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8/31/2018

Fella with Ties to White Supremacists Attended White House Meetings

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:11 am



Only the best people:

In one email from 2015, Smith responded to a group dinner invitation whose host said his home would be “judenfrei,” a German word used by the Nazis during World War II to describe territory that had been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.

“They don’t call it Freitag for nothing,” Smith replied, using the German word for “Friday,” according to the Atlantic. “I was planning to hit the bar during the dinner hours and talk to people like Matt Parrot, etc.,” Smith added, a reference to the former spokesman for the neo-Nazi Traditionalist Worker Party.

. . . .

The emails cited by the Atlantic do not include any explicitly racist statements made by Smith, but they do suggest he was comfortable enough within the milieu of American white nationalism to refer to its leading figures on a first-name basis.

In one 2015 email, for example, Smith explains that he missed an event hosted by “NPI,” the National Policy Institute founded by white supremacist Richard B. Spencer.

He wasn’t the top guy but he wasn’t nobody:

Though Smith was not assigned a supervisory position at DHS, he “wasn’t just some low-level schlub who didn’t do anything,” according to one government official familiar with his work for the administration. … On repeat occasions, they said, Smith attended immigration meetings at the White House convened by senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller, attending at times in place of his supervisor, Michael Dougherty, the DHS assistant secretary for border, immigration and trade policy.

How did this guy get his job to begin with?

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

69 Responses to “Fella with Ties to White Supremacists Attended White House Meetings”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. I suppose we can connect the dots about Mr. Smith’s views about mischlings, but we might need some clarification as to whether he believes European Jews are white.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  3. Oh, and let’s not forget the white-nationalist speechwriter that Trump had to fire earlier this month.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  4. In one email from 2015, Smith responded to a group dinner invitation whose host said his home would be “judenfrei,” a German word used by the Nazis during World War II to describe territory that had been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.

    No, the word actually was “judenrein” – but after all these are not real Nazis, but imitation ones.

    It may also, maybe more probably, be that Ian M. Smith deliberately wanted to avoid using the exact same word, so as to give himself sort sort of deniability. To allow himself to claim to be a Nazi substitute word -, and deny it all at the same time, depending on whom he’s talking to.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  5. These are the kinds of people who have atached themselves to anti-illegal immigration thins.

    We’ve got some real violence now in Germany.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/world/europe/germany-neo-nazi-protests-chemnitz.html

    The crowd this time was 8,000-strong. Led by several hundred identifiable neo-Nazis, it appeared to be joined by thousands of ordinary citizens. More marches are planned Saturday.

    The city had never seen anything like this — and, to some degree, neither had post-World War II Germany. The rampage now stands as a high-water mark in the outpouring of anti-immigrant hatred that has swelled as Germany struggles to absorb the nearly one million asylum seekers who arrived in the country after Chancellor Angela Merkel decided to open the borders in 2015.

    This is what you get when you allow people to pick out a crime and then blame the existence of a group of people to whom the perpetrator belongs to for the crime and for all crimes. This is evil.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  6. So what does the appointment of a hard cider distiller to inspect apples have to do with the goings on in a citrus farm (, narciso)? Call me when rehabilitated Lee Baca or Jessica Alba’s dad (a hard ass Marine who rips his “own people”,even as a guest at awards shows) is the replacement for Tom Homan.

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  7. So you concur secure borders has to be racist,

    Why would I concur with that? And what does Mr. Claver-Carone have to do with anything?

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  8. Because that is the implication of the post, who got it from the Atlantic who got it from who knows where.

    Claverone is why I voted for him, as opposed who barely knows where Cuba Is,

    Narciso (6ca998)

  9. This is the kind of tuff person we need to go after illegal alien children with out being squeamish about it.

    lany (d52cc7)

  10. So you concur secure borders has to be racist,

    I love nothing more than the “So you think [insert something I don’t think and never said]” form of argument.

    So honest! So respectful!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  11. Because that is the implication of the post

    Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  12. So unlike the dhs directives that were right out of splc and cair (the organizers of the two woman’s marchers)

    Narciso (6ca998)

  13. Because that is the implication of the post, who got it from the Atlantic who got it from who knows where.

    Um, no, it’s really not the implication of the post, but why don’t you explain?

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  14. The bezos piece sorry, which has managed to bury quite a number of significant pieces on immigration,

    Brimelow used to write for national review 20 years ago, that how Ludlow knows him.

    Narciso (6ca998)

  15. The bezos piece sorry, which has managed to bury quite a number of significant pieces on immigration,

    Um, so you got nothing, i.e., no actual evidence that would refute the story.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  16. OMG, he has “Ties”.

    Sounds like Joe McCarthy would approve.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  17. That being said, he definitely seems to be working for the will Farrell medal for stupidity.

