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12/3/2020

Insane Lawyers: Real Republicans Will Not Vote Republican in the Georgia Senate Runoffs

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



The Elite Strike Force sez: send a message by not voting for the Republicans!

This seems like a brilliant electoral strategy and I commend Senate Republicans for refusing to condemn this chicanery. I hope they get along well with their newly elected Democrat colleagues from Georgia if True Republicans manage to suppress enough GOP votes to swing the election.

56 Responses to “Insane Lawyers: Real Republicans Will Not Vote Republican in the Georgia Senate Runoffs”

  1. Jim Geraghty at NRO quotes a guy at Brietbart pointing out that Lin Wood last voted in a Republican primary in 2004, and requested Democrat primary ballots in 2006, 2008, 2010, and 2018. Now that of course doesn’t automatically make him a Democrat or a progressive, but it does call into question his fealty to the cause of the GOP.

    Geraghty’s whole column today is a pretty strong indictment of Trump and his enablers.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  2. Anybody else just have an image of Kamala Harris humming “It Don’t Mean A Thing If It Ain’t Got That Swing”?

    nk (1d9030)

  3. I wonder what’s really going on; Are Powell and Wood nuts? Is this just part of the grift?

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  4. I have to admit this is one of the more hilarious turns in this dark political season. Who knows if it amounts to anything, but the spectacle of the moderate paranoid conspiracists having to disavow the really extreme paranoid conspiracists is pretty entertaining. Go for it Sidney! You tell them Linn!

    As for the nuts v. grift conundrum. I’ve always thought that our best grifters, for example our president, do so well just because they’ve sincerely convinced themselves that the dangers faced are real enough to require people to give them large amounts of money to stop them. People love sincerity, even more than intelligence, competence or logic.

    Victor (4959fb)

  5. I should have mentioned too that Geraghty’s column also mentions that pro-Biden groups in Georgia are also working to amplify the “Loeffer and Purdue don’t deserve your vote” message in counties in which Trump performed strongly, so whether they know it or not, Powell and Lin are messaging quite harmoniously with Democrats.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  6. JVW’s link is fascinating. Lin Wood’s a die hard democrat? Loved Obama enough to give him thousands of dollars?

    And his plan is causing permanent damage to the GOP and preys on the caricature of a republican as a thin skinned loser? This guy’s brand has been built on greivance. It’s a grift that isn’t just apathetic to the damage to conservative causes like limited spending or immigration reform. It’s a grift that actually smiles, DCSCA style, when the GOP is plunged into chaos.

    This whole Georgia election is so important to the causes Trump and fans claimed to support. It’s basically do or die. And they aren’t choosing to do.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  7. RIP – Walter E Williams

    His last column today starts with something he’s been pointing out for decades, ignored causes of racial disparity:

    Several years ago, Project Baltimore began an investigation of Baltimore’s school system. What they found was an utter disgrace. In 19 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, out of 3,804 students, only 14 of them, or less than 1%, were proficient in math.

    In 13 of Baltimore’s high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math. In five Baltimore City high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math or reading. Despite these academic deficiencies, about 70% of the students graduate and are conferred a high school diploma — a fraudulent high school diploma.”

    https://richmond.com/opinion/columnists/walter-e-williams-column-black-education-tragedy-is-new/article_64a2d96b-f32f-5d34-b317-0cf305e25ef4.html
    _

    harkin (8fadc8)

  8. This strategy sounds as brilliant as protesting the Republican nominee by voting for Biden.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  9. Works for me. Perdue and Loeffler are insider-trading swap-critters and they won’t be voting on things that affect only Georgians, they’ll be voting on things that affect all of us.

    nk (1d9030)

  10. These lawyers are doing what Trump wants — putting Trump first. Losing the Senate, or even almost losing the Senate, is a message to the GOP that it will fail if Republicans don’t put Trump first. His supporters will gladly ruin the GOP for not showing the proper fealty to Trump. (But how many does he have and how many will it take?) Win or lose, IMO Trump believes only he can fill the power vacuum left in the GOP when this is over.

