Stephen Miller Makes a Tragic, Grotesque Grab for Donald Trump’s Attention
This interview is tragic. And grotesgue. And tragically grotesque. And grotesquely tragic.
It’s a video Rorschach test. Trump fans will see a guy who fights — taking down the CNN #FAKENEWS!!1! I see a guy making a desperate grab for increased relevance in the White House by giving the man-child in the Oval Office something entertaining to watch.
It’s embarrassing. And tragic. And grotesque.
I started to say: it’ll probably work. Then I checked. It already has:
Jake Tapper of Fake News CNN just got destroyed in his interview with Stephen Miller of the Trump Administration. Watch the hatred and unfairness of this CNN flunky!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 7, 2018
LOL. The man-child is happy. Mission Accomplished.
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
Hilarballs
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:36 amthat’s not a word
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:42 ami like how Mr. Miller refuses to dignify CNN fake news propaganda slut Jake Tapper’s tendentious sluttery
here Jakey I got a hot lead on a white truck for you slut boy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:48 amMiller talks like a robot. He reminded me of a brainwashed cult member, regurgitating phrases dinned into his head by his superiors in the cult.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:52 amIf only Hillary were President then Tapper and the WH guest could have a civil discussion of why everything that’s failing is the fault of those wascally wepublicans instead of whatever this was. I agree this was a waste of 12 and a half minutes but it’s also a waste of outrage because it changes nothing.
crazy (d99a88) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:56 amMr. kishnevi mama pikachu used to say if you can’t say something nice…
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:04 amTell us,why you think that, there are real matters at stake, that tapper doesn’t care about, this is what he did to Florida to get his publishing contract.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:14 amBecause al vore couldn’t have lost fair and square, same for hillary.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:17 amSteven Miller’s rude, repeated, and excessively adament efforts to list Trump’s virtues and again and again to insist upon recognition for Trump’s many laudable accomplishments crossed the line – he was right on the facts, but dead wrong on delivery.
Miller overplayed his hand, he foolishly allowed long simmering anger to undermine his judgment, he became rude and combative, and in contrast to Jake Tapper’s more calm and deliberate posture, Miller came off like a whacky true believer worshipping his idol.
ropelight (0e2d9b) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:23 amMiller made Bannon look like a genius.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:24 amIt was a waste of broadcast time that could have been devoted to a meaningful discussion of actual issues.
But in that regard its consistent with a typical CNN Sunday.
Miller is clearly a guy who thinks he’s at the doorstep of having a real substantive role in policy formulations. But IMO he’s on the verge of being this Admins. version of Ben Rhodes — very light on experience and actual substance, making up for it with hyper-partisan defense of whatever the WH is doing.
The difference — I hope — between the two is the occupant of the Office of Chief of Staff. While Trump might applaud this kind of performance in a tweet, I don’t think it helps Miller in the eyes of the one guy who still has the ability to manage the chess pieces around Trump.
Kelly engineered the ouster of Bannon, and I think he was ok with letting Miller remain as sort of a “Little Bannon”. But this kind of performance undermines Miller’s position. It doesn’t really matter if Trump liked it — the key question is whether Kelly sees it as a reason to start maneuvering Miller out the door because this kind of performance makes getting stuff done more difficult.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:27 amAs opposed to what, exactly, tapper is not quite a journolist but he is right outside the circle. Tapper would know substance if it kicked him in the face, ftm so is Chris wallace.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:31 amThis is disagreeing for the sake of being disagreeable. Miller didn’t come on in order to engage Tapper — though I’m not sure Tapper really enjoys the presumption of having the intent to have a meaningful debate any longer with any WH official.
To me it’s likely a circumstance of the WH knowing every Sunday talking heads show was going to be possessed to argue over the book and yesterday’s tweets, and knowing that it would likely be “hand to hand” combat with Tapper, Miller raised his hand and volunteered. Then he went in with his knife already unsheathed.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:32 amAnd is that a bad thing or a good thing, swc?
Leviticus (b94909) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:36 amYes, there is a pattern in the debating style of Trump’s defenders. They claim the questioner is biased, make excuses for a few seconds, claim someone else did the same thing and then just keep talking. Monopolize the conversation.
That seems to be their winning formula. I wish someone in TV news would dissect these responses to questions. Maybe with a chalkboard or perhaps a more modern visual aid. Exactly what was the question and what techniques were used to not answer that question.
The public should be educated on what is really going on with these experts of deflection and how they pull it off. And that goes for PR folks from both parties.
noel (b4d580) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:39 amBut its a shame that CNN really wanted the book and tweets to be the basis for their interviews, rather than a ton of important things that actually happened last week.
