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9/1/2021

Looking To 2024: Donald Trump Heads To Iowa

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:56 am



[guest post by Dana]

Just checking in with the Republican Party to see how the next presidential election might shape up:

Former President Donald Trump plans to hold a rally in the first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa as he continues to tease a third run for the White House.

Details for Trump’s trip are still being worked out, but it comes on the heels of visits to the state by other high profile Republicans also eyeing a run for president.

Other Trump Republicans have already made the trip to Iowa this year, including Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Gov. Kristi Noem, Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Marco Rubio, and Sen. Tom Cotton. However, if Trump throws his hat in the ring, it’s anybody’s guess… but it appears that plans are underway for just that:

…Trump has started to lay the groundwork for a bid. Earlier this month, he hired two operatives in Iowa — Eric Branstad and Alexander Latcham — to cover a “broad political portfolio focused on advancing Save America’s goals of electing strong, Pro-Trump, America First conservatives,” according to a spokesperson.

Trump mentioned his plans to visit Iowa during an appearance on the right wing Todd Starnes radio show on Monday. Multiple Trump aides confirmed plans are in the works. Whether or not Trump decides to enter the race will also not have any bearing on the Iowa GOP caucus. When asked if the caucus will still be open even if Trump decides to run, Iowa GOP spokesperson Kollin Crompton said “yes, absolutely.”

I don’t know about you, but I’m exhausted at the mere thought of Trump’s crazy circus rolling back into town.

–Dana

67 Responses to “Looking To 2024: Donald Trump Heads To Iowa”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (174549)

  2. Dana,

    Better load up on vodka, because he is running. Sorry for you. Sorry for most of the rest of us. It will take jail, illness or death to keep him out of this. Karma demands that you don’t wish for any of that for him.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  3. Marjorie Taylor also went to Iowa, visiting a state fair, but she could’ve just been standing in as a rodeo clown.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  4. As soon as he says he’s not running he stops being the once and future king of the GOP. There is no reason for him to give that up.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  5. Well, as I write, British bettors are giving Trump a 29.8 percent chance of winning the nomination. Add the 2.1 percent and 1.2 percent for the Trump kiddies, and the chance that a Trump will win the nomination is about 1/3. So currently the chance that a Trump won’t win the nomination is about 2/3. (It should be about 95 percent.)

    On the other hand, the trend does not look good. But I think the many, many court cases are going to have a cumulative damaging effect. Trump will lose some of those, and his gullible followers will lose many, many more.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  6. Joe Biden is exhausted by eating jello, answering only scripted questions with notecard answers, from travelling around Camp David in a golf cart like OJ, looking for American citizens.

    I never really got exhausted by Trump, never trumpers yes. Some of them were like dealing with a collie fixated on a tennis ball. With Trump it was easy for me to tune of the “Outrage of the Day” because the country was muddling along fine. Unemployment down around record lows, wages up, foreign drama was limited to nevertrumpers and other Democrats screeching about Putin, Russia, the Ukraine, nothing of actual consequence in the context of the people around the country doing better. Gas prices were down.

    The biggest con wasn’t Trump, it was the con that somehow he was destroying the USA and all its principles.

    “Friend, either you’re closing your eyes
    To a situation you do not wish to acknowledge
    Or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated
    By the presence of a pool table in your community”

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  7. if you don’t like trump, suggest an alternative that you’re willing to own for four years

    you can’t

    wing and a prayer candidates don’t count

    JF (e1156d)

  8. Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Pete Meijer, Justin Amash, Governor Kasich all seem pretty reasonable.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  9. I don’t think he’ll actually run. He just wants attention, now that he’s irrelevant. Besides, mega-donors are not contributing to his campaign or PAC.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/31/trump-gets-little-support-from-major-republican-donors.html

    As the article notes, they’re “tired of the [sh!t] show” and prefer to concentrate their funds on winning back Congress in the mid-terms next year.

    The Trump brand is toxic, and the Republicans who so lamely try to emulate him are in for a rude awakening.

    Gawain's Ghost (c6fd3b)

  10. JF:

    Actually, it is not the job of Joe Pundit to name Republican candidates. The candidates announce themselves.

    Given that the GOP voters and leaders like that man Trump, they should just go ahead and nominate him. If it leads some of us to vote for someone else, that’s the GOP’s problem to solve, not mine. After all, as we are sometimes reminded by our resident Biden hater, we are irrelevant in the GOP.

