Patterico's Pontifications

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

Dave (1bb933) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:38 am

I hope everyone has loved ones to be with today.

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:40 am

Same to you and all who post here.

Stu707 (3a9737) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:47 am

Happy Thanksgiving, Dana and everybody. I will be with my daughter and her mother and family friends. We’re invited this year, so I don’t have to cook. Just look nice.

nk (dbc370) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:48 am

I’ve been repeating for the past couple of months a joke nk wrote here, about the 100 year old guy being interviewed by the local newspaper reporter about the secret to his longevity. When he says the secret is not arguing with idiots, the reporter says, “That’s preposterous, that can’t explain your longevity! What’s the real reason?” the fellow answers, “You know, you’re absolutely right, that’s not it at all, and I haven’t a clue.”

Regardless of the reasons for my longevity as a commenter here, today I’m disinclined to argue with anyone. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, and may your contemplation of your blessings include a moment to consider this humble website as one of thousands of opportunities for free expression in this land of liberty purchased for us at such cost by our forebears.

Beldar (fa637a) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:56 am

Happy thanksgiving to all. I am thankful that my sister is working hard to deal with her depression she has been in and out of treatment the last year. I feel she is safe and am ready to go back to my mainland family. And happy birthday to my youngest daughter.

mg (ef2c8e) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:00 am

That is truly something to be thankful for, mg.

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:05 am

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
I got an ad from my old employer for their Black Friday sale. Which announced they are opening at 2 PM…
It hit me as I read it that there is no War on Christmas but there is a War Against Thanksgiving. And since many retailers follow its lead or (like my old employer) try to get a jump on it, Macy’s is a main culprit: it normalized these Thursday openings/open-all-night Black Friday hours.

So thank you to all of you who are not going shopping today.

kishnevi (a6653c) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:15 am

Kishnevi,

You’re welcome! No shopping, no Christmas lights, no Christmas decorations, nor anything red and green until December here! I like to extend my season of thankfulness as long as possible. A beautiful calm before the storm, if you will.

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:27 am

Thanks be to God.

Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:28 am

With God’s blessings to you and your loved ones. Happy Thanksgiving.

NJRob (4d595c) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:49 am

Best to all on Thanksgiving.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:59 am

Dana, I wonder if God ever gets tired of hearing Thank You?

mg (ebf6c2) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:11 am

Happy thanksgiving all.

Yes getting a head of oneself re christmas, good grief!

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:24 am

Dana, I wonder if God ever gets tired of hearing Thank You?

According to the Greeks, only “Kyrie eleison”.

nk (dbc370) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:26 am

It’s become a tradition for my sister to work the 8p to 6a overnight following Thankgiving dinner, mainly so as not to deal with the day crowd the following day.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:40 am

November 4, 1963:

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation:

Over three centuries ago, our forefathers in Virginia and Massachusetts, far from home in a lonely wilderness, set aside a time of thanksgiving. On the appointed day, they gave reverent thanks for their safety, for the health of their children, for the fertility of their fields, for the love which bound them together and for the faith which united them with their God.

So, too, when the colonies achieved their independence, our first President in the first year of his Administration proclaimed November 26, 1789, as “a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God” and called upon the people of the new republic to “beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions . . . to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue . . . and generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.”

And so too, in the midst of America’s tragic civil war, President Lincoln proclaimed the last Thursday of November 1863 as a day to renew our gratitude for America’s “fruitful fields,” for our “national strength and vigor,” and for all our “singular deliverances and blessings.”

Much time has passed since the first colonists came to rocky shores and dark forests of an unknown continent, much time since President Washington led a young people into the experience of nationhood, much time since President Lincoln saw the American nation through the ordeal of fraternal war . . . and in these years our population, our plenty and our power have all grown apace. Today, we are a nation of nearly two hundred million souls, stretching from coast to coast, on into the Pacific and north toward the Arctic, a nation enjoying the fruits of an ever-expanding agriculture and industry and achieving standards of living unknown in previous history. We give our humble thanks for this.