I would recommend a column at Lawfare blog that Jack Goldsmith put up yesterday that has some very interesting questions about whether Mueller is really investigating any allegation of “obstruction” on the part of Trump involving the firing of Comey.
Goldsmith points out that the recusal regulations for DOJ officials is very clear, and that Rosenstein has been visibly monitoring and overseeing Mueller’s investigation for more than 8 months. But the facts could not be more clear that Rosenstein was involved in the decision-making surrounding the firing of Comey, Rosenstein wrote memo justifying Comey’s dismissal, and Rosenstein had a draft of a letter Trump and another WH official (Miller most likely — something Tapper could have asked about) had written outlining reasons for Comey’s firing before it took place.
So Rosenstein is a participant in the episode that might be under investigation, Rosenstein is a witness to what Trump was actually thinking leading up to the firing, Rosenstein knows exactly what Mueller is investigating because he’s charged by regulation with overseeing Mueller’s work, yet Rosenstein has not recused himself as he should under the regulations if he was a participant or witness to the events under investigation.
Which leads Goldsmith to question whether Mueller is really even looking at the issue as anything other than simply a sequence of events that needs to better understood as part of the Russian collusion investigation which is what he’s charged with looking into.
But, instead of dealing with substance, lets argue about a tweet storm which I still think was intended as a trolling job on the press to take attention off the two stories yesterday in the NYT and LAT.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:42 am14 — its a bad thing. There’s no enlightenment of the audience on issues that matter. Its simply a clash of two egos by guys who are a lot less important in reality than they believe themselves to be in their heads.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:43 amNoel — spend a bit of time watching the live feed of the daily press conference from the WH.
That might give you an idea about why this “style” has evolved.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:44 amThey don’t care about that shipwrecked, that dossier and everything that flows from it is what has had then crash on shoals, I challenge anyone to point a substantive critique about the irs witch hunt the Iran , fast and furious in short every real scandal in the last eight years
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:47 amEven ropelight and mg think don’t think much of Miller….
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:48 amwhy are people subjected to CNN Jake Tapper fake news propaganda sluts in airports?
this seems arbitrary and cruel
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:49 amToday wasn’t Miller’s best day, Trump deserves better from his surrogates. Miller’s heart is in the right place, but he must learn to play the long game and not waste credibility, or let himself be typecast, in hostile media ambushes.
Miller’s a smart guy, he’s got a bright future, but to be effective over time he should abandon the bludgeon in favor of the subtleties of the rapier. A little wit and a smile or two would also help out.
ropelight (0e2d9b) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:50 amEven ropelight and mg think don’t think much of Miller….
Mr. Miller did the best he could do with this news cycle
you have a rabid CNN slut wanting to talk about a book that has no credibility as if it won the Nobel Prize in Literature from those nasty muslim swedes who pee sitting down
if Jake Tapper wants respect he can pay Don Lemon to give him a tongue bath (lick lick)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:53 amSo if they leave the field to the usual peanut gallery, personally I preferred haley s soft touch, she’s dealt with unfounded folderall. But they didn’t question the underlying assumptions, of course be aware of CNN direct tie to fusion gps: ie evan perez
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:53 amThey look upon the incipient crushing of the Iran uprising a,little like Harry mime looked,on from the Ferris wheel.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:55 amThis goes to SWC’s comment @16.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:57 am
Miller’s a smart guy, he’s got a bright future, but to be effective over time he should abandon the bludgeon in favor of the subtleties of the rapier. A little wit and a smile or two would also help out.
Everytime he’s crossed my TV screen (admittedly, not often), he seems incapable of subtlety and wit.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:58 amGreat blogging minds think alike…
Allahpundit: “Congratulations to Miller on his forthcoming nomination to the Supreme Court.”
LOL!
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:01 amMy favorite part was where he emphatically dismissed the book as a total load of garbage by a vile, discredited lying liar failing loser that nobody likes without bothering to explain how it was that his very stable genius boss immediately went after his former coffee-boy who had absolutely nothing to do with his presidency Steve Bannon over some part of that garbage put out by the lying liar. Would Miller agree that his boss somehow fell for this nonsense (and how did that happen?) or else that not absolutely everything in the book is total garbage? Of course he would – Miller’s a shameless flack completely comfortable stating two diametrically opposed opinions at the same time.
Jerryskids (cfad51) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:02 amBannon is good on issues left out of the matrix trade and immigration, and security, and this is true whether it’s Boston to Budapest, this poor copy of callenders calumbies
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:09 am“Joy Reid
@JoyAnnReid
Well done, Electoral College.
