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2/14/2019

Andrew McCabe: Darn Right We Talked About Removing The President From Office

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:17 am



[guest post by Dana]

During an interview with Scott Pelley of 60 Minutes, former Deputy Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe opened up about his order for an investigation into President Trump after the 2016 election:

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe told CBS News’ “60 Minutes” that he ordered obstruction of justice and counterintelligence investigations into President Donald Trump after a conversation with him immediately after he fired James Comey as FBI director.

"I was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency, and who might have done so with the aid of the government of Russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage," McCabe said. "And that was something that troubled me greatly. "

One day after that conversation, McCabe said he "met with the team investigating the Russia cases."

"And I asked the team to go back and conduct an assessment to determine where are we with these efforts and what steps do we need to take going forward," he said. "I was very concerned that I was able to put the Russia case on absolutely solid ground in an indelible fashion, that were I removed quickly and reassigned or fired, that the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace."

"I wanted to make sure that our case was on solid ground," he continued. "And if somebody came in behind me and closed it and tried to walk away from it, they would not be able to do that without creating a record of why they'd made that decision."

Also, according to Pelley, McCabe also admitted that law enforcement and senior intelligence officials discussed whether Trump could be ousted under the 25th amendment:

…Pelley provided more details about the interview, including McCabe’s description of the aftermath of Comey’s firing, saying there were “meetings at the Justice Department at which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment.”

“These were the eight days from Comey’s firing to the point that Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel,” he continued. “And the highest levels of American law enforcement were trying to figure out what do with the president.”

Interesting that they believed Mike Pence might be willing to sign on to removing Trump from office. Apparently, that Pence signed on to the Trump-Pence ticket in spite of the troubling revelations about Trump’s character wasn’t enough for McCabe to recognize Pence’s unwavering loyalty to Trump. Pence told Andrea Mitchell that he had no knowledge of any 25th amendment discussions, and said any such thing was “absurd”. He also said that he “”couldn’t be more proud” of Trump’s accomplishments in office, “and the words of a disgraced FBI agent won’t change that fact for the American people.””

Of course the president took to Twitter in response:

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The full interview on 60 Minutes is scheduled to air Feb. 17.

P.S. Andrew McCabe is currently promoting his new book “The Threat: How the FBI Protects America in the Age of Terror and Trump,” which is set to be released Feb. 19.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

162 Responses to “Andrew McCabe: Darn Right We Talked About Removing The President From Office”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (023079)

  2. dirty rosytwat wanted to go in hot with a wire and shoot baby hitler in the face

    but calmer heads prevailed

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. a reminder of what our sleazy justice department is doing to investigate the dirty fascist coup what the cowardly men and women of the treasonous fbi tried to do all up in it

    Instead, more than a year since his appointment, John Huber’s lack of traction on either front is leading many once hopeful supporters to dismiss his investigation as a “sham.”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Happyfeet,

    … rosytwat

    Avoid using crude terminology or find yourself in moderation.

    Dana (023079)

  5. Dana #5: no, no one will do that. And it’s a shame.

    It creates more toxicity every day, but my opinion is not, um, universally shared on that topic.

    Remember, the fellow chooses to post that way. He doesn’t have to. And it is tolerated (just do a search for that and other needlessly vulgar terms). Which is okay; it’s not my blog.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  6. that’s a reference to rod rosenstein

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Well hes encouraged to do so, Simon,

    Narciso (4d6146)

  8. I realize that, happyfeet. Just stick to his name or something less crude, k?

    Dana (023079)

  9. How about a 24-hour exemption for Pikachu to do as Kramer at the Dentist’s chair, this story seems to warrant it.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  10. ok but he’s a traitor so it’s important to give no solace to traitors

    i will give this some thought

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. Trying to figure out which is more clueless, ‘rosyt**t’ or ‘lol Deep State’.

    harkin (e15868)

  12. McCabe and Mr. Mueller. (I did say it first. I did! I did! I did! Right here as a matter of fact.) The whole country has always known that their goal has always been to undermine and overthrow Trump since the first day he was elected. Half the country applauds it.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. first of all trump and his mega’s can thank jill stein voters for refusing to hold their noses and vote war criminal hillary. they could put up with a crook ;but not some who voted for they iraq war. mccabe and his running dogs should have gone after green party’s jill stein for getting trump elected president. for the ignorant michigan trump wins 10,000 stein vote 55,000 pennsylvania 43,000/50,000 wisconsin 22,000/50,000.

    lany (a70469)

  14. you have to figure this is all being coordinated with gestapo bob, so andy’s narrative is bob’s narrative, and whatever andy’s trying to punch as a message is meant to resonate with whatever gestapo bob and the kgb-fbi do next

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  15. i think the nut of it’s that second paragraph up there where andy spews a bunch of wholly unsupported slander

    “I was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency, and who might have done so with the aid of the government of Russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage,” McCabe said. “And that was something that troubled me greatly.”

    so we’re truly coming full circle now

    this tells us definitely that the cowardly weak and traitorous men and women of the perverted fbi were never able to manufacture anything remotely compelling to justify their sleazy phony investigation

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. Somewhat off-topic:

    The Senate GOP intends to force a rule change on confirmations. Up to now, after a filibuster has been defeated in a cloture vote, 30 hours of debate is available to opponents. The Democrats have been filibustering everyone, then using the 30-hour debate period to slow-walk the Senate.

    This has meant that many executive positions have gone unfilled as the Senate has prioritized lifetime judicial appointments. This will now change, either by an official rule change or the nuclear option.

    The new rule changes the 30-hour period to a 2-hour period, except for Cabinet officers and appeals court judges (including the SC). This means that all the “acting” holdovers from the Obama administration (the bulk of the Deep State) can be replaced by Trump’s people in short order.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  17. yeah that’s cause dirty racist jheff fhlake went Full Cowardpig McCain at the end there Mr. M

    it was kind of a spectacle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  18. Trump to sign border security bill and declare national emergency to fund wall, White House says

    this presidency’s more fun than spending a whole weekend at barbie’s beach house with all the wine coolers you can drink

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. He started the investigation so his successor could not close it out? An investigation based on…nothing??