Yet, as our power has grown, so has our peril. Today, we give our thanks, most of all, for the ideals of honor and faith we inherit from our forefathers — for the decency of purpose, steadfastness of resolve and strength of will, for the courage and the humility, which they possessed and which we must seek every day to emulate. As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words but to live by them.

Let us therefore proclaim our gratitude to Providence for manifold blessings — let us be humbly thankful for inherited ideals — and let us resolve to share those blessings and those ideals with our fellow human beings throughout the world.

Now, Therefore, I, John F. Kennedy, President of the United States of America, in consonance with the joint resolution of the Congress approved December 26, 1941, 55 Stat. 862 (5 U.S.C. 87b) designating the fourth Thursday of November in each year as Thanksgiving Day, do hereby proclaim Thursday, November 28, 1963, as a day of national thanksgiving.

On that day let us gather in sanctuaries dedicated to worship and in homes blessed by family affection to express our gratitude for the glorious gifts of God, and let us earnestly and humbly pray that He will continue to guide and sustain us in the great unfinished tasks of achieving peace, justice and understanding among all men and nations and of ending misery and suffering wherever they exist.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States of America to be affixed.

Done at the City of Washington this fourth day of November, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States of America, the one hundred and eighty-eighth.

JOHN F. KENNEDY

By the President:

DEAN RUSK

Secretary of State

DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:41 am

But consulting the Greeks, is it bad form to look at sub 2.50/gallon gas in the mouth?

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:41 am

Our gallon prices are their liter (1.06 qt) prices, because of a gazillion percent fuel tax. Their pre-tax cost is lower than ours — they’re right by the oil ports and they have an island full of distilleries right outside Athens.

nk (dbc370) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:48 am

Why do you ask?

nk (dbc370) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:48 am

I didnt mean to address the situation particular to present day Greece, but thanks for the explanation. A coworker with roots in Epiros used to use the Greek fuel tax example to dampen other coworkers’ enthusiasm for socialized medicine i.e. “you would be paying 9.00 a gallon to pat for your free health care”!

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:59 am

My comment was meant as snide aside about gas being cheap on account of the present Administration’s good relations with Saud.

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 11:01 am

Because a number of us in mixed-political families are dreading the distinct possibility of guests bringing up politics at the dinner table, let’s make a concerted effort to keep this thread politics-free. And because we all have so many things to be grateful for, it shouldn’t be hard to do. Of course, being thankful for this forum (and forums like it), and the freedom to publicly opine, as Beldar reminds us, is always welcome.

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 11:10 am

15, nk
Indeed, Lord have mercy.

mg (ebf6c2) — 11/22/2018 @ 11:16 am

23. Trump Trump Trump Trump OBAMA Trump Trump Trump BUSH BUSH BUSH Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.

There, I got it out of my system. Now I can go and have a nice politics-free dinner. 😀

Gryph (08c844) — 11/22/2018 @ 11:18 am

God bless all those travelling to reunite with loved ones, and may the day be one of peace and amity. (And a special prayer for those unable to so reunite, for whatever reason; may God’s grace and love be with you if nobody else’s can.)

Stephen J. (f77922) — 11/22/2018 @ 11:39 am

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:15 pm

Better words to live by with reasonable people I will be reasonable and with unreasonable people I will be unreasonable!

lany (30f926) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:22 pm

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. It’s a good idea to heed Dana’s advice and avoid discussing politics at the family dinner table tonight.

Try discussing religion instead.

JVW (42615e) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:30 pm

55th anniversary of president kennedy assassination it has not been the same since. ask any second amendment supporter.

lany (30f926) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:34 pm

Lol, JVW!!

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:35 pm

Try discussing religion instead.

How about “As God is my witness, I thought Trump could fly”, just to mix everything up.

Kevin M (a57144) — 11/22/2018 @ 12:41 pm

Y’know, I never needed politics to trigger a good vein throbbing argument.