—-
Stephen Miller
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:10 am@redsteeze
Yes the problem was definitely the constitutional process that’s worked for a couple hundred years. The problem definitely wasn’t Hillary Clinton partying at Gwenyth Paltrow’s house instead of going to Wisconsin.
Is,about none of that. It’s not supposed to be. General Flynn saw how unwarranted assertion (al queda is on the run) was unsupported by the evidence, also he stuck up for agent griytz.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:12 amPut Andrew Breitbart on against Fake Jake Crapper and one could see how to handle the interview. As Patterico has stated Andrew could make his point with humor.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:13 amTheir oracles told her she was a shooin, so obviously something else’s was wrong.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:14 amMiller was wasteful, but he did one good service. He prevented Tapper from making the show about Trump’s “mental fitness” for the office of President. Tapper is trying to create a media firestorm to enable the illegal removal of the legitimately elected President of the United States. Just think about that.
NJRob (b00189) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:22 amdead wrong on delivery
That flinty, oblong Neanderthal forehead should be a cautionary tale in itself.
Truly the atavistic temerity makes him a dog from a different b*tch but a Trumpian soul-brother.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:23 amMiller made Bannon look like a genius.
You speak as though the term genius has had a meaning.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:26 amWiki
Doublespeak is a language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., “downsizing” for layoffs, “servicing the target” for bombing[1]), in which case it is primarily meant to make the truth sound more palatable. It may also refer to intentional ambiguity in language or to actual inversions of meaning. In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth. Doublespeak is most closely associated with political language.[2][3]
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:29 amWhat does it say about the Democrat Party when that man-child’s administration has far better policies and results than any of his Democrat opponents?
“Can you send a barrel of whatever whiskey he drinks to all my other generals?”
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:30 am–A Lincoln
If it’s a Rorschach test, then I guess I pass since I give Miller a thumbs down. But, it looks bad only because the interview happened in the first place.
Imagine a world where you have an adoring media and cultural elite that runs interference for you day after day, year after year. Then ask yourself if this book gets on anyone’s radar and if this sort of interview even takes place.
Given that, whether one thinks this post is making a salient point of any kind is another Rorschach test.
random viking (616c92) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:32 amOK, I thought about it. It’s still not true.
There is nothing “illegal” about pursuing a process explicitly authorized by the Constitution.
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:35 amBut, instead of dealing with substance, lets argue about a tweet storm
swc, I generally appreciate your comments but this is kinda weak. TRUMP could have avoided the tweet storm being an issue by staying the F off the Interwebs. He didn’t and, combined with the partisan allegations of mental derangement, it becomes a valid issue.
I really have trouble defending a guy who tweets over and over that he’s a genius. It’s really not the kind of thing you have to assert, if true.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:40 amsalient point
You get it all right, you just don’t like having your nose rubbed in it.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:40 amTapper has his moments:
Jake Tapper
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:42 am@jaketapper
Replying to @brianstelter and @cnni
Having many errors but “ringing true” is not a journalistic standard.
Btw – 10 points for using “tragic” and “grotesque” to describe a TV interview not involving Kathy Griffin or Andy Di ck.
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:44 amGovernment by litigation and investigation shifts power away from voters to lawyers
And this is more destructive when you consider the one-sidedness to these investigations. Obama committed maybe a dozen impeachable acts yet no investigation resulted. Why? Because the government bureaucracy is monolithically Democrat. But they are trying to impeach Trump for saying “hey go easy on this guy, his heart was in the fight place.”
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:45 am*right place
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:45 ammaybe a dozen impeachable acts
Thanks for the Trumpian precision, but could you be more specific?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:46 amThat was a great typo, Kevin.
DRJ (15874d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:47 amEverytime he’s crossed my TV screen (admittedly, not often), he seems incapable of subtlety and wit.
These are not exactly the hallmarks of the Trump administration. C J Cregg he’s not.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:48 amIf you’re speaking of the North Korean assessment, then we can conclude fusion is,handling the collection effort there As well.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:49 amRight, the media lie for a living, the nournolist the rizzotto press other echo chambers like the ones Ben Rhodes concocted when challenged they have no answer for 25 to 30 years of failed policies.
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:52 amSome are slippery types who split hairs of Trumpdom. They, like cafeteria Christians, think they can fit through the eye of the needle. There is no grey tones with Trump. Black/White..one is wrong..the other right.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:57 amMistake of the day by the WH press shop.
Should have sent Pompeo to deal with Tapper, and Miller on with Chris Wallace.
Pompeo is probably the smartest and most politically astute guy in the Admin.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:57 amIt’s odd that you want Hillary as President but whatever. I just disagree.