    Why could not McCabe have contacted the legion of Trump haters in Congress to open the investigation after he was fired, or is he saying he would have been sent to a gulag and unable to testify?

    What a bunch of transparent, over dramatic lies!!

    Patricia (3363ec)

  20. yeah that’s cause dirty racist jheff fhlake went Full Cowardpig McCain at the end there Mr. M

    It had nothing to do that. It had to do with Schumer and his ilk talking for a week before each and every nomination could be voted on. One confirmation a week, so long as the Dems delayed. Now that ability to delay ends and hundreds of assistant undersecretaries can be confirmed to replace Obama holdovers.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  21. g that they believed Mike Pence might be willing to sign on to removing Trump from office

    It could be that:

    A) Andrew McCabe just wasn’t very politically sophisticated – and maybe it thought it was a real accident that Milke Pence became Vice Presdident.

    B) McCabe didn’t really expect that to be possible, but he was grasping at straws, since that was required by the Constitution for that to work.

    C) McCabe didn’t really expect that to be possible but he threw that out to his colleagues (in other words lied to them) in particular Rod Rosenstein, in order to make it more likely that they would go along with what he really wanted them to do – start an investigation.

    D) McCabe didn’t believe that Rod Rosenstein was not politically sophisticated enough to thjink Mike Pence invoking the 25th amendment was impossible, but he wanted Rosenstein to think that he (McCabe) was, and that he was going to start the process of contacting Cabinet members, with a view to collecting a majority and then going to Mike Pence, and he wanted Rosenstein to help him with convincing Cabinet members, (and maybe also some emmbers of Congress) and Rosenstein thought that would disrupt the government and/or create a political crisis, or at least lead to a purge of the FBI with their replacements being political people or unable to be confirmed – and he knew Rosenstein really didn’t like that idea and so McCabe thought (correctly) that Rosenstein would be manipualted into creating a special counsel in order to stop McCabe from going forward with this.

    E) McCabe is lying now – at least about Rosenstein’s offer to wear a wire being serious. He might be pretending to have taken that seriously. Maybe he pretended that at the time.

    D and E can both be true.

    D) McCabe thouyght he could find information so damaging to Trump that Pence would go along.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  22. The last is F. D would be plausible, but we need more information..

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  23. “I was very concerned that I was able to put the Russia case on absolutely solid ground in an indelible fashion“

    Thank heavens the golden showers dossier fit that bill.

    Munroe (d71f52)

  24. Trump to sign border security bill and declare national emergency to fund wall, White House says

    Did they wait until at least the House had passed the bill?

    The next step is not a court fight.

    The next step, and Mitch Mczzconnell told him thsi during teh shutdown, is Nancy Pelosi brings up a resolution to reverse Trump’s repurposement of funds. It gets virtually all Democrat votes and needs 55 Republicans (or 27.5%) to get a 2/3 majority (Under the emergency act of 1976 that reverses it)

    It is privileged resolution and must be brought up in the Senate as well. There it needs 20 out of 53 (or 38% or 3/8) of all Republicans. It might depend on what, and how much funding Trump tries to divert.

    If it gets a 2/3 majority in both Houses of Congress I’m not sure how this works.

    Is the 2/3 only 2/3 because this is a rule of both houses, but it is a regular bill and Trump has ten days (excluding Sundays) to sign or veto it, and then both Houses must pass it (override his veto) by a 2/3 majority again?

    Or is it enough to pass it once, and if so, does Trump have a court case that this procedure is unconstitutional? If Trump doesn’t veto it, they could be arguing about whetehr it passed into law without his signature. No pocket veto here in the middle of a session.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  25. 14. You know Jill Stein was supported by Russia.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  26. Veto the gosh dang bill. Trump never should have did the omnibus. He was taken to the cleaners by Paul Ryan and company. And now he should expose the GOP. Let them override his veto.

    mg (8cbc69)

  27. Today, President Trump renominated 51 candidates for the federal judiciary. The list of nominees is here.

    Trump had to renominate these candidates because they had not been confirmed when the last Session of Congress ended. We can thank Jeff Flake and the Senate Democrats for this.

    – Paul Mirengoff (famous lawyer)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  28. I’ve seen this snippet of McCabe all over the place, saying he wanted to shore up the foundation of the Russia investigation but I still have not seen what it was that initially led to his suspicion the Trump might be Putin’s puppet. Was it Steele’s dossier, rumors and smears and outright lies put forth by an operative of the Clinton campaign, that triggered this whole thing? If that’s how the DoJ and the FBI operate, investigating every charge no matter how outlandish and unsubstantiated, why haven’t we heard anything about prior investigations into whether or not Obama was a secret Kenyan Muslim, whether or not Bush was a Saudi puppet, whether or not Clinton was a serial rapist? If every salacious bit of information becomes reasonable suspicion becomes probable cause, surely they investigated every prior President on similar grounds, right?

    Jerryskids (702a61)

  29. “steele dossier” is just a fancy name for a fake document of lies about urinating hookers paid for by Hillary and disseminated by Meghan’s coward daddy in hopes of furthering a coup on the duly elected president

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. @20. More fun than a month of Sundays watching Sonny Fox’s Wonderama, Mr. Feet! Opioid emergency, gun violence emergency and climate change emergency on deck.

    Love that Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  31. Payback’s a b-tch when you screw a guy out of his pension, Captain, sir.

