Trump Expands His Ban
[guest post by Dana]
…with our Country, the United States Military, Government Contractors, and Grantees. Americans should be taught to take PRIDE in our Great Country, and if you don’t, there’s nothing in it for you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 22, 2020
Chew on this.Dana (292df6) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:22 pm
Heh! Also snicker and snort. We should have an election every two months. Okay, okay, every three months.nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:29 pm
Biden will just reinstate it. We all love Biden.beer ‘n pretzels (25b6ed) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:33 pm
I think there was a line back there someplace.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:35 pm
I wonder how this affects places like the UC system, where adherence to inclusion and diversity (for selected groups) is required for employment.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:37 pm
There is nothing for Biden to reinstate. This sleight of hand by Trump will be as meaningless, inconsequential, and ineffectual as anything else he has done.nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:40 pm
Anybody else get a queasy feeling in your Constitution when a President boasts about having “BANNED” something? And did you like my pun?JVW (ee64e4) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:46 pm
Wait a minute. I thought it was Trump who has the “divisive and harmful sex and race-based ideologies”. Ban him!Paul Montagu (4a1ef8) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:56 pm
Just more Pavlovian conditioning for the cultists.Dave (1bb933) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:59 pm
Oh no, where will Americans get their revisionist history if government agencies and school systems don’t ram it down their throats?Hoi Polloi (dc4124) — 9/22/2020 @ 6:59 pm
It could be a way to take away the production of the F-35 and other weapons systems from American companies and outsource them to Russia and Turkey. Or it could be a way to force those companies to “Dinesh D’Souza” some fake campaign bundling his way. But more likely it’s an orange baboon posturing for his nose-pickers and it will be struck by the first judge it comes before. Orange baboons who stumbled into the Oval Office do not tell Americans how to be Americans. How to peel bananas with our feet? Maybe.nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:03 pm
I think not hating your country is a prerequisite to government contracts, i know baby steps.Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:09 pm
PRIDE: “Personal Responsibility In Daily Effort” was a term NASA management used to support, remind and rally engineers and technicians during the assembly, test and retesting of America’s manned spacecraft- particularly in the Apollo program after the 1967 fire.DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:10 pm
I see someone finally told him we weren’t teaching any of that in the fed and since he didn’t have anything to crow about actually banning, he decided to try again.
First amendment anyone?Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:15 pm
So did he get this idea from Putin, Xi or Kim?Dave (1bb933) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:18 pm
First Amendment, indeed.nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:19 pm
@12 You are Americaning badly again. Here, in this country, you are allowed to hold all kinds of lousy opinions.Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:19 pm
So did he get this idea from Putin, Xi or Kim?
Louis DeJoy?nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:22 pm
Americaning As a verb. I approve.Dana (292df6) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:25 pm
Pointing out the plain truth brands you as a nazi collaborator.
https://mobile.twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1308403312501362694Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 9/22/2020 @ 7:43 pm
@19 TYVM 😛Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 8:17 pm
First amendment anyone?
nega, nega, negabeer ‘n pretzels (cfe23d) — 9/22/2020 @ 8:40 pm
“Cans of tuna fish. They go out and buy tuna fish and soup. You know that, right?…Because they throw it. It’s the perfect weight, tuna fish, they can really rip it, right? And that hits you. No, it’s true. Bumble Bee brand tuna.”Davethulhu (c5e21e) — 9/22/2020 @ 8:48 pm
@20 Are your statements intended to be connected to the link you post, or are you posting a thought and then posting a link to something else unrelated you also thought was interesting? Often it seems like they should be related and then if I check the link they aren’t. (nobody in that twitter stream was calling reaboi anything bad, in fact they are all agreeing with him.)
@22 Clearly an f’d-up thing done by one stupid group of not-the-government people is an excuse for the president also doing an f’d up thing. Wait, no it isn’t.
@23 This is some kind of comedy routine, right? Next a guy in funny shoes and a silly hat slaps him upside the head with a fish, right? And then squirts water in his face from a fake buttonier? And says “woopwoop brreeep?” and peddles off stage on his unicycle? Right? Please?Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:00 pm
Clearly an f’d-up thing done by one stupid group of not-the-government people is an excuse for the president also doing an f’d up thing. Wait, no it isn’t.
Both f’d up things are equally relevant to the First Amendment. Maybe less diversity training and more Constitution training.beer ‘n pretzels (cfe23d) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:09 pm
@25 1. I think firing the prof was also a first amendment issue.
2. A group of stupid not-government people doing something is not the same as the government doing it. If a 10th grader punches a 9th grader, it’s a bad decision. If I punch a 9th grader, it’s Serious Trouble and A Major Problem.Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:13 pm
A group of stupid not-government people doing something is not the same as the government doing it.
True. That has nothing to do with whether it’s a First Amendment issue, which it isn’t. (And, neither is the nega f’d up thing.)beer ‘n pretzels (a4febf) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:19 pm
@27 How is the government discriminating against people based on nothing more than their legal speech not a first amendment issue?Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:23 pm
“Dinesh D’Souza” some fake campaign bundling his way.
Dinesh faked it up for a friend’s ridiculous vanity campaign. But no harm-no foul doesn’t work when you are in the club.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:29 pm
First amendment anyone?