I do agree that outrage is misplaced, which is why I showed none. I invite others to join me in the appropriate response: mockery.
Patterico (ed9208) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:00 amWhoa. When did the government bureaucracy get put in charge of impeachment? Last I heard, it was the House and Senate.
Impeachment is a political process, and the reasons Obama wasn’t impeached are obvious:
1) There was zero hope of conviction, and
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:01 am2) He did nothing that damaged his popularity enough to make a failed impeachment attempt politically expedient
Minus 100 for not getting the joke. Watch the interview and maybe you will.
Patterico (ed9208) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:02 amOutrage is fully compatible with mockery.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:02 amWatch the first 3:30 of Pompeo with Wallace. A thing of beauty. Wallace had the self-awareness to realize nothing good for him was going to come trying to take the interview farther than he did. Tapper would have continued to push and made himself look like an idiot.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:03 amIf Hillary were Pres, Tapper would have been serving up softball questions that invited the WH daily talking points to be fit in perfectly in digestible soundbites to be rebroadcast and published in print by other media outlets.
How do I know that?
Because I watched it for 8 years.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:05 am* fast & furious
* massively lying about Obamacare
* siccing the IRS on the Teas
* spending billions of dollars without Congressional appropriation
* altering laws by fiat
* arresting a man to prove his Benghazi lie was good
* misuse of FISA warrants
* use of the DoJ to find “the goods” on opponents
* waging an illegal war in Libya
* opening the border to illegal immigrants and refusing to follow the law
* releasing terrorists in exchange for a traitor
* secret arms trafficking with Islamic nutbars that ended up being used in Benghazi
* sending “stimulus” money to political supporters.
* negating the pensions of non-union GM workers while preserving union pensions 100%
* domestic surveillance beyond what was authorized
* making a would-be secret deal with the Russians to change policies after the election
* allowing the Secretary of State to pocket millions in foreign emoluments
* federal job offers to politicians in exchange for favors
There are probably more
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:07 amWhoa. When did the government bureaucracy get put in charge of impeachment? Last I heard, it was the House and Senate.
So, Dave, it is the House and Senate in charge of the Mueller investigation that you and other cite as coming up with impeachment evidence? News to me.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:09 amWhat?
You’ve named your own polyps? Or is that a list of your personal beefs with a black man?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:10 amC’mon kevin..
Pick your best shot at impeachment.
No shotgun blasts..
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:14 amI’m not going yo negotiate with myself so make your best prosecutor’s war face and case.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:16 amPick your best shot at impeachment.
No shotgun blasts..
You laughed when I said a dozen, now I list too many?
What a flaming waste of an assh0le you are.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:22 amI said be specific and vagaries continue. If you can’t substantiate your Trumpian vomits don’t spew..
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:31 amIt’s what it’s good for:
https://www.weaselzippers.us/370177-white-haouse-plans-on-using-wolff-book-to-keep-west-wing-doors-open/
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:33 amStylistically he’s better:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/online/pompeo-to-chris-wallace-i-wont-dignify-question-about-very-stable-genius-tweet-with-response/amp/
narciso (21eb6d) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:36 amKevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:22 am
I know It is your time, Kevin, to waste; just know that you waste it.
felipe (023cc9) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:42 amAsk and he shall receive.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:45 amMethinks m’ladies doth protest too much.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/07/cia-boss-pompeo-vehemently-defends-trump-against-fire-and-fury-calls-book-absurd.html
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:47 amHere’s the guy who says Trump is crazy. Rep. Jamie Raskin [jpg]
Nice comb forward there, Jamie.
Dude can’t even surrender to reality with regard to his forehead, much less anywhere else.
But much like those sad political reactionaries who claim gender is a matter of opinion, Jake Tapper buys into the pathology, because it’s convenient for his paycheck.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:52 amYour list, as I expected, consists mainly of policy disagreements and false assertions.
If Obama had personally ordered or approved the IRS shenanigans, I would consider that impeachable. But everything I’ve read says he didn’t.
This one made me laugh:
The guy in question was an immigrant, on probation after serving time for felony bank fraud and other serious crimes. He was arrested for violating the terms of his probation, and pleaded guilty to everything he was charged with.
Many of the items on your list were litigated, in one form or another, and Obama won some and lost some.
Other than killing Bin-Laden, I can’t think of anything Obama did, or tried to do, that I approved of. He certainly cut corners and did things that an unbiased observer (if there were such a thing) could take exception with. Still, I don’t think Obama is a fundamentally evil man. Misguided as hell? Yes. Partisan? Yes. But he doesn’t sink to the Trump/Clinton level of moral depravity, in my view.
