Biden Comes Roaring Back as Bloomberg Drops Out
On Saturday I said: “Biden is not to be discounted.” Always trust content from Patterico. Joe Biden won Texas and at least eight other states last night. Meanwhile, Mini Mike Bloomberg is out and will endorse Biden.
A lot has changed since three days ago, when I wrote this tweet:
Bye Mini Mike. Bye Amy. Bye Mayor Alfred E. Make way.
— Patterico (@Patterico) March 1, 2020
(Poor Amy. She never ever merited a real Trump nickname.) The centrists are now out of the race and have cleared a path for Joementum. Can you imagine if Marco Rubio and John Kasich had gotten out in 2016 as early as Klobuchar, Buttigieg, and Bloomberg have in 2020? Ah well.
One thing to note: Sanders did win Colorado and California. These are being touted as victories in western states, but the results signify something else too, as Nate Silver pointed out:
Every state except the vote-by-mail states! https://t.co/BsUz4XCnMG
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 4, 2020
There were a lotta wasted votes out there last night on people who were either already gone by yesterday or who are gone today. Here’s an interesting graphic, with 79% of the vote counted in California:
Add up the votes cast for people who today are not candidates. In other words, imagine this race without Mini Mike. Amy No-Nickname, and Mayor Alfred E. (Go ahead and imagine the race without the irrelevant Warren (third in her home state of MA!) as well, if you like — although she seems unlikely to drop. She seems more like the diehard Marco I Will Never Give Up No Matter How Obviously Hopeless It Is Rubio or the John I Have Virtually No Delegates But People Will Coalesce Around Me Just Wait and See Kasich type to me.)
You can’t simply assume that all Bloomberg, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar votes would break Biden, while all Warren votes would break Bernie. But that’s useful shorthand, and it tells you what we seem to see in races time and again: Bernie may not be as strong as he once appeared.
Interesting times.
Next up: Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota and Washington.
Patterico (115b1f) — 3/4/2020 @ 7:55 am“Can you imagine if Marco Rubio and John Kasich had gotten out in 2016 as early as Klobuchar, Buttigieg, and Bloomberg have in 2020?”
Yeah, I can. Trump would still get the nomination and #NeverTrump would still hate Cruz.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:04 amBernie will do better in the upcoming states, since we only have Miss, GA, and LA left in the South. But it looks like its just Bernie v. Hillary all over again, with Biden substituting for Mrs. Clinton. Hopefully Warren will drop out, unless Bernie needs her attack Biden at the next debate.
But Bloomberg’s strategy worked. He saved Biden by taking away the spotlight from Biden’s weakness after iowa and NH. Now, its back to NYC and his $55 Billion.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:04 amNone of this gang were/are “Centrists”. Unless its “Centrist” to agree with Bernie on everything except medicare-for-all, and Castro. Looking forward to those Never-trumper “Biden is OK with me” columns and tweets from David French, the Bulwark Boys, the Dispatch Gang, and all the other fake cons. OH look, Erick Erickson has ALREADY piled on the “Joe Biden is a moderate and I like him” train.
Guess all those Erickson attacks on Obama, were just playacting.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:08 amIn light of a dismal outcome, Elizabeth Warren is reportedly taking the day off to assess whether she still has a path to the nomination. She’ll drop out today. I’m guessing she’ll endorse Sanders, which will be weird consider he is the one who allegedly told her a woman couldn’t win a presidential election. It would be like she is putting her stamp of approval and agreement on his declaration. Especially if she ends up his running mate.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:09 amIN case anyone’s forgotten, except for attacking Bernie on a few issues here and there, Biden stood up on the stage, in debate after debate, and agreed with every crazy Left-wing position. Which isn’t surprising, since he was extreme liberal in Congress and supported Obamacare. $500 Billion spending proposal on Climate Change isn’t “Centrist”. Neither is putting Beto in charge of Gun policy.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:11 amI wouldn’t be surprised if Warren endorses Biden. Why go with Bernie? There’s bad blood between them, and she knows Bernie is a loser at this point. Much safer for her to endorse Biden and hope for a position in his administration. Maybe, head of Indian affairs.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:13 amMan, that coalesced quickly.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:14 amMaybe the Dem Party isn’t that dysfunctional after all, given how Bernie under-performed.
Warren may endorse Biden to have a chance at VP. He needs someone to attract the socialists and someone who can be what he can’t: younger, female, and articulate.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:14 amI must say, i was shocked at how badly she did. Even in Massachusetts she came in 3rd. In most states she was 4th, with about 10-15% of the vote. Even California was a bust. of course with Bloomberg out, she’ll get more votes just because its a 3 person race, but obviously she’s dead in the water in terms of delegates.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:15 amrcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:08 am
Good. #NeverTrump has no excuse to not vote for Biden in the general, rather than weaseling out and voting third party.
So, they can own the next four years of knucklehead judges, turnstile immigration, entitlements and regulations on steroids.
Because, as the past three years have shown, #NeverTrump just loves owning a single candidate. Was it Cruz, Paul, Rubio, Romney, Jeb(!)? Can’t remember anymore.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:16 amThose two old white guys shouldn’t count on the young people’s vote because they only scream on Twitter, but don’t actually vote.
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:17 amI am content knowing that Patterico and I are not alone. That there so many fellow Americans who want Trump out so badly that they would vote for Joe Biden.
