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7/12/2018

Trump Superfans on Trump and Putin

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:52 am



Trump superfans on Trump and Putin: Trump doesn’t seem to go easy on Putin. What has he ever done to help Putin?

Also Trump superfans on Trump and Putin: I think it’s awesome that Trump is threatening to pull us out of NATO.

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[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

194 Responses to “Trump Superfans on Trump and Putin”

  1. Cheerleading for politicians is unseemly. But cheerleading will happen.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  2. SNL, back in the day when they were funny, did a parody of China’s open practice of fandom. It featured Americans fawning over economists deplaning, and fans seeking autographs from obscure government officials. For me, the highlight of the parody was when an off-screen voice begged to see Greenspan’s calculator, and the resulting rhapsody of the crowd when he produced it.

    felipe (023cc9)

  3. So when they blew up the company from Warner corps and armed Ukraine with javelins.

    Narciso (8195d6)

  4. happyfeet mentioned on the other thread that Putin is cheating on Trump with Angela Merkel. That I suspect is the root of the problem.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Still, Trump’s wild displays are having some effect:

    World leaders gathered at the NATO summit have agreed to substantially up their commitment to defense following a flurry of public diatribes by President Trump. An emergency session was convened after he warned allies that if they didn’t immediately meet the 2% goal, “I’ll do my own thing.” “NATO is now a fine tuned machine,” Trump said, reiterating the importance of “burden sharing” among the 29-nation bloc.

    felipe (023cc9)

  6. Trump to NATO: Who’s your sugar daddy?

    felipe (023cc9)

  7. NATO’s gay useless and turk-infested

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. “And that’s why every NATO member should be contributing its full share — 2 percent of GDP — toward our common security, something that doesn’t always happen. And I’ll be honest, sometimes Europe has been complacent about its own defense.” . . . Barack Obama – 2016

    ….and Obama said he wanted a good relationship with Russia in that speech”

    https://collectingmythoughts.blogspot.com/2018/07/nato-costsfor-decades-presidents-have.html?m=1

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  9. Someone linked a Tazmanian devil cartoon to describe the left’s actions of late, but it might better serve as Trump’s avatar. I wouldn’t mind being so described.

    felipe (023cc9)

  10. LOL. You are on fire, Happy.

    felipe (023cc9)

  11. When the Germans do a security sweep, they do a security sweep!

    felipe (023cc9)

  12. thank you Mr. f

    but yes yes Mr. nk hot-to-trot Angie’s inchoate romance with Vladimir has moved well passed coquettish flirtations

    Trump lashes Germany over gas pipeline deal, calls it Russia’s ‘captive’

    “If you look at it, Germany is a captive of Russia. They got rid of their coal plants, they got rid of their nuclear, they’re getting so much of their oil and gas from Russia. I think it is something NATO has to look at. It is very inappropriate.”

    she’s a very foolish woman but such is love

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  13. Angela Lansbury Merkel providing for the German army.

    felipe (023cc9)

  14. Putin is a fickle boy. Did he at least send Trump flowers and a card?

    nk (dbc370)

  15. “Gentle persuasion by past presidents failed to induce Europeans to spend more on defense. By contrast, Trump’s demands for greater burden sharing are starting to have an effect. Yet much more still needs to happen. Moreover, we need to focus not just on inputs—how much money is spent—but also on outputs.

    A reformed NATO must hold members accountable in terms of actual military capabilities they can field. Those who care about NATO should criticize free-riding alliance members, not the efforts of Trump to get the alliance to up its game. At the same time, the Trump administration needs to articulate alliance priorities and the steps needed to adequately address them.”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/07/12/trump039s_criticism_is_valid_nato_needs_a_reset_447273.html

    Good read and lightyears beyond the TDS being offered by most.

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  16. 14, I’m surprised no one else expounded on the Lansbury/Merkel resemblance sooner…good one and good use of a quintessential bad no-animation era Disney flick, Felipe.

    urbanleftbehind (fab96f)

  17. Conversation is all we have.

    Dejectedhead (2bc11a)

  18. In other news:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/tracybeanz

    Narciso (459ac7)

  19. When you’re a leader, the opinion of the people following you is important. They care about how you feel about them. The way you talk to and about them is important.

    For the entirety of my life the US has been the leader of the western world. We’ve acted like it in a lot of ways. During that time we’ve become the most powerful nation on earth with the richest people.

    The way our presidents speaks about our allies makes me think he doesn’t see them as on our team. That he doesn’t value their past and present contributions, and that they’ve wronged us.

    I hope that this doesn’t have a negative impact on any of our security concerns. Many of our allies have democratically elected governments. The way their people feel about the US constrains how those countries can support us in situations that aren’t black and white. I’m worried that it will.

    Time123 (6e0727)

  20. Because they don’t act like russia is really a threat, we pay the check, they won’t even spring for the tip.

    Narciso (459ac7)

  21. The NATO summit couldn’t have worked out better for Putin, and his involvement in Brexit was another win. However, his meddling in Greece resulted in the expulsion of a couple of Putineers. I guess the shortish Russian dictator can’t win ’em all.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  22. As opposed to Jeremy Corbyn who has been a Soviet stb asset since the 80s?

    Narciso (459ac7)

  23. At one point there was a theory that engagement would reduce authoritarianism.
    Also, if Germany doesn’t buy LNG from Russia they’ll have to sell it somewhere else. They may get less profit from it if the price is inelastic. Or the price may go up if the new customer pays for the higher shipping cost leading to some inflations somewhere.
    If US gas is sold in the EU instead, that means the price for LNG here will go up. I’m sure that the companies that produce it will like that. Higher prices may also justify increased production if companies think the demand will be sustained for sufficient time. Or it could just mean a better quarter for LNG producers.

    Time123 (653992)

  24. Seems like a whole lot of leverage though, in that they have no backup.

    Narciso (459ac7)

  25. This old man he say one
    He go meet with Kim Jon Un

    This old man he say two
    He send Mike Pompeo too

    This old man he say three
    He put ketchup on kimchi

    With a Forbes mag fanny whack rolling back home
    This old man don’t get no bones.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. When one third of their air force flies, and they still with wooden rifles, that’s a sign of nonseriousness.

    Narciso (459ac7)

  27. Because they don’t act like russia is really a threat…

    Neither does Trump, which is kind of the problem.

    U.S. President Donald Trump declined to brand his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin as friend or foe ahead of the first full-fledged one-on-one summit between the two in Helsinki next week.
    “I really can’t say right now. As far as I’m concerned, he’s a competitor,” Trump told reporters as he departed the White House for a European tour that will also include potentially tense meetings with leaders of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and his first visit to the U.K. as president.