There is no first amendment for government contractors. Among other things you cannot make federal campaign contributions, or engage in partisan politics. There are also security clearances, workplace conduct rules, etc.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:31 pm
@28: They’re not discriminating against people, nor is it discrimination based on speech.
It doesn’t sound like you’re aware of all the many, many restrictions the government places on contractors as a condition of getting all those federal $$$. Much like the restrictions on colleges as a condition of getting federal aid.beer ‘n pretzels (d6c4fd) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:33 pm
Here, in this country, you are allowed to hold all kinds of lousy opinions.
Try chanting “Allahu akbar” as you work in the TS SCIF.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:33 pm
How is the government discriminating against people based on nothing more than their legal speech not a first amendment issue?
Contractors who force their employees to endure “seminars” and “retreats” aimed at denigrating them, their ethnicity or their nation are not engaging in protected speech. They are committing workplace harassment.Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:36 pm
He doesnt seem to understand this basic truth.Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:51 pm
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! With only 42 days to go before the election, Trump discovers America! Extra! Extra! Read all about it!nk (1d9030) — 9/22/2020 @ 9:56 pm
thats a real game changer mr nkDave (1bb933) — 9/22/2020 @ 10:01 pm
@32 So if you are Muslim doing your daily prayer, you can be fired just for that? I think you probably can’t be.
@33 I mean, you can probably argue it, otoh, I have to do all kinds of yearly trainings.
@34 You don’t seem to understand that Americans who disagree with your opinion (or work for people you disagree with, or sell stuff to people you disagree with, or generally interact in any way with any ideas you disagree with) are still Americans.Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 10:40 pm
With the newspaper having chased garbage leads for four years, rufo having unconvered how much of this mind arson is rife in the govt, but youre fine with this garbage.Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 9/22/2020 @ 10:57 pm
@38 Everyone has the right to their own idiocy. Flat earthers, anti-vaxers, Qanon, people who voted for Jill Stein, moon landing conspiracy theorists, people who voted for Trump. You don’t get to decide that I can’t talk, I don’t get to decide that you can’t talk. We have only a very few specific laws limiting speech and if you aren’t violating them you can, for the most part, say what you want. You are allowed to be a communist, or an anarchist, or a prepper, or even a monarchist if you want. You can want a Christian Theocracy or a Muslim theocracy, or a Norse pagan theocracy. Walmart can sell trash products made in China and you can buy them, or you can boycott them, but they have the right to do it. A law firm can work for an accused rapist or murderer or a company the polluted the land so much that all the children have birth defects, or even a foreign national. Freedom doesn’t just mean that you and your version of terrible ideas get to be free, it means that everyone else and their version of terrible ideas also get to be free.Nic (896fdf) — 9/22/2020 @ 11:30 pm
As someone who in 2016 purchased a tshirt that said I’m voting for Harambe, I agree with Trump 100% on this. As leader of the Federal government it’s his job to set the policy for the employees and to to decide who gets to do business with the Federal government. This does just that and in a very American way. Before you criticize it read the whole order and not just the stupid tweet:
JVW how can you be uncomfortable with this but ok with DeVos investigating Princeton?anounymouse (e2ed1b) — 9/23/2020 @ 3:20 am
I’ll agree with you to this extent, anonymouse: Trump is a master at baiting people.nk (1d9030) — 9/23/2020 @ 5:52 am
No youre telling that the organization mission is to abolish the united states, iconsider that as real sedition if not treason.Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 9/23/2020 @ 6:06 am
Doesn’t trump already have pretty much 100% of the “Aggrieved white people” vote? I assume this is a ploy to change the topic to grievance politics.
Also, I’ve taken classes like this at work. They’re boring and didn’t feel anything like an attack on white men / communist indoctrination.
We had a refresh recently after a semi-famous and affluent black woman got shabby treatment at a retail outlet that sells our product. She mentioned it on Twitter and the sales team re-emphasized that potential customers should all be treated really well regardless of how they look.Time123 (b4d075) — 9/23/2020 @ 6:17 am
So they’re radical communists, then?Dave (1bb933) — 9/23/2020 @ 7:00 am
He likes banning everything.Celeb Networth (1f80e9) — 9/23/2020 @ 9:15 am
The conversation was frank. “We need to treat poorly dressed young minorities as well as you would a repeat customer because there’s a chance they will buy, now or in the future. People remember respect.” They threw in the normal stuff about diversity and values as well. But the brass tacks were spelled out.Time123 (b4d075) — 9/23/2020 @ 9:28 am
Did anyone actually read the whole order that I linked to as was quoted in the Daily Wire? The order basically outlaws racism by not allowing critical race theory to be taught! How does that translate to abolish the United States? Do I think that Trump knows what critical race theory is much less how to spell it? No I do not. But when a golden nugget comes out this administration I think credit should be given.anounymouse (e2ed1b) — 9/24/2020 @ 2:01 am
The most aggrieved persons of color are the orange ones.nk (1d9030) — 9/24/2020 @ 5:12 am
Any other ideas you think the government should “outlaw”?Dave (1bb933) — 9/24/2020 @ 8:37 am