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8/19/2020

New Trump Campaign Ad Goes After Biden’s Mental Fitness

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:22 am



[guest post by Dana]

Tim Murtaugh, director of communications for the President’s re-election campaign, announced last weekend that the campaign would “be everywhere” in a big way during the Democratic convention:

With that, the Trump campaign released a new political ad airing at the same time as the Democratic National Convention. The new ad, “What Happened to Joe Biden,” targets Joe Biden’s mental fitness. Apparently the Trump campaign was concerned about going after the 77-year old Biden this way because it might offend the senior citizen voting bloc. But in spite of concerns, the ad was released:

It’s a smart ad. The contrasting then and now clips are compelling and speak for themselves. The ad does a good job showing viewers how much Biden has aged, and how much less verbally fluent he appears than just a few years ago. However, I feel like Biden’s team could just as easily produce a similar counter ad with some clips of Trump’s many incoherent word salad performances over the years.

A Trump campaign official defended the ad:

We think it’s very important that voters fully assess Joe Biden’s qualifications and fitness to be president. Our data show that people are concerned about his ability to do the job.

Here is the Biden camp’s response to the ad:

Donald Trump is spectacularly failing every conceivable strategic test by ramping up mentions of this subject at all. Joe Biden sounded the alarm about the outbreak early, whereas Donald Trump is still promising us the virus will magically ‘disappear.’ Joe Biden has highlighted the advice of medical experts throughout the pandemic, but Donald Trump publicly encouraged COVID-19 victims to inject themselves with disinfectant. Joe Biden has highlighted the advice of medical experts throughout the pandemic, but Donald Trump publicly encouraged COVID-19 patients to inject themselves with disinfectant. Trump has even said that we should nuke hurricanes out over the water. And if that’s not enough for you, ‘Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.‘”

And bingo, a new Biden counter ad! A 30-second reel of nothing but Trump repeating his blithering 5-word brag: Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

–Dana

129 Responses to “New Trump Campaign Ad Goes After Biden’s Mental Fitness”

  1. These guys…

    Dana (292df6)

  2. YouTube keeps feeding me Biden ads. They all have captions that reflect the words on the cue cards Joe is supposed to be reading. Half the ads have Biden saying something that doesn’t match the captions underneath, either because he is slurring a word or simply saying the wrong word.

    Xmas (eafb47)

  3. It’s a good add and really raises the stakes of the debates, especially the first one. If Biden comes across as confused or inarticulate that will probably be all the proof a lot of people need that he really has lost it. Ads like this set up a sharp and focused performance to be very powerful. The press will be only too happy to talk about a difference between the accusations and the performance. Ads like this will push even the Trump friendly Fox News to discuss how Biden did relative to this baseline.

    Time123 (ea2b98)

  4. @3 I wonder if it does set kind of a low bar for Biden to cross, though. One of the criticism of the dem campaign against GWB was that they did a lot of emphasizing how dim and inarticulate Bush was and when he was only slightly inarticulate and a normal amount of dim people decided he wasn’t that bad.

    Nic (896fdf)

  5. @4 yup.

    Time123 (ea2b98)

  6. @3: By that metric, if Trump doesn’t say anything racist and doesn’t inject the moderator with fish tank cleaner or bleach, he wins.

    beer ‘n pretzels (2bbe92)

  7. This is probably the campaign that Trump needs to run. I think* he wins a relatively low-turnout election, like the one four years ago, and I think he loses if there is a turn-out like there was in 2008. So it’s probably best for him to attack, attack, attack Biden since his base seems to appreciate it and he maybe convinces casual voters who might be interested in returning to the Obama days to tune out and ignore the election.

    * As I have said for the past year, I was wrong about everything I said and wrote in the 2016 election and I am destined to be wrong about everything I say and write in the 2020 election.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  8. Biden has gaffes. Trump lies.
    It’s not a trivial difference.

    John B Boddie (042948)

  9. A debate is high stakes for both of them. Don’s weird enunciation problems and loose dentures regularly make him look like a demented bingo regular. And he’s thin skinned enough to be easy to set off.