    DRJ (aede82)

  11. What I think we’re really seeing, though, is a scorpion with sunstroke (the Trump cult) striking blindly with its stinger at everything including itself.

    nk (1d9030)

  12. I cross-posted with DRJ, and I agree. Trump only cares about Trump and so does his cult.

    nk (1d9030)

  13. “JVW’s link is fascinating. Lin Wood’s a die hard democrat? Loved Obama enough to give him thousands of dollars?”

    Who cares? it really doesn’t matter. The real story here is that there are so many dumb people who fall for it. I have friends who I once thought were intelligent people who are true believers. It’s depressing. It’s challenging my belief in human intelligence. Republicans deserve this. They’re tho ones who gave a platform to and elected a ignorant, conspiracy theorizing narcissist to be president of the United States. You know the saying. Elections have consequences.

    Purple Haze (c89a51)

  14. The funny thing is, people who despise Trump and what he stands for and believe that divided government is a good thing will continue the trend and put these two nut jobs Loeffler and Perdue in congress. I wonder. How many of these people who think divided government is good thing now, thought it was a good thing in 2018?

    Purple Haze (c89a51)

  15. I have friends who I once thought were intelligent people who are true believers. It’s depressing.

    It is. Most of the folks I know personally who think the election was stolen are people I care about and (other than this) respect quite a bit. It’s really surreal but they are not bad people, they are, however, being scammed. It’s easier to understand if you really read ace and gateway and other Trumpy sites. They really get you feeling under seige by the scourge of evil liars. Year after year, you wind up just wanting to start winning. It’s sad because these blogs are robbing good people of a sense that they live in a great country and our lives can supercede politics (and should).

    Who cares? it really doesn’t matter.

    Given the massive destruction he’s doing to the GOP, based on the trust Trump fan republicans have for him, it’s relevant that he is actually politically opposed to them. In a way, with the paranoia they have about the deep state, I think this is a good response. There really is a conspiracy to screw the GOP. It’s not from the deep state (not saying there aren’t lefties in the government of course). It’s not from Joe Biden and Dominian. it’s (in my opinion) from sleazy grifter democrats like Lin Wood. Folks like him have done more for Joe Biden and a Democrat Senate majority than nevertrumpers ever did.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  16. This seems like a brilliant electoral strategy

    Yes, but by who?

    Who are these lawyers really working for?

    Sammy Finkelman (5736b6)

  17. My good friend Nancy Pelosi just emailed me to inform me that President Trump will be traveling to Georgia in the next day or two to hold a rally on behalf of Loeffer and Perdue. Sure, she asked me for money, but I do appreciate her giving me the heads-up as to the President’s disposition on these two runoff races.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  18. Now, as long as we are talking about “taking them out and shooting them”….

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  19. These lawyers are doing what Trump wants — putting Trump first. Losing the Senate, or even almost losing the Senate, is a message to the GOP that it will fail if Republicans don’t put Trump first. His supporters will gladly ruin the GOP for not showing the proper fealty to Trump. (But how many does he have and how many will it take?) Win or lose, IMO Trump believes only he can fill the power vacuum left in the GOP when this is over.

    DRJ (aede82) — 12/3/2020 @ 9:46 am

    I think this resolves it. This makes complete sense if the most important thing is the glorification of Trump. It’s not just about money, or GOP winning, it’s about Trump being the center and everyone needing to support him. It doesn’t matter if the GOP controls the Senate or not so long as it’s clear that Trump was cheated and nothing matters without him.

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  20. This strategy sounds as brilliant as protesting the Republican nominee by voting for Biden.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67) — 12/3/2020 @ 9:35 am

    What about Russian Collusion? There must be some aspect of this that’s rendered unimportant in the face of that.

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  21. This strategy sounds as brilliant as protesting the Republican nominee by voting for Biden.

