Buttigieg Out
Buh-bye, Mayor Alfred E. We hardly knew ye.
Pete Buttigieg, the former small-city Indiana mayor and first openly gay major presidential candidate, has decided to quit the Democratic race, a person briefed on Mr. Buttigieg’s plans said on Sunday, following a crushing loss in the South Carolina primary where his poor performance with black Democrats signaled an inability to build a broad coalition of voters.
Mr. Buttigieg, 38, narrowly won the Iowa caucuses early last month and came in a strong second place in the New Hampshire primary, exciting liberal white Democrats with his cool, hyper-articulate manner. But he never broadened his breadth of support in a party with a nonwhite base, and one that has veered leftward since 2018.
OK Amy. OK Mini Mike. You guys are next. Get out.
Get out!
Princess Running Bare is saying she in it for the floor fight!
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/1/2020 @ 3:38 pmI’d rather have it go down to Sanders, Bloomberg and Biden. It’s a little oddball to say that Biden is too old when he’s competing against a couple of 78-year olds, but I think he’s aged worse than Sanders and Bloomberg. I saw Bloomberg at a CNN townhall and he was smart and practical. Biden’s speech is getting a little slurry.
Paul Montagu (ae8832) — 3/1/2020 @ 3:38 pmI thank Mr. Peter Paul Montgomerry Buttigieg (yeah, that’s his full name) for his invaluable contribution in reaffirming my faith in the American electorate, a faith badly shaken by the events of 2016, and I mean that with all sincerity.
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 3:45 pmNow I guess I’ll wont be able to play the “find the straight Buttgieg supporter challenge”.
urbanleftbehind (e4a5bc) — 3/1/2020 @ 3:51 pmBut he never broadened his breadth of support in a party with a nonwhite base, and one that has veered leftward since 2018.
It’s all those Commies’ of color fault, urbanleftbehind.
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:00 pmNot sure where this came from but I would have thought her Indian name was Walking Eagle.
Dave (b1bec7) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:01 pmWTF. Why drop w/48 hours ’til ‘Super Tuesday.’?? Every delegate adds leverage for bargaining.
Still, one plagiarist out; one plagiarist to go. On deck: JoeyBee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:04 pmBiden’s speech is getting a little slurry.
And incoherent. He’s an idiot. Per Fox News’ interview w/Wallace just 12 hours after his first presidential primary win after three presidential runs over nearly 40 years:
“Thanks a lot, Chuck.” – Biden
“It’s actually Chris.” – Wallace.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:12 pmDave (b1bec7)
Back in her senate race days there was this great video of her running up an escalator, fleeing from a reporter asking about her Indian claims.
She’s been Princess Running Bare to me ever since.
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:14 pmMike is going to buy the nomination at a brokered convention. Any delegate that sees the light that only Mike can beat Trump will be in line to chair his/her own PAC with $3 million in the till.
Frank (90a91c) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:14 pmWhereas your guy Trump thinks that Putin and Kim are swell guys, Kansas City is in Kansas, and photo ID is required to buy groceries…
Dave (b1bec7) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:24 pm@10. How many presidential primaries did Trump win on his first time running for the gig? And how many did Plagiarist JoeyBee win after three presidential runs over nearly 40 years???
Thanks for playing. Neutering the modern ideological conservative movement is a source of endless joy. Welcome to 1964, Dave.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:28 pmYou’re hoping Mini Mike is among those who leave the race next? Not a chance. Bloomberg’s money will see him through Super Tuesday at least.
Gryph (08c844) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:30 pmSam Stein
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Joe Biden can now run as the youngest male candidate left in the field.
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Youngest male candidate with the onslaught of dementia.
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At least he hasn’t had a heart attack in the last 6 months
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However, the youngest man left in either field is Donald Trump.
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And now, relive the greatest moment of Pete Buttigieg’s campaign.
https://twitter.com/sluggahjells/status/1234258361262202882?s=20
harkin (b64479) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:35 pm_
Dave,
Y’know, nobody has ever proved Democratic socialism won’t work, because it’s never been tried in these here United States. Let’s vote for bernie and really show em. Teach that DCSCA chap a lesson.
Welcome to 1917, DCSCA. You know, that time when the Kerensky and them had control…Or is it welcome to 1945, when Atlee gifted the UK with another 6-7 years of rationing.
Appalled (1a17de) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:37 pmWord is Mayor Pete will suspend but not endorse.