    Narciso (b18030)

  18. I think we need to identify anyone who ever talked to – or was in the same room – with anyone the SPLC describes as a “White nationalist” and “Re-educate” them.

    Maybe in “camps”. But I would prefer to call them “Fun Farms”.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  19. Stalin had a lot of “Fun farms”.

    And boy did people get their “Minds Right”.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  20. I am not aware of any allegations that Trump was a racist or white nationalist before the election. He even won an award from Jesse Jackson’s group.

    So I’m not defending this guy who works for DHS or whoever hired him. I’m sure people with horrid ideology (like Van Jones) made it into the White House and were then fired. Are you saying Trump is a white nationalist?

    Patricia (3363ec)

  21. Trump may not support white supremacists. But he’s never said much against them (to me this is because he’s an idiot, not because he’s a white supremacist). Like the famous “good people on both sides” remark.
    But white supremacists support Trump pretty solidly and openly.

    kishnevi (85dd8d)

  22. Also either Nazis are being more open or the media is more focused on finding them.
    Today I saw a article which discussed the mayoral race in Hilton Head SC. One candidate is a Holocaust denier. Another admired Hitler’s leadership qualities. To be fair to Hilton Head, the other candidates reacted pretty negatively to this information.

    kishnevi (85dd8d)

  23. They don’t call it Freitag for nothing,” Smith replied, using the German word for “Friday,” according to the Atlantic. “I was planning to hit the bar during the dinner hours and talk to people like Matt Parrot, etc.,” Smith added, a reference to the former spokesman for the neo-Nazi Traditionalist Worker Party.

    Heh! The etymology of Freitag is from Frigg, Odin’s wife — “Frigg’s day”. I wonder what kind of bar he and Matt Parrot hit and what they did besides talk.

    nk (dbc370)

  24. Larry Kudlow, Trump Adviser, Hosted White Nationalist Publisher At Home: Report

    The publisher of a white nationalist, anti-immigration website was a guest in the home of President Donald Trump’s top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow. Kudlow told The Washington Post he did not know about Peter Brimelow’s racist beliefs when he had him over to his house on Monday for his birthday party. “If I had known this, we would never have invited him,” Kudlow told the publication… – WaPo.com

    “Snowman! You got your ears on?!” The Bandit [Burt Reynolds] ‘Smokey And The Bandit’ 1977

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. The latter recall the way they found the one one oddball at the tea party meetings, that was weigels whole shtick, meanwhile confirmed communist revolutionary and 9/11 denialist van Jones was out in a,weekend and was rehabilitated (in so far as CNN is rehabilitation in record time.

    Narciso (b18030)

  26. I explained brimelov long association, what no ira kneecappers or trotskyites in your social circle disco.

    Narciso (b18030)

  27. @28. The endless whine of the Colludin’ Cuban. Bitter dregs. Pink knickers in a twist; red wine w/fish.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. Of course if guilt by association all off a sudden matters to you, check out the bylines history

    Narciso (b18030)

  29. Speaking of racial supremacy, is it racist to laugh at this:

    Christopher Franko
    @FrankoCurrency
    States with the highest dui rate. They also have something else in common as well.. I’ll give you hint…
    Wyoming: 1.17%
    Idaho: 0.78%
    Alaska: 0.75%
    Nebraska: 0.71%
    South Dakota: 0.70%
    Wisconsin: 0.67%
    Arizona: 0.61%
    North Dakota: 0.58%
    New Mexico: 0.56%
    Nevada: 0.56%
    __ _

    David Palmer
    @DavidPalmer6
    Replying to
    @FrankoCurrency
    and
    @voxdotcom
    They all have Indian reservations.

    __

    Full disclosure I’m part Injun but I’d hazard to guess it has more to do with the number of miles the average resident drives.

    And yes, I laughed.

    harkin (0f0199)

  30. I would say just hang him, we don’t need any revision of policy:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/author/ian-smith/

    Narciso (b18030)

  31. They probably moved to Hilton Head to get the HHI car sticker (outer banks NC has the famed OBX sticker which comes standard with Suburu Outbacks and Honda CRVs).

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  32. 32, that is just the ability to walk AND chew gum, and one of the few areas Sessions is the better in, he always couches his policies and tactics in terms of jobs and adherence to law and rarely though coded racial superiority.

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  33. Ot, now that Emma stone seems to have left him, gosling lost his mind.

    Narciso (b18030)

  34. When black Twitter isn’t cropping out Louie Calypso, they always remind us that Gosling was a liability at cornerback.

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  35. It’s not supposed to be that a authentic a film is it.

    Narciso (b18030)

  36. But will it keep the Levin cohort at home or push them into the arms of R?

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  37. I am not aware of any allegations that Trump was a racist or white nationalist before the election.