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:18 amBiden will never pick Warren. She’s too old and too white. And she launched some vicious attacks on him. Plus she’s from Massachusetts which is 100% guaranteed to go D in November. Biden needs someone younger and a person of color. Abrams, Harris or Booker would fit the bill.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:18 amWarren demonstrated she can’t win. She may endorse Biden to let him blow smoke up her ass about maybe being his VP, though.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:19 amWarren would be a drag on the ticket because she’s an unlikable shrew, and Biden doesn’t need a northeastern liberal because he’ll already have those states locked up in the general without her.
Paul Montagu (8497cf) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:20 amIMO, his best pick is Klobuchar because she’s a midwesterner who can help Biden win those Middle American states that Hillary didn’t. It won’t appeal to the sky-screamers and pointy-heads and universal healthcare types, but what other choice do they have.
Yeah, if you don’t care about policy or what’s happening in the real world, it makes sense for a “Conservative” to vote for Biden. Especially if voted for Hillary in 2016, or were cool with her getting elected. BTW, did you know that Fake Cons are NOW talking about how they’re concerned with the Debt and want “smaller Government”. Hey, that’s why supporting Joe Biden. LOL.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:22 amHelp me out here, someone. Complete the sentence:
“I couldn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 but I can vote for Biden in 2020 because…. “
Seriously, I want to understand.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:25 amBenny
@bennyjohnson
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Biden just confused his wife and sister.
This guy can’t get through a day without a gaffe.
This is really the guy the Democratic Establishment is getting behind.
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Billy
@billyteddy
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Biden is going to get on stage bumble around his words. Say some fake statistic like trump killed 150 million people (like he said about guns) and then lose. I will not back a senile man as president. Trump supporters do that and I am no trump supporter.
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Kate Hyde
@KateHydeNY
Maybe Ilhan Omar will switch her endorsement after learning Biden acted like he was married to his sibling.
harkin (b64479) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:26 am_
When Bernie did so well in the first few primaries, the Democratic Party panicked. It’s almost like the “10” they brought home from the bar last night looks more like a “2” in the morning light.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:27 amWarren isn’t appealing but how likely is it that Bernie or the Obamas will help a Biden campaign? I’m not sure they will, which leaves Harris, Abrahms, or Klobuchar. The last two might help geographically. Harris seems like the best fit to me but does Biden need help in California?
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:28 amIt is entertaining to see people argue that Biden being inarticulate and stupid is a Presidential disqualifier, given our current President.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:30 am20. You got that right, Chuck. I was looking forward to seeing Mini Mike and Trump go at it post-Super Tuesday, but I guess it’s not to be.
Gryph (08c844) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:30 amBTW, did you know that Fake Cons are NOW talking about how they’re concerned with the Debt and want “smaller Government”. Hey, that’s why supporting Joe Biden.
Hey, have you noticed that T-rump sucking myrmidons lie like T-rump does? True fact.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:33 am“It is entertaining to see people argue that Biden being inarticulate and stupid is a Presidential disqualifier, given our current President.”
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:30 am
It has been equally interesting to hear people the past three years argue Trump is inarticulate and stupid who were Bush Jr. supporters.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:35 amW spoke extemporaneously at a presser when asked about the Iraq war. He spoke for about an hour, and was perfectly articulate and well-informed. You can find it on YouTube if you have any intellectual integrity, which we all know you do NOT.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:39 am“I couldn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 but I can vote for Biden in 2020 because…. “
1. I understand now it’s a binary choice.
Appalled (1a17de) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:40 am2. We’ve licked the problem of dynastic politics when Hillary lost, so Trump’s evil looms larger.
3. Biden will work with Republicans. Trump won’t.
If Biden really wants to win, he should choose a Republican as his running mate, perhaps Jeff Sessions.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:40 amGood point, Munroe. My view is that George W. (he wasn’t a Jr.) knew his limitations so he sought out and listened to smart advisors. Everyone has limitations … except Trump, of course.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:43 amSessions would never serve with Biden.
Remember, he has too much integrity for the thug in the Oval Office to stand, so Biden might be a slight notch better, but still out of the money.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:43 amI was kind of joking as thinking that would be one Hell of a slight on Trump. His former Attorney General running against him would be quite the story. But if you’ll recall, Biden floated this idea of a Republican running mate.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:48 amI didn’t know W was running in this election, Munroe. Nobody tells me anything. I’ll be voting for him, not Biden, now. Thanks, buddy!
nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:51 amBernie is a communist. Biden is communist lite. The left is insane. Support them at your own peril.
NJRob (4d595c) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:51 am4. Trump has built a border wall entirely paid for by Mexico, replaced Obamacare with something that gives everyone much better coverage at a tiny fraction of the cost, eliminated the trade deficit, brought the budget deficit under control, disarmed North Korea and Iran, locked up Hillary Clinton, drained the swamp, and made America great in these past years, so come November, his work will be done.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:52 amAppalled (1a17de) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:40 am
Honest and direct answer, Appalled. Thank you.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:53 am“Trump’s evil looms larger.”
This should be the title of an HBO miniseries.
harkin (b64479) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:54 am_
500 million dollars trying to con Americans. I guess bloomy was worse than jebby.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:55 amA shame these conceited people don’t put the money to good use.