    I’m looking forward to them.

    john (cd2753)

  10. Biden lied about the accident that killed his wife, is there anything more elemental.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  11. @3: By that metric, if Trump doesn’t say anything racist and doesn’t inject the moderator with fish tank cleaner or bleach, he wins.

    beer ‘n pretzels (2bbe92) — 8/19/2020 @ 11:43 am

    If Trump comes across as a normal it’s likely to help him.
    -Nothing racist
    -No rants based on personal grievance
    -No weird bragging or hyperbole
    -No conspiracy theories
    -Concisely presents accurate information in a way that demonstrates some mastery of the relevant subject matter

    that might make people who were planning to vote against him reconsider.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  12. @8

    Biden has gaffes. Trump lies.
    It’s not a trivial difference.

    John B Boddie (042948) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:00 pm

    Biden is just as much as a serial liar as Trump.

    Seriously, do people not pay attention anymore? I get that the media spinning furiously to help Democrats but, all you really need to do is to watch any time Biden speaks.

    As for the Ad, for what’s it worth I know plenty of geriatric friends and family members who are concerned about Biden’s decline. I think it’s because they’re in that position that could happen to them, and watching their generation.

    whembly (c30c83)

  13. mr. president donald trump, whose mama took his kodachrome away when she saw him with julio down at schoolyard, makes a habit of attributing his own defects on others

    that’s because he only sees himself

    nk (1d9030)

  14. Biden is just as much as a serial liar as Trump.

    LOL.

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. If Trump comes across as a normal it’s not likely to help him.
    -Nothing racist
    -No rants based on personal grievance
    -No weird bragging or hyperbole
    -No conspiracy theories
    -Concisely presents accurate information in a way that demonstrates some mastery of the relevant subject matter

    that might make his most fervent supporters who were planning to vote for him reconsider.

    nk (1d9030)

  16. Whembly, I’m glad he’s admitted guilt and I think he should be punished.

    One thing that’s interesting, the information he added to the email, that Page was not a source, was accurate per the CIA. Again, he falsified evidence in his submission, but he didn’t provide incorrect information. What he should have done, is asked the CIA to re-send the email with the ‘not a source’ information included. Again, I’m glad he’s pleading guilty since I don’t think this should be brushed off as ‘no harm no foul’

    Time123 (b87ded)

  17. New DNC Official Campaign Song…

    https://youtu.be/V_ONyukSLqA

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. @18

    Whembly, I’m glad he’s admitted guilt and I think he should be punished.

    One thing that’s interesting, the information he added to the email, that Page was not a source, was accurate per the CIA. Again, he falsified evidence in his submission, but he didn’t provide incorrect information. What he should have done, is asked the CIA to re-send the email with the ‘not a source’ information included. Again, I’m glad he’s pleading guilty since I don’t think this should be brushed off as ‘no harm no foul’

    Time123 (b87ded) — 8/19/2020 @ 12:48 pm

    Buddy… where are you getting that “Page was not a source, was accurate per the CIA.”?????

    The CIA literally said Page was a source, and STILL says to this day that he was a source.

    whembly (c30c83)

  19. I read the article you linked hurriedly and drew the wrong conclusion from the part in bold. Unless there is some meangful difference between source and operational contact he’s a source. Now I’m more glad he’s being held accountable.

    During a brief court appearance via telephone Wednesday, Clinesmith admitted that he altered the email but said he believed at the time that the information he added was accurate.

    John Durham is looking into the origins of the FBI’s investigation into Russian election interference.
    Clinesmith, who provided legal advice to investigators working on the Russia investigation, told an FBI agent in an instant message that Page was “never a source” for the government, according to court records. The CIA had earlier told investigators in a memo that Page was an “operational contact” for the agency from 2008 to 2013 and provided information about his contacts with Russian intelligence officers.

    Time123 (ea2b98)

  20. Yup… It doesn’t matter what he “thought” about the accuracy of change he made. Making the change is the crime.

    whembly (c30c83)

  21. Time123 (ea2b98) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:10 pm

    My respect for you grows.

    felipe (023cc9)

  22. Agree completely, plus doesn’t matter if his change was correct or not. It’s still something he’s misrepresenting. I should have slowed down and double checked when I found something that interesting.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  23. Thanks Filipe

    Time123 (ea2b98)

  24. Jeff Zeleny
    @jeffzeleny
    ·
    NEW: @BarackObama will deliver his convention speech tonight from the Museum of the American Revolution in Philadelphia, a Democratic official tells me, a location intended to underscore “our very democracy is at stake” in this election.
    __ _

    Karol Markowicz
    @karol
    ·
    Wasn’t that the one fought by slave owners whose statues we must now remove?