    Trump will reluctantly impose sanctions and then, behind closed doors, will make appeasing noises about the Crimean region of Ukraine, or say that a dictator is a “competitor” when said dictator has been consistently hostile to our interests since Bush was president. It’s a valid concern for Trump and Putin to be in a room together alone, because who knows what he will acquiesce to.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  28. At one point there was a theory that engagement would reduce authoritarianism.
    Also, if Germany doesn’t buy LNG from Russia they’ll have to sell it somewhere else. They may get less profit from it if the price is inelastic. Or the price may go up if the new customer pays for the higher shipping cost leading to some inflations somewhere.
    If US gas is sold in the EU instead, that means the price for LNG here will go up. I’m sure that the companies that produce it will like that. Higher prices may also justify increased production if companies think the demand will be sustained for sufficient time. Or it could just mean a better quarter for LNG producers.

    That right there is some seriously convoluted misunderstanding of economics and markets.

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  29. Trump vs. Obama, re Putin’s Russia.

    Obama wanted a “reset” of US relations with Russia and famously assured Medvedev, Putin’s placeholder, that he would have more flexibility to meet Russian demands/requests after the 2012 election. He mocked Romney’s concerns about Russia being the No. 1 geopolitical rival of the US. He undercut our ally, Poland, by removing (or refusing to send) a missile defense system that the Poles believed would be an aid against Russia. He refused to send significant military aid to the Ukrainians after the Russian (or Russian-backed, if that makes a difference) invasion. Obama did, though, preside over the US fracking revolution that has increased US energy independence and contributed to lower energy prices, to the detriment of Russia. Obama knew of Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 election, but ordered a stand-down of efforts to combat them.

    Trump has increased military aid to the Ukrainians. He expelled Russian diplomats. He ordered the missile attack on Russian client Syria, and in another instance approved (or at least did not stop) US forces from killing a number of Russian “mercenaries” in Syria. Trump is trying to increase the US defense budget. Trump has continued the policies of increasing US energy production. Trump’s comments about German energy dependence on Russia, while typically hyperbolic, reflect a concern about a key ally becoming overdependent on a foe, although no doubt the US would like to be the one selling natural gas to the Germans, maybe for more than the Russians charge. Although not specifically aimed at Russia, Trump has enhanced US credibility by following through on promises to move the US embassy in Israel and leave the Iran “deal”; contrast that with Obama’s phantom “red line” in Syria which weakened US credibility. Trump has, however, been way too kind to Putin rhetorically, e.g. with the comment last month that Russia should be back in the G7.

    I don’t know — on balance, Trump seems harder on Russia than Obama was, but there was no media obsession about Obama being too friendly to Russia as there is now with Trump.

    Please, tell me what I’m missing — and please correct any of my factual mistakes or add other facts I omitted. I’m not trying to make any pronouncements here, but would like to be educated by the many of you who have more knowledge.

    RL formerly in Glendale (40f5aa)

  30. Skorcher,

    Sorry if I didn’t write clearly. Can you point out what part you didn’t understand?

    Time123 (653992)

  31. Thanks, ULB, I appreciate the kind words.

    nk (dbc370) — 7/12/2018 @ 10:05 am

    Ouch, nk! That was intense -you’ve still got it!

    felipe (023cc9)

  32. Felipe: Man, I wish I had written that!

    NK: Don’t worry, Felipe, you will!

    felipe (023cc9)

  33. The old salt, for the merest moment, caught himself glancing at the sea lion, but this was enough to draw the sea lion’s attention.

    felipe (023cc9)

  34. Spanky’s formula for success:

    1. Swoop down and defecate all over X.
    2. After a short time, spit-shine X a little, if that.
    3. Proclaim, loud and often, about how he made it so much better!
    4. Walk away from X, shamelessly congratulating himself – again, loud and often – on such a fantastic job he did!

    Tillman (d34303)

  35. Here you go, felipe:
    George Bernard Shaw: Trump is like a dose of the clap.
    King George IV: How is that, Mr. Shaw?
    George Bernard Shaw: It seemed like fun at the time.

    Also see this.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. Spanky’s MSM’s formula for success:

    1. Swoop down and defecate all over [Republican] X.
    2. After a short time, spit-shine [at] X a little [more], if that.
    3. Proclaim, loud and often, about how [t]he[y] made it so much better!
    4. Walk away from [Republican] X, shamelessly congratulating himself [themselves]– again, loud and often – on such a fantastic job [t]he[y] did!

    …is what I think you meant to type.

    felipe (023cc9)

  37. OK, only so much time for this but focusing on just this:

    Also, if Germany doesn’t buy LNG from Russia they’ll have to sell it somewhere else. They may get less profit

    Of course across political boundaries a price (and consequently a profit) is a far more loaded term, especially when speaking of a fairly fascist state like Russia, however that considered and pretending all things being equalish, Russia most certainly will get less profit selling elsewhere otherwise they would have sold elsewhere to begin with. Admittedly things could change, though. They may find that they were wrong to sell in the direction of Germany and thus find more “profit” (again however it is defined by reality) elsewhere. Unlikely though and we are presuming all things being equal-ish.

    Or the price may go up if the new customer pays for the higher shipping cost leading to some inflations somewhere.
    Price in what sense? Again, putting aside the political aspects, the shipping costs are separate from the LNG. If Russia is doing the shipping, either the cost will be absorbed by Russia and the LNG costs the consumer whatever the “same” would be (i.e. Russia makes less profit on LNG to pay for the shipping cost), or the consumer pays the shipping cost. But the consumer would only be willing to pay that cost if the shippingCost + LNG_cargo WhereEverTheyGetTheirLNG_Now, then Russia must bring their price down even lower such that it is < WhereEverTheyGetTheirLNG_Now number. Or find a similar customer.

    Skorcher (5b282a)

  38. nk (dbc370) — 7/12/2018 @ 11:03 am

    I knew you would understand.

    felipe (023cc9)

  39. We have a military in case we need to war with russia, they have a military out of Gulliver travels, we got the bears attention at deir er zour at Khan sheykoun in douma, what other notification do they need.

    Narciso (2980ef)

  40. The thing about getting a bear’s attention is that it rarely blinks.

    felipe (023cc9)

  41. felipe, thankfully, most people disagree with that assessment bias. Going around making enemies of our allies is a horrible thing. There is no way to polish that.

