

    mg (8cbc69)

  33. So the GOP is an existential threat Then bring it, you old, senile, drooling idiot. You apparently think they’re a threat, so outlaw them! Grab your Obama pen and phone and make being a Republican a federal offense. C’mon, big guy, let’s see if Jill will let you keep your balls.

    But of course you won’t do it, because you’re a coward as well as a moron.

    mg (8cbc69)

  34. White supremest holding a gun in buffalo police talk him into surrendering unarmed black teenager police: shoot to kill!

    asset (00bcd6)

  35. This is from Reuters, back when Abortion Barbie was the party’s next rising star:

    After election defeat, Democrats aim for long-term gains in Texas
    By Jon Herskovitz NOVEMBER 5, 2014

    AUSTIN Texas (Reuters) – Wendy Davis may have lost the battle for Texas governor by a wide margin on Tuesday, but Democrats are forging ahead in the belief that demographic trends will eventually help them conquer the Republican stronghold and alter the U.S. political map. (Emphasis mine)

    “Replacement theory” is the expected reaction to the Democrats openly encouraging more immigration, because they assumed the immigrants would support Democrats–a not unreasonable assumption, given the historic voting patterns of Hispanics going back 100 years.

    What’s particularly noteable here is that the Democrats have been trying to use white-bread fluffbrains like Davis and Robert O’Rourke to try and pick up Hispanic turnout in the state, rather than a real, actual La Raza baby like Julian Castro.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  36. @28, 29: Instead of vague, unsubstantiated attacks on Dana’s character, why don’t you refute something she actually said?
    lurker (cd7cd4) — 5/16/2022 @ 10:30 pm

    lol irony up the yazoo

    the entire post is a vague unsubstantiated attack on those, like stefanik, who never mention replacement theory and simply oppose biden’s immigration chaos

    why not refute something stefanik actually said?

    these are the same scurrilous tactics used against palin a decade ago, and hardly surprised you’ve reduced yourself to defending them

    JF (e4c056)

  37. FOW, that’s just a variation on the “Chicago Irish (later Jewish) guy everybody can agree on” tactic. Either Castro twin would scare off the black Dems (as Ron Kirk likely got submarined by Hispanics in turn when he ran statewide).

    urbanleftbehind (5d5c45)

  38. Yeah, Liz Cheney is simply a broken-burn-it-all-down has been at this point.

    This is the bottom of the barrel gutter politics that Cheney is simply flinging poo at her former party.

    There’s a distinction that needs to be made:
    1) There is this “Great Replacement Theory” which is a fundamentally racist theory.

    2) Then, there’s this VERY public Lefty/Democrats advocating for more immigration (legal and illegal) to give the Democrat party a political boost.

    When Carlson or any other Republicans points out #2, the media and Democrats (but I repeat myself) accuses the Republicans of #1.

    whembly (7e0293)

  39. #39

    When Carlson, Stefanik, et al busily assert argument #1, they make themselves vulnerable to the charge that they are doing this when asserting argument #2. A good reason for the GOP to clean its house and spend some time doing so, don’t you think?

    Appalled (bb92ad)

  40. But, they’re not asserting argument #1. They’re asserting argument #2.

    Saying they’re really advocating #1 is simply a smear.

    whembly (7e0293)

  41. Just pointing out that Democrats openly argue that liberal immigration laws benefit them electorally gets you branded as a “replacement theorist.” It’s insane and those pushing this should be openly mocked.

    whembly (7e0293)

  42. #41 — To quote Tucker —

    “So I know that the left and all the little gatekeepers on Twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term ‘replacement’, if you suggest the Democratic Party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with new people, more obedient voters from the third world,” Mr Carlson said. “But they become hysterical because that’s that’s what’s happening actually. Let’s just say it. That’s true.”

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/video-tucker-carlson-promoting-great-180825469.html

    Appalled (bb92ad)

  43. @43 And? He’s arguing about the political desires by Democrats to encourage more immigrations (legal or illegal) because they believe it’s politically advantageous.

    He’s not describing the actual Great Replacement theory, which is theory that warns that liberal immigration policies are really a malicious plan to replace whites with non-white people.

    Big, big difference.

    whembly (7e0293)

  44. #44 —

    Ok, so arguing the Dems are trying to replace the current electorate isn’t a replacement theory. Or it’s a replacement theory but not that replacement theory.