    __ _

    harkin (94c32c)

  25. Joe Biden sounded the alarm about the outbreak early, whereas Donald Trump is still promising us the virus will magically ‘disappear.

    It will. Herd immunity.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity.html

    To achieve so-called herd immunity — the point at which the virus can no longer spread widely because there are not enough vulnerable humans — scientists have suggested that perhaps 70 percent of a given population must be immune, through vaccination or because they survived the infection.

    Now some researchers are wrestling with a hopeful possibility. In interviews with The New York Times, more than a dozen scientists said that the threshold is likely to be much lower: just 50 percent, perhaps even less. If that’s true, then it may be possible to turn back the coronavirus more quickly than once thought.

    It’s disappeared from New York already (they are about to restore the fare on buses, Aug 31) and they’re wondering why there isn;t some new outbreak like in Australia or New Zealand.

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200731/Research-suggests-New-York-City-may-have-reached-coronavirus-herd-immunity-threshold.aspx

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/briefing/herd-immunity-postal-service-democratic-national-convention-your-monday-briefing.html

    In some clinics in hard-hit Brooklyn neighborhoods, up to 80 percent of people who were tested at the beginning of the summer had antibodies for the virus. Over the past eight weeks, fewer than 1 percent of people tested at those same neighborhood clinics have had the virus.

    Likewise in Mumbai, a randomized household survey found that about 57 percent of people who live in the poorest areas and share toilets had antibodies, compared with just 11 percent elsewhere in the city.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  26. Trump wasn’t always so linguistically challenged. What could explain the change?
    ……
    STAT reviewed decades of Trump’s on-air interviews and compared them to Q&A sessions since his inauguration. The differences are striking and unmistakable.

    Research has shown that changes in speaking style can result from cognitive decline. STAT therefore asked experts in neurolinguistics and cognitive assessment, as well as psychologists and psychiatrists, to compare Trump’s speech from decades ago to that in 2017; they all agreed there had been a deterioration, and some said it could reflect changes in the health of Trump’s brain.
    …….
    This article is from 2017, but it is clear things haven’t improved ……

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  27. 8.Biden has gaffes. Trump lies.
    It’s not a trivial difference.

    Actually, Plagiarist JoeyBee lies and has gaffes. Trump just lies.

    One fella has an engine running on leaded they increasingly misfire; the other has a limo driver to blame.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. ^they… = that increasingly misfires

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  29. 14.Biden is just as much as a serial liar as Trump.

    Worse. He’s been at it nearly 50 years.

    Hey Joe, ‘What does Delaware? Idaho, Alaska’ is a play on words, you know.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  30. Hey Joe, ‘What does Delaware? Idaho, Alaska’ is a play on words, you know.

    YOU PLAGIARIZED THAT YOU DIRTY PLAGIARIZING PLAGIARIST WHO PLAGIARIZES

    Dave (1bb933)

  31. The headline in the prin edition says:

    New York’s Control of Virus Surprises Experts

    Leaders Watch Warily and Worry About a Second Wave

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/nyregion/coronavirus-second-wave-nyc.html

    Health experts in New York City thought that coronavirus cases would be rising again by now. Their models predicted it. They were wrong.

    New York State has managed not only to control its outbreak since the devastation of the early spring, but also to contain it for far longer than even top officials expected.

    Now, as other places struggle to beat back a resurgence and cases climb in former success-story states like California and Rhode Island, New York’s leaders are consumed by the likelihood that, any day now, their numbers will begin rising.

    The current levels of infection are so remarkable that they have surprised state and city officials: Around 1 percent of the roughly 30,000 tests each day in the city are positive for the virus. In Los Angeles, it’s 7 percent, while it’s 13 percent in Miami-Dade County and around 15 percent in Houston.

    The simple explanation for this thing is herd immunity.

    There might even be a question if an epidemic of this can sustain itself in a locality for more than three months. Many many people get mild infections.

    So – it may almost vanish from the United States in October, helped along by better testing and contact tracing and better treatments, including neutralizing monoclonal antibodies. And Democratic campaign commercials about the virus may look foolish. Coming in October, maybe. They’ll have to get people to vite early before they discover that the virus has just…vanished, and probably for good.