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:52 am55. Glad to hear you don’t wish the other candidate won. Sorry my mockery was unclear.
crazy (d99a88) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:56 am, I don’t think Obama is a fundamentally evil man. Misguided as hell? Yes. Partisan? Yes. But he doesn’t sink to the Trump/Clinton level of moral depravity, in my view.
Definitely moral equivalence for the ostrich hardware.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:08 pmYou’re entitled to your opinion, Dave and so are we. I think the half black, half white, half Christian, half moslem, half Hawaiian, half Kenyan guy brought up by and surrounded with communists, who studied at a madras then miraculously got in to Occidental then Columbia and finally Harvard with no grade records or known associates, although odd in itself is not the Trump/Clinton level of moral depravity. However, when one adds that to his anti American rhetoric, social and political positions and the inescapable fact the guy may not carry a card but he sure acts and sounds like a commie he then sinks way below anything either Trump or Clinton have ever done, in my view.
You don’t like Trump’s morality in regard to women but like Clinton that has absolutely no bearing on his ability as president.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:09 pmThe point , was to cover up an assassination of an American official, by the same forces bel had and co, that Obama had gone to war for. It as if an inc member had killed wolfowitz or bremer
Upon reflection, millers was a gentleman c, however taper doeant deserve any better
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:12 pmYou know, Rear Admiral Ben Burnee Bro, as it turns out, you don’t match the dumb blonde stereotype at all.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:12 pmImpressive.
You don’t like Trump’s morality in regard to women but
There’s that devilish semantics of morality again.
Do you people understand those big words?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:13 pmJake Tapper could be replaced by a squirrel. [jpg]
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:14 pmA twelve minute and thirty-five second ass-kissing. Is Miller’s salary paid by the taxpayers?
On the other hand, Rand Paul’s on SeeBS radio, following Pompeo, was just as effusive if not as long. He said nicer things about Mr. President than happyfeet even.
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:15 pmTelegenics Uber Alles! Our Captain Gobbelled him up like a slice of German-chocolate-cake.
“Everything is Jake.” – Johnny Hooker [Robert Redford] ‘The Sting’ 1973
DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:25 pmHe didn’t ask any substantitive questions, Wallace somehow did.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:29 pmJake the Rapper used to be cool with Tea baggers. They were a fickle bunch who morphed into insane loyalty to Nero the Zero.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:30 pmMr. Trump must be a really fantastic guy for Stephen Miller to speak so highly of him
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:30 pmhappyfeet- Miller was a Porterhouse – Well Done.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:34 pm@86. Miller Time, Mr. Feet? Our Captain doesn’t drink.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:35 pmThis is a grilling, its like a light toasting
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/06/rhodes_obama_says_iran_deal_in_best_interest_for_israel_but_also_says_wh_is_reassessing_relationship.html
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:39 pmHow about some more disinformation and distortions, which should have been the name of Wolff’s book.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:39 pmHe claimed to have traveled “all across America on ‘Trump Force One.'”
That was the point (1:50 in) at which I couldn’t take any more and stopped the video. Did it get worse after that?
Trump Force One. Let’s see — did President Trump do a HALO jump into North Korea and steal the plans for the Death Star on that trip? Or was that the time he personally flew Trump Force One on the strafing run of Vladimir Putin’s yacht?
The thickness of the skin of the President of the United States has to be measured in single-digit multiples of the Planck length.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:39 pmJake Tapper asks a follow up. [jpg]
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:41 pmThere isn’t a double standard its more like a triple, miller wee sessions man not cannon btw
https://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/abc-spikes-tappers-fast-and-furious-question-obama-makes-time-exchange-childrens-books
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:43 pmIt got much, much worse, Beldar. Miller could have been Brian Williams’ daughter on the Lena Dunham show. (An oblique reference which is better not to understand.)
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:44 pm“Benny Avni
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:46 pm@bennyavni
George Stephanopoulos just interviewed @nikkihaley , asked several qs about Fire&Fury, which she says she didn’t, wouldn’t read. Not one q about Iran (Haley led a UNSecCou session on it Friday) #WashingtonPriorities“
Let the possible spawn of Giovanni Ribisi and Jonathan Banks have his day, he will have to be putting lipstick on this pig soon enough: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/07/martin-omalley-trumps-racist-border-wall-ok-trade-democrats-wanting-daca-dreamers
urbanleftbehind (1d75fb) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:46 pmThat is a scary image you conjured up, urban
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:47 pmBannon chimes in.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:49 pm74 – “Your list, as I expected, consists mainly of policy disagreements”
Well yes, if lying to the people, cover-ups and unlawful treatment of your political opponents is your policy.
