Gov. Cuomo’s Office Opens Investigation Into Groping Allegations Against…The Governor
[guest post by Dana]
But first, how is this not damning:
Days after Lindsey Boylan became the first woman to accuse Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of sexual harassment in a series of Twitter posts in December, people tied to the governor started circulating an open letter that they hoped former staff members would sign.
The letter was a full-on attack on Ms. Boylan’s credibility, suggesting that her accusation was premeditated and politically motivated. It disclosed personnel complaints filed against her and attempted to link her to supporters of former President Donald J. Trump.
“Weaponizing a claim of sexual harassment for personal political gain or to achieve notoriety cannot be tolerated,” the letter concluded. “False claims demean the veracity of credible claims.”
The initial idea, according to three people with direct knowledge of the events, was to have former Cuomo aides — especially women — sign their names to the letter and circulate it fairly widely.
Multiple drafts were created, and Mr. Cuomo was involved in creating the letter, one of the people said. Current aides to the governor emailed at least one draft to a group of former advisers. From there, it circulated to current and former top aides to the governor.
The report notes that this is a fairly common tactic used in harassment claims:
The use of such tactics in harassment claims is so commonplace that it has its own acronym: DARVO, which stands for “deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender.”
Along with investigations into the allegations against Cuomo being overseen by the state attorney general and the State Assembly, Cuomo’s office has also opened up its own investigation:
Despite the state attorney general’s ongoing investigation into sexual harassment allegations against Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, senior aides to the governor said they are also conducting their own “parallel review” of a female aide’s recent account of being groped by Cuomo at the Executive Mansion late last year.
“We have our own inquiries ongoing,” a senior aide to the governor told the Times Union. “We have an obligation to investigate any claim of sexual harassment. And we, after reporting (the female aide’s allegations) to the (attorney general), were directed to continue our own inquiry. … So there are multiple inquiries.”
The attorney for the woman who accused Cuomo of groping her objected to the “shadow investigation” being done by Cuomo’s office:
It’s absurd. Why would you be doing that? It’s not appropriate, and obviously we’re concerned with the ramifications and the effect on witnesses and the quest for the truth.
What a pig.Dana (fd537d) — 3/18/2021 @ 9:18 am
Well, these tactics worked for Bill Clinton. Obstruction, corrupt use of state power, and witness tampering were part of both impeachment articles. It wasn’t just perjury.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/18/2021 @ 9:33 am
The amount of hypocrisy of this is just appalling…
Holy *bleep*!!!whembly (63cfde) — 3/18/2021 @ 10:56 am
I can’t decide if I’m horrified more over Cuomo’s accusations or if there’s an actual name of a process to defend such accusations.
He’s scum, Dem leaders have called for him to resign but I don’t think he could be shamed into tying his shoes, let alone resigning.Time123 (36651d) — 3/18/2021 @ 11:00 am
I see this turning out like Gov. Northam. Democrats and the media will sound shocked. Demand an investigation. But the investigation will wither on the vine. The shock and outrage will be tabled. Cuomo will remain, just like Northam.
Democrats have never cared about this when one of theirs does it. Never.Hoi Polloi (15cfac) — 3/18/2021 @ 11:41 am
Hoi — in Virginia, the collection of scandals would have handed control of the state to a Republican. That would have been worse than keeping blackface guy in power.
In NY, the Dems rule if Cuomo stays or goes. So I think he goes. Given the type of guy Cuomo is, it may take some powerful shoving.Appalled (1a17de) — 3/18/2021 @ 11:46 am
So you agree with me then.Hoi Polloi (15cfac) — 3/18/2021 @ 11:58 am
I think Cuomo will go.Appalled (1a17de) — 3/18/2021 @ 12:02 pm
I think Lindsey Boylan is lying or exaggerating and her credibility isn’t helped by refusing to co-operate wth the New York State Attorney General’s investigation – and she picked presumably independent people to investigate. But Charlotte Bennett is telling the truth. She was the first person to come forward when Lindsey Boylan asked for other people. She spent 4 hours talking to investigators and has contemporary evidence, She complained about a week after it happened.
Another person also reported one detail that was the same, although the rest of what is alleged is different – that Governor Cuomo called her into his office asked for help with the Notes app of his iPhone. In her case it looked real. Nothing untoward happened then but a bit later he asked her if she’d found him a girlfriend. She told him she was working on it.