    Don’t expect the opposition to respect that framing or any persuadable moderates wading into this to accept that framing.

    Appalled (caf735)

  45. Was the Tops shooter radicalized by internet sewage like 4chan and such? Yes.
    Was he influenced by “replacement theory” protagonists like Tucker? Who can say, but it couldn’t have helped.

    And here are other questions: The kid absorbed most or all of this garbage while he was a minor, under his parents’ roof. Where were the adults? How could they have not known? How could they have not known that he bought an assault rifle and body armor?

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  46. @46 I absolutely concur with you about the opposition not respecting the framing or any persuadable moderates wading into it.

    Hence why I mentioned earlier it’s gutter politics.

    whembly (7e0293)

  47. I’m assuming you mean Cheney here?

    If so, it’s pretty funny that you think she is the disgrace and that she is the one that should be booted from the party immediately and not the individual who sat in the seat of power and attempted to overthrow a legitimate election. (If you do think Trump should be booted from the party immediately, I must have missed it.)

    Dana (2c7c1d) — 5/16/2022 @ 2:31 pm

    She, Liz Cheney, is a liar and a fraud who is trying to play up to the leftist constituents she wants to vote for her in November. This is an attack on her party that she cannot believe is true otherwise she would’ve never agreed to be in the party. It’s disgusting, but part for the course since all she cares about is power and that’s what Pelosi is giving her as a mouthpiece of the left.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  48. Biden had 26½% of the vote in Wyoming. What “leftist constituents”?
    Liz Cheney didn’t attack the GOP, she attacked the GOP leadership for their lack of leadership in confronting and opposing racist rhetoric.
    This is really a tribal complaint for Cheney’s rankling the Trump Tribe, which is less about conservatism and more about obedience.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  49. Party registration in Wyoming (as of January 2022):

    Republican: 196,179 (70%)

    Democratic: 45,822 (16%)

    Other: (Constitution, Libertarian): (1%)

    Unaffiliated: 35,344 (13%)

    Wyoming is so like San Francisco.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  50. Party registration in Wyoming correction:

    Other: (Constitution, Libertarian): 3,360 (1%)

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  51. It’s pretty simple. She’s not getting conservative Republican votes. She wants to be a leftist bomb thrower so the leftists in Wyoming vote for her instead of the Democrat. But instead she’s foolishly burning her own house down.

    Enjoy working for MSDNC Cheney. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    NJRob (75dfb8)

  52. @53. Her time, her ideology, her usefulness has passed.

    DCSCA (329bf8)

  53. Looking forward to Dick taking his daughter out for a little Dadn’Daughter pheasant hunting this fall…

    Colonel Haiku (1fc7e2)

  54. #48 I guess I wonder why you are persuaded by it.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  55. Az republiKKKan state legislator wendy rodgers accuses the government of doing the buffalo massacre as a false flag operation to make white people look bad! When Democrats demand her expulsion as she has already been repremanded for racism earlier in the year Fellow republiKKKan leg. ugenti said I am tired of hearing attacks on my fellow republiKKKans!

    asset (dfc54c)

  56. There’s a distinction that needs to be made:
    1) There is this “Great Replacement Theory” which is a fundamentally racist theory.

    2) Then, there’s this VERY public Lefty/Democrats advocating for more immigration (legal and illegal) to give the Democrat party a political boost.

    whembly (7e0293) — 5/17/2022 @ 6:49 am

    You put words to what I was working out in my mind, whembly.

    This is absolutely the case. These two things get conflated, and both sides pick up followers from it.

    The right gets actual racists, whose votes they aren’t going to reject. The left gets people who see racism everywhere, including any talk of immigration enforcement.

    Now both sides do your tribal dance.

    norcal (3f02c4)

  57. The Unabomber also committed local crimes in Montana.

    https://slate.com/culture/2022/04/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-jamie-gehring-madman-in-the-woods.html

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/14/my-next-door-neighbor-was-the-unabomber-ted-kaczynski/

    … In his journals, Kaczynski admitted to vandalizing a nearby vacation home because of the noise its recreational vehicles made, but when local law enforcement briefly suspected him, another Montanan refuted that.