    Tillman (d34303)

  42. There are also memes that trump-supercritics echo.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  43. Tillman (d34303) — 7/12/2018 @ 11:15 am

    Yes, I would say that that is the unvarnished truth.

    felipe (023cc9)

  44. Germany’s soldiers forced to use BROOMSTICK for a gun as Donald Trump blasts Angela Merkel over NATO spending

    The irony of this is that is what US soldiers were training with before WW2, when the Wehrmacht had better stuff.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  45. Here’s one of those supercritic memes:

    Testifying before the House, Peter Strzok, the agent who led the investigations of Russian interference and the Clinton emails, labeled Republican attacks on him as “another victory notch in Putin’s belt.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/us/politics/fbi-agent-house-republicans.html

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  46. Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/12/2018 @ 11:22 am

    Thank you for providing that example, Kevin M. I am not too proud to admit that I needed it.

    felipe (023cc9)

  47. Also, if Germany doesn’t buy LNG from Russia they’ll have to sell it somewhere else. They may get less profit

    While NG is a fungible commodity, once you put it into a pipeline you built, your flexibility pretty much craters.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  48. If NATO isn’t important enough for Europe to support, why should the US carry the load? We’ll be happy to rebuild Europe from the rubble after the next war if that’s what they want. Doesn’t seem like a good plan, but, heck, it’s not out culture to appropriate.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  49. 1.Cheerleading for politicians is unseemly…

    Pfft, ain’t that the truth:

    http://www.ronaldreaganlegacyproject.org

    “What’s the harm in a little kiss?” Drake McHugh [Ronald Reagan] ‘King’s Row’ 1942

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. Please, tell me what I’m missing — and please correct any of my factual mistakes or add other facts I omitted. I’m not trying to make any pronouncements here, but would like to be educated by the many of you who have more knowledge.
    RL formerly in Glendale (40f5aa) — 7/12/2018 @ 10:15 am

    Trump is attempting to do a reverse Nixon. Instead of cozying up to the Chinese in an attempt to check the USSR, Trump wants to rein in the Chinese. He is attempting to make nice with all of China’s neighbors, including Russia, as part of his strategy.

    Anon Y. Mous (acdecf)

  51. “Obama did, though, preside over the US fracking revolution that has increased US energy independence and contributed to lower energy price.”
    __ _

    “We can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices”Barack Obama

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/02/obama_said_we_cant_drill_our_way_to_energy_independence_actually_we_did.html

    Obama and his EPA and BLM opposed fracking, but I’m pretty sure he knows that the economy during his presidency would have been much worse without it.

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  52. Calling NATO members ‘allies’ right now is a bit of a stretch.

    Turkey hates the west and is only in it to steal defense technology and practice taqiyya. France is in it to keep an eye on the Germans, Germany because they want to steal protection against Russia from the US, the UK as an attempt to reclaim former glory and the smaller ones, who knows, and to some extent, who cares.

    My country, Canada, is a personal embarrassment. Our government is a ship of posturing anti-American fools and our military in far worse shape than Germany’s.

    All of your allies, every single one, is envious of your great success and wealth and deeply resentful, with the possible exception of the UK.

    Do not on any account trust your “allies”, they’ll stab you in the back when they get the chance.

    Fred Z (05d938)

  53. Putin’s flotsam; Trump’s a transient.

    This too shall pass.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. #54 DCSA: This too shall pass.

    Kidney stones pass as well.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  55. First, Iran:

    An Iranian woman who removed her headscarf out of protest in December says she has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.

    Next, Congress:

    The “Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018,” legislation introduced in the House, carries a potential 15-year prison sentence for those caught engaging in behaviors typically associated with the “antifa” movement of anti-fascist activists.
    Under the act, anyone “wearing a mask” or in disguise who “injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person … in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege” would be subject to a fine or up to 15 years in prison.
    The bill was introduced in the House last month but received renewed attention on Tuesday after alt-right personality Mike Cernovich encouraged his followers to call their representatives and "let them know what you think" about the legislation.

    If what the Iranian mullahs did was fascist, then this Antifa bill is no less so, not to mention a pretty clear breach of the First Amendment. If the GOP wants me back, they’re going to have to refrain from pulling that crap.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  56. @55. These days w/t right meds they dissolve and get pissed away through the body politik.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  57. Paul:

    The stance in Georgia for over 50 years is that mask wearing is not protected speech:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1990/12/06/us/georgia-supreme-court-reinstates-ban-on-wearing-of-klan-masks.html

    That law was used against some AntiFa people earlier this year.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  58. Yes the basij that blew the head of neda sultan operate the same way, so do Russian contraktiti on a zachista.

    narciso (d1f714)

  59. 51, in weird way that might also be the higher minded rationale for the “Desi” cabinet and administrative appointments.

    urbanleftbehind (fab96f)

  60. The stance in Georgia for over 50 years is that mask wearing is not protected speech:

    Fair enough, Appalled, but court decisions have gone both ways.

    A federal court in Indiana, however, came to a different conclusion in 1998 when the Klan challenged a Goshen city ordinance barring the use of masked hoods. The U.S. District Court judge in that case ruled that the law had the effect of “directly chilling speech” by interfering with the Klan’s right to associate anonymously.
    The Supreme Court has upheld the First Amendment right of citizens to communicate and congregate anonymously in several cases, but those cases have not involved the Ku Klux Klan.
    In a 1995 case about barring the anonymous distribution of political leaflets, the high court wrote that, “Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority.”

    I don’t think it’s a good thing to have a law on protests that is similar to present-day Iran.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  61. Skortcher,
    You’re correct that my description was simplified. As you pointed out really describing this very accurately would be complicated.

    My point was that Russia would still be able to sell their resources, but would likely make less profit.

    My second point was that Germany buying up LNG from the US would likely drive up prices domestically.

    Having Germany buy LNG from the US would likely do 4 things.
    1. Raise LNG costs in Germany.
    2. Lower LNG profits in Russia.
    3. Raise LNG costs in the US.
    4. Increase profits for LNG providers in the US.

    Time123 (653992)

  62. Meanwhile back at the hearing with a non-Trump fan:

    Mollie
    @MZHemingway
    What’s mostly educational about this hearing is not the grandstanding of the Q&A but the smug arrogance and mind-blowingly implausible — almost insane — explanations of Strzok. This is not a man who shows even-handedness or good judgment. Or even a strong handle on reality.
    __ _

    Cindy Simpson
    @Simpsonreport
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    Seriously, he reminds me of Jack Nicholson’s character, Colonel Jessup, in A Few Good Men. Wondering if prodded enough, Strzok would say something like: You’re damn right I activated that insurance policy!