    Trump is white and he’s a nationalist but, to me, the jury is out as to whether he’s a white nationalist. However, he has no problem spouting white nationalist propaganda, such as his false claim about “large-scale killings” of white farmers in South Africe, which is provably a crock. How many more Stormfront-friendly comments does he have to add to his body of work to convince his supporters that he’s a racist? To me, he’s said and done enough.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  38. Except even Newsweek admits there is a dead farmer every five days, i’m surprised it took 25 years to go to Zimbabwe status.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  39. The sainted new York Times denied the holomodor, Schoenberg was skeptical of the first reports of year zero.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  40. Thatcher looked the other way in the matabdle massacre in the mid 80s, I guess that was also a figment, I related an account by some missionaries that had their entire congregation wiped out but the European powers looked the other way because it implicates mugabe.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  41. I make my judgments on what people do, Montagu, not what we imagine they are thinking.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  42. I make my judgments on what people do, Montagu, not what we imagine they are thinking.

    That’s good, Patricia, because the links showed what Trump said and did, not what was just swirling in that brain of his.

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  43. “Hey Trump, That David Duke is a real bad dude huh?”

    “Well uh hmmm ummmm uhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmm can’t say!”

    Yeah, after a while Trump was forced to distance himself from the white supremacy movement, but he clearly did so as little as possible and only to the extent he’s forced to.

    And then there’s the legal settlement, when the apartments Trump was president of were rather openly discriminating against black tenants. They had to pay a lot of cash for that, much as Trump has had to pay to settle frauds of so many different varieties. There are few men shown to be dishonest or corrupt as often as Trump, so why are we giving him the benefit of the doubt? Because Team R.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  44. Trump’s remarks appear to have gotten South Africa to back off from passing a law allowing them to take farmer’s property without compensation.

    Do you have a problem with that Paul?

    NJRob (b00189)

  45. When leftists tried the same chickensh*t racist accusations on Ronald Reagan he easily smacked them down:

    Q. Mr Reagan, David Duke of the KKK has announced his support for your campaign. Dose that mean your candidacy is tainted with racism?

    A. No. David Duke supports me, I don’t support him. That’s the difference.

    ropelight (aa9dfe)

  46. So where is said smackdown, shit even one from Eric T. or nuevo salsero Junior would probably do. Not likely, that’s his electoral lifeblood, the people who didn’t vote at all from 2000 to 2012, or not at all before 2016.

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  47. The South African land seizures remind me of Hoagie. He warned us about this months, maybe a year or more, ago. I think he said his family has been directly affected.

    DRJ (15874d)

  48. Are you trying to be more cryptic than me?

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  49. Trump and his father settled a housing discrimination suit with the government, so he has a history of racial discrimination.

    DRJ (15874d)

  50. I’m not trying to be cryptic. Paul and NJRob were discussing South Afican land issues and it reminded me of stories Hoagie told, including about the murders of his relatives.

    DRJ (15874d)

  51. No ulb my family has a little acquaintance with said practices.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  52. Well, also the post Rhodes English diaspora tended to fashion themselves as enlighted folk v. those almost literally inbred Afrikaaners.

    urbanleftbehind (67d95e)

  53. Do you have a problem with that Paul?

    No, I have a problem with Trump making provably false statements “large-scale killings”, which is white-nationalist agitprop. I don’t have a problem with the SA government backing off their proposal to take land without just compensation. If you have to lie to make an argument, then you don’t have a very good argument to start with, do you?

    Paul Montagu (9dcfd2)

  54. The land grab worked so well in Zimbabwe… because everyone knows that any party operative can farm as least as well as the guy whose family has been farming for centuries.
    I suggest enslaving white farmers and forcing them to run the operation in return for a shack and some gruel

    steveg (a9dcab)

  55. When leftists tried the same chickensh*t racist accusations on Ronald Reagan he easily smacked them down:

    Q. Mr Reagan, David Duke of the KKK has announced his support for your campaign. Dose that mean your candidacy is tainted with racism?

    A. No. David Duke supports me, I don’t support him. That’s the difference.

    Great line. That illustrates, as well as anything I can think of, the difference between a great man like Reagan and a lowlife immoral piece of rat excrement like Donald “Who’s David Duke? I can’t hear you” Trump.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  56. And no I am not serious.
    There are more than a few Rhodesians here in town who fled before things got out of hand.
    One was Rhodesian SAS. Interesting guy. Ate rotten baboon after being starved for days. You can boil a rotten baboon and eat the meat, but if you try boiling and eating it a second time, you’ll poison yourself.

    Good to know

    steveg (a9dcab)

  57. Why would you boil it twice.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  58. @35.Ot, now that Emma stone seems to have left him, gosling lost his mind.

