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5/12/2020

New Campaign Ads From Team Trump and Team Biden

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:15 am



[guest post by Dana]

Due to time constraints, I’m just going to throw these against the wall, and see what sticks…

From Team Trump, here is “Tough Steps”:

( Right off the bat, I see that the definition of the word “banned” is up for grabs. You can read a fact check of the ad here. )

From Team Biden:

(Honestly, this is such a long, visual mess, I lost interest about 30 seconds into it.)

What do you think?

–Dana

24 Responses to “New Campaign Ads From Team Trump and Team Biden”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (0feb77)

  2. As messaging to stupid people goes, the T-rump ad is effective, as you’d predict.

    The Biden ad should be at least two ads. Each would be effective.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  3. If Trump didn’t lie, he’d be diagnosed as mute. He already doesn’t listen.

    nk (1d9030)

  4. Trump’s ad was filled with lies.
    Biden’s ad was a factual visual timeline with a hard conclusion. I didn’t see it as a “visual mess”. It represented what happened, or didn’t happen by Trump. For television, it should be cut down to a minute, with an even harder conclusion, that the blood of dead Americans is on Trump’s hands for his series of bad decisions and non-decisions.
    FTR, I’m voting for Amash, conditioned on the LP not picking a loony tune for a running mate.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  5. I think Biden trying blame Trump for the virus is a bad move.

    Hoi Polloi (dc4124)

  6. Well my sister, niece and nephew all have antibodies from the Wuhan Flu. She was sick as a dog in late February for 3 weeks while my niece and nephew had mild symptoms for 2-3 days. And she believes she caught it on a bus from a sick Asian man about a week earlier. Gotta love NYC public transit.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  7. Trump’s commercial is better because it’s short and to the point. It’s full of lies, but that doesn’t really matter for the subject at hand. I think the voice over on it was just a hair short of being over the top. Also, didn’t bloomberg use the “get’s it done” thing already?

    Time123 (b87ded)

  8. We will transition to greatness.

    Dave (1bb933)

  9. give it up dave, ‘fetch’ is never going to happen.

    Time123 (c9382b)

  10. I think Biden trying blame Trump for the virus is a bad move.

    China is responsible for it coming here, Trump is responsible at least in part for its spread and for the dead Americans.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  11. Biden’s ad was a factual visual timeline with a hard conclusion. I didn’t see it as a “visual mess”. It represented what happened, or didn’t happen by Trump.

    I should have been more specific: I think the ad is a visual mess because of the design presentation. There is an overload of varying fonts and letter sizes that are distracting. Also, highlighting portions in both yellow and orange doesn’t help with any cohesiveness. Moreover, half of the ad is in italics, the other half not. This does not even begin to address the muddy images and pointless calendar grid. It all suggests that an amateur did this… (more is better!). It’s not a sleek, professional ad telling a big story in a brief 60-second spot. It’s an overcrowded ad that just drags n and on. As a result, the facts get mired in the clutter.

    Dana (0feb77)

  12. Gotcha, Dana.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  13. I agree with Paul Montagu. The Trump ad is full of falsehoods. The Biden ad presents a factual timeline of events. It is too lengthy for television, but that’s not the medium it was prepared for. Also, notice at the end, Biden doesn’t come on and say, “I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message. There’s only a printed acknowledgment, Paid for by Biden for President. That suggests the ad wasn’t produced by the campaign, but rather a political action committee. It’s more of an anti-Trump than a pro-Biden ad though, hence the use of a narrator. Biden doesn’t speak, and the ad makes no policy recommendations.

    However, I don’t think this election will be decided by political ads on television or social media, or even at the debates, assuming any are held. Rallies and conventions might have to be conducted virtually, due to social distancing and travel restrictions.

    Biden hasn’t been seen in public or on television in weeks. He’s hunkered down at home. Thatis kind of smart actually, since he is gaffe-prone. Plus, the strategy allows Trump to embarrass himself and destroy his credibility from the bully pulpit, like he did yesterday at his press briefing.

    Ask China! Blame Obama! You would know his political crimes if you read the newspaper, but not yours. Then he stomps off in a huff. Like tirades like that exude leadership. Running away after a young female reporter of Chinese descent asks about his failure to act in the early months of the pandemic does not portray strength.

    Each press briefing becomes increasingly more disastrous. The flaw in allowing Trump to defeat himself is that eventually voters will ask Biden, what’s your plan? What are you going to do? So far he hasn’t given any answers.

    The problem with the Biden ad is that it highlights a plunging stock market. Most Americans don’t care about the stock market, because they’re not invested in it, and because they know the stock market is not the economy. It is a complete illusion that robo-trades made by private equity firsm, money management accounts, multi-national corporations, city, county and state pension funds, etc., is any indication of the health of the economy. Do you know what really reflects the health of the economy? Small businesses and residential real estate, because that’s what the vast majority of people invest in, their business and their home.

    Both markets are cratering now. Businesses are closing, unemployment is rising, and home values are plummeting. That’s the real crisis, because it affects everyone, including Wall Street wiz kids.

    The real estate market is dead. It’s deader than dead. I spent around $800 earlier this year on continuing education, license renewal, board membership, and MLS dues, and I haven’t received a commission check in months. I’m working off of savings on zero income. I costs me time, nomeey and gas just to inspect, list, market, and show a house. But there are no sellers, because there are no buyers. No one has any money or can get any financing to buy a new or repossessed home at this time. Everyone is going broke!

