Majority Polled Say Trump Is Hurting Efforts to Slow Virus
[guest post by Dana]
The new Quinnipiac Poll doesn’t deliver good news for the president because that pesky virus just won’t give him a break:
62% of registered voters say President Trump is hurting efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus, compared to 31% who say he’s helping, according to a Quinnipiac University poll out Wednesday.
The big picture: 36% of Americans approve of Trump’s overall job performance, and 60% disapprove — his worst net approval rating since August 2017 and a 6-point drop from June. The poll has Joe Biden with a 15% advantage nationally over Trump, widening his lead from last month by 7 points.
Between the lines: On his handling of the economy, Trump’s approval rating dropped to 36% in July as states force more businesses to close again due to the nationwide surge in coronavirus cases.
“Trump’s strongest card, the economy, shredded by a killer virus, may have left the president with no go-to issue or trait to stave off defeat,” said Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy.
Here are some breakdowns:
61% disapprove of the way Trump has handled reopening schools.
67% say they do not trust the information Trump is providing about the coronavirus.
65% say they trust the information provided by Anthony Fauci, whom White House officials have sought to discredit in recent days.
Meanwhile, Fauci has pushed back against White House trade adviser Peter Navarro’s op-ed, in which Navarro claims that Fauci “has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on”:
Fauci called White House attacks on him “bizarre” and said they ultimately damaged Trump.
“I cannot figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that,” he said. “I think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do, because it’s only reflecting negatively on them.”
“I can’t explain Peter Navarro,” he said. “He’s in a world by himself.”
Meanwhile, the White House has distanced themselves from Navarro, claiming that he went “rogue” with the op-ed, and circumvented the usual channels of approval:
“The Peter Navarro op-ed didn’t go through normal White House clearance processes and is the opinion of Peter alone. @realDonaldTrump values the expertise of the medical professionals advising his Administration,” White House director of strategic communications Alyssa Farah tweeted.
President Trump entered the fray when asked about the op-ed, saying that:
He [Navarro] made a statement representing himself. He shouldn’t be doing that. I have a very good relationship with Anthony. We’re all on the same team.
However, Trump stopped short of refuting Navarro’s claims about Fauci.
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (25e0dc) — 7/15/2020 @ 5:33 pmThe story here is that one out of three still ever believes Trump, much less says he’s doing a good job.
As Orin Kerr put it:
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/15/2020 @ 5:46 pmHouston Chronicle posted an obit that’s 43 pages long today.
Houstonians also are seeing Biden for Prez ads on TV now. And Biden’s comfortably ahead in Texas. Even if you think the polls are garbage, he’s definitely in the running in Texas.
It’s a terrible year for the GOP and if a Republican is sincerely concerned about what that means, about what a Biden administration means, about court nominations, they must demand a different nominee. I’m not saying that will stop Biden. But it will save a lot of downticket races if the whole reason Bernie bros are showing up is suddenly gone.
Dustin (d0158a) — 7/15/2020 @ 5:46 pm“Poll” suggests there is a ‘secret Trump vote’ – the ‘Silent Majority.’
It’s out there. May even be your next door neighbor. An anecdotal case-in-point; driving to the PO at lunch time in Southern California– a family had set up a TRUMP hat, flag and T-shirt stand with a yuuuuuge red Trump banner at the roadside in a parking lot. Thought they were crazy. Within less than half an hour- my time in line at the PO- the stand was crowded w/patrons and more surprisingly, the 18-wheelers; the truckers, were honking approvingly as they drove by: “Eastbound and down; loaded up and Trumpin’…”
It was surprising to see. So don’t kid yourselves or whistle past the graveyard: it is a mistake to underestimate the depth and breadth of support for The Donald.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/15/2020 @ 6:09 pmTrump Demotes Brad Parscale, His Campaign Manager, and Elevates Bill Stepien
Rip Murdock (6c1761) — 7/15/2020 @ 6:41 pm2. I can think that Trump is doing a terrible job, and still believe that he’s not responsible for the fast spread of a virus so deadly, you probably won’t even know you have it if you don’t get tested.