Yet in a way, he already has:
https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/pete-buttigieg-praised-bernie-sanders-essay/
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:41 pm@14. You’d get an argument from rabid supports of FDR on that one– like Ronald Reagan, who voted for him four times.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:44 pm@12. No kidding.
If you’re in for half a billion dollars already w/o flinching or giving up filet mignon every other Tuesday, what another quarter billion or two. He ain’t leaving ’til he does everything possible to stop Sanders from getting the nomination.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:49 pmI can tell you why PPNB dropped out before Super Tuesday. Because this way, his 8% support can be swept under the rug. They, and you know who “they” are, can blame black people for South Carolina, brag about Iowa, and spin New Hampshire and Nevada.
But with 8% nationwide (and that’s among Democrats only), the cat would be out of the bag: “They are not all that many, and they are not all that strong.” They can put together a big enough plurality in a small election with a crowded field, like Pete did in Iowa and previously South Bend (10,000 votes out of 70,000 registered voters) and our current mayor did in Chicago’s jungle primary with 98,000 votes and Rahm Emmanuel’s machine, but natioanally they are still p-value ≤ 0.05.
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 4:58 pmPPMB (Peter Paul Montgomerry Buttigieg)
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:00 pm@18. This sort screws over people who have already voted for Pete or Steyer in any of these primaries- who might have voted for their second choices instead. Not exactly an endorsement for the practice of ‘early voting.’ But then, politicians enjoy screwing over the People, don’t they.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:05 pmBunch of tribes, I tell ya…
urbanleftbehind (e4a5bc) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:06 pmhttp://s3.amazonaws.com/chicago-election-2019/index.html#9/41.7345/-87.7969
@18. Maybe somebody had some dirt on him to pressure him out– like film of him kissing a guy…
Oh. Wait.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:12 pmHes going deep cover, trying to find both Cohn-Trump super-8 and Graham-Trump Tik-Tok.
urbanleftbehind (e4a5bc) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:15 pmAmy will be gone by Wednesday. Mr $60 billion will leave when he’s good and ready.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:22 pmphoto ID is required to buy groceries
Only by check, which was what Biden used last time he did it.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:24 pmBut Pete and Steyer weren’t going to win much of anything anyway.
Anyway, the real lesson is how dumb it is to have little states lead our primary process. It’s the only reason Bernie has ‘momentum’ when Biden has won most of the votes nationwide so far.
Dustin (33f5ee) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:25 pmYou’d get an argument from rabid supports of FDR on that one– like Ronald Reagan, who voted for him four times.
Yeah, like he never ever talked about that or why he’d changed his mind. Hillary WORKED for Goldwater.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:26 pmThis sort screws over people who have already voted for Pete or Steyer in any of these primaries
You think that maybe long early voting periods are a mistake?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:28 pm@27. Hillary WORKED for Goldwater
And the Angry Rabid Right still hates her anyway. LOL
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:29 pmMaking Biden the nominee will be a gift with a bow on it for Trump. We will watch him further deteriorate in front of our eyes while the libs meltdown and the Trump fans rub their hands together with glee and amazement at their good fortune. Train wreck in slow motion. Oh well I guess Charlie Sykes is happy.
JRH (52aed3) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:30 pmAnd the Angry Rabid Right still hates her anyway
That’s the “vast right-wing conspiracy” to you, bub.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:31 pmI’m beginning to think the Democrat Party, or at least it’s non-white, non-yuppie and/or working-class folks are not all that accepting of homosexuality. Maybe they can make up for it with a Trans VP candidate.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:33 pm*its. Stupid fingers.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:33 pm@28. It sure seems to be a negative factor. People do it more out of convenience than conviction. Look and listen to Brain-Salad-Surgery-Biden plagiarize a tale and he could drop dead any day… Bernie’s ticker ain’t hear-warming, either.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:34 pm@24. Amy’s been gone for days– nobody has told her yet. Even the media doesn’t bring her up anymore.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:36 pm@31.LOL
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:37 pmWTF. Why drop w/48 hours ’til ‘Super Tuesday.’??
I’m sure that money had something to do with it too. Perhaps March 1 is the date where all of this monthly employees would have been guaranteed their retainer, or perhaps those who are paid by the week needed to be laid off before Monday morning comes. I had heard that he had not been too frugal in saving for the long haul.