    __ _

    Cal Carter
    @RealCalCarter
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    Don’t you love how he talks down to the congress?
    __ _

    vassarbushmills
    @bushmillsvassar
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    Forget the lie detector test, how did he ever pass the psych-eval at the FBI? No really
    __ _

    JR
    @Edinomight
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    He perfectly reflects the arrogance and contempt the deep state has for our laws. He sits there with that smirk on his face because he knows with Rosenstein and Mueller and at the helm, he is untouchable. All of the deep state conspirators have the same smug look.
    __ _

    Damian Ranger
    @DamianRanger1
    Replying to @MZHemingway and @bdomenech
    It’s an embarrassment for the FBI, and has ended what was left of my admiration for that agency
    __ _

    Be True
    @Btrue7
    Replying to @MZHemingway
    Thank God it is not just me drawing the same conclusion

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  63. Polygraph only measure stress levels, like “constanza said its not a lie if you believe it” now believing that trump is a Russian pawn, whereas Obama served up eastern Europe on a spit

    narciso (d1f714)

  64. Last election proved neo-cons are 1% of republican party, maybe less as they are running back to democrat part.

    wendell (279bf7)

  65. Paul:

    The AntiFa Act is not one I would advocate. It’s really a hate crimes kind of bill — meaning if you beat the tar out of someone while masked, you get a worse penalty than what you would get if you just beat the tar out of someone.

    Appalled (c9622b)

  66. House On Fire; Republicans Pee Gasoline.

    Film at 11.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. A harsh statement by Rep. Gohmert, but in bounds

    “You’ve embarrassed yourself, and I can’t help but wonder when I see you looking there with a little smirk, how many times did you look so innocent into your wife’s eye and lie to her about Lisa,” Gohmert said during the hearing of the House Oversight and Judiciary committees.”

    After all, it goes Strzok’s personal character, and the text messages between him and his mistress were a kind of high-tech pillow talk.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  68. If what the Iranian mullahs did was fascist, then this Antifa bill is no less so

    I think they are very easily distinguished. If I wear a mask in order to attack people who are engaged in speech I dislike, the mask was means of preparing to destroy civil rights.

    Wearing a mask to protect your identity is, on its own, not a big deal. Wearing a mask to make sure you can get away with criminal activities is not the same.

    The AntiFa Act is not one I would advocate. It’s really a hate crimes kind of bill — meaning if you beat the tar out of someone while masked, you get a worse penalty than what you would get if you just beat the tar out of someone.

    Appalled

    It’s more like a law that says if you beat the tar out of someone while concealing a handgun, that is worse than if you beat the tar out of someone while not armed. And indeed it is worse, much as beating people at protests while masked if worse than beating them without the mask. Both are very wrong things to do, but one of them is a planned activity meant to inspire a greater scope of fear.

    If I go into a bank and rob them with a water gun, I did not prepare to kill anyone. It’s not as bad as if I go into a bank and rob them with a real gun, even though both are bad.

    Paul’s Iran example doesn’t really make sense as the woman being persecuted was simply not doing anything harmful to anyone, not even attempting to avoid accountability for her speech, whereas the antifa people using masks to attack people and get away with it are the complete opposite.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  69. theres not obvious they were actually having an affair?

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. fter all, it goes Strzok’s personal character, and the text messages between him and his mistress were a kind of high-tech pillow talk.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/12/2018 @ 1:41 pm

    It comes across as something you would see on Jerry Springer. They’ve paid for the infidelity and they will answer to their families and to God. Gohmert may want to sit as our moral judge but he is a Republican congressman instead. Gohmert got what he wanted with the headlines about how harsh he was. A successful political strategy these days. Jerry Springer probably used it when he was a politician.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  71. @68. ROFLMAOPIP

    Yes, that was hilarious watching the chubby, balding, troll-ear Gohmert jealously whine about how a more dapper, man-about-town Strzok was able to get women on the side, just like our Captain.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. Democrats have always been behind the green door with the Kremlin, certainly since middle school days.

    narciso (d1f714)

  73. Page was not a catch. More like a throw back, there’s no agent keen or scully

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. @74. Pffft:

    “I’d rather have two girls at twenty-one each, than one girl at forty-twooooo…” – Larson E. Whipsnade [W.C. Fields] ‘You Can’t Cheat An Honest Man’ 1939

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  75. Dustin (ba94b2) — 7/12/2018 @ 1:44 pm

    Very well stated, Dustin.

    felipe (023cc9)

  76. if you’re not treating the hot and horny men and women of the fbi like trash then you’re according them a respect they don’t deserve

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  77. narciso (d1f714) — 7/12/2018 @ 2:00 pm

    But I’m sure there are Reddingtons aplenty at hand.

    felipe (023cc9)

  78. Probably, although his origin story, became more convoluted

    narciso (d1f714)

  79. I honestly don’t understand what the President hopes to accomplish–his foreign policy is all over the board–what’s the goal?

    Rochf (877dba)

  80. he’s doing the best foreign policy we’ve seen in decades, and I give him a lot of credit for that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. Rochf (877dba) — 7/12/2018 @ 2:26 pm

    I see a political cartoon opportunity here:

    Picture a park (identified as “foreign policy park”) with with litter strewn about the grounds labeled “Obama was here.”
    We see Trump, outfitted with a trash bag over his shoulder, a trash picker’s stick in his hand with a few pieces of the aforementioned litter already skewered. There is a wildly winding “bee-line” behind Trump suggesting the places he had collected the litter in his trash bag. A wide-eyed onlooker gawks at the site. The caption reads “This guy is all over the place!”

    felipe (023cc9)

  82. There’s much to that, Felipe, now how many have been killed from Berlin and other places, in Afghanistan and Iraq, including from nationals in that country.

    narciso (d1f714)

  83. ‘Louis nearly caused a scene; wishin’ it was a dream…’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exl0oSfTSoY

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  84. 81.I honestly don’t understand what the President hopes to accomplish–his foreign policy is all over the board–what’s the goal?

    Calling home to Mother.

    “Not so fast, it’s difficult for me to follow in Russian.” Tom Farrell (Yuri) [Kevin Costner] ‘No Way Out’ 1987

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  85. Yuri wee the good guy in that film, Hackman his gay aide, the CIA director (Thompson) his boss (keel)

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. @87. And Putin smiled…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  87. Were not admirable people, now actually the northern tier from Finland to Norway, because of their proximity to the Baltic should be mst concerned with their defense posture.

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. Yes I know he passed some secrets off to the soviet’s, but compared to walker bloch boyce pelton?

    narciso (d1f714)

  89. Louie Rocks

    mg (9e54f8)

  90. narciso (d1f714) — 7/12/2018 @ 2:58 pm

    Let’s hope Trump’s policies reduce those numbers. Yes it springs eternal.

    felipe (023cc9)

  91. There again, our enemies believe on to death, proselytizing (bayat) they take seriously, the Hamburg cell should have been a warning.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  92. @91. Louie Rocks

    LOL yes and when he passes to The Great Beyond, the epitaph on his own stone will surely read, “The Time Of The Gentleman Has Expired.” 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  93. How can an administration do so well on policy yet have such a flapjaw frontman whose every other word is moronic, false or bewildering?