    It still wouldn’t be enough to save Trump’s campaign. (the virus vanishing)

    That would require making a very serious play for the urban black vote, citing, besides issues that have resonance everywhere, the need for police, even if some are bad;school choice; and maybe some new issues, like foster care, Trump went after apart of the Democratic base in 2016, he’ll have to do it again, but he can;t go for the same part of the base.

    And maybe he’d have get rid of Stephen Miller and all of his advice.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  32. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:53 pm

    Actually, Plagiarist JoeyBee lies and has gaffes. Trump just lies.

    The reason you can say Trump doesn’t have gaffes is that he not even rrying to get things right. e justtries to get things credible. (i.e. somebody else said that)

    Then, on top of his vague memory, he tweaks it somewhat (lies)

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  33. 32. Pointing out a play on words is not plagiarism, Davey. Claiming original authorship is– something Plagiarist JoeyBee is oh-so-guilty-of.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. Ben Carson says it’s premature to promote latest unproven coronavirus treatment
    …..
    “It’s not time for it yet,” Carson said in an interview with ABC News, saying the unproven extract, called oleandrin, should go through human trials before gaining approval from the Food and Drug Administration. “You need to go to the next step, you need to go through the process.”

    “What hopefully will happen is that clinical trials will occur,” Carson said. “This should go the same route as other things do. We shouldn’t, you know, skip the process.”
    ……
    Carson’s comments come after Lindell has publicly promoted oleandrin as a “miracle to the country” to treat COVID-19, while providing zero evidence to back up his claim.

    “You know, what happened with Mike Lindell, who is a fantastic salesperson, but not a scientist, perhaps distorts the process,” Carson said of his friend, who Carson said he met at a prayer breakfast many years ago. Lindell did not immediately respond to ABC News’ request for comment.
    ……
    President Trump has stopped short of promoting the drug, but has said it’s something the administration is exploring. However, on Tuesday, when asked about Lindell’s comments, said he doesn’t know anything about what he’s promoting.

    “I know nothing about it other than I know he’s got something that he’s working with some science people,” Trump said.
    …..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  35. Worse. He’s been at it nearly 50 years.

    Hey Joe, ‘What does Delaware? Idaho, Alaska’ is a play on words, you know.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 1:57 pm

    I was going to say you were wrong but on second thought, this is a good point. It’s a shame you mix it in with the plagiarism bit you keep doing.

    Biden’s been a professional politician for 50 years and is bad at talking.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  36. Biden’s been a professional politician for 50 years and is bad at talking.

    multiple brain surgeries can do that.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  37. When the heck is the at time the brain-damaged twit has been west of Wilmington– or Scranton?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  38. ^ at = last

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  39. You tried to pass off somebody else’s bon mot as your own.

    I’ve heard that’s a huge character tell.

    Dave (1bb933)

  40. @7. Yep. And Plagiarist JoeyBee is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Joseph R. Biden’s wife Jill Biden on Tuesday said questioning her husband’s cognitive abilities was “ridiculous” and not a fair campaign attack.

    ROFLMAO.

    ______

    How to short-circuit Lincoln Project whiners and wistful anti-Trump Righties determined to topple The Donald:

    Ronald Reagan warned us against Biden

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion-ronald-reagan-warned-us-against-joe-biden

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  41. @41. ROFLMAOPIP nonsense, Davey; you sound like Biden.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  42. Biden is you.

    Welcome to 1980.

    Dave (1bb933)

  43. Davey- plagiarizing my intellectual property is quite Bidenesque of you.

    Are you that desperate?

    Little Ronnie Sunshine warned you about Plagiarist JoeyBee:

    45.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ronald-reagan-warned-us-against-joe-biden

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. How to short-circuit Lincoln Project whiners and wistful anti-Trump Righties determined to topple The Donald:

    Good luck with that. I don’t trust their ‘we’re the real republicans and want to help you republicans out’ bit at all, but they have some terrific GOTV type of ads. They are perfect in two roles, one being just to absorb all the angry responses from Trump’s camp that ruined all Trump’s previous opponents. Biden doesn’t care if Trump attacks Reagan republicans lol.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  45. plagiarizing my intellectual property is quite Bidenesque of you.

    Deezy-eskanomics.

    Dave (1bb933)

  46. Let’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.

    nk (1d9030)

  47. @47. Good luck trying to knock The Reagan Diaries.

    @48. Desperate Davey, Biden was caught several times, too. Catch Trump– if you can. Those NY Yankee pinstripes are very distracting, aren’t they.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. 49.Let’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.