    OT back at ‘ya.

    Whaddya expect: he’s Canadian.

    Besides, it’s classic Hollywood publicity move 101.

    Michael Collins designed the flight patch for Apollo 11. There is no U.S. flag in it, either. Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins also made a deliberate decision not to have their names on their flight patch- a nod to the “for all ‘mankind'” aspect of it. And NASA management directed a change in the insignia, having the Eagle carrying an olive branch, a universal symbol of peace, in the talons, so as not to appear so menacing [Collins noted in his book ‘Carrying The Fire’ noted it really should have been in the bird’s beak.]

    But w/o getting into the weeds on this myopic topic, the rednecks at RedState, and the kneejerk dummies at Fox & Friends and ‘ass’orted blogs etc., aren’t exactly up to speed on the matter, either. The decision for Apollo 11 to carry and plant the U.S. flag on the moon wasn’t finalized until just a few weeks before the flight. So late in planning, in fact, that the slim, rectangular ‘carrier’ for the flag and staff was attached to the backside of the LM ladder. Weight was always a factor. [Later flights had it stored in the MESA of the LM.] There was strong internal debate over whether to use the U.N. flag, concerns about projecting a ‘claim of ownership’ and so forth. But to boil off the fat, ultimately it came down to acknowledging it was the American people who committed to the project [with support that waxed and waned over the decade BTW] financed it [Project Apollo was paid for back in those days, kids] and earned the right to have that recognized. Apollo 11 did carry flags to the moon and back from most, but not all, of the nations existing on Earth in 1969 w/only a few exceptions- notably Red China and one or two others.

    But if you’re a partisan weenie into controversy, the big one was from The Big Dick himself, who has his signature etched into the commemorative plaque attached to the Eagle but had little to do w/Apollo and nixed plans to use the USS John F. Kennedy as a recovery ship and had the USS Hornet sent instead. His phone call to the crew during the moonwalk was a bit controversial at the time as well.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  59. What is up with this thread and all the alt-neo-kkk lite sympathy, or at least apologists?

    Oops, the dog whistle administration has had to fire 2 guys this month who are at best affiliated with those racist scumbags, at worst actually part of the “movement”. Those are things that actually happened, in the actual real world.

    And then there was all the NAZI sympathy and justification on the other thread, yeah it was mostly by Steppe, and he had to take a break, but he wasn’t the only one.

    This is 2018 in America, this isn’t 1920, if your trying to defend this crap, you are out of touch. Sure, America has a history of racism, but we should be trying to actively put that crap into the trash bin of history, not defend it and wish for the good old days.

    Colonel Klink (51d08b)

  60. The point is the flag flies on the moon, but like Farrakhan on msnbc it doesn’t appear.

    Narciso (3baf2a)

  61. @64. The point is the flag flies on the moon, but like Farrakhan on msnbc it doesn’t appear.

    In fact, the U.S. flag planted by the Apollo 11 crew does not ‘fly on the moon.’ It lay in the lunar dust; something not widely publicized in 1969.

    The LM exhaust plume knocked over the flag planted by Armstrong and Aldrin; Buzz saw it fall over at ascent and recent LRO images of the landing sites confirm it. Of the six flags left on the lunar surface, only five remain erect- w/Apollo 12’s draped as you’d see in a courtroom, as the ‘stiffener’ on the staff failed.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. I remember DRJ.

    NJRob (c4a768)

  63. @64. Marco Rubio @marcorubio tweets: This is total lunacy. And a disservice at a time when our people need reminders of what we can achieve when we work together. The American people paid for that mission,on rockets built by Americans, with American technology & carrying American astronauts. It wasn’t a UN mission.

    “American technology,” Marco ??? Built by “Americans,” Marco?! In fact, key to the success was simply that ‘our Germans’ were better than ‘their Germans,’ Marco. And BTW, post-Apollo, the government hounded one of them, Arthur Rudolph, manager of Von Braun’s Saturn V program and with him at Nordhausen, into renouncing his U.S. citizenship and he fled back to Germany to avoid war crime prosecution. Rudolph considered the moon landing essentially a German victory painted U.S.A., Marco. Debus, Dornberger, Von Braun… they were all Germans– Nazis who worked for Hitler, Marco. Other key Apollo managers came from Europe as well.

    What is it with Cubans… Florida space journalist Jay Barbree reported on air during the moonwalk that the Cuban flag was one Apollo 11 didn’t carry to the moon in ’69. Still pissed, eh.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. Belated R.I.P., Janet Armstrong

    First wife of astronaut Neil Armstrong; she passed away June 21, 2018.

    Met her a long time ago, in that other America, that did things differently. She was a pleasant and strong woman with an earthbound courage equal to that of her astronaut husband.

    DCSCA (797bc0)


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