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:52 pmOscar news update:WELCOME TO THE BACKLASH TO THE BACKLASH: Academy members now regret banning Weinstein so hastily.
Now that Hollywood has pretensions of morality, they worry how to fill the seats with the perverts excluded.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:58 pmharkin very concerned about the President lying
Davethulhu (99cc74) — 1/7/2018 @ 12:58 pmIf Obama had personally ordered or approved the IRS shenanigans, I would consider that impeachable. But everything I’ve read says he didn’t.
Sure and Henry II had nothing to do with killing Thomas Becket.
The minions do not have to be told who to screw over, all they have to know is who the boss dislikes.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:02 pmI have a question for all those who think Trump is the worst President ever: Name a Democrat who you would rather see in office today. Should be easy if Trump is so bad.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:06 pmI’m wondering where that magic couch is that Mike Wolff could sit on long enough to write a book?
If I fast forward though seven seasons of “the West Wing” you think I’ll find it?
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:10 pmHasn’t Elon Musk come up with something to replace Sunday shows yet?
Perhaps given enough time these man animals can be trained for useful tasks.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:13 pmPerhaps given enough time these man animals can be trained for useful tasks.
The best argument against AI that I’ve seen..if you feel humanity should prevail.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:18 pmTeddy Roosevelt
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:18 pmFranklin D. Roosevelt.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:19 pmGeorge McGovern
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:20 pmAbraham Lincoln
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:20 pmNot necessarily in that order..
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:21 pmI liked the fact that each one kept talking. The interview did not end well.
Miller said a few things that fit in with Trump (the words “fiction” and “genius,” which he modified to political genius) but most of it was agood defense.
In fact not good enough:
There’s no way the Russians were walked up to Trump on the 26th floor because they ahd nothing to say! They delivered no dirt. But Miller is cautious.
He also repeats himself. About how Trump would get a news report and wrote 10 paragraphs (10 paragraphs? Did he write out his speeches?) for the next rally.
Miller probably talks like a robot all the time.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:21 pmForget those convenient political id’s like democrat..nonsense.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:22 pmTeddy and Abe were Democrats? Did or know that.
How about LIVING Democrats?
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:27 pm“harkin very concerned about the President lying”
IOW – “for my next trick, I will make my comment about policy disappear”
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:28 pmDid *not* know that…
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:28 pmI know Abe Lincoln is popular and all, but didn’t he invent the income tax. It took Woodrow Wilson to make it an institution, but it was Abe who gave the vultures a taste.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:31 pmYes, I guess Trump’s lying is more of a personal policy than a Presidential one.
Davethulhu (99cc74) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:33 pmSeen on the curb out in front of the White House. [jpg]
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:38 pmIf that’s the Kellyanne couch from the HBCU meeting, it’s no lie!
urbanleftbehind (1d75fb) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:45 pmI guess its why her interview isn’t featured on mediaite or right scoop:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:46 pmabcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-white-house-staff-love-country-love-president/story?id=52181184
Flex those grey cells..push beyond…
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:48 pmMore delusion. Tapper was the only guy in the press room who routinely put the screws to Obama and his spokesholes. You are a sad partisan back with no memory.
Patterico (fcc13e) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:50 pmOT for this post, but relevant to the recent thread on now-withdrawn U.S. District Court nominee Matthew Petersen: The Houston Chronicle today has a good write-up on the current Chief Judge of the Southern District of Texas, Hon. Lee H. Rosenthal, a friend and former colleague who to me exemplifies the kind of person whose appointment to the federal district court bench best serves the United States and its people. On the spectrum of preparedness and fitness to be a federal trial judge, she was at the extreme opposite end from Petersen, and now she’s universally respected among bench and bar.
I’ve counted myself among her fans, and been fortunate to call myself a friend, since literally her first day as a practicing lawyer: After spectacular undergrad and law school careers (including a law review editorship at Chicago), she clerked for then-Chief Judge John R. Brown of the Fifth Circuit and then joined Baker Botts’ Trial Department in the fall of 1978. As it happened, on her first day of work, her very first assignment on behalf of the firm was to interview me — then a second-year law student at Texas Law School who’d flown to Houston to interview for a summer clerkship for 1979. One of the people quoted in the Chronicle article, Bill Barnett, was then the head of Baker Botts’ employment committee, and he assigned Lee to interview me because he knew I expired to very much the same career path upon which she was embarked, a couple of years in front of me. It was an inspired choice, and I ended the interview absolutely delighted to have met her: I was absolutely convinced that she was going to be one hell of a fine lawyer, probably a judge someday, and that I would be very lucky indeed to work there with her and her likes. And as it turned out, I was, from 1981-1987, when we were colleagues who’d practice our closing jury arguments on each other.