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  94. Because the last 25 years of smooth talk and measured words have yielded little. I don’t know the answer to Afghanistan.

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. 95. Maybe it’s not the “flapjaw frontman” who is really behind the policy of his administration. I think that’s true of most presidential administrations, granted. But usually the contrast between figurehead and policy is not so stark.

    Gryph (08c844)

  96. @95. Reaganomics. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  97. Kevin M (5d3e49) — 7/12/2018 @ 4:31 pm
    Gryph (08c844) — 7/12/2018 @ 4:43 pm

    In business, there is a front office and a back office (where the real work gets done). So I agree with Gryph, especially about the stark contrast. Although a lightning rod figure can allow adversaries to miss-target their efforts, affording the back office to operate with greater efficiency.

    felipe (023cc9)

  98. ugh!

    Although a lightning rod figure can allow adversaries to miss-target their efforts, affording the back office to operate with greater efficiency, sometimes it can prove a disaster.

    felipe (023cc9)

  99. @62.

    Having Germany buy LNG from the US would likely do 4 things.

    1. Raise LNG costs in Germany.
    2. Lower LNG profits in Russia.
    3. Raise LNG costs in the US.
    4. Increase profits for LNG providers in the US
    .

    You’re more or less correct on all 4 points. My late father spent over 35 years in the oil biz at senior exec., levels; the last six years of his career doing int’l LPG/LNG deals w/t subsequent sales and transport. The product essentially becomes ubiquitous once in the marketplace, too. Bear in mind many U.S. firms, directly or indirectly energy-related and otherwise, contact/subcontract w/Russia, as well. Halliburton, Exxon-Mobil.. even Mickey Mouse, get their bite at the cheese:

    “In total there are almost 3,000 American companies in Russia [as of 12/12/2016] and the U.S. is also the leader in terms of foreign companies in Special Economic Zones, with 11 projects.

    1.3M
    2.Abbott Laboratories
    3.AbbVie
    4.AECOM
    5.Air Products
    6.Albermarle Chemicals Representative Office
    7.Alcoa SMZ (Alcoa Russia)
    8.American Express Russia & CIS
    9.AmeRussia St.Petersburg, Russia
    10.Amrustrans
    11.Amsted Rail Company
    12.Amway Russia
    13.Apple
    14.Armstrong World Industries
    15.Autodesk
    16.Avis Russia
    17.Avon Beauty Products Company
    18.Black & Decker, Moscow Representative Office
    19.Boeing Russia
    20.Bristol-Myers Squibb
    21.Brown-Forman Russia
    22.Burger King
    23.Cameron
    24.Cargill
    25.Caterpillar Eurasia
    26.Caterpillar Tosno
    27.Celgene Corporation
    28.Chevron
    29.Cisco Systems
    30.Citi Russia
    31.Citibank, Saint-Petersburg Branch
    32.Coca-Cola System in Russia
    33.Colgate-Palmolive
    34.Compressor Controls Corporation
    35.CononoPhillips Russia
    36.Corning SNG
    37.Crate & Barrel
    38.Cummins Incorporated
    39.Dell
    40.Delta Air Lines
    41.Dolby
    42.Dow Europe
    43.DuPont Science and Technologies
    44.Eaton
    45.Ecolab
    46.ExxonMobil
    47.Fluor Entrprises Group
    48.Ford Sollers Holding
    49.Forever 21
    50.General Electric
    51.General Motors Russia & cIS
    52.Genesys Telecommunications Laboratories
    53.Goldman Sachs
    54.Google
    55.Halliburton
    56.Herbalife International RS
    57.Hewlett Packard Enterprise
    58.Hilton Russia
    59.Honeywell
    60.Huntsman CIS
    61.IBM East Europe/Asia (NW Region Branch)
    62.IBM East Europe/Asia
    63.Intel
    64.International Paper Russia, Moscow Branch
    65.John Deere Rus
    66.Johnson & Johnson
    67.Johnson Controls International
    68.JP Morgan
    69.KBR East
    70.Kellogg Rus
    71.KFC
    72.Kimberly-Clark
    73.Kinross Gold Corporation, Moscow Representative Office
    74.Krispy Kreme
    75.Levi Strauss Moscow
    76.Lexmark International
    77.Liberty Insurance
    78.Lilly Pharma
    79.Mars Inc.
    80.Mary Kay
    81.MasterCard International
    82.McDonald’s Russia
    83.Medtronic
    84.Metlife
    85.Microsoft RUS
    86.Mondelez International
    87.Morgan Stanley
    88.Motorola Solutions
    89.Motorola Solutions, St. Petersburg Software Design Center
    90.MSD Pharmaceuticals
    91.NBCUniversal
    92.Nike
    93.NVIDIA
    94.OCV Steklovolokno (Owens Corning)
    95.Oracle Development SPB
    96.OTIS Lift
    97.PepsiCo
    98.Pfizer
    99.Philip Morris Izhora
    100.Philip Morris Sales & Marketing
    101.Procter & Gamble
    102.Qualcomm Europe, Russia Branch Office
    103.RAND Corporation
    104.SC Johnson
    105.Sealed Air
    106.Sherwin-Williams
    107.Software Technologies
    108.Standard & Poor’s Credit Market Services Europe Limited
    109.Starbucks
    110.Subway Russia
    111.Tenneco Automotive Volga
    112.The Estee Lauder Companies
    113.The Walt Disney Company, CIS
    114.Thermo Fisher Scientific
    115.Timken-Rus Service Company
    116.United Technologies International Operations
    117.United Way of Russia
    118.Visa
    119.Walt Disney Studios Sony Pictures Releasing
    120.Western Union
    121.Wrigley, A subsidiary of Mars, Incorporated-St. Petersburg Branch
    122.Xerox
    123.YRIR (YUM! Restaurants International Russia and CIS)”

    – source, http://www.aalep.eu

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  100. Do we rely on any of them for our livelihood, but it does shoe the hypocrisy of this snipehunt.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  101. @102. Ask a stockholder.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  102. He comes across as something you would see on Jerry Springer.

    That is this GOP, Dustin, and Gohmert was only the worst. What I thought wasn’t fair in that hearing was when a Congressman would levy one insult or another on Strzok and yield his time, thus giving Strzok no ability to respond or defend himself.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  103. I wondered how Phillip Morris could be 100th, then I saw that the list is alphabetical. The Marlboro man is our goodwill ambassador to the world.

    nk (dbc370)

  104. I guess Exxon has a similar influence but we don’t rely on their Siberian fields.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  105. Paul’s Iran example doesn’t really make sense as the woman being persecuted was simply not doing anything harmful to anyone, not even attempting to avoid accountability for her speech, whereas the antifa people using masks to attack people and get away with it are the complete opposite.

