Patterico's Pontifications

9/10/2020

Trump Love

Filed under: General — Dana @ 3:27 pm



[guest post by Dana]

About Trump and Kim Jong Un:

Woodward wrote that Trump said he was impressed with Kim when he first met the North Korean leader in Singapore in 2018 and that Kim was “far beyond smart.” Trump also said that Kim “tells me everything” and even gave the president a graphic account of how Kim had his own uncle killed.

As he engaged in nuclear arms talks with Kim, Trump dismissed intelligence officials’ assessments that North Korea would never give up its nuclear weapons. Trump told Woodward that the CIA has “no idea” how to handle Pyongyang.

Trump also dismissed criticism about his three meetings with Kim, claiming the summits were no big deal. Critics said that by meeting Kim, Trump provided the North Korean leader with legitimacy on the world stage.

“It takes me two days. I met. I gave up nothing,” said the president, who likened North Korea’s attachment to its nuclear arsenal to somebody who is in love with a house and “they just can’t sell it.”

Kim welcomed Trump’s attention, calling the president “your excellency” in a letter. Kim wrote to Trump that he believed the “deep and special friendship between us will work as a magical force.”

This morning, in order to quell rumors that Kim Jong Un’s health is precarious, and that he might be in a coma, His Excellency took a moment to reassure us that all is well:

Note:

Mr Woodward also gained access to 25 letters exchanged between Mr Trump and Mr Kim, which were described by the president as “love letters”.

According to CNN, which reported it obtained transcripts of two of the letters, Mr Kim…is liberal in his use of flowery language when describing his relationship with the president.

My explanation for the bizarre tweet: With an upcoming election, a never-ending pandemic, civil unrest in our major cities, and one side of the country engulfed in flames, it became a little much for him, so he needed a momentary escape, and went to that special place where His Excellency is adored and loved. Even if the adoration is from an evil and murderous monster.

–Dana

81 Responses to “Trump Love”

  1. Oh sure, let me have it while ignoring that the President of the United States is pen-pals with one of the world’s worst human beings ever.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. Hey, that Bass lady that was on the short list for Biden and was bounced because she was Fidel curious/apologist in the past. Trump’s a full on fanboi for Kim Jong Un. Currently, Fidel is dead, Un is threatening the US and our allies with nuclear war.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  3. mr. president donald trump, who chose bone spurs over coffee-flavored kisses and a bit of conversation, is obviously trying to change the subject, Ms. Dana

    he wants us to talk about his love for kim jong un instead of his lies about the coronavirus

    he is a very positive-thinking person that way

    and, besides, isn’t love what the world needs now?

    nk (1d9030)

  4. He could spew hatred for Kim, or write fawning tweets. Neither will stop Kim from doing what he is doing.

    We could all start boycotting Chinese goods and services to bring about change in a country that needs our dollars.

    But that won’t happen. We’ll just pretend rattling sabers against North Korea will matter at this point.

    Hoi Polloi (093fb9)

  5. the President of the United States is pen-pals with one of the world’s worst human beings ever

    Meanwhile, another POTUS sent a signed copy of the word of God– and a cake– to “the world’s worst human beings ever…”

    President Ronald Reagan signed a Bible that was sent secretly to Iranian officials in 1986. -washintgtontimes.com


    MCFARLANE TOOK CAKE AND BIBLE TO TEHERAN, EX-C.I.A. MAN SAYS

    By Bernard Gwertzman, Special To the New York Times Jan. 11, 1987

    ‘A retired Central Intelligence Agency official has confirmed to the Senate Intelligence Committee that on the secret mission to Teheran last May, Robert C. McFarlane and his party carried a Bible with a handwritten verse from President Reagan for Iranian leaders.

    According to a person who has read the committee’s draft report, the retired C.I.A. official, George W. Cave, an Iran expert who was part of the mission, said the group had 10 falsified passports, believed to be Irish, and a key-shaped cake to symbolize the anticipated ”opening” to Iran… Today, a senior State Department official independently confirmed that Mr. McFarlane, a former national security adviser, did carry the Reagan Bible as authentication for the group. But he said he was not sure about the cake and declined to discuss the passports.

    The Irish Government complained publicly when the reports appeared that the McFarlane group had carried Irish passports.

    The report noted that Mr. McFarlane, in his testimony, said he had carried his own United States passport but had never had to show it. One earlier report said Lieut. Col. Oliver L. North carried all the fake passports. When asked in November about the Iranian reports, Mr. McFarlane dismissed as fiction many of the details, such as that the participants were wearing disguises.