    “All you’ve cost me so far is money and pain…” – McCabe [Warren Beatty] ‘McCabe & Mrs. Miller’ 1971

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  32. and yet sometimes i question your commitment to sparklemotion Mr. DCSCA

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  33. Democrats have schooled cocaine mitch and the rest of the rino pos.

    mg (8cbc69)

  34. @34. Not every episode of Dallas was a 10; some slipped to a 9 or 8. But sometimes, it sparkles up to a 25; breakfast at Tiffany’s on Sundays, she serves mimosas, Mr. Feet!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  35. The United States of Lice infested Crimaliens

    mg (8cbc69)

  36. Emergency declaration is another loser. The only way the wall gets built is with el chapos drug money.
    And deep stater Barr was approved.
    Kissing it good-bye.

    mg (8cbc69)

  37. yes yes this barr guy’s a bush loser – i think he was all up into lecherous old pappy bush (cia dirty butt taco munch)

    ugh

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. one thing i have going for me is i enjoy tacos.

    mg (8cbc69)

  39. If Trump signs this he won’t run in 20/20.

    mg (8cbc69)

  40. do they have the votes to override

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. yes, fusion who ran interference for the atf, for theranos for planned parenthood, for an Iranian supported emirate prince over his brother, did the deed, and they represented Russian sources, although in truth, it was probably Nellie ohrs creative writing,

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. And all of this based on the Fusion-GPS manure pile…

    It appears the Russian Collusion was all performed by the DOJ, FBI and the “Intelligence” leadership.

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  43. Some folks may deserve prosecution.

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  44. I referenced the Zinoviev letter, which the british secret service, used to topple the macdonald govt in 1924 alleging a Soviet inspired longshoreman’s strike,

    narciso (d1f714)

  45. 13… as proven a few months back, you were not the first, my good man…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. 30… too late, you’ve made your bed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. 32… you can always be depended on for the fringe issues, but never theheart of the matter. Why is that?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. it’s like reminding them that bruce willis is dead in the sixth senses,

    yikes coronello

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. 30. Jerryskids (702a61) — 2/14/2019 @ 2:29 pm

    but I still have not seen what it was that initially led to his suspicion the Trump might be Putin’s puppet. Was it Steele’s dossier, rumors and smears and outright lies put forth by an operative of the Clinton campaign, that triggered this whole thing?

    No. The obvious thing would be, Trump’s kind words for Putin, and Putin’s maybe for Trump – and don’t forget the hacking of DNC emails and the leaking to Wikileaks – Putin clearly voted for Trump; the appointment of Mike Flynn as his National Security Advisor (and McCabe and others high up in the government might well have known that Mike Flynn was suspected of having been recruited by the GRU while he was head of the DIA, (partly because he paid avoisit to GFR headquarters and wanted them to come here, and partly because of some policy positions he advocated) and that’s why Obama fired him; and the appointment of Paul Manafort as campaighn head (and Manafort is now suspected by Mueller to have been knowingly working with Russian intelligence while he wss working in Ukraine.); and then there were acouple of foreign policy positions he took or seemed to take that would make Putin very happy, like criticizing NATO.

    The dossier was the result of the Hillary Clinton inspired investigation as to why Putin supported Trump, and it was a lot of nonsense. Steele’s Russian sources did not tell him the truth.

    They offered two basic ideas: Or three:

    1) Putin had compromising information on Trump and could blackmail him.

    2) Trump had been working very closely with the Russian government for years and they had given him money.

    3) Trump and Putin were working together on the hacking. Michael Cohen had supposedly gone to Prague to discuss, among other things, splitting the costs of future hacking.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  50. I heard on the CBS Evening News that McCabe says it was Rosenstein who brought up the idea of the 25th amendment. I’ll have to listen to the 60 Minutes interview.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  51. Why was their no response from horowitz, or any of his people?

    Klimnik was recruited from the iri who in turn recruited him from a gig for an arms dealer, now lwvchenko

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  52. If the stuff in the Steele Dossier could be verified, why does it matter who paid for the research? Maybe Santa Claus dropped it down the chimney. Does it matter?

    (If it can’t be verified, it should be tossed, even if the Angel Gabriel passed it to them, IMO)

    Nic (896fdf)

  53. “Mike Flynn was suspected of having been recruited by the GRU while he was head of the DIA, (partly because he paid avoisit to GFR headquarters and wanted them to come here, and partly because of some policy positions he advocated) and that’s why Obama fired him;”

    Wait… so you’re saying that 0bama was insincere when he said “tell Vlad I can be more flexible after the [2012] election”?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  54. Yes that was garbage from halper who had ties to a deputy svr head, also from the fusion fudge pot.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  55. The point is you’re supposed to verify it, before you put in any official document.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  56. So McCabe had to act out of his fear of that great enemy Russia but apparently had no problem working for Obama, who got elected by declaring the Russian bogey man was dead.

    bud (b48f3e)

  57. MABA… Make Alexandria Bartend Again

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. It’s like I look at the sky and look for the two moons coronello,

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  59. Still nothing to see here, narciso, the same idiots will be spinning it the same old ways and the people who do their level best to diminish POTUS will do the same.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  60. Btim when Obama looks the other way in smolensk over Ukrainian skies, well he tells the likes of Simon Schuster putin is losing in ths Ukraine when only food rations are shipped to them, instead of javelin missiles

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  61. “Obama, who got elected by declaring the Russian bogey man was dead.”

    Oh?

    Davethulhu (e458f4)

  62. ‘The 80s called, they want their foreign policy back’ ring a bell.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  63. “The ’70s called and they want their Cold War back”, I think. Debate with Romney.

    nk (dbc370)

  64. Sorry, narciso has it right.

    “Not Al Qaeda, you said Russia,” Obama continued. “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because you know, the Cold War has been over for 20 years.”

    nk (dbc370)

  65. Then the inept Kenyan Muslim Communist, that would be Obama, thought the Russians would accept Maidan, that would be the coup in Ukraine, with folded hands.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. I mean, ok, but it was hardly a cornerstone of his election platform.

    Davethulhu (e458f4)

  67. I mean, ok, but it was hardly a cornerstone of his election platform.

    What was it, then? “If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance; if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”?

    nk (dbc370)

  68. What the ‘peregruska’ about then, one gets the idea there wasnt total coordination in some areas, of course Podesta and Craig and co, were lobbying against at the time.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  69. Hope and Change, nk, I’m surprised you’ve forgotten.

    Davethulhu (e458f4)

  70. I thought that was in 2008.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Did somebody allege it was a “cornerstone”?

    It didn’t have to be, he showed his true colors and then reached for the Axe spray…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  72. 72… more like Dope and Sex Change…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  73. You are right, of course, that’s what I get for trying to be glib.