    Joe The Plumber is for Trump?!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  49. @47. Good luck trying to knock The Reagan Diaries.

    Doesn’t matter. Trump’s team can pour billions of rubles into attacking the Lincoln Project as a bunch of two-faced backstabbing fake republicans who didn’t hear the cry of Reagan from beyond his hallowed grave. Doesn’t matter.

    Trump won in the past by viciously sliming all his previous opponents. This time, Biden’s high roading and barely even running a campaign, so it’s just Trump failing to connect a lot of hits on this old man, and Trump making a lot of dents in an entity that isn’t on the ballot.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  50. Republican president elected 40 years ago doesn’t like Democrat Senator.

    Doesn’t matter. It’s like Hirono telling us she is not going to vote for Trump. Well yeah.

    Republican president elected before I was born differs with the Lincoln Project of today, showing they aren’t really all that Republicany. Well yeah.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  51. 52.@47. Good luck trying to knock The Reagan Diaries.Doesn’t matter.

    ROFLMAOPIP The god-like-gospel; the words according to Saint Ronald The Omnipotent “Doesn’t metter?!?!?!?!”

    Heresy!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. 53.Republican president elected 40 years ago doesn’t like Democrat Senator.

    A ‘senator’ running for president who was forced to quit because he was caught and outted as a serial plagiarist.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  53. Pretty tone-deaf coming from Trump, whose sanity, let alone his mental acuity, is widely questioned. But let’s be fair here: Demand that both candidates submit to a panel of mental tests, from IQ to senility, and that the results are then made public.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  54. I’m more interested in the candidates’ Alzheimer’s status than I am in their tax returns.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  55. Point: 173,000 coronavirus in the United States to date, 1,205 in the last 24 hours.
    Counterpoint: Biden plagiarized something in college 50 years ago, and, oh yeah, he don’t talk so good neither.

    nk (1d9030)

  56. Just just flush that orange stuff in the toilet. We’ll worry about what else gets dumped in when it happens.

    nk (1d9030)

  57. Demand that both candidates submit to a panel of mental tests, from IQ to senility, and that the results are then made public.

    Trump would just cheat, like he does in business, marriage, the draft, elections, the SAT, golf, etc.

    Dave (1bb933)

  58. coronavirus DEATHS

    nk (1d9030)

  59. @58. Counterpoint: Biden plagiarized several somethings running for president 32 years ago, which forced him to quit his campaign and, oh yeah, he don’t talk so good neither even when he steals the words of others.

    FIFY.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  60. One of the things that debates do is allow the viewers to see the candidates would the press (or PR firms) forming the image. This can work both ways (e.g. Nixon, 1960). The press is universally cheerleading for the Democrats (go look at the WaPo today), and trashing Trump at every opportunity. Both candidates have their good and bad moments and if the press, blogs, etc, only show the good from one and the bad from the other, people can be misled.

    Personally, I hope the debates make it clear that NEITHER of these men is worth a warm pitcher of spit, and the people blame the two broken parties for this mess.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  61. O.M.G.

    CNN talking heads apologizing for Obama’s speech even before the tap of it rolls.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. Trump would just cheat, like he does in business, marriage, the draft, elections, the SAT, golf, etc.

    What, he sends one of his minions in to take the IQ test, hoping no one will notice? Assuming he has a smart minion?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  63. ^tap=tape

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. And in what way did Trump cheat in the 2016 election? He had a few Ruission trolls interefere on the Interwebs and this somehow drowned out the NY Times, WaPo, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc, who were all doing him dirt and whom Hillary was openly colluding with?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  65. And your guy Trump is going to get Biden elected Plagiarist in Chief.

    Glorious.

    Dave (1bb933)

  66. Let’s just flush the toilet, okay? It’s not complicated.

    Wave bye-bye to Biden and Cardi B… https://youtu.be/10cRNiXlWRQ

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  67. It’s really terrible when I have to choose between the hated Trump, who should drop dead, and patent BS from anti-Trump propagandists.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  68. And in what way did Trump cheat in the 2016 election?

    See Cohen, Michael.

    Dave (1bb933)

  69. What, he sends one of his minions in to take the IQ test, hoping no one will notice? Assuming he has a smart minion?

    Or he gets the key and writes the answers on the Resolute desk with a Sharpie…

    Dave (1bb933)

  70. …and the people blame the two broken parties for this mess.

