New Trump Campaign Ad Goes After Biden’s Mental Fitness
[guest post by Dana]
Tim Murtaugh, director of communications for the President’s re-election campaign, announced last weekend that the campaign would “be everywhere” in a big way during the Democratic convention:
The Trump campaign will be everywhere – virtually – during the Dem convention next week.
Centerpiece of massive digital buy is the takeover of YouTube masthead for 4 days.
Online viewers will know the radical leftist takeover of Joe Biden is complete.https://t.co/dlhl1E4XtB
— Tim Murtaugh – Download the Trump 2020 app today! (@TimMurtaugh) August 15, 2020
With that, the Trump campaign released a new political ad airing at the same time as the Democratic National Convention. The new ad, “What Happened to Joe Biden,” targets Joe Biden’s mental fitness. Apparently the Trump campaign was concerned about going after the 77-year old Biden this way because it might offend the senior citizen voting bloc. But in spite of concerns, the ad was released:
It’s a smart ad. The contrasting then and now clips are compelling and speak for themselves. The ad does a good job showing viewers how much Biden has aged, and how much less verbally fluent he appears than just a few years ago. However, I feel like Biden’s team could just as easily produce a similar counter ad with some clips of Trump’s many incoherent word salad performances over the years.
A Trump campaign official defended the ad:
We think it’s very important that voters fully assess Joe Biden’s qualifications and fitness to be president. Our data show that people are concerned about his ability to do the job.
Here is the Biden camp’s response to the ad:
Donald Trump is spectacularly failing every conceivable strategic test by ramping up mentions of this subject at all. Joe Biden sounded the alarm about the outbreak early, whereas Donald Trump is still promising us the virus will magically ‘disappear.’ Joe Biden has highlighted the advice of medical experts throughout the pandemic, but Donald Trump publicly encouraged COVID-19 victims to inject themselves with disinfectant. Joe Biden has highlighted the advice of medical experts throughout the pandemic, but Donald Trump publicly encouraged COVID-19 patients to inject themselves with disinfectant. Trump has even said that we should nuke hurricanes out over the water. And if that’s not enough for you, ‘Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.‘”
And bingo, a new Biden counter ad! A 30-second reel of nothing but Trump repeating his blithering 5-word brag: Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
–Dana
These guys…
Dana (292df6) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:22 amYouTube keeps feeding me Biden ads. They all have captions that reflect the words on the cue cards Joe is supposed to be reading. Half the ads have Biden saying something that doesn’t match the captions underneath, either because he is slurring a word or simply saying the wrong word.
Xmas (eafb47) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:27 amIt’s a good add and really raises the stakes of the debates, especially the first one. If Biden comes across as confused or inarticulate that will probably be all the proof a lot of people need that he really has lost it. Ads like this set up a sharp and focused performance to be very powerful. The press will be only too happy to talk about a difference between the accusations and the performance. Ads like this will push even the Trump friendly Fox News to discuss how Biden did relative to this baseline.
Time123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:36 am@3 I wonder if it does set kind of a low bar for Biden to cross, though. One of the criticism of the dem campaign against GWB was that they did a lot of emphasizing how dim and inarticulate Bush was and when he was only slightly inarticulate and a normal amount of dim people decided he wasn’t that bad.
Nic (896fdf) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:40 am@4 yup.
Time123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:42 am@3: By that metric, if Trump doesn’t say anything racist and doesn’t inject the moderator with fish tank cleaner or bleach, he wins.
beer ‘n pretzels (2bbe92) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:43 amThis is probably the campaign that Trump needs to run. I think* he wins a relatively low-turnout election, like the one four years ago, and I think he loses if there is a turn-out like there was in 2008. So it’s probably best for him to attack, attack, attack Biden since his base seems to appreciate it and he maybe convinces casual voters who might be interested in returning to the Obama days to tune out and ignore the election.
* As I have said for the past year, I was wrong about everything I said and wrote in the 2016 election and I am destined to be wrong about everything I say and write in the 2020 election.
JVW (ee64e4) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:56 amBiden has gaffes. Trump lies.
John B Boddie (042948) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:00 pmIt’s not a trivial difference.