    Davethulhu (e458f4)

  74. Trump: First President in a century not to have an official White House pet.
    Obama: First President ever to invite 100 trannies to the White House and have one of them cuss him out.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. So McCain hired Manafort who got Deripaska a travel Visa, but the latter got much more when he hired Waldman who had deep ties to all sorts in the menagerie.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  76. Waldman was also running a back channel to Assange, at some point.

    Narciso (6daa8a)

  77. “Trump: First President in a century not to have an official White House pet.”

    Is Acosta housebroken yet?

    harkin (e15868)

  78. Heh! I would classify him as infestation.

    nk (dbc370)

  79. Well, was Melania ever a Penthouse pet?

    urbanleftbehind (826a08)

  80. Im sending money to the democrat that runs against cocaine mitch.

    mg (8cbc69)

  81. Only other person Ive given money to was Ted Cruz.
    Best thing for Americans would be for d.c. dissapearing in a welcomed disaster.

    mg (8cbc69)

  82. @82. He’s got a few dogs around him; Sarah! Kellyanne! Time for walkies!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  83. In his defense, he does compare lots of people to dogs. Canine insults are his fave.

    JRH (fe281f)

  84. Jeb Trump.

    mg (8cbc69)

  85. Here DCSCA, come on boy, sit, kennel up, good boy.

    mg (8cbc69)

  86. Coulter/20/20
    Time for someone to man up.

    mg (8cbc69)

  87. CNN Jake Tapper fake news roundly mocked pervy Mhitt Rhomney for his dirty Russia fetish

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. happyfeet, what is your opinion of ad blockers? Some people think of them as malware in and of themselves.

    nk (dbc370)

  89. this looks like my must-read link of the day to where the window doesn’t close til i read it up

    These led the president to decide to exercise his national emergency powers, and then face certain court challenges. He now has the benefit of his newly confirmed attorney general, William Barr; having been A-G before and a legal ace, Barr’s counsel is much needed.

    why we should trust nasty swamp-wallowing bush filth like William Barr or the rest of the polluted corrupt department of justice does not appear to be addressed here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. Should be a magnificent day for golf in Palm Beach.

    JRH (fe281f)

  91. i never used an adblocker til i just had to get that twitchy sidebar our of my life so i installed ublock

    i need to see ads just for vaguely professional reasons

    twitchy makes the whole whirl more stupider though

    my feel about all this is you keep 4 browsers up and you use a mix of different blocking stuff where you can – and with only one of these browsers would you ever log into google or zuckertwizzle (mmm so good)

    you delete cookies when you’re stuck on a stupid conference call

    if people want to demean themselves and their god-given humanity by going on social media they deserve whatever disgusting torment sleazy jack douchey has in mind for them

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. oopers *out* of my life i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  93. i like how propaganda trash-monkeys like business insider won’t serve content if you have an adblocker

    it makes you stop and think what you’re doing

    i don’t think i’ve ever unblocked any trash-journalism sites what do that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. Thank you. I already use Firefox only for Netflix (it used to be Edge but one of the automatic updates deleted it and it was not worth the trouble to reinstall), and Chrome for everything else. Opera for the third browser since it has a built-in ad blocker?

    nk (dbc370)

  95. i use Brave for #3 (brendan eich’s new thinger-thing)

    and old IE

    but Edge is dead to me

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  96. i think it’s also important to set duckduckgo as your default search so you have to consciously make a choice to give your search data to the america-hating anti-semites at google

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  97. Google+ is going away, I have edge on my laptop.

    Narciso (c21536)

  98. Jerryskids, I heard another snippet from McCabe where he said that in his meeting with the president, he heard a comment from Trump that led him to suspect he was colluding with Russia, and that set off the investigation.

    Pretty weak stuff. You can take an offhand comment and start a secret counter intelligence operation on a political figure??

    Patricia (3363ec)

  99. Basically they took enemy of the state, as a how to manual

    Narciso (c21536)

  100. There was never any Russian Collusion. The entire exercise was a Deep State plot to depose a president.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  101. @ Patricia – You have to understand alot of the upper manangement civil servants in DC see themselves as the powers behind the throne. Obama also weaponized the DOJ/Intel Community starting back during the whole Benghazi fiasco. Someone like Trump who threatens to upend that apple cart will get stabbed in the back by the Beltway establishment, even if they don’t sincerely intend to “drain the swamp”.

    CygnusAnalogMan (9c66ec)

  102. the filty low-t trash at the perverted jew-hating CIA got the treasonous coup ball rolling by actively working to undermine George W.’s Irag efforts

    if dumb-ass George had been able to do it right there’s every reason to believe it wouldn’t have become the humiliating fiasco it became

    and people might still have confidence in our laughable sleazy joke-military

    but the dirty CIA sabotaged the effort from day one

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  103. oopers *Iraq* efforts i mean

    we can talk about Irag another time

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  104. It’s true tenet used to lounge around at prince bandars pool, Bob garnier had to throw darts to figure out where to allocate resources, but he always had time to pick up the tab for Dana priest and Jane mayer.

    Narciso (c21536)

  105. That someone would go on national television and essentially admit to discussing a coup shows you how much these people fear prosecution–as in none. I hope William Barr is taking notes, taking names and sets up a grand jury to look into this. Only criminal prosecution will get their attention.

    Rochf (877dba)

  106. Greniers assistant kiriakou was happy to talk to those two reporters along with Scott Shane about all his colleagues and their families.
    Grenier ended up at al Jazeera and after a brief prison term kiriakou ended up at Sputnik. He was part of the narrative against haspel.

    Narciso (c21536)

  107. “And the highest levels of American law enforcement were trying to figure out what do with the president.”

    Actually this was the highest levels of the Deep State. There needs to be a new process crime: conspiring to subvert lawful executive orders. Also, lying about same. And give the IGs power to prosecute.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  108. 111… yes, there have to be consequences. The 25th Amendment is only to be use if the POTUS is comatose or otherwise incapacitated. Starting all this based on a ruse initiated by the same people could be called treason… no?

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  109. the filth dirty trash at the fbi

    the rules what apply to everyone else

    do not apply to them

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  110. The thing of it, it’s not news it was in the ig report, like I say ground hog day all over again.