    It would’ve better if there was legislation that would increase or maximize the sentence, under existing law, for any crimes or misdemeanors committed by a mask-wearing antifa. Fifteen years is just plain punitive.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  106. I seem to recall that Marlboro cigarettes were initially meant to be a woman’s cigarette, dontcha know.

    Philip Morris & Co. (now Altria) had originally introduced the Marlboro brand as a woman’s cigarette in 1924.

    felipe (023cc9)

  107. Strzok leaked to Barrett to hide McCabe stonewalling, he was part of operation cross fire hurricane, he interrogated general Flynn without an attorney present, woe is strzok.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  108. Many states have “masked or hooded so as to conceal his identity” enhancement laws, or as a factor in aggravation, for violent crimes.

    I agree with you about the length of the sentence. It’s obscenely long. Most are these days.

    nk (dbc370)

  109. The tobacco companies didn’t start pushing filter cigarettes until the mid-1960s. Even though they had in fact been around as early as the 1920s. But then, ready-made cigarettes altogether were not as dominant. A lot of people still rolled their own. Unfiltered Camels, Lucky Strikes, and Pall Malls, along with Bull Durham and Top rolling tobaccos, were still big sellers through the 1970s.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. Looks like Trump just shat all over PM May, before even meeting her.

    In an extraordinary intervention timed to coincide with his UK visit, Mr Trump said Theresa May ignored his advice by opting for a soft Brexit strategy.
    And he warned her any attempts to maintain close ties with the EU would make a lucrative US trade deal very unlikely.
    Mr Trump said: “If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal.”

    Talk about poisoning the well. This isn’t a foreign policy win for anyone, except Putin.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  111. Well this why her premiership is hanging by a thread, ignoring what brought her to power,

    Narciso (6a1927)

  112. Obama couldn’t keep his piehole shut about Brexit either. He said pretty much the same things as Trump about how Brexit would play in a menage at trois with the US, the UK, and the EU. But at least he agreed with the sitting Prime Minister.

    nk (dbc370)

  113. No not the nearly the same thing, you notice how scl/Cambridge analytica is being destroyed because it was the only pro brexit outfit, how two years of this circlejerk has turned into the ransom of red chief.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  114. So haklyut and orbis, which operate in this shadow world of corporate espionage and private intelligence are not sanctioned for their interference across the pond.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  115. 56 Paul did you miss the whole part about wearing a mask while committing a felony? What felony where the Iranian women committing? So they are nothing alike, once again telling lies and clowning yourself.

    “If what the Iranian mullahs did was fascist, then this Antifa bill is no less so, not to mention a pretty clear breach of the First Amendment.”

    “Under the act, anyone “wearing a mask” or in disguise who “injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person”

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  116. Much like the distinction between uniformed military and unlawful combatants one deserves the Geneva conventions the others dont.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  117. 73 I forget which Kennedy coordinated with the Russians to interfere in an election, against Regan maybe, clear proof they did it and not a pep. Russian Collusion is ok when Democrats do it.

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  118. Edward Kennedy, but it wasn’t discovered for some 20 years later, with andropov and chernenko. He used jack tunney the son of the boxer as middleman he was a congressman or senator.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  119. R.I.P. Launch Complex 17, Cape Canaveral.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjTkXvAseg

    A blast to Echo the blasts from the past.

    Sad.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  120. The mitrokhin files might have had it first in 99, actually had they used Redstone rockets they might have gotten ahead of soutnik

    Narciso (6a1927)

  121. Obama couldn’t keep his piehole shut about Brexit either.

    And that was a mistake, too, especially after his stupid “back of the queue” comment.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  122. No, that was deliberate like the demonstrations in front of citigroup (on behalf of acorn) that pressured it into the subprime scam.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  123. John Tumney approached the Russians on behalf of the guy who left a young woman to die in a submerged car for help to defeat Reagan and become President.

    https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html

    Treason pure and simple from a disgusting deadly cad but he supported Roe v Wade so hey s**t happens.

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  124. We would be in a much better position to pressure Germany on the new Russian pipeline if Obama hadn’t rejected Coos Bay LNG terminal. Just another major blunder by the worst President ever.

    Harder to tell Germany to turn down the pipeline when another source isn’t available.

    Now that we are finally building LNG export terminals, Europe needs to build receiving terminals and sign some long term contracts.

    Addresses security, NATO, and trade deficit.

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  125. That would be too far away in any event, and it’s fracken oregon to boot. Germany has 1/5 our population. I think we could spare some lng.

    Narciso (6a1927)

  126. It’s probably a good thing that Ms. Page is meeting House Intelligence Committee members behind closed doors. If it were a public spectacle like with Strzok, we could’ve taken bets as to which GOP House member called her a slut first. Gohmert would’ve been the best bet, but who knows, Goodlatte might’ve given him a run.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  127. She’ll leak it to the right outlet that made her seem brave and resolute, instead of a total goof, who endangered bureau operations

    Narciso (6a1927)

  128. It would’ve better if there was legislation that would increase or maximize the sentence, under existing law, for any crimes or misdemeanors committed by a mask-wearing antifa. Fifteen years is just plain punitive.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/12/2018 @ 5:35 pm

    I think this argument makes some sense. However, I also believe there’s a bona fide public safety benefit to banning masks at protests, and it’s all about that safety to me. If you disagree, I recommend you attend a few protests where antifa will be there and masks are not banned, and then attend a few where masks are banned.

    There’s just something about those kids wearing masks that seems to encourage some violence these days. Personally, I could go farther than the law you mention and actively make it an offense to wear a mask at a protest. But I understand where you’re coming from on this.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  129. Right now our only east coast terminal is contracted to Japan and India. Gulf of Mexico terminals are also shipping to Asia. If we had Coos Bay it could supply Asia then we could use East Coast terminals for Europe.

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  130. I get the sentiment, Dustin. Another thing. I’m not sure how a federal law would overlap with local laws regarding assault and other forms of violence. But here’s another thought, which may be a little half-baked because I’m on my 3rd glass of red: Why not have a law that would exempt a guy from prosecution if he beat the crap out of a mask-wearing douchebag at a protest. It would be a perfect incentive for dissuading sh**tbags from wearing masks in the first place, and would apply to KKKers or Antifas or whomever. But that might be a problem if a bunch of hijab-wearers show up. Maybe there’ll be a better answer on glass #4.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  131. Who lies more? Trump, about Trump? Or the MSM, about Trump? The only difference is that Trump, a politician, should be expected to lie, while the heirs of Duranty and Moyers Morrow and Brinkley are supposed to be the guardians of objective truth.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  132. Louie Louie Louie Louie Louie Louie Louie Louie
    Fu## you democrat pos.

    mg (9e54f8)

  133. Ever since they caught that Diablo Valley CC instructor slamming peaceful protesters in Berkeley over their heads with a bike lock while wearing a mask I’ve had no problem with curbing use of masks at demonstrations.