What’d be hilarious would be for Biden to get one of the T-rump kids to run with him. They’re nominal Republicans and crazy ambitious!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:55 amHow is the grandbaby, mg?
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:57 am“I couldn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 but I can vote for Biden in 2020 because…. “
Maybe..
1. He doesn’t know how to run a criminal conspiracy.
2. He won’t try to entrench power.
3. If you have to have a bad president, it is better that they alternate, because they are bad in different ways.
But Biden cold kill his chances with the wrong vice president.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:00 amInteresting thought, Sammy.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:13 amAnyone having whiplash with arguments that Russian had outsized influence with $100,000 ad buys, but how Steyers and Bloomberg were so impotent despite spending hundreds of millions of dollars?
Its… almost as if the quality of the candidate is more important than the raw numbers of political expenditures.
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:20 amPutting spoiler tags around reality since 2003…
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:20 amDave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 8:52 am
No doubt Biden will deliver on your checklist, Dave. And, the best part: you can own the results.
Munroe (dd6b64) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:21 amHow many hacked private emails did Steyer and Bloomberg leak?
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:23 amWho do you think would be the “wrong” vice president, Sammy?
Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:24 amThis argues that, while polls show that Bernie Sanders would do as well as Joe Biden versus Trump, when you drill down, it’s really not that way
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21152538/bernie-sanders-electability-president-moderates-data
The distinctions are between different people – but each person polled is given only one scenario.
They took a large sample early this year
but asked each individual voter polled about only one Democratic candidate because they didn’t want people trying to same the poll, and you could say because in the real world you will deal with only one situation.
Only about 2% more of Republicans would choose Trump over Sanders but desert Trump when he is pitted him against a more moderate Democrat like Buttigieg, Biden, or Bloomberg. Somewhat less among independentts and Democrats.
So Biden is a stronger candidate than Sanders, but they come out looking eqal, because some of Sanders voters (mostly young) wod not vote for anyone or vote third party if the nominee was anyone other than Sanders.
It balances out, so they come out looking equal.
The authors say that it is unlikely that there would be that many additional Democratic voters if Sanders were the nominee than if Biden or some other “moderate” was. But
I think this poll could be misleading in another way because Sanders could become better known to the public. In 1988, Dukakis started out polling better than Bush.
And, partially because of their age carrying with it a real prospect that the vice presidential nominee could become president, the choice of a vice presidential nominee could upset the applecart.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:28 am@45
Trump campaign didn’t hack private emails either. I’m assuming you mean wikileak releasing hacked DNC emails, which no one has shown that it actually hurt Hillary Clinton’s electorally. (yes, it did embarrassed DNC officials, particularly with regards to Sander’s nomination chances but by November that was old news).
I was merely pointing out the dichotomy between “money in politics” where those want to get “money out of politics”…
Yet, two billionaires essentially dumped a truckloads of money that did barely anything, other than inflating campaign official’s and media’s own pocketbooks.
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:39 am46. Dana (4fb37f) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:24 am
Anybody with Sanders’ foreign policy (although Biden isn’t so great himself) or who endorses some other things. The vice presidential choice will be very carefully examined. Whoever is nominated for vice president, it is half the weight of someone nominated for president this year.
Kamala Harris would be absolutely terrible. But it is not particular names I have in mind – just this in general. Maybe someone like Amy Klobuchar, but more honest, would be OK.
Biden will be walking a tightrope. Best would be someone who is both perceived (and correctly) as somewhat to the right of Biden and yet someone whom Bernie Sanders is happy with, perhaps because of something to do with something harmless, like health insurance.
If someone is too much on the left Biden could have a serious problem. The problem is, if it is someone Bernie is not happy with, he could have a problem in another way.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:40 am@46
I’m not Sammy.. but, the wrong VP would definitely be Warren and Sanders.
Good VPs imo, need to be a darkhorse who hasn’t been part of the democratic caucus/primary. Failing that, I’d go with:
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:46 amBooker
Yang
Harris
This really shocked me:
Colorado is a very unique state, that has a large traditional Red State-like attributes.
Yes, it’s a state dominated by liberal policies in Denver and Boulder. However, everywhere else is very much like the “fly-over Red state” mentality… and Denver in particular is getting MASSIVE influxes of migrating workers from all over the country, large huge demands for blue-collar workers.
If GOP voters are *this* motivated in a primary, I wouldn’t be surprised if Colorado is competitive for GOPers, and possibly even be a Trump win.
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:53 amLOL, Harris all but called him a racist for trying to take her school bus away.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 9:53 amWhy only count the top three?
Warren got another 130,000 Dem votes.
Current totals are:
All Dems: 746,218
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:11 amAll GOP: 614,517 (knock off Weld’s 21.5K if you only want Trump)
For the record, I did not see this coming. DRJ and several others here were closer in their analysis of Biden’s chances in the Primary.
I still think the Democrats shouldn’t nominate a senile candidate: your mileage may vary.
But, against a communist, I guess it’s the lesser evil. Sad!
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:16 amAnd where are most of the people living exactly? (Full disclosure: my main experience of Colorado is living in both Denver and Boulder recently, so I may be a bit influenced in how I view the state politically).
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:18 amDRJ
mg (8cbc69) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:21 amShe is doing as good as can be expected. Seizure free for 2 days. Full of get up and go until the meds kick in. A real Warrior. Surgery has been delayed until the 16th because of meds in her system. The people at Childrens Hospitalin Boston are so incredibly devoted in what they do for kids. We are very fortunate that Adalynn has the no1 doctor in the field of Sturge Weber Syndrome. Thanks for asking DRJ.