This is actually the least serious accusation about Cuomo. More serious is that gives dishonest reasons for doing things; he triangulates everything including Covid restrictions; the dismissal of the Moreland Commission; the Buffalo billion whatever that is; his nursing home edict which he even denied knowing about at first, and would you believe it is reported to be still in effect for group homes for the developmentally disabled; and worst of all, although not a crime, signing the “bail reform” bill in 2019. But I think he must have known and understood what was bad about it.Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/18/2021 @ 12:47 pm
Never is a strong word.
Al Franken and Katie Hill would disagree with it. So would John Conyer’s. That’s off the top of my head.
Also, no sane person thinks wearing blackface as part of an offensive costume 20 years ago is similar to sexual harassment.Time123 (36651d) — 3/18/2021 @ 12:52 pm
Governor Cuomo has practically admitted what Charlotte Bennett has said, with his only lie about that being claiming to be embarrassed. I think that’s what he told his daughters.
The vaccine czar calling county officials and asking them at least not to call for Governor Cuomo’s resignation means something because so many of Governor Cuomo’s decisions have been arbitrary.Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/18/2021 @ 12:56 pm
Nobody had ever heard of the order ,although it was public.
That’s how little news about New York state government is covered in detail.Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/18/2021 @ 1:02 pm
It is something. It sounds…Trumpian.Hoi Polloi (15cfac) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:06 pm
Doonesbury one time ran a cartoon strip that some media censored. He published it in the New Republic and went on with his column. It took a lot to get a comuc strip cancelled altogether. Now Mallard Fillmore ran two controversial cartoons and some publications cancelled his column.
If only the left believed in censorship.Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:12 pm
Here are more details;
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/cuomo-vaccine-czar-called-county-execs-assess-their-loyalty-n-n1261105Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:20 pm
Siena Poll: Voters Say Cuomo Should Not Resign, 50-35%
Voters say 50-35 percent that Governor Andrew Cuomo should not immediately resign. By 48-34 percent, they say he can continue to effectively do his job as governor. One-third of voters say that Cuomo has committed sexual harassment, one-quarter say he has not, and a plurality are unsure. Voters are satisfied with the way Cuomo has addressed the allegations, 57-32 percent, according to a new Siena College Poll of New York State voters, conducted March 8-12, released today.
Voters approve of Cuomo’s handling of the pandemic, 60-33 percent, virtually unchanged from 61-34 percent last month. Voters give Cuomo positive grades on four specifics related to the pandemic – communicating, providing accurate information, reopening plans, and managing the vaccine rollout – however, when it comes to making COVID-related nursing home death data public, voters give Cuomo a negative grade, 27-66 percent.
“While many elected officials – Democrats and Republicans alike – have called for Cuomo’s resignation, by a 50-35 percent margin, the voters of New York say Cuomo should not immediately resign. Nearly two-thirds of Republicans say Cuomo should resign, however, 61 percent of Democrats and 46 percent of independents, a plurality, say he should not,” said Siena College pollster Steven Greenberg. “A majority of New York City voters and a plurality of voters from both upstate and the downstate suburbs say he should not resign.Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:24 pm
Cuomo has a 43-45 percent favorability rating, down significantly from 56-39 percent in February. His job performance rating is 46-52 percent, down from 51-47 percent last month. Currently, 34 percent of voters say they are prepared to re-elect Cuomo if he runs for re-election in 2022 and 52 percent say they would ‘prefer someone else,’ down significantly from 46-45 percent in February.
“Voters appear to be able to compartmentalize how they feel about Cuomo. While their views on him generally – favorability, job performance, re-elect – took a significant hit this month, voters’ views on Cuomo’s handling of the pandemic remain largely positive, except for his handling of nursing home death data,” (Siena College pollster Steven Greenberg) said. “Two-thirds of New Yorkers, including 56 percent of Democrats, give him a negative grade for making public all data about COVID-related deaths of nursing home patients.”
My emphasis. I’m pretty surprised at the results, given the drumbeat of calls to resign. From a partisan perspective, the longer Cuomo hangs around the worse it will be for Democrats.