A debate is high stakes for both of them. Don’s weird enunciation problems and loose dentures regularly make him look like a demented bingo regular. And he’s thin skinned enough to be easy to set off.
I’m looking forward to them.
john (cd2753) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:04 pmBiden lied about the accident that killed his wife, is there anything more elemental.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:04 pmIf Trump comes across as a normal it’s likely to help him.
-Nothing racist
-No rants based on personal grievance
-No weird bragging or hyperbole
-No conspiracy theories
-Concisely presents accurate information in a way that demonstrates some mastery of the relevant subject matter
that might make people who were planning to vote against him reconsider.
Time123 (b87ded) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:05 pm@8
Biden is just as much as a serial liar as Trump.
Seriously, do people not pay attention anymore? I get that the media spinning furiously to help Democrats but, all you really need to do is to watch any time Biden speaks.
As for the Ad, for what’s it worth I know plenty of geriatric friends and family members who are concerned about Biden’s decline. I think it’s because they’re in that position that could happen to them, and watching their generation.
whembly (c30c83) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:08 pmmr. president donald trump, whose mama took his kodachrome away when she saw him with julio down at schoolyard, makes a habit of attributing his own defects on others
that’s because he only sees himself
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:11 pmLOL.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:12 pmIf Trump comes across as a normal it’s not likely to help him.
-Nothing racist
-No rants based on personal grievance
-No weird bragging or hyperbole
-No conspiracy theories
-Concisely presents accurate information in a way that demonstrates some mastery of the relevant subject matter
that might make his most fervent supporters who were planning to vote for him reconsider.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:13 pmNever mind
https://mobile.twitter.com/chefjclark/status/1296133038691278853
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:13 pmOT: Kevin Clinesmith plead guilty to false statement charge:
whembly (c30c83) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:20 pmhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/19/ex-fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesmith-court-1st-durham-case-russia/3393941001/
Whembly, I’m glad he’s admitted guilt and I think he should be punished.
One thing that’s interesting, the information he added to the email, that Page was not a source, was accurate per the CIA. Again, he falsified evidence in his submission, but he didn’t provide incorrect information. What he should have done, is asked the CIA to re-send the email with the ‘not a source’ information included. Again, I’m glad he’s pleading guilty since I don’t think this should be brushed off as ‘no harm no foul’
Time123 (b87ded) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:48 pmNew DNC Official Campaign Song…
https://youtu.be/V_ONyukSLqA
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:55 pm@18
Buddy… where are you getting that “Page was not a source, was accurate per the CIA.”?????
The CIA literally said Page was a source, and STILL says to this day that he was a source.
whembly (c30c83) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:57 pmI read the article you linked hurriedly and drew the wrong conclusion from the part in bold. Unless there is some meangful difference between source and operational contact he’s a source. Now I’m more glad he’s being held accountable.
Time123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:10 pmYup… It doesn’t matter what he “thought” about the accuracy of change he made. Making the change is the crime.
whembly (c30c83) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:13 pmTime123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:10 pm
My respect for you grows.
felipe (023cc9) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:14 pmAgree completely, plus doesn’t matter if his change was correct or not. It’s still something he’s misrepresenting. I should have slowed down and double checked when I found something that interesting.
Time123 (b87ded) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:15 pmThanks Filipe
Time123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:16 pmJeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
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NEW: @BarackObama will deliver his convention speech tonight from the Museum of the American Revolution in Philadelphia, a Democratic official tells me, a location intended to underscore “our very democracy is at stake” in this election.
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Karol Markowicz
harkin (94c32c) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:19 pm@karol
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Wasn’t that the one fought by slave owners whose statues we must now remove?
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It will. Herd immunity.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity.html
It’s disappeared from New York already (they are about to restore the fare on buses, Aug 31) and they’re wondering why there isn;t some new outbreak like in Australia or New Zealand.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200731/Research-suggests-New-York-City-may-have-reached-coronavirus-herd-immunity-threshold.aspx
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/briefing/herd-immunity-postal-service-democratic-national-convention-your-monday-briefing.html
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:32 pmTrump wasn’t always so linguistically challenged. What could explain the change?