Biden is on a roll. Major donors, power brokers and super-delegates got the word out that Sanders was unacceptable. And Democratic voters in key states, except California, agreed.
As for Bloomberg, $600 million is a lot of money to waste to win only American Samoa, which istn’t a state but a territory. Well, he’s out now, and following Buttigieg and Klobuchar, endorsing Biden. Steyer is out too, but he hasn’t endorsed anyone. O’Rourke came out of obscurity and also endorsed Biden, but his support is insignificant; he’s just vying for attention.
And then there were three, Biden, Sanders and Warren. She will probably drop out in the coming days or weeks, and endorse Biden as well. And then there will be two.
It’s pretty obvious that in a contested convention, the leaders of the Democratic party are not going to nominate Sanders, so it’s Biden all the way. That’s why the dropouts are endorsing him. They’re angling for a vice-presidential nomination or a cabinet post. Bloomberg and especially Steyer really don’t care about any of that and probably wouldn’t accept either.
Thus, it all comes down to who Biden chooses as his running mate. Meanwhile, Republicans are speculating that Trump will dump Pence and run with Haley. I find that outcome unlikely, mainly because I don’t believe Haley would agree to it. She has her eyes on running for president in 2024, not on running for vice-president in 2020. So do several others.
What a mess. The Democrats are determined to nominate Biden, by sheer party machinations; and the Republicans are determined to nominate Trump, to the extent they won’t even allow primary challenges.
I won’t be voting for either. I’ll be voting straight Libertarian. Someone above called that “weaseling out.” It’s not. It’s a protest vote against the duopoly that cannot nominate an acceptable candidate on either side.
Eisenhower warned against this, as did Lincoln and Washington before him–hyper-partisanship, excessive debt, and interference in foreign conflicts. Yet look at us today.
I won’t be voting Democrat or Republican; both parties are equally hypocritical. We are hyper-partisan, deeply in debt, and interfering in foreign conflicts that have nothing to with the national security of the United States. Blah, blah, blah, this just sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNrqc6yvTU
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:28 ammg, I am sorry you’re going through that. I’ll keep you and your family in my prayers.
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It is interesting that Biden was never not the real front runner, but the horse race of these contests had to make things interesting with Iowa, New Hampshire, etc. It didn’t help that if you actually look at Biden you can’t really believe this guy could be president. In his weakness, there is hope.
Dustin (764e61) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:29 amThe powers that be planned this blow certainly planned this well and knee-capped Sanders right good.
And Californians might have agreed more than you think, with early voting as a factor.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:30 amIn that mish-mash of a sentence above, I meant they timed it well. A political masterstroke, even.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:30 am@55
Top 3 is:
Denver
Colorado Srings
Aurora
https://www.colorado-demographics.com/cities_by_population
Keep in mind, in 2013 there were actual successful recalls over gun policies:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us/colorado-lawmaker-concedes-defeat-in-recall-over-gun-law.html
The state is definitely a purple, trending blue state in general… but blue or red, Coloradoans are fiercely independent. Hence why a “Healthcare for All” plan failed miserably in 2016:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/14/16296132/colorado-single-payer-ballot-initiative-failure
So… I’ll stand by me original premise that Colorado will at least be competitive for GOPers this year, based on a in part of the enthusiasm of Trump primary voters.
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:49 amOnly if Biden’s campaign consists of max senility the media can’t bury.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:51 amAnd anyone have any guess as to how many Republicans voted for Biden? AIUI, all these states had open primaries. Granted some cross-over might be limited by other party candidates on the ticket. Some Republicans were claiming they would cross over to vote for Bernie, others for Biden. My SWAG, based on nothing, is the Biden cross-overs outnumbered the Bernie ones.
Also note, in regard to Trump votes vs. total Dem votes, there is some number very likely greater than zero of people who voted for a D who will vote for Trump in the general. And that includes some actual registered D’s. Doubt that number is greater than zero the other way around.
PTw (894877) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:51 amThe party powers that be made their decision to stiff Sanders in 2020– just like they did in 2016. The ‘drop pattern’ is clearly suspicious– there are no coincidences. Still, a broken clock is ‘right’ twice a day, eh, P. 😉
Plagiarist Biden’s remains a gift to the ‘right’– any truly ‘principled conservative’ must oppose him– he’s the classic ‘swamp creature’ which gave rise to Trump to begin with: their own “Bible” tells them so:
Joe Biden: 20 Things You Probably Didn’t Know
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/joe-biden-twenty-things-you-probably-didnt-know
Read ’em– and weep.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:51 am@57. I won’t be voting Democrat or Republican; both parties are equally hypocritical.
The damage they have done over the past 40 years is self-evident. Little wonder the ‘major parties’ have fewer and fewer members and represent special interest groups– and little else.
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Clyburn’s capacity to revive the dead is miraculous; he belongs in the Vatican– not Congress.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:58 am@56. You hang in there, mg. Take it one day at a time.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 10:59 am22.It is entertaining to see people argue that Biden being inarticulate and stupid is a Presidential disqualifier, given our current President.
