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10/8/2021

Joe Manchin Not a Fan of Chuck Schumer’s Little Victory Speech

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



LOL. Via Ed Morrissey:

There was some last-minute drama, as well. Schumer went to the floor and harshly criticized Republicans for provoking the crisis. Schumer won this round of his never-ending battle with McConnell, and he made sure everyone knew it. But Republicans — and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) — didn’t like the tone of Schumer’s remarks. Senate Minority Whip John Thune complained personally to Schumer on the floor, while Sens. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) and Mitt Romney (R-Utah) complained to reporters.

Manchin told Schumer the speech was “fucking stupid,” according to four sources. Then Manchin complained to reporters too. The incident doesn’t really signify anything, except to show how tense everyone is in the Senate these days. And it’s only going to get worse.

This is my new double face palm emoji. Sorry, Picard.

22 Responses to “Joe Manchin Not a Fan of Chuck Schumer’s Little Victory Speech”

  1. Am I being too cynical that Manchin’s reaction is staged?

    During Schumer’s floor speech, Manchin is sitting off the side of the podium so that we can see his reaction. Is that his usual seat?

    Is it a genuine reaction to placate WVirginians?

    whembly (867f2f) — 10/8/2021 @ 8:39 am

  2. Speaking of face palms…

    The New York Times issued a massive correction Thursday after the liberal newspaper severely misreported the number of COVID hospitalities among children in the United States by more than 800,000.

    A report headlined, “A New Vaccine Strategy for Children: Just One Dose, for Now,” by science and health reporter Apoorva Mandavilli was peppered with errors before major changes were made to the story. The Times initially reported “nearly 900,000 children have been hospitalized” with COVID since the pandemic began, when the factual data in the now-corrected version is that “more than 63,000 children were hospitalized with Covid-19 from August 2020 to October 2021.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-massive-correction-covid-hospitalizations-children

    Whoops. Honest mistake for sure.

    BuDuh (4a7846) — 10/8/2021 @ 8:55 am

  3. It gets worse:

    The paper also botched actions taken by regulators in Sweden and Denmark and even bungled the timing of a critical FDA meeting.

    “An earlier version of this article incorrectly described actions taken by regulators in Sweden and Denmark. They have halted use of the Moderna vaccine in children; they have not begun offering single doses. The article also misstated the number of Covid hospitalizations in U.S. children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic. In addition, the article misstated the timing of an F.D.A. meeting on authorization of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children. It is later this month, not next week,” the lengthy correction stated in full.

    Shameful.

    BuDuh (4a7846) — 10/8/2021 @ 9:00 am

  4. I wonder what the downside is for Joe Manchin flipping? Trump took his state by a 39% margin. He can’t be happy with a party that wants to put half his state out of business. Maybe he doesn’t want to be in the same party as Ted Cruz and company, but Bernie’s clique is no box of chocolates either.

    Matter of fact, at some point Manchin takes a big risk staying with a Democrat Party that is incredibly toxic to his constituents. Pretty sure he could get whatever committee assignments he wanted if he flipped.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 9:37 am

  5. Somewhat off-topic: World leaders reach landmark deal on a global corporate tax rate

    The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development on Friday announced a major breakthrough on corporate tax rates, after years of disagreement.

    The group of developed nations agreed to a global minimum corporate tax rate of 15%. This marks a huge shift for smaller economies, such as the Republic of Ireland, which have attracted international firms — to a large extent — via a lower tax rate.

    “The landmark deal, agreed by 136 countries and jurisdictions representing more than 90% of global GDP, will also reallocate more than USD 125 billion of profits from around 100 of the world’s largest and most profitable MNEs to countries worldwide, ensuring that these firms pay a fair share of tax wherever they operate and generate profits,” the OECD said in a statement on Friday.

    No word on how (or when) all these countries will pass the enabling laws. Also no word on whether this is a treaty. Nigeria, Kenya, Sri Lanka and St. Vincent continued to reject the deal.

    More from the WSJ (paywall):

    Congress’ work on the deal will be divided into two phases. The first, this year, will be to change the minimum tax on U.S. companies’ foreign income that the U.S. approved in 2017. To comply with the agreement, Democrats intend to raise the rate—the House plan calls for 16.6%—and implement it on a country-by-country basis. Democrats can advance this on their own and they are trying to do so as part of President Biden’s broader policy agenda.