    I won’t like voting for the next Dem nominee. But I won’t vote for Trump.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  11. JF (e1156d) — 9/1/2021 @ 11:41 am

    I’m writing in Philo Beddoe.

    frosty (f27e97)

  12. Gawain, once again you’re stating what I’m thinking better then I could.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  13. Appalled (1a17de) — 9/1/2021 @ 11:51 am

    Actually, it is not the job of Joe Pundit to name Republican candidates. The candidates announce themselves.

    UNfortunately you can;t draft anyone, or try to.

    The last time that happened was in 1968, when some presidential candidates were put on primary ballots against their will.

    Campaign finance “reform” killed all that.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  14. I did think that Trump is not going to run. But he won’t announce that until at least after the November, 2022 elections. He might endorse someone.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  15. Yeah, Trump actually enjoys the prestige as former President now. I’m sure he’s aware how much more of a hit is “brand” would take if he loses again for 2nd term.

    I’m partial to the following:
    Nikki Haley
    Ron DeSantis
    Tim Scott (not sure he want’s to run)

    whembly (2900b2)

  16. Other Trump Republicans have already made the trip to Iowa this year, including Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Gov. Kristi Noem, Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Marco Rubio, and Sen. Tom Cotton. However, if Trump throws his hat in the ring, it’s anybody’s guess… but it appears that plans are underway for just that…

    The race for the VP slot. If the Captain takes the helm on the bridge, Nikki’s my choice for First Mate.

    _____________

    I don’t know about you, but I’m exhausted at the mere thought of Trump’s crazy circus rolling back into town.

    Suffering through ‘The Lawrence Welk Show’ is what’s exhausting– yet worth the reward of some ‘Fawlty Towers’ comedy.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  17. Don’t completely exclude the possibility that Trump will try to back Trump, Jr. for the nomination. (The bettors haven’t.)

    It’s no secret that Trump is fond of dynasties and monarchies generally, so I can see him backing his son. Who is, if anything, even less qualified than the Donald. Hard as that may be to believe.

    You can decide for yourself whether the 50-1 odds are too low or too high.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  18. @12 Thank you for the compliment, Time123.

    Yeah, Trump is toxic. Always has been, always will be. He is a total fraud. Everything about him is fake, from his hair, his degree, to his libidio. I don’t know about you, but I’ve never paid a woman for sex.

    As long as he is the face of the GOP, the party is going down in flames.

    Several of you have asked who I would vote for. I don’t have an answer to that question yet, but I can tell you who I would vote against. That would be every Trumpublican. They’re all so corrupt and sinister.

    Gawain's Ghost (c6fd3b)

  19. Trump will do everything he can to stay in the spotlight as long as it generates money for him.

    John B Boddie (9f8361)

  20. 17, that’s true but I always felt either Eric or DIL Lara would get the crown, it being of slight coincidence the shadow cabinet has a lot of NC representation (Cawthorn, Meadows, Miller went to Duke)

    urbanleftbehind (d2fad9)

  21. @5. ‘Well, as I write, British bettors are giving Trump a 29.8 percent chance of winning the nomination’

    Uh-huh. Well, Jimbo, having lived there for a number of years, can tell you that isn’t the wisest metric:

    “In April 1964, a 21-year-old English man wrote a letter to British bookmaker William Hill asking the sportsbook what odds it will give him for man to land on the moon. It was months before Ranger 7 would give NASA the first pictures of the lunar surface and time didn’t necessarily appear to be on the side of either the Americans or the Russians.

    So when the mail came back from William Hill soon after, it wasn’t a huge surprise where it set the odds: 1,000-1. The expiration date? Jan. 1, 1971, for any person from any country to land on the moon. The oddsmakers actually weren’t wrong that it was considered a longshot back in 1964. [Just months before, NASA internally had put the chance of a U.S. man meeting John F. Kennedy’s goal and landing on the moon by the end of the decade at 1-in-20.]

    David Threlfell wasn’t necessarily a betting man. He didn’t bet on dogs or horses and later admitted “I’m not really interested in gambling.” But there was something about a moon bet that intrigued him. “It just came to me one day,” Threlfell told David Frost’s show on BBC of his request for the custom bet. And so, he became the first bettor to wager on a moon landing.

    Threlfell placed a 10-pound bet to win 10,000 pounds, which at the time was the equivalent of a $24 bet to win $24,000.

    On July 20, 1969 — five years after placing his wager — Threlfell watched Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin land on the moon and was celebrated live on the BBC’s air.