Gryph (08c844) — 7/15/2020 @ 6:55 pmThere’s 138,000 who don’t know now that they had it, and never will no matter how many times you test them.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/15/2020 @ 7:23 pmGryph, here’s an income opportunity you may want to get in on.
You’re welcome.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/15/2020 @ 9:28 pmThere’s 138,000 who don’t know now that they had it, and never will no matter how many times you test them.
Those 138,000 heroically sacrificed themselves so that you could use them as a political prop.
beer ‘n pretzels (8dac67) — 7/15/2020 @ 10:06 pmI actually get along really well with my neighbors because I save my contrarian BS for this blog (you’re welcome). They are uniformly for Biden. Not a one of them like Biden. He would be easy to beat.
He has failed at everything he’s ever done. He can’t even wear hair. He can barely walk. A cup of water eludes his enfeebled mind. He shouts nonsense about eating bleach and being THE LONE RANGER. He is an idiot.
Granted, Trump’s the kind of dictator to have 100% popular vote wins. But he’s not a dictator. He’s just a loser. He’s never won a popularity contest in his life, even against Hillary. He can’t even keep his prostitutes happy, and he pays them more than his lawyers (and they earn every penny).
It is a mistake to overestimate Trump and unfortunately the GOP made that mistake. Look at the ruin he has left in so many lives. The GOP is going to fight a war Trump has already lost. He will walk away a worldwide disgrace, bitter, cussing us, perhaps killing people in his lame duck era before someone shuts him down quietly.
You know everyone on his cabinet has trouble sleeping, imagining how the 25th amendment could play out and save us. Every one of them.
Dustin (d0158a) — 7/15/2020 @ 10:17 pmThey didn’t sacrifice themselves. Some were unavoidable casualties of a pandemic. Many more were preventable casualties of, in the best case, incompetence, and in the worst, culpable dereliction of duty. Three were friends. I mourn their loss and take them as seriously as, well, a pandemic. I wish I saw evidence that Trump and his cult of Renfields take them nearly so seriously.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/15/2020 @ 10:58 pmMaybe he is, maybe he isn’t, but the media seems to have that as a narrative.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 7/15/2020 @ 11:05 pmLurker, I’m sorry you lost three friends. The year has hit us all, even the ones who don’t like to see it.
Dustin (d0158a) — 7/15/2020 @ 11:09 pmThanks, Dustin.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/15/2020 @ 11:18 pmthe china flu is so deadly you don’t know you have it
mg (8cbc69) — 7/16/2020 @ 2:22 amuntil your tested
9. Political prop, eh? What’s my agenda? Where are my ulterior motives? You can agree or disagree with me, but I think I’ve been pretty straightforward in my beliefs here.
Sounds to me like if these casualties “heroically sacrificed themselves” to a disease, I’m not the only one using them as a political prop (assuming that I even am).
7. Right. Because people never die of anything else, and if it weren’t for this pandemic which Trump started, we’d all be immortal and live forever./ SMDH
Gryph (08c844) — 7/16/2020 @ 3:13 am16
Read it again. It was directed at me, not you.
Don’t light any matches near all that straw. Also, if your only reaction to the untimely death of 138,000 of your fellow citizens is to hand wave indifferently about how we all die of something, consider at least pretending to care. It’s a less ghoulish look.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:56 am17. 7000-8000 people die of all non-covid deaths daily. This does concern me insofar as I hope someday we can lessen that number without completely torching our economy out of irrational fear. But I’m not going to mourn 138,000 anonymous people because the media and a bunch of blog commenters tell me I should.
Besides, that number is highly suspect.
Gryph (08c844) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:59 am18.
Heaven forfend. You do you.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:12 amAlso, JAMA study shows COVID deaths are under-reported.
how many errors like this,
https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/15/florida-labs-incorrectly-reported-a-100-positivity-rate-for-coronavirus-tests/
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:21 amwhere certain contagions are given free reign
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/coronavirus-in-one-state-72.php
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:24 amwhere certain contagions are given free reign
… and terror is the Order of the Day…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:26 am19. So? What if the JAMA study is wrong? Or has an agenda? 300 labs in Florida alone had 100% positive rates because they didn’t report any negatives. You won’t find that in any JAMA study.
