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8/20/2019

Planned Parenthood refuses Federal Funds over Restrictions

Filed under: Abortion — DRJ @ 11:00 am



[Link from DRJ]

Planned Parenthood on Twitter:

Today, the Trump admin is forcing us out of the Title X program — our nation’s program focused on family planning, of which we serve 40% of patients. This is a *direct attack* on Planned Parenthood and on our health and rights, and we will not stand for it. #StandWithPP #ProtectX

Promise kept. Score one for Trump.

— DRJ

41 Responses to “Planned Parenthood refuses Federal Funds over Restrictions”

  1. They’d rather worship Moloch than provide protection. Their blood sacrifice must continue.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  2. Though its opponents assert otherwise, the Trump administration is not forcing Planned Parenthood out of a federal spending program. It is not targeting one particular group for eviction from Title X out of disregard for women. And it is certainly not cutting funding for women’s health care; Title X spending will not be reduced by one penny.

    Rather, the administration is ensuring that rules already in place barring the federal funding of abortion procedures actually take effect in practice. Trump’s HHS is offering Planned Parenthood a choice: Does the group wish to financially benefit from providing abortions, or does it wish to continue receiving money under Title X?

    The answer is revealing. Planned Parenthood ritually promotes, both in public statements and in its annual reports, the false statistic that abortion accounts for a mere 3 percent of its work…..

    ……….Planned Parenthood and its supporters would have us believe two contradictory statements at once. That, first, the group is an average provider of women’s health care, offering a vast array of services and having hardly anything to do with abortion. But that, second, abortion is a central component of Planned Parenthood’s work and that it would be a betrayal of its mission to financially distinguish it from the rest of the bottom line.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/planned-parenthood-exposes-its-dedication-to-abortion/
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    harkin (d17996)

  3. They “will not stand for it”.

    Look for a fire sale on baby parts as they furiously lash out…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. This may suck a lot for the women who use planned parenthood for their well woman visits, birth control, etc. For all the “oh no abortions!” it isn’t like anyone has stepped up over the years to provide an alternative for women needing other kinds of reproductive care.

    Nic (896fdf)

  5. Another score.

    For those not keeping score at home, that makes it 763 Trump, 0 never Trump.

    lee (f8d029)

  6. What specifically are those “other kinds of reproductive care”, Nic?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  7. Pelvic exams, Pap smears, STD testing and treatment, birth control, etc.

    Nic (896fdf)

  8. STD testing and treatment, birth control,

    They should get the money for those three things from their boyfriends. In advance.

    nk (dbc370)

  9. Wow. The 1970 Title X stated: “None of the funds appropriated under this title shall be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning.”

    PP doesn’t want to separate its contraception business from its abortion business, as required by the statute establishing Title X…ergo, they withdrew themselves from the program.

    It’s actually a win for the rule of law.

    Good for Trump.

    whembly (fd57f6)

  10. I wholeheartedly give him credit too, whembly.

    nk (dbc370)

  11. 2020 election is coming soon and planned parenthood will continue on as donations have increased. Post natal abortion time for right to lifers is coming soon.

    lany (09c013)

  12. 7… if they can’t afford ObamaCare, there are clinics available for these. For some reason, Democrats keep fighting the effort to make BCPs over-the-counter.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. The only people who can’t afford Obamacare are people 50-64, due to subsidies having a hard income cap and premiums having no cap. Few women 50-64 need birth control.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  14. @12 Not really, that’s part of the reason PP had existed as long as it has. It’s the main and sometimes only, provider for women’s healthcare in a lot of areas.

    There are a number of different kinds of birth control which are not the pill that can’t be OTC. IUD, depo, etc.

    The controversy over OTC Pill is this: Right now insurance companies have to pay for it, so women pay less. If it goes OTC they don’t have to and the pharmaceutical companies will almost certainly charge significantly more than women are currently paying and the medical industry likes it as prescription only because it then forces women to come in for their well-woman appointment which many women might do less frequently if they didn’t have to in order to get their script refill for the pill. Republicans want it OTC because it means insurance doesn’t have to pay for it and they can quit sounding unreasonable in not wanting businesses to have to buy insurance that pays for it. Probably Republicans are getting money from the pharmaceutical industry and the Democrats are getting money from the medical industry. I wish I though either party was actually doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

    Nic (896fdf)

  15. Meanwhile, back in the swamp, Willard Romney is calling for a carbon tax to combat climate change.

    Staunch!

    lee (f8d029)

  16. @13 Women over 50 still need pelvic exams, pap smears, and STD testing and treatment. I don’t know how generally PP provides HRT for menopause, but some do. The girl parts don’t just disappear when a women turns 50.