    According to participants in the trip, the McFarlane mission, on May 28-31, turned out to be a major disappointment for the Reagan Administration, the committee report said. Under an elaborate plan worked out in advance by Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian businessman, and an Israeli official, Amiram Nir, the McFarlane mission was to deliver three planeloads of weapons starting with their flight to Iran. In return, all the American hostages were to be freed in Lebanon.

    When no hostages were freed, the group’s three days were spent in fruitless argument with low- and middle-level Iranians. The Iranians complained that they had been overcharged for weapons previously sent to them via Israel.’ – http://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/11/us/

    Reaganoptics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  6. He was also excusing MBS murder/assassination of Khashoggi for…reasons.

    Loves him some Erdogan too.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  7. Meanwhile, another POTUS sent a signed copy of the word of God– and a cake– to “the world’s worst human beings ever…”

    Meanwhile doesn’t mean what you think it means. You’re off in a different century…SQUIRREL

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  8. Didn’t Trump give a virtual high-five to Kim for Kim’s criticism of Joe Biden? How disgusting. Have you no decency, man?

    Fat F*ck Kim rules the most hellish country on earth, while his people are reed-thin, short, and starving for food. Forget about trying to assess this pr*ck or guessing his thoughts. The exterior tells you all you need to know.

    norcal (a5428a)

  9. yes and we gave 150 billion to iran, in the last administration, probably 10 billion under the framework,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  10. My predictions for a foreign “October Surprise” is a) Kim renews missile and/or nuclear testing or conducts operations against South Korea; and/or b) Iran conducts a nuclear test.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  11. 10. My prediction is that there will be no foreign October Surprise. Dems will continue apace trying to prove that Trump is unfit for office, and Trump humpers will continue to not care.

    Gryph (f63000)

  12. i can hear those tiny violins playing for the – “we got him this time cult”.

    mg (8cbc69)

  13. My prediction is that there will be no foreign October Surprise. Trump will continue apace trying to prove that Trump is unfit for office, and Trump humpers will continue to not care.

    It appears to not just be the Dems trying to torpedo Trump, so I fixed it.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  14. 13. Well, the choice is between a corrupt former real estate baron or a clinically demented man well into his autumn years. If there was a choice to pull the lever for “neither,” I’d be all over it like stink in a junkyard.

    Gryph (f63000)

  15. i can hear those tiny violins playing for the – “we got him this time cult”.

    mg (8cbc69) — 9/10/2020 @ 5:09 pm

    How about: He got himself!

    Dana (292df6)

  16. My predictions for a foreign “October Surprise”

    I’ve already posted mine:

    Trump visits Pyongyang and gives his trademark “thumbs up” next to one of Little Rocket Man’s ICBMs. At the summit press conference, Kim’s sister tearfully accuses Biden of raping her. Within 24 hours, millions of other North Korean women come forward to claim that they, too, were Biden’s victims. Trump’s supporters are very concerned about these charges against Biden.

    Dave (1bb933)

  17. It will be hard for Dems to come up with a foreign policy October Surprise. Right now they are on the defensive trying to convince the American public that the Arab-Israeli normalization happening right now is a bad thing.

    Hoi Polloi (dc4124)

  18. There will be no October surprise from the Dems. There is nothing Trump could have done that would cause his core supporters not to vote for him. He could’ve shot 3 babies, frenched Putin and Xi, and forcibly sodomized Mitch McConnell AND McConnell’s wife, all in front of the crowd during his acceptance speech on the White House lawn, and his core supporters would STILL vote for him, including Mitch McConnell. Maybe, maybe he’d lose some of the Florida Cuban vote if he dug up Castro and frenched him. Maybe.

    Nic (896fdf)

  19. My predictions for a foreign “October Surprise”…

    Surprises?

    Queen Elizabeth II dies.

    Vladimir Putin dies.

    Joe Biden doesn’t… the miracle came.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. It will be hard for Dems to come up with a foreign policy October Surprise. Right now they are on the defensive trying to convince the American public that the Arab-Israeli normalization happening right now is a bad thing.

    Uhh, I think you may have missed Trump’s Covid bone headedness and last week’s worst ever scandal ever of the week ever, insulting us military veterans.

    I haven’t heard Biden or Harris talk about flights between the Emirates and Israel at all, much less defensive. Do you somehow think that it was a Middle East peace deal, and not an extremely limited deal between Israel and the third Arab state to recognize each other? It’s not nothing, but it’s not a big deal either.