I am deeply thankful that I have a family I care enough about to have a nice large argument.

Appalled (1a17de) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:00 pm

When he was shot by the commie fmr marine

Narciso (69bae6) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:02 pm

OT… it hardly seems possible that it has been 55 years since the assassination of JFK. Most who are old enough to remember that day, know where they were and what they were doing. I was in the 6th grade on the playground after lunch and remember wacky Miss Bullock – much more restrained that Friday – calling us back into class. We had two TVs, one in each of the front corners of the room and remember watching Cronkite relaying what they knew all the way through the pronouncement of the President’s death. And then later on Sunday morning, sitting in the den with my dad, watching the TV, as we ate breakfast and seeing Oswald get shot live on the tube.

A very dark time in our history.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:10 pm

How about “As God is my witness, I thought Trump could fly”, just to mix everything up.

Lol!

Dana (023079) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:19 pm

@35. Hence my posting of President Kennedy’s Thanksgiving proclamation @#17, Haiku.

Vivid memories as well. Mostly sadness, tears and TeeVee. The long shadows of autumn didn’t help, either. Write down your memories for posterity- or pass a set along to the JFK Museum; they’ll keep it filed for posterity as well. Front pages of the NY Post & Daily News my father brought home from the city that day are still framed and up in the hallway. Television news came of age then in stark, black and white. The Oswald event remains memorable as well and always comes up at Thanksgiving family gatherings; about an hour before he was killed before our eyes, my mother was making pancakes and out of the blue said, ‘Wouldn’t it be funny if he was shot, too?’ – Then as my brother and I were watching: ‘bang!’ Wide-eyed, my brother and I looked at each other, dead certain ‘mothers’ knew ‘everything.‘

DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:26 pm

@36. LOL Dana- watching that episode of WKRP every Thanksgiving became a family tradition; it’s endlessly hilarious; ‘Oh, the humanity!‘

DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:29 pm

I was in the 1st grade, public school Orange County. Mrs King’s class.

Another teacher came in and said something to her and left.

Mrs King told us the President was very sick and asked us all to bow our heads and say a prayer.

A little bit later the same teacher came in crying and all the kids started crying. Mrs King said thePresident had died and school was over, they were calling our moms to come get us.

Mom came and picked up my sister and I. As we turned into our street Mrs Lalley was standing in the middle in the street shouting and dancing. Mom pulled up and said ‘did you hear what happened?’

Mrs Lalley said ‘Thank god they shot that Ni****r lover!’

My mom told her she was horrible and should shut up and get back in her house. I’m not sure if they ever spoke to each other again.

I can think of no better example of how far the Democratic Party has gone off the rails than by the fact JFK in 2018 would be considered by that party’s leaders as conservative and racist as Mrs Lalley.

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Sean Spicier
@sean_spicier
Happy Thanksgiving, folks! Also…On the anniversary of JFK’s death it’s important to realize that he would be laughed out of the 2020 Democrat primary

harkin (05cfd8) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:34 pm

@39. OTOH, Sean best keep in mind Melissa McCarthy laughed him right out of his job.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:38 pm

Thanks a spoof site, disco duck.

Narciso (69bae6) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:45 pm

Hank Hill: …since we had a Texan in the White House, not that Herbert Walker such and su…

Houseguest from Massachusetts: Ee killed ah JFK.

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 1:48 pm

40. OTOH, Sean best keep in mind……..

He wishes he had a dollar for every person who thinks he’s Sean Spicer.

harkin (05cfd8) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:02 pm

He did serve Turkey at a coast guard station.

Narciso (69bae6) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:13 pm

JFK was a bit of an exception. Boston Irish could be as bigoted as anyone. The Irish kids used to try to beat up my uncle almost everyday as he came home from school because he was Jewish. My uncle was about five years younger than JFK and two years older than RFK, so those kids were also close in age to the two Kennedys.