    Considering that the two senators are Trumpian stooges, it serves them right to be thrown under the bus by Trump’s other stooges.

    Let this be a lesson to other Republican senators that bowing to Trump just makes them easier to behead.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  22. Why bother rigging voting machines when you can screw with heads this way?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  23. I remember this was a famous strategy in Risk — “You let me have Kamchatka, or I’ll suicide against you!”

    Here, you don’t even get Kamchatka.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. These lawyers are doing what Trump wants — putting Trump first. Losing the Senate, or even almost losing the Senate, is a message to the GOP that it will fail if Republicans don’t put Trump first.

    A mixed message as both these senators put Trump first. The entire US SCongress should take a moment and censure Donald Trump. It’s even not too late to impeach him again, for sedition.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  25. Let this be a lesson to other Republican senators that bowing to Trump just makes them easier to behead.

    Jeff Sessions says hello.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  26. I seel all of this – the lawyers’ gab, the President’s insistence on going down to Georgia and his angry posturing as signs of his desperation. Any sense of strategy and tactical approaches are out the window, and it’s a panicked emotionalism all the way. It’s like watching a slo-mo implosion of Trump happen in real-time. None of this has much to do with anything other than the President frantically grasping to hold onto the reins of power and refusing to let go. I suspect with each passing day, his claims and actions will become even nuttier than his bizarre hour-long rant about election fraud posted yesterday. When panicked and desperate, people lose all semblance of logic and reason, and instead, decisions are made by out of control emotions and fear.

    This unintentional self-sabotaging eventually leads to chaos:

    Donald Trump’s sustained attacks on the integrity of Georgia’s presidential election tally are threatening the Republican Senate majority — and GOP senators are starting to fret.

    Even as the key battleground states have certified their results and Trump’s legal challenges are crumbling, the president is refusing to let go of his baseless claims of widespread voter fraud and fight to overturn the election results. Moreover, the official presidential transition is already in motion, and President-elect Joe Biden received his first presidential intelligence briefing on Monday.

    But Republicans are increasingly seeing Trump’s posture as not just rhetoric. They view it as a self-serving quest that could imperil the GOP’s grip on the Senate by depressing turnout in two runoffs races that will decide which party controls the upper chamber. And they are publicly hoping he will refrain from pushing his false fraud claims when he visits the Peach State this week to campaign for Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler.

    Dana (cc9481)

  27. Wood’s record of Democrat support is not unlike Trump’s pre-2011 record of Democrat support.
    The weird thing is that Breitbart is only going after Wood, not QAnon fruitcake Powell who also told Republicans to stay home on 1/5/2021.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  28. “It’s not from Joe Biden and Dominian. it’s (in my opinion) from sleazy grifter democrats like Lin Wood. Folks like him have done more for Joe Biden and a Democrat Senate majority than nevertrumpers ever did.”

    It goes deeper than that. There will always has been and always will be grifters. The problem is, you can’t trust the liberal media. The epiphany came to me in 2008 after Obama had won election and Sean Hannity stood on a piece fallowed land in California’s San Joaquin Valley and took a complicated problem that had been decades in the making and performed a partisan dog and pony show called the “The Valley Hope Forgot”. Fox News was fair and balanced. It was the only news source conservatives could trust and never questioned. That changed when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee. They gave the narcissistic grifter a platform to promote his conspiracy theories, and how many conservatives called BS on it? If you can’t trust the liberal media, and Fox News is now the Ministry of Trump propaganda, who does a conservative trust these days? Newsmax? OANN?

    Purple Haze (c89a51)

  29. And not just Flynn, Wood and Powell, our president also likes the cut of QAnon’s jib, enough to derail a meeting.

    In a White House meeting about keeping the Senate with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Sen. Todd C. Young (R-Ind.) and other aides, a discussion about the state took a wild turn when Trump brought up House candidate Marjorie Taylor Greene’s support of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, according to people familiar with the discussion.