The difference is, one was already adept at ‘entertaining’– a la Reagan- and a reality TeeVee star, while the other was a United States Senator for 30 years and two-term Vice President of the United States.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:04 amIf you’re going to have septugenerean southern black representation over there, DC, better to go with Clyburns near-twin Clarence Thomas…but then we’re not dealing with a traditional pope
urbanleftbehind (9fe194) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:06 am#64 —
Sanders has never even bothered to register as a Democrat or run as a Democrat in Vermont. So why wouldn’t the Democratic Party apparatus act to keep him from getting the nomination? Sanders is essentially attempting a hostile takeover.
The idea that the party doesn’t get to decide its nominees is one of the reasons campaign financing has gone crazy.
Appalled (1a17de) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:16 amThe difference is, one was already adept at ‘entertaining’– a la Reagan- and a reality TeeVee star, while the other was a United States Senator for 30 years and two-term Vice President of the United States.
And what did he accomplish as Senator or VP? Anything memorable? Other than as assassination insurance for the first black president? (Kind of ironic that now he might get the No. 1 slot.)
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:21 amOh, mg, I have a seizure kid, too. I am so glad they might find meds that help instead of surgery. Hang in there for her. She needs her family now.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:24 am@69. Yep. They like his vote, so they let him caucus with them but when he actually became a threat to the party establishment- and the numbers of both followers and their donations show it– they torpedoed him.
Biden is a horribly crippled candidate who has had to be helped every step of the way. People age differently, too– and Trump’s bombastic persona projects a much stronger stage presence.
He whipped impeachment; he’s going to cream Joe.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:24 amYou know I am not a doctor, mg, so this is just my experience. It takes time for their little bodies to adjust to the meds, and seizures may come back during the process. But keep at it. Encourage everyone to stay strong.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:26 amHave you considered a 100% animal product ketogenic diet? That provides all the nutriton a person needs and is probably optimal.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:27 amBloomberg did better in Colorado and Utah than in other states because of the votes that were cast before March 3. The votes for Biden picked up after South Carolina because before he was perceived by some not to have staying power. Bloomberg promised to wage strong campaign.
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:27 am@70. Again, see #64 and read for yourself in NR.
He’s a disaster.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:28 amThe thug in the Oval Office didn’t “whip” jack-spit. The Deemocrats miffed impeachment, and the GOP formed a criminal conspiracy with T-rump.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:29 am#72 —
That is the risk they take. Politicians are in the business of getting reelected, so they have a sense of the risk they are taking. Base voters aren’t as shrewd about that.
Appalled (1a17de) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:31 ammg, you gotta take it a day at a time or you’ll go nuts. I’m dealing with someone who can’t write their name any more and literally has to be reminded every 5 minutes to finish a piece of toast.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:31 am@77. A win is a win is a win.
Ask Joe.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:33 amI certainly won’t call you a nutter or anything like that.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:34 amActually, yes. We tried that over 20 years ago as part of a Johns Hopkins’ protocol. It did not work for our son because, as we later learned, his problem is a genetic immune disorder. But thanks for suggesting that. I am a believer in traditional medicine and also in thinking outside the traditional medicine box.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:41 amSorry to hear that approach didn’t work, and I hope what you’re all doing now does; it sounds like you have it more or less dialed in.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:42 amI certainly won’t call you a nutter or anything like that.
And I certainly could care less what you call me, so low is my opinion of you and your cult-leader.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:44 amBloomberg’s poor judgement is rich.
Consider the hospitals, schools and communities that could have put the half-a-billion-dollars he blew on this lark to better use.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:46 amThe NIH rare disease program treats our family because of our genetic issues. The NIH names you see in the coronavirus news? Some of them are our doctors.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:46 am@84. Cult-leader?
How’s that ‘Reagan Dime’ coming along?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:47 amBloomberg’s poor judgement is rich.
Consider the hospitals, schools and communities that could have put the half-a-billion-dollars he blew on this lark to better use.
I heard on the radio this morning that he spent $ 3/4 billion before he dropped out.
Heck, for 1% of that I would have endorsed him.
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:50 am@88. Meh. When the final total comes out that’ll likely be closer to it.
So does dropping out mean he won’t be releasing his tax returns after all? 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:53 amI think mg’s grandbaby also has a rare genetic issue. Rare diseases can be a tough road, not only because it is hard to get a diagnosis but especially finding qualified, knowledgeable doctors. If you don’t already know about this website and program, mg, look at it when you can. And always look at PubMed.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:54 amBloomberg’s poor judgement is rich.
Consider the hospitals, schools and communities that could have put the half-a-billion-dollars he blew on this lark to better use.
Those same dollars will come around to those…and countless other…uses over time. Lots of “working people” are directly better off today for the money spent.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:54 am@82. Wholly sympathize w/you DRJ.
A trip to the grocery store can be a visit back to the real world.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:59 amThen why not just go around breaking windows, Ragspierre? This is a discredited way to look at the economy. It matters how things used and buying a bunch of loser-ads is not productive in the same way that investing 3/4 of a billion dollars in manufacture, to name one, is.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 11:59 amBloomberg could have bought 2 super yachts (built in Holland) like Jerry Jones, or he could have spent his money running for President in America. I think Americans could use the money.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:00 pm@91. Lots of “working people” are directly better off today for the money spent.