Gryph (08c844) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:30 amBoo
mg (90cdd5) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:30 amhow can data be this skewed five six months in, berenson is my guide to reconciling the numbers, not any partisan, of course some on this board are on team cuomo since the beginning, they must really hate their elders,
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 6:34 amGryph,
You want to be indifferent to 138,000 Americans dying? That’s up to you. You want to spin evidence-free conspiracy theories about JAMA having an agenda? Again, suit yourself. You can believe my wife is ugly and my dad assassinated JFK for all I care.
I just have one question. If all those people dying is no big deal, why do you want there to be fewer of them?
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:13 amIf all those people dying is no big deal, why do you want there to be fewer of them?
Those deaths are a big deal, and so are the hundreds of thousands dead of Covid outside the US which you don’t think are a big deal because you can’t pin them on Trump. They have no political value to you.
beer ‘n pretzels (7b79e1) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:22 amUSA Today just annotated Navarro’s hit piece on Fauci.
It’s vaguely reminiscent of the Tom Cotton op-ed at the NYT, but without all the behind-the-scenes intolerant illiberal drama from all woke scolding karens in the newsroom.
Paul Montagu (5ffc5f) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:34 amDp they fact check other Op-Ed pieces?
Like anything that says anything about incidents of African Americans killed by police?
Maybe they do.
Sammy Finkelman (b4888e) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:42 amThe article published in JAMA tells you nothing new. It is trivial and obviously correct. It could have been a high school or college term paper.
Sammy Finkelman (b4888e) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:50 am27.
If you have a reason apart from your awesome mind reading skills for believing I don’t care about foreign COVID victims, please do share. I would hate to think you just pulled a scurrilous accusation like that out of your butt.
Now the recursiveness of thinking about a butt-gerbil’s butt is making my head hurt. Thanks, Obama.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:50 amThe number of deaths that can properly be attributed to Covid may actually be greater than the number of excess deaths. We had fewer deaths due to automobile accidents, work accidents, non-emergency operations, etc.
Sammy Finkelman (b4888e) — 7/16/2020 @ 7:53 amIf you have a reason apart from your awesome mind reading skills for believing I don’t care about foreign COVID victims, please do share.
Aside from the fact — midst all your sanctimonious haranguing of another commenter about “pretending to care” and a “ghoulish look” — you never mention them?
beer ‘n pretzels (3bd502) — 7/16/2020 @ 8:33 amYou haven’t mentioned your family. You obviously don’t care about them.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 8:57 amI see. Ridiculously strained analogies are the lengths you will go to avoid mentioning the many hundreds of thousands dead outside the US.
beer ‘n pretzels (fbad48) — 7/16/2020 @ 9:12 amWhy do you refuse to mention your family?
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 9:28 amLOL. If I had hundreds of thousands of deaths in my family, I would certainly bring it up on a blog like this, lurker.
beer ‘n pretzels (fbad48) — 7/16/2020 @ 9:42 amSo you don’t care enough about your family to mention them unless hundreds of thousands of them die?
Are you familiar with the aphorism, “absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence?”
Pull your head out of Trump’s butt long enough to oxygenate your brain; then think about it.
Then grow up.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:10 amread the stats, not the press release,
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1283765309208485891.html
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:17 amread the stats, not the press release,
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1283765309208485891.html
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:17 amI’m thinking about how grown up your personal attack is, lurker.
beer ‘n pretzels (aee173) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:22 ambnp,
Kidding aside, and the aphorism notwithstanding, I obviously don’t think the absence of evidence that you care about your family means there is evidence you don’t care about them. And you know full well the same goes for my feelings about foreign COVID deaths. So seriously, how about you just grow up?
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:24 amLOL. You mean my personal attack on your evidence-free smear of my character? That personal attack?
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:26 am51 years ago today– when America truly was great- and showed the world why…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzjYgfCg2VI
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:34 amAlex Berenson is another of those pro-Trump CV19 downtalkers who cherry-picked data from one medical center in one county in TX. Anyone who wants to “read the stats” can go right to the stats. For extra credit, take that spreadsheet and compute the statewide 7-day moving average and anyone can see that it has hospitalizations have increased every single day since May 27th.