    “Q-an-uhn,” he said, mispronouncing the name of the group, telling those present that it is made up of people who “basically believe in good government.” The room was silent again before Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, leaned forward to say he had never heard it described that way. Trump had similarly praised QAnon, which the FBI has identified as a potential domestic terrorist threat, during an August news conference.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  30. Wisconsin Supreme Court declines to hear Trump campaign challenge to election results
    The Wisconsin Supreme Court on Thursday declined to take up a challenge to the presidential election filed by Trump’s campaign, ruling that under state law, Trump should have sought a hearing first in a lower-level court.
    …….
    One conservative member of the panel, Brian Hagedorn, joined the court’s three more liberal members in declining to take the case.

    In a concurring opinion, he wrote, “We do well as a judicial body to abide by time-tested judicial norms, even — and maybe especially — in high-profile cases. Following the law governing challenges to election results is no threat to the rule of law.”

    Hagedorn wrote that he had determined the court should decline to take the case so the Trump campaign could “promptly exercise” its right to seek action in a lower court.

    Trump’s campaign had argued the matter was of such pressing and urgent concern that it should be considered immediately by the high court…….
    …….
    Under state law, a candidate gets five days to file such a challenge, a window that will close on Monday.
    …….
    Rules for thee, but not for me.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  31. Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor As Trump Boosts Fraud Claims
    ……
    “I just learned of absolute incontrovertible evidence of North Korean boats delivering ballots through a harbor in Maine, the state of Maine,” Stone said. “If this checks out, if law enforcement looked into that and it turned out to be true, it would be proof of foreign involvement in the election.”
    ……
    Isn’t Maine a bit off the beaten path for North Korea? SeaTac would be closer.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  32. And not just Flynn, Wood and Powell, our president also likes the cut of QAnon’s jib, enough to derail a meeting.

    But .. but .. but Loeffler supports QAnon! Is there no honor among whackjobs?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/lincoln-project-kelly-loeffler-qanon-gop-senator-georgia-b1580101.html

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  33. Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor As Trump Boosts Fraud Claims

    Sorry, but that’s not the nuttiest stuff today. General Flynn retweets a broadside from the self-proclaimed Tea Party affiliate WTPC which calls on Trump to impose martial law to force a re-vote — under military control — “a vote that all Americans can trust and live by regardless of the winner!”

    https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/WTPC-Urges-Limited-Martial-Law

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  34. Wow, Reggie Stone is truly a gift.

    My guess is he realizes his relevance is nearly expired, and he’s only going to have the Proud Boy thugs behind him so long has he has money and media attention, and he’s not feeling very safe at the moment.

    john (cd2753)

  35. a message to the GOP that it will fail if Republicans don’t put Trump first.

    A mixed message as both these senators put Trump first.

    One can never really do enough in putting Trump first.

    Maybe Trump would be happy to see Dems get the Senate majority because it obviously irks him greatly that down-ballot Rs did so much better than he did. Same for the Trump superfans who are still claiming that down-ballot Rs won because of Trump. They want to believe that only a targeted fraud against Trump can explain why other Rs did better. I think they don’t want to see any more evidence that a lot of people who prefer R policies can’t stand Trump.

    Radegunda (b63b53)

  36. @15 It’s really surreal but they are not bad people, they are, however, being scammed. It’s easier to understand if you really read ace and gateway and other Trumpy sites.

    There’s another kind of Trump loyalist that’s harder to explain: the people who are obviously smart and well educated, and who don’t rely on Ace and Gateway, but will go down every last rabbit hole to defend Trump against what they envision as a massive conspiracy by the Deep State against Truth and Goodness and the American Way.

    Maybe for some it’s just a matter of not wanting to reassess their decision to get on the Trump Train in the first place. But I think there’s also a parallel to the “credulity of the intellectuals” that some of those people have spoken of in their critiques of leftists. The basic idea is: some people think they demonstrate their intellectual superiority by grasping the truth of what looks nonsensical to most people.