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STAT reviewed decades of Trump’s on-air interviews and compared them to Q&A sessions since his inauguration. The differences are striking and unmistakable.
Research has shown that changes in speaking style can result from cognitive decline. STAT therefore asked experts in neurolinguistics and cognitive assessment, as well as psychologists and psychiatrists, to compare Trump’s speech from decades ago to that in 2017; they all agreed there had been a deterioration, and some said it could reflect changes in the health of Trump’s brain.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:48 pm…….
This article is from 2017, but it is clear things haven’t improved ……
8.Biden has gaffes. Trump lies.
It’s not a trivial difference.
Actually, Plagiarist JoeyBee lies and has gaffes. Trump just lies.
One fella has an engine running on leaded they increasingly misfire; the other has a limo driver to blame.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:53 pm^they… = that increasingly misfires
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:54 pm14.Biden is just as much as a serial liar as Trump.
Worse. He’s been at it nearly 50 years.
Hey Joe, ‘What does Delaware? Idaho, Alaska’ is a play on words, you know.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:57 pmYOU PLAGIARIZED THAT YOU DIRTY PLAGIARIZING PLAGIARIST WHO PLAGIARIZES
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 2:07 pmThe headline in the prin edition says:
New York’s Control of Virus Surprises Experts
Leaders Watch Warily and Worry About a Second Wave
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/nyregion/coronavirus-second-wave-nyc.html
The simple explanation for this thing is herd immunity.
There might even be a question if an epidemic of this can sustain itself in a locality for more than three months. Many many people get mild infections.
So – it may almost vanish from the United States in October, helped along by better testing and contact tracing and better treatments, including neutralizing monoclonal antibodies. And Democratic campaign commercials about the virus may look foolish. Coming in October, maybe. They’ll have to get people to vite early before they discover that the virus has just…vanished, and probably for good.
It still wouldn’t be enough to save Trump’s campaign. (the virus vanishing)
That would require making a very serious play for the urban black vote, citing, besides issues that have resonance everywhere, the need for police, even if some are bad;school choice; and maybe some new issues, like foster care, Trump went after apart of the Democratic base in 2016, he’ll have to do it again, but he can;t go for the same part of the base.
And maybe he’d have get rid of Stephen Miller and all of his advice.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/19/2020 @ 2:17 pmDCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:53 pm
The reason you can say Trump doesn’t have gaffes is that he not even rrying to get things right. e justtries to get things credible. (i.e. somebody else said that)
Then, on top of his vague memory, he tweaks it somewhat (lies)
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/19/2020 @ 2:20 pm32. Pointing out a play on words is not plagiarism, Davey. Claiming original authorship is– something Plagiarist JoeyBee is oh-so-guilty-of.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:14 pmBen Carson says it’s premature to promote latest unproven coronavirus treatment
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“It’s not time for it yet,” Carson said in an interview with ABC News, saying the unproven extract, called oleandrin, should go through human trials before gaining approval from the Food and Drug Administration. “You need to go to the next step, you need to go through the process.”
“What hopefully will happen is that clinical trials will occur,” Carson said. “This should go the same route as other things do. We shouldn’t, you know, skip the process.”
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Carson’s comments come after Lindell has publicly promoted oleandrin as a “miracle to the country” to treat COVID-19, while providing zero evidence to back up his claim.
“You know, what happened with Mike Lindell, who is a fantastic salesperson, but not a scientist, perhaps distorts the process,” Carson said of his friend, who Carson said he met at a prayer breakfast many years ago. Lindell did not immediately respond to ABC News’ request for comment.
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President Trump has stopped short of promoting the drug, but has said it’s something the administration is exploring. However, on Tuesday, when asked about Lindell’s comments, said he doesn’t know anything about what he’s promoting.
“I know nothing about it other than I know he’s got something that he’s working with some science people,” Trump said.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:17 pm…..
I was going to say you were wrong but on second thought, this is a good point. It’s a shame you mix it in with the plagiarism bit you keep doing.