    Narciso (c21536)

  111. Trump tried to insert language about Russia in Rosenstein’s letter.Trump told Lester holt he fired Comey because of Russia. The Trump campaign tried to set up back channels to communicate with Russia. Trump associates fell over themselves lying, dissembling, and “mis-remembering” contacts with Russia. Trump said he had nothing to do with Russia. no deals, no loans, no meetings, nothing. Well, there were loans. there were meetings, and there were deals. Now Paul Manafort, whose own daughters say is likely a murderer, is in prison for all manner of dirty sh*t involving Russia and will be until Trump pardons him or, abandoned, he dies there. Then came Helsinki, where Trump looked like a wet dog with his head bowed standing next to Putin, whom he met with alone for 2 hours with just an interpreter. Trump seized the interpreters notes and refused to tell anyone what was discussed. Let’s see what am I leaving out? oh yeah the time he disclosed classified info to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in the oval office. Trey Gowdy said “if you’re innocent act like it” but he acts the exact opposite, whining and complaining at every turn as the criminal indictments of his associates — who for some reason just can’t manage to tell the truth — pile up.

    I’m leaving out tons of stuff. Saudi ties. Nat’l Enquirer ties. Wikileaks. Qatar. Kushner security clearance. NRA (ok that might not have to do with Trump but I mean, come on). Mueller has all the receipts and unlike Trump he is disciplined and single-minded.

    I get why people like Trump. He’s funny, he’s different, he’s brash, he don’t give a f***. That’s attractive. I wish we had more of it in DC. But he is rotten to the fricking core and it’s only a matter of time before we find out just how rotten.

    JRH (fe281f)

  112. Sorry, JRH, but taking all you say as true,
    1) Like all kinds of millions of people elected Trump, nobody elected Comey and McCabe; and
    2) As far as I can see, Comey and McCabe are both self-seeking hypocritical little men with no better character than Trump, simply lesser imaginations and smaller ambitions.

    nk (dbc370)

  113. president trump has corrupted anthing

    comey and mccabe turned the slishy-sloshy fbi into a seedy diseased bordello of hooker-filth

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  114. oopers *hasn’t* corrupted anything i mean

    he’s right as rain, our president

    and this is why he’s the most requested pop song on the whole dial

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  115. Ah Wikileaks which carried what the press has colluded with Clinton not to print, which the major papers had compromised personell sources and methods time and again, Brookings has 15 million reasons to thank Qatar,

    Narciso (c21536)

  116. you know who lurved him some terror-sponsoring qatar all up in it was ladyboy swish-general Jimmie Mattis

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  117. When we gave up bases in the kingdom we had to default to Qatar but they are right out of qumar in the west wing.

    Narciso (c21536)

  118. @ JRH – 1. Back channel meetings – happened after the election for the most part – all standard for incoming administrations because they don’t have anybody officially confirmed. Other back channels are part and parcel of every single administration since Washington. Plausible deniability to suss out diplomatic resolutions without the loss of face if things don’t work out.

    2. Loans – Any direct evidence showing the loans/meetings/deals were directed with the approval of the Russian government? You had Russian emigres buying Trump property condos, etc and Trump trying to get a Tower built in Moscow. Whoop de doo. He thought he was going to lose in 2016 and was trying to set the table for resuming business life. That all stopped when he won.

    3. Wikileaks – got any evidence that he knew and directed the hacks? The meeting with Trump jr/Manafort with the russian lady was a sting operation directed by Fusion GPS, which also represented Kremlin linked oligarchs trying to undo Maginitsky Act. Funny how the Democratic dog papers don’t mention that. Next?

    CygnusAnalogMan (9c66ec)

  119. That’s why they had to conjure up that phony Manafort trip to assuange, now if money laundering is the issue, they’ve had many many years to investigate that its like morgenthau who was da emeritus was a softie on the issue.

    Narciso (c21536)

  120. It’s fascinating how concerned Trump’s most loyal fans are that Obama promised increased flexibility to a complaining Russia. All that actually proves is that Obama wasn’t giving Russia what they wanted at the time of that conversation.

    Meanwhile Trump bends over backwards for the same regime and that’s no big deal. It’s probably the lamest whatabout Trump’s guys employ. It’s as lame as the “I’m not a Trump fan but… ” line they use twenty times a day.

    Obama was a poor leader, and Trump has done nothing to fix the damage. North Korea, Iran, Europe, Russia, China… Each is on an arch away from our long term interests. Yeah Democrats are bad too. But that’s not the solution. An ethical leader who isn’t a tool of Russia, but actually believes in American greatness is the solution.

    Both parties treat American greatness like a car dealer treats free floor mats.

    Dustin (d9c1a0)

  121. @118 I hear that. I have almost as little respect for Comey/McCabe as I do Trump. I think Comey’s primary purpose was to keep his own ass covered and make himself look like a Saint. He has made a mess of things and in so doing has helped Trump immensely.

    JRH (fe281f)

  122. The proof is in the pudding, Dustin, there were many deliberate aggression by Russian interests havking the exchanges invading Ukraine ww sent them #hashtags and food rations.

    Narciso (dd10e2)

  123. This is how Comey has worked going back to 2002 when he went after Martha Stewart. When
    He grandstander over the stellar wind.

    Narciso (dd10e2)

  124. it’s fascinating when trolling begins mid-morning, especially off-season…

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  125. Correction… it’s the Idiot Wind, narciso.

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  126. Did someone say Autumn Wind? At least California will be free of this pestilence by 2020.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  127. #127 @118 I hear that. I have almost as little respect for Comey/McCabe as I do Trump. I think Comey’s primary purpose was to keep his own ass covered and make himself look like a Saint. He has made a mess of things and in so doing has helped Trump immensely.

    JRH (fe281f) — 2/15/2019 @ 8:59 am

    That’s my read… but, I have a question.

    Can anyone convince me that what McCabe (and other folks around him) did were not trying to execute a coup?