Paul Montagu (5ffc5f) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:50 amnumbers how do they work,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/oklahoma-gov-kevin-stitt-tests-positive-for-wuhan-coronavirus/#comments
narciso (7404b5) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:52 am“62% of registered voters say President Trump is hurting efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus”
Why would they think that?
Discourages masks… check.
Encourages mass indoor rallies… check.
Ignores social distancing… check.
Requests testing reductions… check.
Attacks medical experts…. check.
Encourages unproven remedies… check.
Could the man do worse?
noel (4d3313) — 7/16/2020 @ 11:11 amOmg:
Here is what Fauci said yesterday, followed by his clarification:
Dana (25e0dc) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:18 pm26. We’re all “indifferent,” as you seem to understand the term, to nearly 8000 Americans who die every day of various-and-sundry non-CoViD-19 causes. I know to an absolute certitude that you don’t weep for every car accident victim, every abortion victim ripped from the womb, or every nursing home patient that dies well into their 80’s, 90’s, or beyond, let alone do you weep for every heart attack or drug overdose victim that dies before their time. And you know why you don’t? Because the media doesn’t “care” enough to tell you about them.
Contrary to what some seem to think here, I’m not a cruel and uncaring person. But I’m not fearful either. Another thing I know with 100% certainty is that I will die. You will die. Everyone dies. It’s only a matter of how and when. I’d rather worry about living while I am still alive than fret over when my time will be up.
Gryph (08c844) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:27 pm45… what’s the avg. stay of those hospitalized? Death rate increasing or decreasing?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:32 pmSpeak for yourself. That attitude is not normal, but people who feel this way spend their whole lives trying to normalize it, insisting everyone is coldly self-centered. No, that’s not normal at all.
You could spend your whole life explaining it to him and he would never understand that what he said was an attack, and your explaining it to him was not. Trump’s real genius was harnessing this sort of thing, but I think both fringes do it.
Dustin (d0158a) — 7/16/2020 @ 5:46 pmThree were friends.
Lurker, I sympathize. I lost two.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 7/16/2020 @ 10:58 pmI have never had a friend or relative die in a car crash.
I have never had a friend or relative die of the flue.
In the first 2 weeks of April, I lost two friends to Covid-19.
You can take your statistics (which you don’t know how to use anyway) and put them where the sun don’t shine.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 7/16/2020 @ 11:01 pm*flu
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 7/16/2020 @ 11:02 pm#52, 53.
Thanks, and my sympathies for your losses as well.
The closest comparison to COVID in my experience was Nam. I was too young to be personally involved, but old enough to remember nightly news reports, and I wince even now at the mental image of body counts, which seemed big to me at the time, and of agonized loved ones. I knew two people killed over eight years, neither well, and that felt like a lot.
Now, not unlike you, I lost three friends in a little over a month. That blows everything previous right out of the water.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 7/17/2020 @ 4:07 am53. Statistics aren’t there to be “used.” It’s simple math, Kevin. And facts don’t care about your feelings. When people start panicing during flu season and start weeping for the thousands of people who die in car crashes on a daily basis, I might start coming around. I don’t seeing that happen, though. There’s not a lot of rational thought here.
*SNORT* “Misusing statistics.” That’s rich.
Gryph (08c844) — 7/17/2020 @ 4:51 amWhile we’re comiserating here, I lost my brother to a huffing incident. I nearly lost my father to a heart attack. My grandmother passed away at the age of 86 from a stroke, and I saw an interview on TV about someone who lost his grandmother to CoViD (supposedly) at the age of 89! I’m supposed to feel bad for someone who loses their grandparent at the age of 89 just because of how she died? That rates a news segment on a major television network?! I can’t even…
Gryph (08c844) — 7/17/2020 @ 4:56 amI lost my first uncle to heart attack at 54, my grandfather to a stroke occassioned by complication from heart attack at 84, i know what does it matter i chose not to smoke because of that.
Narciso (7404b5) — 7/17/2020 @ 6:08 am