    Thirty minutes after landing, a William Hill executive presented him with a 10,000 pound check on the show. He would not be taxed because he made the bet before a gambling levy was instituted two years prior. Threlfell said he would give half to his parents and would put some aside to invest in stocks. He also spent $3,000 on a new wardrobe and a good chunk on a cruise to the Bahamas, where he was followed around by British press. At the time, William Hill said it was going to hold off on taking bets on a human landing on Mars, noting the payout it had to make on the moon (Threlfell’s $24,000 is worth $168,000 today). The oddsmakers should have taken it, as they would have been holding money for at least 50 years.

    As for Threlfell, he died the year after winning the bet in a car accident in Scotland.”

    A car accident: what are the odds?!

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  22. 8 – Not one of those rinos have a set of nuts. Never has one of those hacks wanted a budget that would help America.

    mg (8cbc69)

  23. He’s earned it… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/bidencheckswatchlogo.jfif

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. third run for the White House.

    I think it would be his fifth run.

    Mattsky (55d339)

  25. It’s all on the pucker-butted, ousted, out-of-favor, bottom-of-the-deck, out-of-favor, National-Review-type- neocons and conservative ideologues who so hated Trump’s persona, they bolted from the party which the overwhelming majority of members supported, defected and backed the current murderous, incompetent stumblebum out of pure spite. But their time is done; they’ve got no Reagan in their future; it’s Trump’s party now.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  26. DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/1/2021 @ 2:21 pm

    It’s as if these National Review types had no good reason to turn their backs on Trump and plurality who nominated him.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  27. Paul, people vote for who they want. Trump won the primary. The GOP wanted him. If you don’t like it don’t vote for him.

    Time123 (edb5fd)

  28. Dead Richard Nixon is looking better all the time.

    Kevin M (e4323c)

  29. When do they have the pumpkin competition at the state fair? And the hog-calling contest for Taylor-Greene?

    nk (1d9030)

  30. Living in Ma. voting for a conservative never ever happens.
    I will only voted in my Local elections. Dog Catcher, Harbor Master, Golf course beverage cart person, wannabe council members and most important Head of the Mosquito Control Division.

    mg (8cbc69)

  31. Paul, people vote for who they want. Trump won the primary. The GOP wanted him. If you don’t like it don’t vote for him.

    We’re not disagreeing. I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 and Larry Hogan in 2020.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  32. if you don’t like trump, suggest an alternative that you’re willing to own for four years

    I think I just may have. The blue ribbon pumpkin at the Iowa state fair.

    nk (1d9030)

  33. @26. It’s as if these National Review types had no good reason to turn their backs on Trump and plurality who nominated him.

    Conservative whine; bitter dregs. Review the menu: 15 weenies or a T-bone, albeit a little fatty.

    Republicans and Indies passed on the pork and went w/t steak.

    Well done! 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  34. ‘Dead Richard Nixon is looking better all the time.’

    Better??

    No, let’s make this perfectly clear: during The Big Dick’s tenure [1969-1974] he got 21,041 killed in Vietnam.

    But Jimma Carter is: he only got 8 Americans killed at Desert One.

    President Plagiarist killed 13 Americans.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  35. Jimmy will look better when he’s dead, too.

    Kevin M (e4323c)

  36. Nk, are you mocking Trump because he looks like a pumpkin that’s been let sit in the sun too long?

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  37. @35. Jimmy will look better when he’s dead, too.

    There’s a watch-watching Irish Catholic mick who confers with these key advisors hoping for the same:

    [ ] The Magic 8-Ball

    [ ] Ouija Beau’d

    Choose.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  38. Not exactly, Time123. I am mocking Trump because I want show my disdain for him. That he looks like a pumpkin is a taunt suitable to the present context.

    nk (1d9030)

  39. Nk, that makes sense.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  40. President Plagiarist is the only Washington swamp creature in the history the of the United States Senate to wake up in the morning as POTUS, look into the mirror and say,

    “Good morning, Senator. Do I know you?”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  41. “Leave Beau-one-behind,” eh Joe?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  42. The biggest con wasn’t Trump, it was the con that somehow he was destroying the USA and all its principles.

    The ultra-principled Cato the Younger stood up to defend a hyper-corrupt Republic and the Optimates because he thought Caesar was a bigger threat to the long-term health of Rome than the former. If he had seen the forest for the trees, he would have realized that someone like Caesar doesn’t emerge unless the society itself and the elites that run it are fundamentally rotten.

    The mere fact that none of the people currently in charge who botched this thing the last two weeks are going to be held accountable by the Cathedral for the mistakes they made (to say nothing of the last 20 years of venality, arrogance, and unwarranted self-regard) is proof enough that we live in that kind of society now.