Look at it this way too: by dropping out now he doesn’t engender much enmity with Sanders, Bloomie, or Biden by dragging out his campaign. And seeing as how he’s probably a long shot to win statewide elective office in Indiana, he really needs a Democrat President to hook him up with a cabinet, or at least a director, position.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:39 pm@37. He certainly had some well heeled, wine cellared donors. It just seems a total screw job to early voters in the 14 primaries to cut and run 48 hours before the big day. And the irony is, locally, Mayor Pete TV spots were just beginning to air.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:44 pmAny bets that Bloomberg averages ≤ 3% on Tuesday?
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:52 pmIf he’d dropped a month ago, he could have filed for the Indiana governor’s race with a weak incumbent.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 5:59 pmAny bets that Bloomberg averages ≤ 3% on Tuesday?
I doubt it. Lots of open primaries where NPP can vote.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:00 pmDoes Pete dropping suggest that #NeverBernie is breaking for Biden, and that Pete wants out before the drubbing. After all, age is going to narrow the field drastically for 2024 and 2028.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:02 pmCapitalist Bloomie’s gonna run interference to block and tackle Socialist Bernie from getting the nointion all the way. He all but tipped his hand on that in his first debate… and got booed.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:11 pmSorry for repeating myself, I really meant to post this here:
I think that, like PPMB, Bernie is a specialized fetish. He has an enthusiastic but finite following that he will not increase and others will not succeed in decreasing, and that includes anything that Bloomberg might try. The only solution is what Patterico said: For everybody except Biden to get out and stop diluting the field, so that Bernie does not get a plurality.
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:30 pmJosh Hammer
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Pete Buttigieg was, perhaps aside from Eric Swalwell, the single most insufferable member of the 2020 Democratic field. His smugness knew no bounds, his warping of Christian doctrine to suit his worldview was grotesque, and his incessant jihad against Mike Pence was simply gross.
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Buttigieg was Dr. Jekyll and Mayor Hyde. As a stand alone candidate he was constantly condescending to conservatives on the stump. Yet in debate settings he acted like he was the unifying moderate choice. Calculating and disingenuous, the worst traits a politician can show.
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IMO, Pete’s life/career has been groomed (just like Obama suddenly “emerged” in 2004), likely by the same handlers. He wasn’t supposed to debut until 2024 (Hillary wasn’t supposed to lose). He/Obama have similar personalities. MSM never vetted either, bc they’re complicit…
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Social Justice monster destroying @PeteButtigieg from the inside. I had invited him on the show to discuss just this months ago and he was scared off by VoxHuffPoMediaMatters. Oh well…
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WTF. Why drop w/48 hours ’til ‘Super Tuesday.’??
Biden needs to stomp Bernie on Tuesday, and maybe he made Pete an offer he’d be stupid to refuse. After all, Pete’s a young man and Joe isn’t.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:40 pmBiden needs to stomp Bernie on Tuesday…
He needs to just wake up on Tuesday.
The twit has won just one presidential primary in three runs over nearly 40 years.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:49 pmThe only solution is what Patterico said: For everybody except Biden to get out and stop diluting the field, so that Bernie does not get a plurality.
JVW’s suggestion was wiser- Biden should get out a make room for a younger moderate. The dude makes a cadaver look likd an Olympian. And besides, he’s a plagiarist: a thief.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 6:52 pm@31. That’s the “vast right-wing conspiracy” to you, bub.
My mother was a ‘Goldwater Girl.’ Worked the campaign; never let her forget i– and it likely seeded her dementia, too. 😉
True story- at some event she’d been given a can of Goldwater Ginger Ale– typical campaign kitch– which post-election was kept on a shelf in the living room. One hot summer day, not knowing any better and wanting a cold soda, I used a church key to open it on the bottom, poured it over a glass filled with ice and drank the near flat stuff down. Then replaced the can on the shelf figuring no one would be the wiser. Some months later I caught hell when she discovered it had been opened.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 7:00 pmJVW’s suggestion was wiser- Biden should get out a make room for a younger moderate.
That means Tulsi or Amy, DCSCA, and I’m pretty sure that JVW does not have Amy in mind. 😉
nk (1d9030) — 3/1/2020 @ 7:06 pmJosh Hammer
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Pete Buttigieg was, perhaps aside from Eric Swalwell, the single most insufferable member of the 2020 Democratic field. His smugness knew no bounds, his warping of Christian doctrine to suit his worldview was grotesque, and his incessant jihad against Mike Pence was simply gross.