Because she’d been focused since early law school on pursuing a career as a trial lawyer, from the first day I met her, on literally her first day as a practicing lawyer (not counting clerkship, which isn’t technically considered the practice of law), she was already better prepared to preside over a federal district court than Mr. Petersen. She’d seen trials as a summer clerk; her law school courses included the requisites for a trial practice, and she’d done moot court and mock trial; she’d read hundreds of federal district court records, including trial testimony, in handling appeals in the Fifth Circuit, while watching a masterful and charismatic chief judge run that circuit court (then the largest in the nation, spread from Texas to Florida); and she had apprenticed herself to the very best trial lawyers she could find, from whom she’d already begun soaking up the lore and legend of the trial bar. Within a matter of a few years, she’d built on that base to become a crackerjack trial lawyer. And now she’s a crackerjack federal district judge, a trouble-shooter chosen by her colleagues on the bench to tackle extra-hard tasks beyond the normal district judge’s workload.
When there are lawyers as well prepared as she was for the very limited number of such federal district judgeships — especially in as uniquely crucial a judical district as the District of Columbia — it just won’t do to pick some nice guy who impressed the WH counsel when they were commissioners on the FEC together, not if that nice guy hasn’t ever seen the inside of a courtroom.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:51 pmThe most hated man at Santa Monica High.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-stephen-miller-latest-liar-bigot-team-trump-article-1.2971639
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:52 pm“Donald Trump Jr. is both a patriot and a good man. He has been relentless in his advocacy for his father and the agenda that has helped turn our country around,”
“My support is also unwavering for the president and his agenda — as I have shown daily in my national radio broadcasts, on the pages of Breitbart News and in speeches and appearances from Tokyo and Hong Kong to Arizona and Alabama,”
“My comments about the meeting with Russian nationals came from my life experiences as a Naval officer stationed aboard a destroyer whose main mission was to hunt Soviet submarines to my time at the Pentagon during the Reagan years, when our focus was the defeat of ‘the evil empire’ and to making films about Reagan’s war against the Soviets and Hillary Clinton’s involvement in selling uranium to them,”
“My comments were aimed at Paul Manafort, a seasoned campaign professional with experience and knowledge of how the Russians operate. He should have known they are duplicitous, cunning and not our friends. To reiterate, those comments were not aimed at Don Jr.”
“I regret that my delay in responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding Don Jr. has diverted attention from the president’s historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency.”
“Everything I have to say about the ridiculous nature of the Russian ‘collusion’ investigation I said on my ’60 Minutes’ interview. There was no collusion and the investigation is a witch hunt,”
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:56 pmSo, Ben admits it: No living Democrat would be better than the worst Republican (Donald Trump).
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:56 pmIs the term “Jamo ” one of the typos I’ve been hearing so much about? Or is it plural for “Jamoke”? Interesting that the word came from java+mocha. Arby’s must be doing brisk business today.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 1:58 pm@ Pin: I think it’s a mistranscription of “jamokes,” yup.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:01 pmWhy do we never see dementia Trump in public? I believe the answer is the same reason we never see childish and stupid tweets from the President. Namely, because of course we actually do — and the people who deny that we do have something to gain from telling such obvious lies.
Patterico (fcc13e) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:02 pm– (bumped) from 93
https://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/abc-spikes-tappers-fast-and-furious-question-obama-makes-time-exchange-childrens-books
It doesn’t matter what kind of interviewer Jake Tapper is off stage. As long as he works for CNN he is a hack, whether you admit it or not.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:04 pm@ DRJ: I’m guessing you caught my Freudian typo in #124 above, when I wrote that I “expired to very much the same career path” that Lee Rosenthal was already upon.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:06 pmlol harvardtrash ted got his smarmy ass kicked by a dementia victim
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:07 pmSo nobody has any questions about how Trump Administration tell alls come out before Obama Administration tell alls do?
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:07 pmI included one other link, to show the fiersome tapper.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:08 pmSay what you want about Kitty Kelly. She’s dead.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:13 pmI guess the Obama tell all I said being authored by a guy called The Inspector General.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:19 pmKnees shaky Pin?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:23 pmJust now?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:30 pmhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/07/donald-trump-dangerous-psychiatrist
I’m a little mad at myself for not doubling down on an REIT that lost half its value under Obama but has gone back to the original price under Trump.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:32 pm@129 Beldar
Maybe give the galley one more pass.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:36 pmIf you buy a book on Kindle will it download corrections?