    Yep. Back in the day, the party knew FDR wasn’t going to live long and the powers that be tagged a reluctant Truman. Reagan’s mind was suspect but GHWB at least had both Yale crewing oars in the water. No such luck today.

    You want an almost certain President Kamala Harris?

    Vote for the Plagiarist JoeyBee.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  71. You could probably get odds in Vegas that Biden won’t be speaking at the 2024 DNC.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. Dat song should be considered a public service, as it’s the closest some will ever get to it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  73. the words according to Saint Ronald The Omnipotent “Doesn’t metter?!?!?!?!”

    Heresy!

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:08 pm

    It doesn’t matter because we already calculated in that Joe Biden isn’t a republican, and therefore doesn’t enjoy the support of Ronald Reagan. It would be amazing if, say Dubya came out and endorsed Biden (And indeed that’s the point of this Reagan thing, a lot of living Republicans are awkwardly tepid about Trump, and several are actually breaking with their party). You gotta endorse Trump with the dead president’s moldy arm waving around, instead of getting anyone the GOP still respects to do it.

    Think about it.

    It’s really terrible when I have to choose between the hated Trump, who should drop dead, and patent BS from anti-Trump propagandists.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:27 pm

    This is a particularly amusing comment. But I get it. Instead of sobering up at what the fringes have done, the democrats are maximizing the moment. It’s not that they don’t understand that a centrist democratic party from the 1990s would restore our country. It’s that they oppose that.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  74. What, he sends one of his minions in to take the IQ test, hoping no one will notice? Assuming he has a smart minion?

    He gets one of his minions, who wants to be Secretary of HHS or alternatively a Congressman from Texas, to give him the test. Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

    But that’s just …. The POS has been tested for three and a half years now, and all he’s been doing is stinking up the place. Flush it!

    nk (1d9030)

  75. 68. And your guy Trump is going to get Biden a government funeral and Harris as your president. Glorious?!

    FIFY

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  76. It doesn’t matter

    Except it does. Don’t spend all your Reagan Dimes in one place. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  77. mr. president donald trump, who is blue as he can be become his steady boy said ship ahoy and left the navy, knows whom to bribe and how

    that is a new york truth

    ineluctable

    nk (1d9030)

  78. Except it does. Don’t spend all your Reagan Dimes in one place. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 5:38 pm

    LOL ok man. Thanks for the game changing announcement that Ronald Reagan, who is dead now, endorsed his choice for VP as candidate for president against a democrat who opposed Reagan’s political party.

    Truly a non-boring development that takes into account the elephant in the room. Reagan thought Putin’s KGB was quote “evil” and worth tremendous sacrifice to defeat, and Biden is running against Putin’s administration.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  79. What’s weird is that all of Trump’s supporters smell like Reagan smells right now.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  80. And your guy Trump is going to get Biden a government funeral and Harris as your president. Glorious?!

    Short-term pain for long-term gain.

    Welcome to 1980.

    Dave (1bb933)

  81. I tell you, we don’t need that ’round here
    Don’t want to smell that stench, let’s make it disappear
    It’s not fit to be President, throw it out on its ear
    So flush it, just flush it

    You better run, better air out that can
    Like a sewer that’s backed up, it’s not fit for beast or man
    It won’t be too tough, just turn on that window fan
    So flush it, flush it, flush it
    Flush it, flush it, flush it

    nk (1d9030)

  82. Flush it!

    nk (1d9030)

  83. “Hey, it’s me Kamala…”

    Hey, Kamala, it’s me, DCSCA: I’m voting for The White Team; they landed men on the moon.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  84. You better run, better air out that can
    Like a sewer that’s backed up, it’s not fit for beast or man
    It won’t be too tough, just turn on that window fan
    So flush it, flush it, flush it
    Flush it, flush it, flush it

    There’s a man who just ate more than his fill of Chicago deep dish.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  85. @83. Short-term pain for long-term gain.

    Trump-Pence 2020: welcome to 1968.