I don’t know Josh Hammer, but he has to be kidding himself. Buttigieg wasn’t even in the Top Five in terms of insufferableness. Think of Robbie O’Rourke, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Jay Inslee, Eric Swalwell, etc. Hell, Mayor Petey was probably among the most tolerable of the Democrats in the race, which says a great deal for how awful this crew truly is.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/1/2020 @ 7:58 pmLOL, “moderate”.
Little Aloha Socialist nominated Comrade Senator in 2016…
Dave (1bb933) — 3/1/2020 @ 8:00 pmWell, does anybody have John Delaney’s cell #? He is a moderate, bald legislator from a mid-Atlantic state and seemed like the least deranged of the many contestants. Of course I would prefer Tulsi coming to the rescue (in a wetsuit maybe in slow motion).
urbanleftbehind (038ab2) — 3/1/2020 @ 8:08 pmHe officially dropped out right before Iowa.
I agree though, he seemed generally sane in the first two debates when he got a few minutes to speak.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/1/2020 @ 8:59 pmSeen half-a-dozen Mayor Pete TV commercials tonight.
And he has quit.
Hilarious.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/1/2020 @ 10:22 pmIf Biden wins the nomination, I expect Mayor Pete to get the VP nod. He really did Joe a mitzvah today.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/1/2020 @ 10:38 pm@56 I can’t see how it would help beat the Orange. Buttigieg is radioactive with large segments of the electorate, and the parts he appeals to aren’t in any danger of straying off the Dem reservation.
Picking a white male running mate is *not* gonna go over well.
Dave (1bb933) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:05 amSeen half-a-dozen Mayor Pete TV commercials tonight.
And he has quit.
Yeah. Some Steyer commercials are still playing this weekend too.
I think it’s a near certainty that there will be a woman on the Dem ticket, unless weird old Senator Stalin gets the nomination because he is such a nutbag he probably thinks he can nominate Dick Van Dyke or Danny Devito as his running mate and still win. But I think that with Intersectionality Bingo and Junior Varsity Hillary flaming out early and with Dishwater Dull Amy, Chief Bunkum, and Little Aloha Sweetie about to pack it in the Democrats will feel the need to rally women voters.
JVW (54fd0b) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:23 am@58.I think it’s a near certainty that there will be a woman on the Dem ticket…
Agree.
Harris’ name keeps popping up in talking head chatter. Warren might take the gig– unless it’s Sanders. Two New Englanders on one ticket won’t fly. Her collapse since summer is a poly-sci research project in the making.
Expect Plagiarist JoeyBee to be wiped out on Tuesday and out by Easter then try to play kingmaker w/a few delegates and his singular firewall win.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/2/2020 @ 1:11 amStacey Abrams seems like a more likely VP pick
AJ_Liberty (165d19) — 3/2/2020 @ 5:25 amShe seems like two VP picks to me.
nk (1d9030) — 3/2/2020 @ 5:34 amVal Demings D-FL might scratch that itch also. It would be a Sistah Soulja move in that you would be bringing a former police chief with cop husband, particularly since one of Trumps more Bulworthy moves is “criminal justice (actually Sentencing) reform”, something a lot of core conservatives are not on board with. Also has the intraparty cred of being on the impeachment team.. And is probably not as oft putting as Abrams.
urbanleftbehind (038ab2) — 3/2/2020 @ 5:54 amHELP WANTED
nk (1d9030) — 3/2/2020 @ 6:06 amDemocratic Vice-Presidential Candidate
Must have attained the age of 35 years, be a natural born citizen of the United States, not a resident of the same state as the Presidential candidate, and not scare white people.
The Kristolites and never trumpers are rallying around Joe Biden. The “Conservative” choice in this election. Other than the fact that Joe Biden doesn’t support one so-called Conservative Principle, this makes perfect sense.
I see Mona Charon was taking the new never-trumper track of “We need to talk about the important issues like Government spending and the Debt” Yeah, ’cause nobody is more fiscally responsible than $500 billion for Climate Change Joe Biden. but don’t forget that Hillary is still in the wings, she’s another fiscal “Conservative”. LOL
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 9:48 amThe reason to drop out now is that it disproportionately benefits the non-Bernie candidates. With Buttigieg in the race, there are states where Bernie is the only candidate likely to exceed the 15% threshold required to accrue delegates. By dropping out, Buttigieg lifts some non-Bernies over the threshold. That not only raises their delegate count, but deprives Bernie of the unallocated delegates he would have been awarded from candidates who didn’t exceed 15%.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 3/2/2020 @ 9:49 amThat Joe Biden, who got a 100% rating from the liberal ADA, and didn’t disgree with one crazy left-wing position during the debates (except a few grumbles about how we going pay for medicare for all)m is now “The moderate” – just shows how far left the D’s have gotten.