But as to the general bigotry of the Boston urban ethnics (not only the Irish), remember that Boston did not integrate its schools until the mid70s, and it wasn’t a very peaceful thing
Boston_desegregation_busing_crisis

kishnevi (dbdcc5) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:15 pm

Sorry, full link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_desegregation_busing_crisis

kishnevi (dbdcc5) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:15 pm

Happy Thanksgiving to all! And I’m grateful for this blog and all the hard work that goes into it by Patrick and Dana and JVW and all the other writers.

And for lots of other things, too, of course!

Have a happy day and eat all you want.

Patricia (3363ec) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:20 pm

So much so, that Boston’s ABC affiliate did not air the first several episodes of Welcome Back Kotter during fall of 1975 for fear of enraging viewers with the sight of an integrated classroom.

Chicago was able to defer its grand deseg plan and couched it in the guise of enabling students to seek out magnet (college prep), vocational and industrial arts programs under the Options for Knowledge Plan. Key difference between Boston, LA, and Cleveland was that it took care not to force white kids into buding to black neighborhood schools in the absence of specific academic programs http://tcf.org/content/report/chicago-public-schools/?sessio

urbanleftbehind (15162f) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:26 pm

39… ha! 6th grade at James Guinn Elementary on Sunkist in East Anaheim.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:35 pm

yes, well I worked in the broward schools for a number of years, and they are predominantly black and latino, in Miami dade, they’d be slightly reversed.

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:39 pm

OC was a Republican stronghold back then… everyone that I can recall mourned the loss of the POTUS. I remember my mother writing a sympathy letter to Mrs. Kennedy and an acknowledgement on WH stationary in return.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:41 pm

he was killed by a communist, but because it happened in dallas, they blamed the right, it just so happened that the soviets had put in a full dezinforma campaign, that oliver stone recycled nearly 30 years later, similar with the Hochhuth defamation of pope pius,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:46 pm

not to say he didn’t choose poorly, but it wasn’t as black and white as the deputy suggested,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:51 pm

I saw infernal affairs, the film series the departed ripoffed and executed poorly, from hong kong to boston, Scorsese frames Costello in the turmoil of the 70s, for no good reason

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 2:57 pm

Lou or Elvis?

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 3:07 pm

frank, Nicolson’s demonic encarnation of bulger, he had things so wired, there would never have been an infiltration of his organization,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 3:16 pm

it’s important to realize that he would be laughed out of the 2020 Democrat primary

And the 2020 GOP would call him an entitled elitist wimp, and say he’s no war hero because his boat sank.

Kevin M (a57144) — 11/22/2018 @ 3:23 pm

OC was a Republican stronghold back then

OC went for Goldwater in 1064.

Kevin M (a57144) — 11/22/2018 @ 3:24 pm

And again in 1964.

Kevin M (a57144) — 11/22/2018 @ 3:24 pm

we don’t have to imagine, that was jim webb’s position, jim who, on balance webb since somalia on, had put forth an anti interventionist position, although respect for the servicemen who fought said battles, there is no room for that in the modern democratic party,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 4:02 pm

yes but tammy duckworth, well how did she treat Illinois vets, re how McSally was treated,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 4:11 pm

now consider greatens, who certainly had some personal issues, a veteran from an unpopular war, like Truman, and how he fared, Truman couldn’t get elected nationwide on his own, because world war one seems muddled even though the us was a victor, similar with Korean war, one can’t recall a veteran of that conflict on a major ticket, take pat Robertson and ted kennedy, they both evaded that conflict,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 4:29 pm

most others will have the requisite Stahlian* spin:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/22/president-trump-visits-u-s-coast-guard-for-thanksgiving/

in the era before chyrons, she complained that her attacks didn’t work against Reagan’s visuals or something,

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 4:37 pm

can foggy bottom feel shame,:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/21/asia-bibi-family-being-hunted-house-to-house-in-pakistan?CMP=share_btn_tw

we know the foreign office can’t

narciso (d1f714) — 11/22/2018 @ 4:48 pm

Re your 62, maybe the subject of the intro of this post can break that cherry.

urbanleftbehind (6e0d10) — 11/22/2018 @ 5:10 pm

Well one compares with the civil war, which every president but one, Cleveland serves for forty years, ww2 was the comparable conflict from Eisenhower to Bush sr.