Biden’s been a professional politician for 50 years and is bad at talking.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:21 pmBiden’s been a professional politician for 50 years and is bad at talking.
multiple brain surgeries can do that.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:23 pmWhen the heck is the at time the brain-damaged twit has been west of Wilmington– or Scranton?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:33 pm^ at = last
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:34 pmYou tried to pass off somebody else’s bon mot as your own.
I’ve heard that’s a huge character tell.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:36 pm@7. Yep. And Plagiarist JoeyBee is the gift that keeps on giving.
Joseph R. Biden’s wife Jill Biden on Tuesday said questioning her husband’s cognitive abilities was “ridiculous” and not a fair campaign attack.
ROFLMAO.
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How to short-circuit Lincoln Project whiners and wistful anti-Trump Righties determined to topple The Donald:
Ronald Reagan warned us against Biden
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion-ronald-reagan-warned-us-against-joe-biden
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:47 pm@41. ROFLMAOPIP nonsense, Davey; you sound like Biden.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:48 pmBiden is you.
Welcome to 1980.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:50 pmhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ronald-reagan-warned-us-against-joe-biden
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:52 pmDavey- plagiarizing my intellectual property is quite Bidenesque of you.
Are you that desperate?
Little Ronnie Sunshine warned you about Plagiarist JoeyBee:
45.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ronald-reagan-warned-us-against-joe-biden
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:55 pmGood luck with that. I don’t trust their ‘we’re the real republicans and want to help you republicans out’ bit at all, but they have some terrific GOTV type of ads. They are perfect in two roles, one being just to absorb all the angry responses from Trump’s camp that ruined all Trump’s previous opponents. Biden doesn’t care if Trump attacks Reagan republicans lol.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:57 pmDeezy-eskanomics.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:58 pmLet’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:01 pm@47. Good luck trying to knock The Reagan Diaries.
@48. Desperate Davey, Biden was caught several times, too. Catch Trump– if you can. Those NY Yankee pinstripes are very distracting, aren’t they.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:02 pm49.Let’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.
Joe The Plumber is for Trump?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:03 pmDoesn’t matter. Trump’s team can pour billions of rubles into attacking the Lincoln Project as a bunch of two-faced backstabbing fake republicans who didn’t hear the cry of Reagan from beyond his hallowed grave. Doesn’t matter.
Trump won in the past by viciously sliming all his previous opponents. This time, Biden’s high roading and barely even running a campaign, so it’s just Trump failing to connect a lot of hits on this old man, and Trump making a lot of dents in an entity that isn’t on the ballot.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:05 pmRepublican president elected 40 years ago doesn’t like Democrat Senator.
Doesn’t matter. It’s like Hirono telling us she is not going to vote for Trump. Well yeah.
Republican president elected before I was born differs with the Lincoln Project of today, showing they aren’t really all that Republicany. Well yeah.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:08 pm52.@47. Good luck trying to knock The Reagan Diaries.Doesn’t matter.
ROFLMAOPIP The god-like-gospel; the words according to Saint Ronald The Omnipotent “Doesn’t metter?!?!?!?!”
Heresy!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:08 pm53.Republican president elected 40 years ago doesn’t like Democrat Senator.
A ‘senator’ running for president who was forced to quit because he was caught and outted as a serial plagiarist.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:10 pmPretty tone-deaf coming from Trump, whose sanity, let alone his mental acuity, is widely questioned. But let’s be fair here: Demand that both candidates submit to a panel of mental tests, from IQ to senility, and that the results are then made public.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:10 pmI’m more interested in the candidates’ Alzheimer’s status than I am in their tax returns.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:12 pmPoint: 173,000 coronavirus in the United States to date, 1,205 in the last 24 hours.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:16 pmCounterpoint: Biden plagiarized something in college 50 years ago, and, oh yeah, he don’t talk so good neither.
Just just flush that orange stuff in the toilet. We’ll worry about what else gets dumped in when it happens.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:17 pmTrump would just cheat, like he does in business, marriage, the draft, elections, the SAT, golf, etc.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:18 pmcoronavirus DEATHS
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:18 pm@58. Counterpoint: Biden plagiarized several somethings running for president 32 years ago, which forced him to quit his campaign and, oh yeah, he don’t talk so good neither even when he steals the words of others.