    FIFY.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  86. DCSCA has gone full Hoagie.

    urbanleftbehind (7fb72d)

  87. When Delaware’s Biden talks climate change one word comes to mind: DuPont.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  88. @89. They parties are serving up turkeys, white meat is more popular than dark meat– but everybody loves the gravy.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  89. You’re skirting the edge of the cliff now, DCSCA.

    nk (1d9030)

  90. Memo to Billie Eilish- your ‘My Future’ is into minute 15.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  91. He’s a few burns short of a full orbit…

    Dave (1bb933)

  92. @92. Hardly; at least they’re not serving up ham– maybe just ham salad.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  93. @84. There’s no need to fear, we now have a…. Space Forceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  94. @93 Fewer drugs and more enunciation probably would’ve helped.

    Nic (896fdf)

  95. defund teh police
    and hand over your damn guns
    and we’ll make it stop

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  96. Somebody really ought to remind the DNC that 75% of the American electorate is… white. Their convention is the best commercial for the Trump/Pence ticket they never produced.

    … and The Silent Majority smiled.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  97. @97. =chortle= No kidding.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  98. Deezy-eska’s saying the quiet parts out loud now.

    Dave (1bb933)

  99. @101. Facts are stubborn things; never forget: The White Team landed men on the moon.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  100. The Nazis already had their bases there to guide von Braun’s Earth teams down and to refuel them for the journey back, DCSCA.

    nk (1d9030)

  101. @102 Sigh. There’s a movie you should see about who did the programing that landed us on the moon.

    Nic (896fdf)

  102. “It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.

    When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.

    Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colors, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.

    They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.

    They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.

    Many law enforcement officers are veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.

    If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.”

    — – Sheriff D. Clarke

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  103. @104. =sigh back at you= I’ll cut you some slack on this as you likely don’t know. There’s a history you should read that will tell you all about ‘The White Team’ – and who led it for Eleven: start w/Gene Kranz.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. @103. ‘Our Germans were better than their Germans.’ – credit to Tom Wolfe, no plagiarist he.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  105. @106 They could not have done it without their team, and the team was diverse.

    Nic (896fdf)

  106. There’s a history you should read that will tell you all about ‘The White Team’ – and who led it for Eleven: start w/Gene Kranz.

    …some time back in the Permian Era.

    Dave (1bb933)

  107. Well alrighty then, at least Kranz was more of a pointy-helmet Zimmerman telegram kind of German (he did make some proto-Haiku spawn, if Wikipedia is to be believed).

    urbanleftbehind (7fb72d)

  108. @104. Postscript: consider yourself schooled, Nic:

    The White Team for Apollo 11

    https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/msfn_missions/Apollo_11_mission/a11_White_Team.html

    ‘The White Team for Apollo 11. Gene Kranz’s White team of Flight Controllers in the MOCR was on shift at critical moments during the Apollo 11 mission, most notably, the descent and landing. These two team photos were taken at the conclusion of the mission. Gene Kranz’s White Team, at the conclusion of the Apollo 11 mission.’

    =mike-drop=

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  109. …some time back in the Permian Era.

    Welcome to 1969.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  110. @108. See #106. ‘The White Team.’ =mike-drop=

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  111. While utterly predictable, I think this is a high-risk strategy for the campaign, because any attack on Biden’s mental acuity can be turned around and made about Trump’s in spades. Hundreds and hundreds of newspaper articles, magazines, books, television interviews, going back decades, are fair game now. Plus, four years of incompetence, ineptitude, corruption, and blatant cronyism, not to mention inane conspiracy theories galore.

    If the Biden campaign were smart, they would take the high road, ignore these accusations, and let the DNC and PACs do the dirty work for them. There definitely is more than enough dirt to throw around.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  112. 39. 40. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/19/2020 @ 4:33 pm

    When the heck is the last time the brain-damaged twit has been west of Wilmington– or Scranton?

    Probably June 5. And he not on;yw went west of Pennsylvania, but west of the Mississippi River.

    He was in Houston for a private meeting with the family of George Floyd, one day ahead of the official ceremonies (which he attended virtually)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/politics/joe-biden-george-floyd-funeral.html

    By the way, the New York Times reports today, on page 20, that there’s some division between Joe Biden and “progressives” on the matter of police:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/democrats-biden-defund-police.html

    Joe Biden’s comment at the convention that “most cops are good” and that the bad ones need to be prosecuted struck an array of activists as discordant at a moment when many are calling for transformational change.

    In a virtual convention this week that is heavy on personality and light on policy, Democrats have presented a unified front on issues of racial justice, declaring that the status quo is not acceptable.

    Not far beneath the surface, however, lies broad disagreement over policing, with the reform-oriented proposals of Joseph R. Biden Jr., the party’s nominee, falling well short of the demands of progressive activists who believe that police departments need to be significantly downsized or abolished.