    The Saudi’s specifically have said they’re not interested unless there’s a free Palestinian state and Israel pulls out of the the settlements and West Bank. Kuwait is purely uninterested too, as is Iraq. The House of Saud is the key one though.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  21. 18. Only for as long as they don’t doubt that he would really “date” his daughter, Mr. Nic.

    nk (1d9030)

  22. Sean Davis
    @seanmdav
    ·
    Newly released DOJ records show that multiple top members of Mueller’s investigative team claimed to have “accidentally wiped” at least 15 (!) phones used during the anti-Trump investigation after the DOJ OIG asked for the devies to be handed over.
    https://justice.gov/oip/foia-library/general_topics/communications_strzok_and_page_09_04_20/download
    __ _

    Wiped……like, with a cloth?
    _

    harkin (cd4502)

  23. Here’s a good one.

    Ukraine gas company to add Rick Perry pick to board, could be worth billions

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  24. No they dont care, harkinand if they are arrested jailed and disbarred why should these officials not rinse and repeat.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  25. Nicholas Fondacaro
    @NickFondacaro
    ·
    More shoddy “journalism” from @CNN’s Jake Tapper. In an interview with Democratic nominee Joe Biden, Tapper let him LIE about Trump lifting sanctions on North Korea (none have been lifted), and claim NK is “closer to a nuclear weapon than before” (they’ve had nukes since 2006).
    __ _

    The Partyman
    @PartymanRandy
    ·
    Hold on…Biden doesn’t know that North Korea has nukes?

    This seems like a big deal.
    __ _

    Jenny B
    @JEBrown413
    ·
    If only there were people who looked into what the government did and then told everyone what they found.

    __ _

    I mean, it’s not like Sarah Palin said it.
    _

    harkin (cd4502)

  26. @22 Whembly posted that in another thread. 87 pages of device return procedures. Not “wiped”. Some of them were factory reset, but verizon apparently keeps texting data in whole for a time and then the fact that there was texting data for a year. You can also retrieve data from a device that’s been factory reset and it isn’t even that hard. I suspect that the smart boys at the FBI could probably manage it. In order to guarantee data loss you’ve have to run a special program that overwrites all the bits of memory on the device.

    Nic (896fdf)

  27. Newly released DOJ records show that multiple top members of Mueller’s investigative team claimed to have “accidentally wiped” at least 15 (!) phones used during the anti-Trump investigation after the DOJ OIG asked for the devies to be handed over.

    I don’t think it shows that.

    Dave (1bb933)

  28. Funny i couldnt find abcs original pieces when they were critical of framework which was much more extensive than this.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  29. You can look at the DOJ’s MDM policy, there is no mobile device data that transits the secure system that is not both authenticated and archived for audit/compliance within their Information Security Continuous Monitoring (ISCM) and Insider Threat Prevention and Detection Program (ITPDP).

    This isn’t magic, or new.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  30. No its criminal negligence

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1304153139269042182

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  31. No, it’s not, because there is not a there there. He, and you, are making snit up.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  32. Maybe William Barr should think about taking over the DOJ and charge some people, or do you not know who he is, or the president?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  33. @29 It’s meant as a boogieman for people who haven’t had much need to look at how electronic data is stored or wiped.

    Nic (896fdf)

  34. Trump would probably be disturbed that Biden’s rape of millions of North Korean women was an indisputable sign of virility and stamina that would endear Biden to large segments of Trump’s base.

    Leviticus (ea39b5)

  35. The goal is to destroy main street, thats what you want implicitly.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/08/what-america-loses-with-every-shuttered-main-street-restaurant/#.X1rqhke4BLE.twitter

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  36. What your ant overlord demand

    https://mobile.twitter.com/exjon/status/1304219371611418624

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  37. The goal is to destroy main street, thats what you want implicitly.

    Not me. I want comfortable shoes, warm bathrooms, and chicken avgolemono soup.

    But don’t give up fighting the good fight, narciso. Imaginary perils and imaginary saviors are the best kind. I just signed up again for both Comixology and Marvel Unlimited myself. Go Wade! Go Frank!

    nk (1d9030)

  38. Juggernaut is how i feel about now, although how some of the x force ended up well some might deserve it.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  39. C’mon, Dana, let’s talk. Why does Donald love Kim so much? Kim has better hair.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  40. Despite his complaints about Jennifer Griffin and their polls, there’s a lot of FoxNews love.

    “I watched Liz McDonald,” he said, “She’s fantastic. I watched Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched Fox & Friends in the morning.”

    That’s a lot of “executive time”.