LOL– like television stations and advertising sales people.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:00 pmWheelchair Mike: he’s gonna throw his billions behind Biden to give a crippled candidate his ride.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:03 pmAmerica is primarily a services economy now, not as much manufacturing:
That was written in 2008. It is even more true today. Change is hard but change we must.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:05 pmThere’s useful services and useless services. Bloomberg’s ads amounted to a hill of beans.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:07 pm@93
Our very own host wrote about this “broken window” theory:
https://patterico.com/2014/06/09/why-would-we-think-increased-government-spending-is-a-good-thing-to-pursue-why-paul-krugmans-love-of-gdp-is-wrong-part-one/
https://patterico.com/2014/06/10/consumer-spending-is-not-the-most-important-part-of-the-economy-why-paul-krugmans-love-of-gdp-is-wrong-part-two/
https://patterico.com/2014/06/11/economics-is-about-improving-peoples-lives-not-creating-busywork-why-paul-krugmans-love-of-gdp-is-wrong-part-three/
Great posts… 😉
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:08 pmMy state will vote last. I plan on “a really futile and stupid gesture” of protest against Trump. I may write in our host’s name. He’d do a better job.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:08 pmAnd a great comment and find, my dear whembly.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:08 pmThen why not just go around breaking windows, Ragspierre? This is a discredited way to look at the economy.
You aren’t bright enough to understand the broken window fallacy, or the first stinking thing about economics.
But I imagine you think golden sh!tters are a total waste, too? Unless T-rump..
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:10 pmBloomberg could have bought 2 super yachts
He could have paid Bernie to leave the country.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:10 pmYou have a way of taking what I presume is a law degree and practice in Texas, and making yourself looking like a foul-mouthed middle schooler.
But you’re good at it.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:11 pm‘Beating Donald Trump’ is not a strategy for victory in November, 2020 any more than ‘beating Ronald Reagan’ was in November, 1985.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:12 pmNot a very promising one, anyhow.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:14 pmServices vs manufacturing as a function of GDP in 2017:
Some think authoritarians, not the market, should decide what things are economically valuable. Some things are not desirable, and we typically call them illegal. But otherwise deciding what people should and should not want is not smart. Some people would decide that ordering groceries or products online is not American, and we should all go shop locally. Some used to think Walmart and now Amazon should not be allowed.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:14 pmLots of “working people” are directly better off today for the money spent.
LOL– like television stations and advertising sales people.
Wul, yah. I thought you harbored the conceit that you knew some damn thing about Hollywood. I doubt you could even name all the trades, crafts, and skills required to make a campaign spot.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:14 pmThose same dollars will come around to those…and countless other…uses over time.
Yes, but they could have been spent in a way that were, in themselves, useful. He could have, for example, paid for skiing weekends for 500,000 people.
If all you care about is that the money enters the economy, then it doesn’t matter if he just leaves it in the bank, or dumps it out his penthouse window. But he gets ONE choice on how it is initially spent, and he used it to annoy people.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:14 pmBut you’re good at it.
And you’ve nuthing…nuthing…!!!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:15 pmQuite.
Now, he had every right to run for President and certainly the ads were the best part of his abysmal campaign, since the candidate himself turned out to suck (as a national politician: I’m sure he’s an accomplished person).
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:17 pmBut he gets ONE choice on how it is initially spent, and he used it to annoy people.
1. it’s his money that he actually earned, and
2. drop him a line; he’d be glad to know he annoyed you.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:19 pmA golden toilet it not the best use of money ever, but the gold is there still as an asset. It beats bullion, insofar as it it did employee an artist, a plumber, and some very strong backs. Plus it serves, over and over and over again.
In the meantime, Trump created one Hell of a lot of jobs as a developer, and now as a President. So I don’t think this example is really going to go the way you thought it would, Ragspierre.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:21 pm*employ
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:22 pmThe Democrats did this time what the Republicans did not in 2016. If it had become a Trump-Cruz race in March of 2016, instead of those two plus a couple narcissists, things might be very different.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:24 pmI don’t think this example is really going to go the way you thought it would, Ragspierre.
The predicate (you thinking) of that statement is stupidly false.
But your conclusion is equally false. You reinforced and proved my point.
Thanks.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:24 pmThe CDC has reallybotched the coronavirus testing process. Blame Obama, blame Trump, but I blame monopolies especially government monopolies. They can be more efficient and save money, but they don’t always work and are inflexible in a crisis.
Letting competition exist means sometimes people will spend their money in ways we think are unwise. To some, the operative word is “unwise” but, to me, the operative words are “their money.”
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:26 pmTrump’s the guy in charge now. It’s his responsibility to get on it.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:27 pm@108. I doubt you could even name all the trades, crafts, and skills required to make a campaign spot.
Ignorance is bliss; stay happy!!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:27 pmHowever, I’m one of the biggest critics of the CDC you will ever meet. I don’t expect much from them.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:27 pmIn the meantime, Trump created one Hell of a lot of jobs as a developer, and now as a President.
Another farcical lie displaying thumping economic ignorance or complete contempt for others here.
Which is it?
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:29 pm@115. The difference between the two runs is intriguing. Go back and review how many GOP ‘establishment’ entities raced to support Trump– very, very few, yet he won and afterwards, they fell in line. While Biden is so weak, virtually every Democratic ‘establishment’ entity is now trying to prop him up and get him to simply hobble the nomination.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:32 pmThe NIH is run very similar to the CDC, and it has to be that way because it is public money and they have to be accountable. Some of my family members are alive solely because of the NIH, after many very good and well-known medical centers were unable to help us. But we usually wait 5-10 years between NIH appointments and a year or more to get blood test results. There is a role for t
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:34 pmgovernment institutions. We are alive because of them but if that is all we had, we would have died long ago.