    “There is no way Ted could have done that,” the man told police.

    After his arrest, the FBI would discover numerous local crimes no one knew he had perpetrated. Kaczynski had sabotaged area mines, poured sugar into random compressor tanks and stole numerous items from the town dump and local backyards (mostly used to build bombs). One day, he used a hunting rifle to take pot shots at a helicopter buzzing his land. Another time, he chopped down a utility pole holding a pay phone Kaczynski believed was stealing his change.

    But no one in Lincoln feared Kaczynski, especially the Gehrings. By the mid-’80s, Ted became isolated from the family. He mostly rejected their offers of rides into town, and when he did accept, he only talked of the weather.

    The Gehrings considered “Teddy the Hermit” so harmless that Jamie’s father, Butch, frequently faux-threatened him. Whenever Kaczynski complained to Butch about the noise coming from the Gehring sawmill, or allowing lumber companies access to his lands, Butch told Ted he would cut down his favorite Ponderosa pine.

    “Don’t make me get the chainsaw,” Butch teased.

    Butch believed they were friendly neighbors, but Kaczynski actually hated him. One night, he sabotaged the family’s sawmill by ruining the fuel system, explaining why in his journal.

    “There is a guy who’s a neighbor of mine, Butch Gehring . . . he’s a real bastard. My intention was to put him out of business.”

    …..It was scarier than she could have possibly known. One afternoon, Kaczynski eyeballed Wendy and her infant daughter through the scope of his hunting rifle, alternating back and forth between the two. “It would be easy to take the little bitch out,” he wrote. “But then the big bitch would get away. Or if I shoot the big bitch, then the little bitch would be left on the hill.”

    ….Maybe the only Lincoln locals who recognized Kaczynski’s true nature were the town dogs, who universally bristled at him, and with good reason. While Kaczynski was delivering bombs across America during his time in Lincoln, he was also killing canines. He killed at least six in Montana, shooting one and poisoning five others. One of the dead pets belonged to the Gehrings, Wiley, who never liked Ted. Kaczynski didn’t just kill the dog, but tortured him with just enough strychnine to ensure a long, painful death. “The same person my family welcomed into their home and helped during tough winters had maliciously poisoned our dog,” writes Gehring, who read about his cruelty toward Wiley (and all his other local crimes) only after his journals were released following his arrest….

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  58. 2. Dana (2c7c1d) — 5/16/2022 @ 12:16 pm

    If what Carlson says were true, how would he then explain the Cubans, where almost 60% of voters identify or affiliate with conservatives?

    Magaland is working on it. They’ve already alienated the Asians.

    Meanwhle, other Hispanics are voting more Republican.

    And how do they explain abortion? Is it that Democrats are killing their future voters but they are stuck with that position, so they must seek replacements? I think this has actually been said.

    Or is it that people get more prosperous in the United States so they always need more poor people?

    (except that Tucker Carlson is apparently not happy with immigrants ableto make a lot of money either,

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  59. @58: Exactly.

    Three things can all be true:
    1) Replacement theory is racist
    2) GOP politicians have long stoked fear over new minority voters potentially voting for Dems.
    3) Democrat politicians have long cheered new migrants (legal/illegal) voters potentially voting for Dems.

    whembly (7e0293)

  60. @56

    #48 I guess I wonder why you are persuaded by it.

    Because Democrats and connect allies admits to it publicly.

    whembly (7e0293)

  61. 21. Eric (e057f2) — 5/16/2022 @ 6:06 pm

    The Clinton administration in 1996 was fast tracking immigration approvals for the purpose of creating Democrat voters. In the process, they loosened up the vetting process on people with criminal backgrounds

    This was naturalization, not immigration. Every person naturalized was eligible for it, (with possibly, I will grant you, a few exceptions on character grounds) but it was taking much longer to reach that point than the minimum legal time.

    There aren’t enough people involved for this to be a plan, and nobody makes such long range plans – the speed-up in 1996 actually is proof of that. And the main benefit comes from counting more people in the Census.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  62. A 180-page manifesto allegedly made by Gendron and circulated widely online seemingly outlines the gunman’s racist, anti-immigrant and anti-Semitic beliefs.