FIFY.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:20 pmOne of the things that debates do is allow the viewers to see the candidates would the press (or PR firms) forming the image. This can work both ways (e.g. Nixon, 1960). The press is universally cheerleading for the Democrats (go look at the WaPo today), and trashing Trump at every opportunity. Both candidates have their good and bad moments and if the press, blogs, etc, only show the good from one and the bad from the other, people can be misled.
Personally, I hope the debates make it clear that NEITHER of these men is worth a warm pitcher of spit, and the people blame the two broken parties for this mess.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:21 pmO.M.G.
CNN talking heads apologizing for Obama’s speech even before the tap of it rolls.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:22 pmTrump would just cheat, like he does in business, marriage, the draft, elections, the SAT, golf, etc.
What, he sends one of his minions in to take the IQ test, hoping no one will notice? Assuming he has a smart minion?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:23 pm^tap=tape
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:23 pmAnd in what way did Trump cheat in the 2016 election? He had a few Ruission trolls interefere on the Interwebs and this somehow drowned out the NY Times, WaPo, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc, who were all doing him dirt and whom Hillary was openly colluding with?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:25 pmAnd your guy Trump is going to get Biden elected Plagiarist in Chief.
Glorious.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:26 pmLet’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.
Wave bye-bye to Biden and Cardi B… https://youtu.be/10cRNiXlWRQ
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:27 pmIt’s really terrible when I have to choose between the hated Trump, who should drop dead, and patent BS from anti-Trump propagandists.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:27 pmSee Cohen, Michael.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:28 pmOr he gets the key and writes the answers on the Resolute desk with a Sharpie…
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:31 pm…and the people blame the two broken parties for this mess.
Yep. Back in the day, the party knew FDR wasn’t going to live long and the powers that be tagged a reluctant Truman. Reagan’s mind was suspect but GHWB at least had both Yale crewing oars in the water. No such luck today.
You want an almost certain President Kamala Harris?
Vote for the Plagiarist JoeyBee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:31 pmYou could probably get odds in Vegas that Biden won’t be speaking at the 2024 DNC.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:33 pmDat song should be considered a public service, as it’s the closest some will ever get to it.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:35 pmIt doesn’t matter because we already calculated in that Joe Biden isn’t a republican, and therefore doesn’t enjoy the support of Ronald Reagan. It would be amazing if, say Dubya came out and endorsed Biden (And indeed that’s the point of this Reagan thing, a lot of living Republicans are awkwardly tepid about Trump, and several are actually breaking with their party). You gotta endorse Trump with the dead president’s moldy arm waving around, instead of getting anyone the GOP still respects to do it.
Think about it.
This is a particularly amusing comment. But I get it. Instead of sobering up at what the fringes have done, the democrats are maximizing the moment. It’s not that they don’t understand that a centrist democratic party from the 1990s would restore our country. It’s that they oppose that.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:35 pmWhat, he sends one of his minions in to take the IQ test, hoping no one will notice? Assuming he has a smart minion?
He gets one of his minions, who wants to be Secretary of HHS or alternatively a Congressman from Texas, to give him the test. Person, woman, man, camera, TV.
But that’s just …. The POS has been tested for three and a half years now, and all he’s been doing is stinking up the place. Flush it!
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:35 pm68. And your guy Trump is going to get Biden a government funeral and Harris as your president. Glorious?!
FIFY
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:37 pmIt doesn’t matter
Except it does. Don’t spend all your Reagan Dimes in one place. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:38 pmmr. president donald trump, who is blue as he can be become his steady boy said ship ahoy and left the navy, knows whom to bribe and how
that is a new york truth
ineluctable
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:40 pmLOL ok man. Thanks for the game changing announcement that Ronald Reagan, who is dead now, endorsed his choice for VP as candidate for president against a democrat who opposed Reagan’s political party.
Truly a non-boring development that takes into account the elephant in the room. Reagan thought Putin’s KGB was quote “evil” and worth tremendous sacrifice to defeat, and Biden is running against Putin’s administration.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:43 pmWhat’s weird is that all of Trump’s supporters smell like Reagan smells right now.