    I realize that may be hyperbolic… but still…

    whembly (51f28e)

  128. I wonder if Trump’s fans recognize what a gift they are to the left. The laws being voted on represent the exact opposite of what we wanted on immigration. Trump’s chance is passed, but that’s only a small part of the issue. He is being rolled. Hopefully he turns into a veto machine, sacrificing any legacy. I don’t see it.

    Dustin (d9c1a0)

  129. @ JRH – I’m interested to know if you can point out any actual policy or actions that Trump has taken that benefit Russia since he took office. Maginitsky is still in place; he’s withdrawn us from the inter-continental missile treaty that Russia was blatantly violating since 2008 (with nary a peep from Saint Obama)and he’s given military arms to the Ukrainians. The most he’s done is say nice things about them in press conferences. Not exactly a stooge of Putin.

    CygnusAnalogMan (9c66ec)

  130. I wonder if Trump’s legion of detractors realize who these people are that they’ve cast their lot with and what they truly represent?

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  131. It’s fascinating how concerned Trump’s most loyal fans are that Obama promised increased flexibility to a complaining Russia. All that actually proves is that Obama wasn’t giving Russia what they wanted at the time of that conversation.

    No, he waited until just after the election to betray Poland.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  132. President Trump’s already built way more wall than Meghan mcCain’s nasty cowardpig daddy ever did that’s for sure (beautiful barrier of peace)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  133. Shortly thereafter, knowing the US President was a weak sister, Putin intervened in Ukraine, annexed Crimea, and proceeded to make trouble in the rest of Ukraine.

    But you are right. He waited until he put on the kneepads.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  134. I’m interested to know if you can point out any actual policy or actions that Trump has taken that benefit Russia since he took office.

    There’s a combination of actions and non-actions.
    1. Cutting and running from Syria.
    2. Cutting and running from Afghanistan (Putin has aligned with the Taliban).
    3. Failing to sanction the Putin regime on multiple occasions for various transgressions.
    4. Undermining NATO.
    5. Undermining our intelligence community regarding Putin’s unprecedented meddling in our elections.
    6. Undermining our National Security Strategy by calling Putin a “friend”.
    6. Withdrawing from TPP.
    7. Trump’s silence on the 24 Ukrainian sailors held hostage by Putin.
    8. Trump has not said one critical word of Putin since he went down the golden escalator. Bullies like Putin usually take words of accommodation for weakness.
    9. Trump’s false moral equivalencies regarding Russian and American journalists.
    10. Trump’s passiveness regarding Russians in Venezuela.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  135. obama didn’t give a flip about defending america’s interests that’s for sure and he threw israel into the genocide gutter, but President Trump did jerusalem embassy all up in it (much to Putin’s chagrin)

    and now everybody’s enjoying snacks and pop on the lido deck

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  136. Yes there are tripwires in the bill, such a giant Christmas fruitcake cant be helped

    Narciso (dd10e2)

  137. Trump has done nothing to fix the damage. North Korea, Iran, Europe, Russia, China

    Well, he actually has address China, and forthrightly. You may not like the way he did it, but the Chinese don’t either, so that’s a plus. Europe? Not sure what that issue is, except they are now paying more for the common defense.

    Russia? Trump’s policies have been mixed and confused, but generally more confrontational than Obama’s acquiescence to whatever Putin wanted.

    North Korea and Iran: Yes, I agree. North Korea would have a different government today had it been done my way. One of the two countries MUST have their nuclear ambitions stopped in detail, as a warning to others that the NNPT isn’t a dead letter, and North Korea is the hollow tiger.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  138. #140 I’m interested to know if you can point out any actual policy or actions that Trump has taken that benefit Russia since he took office.

    There’s a combination of actions and non-actions.
    1. Cutting and running from Syria.
    2. Cutting and running from Afghanistan (Putin has aligned with the Taliban).
    3. Failing to sanction the Putin regime on multiple occasions for various transgressions.
    4. Undermining NATO.
    5. Undermining our intelligence community regarding Putin’s unprecedented meddling in our elections.
    6. Undermining our National Security Strategy by calling Putin a “friend”.
    6. Withdrawing from TPP.
    7. Trump’s silence on the 24 Ukrainian sailors held hostage by Putin.
    8. Trump has not said one critical word of Putin since he went down the golden escalator. Bullies like Putin usually take words of accommodation for weakness.
    9. Trump’s false moral equivalencies regarding Russian and American journalists.
    10. Trump’s passiveness regarding Russians in Venezuela.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/15/2019 @ 10:10 am

    Paul… none of those really is an argument that proves that Trump is some “agent of Trump” nor behaviors that indicates that Trump is an unwilling agent by way of kompromat over his head.

    They’re *his* policy directions or Trump’s brash personality (ie, always wanting to be right).

    whembly (b9d411)

  139. lol… funny typo of “agent of Trump” should’ve been “agent of Russia”.

    But, hey… I still think that works.

    whembly (b9d411)

  140. Well Russian journalists are on balance dead serious they have to be, Matt taibbi nor mark Ames by contrast werent worth the bother.

    Narciso (dd10e2)

  141. JRH–Donald Trump was elected president. McCabe and Rosenstein aren’t even elected dogcatchers, yet they think it’s appropriate to try to carry out a coup against the elected official based on paid-for election opposition reports and some offhand comment by the President? If that’s what passes for analytical thinking at the FBI, we have even bigger problems than we thought, and I wonder how they even manage to find and arrest garden average criminals, much less the Russians that are apparently hiding under all of our beds.

    Rochf (877dba)

  142. ((I’m interested to know if you can point out any actual policy or actions that Trump has taken that benefit Russia since he took office.))

    There’s a combination of actions and non-actions.
    1. Cutting and running from Syria.

    We went there to kill ISIS, something Obama would not touch. ISIS is dead or captured. Why stay? To get involved in the civil war directly? No thanks.

    2. Cutting and running from Afghanistan (Putin has aligned with the Taliban).

    We ahven’t left, but it’s been 18 years of whack-a-mole, and unless we are willing to change strategies what’s the point? Also, I doubt the Taliban has aligned with Putin.