    Paul Montagu (ad6b35)

  41. He has always needed daily self-affirmation but I suspect he needs even more than usual now. Day and night.

    DRJ (aede82)

  42. mr donald our bridge over troubled waters has sacrificed so much for failmerica

    getting into the office every day by the crack of noon

    giving up the weekend flings with hookers who look like his daughter

    i hope he can get in a few rounds of golf this weekend

    Dave (1bb933)

  43. Nic (896fdf) — 9/10/2020 @ 7:20 pm

    t. In order to guarantee data loss you’ve have to run a special program that overwrites all the bits of memory on the device

    What exactly happens when someone enters the wrong 6 digit PIN into an iPhone ten times in a row?

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204306

    If you never backed up your iPhone before you forgot your passcode, you won’t be able to save the data on your iPhone.

    Sammy Finkelman (b66da2)

  44. Trump also said that Kim “tells me everything” and even gave the president a graphic account of how Kim had his own uncle killed.

    Did he say Kim told him that? Most probably, Trump was reporting what U.S. intelligence told him.

    Now the question is, did Trump imply that Kim told him that, or did Wooodward imply that or did DEB the Associated Press imply that?

    Sammy Finkelman (b66da2)

  45. Thanks for the link mg! I followed this link in the article. Doesn’t that sound like Trump and his effect on others?

    felipe (023cc9)

  46. nk (1d9030) — 9/10/2020 @ 8:59 pm

    If I may make a suggestion: Check out “Damage control,” if you are not already familiar with that Marvel title. Fun, goofy, Marvel-making-fun-of-itself, reading.

    felipe (023cc9)

  47. I will, felipe.

    nk (1d9030)

  48. Sometimes it seems like Trump is just really down and desperate for validation. I don’t think he’s able to feel good abut himself unless praise comes from the outside. This post kind of makes me feel bad for him.

    Time123 (c9382b)

  49. Did RCocean get banned? I haven’t seen him in a while and this is the sort of story that would typically make him go off.

    Time123 (c9382b)

  50. Attacking fellow Americans seems like the opposite of unity, mg.

    DRJ (aede82)

  51. I have seen him at Althouse, Time123.

    DRJ (aede82)

  52. Intentional wiping of the phones by repeatedly entering the wrong pass code till they were wiped.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  53. One side of the country is in flames and smoke but apparently it’s been three weeks or so since Trump thought this was worthy of mention.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/california-playbook/2020/09/11/trumps-silence-on-western-wildfires-did-covid-19-reach-la-first-hoover-fellow-potus-adviser-scott-atlas-under-fire-haim-sabans-500k-fundraiser-for-biden-sf-to-reopen-hair-nail-salons-gym-490300

    Among the other political norms of our country that’s been kind of disconcerting to see disappear is the one where the president at least pretends he represents and cares for the entire country, not just his political base.

    Victor (661f31)

  54. @53: The people that claim Trump supporters will defend Trump no matter what he does are the same people that defend the Democrat stacked Mueller team, corrupt Obama DOJ, Schiff and Nadler no matter what they do.

    beer ‘n pretzels (cc02f0)

  55. @55 — Rubbish. I’m in the first group, because I’ve seen how Trump defenders try to explain away anything and everything, always taking the position that criticizing Trump is worse than anything Trump has done, and that Trump critics are all morally worse than Trump.

    I do not defend other people “not matter what they do,” because I don’t apply a double standard: one for Trump, the other for everyone who isn’t a devotee of Trump.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  56. @55 — I’ve also seen how Trumpsters use the label “anti-Trump” to be mean “bad person, un-American, probably hates God and puppies.”

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  57. That’s nice, Radegunda. Though, in two comments you managed to avoid saying anything critical about the Mueller team wiping their phones.

    beer ‘n pretzels (53e75e)

  58. Intentional wiping of the phones by repeatedly entering the wrong pass code till they were wiped.

    What was there to wipe? Huh? What? What? Come on, man! Tell us! What was there to wipe?

    Moreover, I have a maximum storage of fifteen voicemails on my Verizon phone. I “wipe” them constantly if I want to get new ones. That’s one. Two is that I have a maximum on my text messages, too. I just “wiped” them this morning. If you look at my phone now, you will see my Contacts (phonebook), my call history (I think that automatically deletes the oldest calls), and one text message.

    So what does the Wiping Of The Squirrels have to do with the price of green cards sold by the Kushners in China?

    nk (1d9030)

  59. @58 — Where did I “defend” Mueller, Schiff, Nadler et al. “no matter what they do”?
    I don’t recall ever making a statement in defense of them at all.
    Your comment was fallacious.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  60. @58 — How many times have you criticized Trump?