    Nic (896fdf)

  17. You know they admitted in congreszional teatimomny they do no such thing.

    Narciso (50a424)

  18. 14. Nic (896fdf) — 8/20/2019 @ 1:01 pm

    If it goes OTC they don’t have to and the pharmaceutical companies will almost certainly charge significantly more than women are currently paying

    More than the co-pays they are currently paying, but the pharmaceutical compamies get less than what the insurance companies and Medicaid are currently paying.

    and the medical industry likes it as prescription only because it then forces women to come in for their well-woman appointment which many women might do less frequently if they didn’t have to in order to get their script refill for the pill.

    People going to doctors just to get their prescriptions renewed is much bigger than that. More than half of the doctors’ appointments people make are probably for that reason, or for no reason at all. And waht Obama want to fo? Reduce or eliminate copays for “prevention>” What co-pays ought to be reduced or eliminated ro (and doctors paid morew) is for unscheduled appointemsnts (and to limit abuse. there ought to be a cap on the percentage of appointments amedical practice can deem unscheduled.

    Even if an examination is warranted that could be done by a nurse, even a visiting nurse and the doctor could renew by telephone or it coudl be automatic if no problem was reported. But that’s part of the crazy way medical care is now.

    Republicans want it OTC because it means insurance doesn’t have to pay for it and they can quit sounding unreasonable in not wanting businesses to have to buy insurance that pays for it. Probably Republicans are getting money from the pharmaceutical industry

    No, the pharmaceutical industry loses.

    Insurance companies, and any company that pays medical benefits, gain when something goes off prescription and Over the Counter, as OTC is not usually copvered by insurance, although it is by such things as Health Savings accounts.

    Pharmaceutical companies only like putting things over the counter when their patent has expired and perhas there is now anewer medicine that doctors will prescribe.

    and the Democrats are getting money from the medical industry.

    The medical industry, and therefore their unions , (nurses’ unions, hospital workers unions etc) is better off when there is more medical care.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  19. @17 Women over 50 testified to congress that they don’t get pap smears?

    Nic (896fdf)

  20. This is a *direct attack* on Planned Parenthood and on our health and rights, and we will not stand for it.

    Then sit down, b!tch!

    I’ll tell you all, right now, it may be short and it may be orange, but this is one finger that I like to see given to the baby-killers.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. Planned Parenthood is not indispensable to anything. They built a customer base, that’s all. If they don’t provide what their customers need, their customers will go to providers who do.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. “More than the co-pays they are currently paying, but the pharmaceutical compamies get less than what the insurance companies and Medicaid are currently paying.”

    When you go into a pharmacy to get a prescription filled, do you care what your insurance pays for your medication, or do you care what YOU pay for your medication? A lot of women vote Democrat.

    The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t lose on OTC. Otherwise they’d be like disney and their never ending quest to extend copyright and everything would be prescription only. /cynicism.

    I have to agree otherwise though, the medical industry is an ongoing trainwreck.

    Nic (896fdf)

  23. @21 anyone could have done that during the last 40 years. If CPCs had been anything but a joke, they would have. However, no one has and no one did and if women who currently use PP for their women’s health services suddenly find those services no longer available, it sucks for them.

    Nic (896fdf)

  24. This is not actually news. Planned Parenthood already announced that they are not acceptong any conditions on money granted or paid to them.

    They decied that they couldn’t use any Title X money for contraception unless they separated abortion from that, and that they wold not do.

    And they even fired their new head when she thought there was value in all the other things Planned Parenthood does besides abortions. She had taken their talking points seriously.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/opinion/sunday/leana-wen-planned-parenthood.html

    But in the end, I was asked to leave for the same reason I was hired: I was changing the direction of Planned Parenthood.

    What Planned Parenthood is doing is something like a gamble, with not much of a downside. Its executives will not see a loss of compensation, because they are making aure the organization has as much surplus as before, and they can get more if, as they probably think, a Democratic president and Congress is elected in 2020.

    But if they cave in now, they won’t so easily get more money. They’re trying to hold everything hostage to abortion.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  25. 22. Nic (896fdf) — 8/20/2019 @ 1:40 pm

    When you go into a pharmacy to get a prescription filled, do you care what your insurance pays for your medication, or do you care what YOU pay for your medication? A lot of women vote Democrat.

    When something is prescription, and therefore covered by insurance, the patient usually pays lesss than when soemthing is over the counter and therefore not covered by insurace. The patient oays more, but the pharmaceutical companies get less.

    The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t lose on OTC. Otherwise they’d be like disney and their never ending quest to extend copyright and everything would be prescription only. /cynicism.

    They can’t easily convert something from OTVC to prescrition, but they can avoid letting things go OTC. And they do. Because they usuallly lose when soemthing becomes OTC.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  26. . Otherwise they’d be like disney and their never ending quest to extend copyright and everything would be prescription only. /cynicism

    When you have some time, I invite you to look into how the pharmaceutical companies manipulate patents and the FDA approval process to extend their production monopolies long after the official expiration date.