Narciso (cec761) — 11/22/2018 @ 5:45 pm

OC was a Republican stronghold back then

OC was a Republican stronghold until two years ago…just sayin’.

Dave (1bb933) — 11/22/2018 @ 5:53 pm

The tide began turning well before Trump, Dave.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 6:21 pm

That dates back to at least Dornan, if not sooner.

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/22/2018 @ 6:51 pm

Today I am thankful that retail workers all across this great land can resist the urge to stab any shopper in the eyeball who says to them “Oh, it’s such a shame you have to work today” as they unload their buggies full of crap at the checkout. Even though a good eyeball stabbing is so richly deserved by anybody so oblivious.

I am also thankful for all the nice people who have signed my petition calling for summary execution for the playing of Christmas music before Thanksgiving is even over. It restores my faith in humanity to know so many people firmly believe some things are just not to be tolerated by a decent society.

And perhaps most of all I am thankful I’ve reached the age where nobody expects me to do anything for Thanksgiving other than show up, eat more food than I should, then fall asleep on the couch while the kids take care of everything else. Age has its privileges and one of them is getting to nap whenever you damn well feel like napping.

Jerryskids (702a61) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:01 pm

Well Loretta Sanchez nearly stole the 96 election, she learned theiving skills since yhen

Narciso (ffa127) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:05 pm

But we might get a Loretta Sanchez one-off, Susana Mendoza, as Rahm 9 fingers’ replacement.

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:18 pm

She seems what passes for sensible, does she have an obscurus spell or what am I missing.

Narciso (ffa127) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:28 pm

Relative to who else is running, sure. I dont know if she has una naca gordita por su hermana, though.

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:38 pm

So all the politics you didn’t discuss with your grumpy uncle, you’re discussing here? I came close when we were watching the Macy’s parade after the Bears game and Bill Cosby was mentioned and I said it was the lynching of an uppity black man but I didn’t push it and we talked about more pleasant things.

nk (dbc370) — 11/22/2018 @ 7:53 pm

This is the cheers bar without the alcohol,

Narciso (e1024d) — 11/22/2018 @ 8:57 pm

69… yes, ulb. Dave’s fixation on Orange Man Bad blinds him to the point of distraction.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:05 pm

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/trumpturkeypardon

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:12 pm

Its come to this, apparently the origin was la county

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/11/thanksgiving-in-pictures-decline-and-fall-of-the-romaine-empire-edition.php

Narciso (e1024d) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:51 pm

Believe it or not i was at a civil thanksgiving dinner with the hard right wealthy and the liberal college nitwits. It was encouraging.

mg (ebf6c2) — 11/22/2018 @ 9:55 pm

We know behind the bluster mg you’re just a loveable fuzzball

Narciso (e1024d) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:04 pm

I was the cesspool of knowledge at the table, narciso.

mg (ebf6c2) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:29 pm

The word you are looking for is fountain.

Narciso (e1024d) — 11/22/2018 @ 10:36 pm

Dave’s fixation on Orange Man Bad blinds him to the point of distraction.

Good, bad, who cares. Orange Man Ineffective

Kevin M (a57144) — 11/23/2018 @ 1:11 am

hyperpolitical harvardtrash chief justice John Roberts i hope you had a tasty thanksgiving

happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:56 am

Except for rohrabacher did trump campaign for any of them, you don’t think the early call by fox, had an impact.