    Alternatively, some people think that being fully onboard with the most cultish Trump fans is a way of proving they’re not really the prim elitists that others thought they were.

    Radegunda (b63b53)

  37. Trump aide banned from Justice after trying to get case info

    The official serving as President Donald Trump’s eyes and ears at the Justice Department has been banned from the building after trying to pressure staffers to give up sensitive information about election fraud and other matters she could relay to the White House, three people familiar with the matter tell The Associated Press.

    Heidi Stirrup, an ally of top Trump adviser Stephen Miller, was quietly installed at the Justice Department as a White House liaison a few months ago. She was told within the last two weeks to vacate the building after top Justice officials learned of her efforts to collect insider information about ongoing cases and the department’s work on election fraud, the people said.

    Stirrup is accused of approaching staffers in the department demanding they give her information about investigations, including election fraud matters, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.
    …….
    Stirrup had also extended job offers to political allies for positions at some of the highest levels of the Justice Department without consulting any senior department officials or the White House counsel’s office and also attempted to interfere in the hiring process for career staffers, a violation of the government’s human resources policies, one of the people said.
    …….
    On Thursday, Trump appointed Stirrup to be a member of the board of visitors of the U.S. Air Force Academy, according to a White House press release.
    ……

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  38. #12

    I usually vote for me. But since I don’t want to have to get me put on the ballot and god forbid win and go to Washington DC, I just vote for whomever seems more likely to let me keep more of my money.
    I’m greedy, not a cult member. I’m not going to dye my skin orange and create an elaborate comb over, but I’ll give a faint “huzzah” and fake some enthusiasm if it’ll knock 5 points off my long term capital gains taxes

    steveg (43b7a5)

  39. I wonder what’s really going on; Are Powell and Wood nuts? Is this just part of the grift?

    A relative from Wisconsin says it pretty well to me.
    “Seems that officials, and well, ALL self-appointed important people are colluding and succeeding at sowing confusion. I read the federal judge’s ruling on the Wisconsin filing by Powell and wood. What pathetically incompetent legal work! To read that van orden’s name was listed as a plaintiff, and he had not signed on… what was happening on that? He ran a nearly successful campaign against a popular incumbent. He tweeted out that he was not involved. Very strange to me that the two lawyers would make such a major error. Made me suspect that the lawsuit was simply keeping the mud stirred. Then today , lunchtime reading, I read about how those two lawyers are rallying republicans in Georgia to NOT vote. Huh? Wood is a contributor to democrats. Huh? I am beginning to think that these two are snakes. They might be onto truth about election fraud, but they are working to discredit the evidence, using any method possible, including appearing incompetent. Including advocating “righteousness” by boycotting an election.”

    Marci (405d43)

  40. Oh. And by the way. This relative is VERY anti-Trump. No bias favoring him.

    Marci (405d43)

  41. A meme of Powell peeling off her face to be Hillary Clinton would not be off the mark.

    urbanleftbehind (c2f378)

  42. Trump likes chaos because it lets him continue to raise money from his supporters.

    DRJ (aede82)

  43. Trump will undoubtedly take credit for any GOP win, but I think Trump is looking for someone else or something else to blame if one or both Republicans lose. He undoubtedly remembers the Cruz-Beto Senate race in Texas:

    The early voting period kicked off Oct. 22 with Trump’s rally for Cruz, which was held at the Toyota Center in Houston. Trump’s campaign claimed over 100,000 people requested tickets for the event, and local news showed long lines of people waiting to get into the 18,000-seat arena hours in advance.

    But if Cruz was looking for a boost from his former rival, the opposite appeared to happen. Before Trump’s visit, Cruz’s internal numbers had him leading by double digits statewide. In the days after, his lead dropped to 5 points.

    Maybe Georgia voters are very different than Texans but the close races in both States tell me they aren’t that different.