Of course, the reasonable conservative have also moved Left, since their whole shtick is to be slightly to the right of the liberal/left. So, if the NYT’s now wants free medicare for all, the “Reasonable Conservatives” are now in favor some version of Romneycare. If Joe Biden wants to spend $500 Billion on climate change, the never-trumpers now consider that “Moderate”! In fact, “Severely Conservative” Mittens already has an “action plan” for climate change.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 9:54 amThe whole point is to reduce the race to Bloomberg, Biden, and Bernie. That way Bernie can’t win. Even if he gets the most delegates, it will only amount to 35-40% and the other two can combine to stop him from getting the nomination.
If Biden comes out of March will the most delegates, the D Establishment and Bloomberg will throw their support to him. And bernie is done. If Bernie has the most, the fight will go on.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 9:57 amrocean,
As a Trump supporter you have no standing to complain about spending. Nobody spends more profligately than a Trump Republican. The only difference between today’s Democrats and today’s Republicans is the Dems are tax and spend, the Repubs borrow and spend.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 3/2/2020 @ 10:01 amPicking a white male running mate is *not* gonna go over well.
White, male, heterosexual. Pick any two.
If Biden gets the nomination, he needs to get support from his Left and Far Left wing. Pete repels blacks, but Biden has those covered. Anyone else who won’t vote for a gay man on the ticket (as VP) is probably voting for Trump anyway.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/2/2020 @ 10:33 amBernie can’t win without the center (and he can’t get the center if there is ANY honesty in reporting any more). Biden can’t win without the Left, and he’s a New Dealer (and never mind the NiRA).
Trump, on the other hand, has a LARGE core of support. He’d be facing half the Democrats with 3/4ths of the GOP. Gotta like those odds.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 3/2/2020 @ 10:37 amThe Kristolites and never trumpers are rallying around Joe Biden. The “Conservative” choice in this election. Other than the fact that Joe Biden doesn’t support one so-called Conservative Principle, this makes perfect sense.
I see Mona Charon was taking the new never-trumper track of “We need to talk about the important issues like Government spending and the Debt”
When all you can publish are glaring falsehoods, why are you even here?
Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 3/2/2020 @ 10:50 amKlobuchar…OUT and endorsing Biden
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 3/2/2020 @ 10:56 amPete and Amy are showing that the democrats have an organizational strength the GOP lacks.
In a way, I was wondering if Sanders would have the disruptive impact on Team D that Trump’s corruption has had on Team R. We won’t find out because Sanders will not be the nominee.
Dustin (764e61) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:05 am“ Sen. Amy Klobuchar canceled a rally in her home state Sunday night as several dozen protesters chanted “Black Lives Matter,” “Klobuchar has got to go” and “Free Myon” — referencing the case of a black teenager convicted of murder after a flawed police investigation.
According to videos that emerged on social media, the senator’s rally was set in St. Louis Park, Minn., at a local high school. WCCO-CBS Minnesota reported that the protesters made their way into the rally and onstage, where they continued chanting. After a 40-minute delay, the rally was canceled.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/01/amy-klobuchar-rally-canceled-protests-118571
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harkin (b64479) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:09 am_
Breaking -CNN reports Amy Klobuchar to end her campaign Monday night and will endorse Plagiarist JoeyBee.
Old midwestern adage, Amy dear: winners never quit; quitters never win.
Pass the green bean salad.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:29 amThe old adage is silly. One should never quit at striving in life, but strategic quitting to refoucus one’s efforts on areas where one can win or coming back and winning next time is great.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:33 amComfortably Smug
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You think it’s fun now wait until Bernie’s supporters storm the convention in Milwaukee
harkin (b64479) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:42 am_
72. Klobuchar out?
I heard someone on the radio say earlier today that he thought Biden wanted her to stay in, and they only wanted Pete Buttigieg to drop out. This would be because Pete B while not really a moderate was perceived as such and his voters were coming from that category and presumably because more of Amy’s voters would go to Bernie sanders or Elizabeth Warren, than to Joe Biden. Or is Elizabeth Warren also going to quit?