    The summer months are normally those with the highest sales volume. Because these are the months when most people sell their homes, buy another, and relocate, because they don’t have to take their out of school. And the school’s are all closed now, so what’s the point? I couldn’t go back to teaching, even as a substitute, if I tried.

    I talked to a friend last week, who found out that her husband was cheating on her and wanted to sell their house, thinking she had $40,000 in equity. Not in this market, I told her, honestly. There are no buyers, and it will take at least a year for a buyer to appear. And he or she, or both, won’t be offering anywhere near what you anticipate or expect.

    This is the reality, losses of equity in home values. Every seller thinks their house is worth more that it is, and every buyer thinks they can buy their dream home cheap. I get that, because I have negotiated hundreds of these deals. In the end, market value will determine sales price.

    And market values are plunging. This is what nobody wants to talk about. That equity you think you built up by paying off the mortgage on your home? It’s gone. You might be able to break even, but any profit you expected has disappeared.

    This is the new reality. A house or business in only worth what someone is willing and capable of paying for it. Actually, that’s the old reality, but that’s the point.

    Trump is a meandering idiot. So is Biden, which is why he’s stayed out of the spotlight.

    Put these two on the debate stage together, and all you’ll get is two old men, seriously suffering from dementia or mental decline, who can’t even string a coherent sentence together. And you expect one of them to lead us through this pandemic and economic crisis?

    I’ll be voting for Amash, whether by ballot or write-in. At least he offers sensible solutions.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  14. As I’ve said before, I think most voters are already fixed in their corners: Anyone but a Democrat. Anyone but Trump. These ads are only going to speak to supporters, and are unlikely to draw in new voters. I think that, while it’s very possible that Trump will shed supporters the more that they are adversely impacted by his pandemic leadership, I just don’t think they’ll go to Biden. They’ll sit out the election before they would do that. It’s just too much of a leap from MAGA to Biden. Also, Biden in the basement can work for him: he doesn’t make such a public fool of himself. But it can also be detrimental: Joe who?

    Dana (0feb77)

  15. FTR, I’m voting for Amash, conditioned on the LP not picking a loony tune for a running mate.

    I believe it’s in the party bylaws that at last one member of the ticket has to be stark raving nuts.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  16. I think Biden trying blame Trump for the virus is a bad move.

    I think that at some point the Democrats are going to have to pivot to criticism of China. If they keep flogging the idea that the virus is 100% Trump’s fault they run the risk of driving away independent voters to whom Biden was supposed to appeal. I mean, that was the whole point of taking him out of mothballs to nominate him, wasn’t it?

    JVW (54fd0b)

  17. This is the reality, losses of equity in home values. Every seller thinks their house is worth more that it is, and every buyer thinks they can buy their dream home cheap. I get that, because I have negotiated hundreds of these deals. In the end, market value will determine sales price.

    I’m in the consulting/valuation side of the biz, Gawain. There’s practically no way to establish market value from March onward because, under its definition, you need a buyer not excessively motivated and seller not under excessively duressed. It’s too jumbled up, and the dust just hasn’t settled yet to really know. It’s not unlike the 2008 financial meltdown.
    I agree about Biden. He’s doing okay in his basement, but he needs to send out a consistent message for dealing with this situation, and he also needs to go after China. He’s got time, and Trump is flailing about with lies and “Obamagate” and a load of other garbage.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  18. He closed the door to China after the virus got out. It went downhill from there. He was wrong about everything.

    It takes about fifteen seconds to prove those points. Two and a half minutes is way too long for this type of Biden ad.

    noel (4d3313)

  19. Trump’s ad was well done marketing. Biden’s ad was truer. The Biden team needs to work on punchier ads, though. This is the second one we’ve looked at that has been too long.

    Nic (896fdf)

  20. Biden;s getting better on TV. HE was on ABC this morning (which I ddn;t see but heard an excerpt of o the radio)

    He didn’t sound so hostiie toward Trump.

    He seems to have found a word to describe what he sees as Trump’s attitude toward the coranavirus from the beginning till today:

    Complacent.

    Sammy Finkelman (375edc)

  21. @ noel, #18:

    [Trump] closed the door to China after the virus got out. It went downhill from there.

    All of this is true. But, in a rare moment of me defending President Trump, I don’t think he could have closed the door earlier from a political standpoint. The outcries were loud enough when he did…much earlier, and they would have been deafening, and with far less evidence to back up the president’s decision. Which is why we’re going to continue to be hard-hit. But that’s not solely, or even mostly, on him.

    Politics is the art of the possible, not the perfect.

    Demosthenes (7fae81)

  22. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e3AxsRfXOY

    President Biden. How Does That Grab’Ya?®

    😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  23. @21 I don’t actually blame him on not closing China out immediately. That call could easily have gone either way. What I blame him for was being incredibly ineffective and dishonest once we knew it was in the US. He abrogated his responsibilities as a leader in a time of crisis and that’s inexcusable in any president.

    Nic (896fdf)

  24. @ Nic, #21:

    Agreed.

    Demosthenes (7fae81)


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