    The second phase will be trickier and the timing is less certain. That is where the U.S. would have to agree to the international deal changing the rules for where income is taxed. Many analysts say that would require a treaty, which would need a two-thirds vote in the Senate and thus some support from Republicans. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has been more circumspect about the schedule and procedural details of this second phase.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 9:45 am

  6. Getting this global tax through the current Congress seems a bit wishful.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 9:46 am

  7. Buduh, what a ridiculous series of errors by the NYT. I clicked the link from Fox but it didn’t help me understand if 63,000 children hospitalized is a large number, or a small one given the size of our country. I assume the times wanted us to think it was a big problem, but the Fox News didn’t provide any context for that metric, but a quick google search shows that it’s about 40% higher then a bad flu year

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

    Time123 (9f42ee) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:15 am

  8. I know I am probably kind of (to say the least) annoying with my constant stanning of Mitch McConnell, but seriously, compare how he handles party organization and strategy versus how Chuck Schumer or Hairy Reed or Bill Frist or Tom Daschle handles it and I think it’s clear we are dealing with one of the legislative masterminds of this era, as well as somebody who has a pretty impressive capacity for leadership.

    JVW (bfa74f) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:17 am

  9. JVW, I dislike both Him and Pelosi but it’s hard to deny that they’re good at what they do.

    Time123 (9f42ee) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:19 am

  10. I would hope that the NYT remembers “corrections” of this sort and brings them up at review time.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:40 am

  11. There are conservatives who cheered the election of Warnock and Ossoff.

    Obudman (86020d) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:40 am

  12. Every time I see McConnell speak on a subject I find myself thinking “what a fine mind this man has.” Not my usual reaction to politicians.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:41 am

  13. There are conservatives who cheered the election of Warnock and Ossoff.

    Trump engineered it by trashing the GA GOP in his quest for coup supporters.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:42 am

  14. Lin Wood is not a conservative. He’s a QAnonut. (Not to be confused with the cola nut.)

    nk (1d9030) — 10/8/2021 @ 10:47 am

  15. In terms of theater, it would be nice to see Manchin cross the aisle…..just to see Schumer tossed to the bench. Schumer is unquestionably one of the most annoying politicians of our time….I probably put him ahead of the retired Harry Reid.

    AJ_Liberty (ec7f74) — 10/8/2021 @ 11:45 am

  16. Breaking-
    Biden declines Trump request to withhold White House records from Jan. 6 committee
    The White House on Friday formally blocked an attempt by former President Donald Trump to withhold documents from Congress related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, setting up a legal showdown between the current and former presidents over executive privilege.

    In a letter to the National Archives obtained by NBC News, White House Counsel Dana Remus rejected an attempt by Trump’s attorneys to withhold documents requested by the House Select Committee regarding the then-president’s activities on Jan. 6, writing that “President Biden has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not in the best interests of the United States, and therefore is not justified as to any of the documents.”
    ………

    Rip Murdock (c30142) — 10/8/2021 @ 11:46 am

  17. September jobs report: Employers added a disappointing 194,000 jobs; unemployment rate at 4.8%

    BIDEN: “When you see headlines and reports of mass firings, and hundreds of people losing their jobs, look at the bigger story…United went from 59% of their employees [vaccinated] to 99%…”

    Obudman (86020d) — 10/8/2021 @ 12:30 pm

  18. @AJ_Liberty Manchin is a conservative democrat, but I don’t think he’s conservative enough to survive a republican primary in Virginia.

    Matt (81d399) — 10/8/2021 @ 12:31 pm

  19. @16 Cool. That means a Democrat POTUS’ executive privilege is now fair game the next time a GOP President takes the WH.

    whembly (3b5b58) — 10/8/2021 @ 12:57 pm

  20. @19 works for me. I’d also like to see this result in improvements of congressional oversight powers. The fact that you can delay responding to a subpoena for years allows executive actions to escape over site completely. My guess is that congress doesn’t want to fix it because it will be used against their team when power changes, plus they’re more interested in immediate political advantage then in actual oversight.

    Time123 (9f42ee) — 10/8/2021 @ 1:02 pm

  21. #19 — Yes, if a President tries to overturn an election and sets a mob on the capitol and he happens to be a Democrat, I will be very happy for them to exploit Biden’s precedent.

    Appalled (1a17de) — 10/8/2021 @ 2:05 pm

  22. @21, there’s never agreement on what principle is being challenged. The people who violate it want the change read narrowly. The other side wants it read broadly. Given that the GOP has shown itself mostly supportive of trying to steal the election I don’t think this concern matters.

    Time123 (fbdbc6) — 10/8/2021 @ 2:25 pm


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