This proves once again, as Giuliani proved in 2008, where he banked large numbers of votes in Florida, that early voting in presidential primaries is a very bad idea.
Congressman James Clyburn in South Carolina, before he endorsed Joe Biden wanted to see his performance in the last debate and the latest polls. So even he waited, (He was also of the opinion that Biden would have to win by a large margin, and he did.)
Of course, Buttigieg had no plans past South Carolina, nor did Steyer. Nor did Al Gore in 1988 have any good plans past Super Tuesday/
Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:54 amPete Buttigieg talked yesterday not only to Joe Biden but Barack Obama. Obama it is said wanted him to endorse Biden but Mayor ete said he would sleep on it.
Candidates only “suspend” their campaign because they still want to collect matching funds they had been expecting, and maybe also get their delegates to the convention.
Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 3/2/2020 @ 11:57 amAs a Trump supporter you have no standing to complain about spending. Nobody spends more profligately than a Trump Republican. The only difference between today’s Democrats and today’s Republicans is the Dems are tax and spend, the Repubs borrow and spend.
You mean a Mitch McConnell, George Bush, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney Republican.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:18 pmPete Buttigieg talked yesterday not only to Joe Biden but Barack Obama. Obama it is said wanted him to endorse Biden but Mayor Pete said he would sleep on it.
Looks like Obama is making his mark on the primary. Did he put pressure on Amy K? Anyway, we’re down to 4 Little Indians, and it looks like Fauxahontas will drop out on Wednesday, if she loses Massachusetts.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:20 pmBloomberg will never be nominated, and Gulliani never had a chance. New Yorkers never seem to understand that there’s a big huge country west of the Hudson – and they don’t care about New York City very much.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:22 pmI’m still amazed that Bloomie could jump from being a liberal Democrat to a Republican to an independent, back to a Republican and now back to being a Democrat, without anyone getting upset. Warren brought up his neutrality in 2012, and his giving $$ to Republicans. But the Democrats just don’t seem to care.
rcocean (1a839e) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:24 pm@82. OTOH, Franklin Roosevelt was governor of New York—- and elected president four times.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:26 pmI don’t think Bernie or Warren are thrilled. Plus, Amy, Buttigieg, and Joe are all allying to defeat his bid, so I’m not sure you’re right about this.
Plus, sure, Bloomberg’s ads have bought him a certain amount of support as a stop Bernie “Democrat,” but he’s hardly running away with it.
Sure, his poitics are about convenience and personal vanity moreso than heartfelt belief. At least I buy that Bernie is a legit commie, for example.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:28 pm83.I’m still amazed that Bloomie could jump from being a liberal Democrat to a Republican to an independent, back to a Republican and now back to being a Democrat, without anyone getting upset.
Ever heard of Texas governor John Connally? Or Arlen Specter? Or any of the conservative weenies lately who jumped to indy status ’cause they were driven out of the GOP?
Rodents all.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:31 pm@83. Then there’s Ronald Reagan– who was a life-long democrat. Until he wasn’t.
Rodents all.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:32 pmThere’s a difference between switching once, and switching over and over again as convenient.
At one point, I was a conservative. People change.
Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:34 pm82.84. One time he ran against another ew Yorker Thomas E, Dewey.
Martin Van Buren and Grover Cleveland were also from New York, as was Theodore Roosevelt.
Governor Nelson Rockefeller was sort of considered a serious candidate for the Republican nomination for President in the 1960s. And there was Robert F Kennedy who was elected Senator from New York in 1964, the Massachusetts seat being taken by his brother Teddy)
The era of New York candidates for president seemed over and then we had Hillary Clinton (albeit a cynical carpetbagger) Donald Trump (albeit with no base in New York) Bernie Sanders (albeit he moved to Vermont 45 years or so before he first ran for president) and Michael Bloomberg (albeit he was born in Massachusetts)
Mayor of New York has historically been a dead end. No one has ever gone on to a higher office.
Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:40 pmThe next Democratic presidential debate is scheduled for Sunday March 15, but if there are only two candidates left then, it might not take place because then it would be easy for one of the candidates to beg off.
No dates or conditions for participation in debates have been set for after March 15.
Sammy Finkelman (9fe80b) — 3/2/2020 @ 12:41 pm