    Factory Working Orphan (2775f0)

  43. If this is the face of the Democratic Party in Texas, then they have serious problems.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/01/beto-orourke-democrat-texas-governor-race-506777

    Gawain's Ghost (c6fd3b)

  44. What happened to “I get older, they stay the same” candidacy?

    urbanleftbehind (6560a2)

  45. How much divisiveness, gaslighting, and kiss-my-ring corruption should Americans have to endure?

    Go ahead, Trump supporters, and tell me Biden is guilty of all of these. If you can’t see the difference, both in degree and in kind, then I suspect you run on emotions, and have tribalist tendencies.

    I didn’t vote for either man, but I know which one broke civic norms, and not in a good way.

    norcal (a6130b)

  46. boo hoo
    pouty
    mine
    sophisticated
    never wrong

    mg (8cbc69)

  47. The effort to recall Gov. Gavin Newsom is struggling, new California poll shows
    ……..
    The poll (by the Public Policy Institute of California) found that 58% of likely voters surveyed in California oppose removing Newsom from office compared to 39% who support recalling the governor, a gap rooted in the sharp partisan divide between Democratic and Republican voters in the state.
    ……..
    …….. Newsom has blanketed California with ads attacking the top GOP candidates, casting them as devotees of former President Trump who oppose state mandates for COVID-19 vaccinations and mask wearing, a clear strategy to rally California’s left-leaning electorate.
    ………
    The survey found that 41% of likely voters said California would be worse off if Newsom is recalled, compared to 31% who thought things would get better in the state. The remainder either thought everything would stay the same or did not know. Forty-four percent thought it was appropriate to use the state’s recall process to remove Newsom from office, down from 52% in a similar poll in March.
    ……..
    Nine out of 10 Democratic voters opposed ousting Newsom while 82% of Republicans wanted him gone. Independent voters, who register as “no party preference,” were more evenly split, with 49% opposing the recall and 44% supporting it.
    ………
    However, a separate poll released in late July by the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies, and co-sponsored by the Los Angeles Times, found likely California voters to be almost evenly divided over whether to recall Newsom.

    The difference in the findings reflects the difficulties in determining who may be a “likely voter,” a calculation that is often based on factors such as voting history, interest in the pending election and whether a person plans to vote.
    ……..
    The governor’s attacks in recent weeks have targeted conservative talk show host Larry Elder who has emerged as the favorite among many Trump supporters and evangelicals.
    …….
    Among likely voters, 26% favor Elder, compared to 5% for former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer, and 3% each for Rocklin Assemblyman Kevin Kiley and Rancho Sante Fe businessman John Cox, whom Newsom trounced in the 2018 gubernatorial election. Reality television star and former Olympian Caitlyn Jenner registered at 1%.
    ………
    About a quarter of those polled said they were undecided, and an equal number said they were not going to vote for any replacement candidate or cast a ballot.
    ………

    Related: Who’s voted so far in the California recall? Lots of Democrats, few young people

    I do agree with Elder’s drug enforcement policies. Here he is explaining them in 2016, at the 47:23 point in the video.

    Rip Murdock (aa9cdc)

  48. Take a chance, Rip. Shake things up a bit. It’s for little more than a year. Opposition is good, and I doubt Elder will be all that extreme. If he is, he’s out rather quickly.

    Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good by insisting that Elder denounce Trump. Elder needs votes from the Trump contingent, so he has to at least humor them.

    norcal (a6130b)

  49. @49 I watched the portion of the video you pointed out. I agree with Larry. I had never heard Prohibition referred to as “The War on Alcohol”. I’m going to use that. Thanks!

    norcal (a6130b)

  50. 17. Jim Miller (edcec1) — 9/1/2021 @ 1:04 pm

    You can decide for yourself whether the 50-1 odds are too low or too high.

    Doe high mean rated too probable or rated too improbable?

    n general for these things, the odds for unlikely events are usually too high (meaning considered too probable) Bet against it.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  51. Appearing Tuesday on CNN’s The Lead, The Bulwark editor-at-large and Never Trump pundit Bill Kristol said people in his social circle who voted for President Joe Biden in 2020 will likely not support him again

    ‘Yes we ridiculed everyone who pointed out how insane a vote for Biden/Harris was and yes we put them in there but we’re having second thoughts now based on information not available at the time unless you are a sentient being.’