    It was mostly plagiarized.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/replacement-theory-shooting-tucker-carlson.html

    According to a detailed analysis by the Anti-Defamation League provided to The Times, the suspect’s screed plagiarized almost two-thirds of another manifesto — the one left by an Australian man who in 2019 murdered dozens of Muslims as they prayed in two mosques in Christchurch. In some instances, the Buffalo suspect replaced the Christchurch killer’s references to Angela Merkel, the former German chancellor, with George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist. One page of the Australian’s document includes a purported count of Jews working at the senior levels of major media outlets, including Fox itself.

    And that less than 2/3 ratio would assume there was no intermediate text.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  63. As I said on another thread:

    I don’t believe the Buffalo killer aimed to kill African Americans because he had a racist ideology .

    He had a racist ideology because he wanted to kill people.

    He gave no sign of having hostility to African Americans backs.

    The day before the massacre, he had a perfectly peaceful conversation with a local black outside the store.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-shooting-victims-identified-as-biden-plans-trip-to-grieve-with-the-community-11652717540?no_redirect=true

    He seemed out of place to Grady Lewis, a 50-year-old who lives in the neighborhood and often hangs out by the Tops. Mr. Gendron said he was visiting the area, according to Mr. Lewis, and the two talked for 90 minutes after Mr. Lewis asked him a question about his shirt, which said “genius.”

    The rest seems to be only in the print issue (page A6 Monday in an article that doesn’t have yet his visit on March 8 and possibly subsequent days)

    But it says:

    They discussed critical race theory and Mr. Gendron’s desire to build a time machine, Mr. Lewis said. The alleged shooter kept his glance down occasionally looking at his phone but rarely making eye contact, Mr. Lewis said. He closed with a question: Would Mr. Lewis, who is Black, be back at the store the next day?

    I can find this alluded to in this Yahoo article:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/manager-kicked-buffalo-shooter-tops-125038880.html

    The time machine doesn’t sound like something anybody would have invented.

    By the way, the shooter was later asked to leave by the store manager, who thought he was there to panhandle and he left right away.

    In his writings the shooter said he had a close call in March. Later he got Covid, despite all his precautions, so maybe that delayed him for amonth or two.

    Also byy the way, Grady was indeed back the next day but outside. He was not the person Gendron declined to shoot at. Maybe he had tslked to him too.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  64. About the threat to shoot up his school:

    (from combined sources)

    For an economics class he and others were asked what they wanted to do (for a living?) He wrote murder suicide. Later, under psychiatric evaluation he said the class was ending, and it was a stupid joke. But he later write that he meant it.

    Not clear from this how the possible location or one of the possibilities was his high school graduation.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  65. I had a an idea before: Have 10 people,at least 3 from the opposite sex add now maybe I should add 2 or 3 at least ten years older or over age 65 or 60, insure (with frozen assets or a credit line) that the person who wants to purchase a gun will prevent it from being used in a crime (knows how to use it and will prevent it from being stolen) for at least three years.

    Anyone who drops out must be replaced within 30 days. This is better than having any standard for red flags. Not perfect and needs development.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  66. I think the worst problem with Peyton Gendron is that he didn’t believe murder was wrong, nor that there is even such a thing as right and wrong.

    Nor did he have a revulsion against it.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  67. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bidens-buffalo-hypocrisy/ar-AAXohux?ocid=BingNewsSearch

    After the horrific tragedy in Waukesha, Wisconsin, this past December, I claimed that had the victims been predominantly black instead of predominantly white, he would have visited the city. But since the Waukesha victims were white, Biden blew them off and made up an excuse not to visit. Yet with the horrific tragedy in Buffalo, New York, where the victims were mostly black, Biden miraculously has time and is visiting the city today. His pandering is absolutely repulsive.

    “Obviously, any president going to visit a community requires a lot of assets … requires taking their resources,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said at the time. Apparently, the concern over resources didn’t matter this time around. Simply put, Biden thinks he can benefit politically by visiting black victims instead of white ones.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not angry that Biden is visiting Buffalo. I applaud him for the visit; it is absolutely the correct thing to do. The president should be there to console the victims’ families through this difficult time. But his visit is not genuine or sincere. It is politically motivated and agenda-driven. He is only visiting the area because of the skin color of the victims. It reveals Biden’s lack of character.