Trump wasn’t their choice but go back and review how many GOP ‘establishment’ entities raced to support Cruz. Even less. When forced, they picked Trump over Cruz, just like you did.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:36 pm21 Luxuries You Could Buy With A Billion Dollars – BuzzFeed
https://www.buzzfeed.com/quickenloans/21-luxuries-you-could-buy-with-a-billion-dollars
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:44 pm@124. My choice was completely strategic as you well know; Trump fit the pistol, Cruz most decidedly did not.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:46 pmInteresting that Trump keeps harping on how the Dem Establishment is screwing over Sanders.
This could just be Trump being Trump, who enjoys trolling for its own sake.
Or perhaps he is trying to goad Sanders into an independent (Socialist?) run. Which, of course, would split the left-wing vote and almost guarantee him the election.
(Alternative similar strategy: encourage Sanders’ supporters to stay home in disgust. Which would have the same effect, to a lesser extent.)
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:47 pminsert “why not both” gif.
Bored Lawyer, you nailed on all the strategic points as to why Trump is trollishly stirring the pot here.
But, man… hubris bit the Democrat’s ass in 2016 and all of this seems to be tempting fate…
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:52 pmJust stop and think about it– literally just a week ago Amy, Pete and Mike were wholly opposed to Biden, encouraging their supporters, soliciting financial donors and campaigning for votes– actively efforting to knock him out. Now he’s suddenly the best guy to ‘beat Trump’ and the greatest thing since sliced bread?? The party establishment- ‘superdelegates’ etc.,- have done in 2020 what they did in 2016.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:57 pm@127. They are.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:58 pminsert “why not both” gif.
Is there a way to insert gifs and other images on this site?
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:59 pmNo… I don’t believe that’s available in wordpress’ comment function.
whembly (51f28e) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:02 pmThough I can’t find anything official, Warren reportedly is sending out signals…..
https://twitter.com/Rob_Wolcott/status/1235299817338949632?s=20
harkin (b64479) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:03 pm_
Remmber another fella who was counted out for dead, revived and got his party’s nom?
McCain lost.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:05 pmYou can get a plugin (sucn as Comment Image) for that, but I doubt it will be Pat’s top priority, what with the trolls such as Ragspierre. Considering his language, who knows what sort of images he’d embed?
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:07 pmYou are the troll, T-rump cultist. You come here to deliberately provoke, and you do it solely for your cult.
My language…!?!?! I bet you extend your pinkie when you sip tea, and dab your delicate lips with a lace doylie.
Too funny…!!!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:13 pmBored Lawyer (998177) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:59 pm
I used to upload them to TINYPIC anonymously, and then put the link here, but I found out this week that TINYPIC had ceased operations on September 16, 2019.
If you put an image anywhere that is accessible with a URL, you can link to it.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:25 pmDCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 12:57 pm
I don’t think they’re saying that, but they may by the time of the convention.
All they are saying is that they don’t have a chance and Biden is the best remaining alternative.
They’re not letting the candidate be picked at the convention.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:28 pm@138. Listen closer- yes, they are.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:32 pmYou’re hallucinating.
Again…
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:33 pmWith a rhinestone monacle.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:37 pmThanks DRJ.
mg (8cbc69) — 3/4/2020 @ 1:54 pmMy daughter is continuously searching for information having to do with Sturge Weber. She is a Warrior Mom. Even though I am worried about her state of mind. My wife is working with the administrators on that site you highlighted in doing a fund raiser this summer on the Cape. Indeed DCSCA one day at a time.
Dow posts second highest point climb after Biden wins!
(And of course ascribing one thing to the other would be as silly as…well, doing the inverse on news that Sanders had done well. Or a POTUS ‘creates jobs’!)
Hilarious!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 2:02 pmThe Dow rise makes sense. It means best case, Trump. Worst case, not a Communist.
So, yeah, that’s an improvement on the state of affairs since this time yesterday.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 2:14 pmYou are just silly. That’s all. Silly.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 2:16 pmRight, because the stock market doesn’t respond to political developments. Thank you, Admiral Genius.
Make America Ordered Again (eca5f8) — 3/4/2020 @ 2:30 pmYou are welcome, General Strawman!
Remember; don’t get stuck on stupid!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 2:42 pmNever forget, he may have been Obama’s VP and claim to be a son of Scranton, Pennsylvania and friend of the middle class common man, but, “folks, here’ the deal’: what he was was a U.S. Senator from Delaware:
Delaware’s state’s largest employers are:
-government (State of Delaware, New Castle County)
-education (University of Delaware, Delaware Technical & Community College)
-banking (Bank of America, M&T Bank, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank)
-chemical, pharmaceutical, technology (DuPont de Nemours Inc., AstraZeneca, Syngenta, Agilent Technologies)
-healthcare (Christiana Care Health System, Bayhealth Medical Center, Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children)
-farming, specifically chicken farming in Sussex County (Perdue Farms, Mountaire Farms, Allen Family Foods)
-retail (Walmart, Walgreens, Acme Markets)
Delaware’s Industrial decline:
Since the mid-2000s, Delaware has seen the departure of the state’s automotive manufacturing industry (General Motors Wilmington Assembly and Chrysler Newark Assembly), the corporate buyout of a major bank holding company (MBNA), the departure of the state’s steel industry (Evraz Claymont Steel), the bankruptcy of a fiber mill (National Vulcanized Fibre), and the diminishing presence of AstraZeneca in Wilmington.