Governor Cuomo has stated that he will not resign, but when the state’s top Democrats and The New York Times have turned against him, it’s time to start the office pools as to when he’ll be gone. April 1st would be most appropriate! 🙂
But, to me, it’s a stunning lack of perspective. The Governor ordered nursing homes to accept COVID positive patients, when there were other facilities available, and then his government covered up the numbers of fatalities, “saying he had withheld it out of concern that the Trump administration might pursue a politically motivated inquiry into the state’s handling of the outbreak in nursing homes.”
The Democrats aren’t worried about that, nosiree bob! They’re considering impeaching him because he made some crudely suggestive remarks to a few women, and may have touched a couple ‘inappropriately.’ That all appears to be unprovable, but his nursing home shenanigans have been documented.The Dana in Kentucky (fa23a0) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:29 pm
1. I think sexually harrasing young women is a great reason for powerful men to resign.Time123 (b0628d) — 3/18/2021 @ 2:37 pm
2. The nursing home decision was a mistake when he made it, a tragic mistake. But at the time the concern was keeping hospitals from becoming super spreader events. The cover up looks inexcusable, but no one thinks he made that decision expecting it to turn out like it did.
The deaths of thousands is a bit more than a “tragic mistake.” Especially after four years of hyperbolic outrage at every little thing Trump did.Hoi Polloi (b28058) — 3/18/2021 @ 7:12 pm
“Especially after four years of hyperbolic outrage at every little thing Trump did.”
Is it hyperbolic to say that Trump is responsible for more deaths that Cuomo?Davethulhu (6ba00b) — 3/18/2021 @ 7:26 pm
Specifically Trump’s handling of the epidemic.Davethulhu (6ba00b) — 3/18/2021 @ 7:35 pm
Not to the extent that Cuomo is. Cuomo ordered – ordered – sick elderly patients back to their nursing homes, where they inevitably spread the virus among the most susceptible segment of the population.Hoi Polloi (b28058) — 3/19/2021 @ 4:16 am
I wasn’t trying to minimize the severity of the outcome. My point is that at the time that decision was made the events in Italy made it appear that CV19 could overwhelm hospitals and they were trying to prevent that. They were wrong about what the best course was. But the mistake was made while trying to do the right thing. People have a tendency to forgive those types of mistakes. Had he done this for any other reason i think people would feel differently.Time123 (daab2f) — 3/19/2021 @ 4:51 am
The point is that at the time, recall the NY was among the first outbreaks, this wasn’t known to be inevitable. States that were able to form policy after seeing outcomes in NY were able to make better choices. Which is why I think the cover up is a much bigger deal then the initial mistake. It denied people the data needed to make better decisions.
I wish there had been a better coordination of actions and learnings across the different areas in the early part of the crisis.Time123 (daab2f) — 3/19/2021 @ 4:53 am
Agreed, time123. While the die hard partisans never really allow it, I am totally ok with someone in Cuomo’s situation last year admitting that the data shows a decision was wrong, so that it is not repeatedly. Mistaken decisions with high stakes are actually part of the job at Cuomo’s level.
It’s also why partisans are such a dangerous problem. Cuomo gets reliable cover for his mistakes, and he gets reliable flack, so it almost doesn’t matter what the truth is. The only way it really matters is that it contributed to death to cover up the problem.Dustin (4237e0) — 3/19/2021 @ 8:35 am
Governor Cuomo couldn’t admit that his edict – which he tried to avoid responsibility for – it was issued by his |Department of Health – he couldn’t admit that his edict was wrong because he persisted in it for some time after it was called to his attention.
He told two lies (or half truths or maybe quarter truths) that I remember.
This was after it was reversed I think.
First – about forcing nursing homes to take patients they couldn’t take care of: No such thing, he said. Every nursing home (for a long time) had the right to request a transfer of any patient they couldn’t take care of. Which, I don’t know, maybe was true, but did they know? And if they asked would they get help? And wouldn’t a home that said that open itself up to an inspection?? I am sure that Governor Cuomo knew full well why that didn’t happen – and besides he prohibited them from finding out the Covid infection status of a patient before they arrived.
I think Cuomo also knew that most nursing homes ordinarily were not up to the standard they were supposed to be at with regard to infection control. This wasn’t something Cuomo wanted publicized.
The second half truth was in response to a question from a reporter bout one nursing home that had asked that Covid patients being discharged from hospitals be sent to the Javits Center or the USS Comfort, which were barely being used. Governor Cuomo’s answer to that was that was not part of the agreement with the federal government.