    I don’t know why they are afraid of them. Abolishing or significantly downsizing the police doesn’t have much support even in (or maybe especially in) segregated communities, I mean at the grass roots level. Among non-criminals, of course. But the criminals mostly don’t vote.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  113. 105. “It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public.

    The police are the professionals. They get training. The public doesn’t.

    This gets things backwards.

    Police have to take account of people’s emotions, and stupidities. It’s like defensive driving. You don;t say the crash was not preventable because the other driver made a mistake.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  114. Gabby Giffords gave averry very short speech last night. She was preceded by a very carefully selected mother = her son was shot, and lived but was extremely disabled/

    The point was that guns were bad.

    The subtext was to endorse a snake oil solution. (and certainly not stop question and frisk)

    Whether the solution works or not does’s not matter. Whether money would accomplish its stated objectives doesn’t matter.

    Because….markets are efficient when the government is dong something?

    Obama gave a good speech. His points wee at least debateable.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  115. 116… people need training, Sammy. If they, as children, aren’t taught to follow lawful orders issued by the people given the power and responsibility to do so, that is a massive dereliction of duty perpetrated by parents. One that can have fatal consequences.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. Like having 3 officers smother you until you beg for your mother and die.

    Time123 (7cca75)

  117. Kingsnakes primarily eat rattlesnakes. But they are harmless to humans. Sheriff Clarke should go for a long walk off a long pier.

    nk (1d9030)

  118. Sorry. Sheriff Clarke should go for a long walk off a *short* pier.

    nk (1d9030)

  119. Enough fentanyl in his blood (among other controlled substances) in his blood to kill an elephant and the fear of a 6th stretch in the state pen doesn’t help, but yes, he shouldn’t have died for his lifestyle.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  120. I know you don’t care about truth or accuracy but just to keep this fact based.

    The Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s autopsy report says toxicology testing found fentanyl and evidence of recent methamphetamine use in Floyd’s system. But the report ultimately ruled the death of George Floyd a homicide. The updated version of the medical examiner’s report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a “cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officers.”

    A separate autopsy ordered by Floyd’s family and released by attorney Benjamin Crump determined that asphyxia from sustained pressure was the cause of death. The additional autopsy was conducted after the family said that the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s findings “do not address in detail the effect of the purposeful use of force on Mr. Floyd’s neck and the extent of Mr. Floyd’s suffering at the hands of police.”

    They Jury will ultimately get a chance to review all of the evidence and make a decision.

    Time123 (7cca75)

  121. Many of the victims of excessive police force are criminals (often petty and/or habitual criminals, like George Floyd).

    Expecting train future criminals to follow behave responsibly when surrendering to police seems more than a little mad.

    If it were that easy, we could presumably also train them not to forge checks, shoplift, rob people, sell drugs, etc., obviating the need for the police to confront them in the first place…

    Dave (1bb933)

  122. This is sicker:

    Oklahoma officers charged with murder after using Tasers more than 50 times in man’s death, investigators say

    They tased him more than 50 times because they told him to put his hands behind his back so they could cuff him and he would not. They never once tried to put him in a wrist-lock and bring his hands behind his back themselves. It was a sick sadistic domination game.

    nk (1d9030)

  123. @126, That’s horrifying.

    Time123 (7cca75)

  124. Federal officials still working hard to prevent people from being cured of Covid – these are the “scientists” that Joe Biden says Trump should be listening to and to whom he’s listening to too much

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/blood-plasma-covid-19.html

    WASHINGTON — Last week, just as the Food and Drug Administration was preparing to issue an emergency authorization for blood plasma as a Covid-19 treatment, a group of top federal health officials including Dr. Francis S. Collins and Dr. Anthony S. Fauci intervened, arguing that emerging data on the treatment was too weak, according to two senior administration officials.

    The authorization is on hold for now as more data is reviewed, according to H. Clifford Lane, the clinical director at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. An emergency approval could still be issued in the near future, he said.

    Remember, all treatments should be considered innocent of doing any good until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is better than 20 medicines go unused than that one ineffective one be used. And the only way to prove something is useful is to give half the people a placebo.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  125. Or rabdoml;y give it or not.

    If something is available for certain no sensible person will enroll in a clinical trial, so they’ve got to slow down its use.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)


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