    First it was the KKK, now Antifa, wtf Dems?

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  134. Having Germany buy LNG from the US would likely do 4 things.

    1. Raise LNG costs in Germany.

    3. Raise LNG costs in the US.
    4. Increase profits for LNG providers in the US.

    1 certainly.
    2 would depend on Russia’s agility at changing customers. If they have pipelines they have to write off, then sure, profits go down.

    But 3? Doesn’t really matter since we use very little LNG domestically, the use is declining. Exports would probably not affect the domestic price since most of what we use is IMPORTED from elsewhere. If anything, it would lower them since the world market would have more KNG for sale.

    As for 4, it would increase the direct market for US exports, but presumably Russia’s former German exports are now dumped on the market, so US exporters would have more competition in freer markets. Best bet? Flat or a little lower due to churn.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  135. 2. Lower LNG profits in Russia.

    that got lost somehow.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  136. Completely juvenile but I can’t stop laughing…..

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EsotericCD/status/1017603840680628226

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  137. @95. Reaganomics. 😉
    DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/12/2018 @ 4:56 pm

    I cite this a proof DCSCA is a lurking leftist. Even most moderate Democrats now admit that Reagan was no dunce.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  138. 141… whaddya gonna do, harkin, it’s Chait. Not the brightest bulb.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  139. Right up with hentai (don’t ask, I’m warning you) eichenwald or Josh ‘pornhub’ marshall

    Narciso (6a1927)

  140. @142. Even most moderate Democrats now admit that Reagan was no dunce.

    Of course not; he voted for FDR four times.

    But was he an ‘amiable dunce?!?!’ The mystery deepens.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  141. I agree: “Find your passion” is terrible advice.
    A dozen or more years ago, I went to a luncheon where Wally Walker, GM of the Sonics, was the keynote speaker. His main message was “follow your passion”. Well, he followed his passion and basically ruined the Sonics by his bad decisions and ineptitude, thus paving the way to their eventual sale to an Oklahoma City hack who moved the team to OK City at the earliest available opportunity. Find your passion, pffft.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  142. Well hoover London wilkie and dewey

    narciso (d1f714)

  143. “… whaddya gonna do, harkin, it’s Chait. Not the brightest bulb

    At least soliciting emergency medical advice from Twitter explains his faith in socialized medicine.

    harkin (9d2fbb)

  144. Товарищ!!

    Oh Louis, Louis, Louis….seems in the bad old Soviet days, you spent a summer as an “exchange student” in Ukraine. Hmmmm. Texas may be more red than we know. There needs to be an investigation. And a hearing, Comrade Gohmert!

    Did the Ukraine girls really knock you out? Did you leave the West behind? Did Moscow girls make you sing and shout? Was Georgia always on your my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my mind? Were you shown ’round those snow-peaked mountains way down south? Were you taken to some daddy’s farm? Did you hear the balalaikas ringing out? Are you now or were you ever keeping your comrades warm?

    Back In the U.S.S.R.?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  145. I’m thinking that they used proto-matter to solve the equations in order to get the desired result.

    The tell (italics mine): “Let’s be inclusive and construct a model based on all the data we have available.”

    felipe (023cc9)

  146. After Strozak testified my view of the FBI unbelievably sunk to the depths of whale sh!t.
    He made the FBI look like a junior varsity glee club.

    mg (9e54f8)

  147. This is a Delilah Long Distance Dedication to Lisa, from The Guy who strapped a gun on for 26 years to protect you Caution Girls Girls Girls

    Pinandpuller (041bbb)

  148. I get the sentiment, Dustin. Another thing. I’m not sure how a federal law would overlap with local laws regarding assault and other forms of violence. But here’s another thought, which may be a little half-baked because I’m on my 3rd glass of red: Why not have a law that would exempt a guy from prosecution if he beat the crap out of a mask-wearing douchebag at a protest. It would be a perfect incentive for dissuading sh**tbags from wearing masks in the first place, and would apply to KKKers or Antifas or whomever. But that might be a problem if a bunch of hijab-wearers show up. Maybe there’ll be a better answer on glass #4.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad) — 7/12/2018 @ 8:09 pm

    IANAL but don’t lawyers and law makers call that an affirmative defense?

    I’ll listen to your answer off the air.

    Pinandpuller (041bbb)

  149. At what point did Trey Gowdy start singing for Yes?

    Pinandpuller (041bbb)

  150. Majority Chairman: Ms Page, I have a letter here from a young schoolboy that I think is relevant to testimony we’ve heard here at the Judiciary commitee.

    Under! Uh uh uh uh uh uh

    Under! Uh uh uh uh uh uh

    Under! Uh uh uh uh uh uh

    You’ve been…Under Strozk!

    Under Strzok! Yeah Yeah Yeah!

    Under Stzok! Yeah Yeah You!

    Relevant

    Pinandpuller (041bbb)

  151. 137 How long till dems claim antifa were future Republicans like they claim KKK magically switched.

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  152. Well, due to being outed asthe bad guy to a minority pool complex user, #walkaway, tax cuts and gainful employment acquired, i bet you a lot of calendar year 2017 Antifa has already switched.

    urbanleftbehind (fbc0ad)

  153. This Star Chamber Grand Inquisition theater is unseemly, unproductive, and un-American. But it gives the Congressional jerkoffs something to do besides soliciting money for their reelection and jerking off.

    nk (dbc370)

  154. Hahahaha! Strzok may be a sinner but sure ain’t a winner now… https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/301971/

    Colonel Haiku (5fd258)

  155. this is a good story about the sleazy slutty Sessions DOJ

    When Holder used the executive privilege excuse to hide the facts about Fast and Furious from the House committee that I chaired, he did so because it was the only way to subvert congressional authority.

    But thanks to Attorney General Sessions, it’s now a lot easier to flout a congressional subpoena. Now that Page has gotten away with ignoring a subpoena from Congress, other witnesses will follow suit, confident that the Sessions Justice Department will have their backs.

    I have argued that both parties would rue the day we stood by passively while Sessions essentially destroyed our ability to provide meaningful oversight. Democrats may have cheered the move when it shielded Hillary Clinton. But what happens when they want to see documents or hear from a witness? Both sides lost when the attorney general refused to do his job.

    appointing corrupt ignorant weaksuck Jeffy Sessions to Attorney General is by far the worst decision President Trump has made

    not only is justice in America a hugely silly joke anymore

    appointing Jeffy guaranteed that the sleazy slimy fbi would ripen into the full-blown clown-show Gestapo it is today

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  156. You misspelled kabuki star chamber is what they did to colonel north. They were no hepped up they forgot to read the immunity regs.