    3. Failing to sanction the Putin regime on multiple occasions for various transgressions.

    But doing so on others. This is a “gap” argument, where attempting to fill a gap just makes two gaps.

    4. Undermining NATO.

    By insisting they pay their fair share. Which they are now doing. Trump calls it “strengthening NATO”. Potayto potahto.

    5. Undermining our intelligence community regarding Putin’s unprecedented meddling in our elections.

    Interference attempted does not mean interference effected. At best, you can claim that somebody released uncomfortable truths into the election that harmed one side. Tough tootsies, and most of it came from that campaign’s own computers.

    6. Undermining our National Security Strategy by calling Putin a “friend”.

    This seems stretched. If Trump said “My friend” to you, you’d check your wallet.

    6. Withdrawing from TPP.

    The other “6”. TPP was terrible. Good riddance.

    7. Trump’s silence on the 24 Ukrainian sailors held hostage by Putin.

    Small potatoes. A big deal would be Obama’s silence on a whole attempted revolution in Iran.

    8. Trump has not said one critical word of Putin since he went down the golden escalator. Bullies like Putin usually take words of accommodation for weakness.

    Speak softly…

    9. Trump’s false moral equivalencies regarding Russian and American journalists.

    No journalist deserves the kind of thing Putin does. But they are all scum.

    10. Trump’s passiveness regarding Russians in Venezuela.

    And if he had been interventionist THAT would have been your #10.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  143. 140. Paul Montagu (0eb929) — 2/15/2019 @ 10:10 am

    10. Trump’s passiveness regarding Russians in Venezuela.

    he’s passive with regard to Venezuela?

    I don’t think you’ll be able to make the case that Trump has been favorable to Russia in everything. because that’s not true.

    Trump has seen a lot of people from Venezuela, and his sympathies have been stirred up, and he’s actually letting Marco Rubio direct policy there.

    And how was he favorable to Russia? What? That he didn’t force down the plane taking the gold from Venezuela? If in fact any gold was physically transported.

    Trump stood tough when he refused Maduro’s order to remove the embassy staff. This set up a pre-war situation. And they know they will lose (the first round) if there is any shooting. and a second round , like in Iraq, or Syria, is not likely to be alllowed to get started.

    Here is the situtaion:

    If Maduro moved against the embassy, there’d be an invasion to “protect” them. And the same thought is protecting Juan Guaido from arrest or assassination. While Guaido’s declaration of being president could have been prevented by Maduro, it took Maduro (and many on the opposition) by surprise, but it makes legal sense, and here we are..

    Now both sides are making moves with the constraint that shooting is avoided. Guaido because he doesn’t really have the support from the U.S. for an invasion (yet) and because he doesn
    t want to get people killed, and Maduro and his backers (Russia, Cuba, Iran, China, Nicaragua,
    Syria and Hezbollah) because they don’t want to trigger an invasion and because many of his troops may not follow orders and will defect instead. It’s not like they’re even getting paid..

    It’s sort of a little like the Great Secession Winter of 1860-1 before Fort Sumter or the phony war of 1939-1940. They’re playing chess.

    What Guiado was last trying to is deliver some humanitarian aid (food and medicine) to venezuala, and Maduro (who can’t possibly be devising his own strategy – he’s too dumb) responded by blocking the road that crosses the border. Now Guiado will try the Brazlian border.

    Now, they think this will be easier than it is. Guiado expected defections from the army. Well, it didn’t apppen so fast in Libya and in Syria and there there was an “Arab Spring” in the air.

    They were really counting on the army defecting. that should have been allowed to happen in 2002. Maduro depends on foreigners, who have positions in his security service. I think it’s been estimated 15,000 of them.

    Still, I think he will eventually get some defections, especially if there any shooting.

    The differences from Syria are:

    1) There is no talk of a negotiated “political solution.”

    2) The opposition will get unlimited military aid, and maybe even some outright help in combat

    3) There is no anti-liberty, anti-democracy third force to join in, as there was with Hezbollah (and later Iraniana and Russian troops) in Syria, or Islamicists in Libya, and no neighboring country to smuggle in arms and men.

    The best they have got is mainly Columbian narco-guerillas. And these are peope that the United States will fight against. Trump will treat them like ISIS in Syria and not like Hezbollah. Hezbollah is also in Venezuela – not hat many men – but the U.S. will take a Hezbollah presence in Venezuela a whole lot more seriously than it did a hezbollah resence in Syria. Monroe Doctrine and all that for one thing. Maybe you can argue against the Monroe Doctrine, but it’s a point.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  144. Mike Flynn was suspected of having been recruited by the GRU while he was head of the DIA, (partly because he paid avoisit to GRU headquarters and wanted them to come here, and partly because of some policy positions he advocated) and that’s why Obama fired him;”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-intel-group-trump.html

    Michael T. Flynn was a man seething and thwarted. In the summer of 2014, after repeatedly clashing with other Obama administration officials over his management of the Defense Intelligence Agency — and what he saw as his unheeded warnings about the rising power of Islamic militants — Mr. Flynn was fired, bringing his military career to an abrupt end….

    …Mr. Flynn believed that Moscow could be cultivated as an ally against Islamist militants. As director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he had even visited the headquarters of the G.R.U., the Russian military intelligence service.

    His colleagues in the American intelligence community took a less favorable view, especially when he continued to push for closer ties after Russia’s seizure of Crimea in 2014. They believed Mr. Flynn was willing to be used by Russia if he could advance his views on forging a united front to battle the Islamic State.

    https://themoscowproject.org/collusion/michael-flynn-meets-g-r-u-moscow/

    In 2013, Flynn took a delegation to Moscow to meet with the G.R.U., despite the C.I.A.’s concerns. Flynn arranged the trip to Moscow “to speak to a group of officers from the G.R.U., Russia’s intelligence agency, about leadership development. His decision to go was a controversial one. Flynn believed that there were opportunities to find common ground with Russia.” Flynn wanted to visit the G.R.U. again and invited G.R.U. officers to come to the U.S., but “permission was denied.”