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  61. “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh!t.” — Donald J. Trump

    It is the purpose of every Trump supporter to lie, accuse, and confuse with anything that comes into their heads. Only that, and nothing more.

    nk (1d9030)

  62. Where did I say you defended them, Radegunda? Your comment is fallacious.

    You are carefully refraining from criticizing them, which is not the same.

    Instead of tap dancing, why not offer your opinion on it?

    beer ‘n pretzels (27da31)

  63. That’s nice, Radegunda. Though, in two comments you managed to avoid saying anything critical about the Mueller team wiping their phones.

    beer ‘n pretzels (53e75e) — 9/11/2020 @ 9:05 am

    I’ve seen 2 links, several strong claims, and zero analysis on this. The links point to an exchange of emails that’s 87 pages long. I haven’t had the time or interest to read the whole thing, understand what the proper process was, and form an opinion.

    If you’ve done that work (and it’s work) I’d be happy to read your summary and analysis. whet I want to know is what happened, and what should have happened.

    I also want to know if this should / would have been covered in the IG report on cross fire hurricane. Because I read much of that and didn’t see this listed anywhere as an impediment to that investigation.

    Time123 (52fb0e)

  64. @58 — The post is about Trump’s love of Kim Jong Un — which is one more sign of his warped character. So why would I be obliged to criticize whatever Mueller or Schiff may or may not have done with their phones on this thread?
    Evidently the principle is that attacking Trump-critics is always morally superior to saying a critical word about Trump.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  65. Where did I say you defended them, Radegunda? Your comment is fallacious.

    I dissected your first comment and easily showed that it’s false. I have in fact said that Trump defenders will defend anything he does. I have not and would not defend other people “no matter what they do.”

    Then you implied that the absence of a criticism of Mueller et al. from me on a post about Trump’s love of Kim Jong Un is tantamount to defending them (which is ridiculous). And now you’re twisting the argument even more bizarrely.

    And your original statement about what other people do is still false.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  66. @63 – What was my false statement?

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  67. O,M.G.

    Biden nearly fell over placing a wreath in Shanksville, PA.

    Another Bob-Dole-falls-off-the-stage-campaign-moment is coming.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. @43 It does a factory reset. The data is still there, it’s just hidden from view. Generally speaking most of it should be able to be retrieved. Apple is… territorial… though, and doesn’t like people to have control of their own devices, so they purposely build in road blocks to make it seem more difficult.

    In order to fully delete data you either have to use a special program that overwrites everything or you have to degauss it with a strong magnetic field.

    Nic (896fdf)

  69. carter page and general flynn were treated like the enemy, by a corrupt clique, the latter was a chief intel officer at the start of this long war, and continued through to the next theatre of operations,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  70. carter page and general flynn were treated like the enemy, by a corrupt clique, the latter was a chief intel officer at the start of this long war, and continued through to the next theatre of operations,

    A) Breaking the law is illegal
    B) At the start of this war Flynn was a G2, later a J2.
    C) Flynn was reprimanded for sharing classified U.S. intelligence information on the Haqqani network with the Pakistanis.
    D) Flynn was an Obama guy until his weird deep connection to the Russians and poor management sent up red flags in his command structure and he was canned. “Flynn facts” was a thing, lying both up and down the chain of command.

    Flynn was pretty good as a G2 with a good leader above him, but he was a bad manager himself, not a leader of men. That’s not an indictment in itself, he probably needed a more rounded background between the G2 role and DIA job, more command experience at least, if not some staff management role in the pentagon in the interim.

    He also flapped his gums too much, not that this is news, that’s what got him prosecuted in the end.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  71. DCSCA, when in this video did Biden nearly fall?

    DRJ (aede82)

  72. You are NeverBiden!

    DRJ (aede82)

  73. he was the top intelligence officer who mapped out the counterinsurgency strategy, he subsequently had doubts about the whole afghan enterprise, he saw the data of al queda regrouping in west and north africa, all the way to the salafi principality, when obama was saying al queda was dead,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  74. marjorie greene has no democratic opponent, he bowed out for reasons,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  75. he was the top intelligence officer who mapped out the counterinsurgency strategy, he subsequently had doubts about the whole afghan enterprise, he saw the data of al queda regrouping in west and north africa, all the way to the salafi principality, when obama was saying al queda was dead,

    No, he didn’t map out any counterinsurgency strategy, that’s just completely made up out of whole cloth. He was never in command, that was never his job, that was never something he did, it’s just a story you’re pulling out of your tail parts.

    He was right on AQAP, he was wrong on lots of other things, and he was flapping his gums to the Paks and the Russians. Maybe you’ve heard, the Russians are not our friends, the Paks, especially the ISI, is not our friend.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)


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