An outrageous half truth, because Cuomo had easily arranged for the terms to be changed somewhat earlier.
One more thing. He was accused by the New York Post and others of being responsible for all nursing home deaths. Of course this was not true. Staff were primarily responsible. When the Empire Center for Public Policy finally got the figures they calculated that Cuomo’s edict was probably responsible for only one sixth of the deaths – the rest would have happened anyway. (numbers anyway\
They could find statistical significance only with regard to those nursing homes that otherwise would not have an outbreak – which was only those outside the New York City metropolitan area. Some nursing homes in other parts of the state were seeded with Covid by a discharged hospital patient.
In New York City and its suburbs Covid was already endemic by March 25, and had other ways of getting into a nursing home.
And I say the real root of the problem was barring visitors. There was no one to sound the alarm and maybe pull their family members, in some cases, but of there. And let me say something else: Sending someone who was not infected to a nursing home also risked their deathsbecause they were hotspots. No social distancing there..Sammy Finkelman (daebd1) — 3/19/2021 @ 9:09 am
“Not to the extent that Cuomo is. Cuomo ordered – ordered – sick elderly patients back to their nursing homes, where they inevitably spread the virus among the most susceptible segment of the population.”
The butcher’s bill for Trump’s downplaying of severity of covid, and his support of anti-masking and anti-social distancing easily exceeds Cuomo. His silence while 40% of Republicans are reluctant to get the vaccine (which he claims credit for) will keep piling those bodies up, too.Davethulhu (6ba00b) — 3/19/2021 @ 10:17 am
Trump didn’t dpwnplay mainly the severity of Covid – in thatt interview with Woodward he said it was plenty severe – he downplayed the risk of spread within the United States. And he was beingtold it could be contained.
All the information being issued about contagiousness is still wrong. Fomites or surfaces are virtually irrelevant. Fourteen days is far too long a quarantine period. Social distancing has to be much more to be effective and all those guidelines apply to people without masks. Masks cut the rate in half or maybe 80% of both parties are wearing masks and it can still get it throguh the eyes. The dose of virus is extremely important. Reducing it s very important. Low enough and it amounts too a vaccination – a somewhat dangerous one though.
Ventilation is extremely extremely important so much so that if nobody is coughing or experiencing obvious symptoms, an air exchange of 12 or 18 times an hour like on an airplane or a New York City subway car makes getting a serious case virtually impossible. Six times or four times an hour should be the bare minimum. Note: A person who gets a not too serious case can give others a more serious case as the initial dose os higher. Go through several iterations and you get hospitalizations or worse. Regeneron antibodies work both as a cure and a prophylactic.
We’re getting to see more serious variants – either one in which the vaccine is less effective and the Eli Lilly antibody doesn’t work or just more contagious and spreading faster in the body.
Trump didn’t mislead anybody involved because officials making decisions weren’t getting their information for Trump – at least Democrats were not – but Cuomo potentially misled people about the dangers of nursing homesSammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/19/2021 @ 1:14 pm
Who says you have to be African American to use the race card, or at least borrow it? I knew of course that the race card is a cover for corruption and machine politics but it is interesting to see it so blatant. Note: the two legislative leaders, who are now both black, are not part of this, ad one doesn’t much like Cuomo – he famously once accused her of not understanding the suburbs, and she told him that she was a suurban legislator – representing Yonkers and other part of Westchester.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/nyregion/cuomo-black-leaders.htmlSammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/19/2021 @ 2:22 pm
This shouldn;t be taking as necessarily meaning too much. The fact of the matter is, when Melissa DeRosa claimed to Albany Democrats that the reason Cuomo concealed facts was [to obstruct an federal invsstigation) she was lying.]
Perhaps it was to conceal a near bribe by some lobbying group.Sammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/19/2021 @ 2:45 pm
https://www.propublica.org/article/fire-through-dry-grass-andrew-cuomo-saw-covid-19-threat-to-nursing-homes-then-he-risked-adding-to-itSammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/19/2021 @ 2:52 pm
August 27, 2020:
Aug 26, 2020:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-requesting-data-governors-states-issued-covid-19-orders-may-have-resultedSammy Finkelman (03c829) — 3/19/2021 @ 2:57 pm