    In February 2014, six months before the Obama administration fired Flynn, he traveled to Cambridge University as the head of D.I.A. to speak at the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar, an organization that last year was hit with allegations of being open to “unacceptable Russian influence,” leading a group of intelligence experts—including the former head of MI-6—to cut ties with the group. He also met with a Russian-British national Svetlana Lokhova and he subsequently remained in email contact with Lokhova, an “expert on Soviet intelligence in the 1930s.” The Wall Street Journal reported that, according to U.S. intelligence rules, Flynn should have disclosed his interactions with Lokhova, but he failed to do so. (As the Guardian has reported, “there is no suggestion that Lokhova has ever worked with or for any of the Russian intelligence agencies.”)

    These events did not escape the notice of the U.S. intelligence community, which increasingly grew wary of Flynn’s foreign contacts. The Guardian reported that “multiple sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the C.I.A. and F.B.I. were discussing this episode, along with many others, as they assessed Flynn’s suitability to serve as national security adviser.” Flynn was reportedly bitter and angry when he was eventually pushed out of the D.I.A. in August 2014. He subsequently became a contributor to RT, where he “often [argued] that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syria’s civil war.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/14/2019 @ 5:15 pm

    Wait… so you’re saying that 0bama was insincere when he said “tell Vlad I can be more flexible after the [2012] election”?

    He said flexible. He didn’t say he’d let him do or get anything he wanted.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  145. After the Love Has Gone After teh Coup Has Gone Earth Wind and Liars

    For awhile, vote Trump was all we could do
    We were tired and we knew
    That our hopes were alive

    Deep inside we knew, won’t be caught dead voting blue
    For awhile, we paid no mind to the fuss
    knew it would get sussed
    And we laughed, just felt so right
    A new dawn to begin the day

    [Pre-Chorus]
    Something happened along the way
    Russian Collusion they brayed
    Something strange done ev’ry day
    But Strzok n’ Page they got laid

    [Chorus]
    And, oh, after the coup has gone
    Guy looks like Stang’s still on
    Is this Barr set that low?
    Oh, oh, oh, after the coup has gone
    What has been done is wrong
    Can trust that’s lost be found?

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  146. @ Whembly –
    There’s a combination of actions and non-actions.
    1. Cutting and running from Syria.

    Ditto on pretty much what Kevin pointed out, but I’d point out that Trump has taken advice from Graham, etc on the whole withdrawal strategy, etc. I think we need to have contingencies to defend the Kurds from the Syrians but we can do that with our force in Iraq. I really don’t want to get sucked into a new civil war in Syria especially when it will be a rehash of Iraq with much less strategic worth.

    2. Cutting and running from Afghanistan (Putin has aligned with the Taliban).

    Ditto on Kevin’s take – whack-a-mole season is over.

    5. Undermining our intelligence community regarding Putin’s unprecedented meddling in our elections.

    Since that determination that Russia interfered with our elections was lead by those Keystonian paragons of virtue Clapper/Brennan, I take that with a massive grain of salt. The whole purpose of that determination was to insinuate that Russian interference by helping Wikileaks release the emails was that it positively affected the election, Trump knew about it and therefore his election was illegitimate. Wasn’t it in the public interest to know that the DNC and the Clinton Campaign were in bed together to tilt the primaries in her favor? It’s analogous to the Pentagon Papers. Just because your gal got shafted by a legitimate dirty trick doesn’t mean it wasn’t good for the public to know this.

    7. Trump’s silence on the 24 Ukrainian sailors held hostage by Putin.

    That’s a delicate situation where the less publicly said, the better. If he was belligerent and demanding the release of sailors and threatening severe consequences if not, you’d call him an unhinged warmonger. Make up your mind.

    9. Trump’s false moral equivalencies regarding Russian and American journalists.
    He’s done nothing near what Putin does to critical journalists and because he is critical of their Democratic talking point cheerleading, especially Acosta, etc, they somehow are the same? Has he jailed any journalists, activists or bloggers (Ohhh, that’s right, Obama was the one to jail the Muslim video dude on a pissant parole violation, my bad!)

    CygnusAnalogMan (9c66ec)

  147. How is this a coup? Trump admitted he fired Comey over a criminal investigation. Everyone who isn’t 100% in the bag for the GOP has been considering the terrible situation of an executive who obstructs justice. Removal from office is a matter of common sense. The only person responsible for Trump’s problems is Trump. Granted, he wouldn’t be president if he hadn’t worked with our Russian enemies, and granted the democrats would oppose him if he were clean, but he is not clean, he did work with the Russians, and pretending he’s some innocent victim is exactly what the democrats want of the GOP.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  148. it’s a coup the same way pornography is pornographic cause it makes you feel dirty

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  149. Trolling Level: Low to Intermediate

    Colonel Haiku (fd5d8b)

  150. lisa page dirty like you’ve been used

    and you liked it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  151. Mccabe should not be talking period. Whether Trump is innocent and it’s a coup, or whether he’s guilty and the FBI has him dead to rights, this self-aggrandizing moron should keep his big stupid trap shut until this sh*t show is over.

    JRH (fe281f)

  152. @91. “Meow.” – Bob Newhart, MTM tag,’Bob Newhart Show’ CBS TV, 1972-78.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. @49. You really don’t understand what’s going on here, do you; ‘The Plan’ is going just fine.

    “That’s The Way I Like It.” – K.C. & The Sunshine Band, 1975

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  154. I’ll tell you one thing about that Scott Pelly guy, he’s got a chin on him. That’s a MANS CHIN BY GOD.

    Thud Muffle (5a4596)

  155. Paul… none of those really is an argument that proves that Trump is some “agent of Trump” nor behaviors that indicates that Trump is an unwilling agent by way of kompromat over his head.

    Non-sequitur.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  156. So… during that 2016 and since, the FBI knew that the Russians were trying to influence the US elections. They also knew that Trump was openly calling on them to “find emails” etc. They knew that multiple Trump campaign officials and supporters were actually meeting and contacting Russians WHILE THEY LIED ABOUT IT to both the FBI and the public at large.

    So… now Trump supporters think that the FBI is the problem…. and Lindsey Graham thinks this is a wild conspiracy to steal the Presidency FROM trump??

    noel (e07fb0)


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