    Obudman (676dac)

  52. Cap’n Bill and teh Bulwark Boys

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good by insisting that Elder denounce Trump

    I don’t want Elder to denounce Trump. I wish he had the courage to give Trump a full-throated endorsement and have Trump campaign for him.

    Rip Murdock (aa9cdc)

  54. Rip Murdock – that would guarantee that the recall fails. Trump is *exceedingly* unpopular in California.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  55. Yes we ridiculed everyone who pointed out how insane a vote for Biden/Harris was and yes we put them in there but we’re having second thoughts now based on information not available at the time unless you are a sentient being.’

    Not available??

    A 50 year record.

    Kristol’s a goddamned idiot, too.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  56. Rip Murdock – that would guarantee that the recall fails. Trump is *exceedingly* unpopular in California.

    Given that all of the leading recall candidates admitted they voted for Trump, it seems that a Trump supporter can be the next governor.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  57. @51- I watched the portion of the video you pointed out. I agree with Larry. I had never heard Prohibition referred to as “The War on Alcohol”. I’m going to use that. Thanks!

    norcal (a6130b) — 9/1/2021 @ 11:25 pm

    The War on Alcohol

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  58. California voters should do their due diligence and lessen the opportunities to discard their ballots. Be very careful where you drop them.

    Gavin “The Otter” Newsom must go!

    Colonel Haiku (5add1e)

  59. Another day, another lawsuit against the Trump family:

    For the last two years, a GOP Senate candidate in West Virginia has been suing Trump Jr. for defamation. At issue is Trump Jr. claiming during the 2018 campaign that Don Blankenship, whom Trump and his allies opposed in the primary, was a “felon.” That’s false. Blankenship was charged with felonies related to an explosion at a mine he ran, but he was convicted only on a misdemeanor count.

    Trump Jr.’s lawyers sought to have the case dismissed, but U.S. District Court Judge John Copenhaver rejected that Wednesday and said the case could move forward.

    The judge believes that Junior knew he was telling a lie.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  60. #61 NJRobb – If you look at at the RealClear net favorability ratings, you’ll see that Biden still has an edge over Trump (0.6 to -10.8).

    (For the record, I think only Kevin McCarthy’s rating is about right. Biden’s, Pelosi’s, Trump’s, and Schumer’s are all much too high; McConnell’s is much too low.

    Jim Miller (edcec1)

  61. ““We have quite an exhaustive list of people. I won’t tell you who they are.” With those words, House Select Committee Chair Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) confirmed that a subpoena storm was about to be unleashed in the investigation of the Jan. 6 riot in Congress. The targets would include Republican members, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who have already been told to preserve their phone records to be surrendered to the committee. The Democrats are reportedly trying to prove their prior claims that Republicans conspired or assisted “insurrectionists,” even though the FBI reportedly found no evidence of a planned insurrection.

    The Democrats’ move to investigate members of the opposing party is a dangerous precedent in an institution that has always protected the privacy and confidentiality of phone and office records.

    Two months ago, House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) was on practically every network denouncing one of “the most dangerous assaults on our democracy” — meaning the Trump administration’s search of phone log information related to Schiff and Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) while looking for leakers. For his part, Swalwell publicly fretted about this “fragile time for our democracy” if members could have their phone logs seized through secret surveillance orders issued to telephone companies.

    After those disclosures, I testified in Congress on the need for greater protections from secret surveillance for members and reporters alike. At the hearing, the Democratic members expressed nothing short of disgust at the notion of such seizures of member phone logs.

    Thompson has now admitted that he has sent letters to telecommunications companies to preserve documents — including phone logs — for hundreds of people, including members of Congress. He would offer only a type of “the usual suspects” response when asked for specificity: “you know, in terms of telecom companies, they’re the ones that pretty much you already know, maybe the networks, the social media platforms, those kinds of things.””

    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/09/02/subpoena-tsunami-house-democrats-issue-hundreds-of-secret-subpoenas-targeting-gop-colleagues-and-others/

    Wonder what changed….

    Obudman (676dac)

  62. Ted Cruz wishes he could AOCs braids as successfully: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-nikki-haley-hypocrisy_n_6130efafe4b0aac9c013c96a

    urbanleftbehind (6d471f)

  63. Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Pete Meijer, Justin Amash, Governor Kasich all seem pretty reasonable.

    Kasich?

    “Have you ever eaten with one?” – Max Bialystock [Zero Mostel] ‘The Producers’ 1967

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  64. 65… what does Cruz want to do to AOC’s braids, ulb?

    He ain’t lyin’… https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/george_orwell_did_i_call_it_or_what_1-9-21.jpg

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)


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