    DRJ (aede82)

  44. I have friends who I once thought were intelligent people who are true believers. It’s depressing.

    It is. Most of the folks I know personally who think the election was stolen are people I care about and (other than this) respect quite a bit. It’s really surreal but they are not bad people, they are, however, being scammed. It’s easier to understand if you really read ace and gateway and other Trumpy sites.

    I gave up trying to understand it a long time ago. I just embrace the cognitive dissonance.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  45. Electing Dems to own the libs would be the most 2020 thing yet. But these votes are 2021, so it won’t happen.

    (That’s my attempt to use the power of my always-wrong political prognostication against Perdue and Loeffler. We’ll see how it works out. I doubt well.)

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  46. It’s not enough for Georgia Republicans to boycott the senate runoffs. They must vote for both Democrats!

    If Warnock and Ossoff both win with 100% of the vote, it will PROVE the presidential election was rigged!

    Dave (1bb933)

  47. 6. Dustin (4237e0) — 12/3/2020 @ 9:22 am

    Lin Wood’s a die hard democrat? Loved Obama enough to give him thousands of dollars?

    Sounds like a double agent. But who recruited him? Doesn’t have to be anyone who is involved in Democratic Party. Could be some person or group
    with an interest in legislation. Or a foreign country? Some people say all this is just to make money through fundraising.

    Rudy Giuliani had to repudiate or shush one of his own witnesses in Michigan today according to CBS News. They ran a clip of her claiming more votes were cast some place than there were voter.

    Mike Flynn proposes that Donald Trump declare martial law and hold a new election. What happened to the constitution. He could scare people.

    Sammy Finkelman (081278)

  48. For Mike Flynn, sometimes you have to burn the constitution to save the constitution.

    It’s totally un-possible to believe that 7 million more people voted for not that friggin’ guy….or maybe it’s totally rational.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (1367c0)

  49. Speaking of insane lawyers, or is it lawyers practicing insanely, here’s the story about the elite member of the Elite Strike Force.

    Four years ago, Jenna Ellis was a young Colorado attorney practicing in county courts, defending clients in domestic-abuse cases and teaching legal classes at a local Christian university.
    […]
    In her online bios, Ms. Ellis has portrayed herself as “an experienced defense attorney who was formerly an attorney for the U.S. Department of State and a Colorado prosecutor.” She also has described herself as a constitutional-law attorney and as having “extensive experience in litigation in both trial and appellate levels.”
    Ms. Ellis’s work as a prosecutor lasted about six months, during a stint in Weld County, Colo., that started in September 2012, about a year after she graduated from the University of Richmond School of Law in Virginia. She handled traffic cases and other misdemeanors, the Weld County District Attorney’s office said.

    Ms. Ellis confirmed she was fired as a Weld County prosecutor in early 2013. She said she was fired because she refused to bring a case to trial that she believed was an unethical prosecution. A spokeswoman for the Weld County district attorney’s office declined to comment, citing human-resources rules.

    As for the State Department, she doesn’t appear in federal payroll records as an agency employee. She was listed in one contract-dispute case decided in 2013 as a lawyer for IE Discovery, a firm providing legal-discovery help to the State Department. The State Department didn’t respond to a request for comment.

    Ms. Ellis confirmed she worked for IE Discovery, saying she was there about six months.

    After leaving the Weld County prosecutors’ office, Ms. Weld worked as a criminal-defense attorney in Colorado in several small local practices. In Colorado court records, she was listed as a lawyer in about 30 state-court cases, mostly representing defendants in low-level felonies or misdemeanors initiated between 2012 and 2016. One of those cases was before an appeals court.
    […]
    As for Ms. Ellis’s claim to be a constitutional-law attorney, a search in federal courts database PACER doesn’t turn up any listing of Ms. Ellis as an attorney in any federal case. She isn’t currently permitted to practice in federal court in Colorado because she didn’t pay a fee the court assesses to lawyers practicing there, a federal-court staffer said.