In late 2015, DuPont announced that 1,700 employees, nearly a third of its footprint in Delaware, would be laid off in early 2016.[64] The merger of E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Co. and Dow Chemical Company into DowDuPont took place on September 1, 2017.
More than half of all U.S. publicly traded companies, and 63% of the Fortune 500, are incorporated in Delaware. The state’s attractiveness as a corporate haven is largely because of its business-friendly corporation law. [Thank you,JoeyBee!]F ranchise taxes on Delaware corporations supply about a fifth of the state’s revenue.[ Although “USA (Delaware)” ranked as the world’s most opaque jurisdiction on the Tax Justice Network’s 2009 Financial Secrecy Index, the same group’s 2011 Index ranks the U.S. fifth and does not specify Delaware. In Delaware, there are more than a million registered corporations, meaning there are more corporations than people. – source, wikistatetruth
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 3:30 pmEver notice how all those people who bitch that Wyoming and South Dakota have as many Senators as California or New York never seem to complain that Delaware and Vermont have as many Senators as Texas or Florida?
Remind me please which states the top two Democrat candidates come from and in what legislative body they served.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/4/2020 @ 3:35 pmYOU PLAGIARIZED THAT YOU DIRTY PLAGIARIZING PLAGIARIST WHO PLAGIARIZES
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 3:55 pmI took DCSCA’s 3:30 pm comment as a quote from some source based on the wording and content, as did you since you looked it up. However, yes, it should have been put it in a blockquote (using the “quote” button on the comment form) and/or in quotation “” marks and/or started it with angle brackets >>>. I hope DCSCA does next time to keep it clear.
Make America Ordered Again (6a3f87) — 3/4/2020 @ 4:00 pmCBS News has these delegate totals tonight: (I think some may be lost by candidates dropping out of the race, even though all these campaigns have only been “suspended”)
Biden: 525
Sanders: 455
Bloomberg: 36
Warren: 35
Buttigieg: 26
Klobuchar: 7
Gabbard: 1
That works out to 1085 selected, of which Biden has 48.4% and Sanders has 41.9%
Sammy Finkelman (ec94de) — 3/4/2020 @ 4:15 pmBless her Warrior Mom heart, mg. It is hard but it also helps her stay sane.
DRJ (15874d) — 3/4/2020 @ 4:28 pmPlagiarism is a mortal sin of such singular wickedness and depravity that there can be no forgiveness or second chances.
Its perpetrators a marked for life, like Cain. Only worse.
Dave (b1bec7) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:03 pm@150. Wrong- it is tagged as – source, wikistatetruth.
Do read completely.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:05 pm@154. See 155.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:06 pmIts perpetrators a marked for life, like Cain. Only worse.
Burn him…!!! Burn him with high hotness…!!!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:07 pm@151. Just because Trump doesn’t read doesn’t mean you should follow his example.
It’s tagged: – source, wikistatetruth.
BTW, ‘STOP’ signs mean come to a complete STOP, too. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:09 pmAbsolutely you’re right, DCSCA. You gave credit to the source for the material. We owe you an apology (although I was convinced from the beginning there was no attempt at plagiarism at your part, I did not read completely and thought you may have inadvertently forgotten to cite your source or indicate that it is a quote). Consider mine given.
Make America Ordered Again (6a3f87) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:12 pmI drove through a red light tonight (on account of NYPD behind me flashing their lights and sounding their siren to get through the intersection for an emergency).
So sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Make America Ordered Again (6a3f87) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:22 pmExcept:
1) There is no such source; citing a fictitious sources to cover their tracks is a well-known tactic of dirty plagiarizing plagiarists!
2) He quoted six paragraphs verbatim, without quotation marks or indentation
3) He cited his fictional source only the last paragraph, which was not cited as a verbatim quotation
Verdict: GUILTY OF PLAGIARISM
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:39 pmOh come on. I’m disappointed in you, Dave. I thought you’d have more integrity than this!
Everyone here knows: “source: Wiki” refers to Wikipedia. He added a stylistic flair and semi-put-down of Wikipedia as a source, sort of a caveat emptor, a “Take it for what you will,” and you’re trying to pretend he was being dishonest rather than that you (and I) made a mistake.
Bad form, sir!
Make America Ordered Again (6a3f87) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:42 pm*Woosh*
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:44 pmBe careful, MAOA…defend a dirty plagiarizing plagiarist like DCSCA today, and you may find yourself voting for one next!
Dave (1bb933) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:46 pm@161.Poor Dave. Do hope you read a physics equation better.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/4/2020 @ 5:47 pmYOU PLAGIARIZED THAT YOU DIRTY PLAGIARIZING PLAGIARIST WHO PLAGIARIZES
In a copyright case, I would say the doctrine of merger protects him. One can argue whether that applies to a charge of plagiarism. 😉
Bored Lawyer (56c962) — 3/5/2020 @ 5:53 am