Narciso (a4c9e9) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:08 am

As long as we’re going with sheepshots
https://outline.com/4L2d7n

Narciso (a4c9e9) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:13 am

Double unplusgood by the times lights
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/11/getting-to-like-matt-whitaker-courtesy-of-the-washington-post.php

Narciso (a4c9e9) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:27 am

It’s not as much of a thing to show up in the PM in California, since there is no questions asked mail-in.

Mail-in voting is how the West (CA, or, wa, co)was lost

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:36 am

Good, bad, who cares. Orange Man Ineffective

And bad.

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:45 am

I’ll give you ineffective…

“…it’s taken nine years for state officials and utility industry experts to come up with a desperately needed map of fire-prevention measures in California’s many areas that are prone to conflagrations sparked by powerline and equipment failures. The recent Camp Fire that is now the worst-ever in California history was reportedly caused by failure of a PG&E powerline.

Outgoing Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown’s 12-year tenure overlapped with much of the growing wildfire problem, which he now ridiculously attributes to “climate change.” Between Brown’s incompetence and that of federal land managers driven by ludicrous environmentalist notions of forestry non-intervention, will California literally burn to the ground?”

Maybe this is all a part of the burn to the ground before it get better…

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/california-burns-as-gov-moonbeams-regulatory-capture-dawdles-look-no-further-than-california-fo/

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 7:18 am

Par for the course with mueller:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/22/mueller-credico-stone-wikileaks/

Narciso (6e3815) — 11/23/2018 @ 8:20 am

private

Sertyu (f9a627) — 11/23/2018 @ 8:44 am

They always hated America, what changed:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/06/28/life-with-father-2

Narciso (6e3815) — 11/23/2018 @ 8:58 am

It’s the day after Thanksgiving, so Trump’s comment about the 9th Circuit “overturned more than any circuit in the country, 79%” is false. Over the last five full years, three other circuit courts had higher overturned rates (link).

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:05 am

Just what eight years of Obama judges have wrought no surprise there.

Narciso (6e3815) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:16 am

It’s the day after Thanksgiving…

In defiance of all logic and common sense, I’m going to attempt to purchase something at IKEA today.

If I’m never heard from again, you’ll know why…

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:36 am

I don’t check hyperbolic-tinged off-the-cuff remarks often, but when I do, I usually go to teh Politifact. And when I don’t go there, I go to the Puffington Host.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:36 am

On those IKEA parts, just remember that 5 does not equal 4…

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:38 am

I go to the Puffington Host, I go to the Puffington Host.

Trump was fact-checked by Mr. Kellyanne Conway, a Republican, in the Huffington piece, but like our Thanksgiving gravy, bring on more ad hom.

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:41 am

Nice knowing you, dave,

Narciso (f8d04a) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:44 am

Just sayin’ Montagu…

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:47 am

Conway is just another chubby Orange Man Bad frother…

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:48 am

IKEA does produce some useful, functional furniture… not normally pleasing to the eye though.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:52 am

…not if you’re over 200 lbs, but the kitchen/ dining/bath getups are like Fiats, cool for city living.

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/23/2018 @ 9:56 am

…I’m going to attempt to purchase something at IKEA today.

Good luck. Make sure your FindPhone app is on and working so your family can triangulate your location. We’re going to pursue our Black Friday tradition of watching the Apple Cup, drinking a local microbrew, and not shopping.

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:04 am

Good one Paul, sucks that there’s not an additional round in the CFP for the Cougs.

urbanleftbehind (c40159) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:16 am

Chase For Cougar P***y?

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:28 am

91. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 7:18 am

Quoting pjmedia:

Outgoing Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown’s 12-year tenure overlapped with much of the growing wildfire problem, which he now ridiculously attributes to “climate change.”

Twelve years? It’s either 8 years or 16 years. He was elected first in 1974 and 1978, and then in 2010 and 2014.

He’s also known as Governor Methuselah.

Governor Browen said he didn;t argue with President trump because this was not the time to do it.

Incidentally, the major climate change is an increased variability of weather and not really extra heat, and that’s caused by water vapor whose distribution in the atmosphere is very uneven.

Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:28 am

Paul, sucks that there’s not an additional round in the CFP for the Cougs.
As a Husky fan (class of ’84), I have mixed feelings about that. I do tell my Coug friends that I’m a Cougar fan for 51 out of 52 weeks in a year. Generally speaking, I wouldn’t mind an 8-team tournament, or maybe six teams with the top two getting byes.

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:29 am

Generally speaking, I wouldn’t mind an 8-team tournament, or maybe six teams with the top two getting byes.

The Grand Daddy of ‘Em All (when they let the Big Ten and Pac Ten champions play each other and don’t *@#$ it up with this fake news BCS %@!#) will always be the national championship game as far as I’m concerned.

It’s cool if they wanna use the other bowls as a playoff system for the #3 team, though.

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:39 am

Yes brown is the gift that keeps on giving:

https://freebeacon.com/issues/california-agency-took-nine-years-create-fire-map/

Narciso (9f144f) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:14 am

It would have helped if Trump had said “clear underbrush and dead field flowers [that’s Californian for weeds, ed.]” instead of “rake the forest floor”.

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:20 am

I don’t think so, it’s the simplest way to describe it that has nothing to do with the preferred narrative.

Narciso (9f144f) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:23 am

200,000 minority kids turn voting age every month and these are citizens with ids. look what happened in arizona! voter suppression only goes so far. blacks did what it takes to vote for obama ;but not for hillary and tommie kaine who spoke mexcan which was supposed to be good enough for the latino vote. ( it wasn’t ) democrats won’t be running groper joe biden even if he thinks they will. more likely kamala harris with beto o’rourk to give the young latina’s hot flashes. whites will be less then 68% of voters. trump barely won with 71% of voters white.

lany (56b6fe) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:32 am

but beto o’rourke lost senate race to cruz beto will say lincoln lost his senate race to douglas.

lany (56b6fe) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:35 am

Elizabeth Kim was outspent by #metoo perpetrator Cisneros nearly 5/1, fell us again about citizen united.

Narciso (9f144f) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:47 am

Citizens United had nothing to do with hard money donations/spending by candidates.

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 11:58 am

What is the leftwing interpretation of what the ruling was all about, Dave?

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:02 pm

Beto is dead. Long live Robert Francis O’Rourke and his band of shamrock tuggers…

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:06 pm

Fascinating coronello this project began in the last year of Schwarzenegger but it took toll the end of this term

Narciso (9f144f) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:16 pm

I don’t think so, it’s the simplest way to describe it that has nothing to do with the preferred narrative.

Oh, come on! It was complete and utter ignorance.

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:26 pm

Nothing to see here:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-hamas-crowdsourcing-intel-from-israeli-public-with-photos-of-idf-in-gaza-raid-1.6679419

narciso (d1f714) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:28 pm

That’s not what I meant:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BryanDeanWright/status/1065995914488082432?p=v

narciso (d1f714) — 11/23/2018 @ 12:30 pm

Another day means another judge for Trump to have a tantrum about.

The New York state attorney general’s civil lawsuit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, President Donald Trump and his three eldest children can proceed after a state court judge on Friday denied their motion to dismiss the case.
In her decision, Justice Saliann Scarpulla ruled that a sitting president can face a civil lawsuit in state court for actions not taken in his official capacity. That ruling puts Scarpulla in agreement with another recent ruling against Trump, a decision in the defamation lawsuit brought against him by Summer Zervos, a former contestant on “The Apprentice.”

Link. The judge cited Clinton v. Jones as support.

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/23/2018 @ 1:21 pm

IKEA update: Great success!

I was in and out in five minutes. I highly recommend their Click and Collect service. You buy and pay for what you want on their website, and for a $5 service fee, they have it waiting for you on a cart ready to take to the car when you arrive at the store. No waiting at all any of the times I’ve used it.