    Sessions is in a nest of vipers, Eisenstein being chief snake, Sally Yates which times reporter was she sleeping with, set up this narrative that Stuart smalley regurgitated.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  157. Now benczowski might provide some relief, but we thought that of Mrs brand, but she wouldn’t step up.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  158. Congress should not have subpoena power, except for the Senate when trying impeachments. Neither should administrative agencies. And they do not under a fair reading of our Constitution. Subpoenas are a judicial function.

    nk (dbc370)

  159. IANAL but don’t lawyers and law makers call that an affirmative defense?

    It could be, P&P, but IANAL either.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  160. By using these “witnesses” as foils to prim, preen and prance in front of the TV cameras, they’re not only violating their Fourth Amendment rights they’re also violating their First Amendment rights.

    nk (dbc370)

  161. Hey they run black sites in your town, where zubeydah might ended up in lake Michigan right.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  162. Why not have a law that would exempt a guy from prosecution if he beat the crap out of a mask-wearing douchebag at a protest.

    Because every police state wants to have the monopoly on the use of violence. Even Reinhard Heydrich objected to Kristallnacht. He wanted his Gestapo and SS to persecute the Jews in an orderly manner; not some mob destroying things indiscriminately and raising insurance premiums.

    nk (dbc370)

  163. Possibly, this pattern goes back to Watergate, but remember Nixon was purr evil Right, had that been the case jack Anderson would have been dead a la condor and Woodward and Bernstein ended up in a collapsed parking structure.

    Anyways the Congress nabbed the city manager of San Diego for a statement about a lobbyist for itt assisting in a bid for the San Diego Republican convention, but they failed to have a quorum

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  164. Btw they’ve remade condor, Brendan Fraser is an chemical tycoon who makes a fortune from an anthrax scare, and the title is the fellow who is trying to track the plot down.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  165. Both canceled series taken and Quantico, have taken the notion of Eric prince as evil kingpin and run with it

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  166. It does go back to Nixon but when he chaired the House Un-American Activities Committee. Very appropriately, if ironically, named. And let’s not forget the concurrent McCarthy hearings. With boyfriend Roy Cohn featuring large.

    nk (dbc370)

  167. Yes they were actual commies spreading sedition, they were buried in the bureaucracy for 20 years, McCarthy read the house report on the screw up, missed calls and utter treason (Currie, Remington, duggan) st al tha

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  168. I watched a few seconds of Faux Friends. On the internet. One of the talking heads, maybe it was the fluff bunny, asked, I’m not making it up, if “the GOP landed any solid blows on Strzok” at the hearing. Star Chamber. Clown show.

    nk (dbc370)

  169. Marshall as honorable as he was employed many of these jokers like Chubb, Stewart service, Vincent, like the folks in the 80s, who insisted the fmln was well intentioned.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  170. Well like nathan jessup, strzok did admit some things, as opposed to the rocket surgeons at msnbc and cnn?

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  171. I was thinking more of the “cas me on the outside” girl. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  172. Paul,

    you and Dave seem to have a lot in common. You both save your vitriol for the right and not the left. Interesting.

    NJRob (b00189)

  173. So just full of hot takes, of course the Khan justification was fresh off the griddle

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  174. My father used to shoot foxes that stole our chickens, but I think a pack of hounds in red coats on horseback chasing one are the ones that should be shot.

    nk (dbc370)

  175. Most shot their own feet, but there were occasional revelations.

    Narciso (cbfddb)

  176. Maybe someone can explain when Putin became our “Enemy” and getting along with Russia became “Teason 11”

    Unlike the Never Trumpers, I don’t give a damn about Putin, unless he directly threatens the security of the USA or somehow adversely – in a significant way – effects OUR interests.

    All this screeching about Putin, is bizarre. We aren’t at war with Russia. Russian is not a totalitarian dictatorship. Russia is – in fact – more democratic than China. But Ok, we get Never Trumpers, you’re like McCain – Putin is the most, evil, evil guy in the world. We get it. But that’s just your opinion.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  177. After he declared opposition to gay marriage, is the short form. They didn’t really care about litvinenko or bank fraud.

    narciso (d1f714)

  178. I have few reasons to trust Russians, if I were Syrian likewise:

    https://babalublog.com/2018/07/13/13-de-marzo/

    narciso (d1f714)

  179. you and Dave seem to have a lot in common. You both save your vitriol for the right and not the left. Interesting.

    There’s no one on the Left commenting here, and the pushback Dave and I get are from unquestioning Trump fans. But your comment is false. One, I limit my vitriol to those making personal attacks. Two, I criticize the left side of the aisle as well, for example, here, here and here. But then again, the topics of the diaries in the last week have been Trump-centered.

    Paul Montagu (91b6ad)

  180. unquestioning Trump fans

    why would anybody not like President Trump?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  181. I think Putin likes the current state of affairs, the eu doesn’t pose a significant military challenge in places like Germany, the main parties are openly contemptuous of the people’s interests, hence it’s very hard to have consensus. The everyday citizen is subject to the threat of knifing arson attacks, sexual assaults against woman and yet the establishment denied it, faith and family are also aggressively undermined, which radicalized the newcomers

    Narciso (b2eb1c)

  182. china will eat all of russia’s tacos

    they don’t covet resource-poor japan you know

    and in matter of fact

    they hate other asians reflexively

    they don’t want to commingle

    and the Russians they have oil and they raise plump dogs

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  183. The Russians will probably have to watch their far eastern flank, as they did with Japan about 120 years ago.

    Narciso (b2eb1c)

  184. i guess a game-changer would be commercial development of methane hydrate

    but we haven’t heard much about that for a year plus now i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  185. hrm looks like the dirty chinesers are actively raping our filipino friends

    “What is the grand design of China? China wants to control for economic and military purposes the South China Sea. China wants all the oil, gas, and fishery,” Carpio said.

    The report added that the methane hydrate found in the waters can power up the whole of China for a hundred years.

    i don’t really have any feelings about this am i supposed to?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  186. here’s an indian dude at dow chem what says what he effing thinks

    An Sreeram, chief technology officer at Dow, told ET that diesel will return as a preferred fuel in the years to come, adding that global warming is an under-studied and over-stated problem because the earth has gone through several cycles of ice melts and refreezing.

    here’s his offical bio

    so there you go he works for the people what did bhopal all up in it

    i wonder if that’s transgressive at all anymore

    probably not

    the caravan goes on you see

    plus it sounds like he lives in michigan

    happyfeet (28a91b)


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