    Any skepticism of my claim should be refuted by examining Biden’s recent history of responding to such tragedies.

    Consider that Biden flew to Wisconsin after Jacob Blake was shot by a police officer in August 2020. In case anyone forgot, Blake is black. Biden met with Jacob Blake’s family. The incident was initially portrayed as a racist act by officers and involved just one person — a person who was determined to be at fault, mind you. But Biden visited, and there were not any concerns over resources then. But for the Waukesha tragedy, in which six people were killed and 62, mostly white, were injured, Biden couldn’t make it.

    “This is Biden in a nutshell. When he can exploit a terrible act for political gain, he will spare no resource in getting there,” I wrote in December. “But when a tragedy undercuts his preferred narrative, the White House will pretend it never happened.”

    In 2 years, how many people will even admit voting for this racist?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  68. It wasn’t who the victims were – it was who the perpetrator was, and his ideology. Many ideologies are possible.

    Some new ones can always arise.

    Some, like anarchism, have fallen completely out of fashion. But in 1901, in Buffalo…

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  69. I suspect that it is neither the victims, the perpetrator, nor the ideology. It is the locale. Would Biden have been welcome in Waukesha? From a political aspect and a logistical aspect? Would Waukesha’s residents have been glad to see him? Could local resources have accommodated the motorized air-mobile light battalion that accompanies the President everywhere these days?

    nk (d2a2d1)

  70. Trump-backed Budd wins North Carolina Senate primary

    Rep. Ted Budd on Tuesday was projected to clinch the Republican Senate nomination in North Carolina, overcoming a challenge from former Gov. Pat McCrory and handing former President Trump a major win in a critical battleground state.

    The Associated Press called the race at 7:47 p.m. ET.

    Trump endorsed Budd, a three-term congressman, last summer in a move that came as a surprise to many Republicans. That support kicked off a steady climb in the polls for Budd, who managed to galvanize the support of North Carolina GOP voters in recent months and emerge as the primary’s front-runner.

    https://thehill.com/news/campaign/3491830-trump-backed-budd-wins-north-carolina-senate-primary/

    Oh my. Have another drink, Liz.

    DCSCA (fc60a7)

  71. 63 There aren’t enough people involved for this to be a plan, and nobody makes such long range plans – the speed-up in 1996 actually is proof of that. And the main benefit comes from counting more people in the Census.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 5/17/2022 @ 3:13 pm

    How about addressing the Doug Farbrother quote, “ to make me confident they could produce 1 million new citizens before election day.”

    Th purpose of the Citzen USA program was to fast track the immigrant naturalization process. Al Gore was the guy in charge of the program in 1996, and the quote above was from his aide Doug Farbrother. Election day referred to the 2000 election, in which Al Gore ran for President. That quote sure looks like the real goal of CUSA was to produce Democrat voters for Al Gore.

    Eric (e057f2)

  72. REVEALED: How YOU are paying for migrants to take charter flights: Secret taxpayer-funded trips costing tens of thousands of dollars ferry asylum seekers from border to inland cities ahead of Title 42 rush next week

    Secret government charter flights paid for by taxpayer funds are quietly transporting migrants from the southern border to other cities across the U.S.

    Lawmakers are demanding more transparency about the flights and where the migrants are going, with some state and regional leaders alleging they were not informed about the relocation plans.

    ‘Health and Human Services has misled me or lied to me several times. I have asked, they actually told me any flights coming into Pennsylvania we will notify you and the local schools,’ Congressman Dan Meuser (R-Pa.) told NewsNation. ‘They didn’t. They haven’t notified us once.’

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) criticized President Joe Biden’s ‘secretive operations,’ claiming the federal government has been bringing migrants into Jacksonville without alerting the state.

    The call for transparency comes as the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention plans next week to end restrictions, known as Title 42, that have prevented migrants from seeking asylum under U.S. law and international treaty on grounds of preventing the spread of COVID-19. Border officials are preparing for surge in the numbers of migrants – and charter flights – when the health order expires on May 23.

    another democrat nutjob policy the likes of cheney, kinzinger and romney provide cover for

    JF (e4c056)

  73. Eric (e057f2) — 5/17/2022 @ 6:52 pm

    How about addressing the Doug Farbrother quote, “ to make me confident they could produce 1 million new citizens before election day.”