Dustin (4237e0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:43 pmShort-term pain for long-term gain.
Welcome to 1980.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:43 pmI tell you, we don’t need that ’round here
Don’t want to smell that stench, let’s make it disappear
It’s not fit to be President, throw it out on its ear
So flush it, just flush it
You better run, better air out that can
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:00 pmLike a sewer that’s backed up, it’s not fit for beast or man
It won’t be too tough, just turn on that window fan
So flush it, flush it, flush it
Flush it, flush it, flush it
Flush it!
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:02 pm“Hey, it’s me Kamala…”
Hey, Kamala, it’s me, DCSCA: I’m voting for The White Team; they landed men on the moon.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:04 pmYou better run, better air out that can
Like a sewer that’s backed up, it’s not fit for beast or man
It won’t be too tough, just turn on that window fan
So flush it, flush it, flush it
Flush it, flush it, flush it
There’s a man who just ate more than his fill of Chicago deep dish.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:10 pm@83. Short-term pain for long-term gain.
Trump-Pence 2020: welcome to 1968.
FIFY.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:12 pmDCSCA has gone full Hoagie.
urbanleftbehind (7fb72d) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:14 pmWhen Delaware’s Biden talks climate change one word comes to mind: DuPont.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:24 pm@89. They parties are serving up turkeys, white meat is more popular than dark meat– but everybody loves the gravy.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:27 pmYou’re skirting the edge of the cliff now, DCSCA.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:29 pmMemo to Billie Eilish- your ‘My Future’ is into minute 15.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:30 pmHe’s a few burns short of a full orbit…
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:32 pm@92. Hardly; at least they’re not serving up ham– maybe just ham salad.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:32 pm@84. There’s no need to fear, we now have a…. Space Forceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:34 pm@93 Fewer drugs and more enunciation probably would’ve helped.
Nic (896fdf) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:38 pmdefund teh police
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:39 pmand hand over your damn guns
and we’ll make it stop
Somebody really ought to remind the DNC that 75% of the American electorate is… white. Their convention is the best commercial for the Trump/Pence ticket they never produced.
… and The Silent Majority smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:41 pm@97. =chortle= No kidding.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:42 pmDeezy-eska’s saying the quiet parts out loud now.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:54 pm@101. Facts are stubborn things; never forget: The White Team landed men on the moon.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 6:57 pmThe Nazis already had their bases there to guide von Braun’s Earth teams down and to refuel them for the journey back, DCSCA.
nk (1d9030) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:02 pm@102 Sigh. There’s a movie you should see about who did the programing that landed us on the moon.
Nic (896fdf) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:02 pm“It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.
When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colors, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.”
— – Sheriff D. Clarke
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:05 pm@104. =sigh back at you= I’ll cut you some slack on this as you likely don’t know. There’s a history you should read that will tell you all about ‘The White Team’ – and who led it for Eleven: start w/Gene Kranz.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:07 pm@103. ‘Our Germans were better than their Germans.’ – credit to Tom Wolfe, no plagiarist he.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:10 pm@106 They could not have done it without their team, and the team was diverse.
Nic (896fdf) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:12 pm…some time back in the Permian Era.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:14 pmWell alrighty then, at least Kranz was more of a pointy-helmet Zimmerman telegram kind of German (he did make some proto-Haiku spawn, if Wikipedia is to be believed).
urbanleftbehind (7fb72d) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:17 pm@104. Postscript: consider yourself schooled, Nic:
The White Team for Apollo 11
https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/msfn_missions/Apollo_11_mission/a11_White_Team.html
‘The White Team for Apollo 11. Gene Kranz’s White team of Flight Controllers in the MOCR was on shift at critical moments during the Apollo 11 mission, most notably, the descent and landing. These two team photos were taken at the conclusion of the mission. Gene Kranz’s White Team, at the conclusion of the Apollo 11 mission.’
=mike-drop=
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:18 pm…some time back in the Permian Era.