    Ms. Ellis began building her national profile through conservative Christian legal circles, carving a niche as a self-identified constitutional-law specialist. In 2015, she self-published a book, through WestBow Press, “The Legal Basis for a Moral Constitution: A Guide for Christians to Understand America’s Constitutional Crisis.”
    […]
    From 2016 through 2018, Ms. Ellis taught at Colorado Christian University, initially as an affiliate faculty member and later as an assistant professor of legal studies, a school spokesman said. The university doesn’t have a law school.

    Ms. Ellis wasn’t initially a Trump supporter, but after the 2016 election she began writing in support of Mr. Trump and boosted her national profile by contributing regular blog posts to the conservative Washington Examiner, which has identified her as a “professor of constitutional law.” In 2018, she joined the Trump campaign’s 2020 advisory board.

    About a year later, the president began noticing her appearances on Fox News, according to a person familiar with the matter, and praised her to aides as a talented and aggressive defender.

    And there you have it. She wasn’t picked by Trump for her CV or legal accomplishments, she was a pretty face on FoxNews who told Trump what he wanted to hear. After the WI Supreme Court case today, Trump’s record in court is 1-41.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  50. Mike Flynn is a traitor in the pay of Russia and Turkey, paid to make America look no different than those two sh!tholes.

    nk (1d9030)

  51. Prominent California Democratic strategist Nathan Ballard — a longtime friend and adviser to Gov. Gavin Newsom — was arrested and jailed on two felony domestic violence charges in Napa that include an allegation of attempting “to suffocate a child with a pillow.”…

    The former San Francisco deputy city attorney has been called a “media whisperer” for his high profile roles as the mouthpiece and crisis communications point person for a parade of public figures and A-list corporate clients. He served as spokesperson for then-San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, a role he has also played for the Democratic National Committee and the California Democratic Party, the Getty family, the Golden State Warriors, the Super Bowl and for the presidential campaigns of former Sen. John Kerry and Gen. Wesley Clark.

    In other news.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  52. Just thinking of the pressure Trump is putting on Georgia officials to side with him on the election…

    If the President were to break the law and actually steal an election, could he then pardon himself? After all, it is not YET a part of an impeachment process. Wouldn’t the ability to pardon himself shield him from investigations/oversight and possibly lead to authoritarian rule, especially if his own party had a substantial majority in Congress at that point? This year has proven that this is not necessarily out of the realm of possibility.

    For these reasons, and more, I doubt the Supreme Court would allow a Presidential self-pardon. The odds that a corrupt President would eventually hold the office are 100%. It makes no sense to give that person virtually unlimited powers.

    Trump would have Obama, Hillary and Biden in jail today, if he could get away with it. I wish I were exaggerating.

    noel (9fead1)

  53. There is no pardon for an ongoing criminal enterprise. The crime, including the termination of any benefits derived from it, must have become complete and discrete by the time of the pardon.

    For example, even if Flynn’s pardon purports to be for every crime he might have committed before December, the traitor can still be tried for treason, subversion, sedition, and bribery as he has continued to sell out America.

    nk (1d9030)

  54. There is no pardon for an ongoing criminal enterprise. The crime, including the termination of any benefits derived from it, must have become complete and discrete by the time of the pardon.

    Unless Flynn’s pardon also comes with $50M cash, I think you can count on him trying to sell himself to anyone willing to pay.

    There are legal ways to profit from his standing, but then you have to do the tedious work of actually running a business and following those standards. McKinsey, Bain, BCG would have happily made him a partner or principal for a high 6 figure salary, probably starting with a 4 or 5, with fat bonuses and an even more attractive pension. No longer of course, but he wanted the quick pay day of directly getting the $600k from Turkey to sign his name on their propaganda, instead of the as a “consulting engagement”.

    Yeah, yeah, same result, just “following the rules”. But that’s the hallmark of the Trump party, why be minimally competent and follow the rules, when you can be lazy and just get pardoned.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (0b85c6)


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