    I don’t know what the number was. They did raise the number naturalized before election day, folllowed by a drop afterwards.

    Th purpose of the Citzen USA program was to fast track the immigrant naturalization process. Al Gore was the guy in charge of the program in 1996, and the quote above was from his aide Doug Farbrother. Election day referred to the 2000 election, in which Al Gore ran for President.

    No it didn’t. This was about 1996..

    I think somebody’s lying to you.

    There was no need to fast track anyone for four years later, although if you got people registered to vote in one presidential election, they would likely want to vote again in another.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  74. The killer kept what amounted to a diary, complete with plans, on Discord then invited some people in 30 minutes before the attack.

    Nobody alerted anyone.

    He got into it from gun discussion boards. (on 4chan on 8chan, on reddit?)

    He alternated between wanting to kill people, or just committing suicide without killing anyone. He convinced himself he had passed the point of no return.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  75. He originally wanted to do in Rochester but changed the target to Buffalo in February because it had more blacks.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/us/payton-gendron-buffalo-shooting-suspect-what-we-know/index.html

    Shonnell Harris Teague, an operations manager at the store, saw him Friday afternoon at the store and told him to leave because it appeared he was bothering customers, she told ABC News.

    When he exited apparently he got stopped by Grady Lewis who asked him about the slogan on his shirt, which said Genius and they spoke for 90 minutes — about critical race theory and his interest in building a time machine. (may have been asked to leave again)

    He tried to style this as revenge for Waukegan.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  76. “No it didn’t. This was about 1996..”

    That makes such a huge difference, since Al Gore wasn’t up for election in 1996. Oh wait, yes he was!!!

    Again, the quote speaks for itself. “to make me confident they could produce 1 million new citizens before election day.” The process was being done for partisan reasons and for the political benefit of the Democratic Party. If otherwise, why use the term “election day”?

    You are being intentionally obtuse. Once the process is established, it becomes a government program. Relaxing the rules in 1996, means those same relaxed rules are in place moving forward. The reason Democrats are lenient on illegal immigration is the belief that most of those immigrants will eventually become Democrat voters.

    Eric (e057f2)

  77. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/buffalo-officials-hold-press-conference-for-mass-shooting-update-on-5-16-22-transcript

    ….There is a lot of threats out there that I’m hearing about and that we’re hearing about in law enforcement. One of those threats happened yesterday. A 52-year-old man from Buffalo yesterday, allegedly, and again, allegedly, called up a pizzeria at 12:05 PM and made threatening comments to the employee referencing what happened at Tops. 45 minutes later, allegedly, that same individual called up a brewery in Downtown Buffalo and made similar threatening comments. Again, alluding to what happened at Tops. The pizzeria and the brewery called BPD. As usual, BPD did a great job. Found out who this guy was, went and arrested him last night.

    John Flynn: (10:40)

    We held him last night because it was a D felony. And under the New York State bail laws, we can hold someone overnight for a D felony, which we did. We held him overnight. And we arraigned him this morning on a D felony making a terrorist threat. Facing up a seven years in jail. Now, what’s ironic is that this is a non-bailable qualifying offense. And in this case here, the judge ordered a forensic on him as well. So he’s being held pending a forensic. But once that forensic is over, he has to walk free. That’s something we also got to tweak in the bail laws right there, where we can hold someone overnight and arrest him on a D felony and hold him on an appearance ticket. But after he gets arraigned, we can’t hold him and put him on bail. We got to let him walk out the door, ]without even having to put up bail, which might concentrate the mind – SF] which is going to happen here in this case, once the forensic is over. But I go off on a tangent there. I’m sorry.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  78. 78. Eric (e057f2) — 5/18/2022 @ 2:31 pm

    “No it didn’t. This was about 1996..”

    That makes such a huge difference, since Al Gore wasn’t up for election in 1996. Oh wait, yes he was!!!

    I was pointing out you had your facts wrong. Election Day was not for the year 2000 – which in the end was close. So you can argue it made a difference.

    Al Gore was indeed running for re-election as vice president but he was not in charge of the campaign.

    My point also was that this was naturalization, not immigration, (and certainly not immigration against the law) and the rush to naturalize argued against the idea this was a very long term strategy. If they had along term strategy, there would have been no rush to naturalize – it would have been better planned.