Welcome to 1969.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:19 pm@108. See #106. ‘The White Team.’ =mike-drop=
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 7:30 pmWhile utterly predictable, I think this is a high-risk strategy for the campaign, because any attack on Biden’s mental acuity can be turned around and made about Trump’s in spades. Hundreds and hundreds of newspaper articles, magazines, books, television interviews, going back decades, are fair game now. Plus, four years of incompetence, ineptitude, corruption, and blatant cronyism, not to mention inane conspiracy theories galore.
If the Biden campaign were smart, they would take the high road, ignore these accusations, and let the DNC and PACs do the dirty work for them. There definitely is more than enough dirt to throw around.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 8/20/2020 @ 5:57 am39. 40. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:33 pm
Probably June 5. And he not on;yw went west of Pennsylvania, but west of the Mississippi River.
He was in Houston for a private meeting with the family of George Floyd, one day ahead of the official ceremonies (which he attended virtually)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/politics/joe-biden-george-floyd-funeral.html
By the way, the New York Times reports today, on page 20, that there’s some division between Joe Biden and “progressives” on the matter of police:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/democrats-biden-defund-police.html
I don’t know why they are afraid of them. Abolishing or significantly downsizing the police doesn’t have much support even in (or maybe especially in) segregated communities, I mean at the grass roots level. Among non-criminals, of course. But the criminals mostly don’t vote.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:07 am105. “It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public.
The police are the professionals. They get training. The public doesn’t.
This gets things backwards.
Police have to take account of people’s emotions, and stupidities. It’s like defensive driving. You don;t say the crash was not preventable because the other driver made a mistake.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:13 amGabby Giffords gave averry very short speech last night. She was preceded by a very carefully selected mother = her son was shot, and lived but was extremely disabled/
The point was that guns were bad.
The subtext was to endorse a snake oil solution. (and certainly not stop question and frisk)
Whether the solution works or not does’s not matter. Whether money would accomplish its stated objectives doesn’t matter.
Because….markets are efficient when the government is dong something?
Obama gave a good speech. His points wee at least debateable.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:22 am116… people need training, Sammy. If they, as children, aren’t taught to follow lawful orders issued by the people given the power and responsibility to do so, that is a massive dereliction of duty perpetrated by parents. One that can have fatal consequences.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:37 amLike having 3 officers smother you until you beg for your mother and die.
Time123 (7cca75) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:44 amKingsnakes primarily eat rattlesnakes. But they are harmless to humans. Sheriff Clarke should go for a long walk off a long pier.
nk (1d9030) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:46 amSorry. Sheriff Clarke should go for a long walk off a *short* pier.
nk (1d9030) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:47 amEnough fentanyl in his blood (among other controlled substances) in his blood to kill an elephant and the fear of a 6th stretch in the state pen doesn’t help, but yes, he shouldn’t have died for his lifestyle.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:50 amI know you don’t care about truth or accuracy but just to keep this fact based.
They Jury will ultimately get a chance to review all of the evidence and make a decision.
Time123 (7cca75) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:56 amMany of the victims of excessive police force are criminals (often petty and/or habitual criminals, like George Floyd).
Expecting train future criminals to follow behave responsibly when surrendering to police seems more than a little mad.
If it were that easy, we could presumably also train them not to forge checks, shoplift, rob people, sell drugs, etc., obviating the need for the police to confront them in the first place…
Dave (1bb933) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:56 am
Dave (1bb933) — 8/20/2020 @ 9:57 amfollowThis is sicker:
They tased him more than 50 times because they told him to put his hands behind his back so they could cuff him and he would not. They never once tried to put him in a wrist-lock and bring his hands behind his back themselves. It was a sick sadistic domination game.
nk (1d9030) — 8/20/2020 @ 10:16 am@126, That’s horrifying.
Time123 (7cca75) — 8/20/2020 @ 10:17 amFederal officials still working hard to prevent people from being cured of Covid – these are the “scientists” that Joe Biden says Trump should be listening to and to whom he’s listening to too much
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/blood-plasma-covid-19.html
Remember, all treatments should be considered innocent of doing any good until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is better than 20 medicines go unused than that one ineffective one be used. And the only way to prove something is useful is to give half the people a placebo.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:09 pmOr rabdoml;y give it or not.
If something is available for certain no sensible person will enroll in a clinical trial, so they’ve got to slow down its use.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:12 pm