    Kishnevi (b58549)

  27. @14… Yes really…

    THURSDAY, Dec. 11, 2014 (HealthDay News) — “The pill remains one of the most popular methods of birth control for women, along with female sterilization and condoms, a new report shows.

    Among the two-thirds of women aged 15 to 44 who used birth control between 2011 and 2013, approximately 16 percent used the pill.”

    Walmart actually has nine different generic birth control pills available for $9 a month, according to their $4 generic drug list (apparently they can’t do it for $4?). Sprintec and what I’m guessing is a variant called tri-sprintec appear to be the only birth control pills offered by Target as part of their $4 generics program.

    If in fact you really are looking for a $4 generic birth control pill, there are still options. Philith and gildagia, both generic versions of Ovcon, are available at Target as well as what GoodRx can only identify as a local membership warehouse (i.e. Costco, Sam’s Club, or BJ’s) for $3.77. Other local pharmacies including Safeway, Walmart, and CVS all carry the same pills for about $6 or $7.

    Female sterilization, where women have their fallopian tubes closed or blocked, was used by 15.5 percent of women, while 9.4 percent used male condoms, according to the report published Dec. 11 by the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS).

    But intrauterine devices (IUDs) and implants, both types of long-acting reversible contraceptives, are close on the heels of these other forms of birth control, with 7.2 percent of women using them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  28. ObamaCare was supposed to resolve the healthcare issues for those who can’t afford insurance (in reality, properly prioritize their expenses)… at least that’s what Democrats insisted. Medicaid is offered. All sorts of solutions.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  29. OK good job, know cut the #@@@## budget.

    mg (8cbc69)

  30. now

    mg (8cbc69)

  31. I think the 9th Circuit helped make this happen, too. Kudos to The judges. PP needs to tweet about them as much as Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  32. Bear in mind that if the MD prescribes a pill that is not Ovcon, the generic versions of Ovcon can not be substituted. So the question depends in part on what birth control pills are/are not available as cheap generics, and what percentage of prescriptions are given for cheap generics.
    It’s like those antibiotics various drugstores offer for $0. The offer is of no use if your doctor prefers to prescribe an antibiotic he thinks is more effective.

    Kishnevi (b58549)

  33. Shoprite (mainly based in New York and New Jersey) is now offering (new program starting Aug 19) a 30-day supply oof some generics for $3.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  34. Note that the Title X funds are still available to providers that do not offer abortion services. Many will get far more than they did, since the PP competition is gone. At least so longs as states like CA don’t prohibit receiving that tainted money.

    Title X funds will still be spent on several other services, including cancer screenings, STI testing, and contraceptives. The only service Trump’s Title X policy restricts is abortion. Yet Planned Parenthood acts as if Trump is attacking women’s healthcare in its entirety.

    Some blue states, such as California and Washington, have ridiculously threatened to decline Title X funds altogether simply because those funds cannot go to abortion facilities. In other words, these states would deny their female residents low-cost legitimate health services simply so they can make a political statement about abortion. The ruling Democrats in these states are “playing politics” with women’s healthcare.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/planned-parenthood-to-lose-millions-after-9th-circuit-title-x-ruling

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  35. It’s like those antibiotics various drugstores offer for $0. The offer is of no use if your doctor prefers to prescribe an antibiotic he thinks is more effective.

    It would have to be terribly necessary for a doctor to prescribe it for a Medicaid patient. They know what is cheap. Doxycycline and amoxicillin are very effective and can be had for under $15 with GoodRx.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  36. Apparently, PP sued the Trump administration after they promulgated the “rule” that existing law should be enforced. PP won in district court, with a preliminary injunction blocking imposition of the rule. The administration appealed to the 9th Circuit, which ruled 3-0 to stay the lower court injunction and allow the new rules to go forward pending a trial in district court.

    This isn’t over, but at least the lower-court foot-dragging is.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  37. This isn’t your father’s 9th Circus.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  38. @28 I mean there aren’t really enough other clinics. There’s a reason PP has stuck around despite significant resistance.

    I appreciate the practical discussion, guys.

    Nic (896fdf)

  39. Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/20/2019 @ 3:56 pm

    But there may be reasons. If my old MD was right, the fact I am allergic to penicillin means I need to avoid amoxicillin, or in fact any antibiotic whose name is in the -cillin form.

    Kishnevi (72bb0b)

  40. Nice headline, but I’d go with:

    “This philandering, thrice-divorced playboy has done more for the pro-life cause than all the Republican presidents from Ford to Bush the Lesser combined

    …for the real oomph (or perhaps, OOOFF) factor.

    Pro-Life Hefner (11dedc)


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