Traffic was fairly mellow this Black Friday afternoon too, apart from South Coast Plaza, which looked like the Ninth Circle of Hell (two lanes of traffic each way backed up at the exit on the 405…).

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:24 pm

When you’re putting it together, use the tools they provided and know your own strength. Because when you’re torquing down on that blind bolt with your own 10-inch Master Mechanic chrome-plated ratchet wrench like it was a lugnut on your pickup and hear that crack, it will be too late.

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:47 pm

Apropos of nothing I saw that they are publishing the graphic novel of the William Gibson script for the sequel
to aliens, which they refused in lieu of the one on the prison planet

narciso (d1f714) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:57 pm

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:47 pm

That sounds suspiciously like the voice of experience.

Kishnevi (7ee5f0) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:05 pm

On that same apropos, Netflix has a Western, “The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs” (or something like that), purported to be by the Coen brothers but looks to be by Quentin Tarrantino. It’s six vignettes. I watched the first and didn’t like it, so I watched the second to give it a second chance. That one sucked more. Now I just want to forget it. Stupid Netflix!

And another thing. Do they have some rule that a proportion of male actors on Marvel derivatives have to be swishes? S-w-i-s-h-e-s. Not always explicitly gay, but gay-acting?

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:12 pm

That sounds suspiciously like the voice of experience.

It is.

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:16 pm

Well which ones, from iron fist and daredevil,

I really didn’t like pulp fiction, conversely true romance and inglorious bastards had some promise,

Narciso (8139ac) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:19 pm

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 5:47 pm

As it happens, the bookcase I picked up today is the *fourth* (identical) one I’ve bought in the last month, so I am getting very good at assembling them.

I bought several of the same model, but larger, many years ago and cluelessly assembled the first one “sideways” with the long boards running vertically instead of horizontally. It’s a bit less stable the others, but still functional after twenty years or so…

Dave (1bb933) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:19 pm

That’s why we need more engineers, less mathematicians!

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:32 pm

Actually, we need more of both.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:39 pm

Grammarians, too. That’s “fewer” mathematicians, not “less”, Haiku. “Less” is for quantity, “fewer” is for number.

nk (dbc370) — 11/23/2018 @ 6:51 pm

True, nk… it did not read well, but I chose to forego correcting my error and hit the hot tub instead. We need to light a fire under the backsides of our young to somehow convince them that there is no future or gainful employment to be found sitting on one’s fat backside playing video games or glued to a smart device.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 7:14 pm

Now… back to my book… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/book.jpg

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 11/23/2018 @ 7:17 pm

Hres a charming vignette:

https://longreads.com/2018/11/21/eating-to-america/

Narciso (d5a5f2) — 11/23/2018 @ 10:49 pm

Granted, the latest poll on Espy v. Hyde-Smith dates back to mid-October, so hopefully the GOP candidate for US Senator in Mississippi does not have a double-digit lead. Her non-apology apology was pathetic, apologizing to those folks who felt offended and not for the content of what she actually said. Aside from the president himself, she represents the worst of this party. Her loss would be the party’s gain, IMO.
Now we know that Ms. Hyde-Smith came by her racism naturally, thanks to her parents for sending her to a private white-segregated school. And today we learn that she promoted a racially-tinged bill.

Mississippi Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith once promoted a measure that praised a Confederate soldier’s effort to “defend his homeland” and pushed a revisionist view of the Civil War.

This is just as bad as Alabama Republicans picking Roy Moore.

Paul Montagu (70fe18) — 11/24/2018 @ 6:33 pm

McDaniel hasn’t learned his lesson, he brings the race far too close.

Narciso (ab2c32) — 11/24/2018 @ 6:51 pm

Also, not enough suburb in the ‘sipp.

urbanleftbehind (111d3a) — 11/24/2018 @ 6:56 pm

She’s fared well in most other campaigns when she was a yellow dog, of the school of lott.

Narciso (ab2c32) — 11/24/2018 @ 7:05 pm

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