    I’m not even sure why they did it, except to squeeze out every possible advantage for 1996. It might have spillover effects for 2000, but the main effect would be for 1996, and to try to keep up a big vote difference in favor of the Democratic Party, in certain places.

    Again, the quote speaks for itself. “to make me confident they could produce 1 million new citizens before election day.”

    Fine, fine. Election Day 1996 though. It could be Clinton was not taking any chances.

    The process was being done for partisan reasons and for the political benefit of the Democratic Party. If otherwise, why use the term “election day”?

    Ys, of course. But it wasn’t illegitimate.

    The process of naturalization had been slowed down for years. Then they got the idea they could register a few more voters (percentagewise) if they speeded up naturalization.

    You are being intentionally obtuse. Once the process is established, it becomes a government program. Relaxing the rules in 1996, means those same relaxed rules are in place moving forward.

    There was no government program. As a matter if fact aturalization slowed down afterwards, as they had no more use (for some time) for more citizens and they had used up some of the backlog.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  79. You’re not being clear exactly what was changed – I’m not clear myself, and we can’t effectively discuss things that way without knowing what exactly they did – but if they changed anything I suspect that they changed it back later. (to avoid criticism)

    The reason Democrats are lenient on illegal immigration is the belief that most of those immigrants will eventually become Democrat voters.

    No. It is because their family members and neighbors want that. A secondary benefit is for the Census – and they can overcount too by working hard to “count everyone”

    https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/ny-state-of-politics/2022/05/19/new-york-s-population-was-likely-overcounted-in-2020-census

    I kind of suspected that – and that doesn’t consider the fact that New York lost population owing to the pandemic – but that was mostly after the April 1, 2020 base date that we were trying for.

    That some of these very same people will become citizens or that they will have children who will vote in18 or more years is simply too long term. You’re basically insisting that Democrats are stupid.

    The amnesty proposals that are “bi-partisan” generally look to a process where they can become citizens after about 12 or 13 years.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  80. If you use a later population estimate to estimate overcounting, that’s not overcounting – that’s the result of the Census Day being almost exactly at the peak.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  81. Sammy,

    You are completely wrong about the Democrat party and their desire for South American and Middle Eastern immigration, but not European or Cuban immigration. They want socialist subjects, not citizens

    NJRob (556f35)

  82. Off topic, but important: You can order eight COVID tests, courtesy of the taxpayers, here.

    (The site is surprisingly simple to use. They probably had a good designer, and did the necessary testing. It took me less than a minute to fill out the form, and I am not a fast typist.)

    Jim Miller (406a93)

  83. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/20/1100200267/the-buffalo-shooting-suspects-online-footprint-prompts-questions-about-red-flags

    ….Among the materials is a nearly 600 page chat log written by an individual who identifies himself as Payton Gendron, the same name as the killing suspect, documenting roughly six months of personal reflections and activities leading up to the attack. The record, created on the social chat platform Discord, paints a picture of a committed racist obsessed with the mechanics of planning and executing a deadly mass shooting….

    The log, which appears to have functioned as a sort of digital diary for its author, was kept on the chat platform Discord. Shortly before the attack, its author shared a link pointing to a PDF printout of the log on another social media platform. The record at times suggests that the author was speaking to an audience during the six months he posted to the log. But a Discord spokesperson said nobody else appears to have had access to the server until just prior to the rampage.

    “Approximately 30 minutes prior to the attack … a small group of people were invited to and joined the server,” a Discord spokesperson wrote in a statement. “Before that, our records indicate no other people saw the diary chat log in this private server.”

    Although Discord took down the server where the document and chat log were located, copies continue to circulate online. Throughout, the author of the log writes extensively about his efforts to acquire and test equipment for the attack, and his process of determining where he would carry it out. He periodically keeps track of mundane daily details, such as his exercise routine and food intake. But researchers note that content relating to the author’s racist and anti-Semitic beliefs largely draws from other sources.

    “He often lets the manifestos of previous white supremacist terrorists speak for him,” said Brooking.

    The document’s author repeatedly indicates that he has edited the chat log before releasing it to the public. That, and the timeline of entries that show blocks of missing dates, has raised just as much interest around what is missing from the record as what is contained in it….

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)


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