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:38 pmA ray shielded link:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:39 pmhttp://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/sundance-explains-it-all-or-not.php
I can’t wait to see all the psychiatrists defrocked under Trump Derangement as it were.
Pinandpuller (96f68a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:41 pmMaybe give the galley one more pass.
smashed typeface.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:43 pmAsk for more lead in your linotype.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:44 pmI read from David Post at Volohk’s that Trump’s lawyer, in his cease-and-desist-or-I’ll-huff-and-puff-and-blow-yer-house-down letter, demanded this among other things (boldface in the lawyer’s letter):
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:46 pm@ Pin: You can indeed set your Kindle to auto-update its entire digital library automatically and continuously.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:49 pm@136. Kitty Kelley is very much alive. Her old books, no so much.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:51 pmThey still litter public libraries like cobalt 60, so said games Hatfield crazy agreed, long after St martins press posed
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:58 pmY mulched the books
poor kitty
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:00 pmIf Team Trump Legal Team — would that be “Trump Force Two”? has there been a televised competition for this title yet? or is that the Veep’s plane? or is that plane “Pence Force One”? — doesn’t want to subsidize Amazon, they could get a digital version of the book from Wikileaks, according to TheHill.com. But that’s probably not the link that the publisher’s and author’s lawyer will send them; indeed, they’re surely preparing their own C&D letter. (Which they’re obliged to do, lest they waive their intellectual property protections under the law; privately, they’re not too torqued because this will spur more PR, meaning more legal sales overall (even if some potential legal sales are lost).)
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:07 pmI’ve yet to see the infamous cleats up Ty Cobb slide.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:13 pmI have a feeling he won’t agree to a coached bunt sacrifice for the team.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:14 pmTrump inspires loyalty..
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:15 pmI I aging we ate in better shape, than when wrong way pillar chaired the national intelligence council:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pompeo-disputes-nyt-assessment-of-n-korea-threat-stands-behind-intelligence-community/
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:19 pmAs expected he provided no i sight Into the formulation of immigration pause, despite the language was derived from the 2016 omnibus, if this was really bannons voice it wpuldnt be in the 3rd parson
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:28 pmFrom the link you are addressing:
Yeah, I don’t think Mr. Reynold’s is a liar or has much to gain in his assessment of the situation.
For someone that so strongly objects to being called a liar, you sure are free with the label.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:43 pmSmallest violin in the world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/07/saudi-arabia-detains-11-princes-protesting-utility-bills
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:47 pm123 — haha — go watch the linked video of Tapper’s “hard hitting” interview of Ben Rhodes about the Iran deal from 2015.
How about Chuck Todd? Want to see an abdication of journalistic standards? Watch his interview of Wolff today on MTP.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:53 pmExactly as the administration’s mouthpiece act the times, actual
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 3:58 pmLay noted the Jewish surnames of those who considered opposing the deal.
https://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/13/tapper-brazile-forwarding-debate-question-clinton-unethical-troubling-journalistically-horrifying/
https://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/16/abcs-jake-tapper-obama-disses-white-house-press-corps-with-people-et-interviews/
https://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/24/cnn-fact-checks-claim-hillary-clinton-cut-russias-nuclear-arms/
That took me about five seconds. There are probably dozens of examples of Tapper being tough on Obama and Hillary Clinton. The only people who never noticed are hacks like you.
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:03 pmI will say this about Tapper — I really did like him when he was with ABC, and I thought he did a great job when he took over This Week for a period of time in 2010, and ABC screwed up when they didn’t make him the permanent host. If they had, I think he would still be there.
But when he moved to CNN in 2012 — not at first by certainly over time — he began to adopt the more overt political POV of CNN, which clearly leans to the left. Its not as bad as the moonbats over at MSNBC, but they are working pretty hard in second place to catch-up.
But it was an easy transition to make for Tapper, because he got his start in politics working for Dems, and his first assignment as a journalist in Washington was as a writer for Salon.com.
So — speaking of having no memory — lets not ignore Tapper’s history in favor of a few interviews you watched which stand out in your mind.
I was greatly impressed with a 2 hour interview he did with Hugh Hewitt about 3 years ago for his book, The Outpost, which is a great read.
But watch the video Narcisco linked of his interview with Ben Rhodes — two peas in a pod.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:07 pmMaybe if Tapper liked more you’d like him then, given your robust defense of disinformation and deception
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:08 pmIts a manner of emphasis, when a 150 billion dollar is being paid for jack squat, a little more acrutinh is merited.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:16 pmI just did. It looked like a good, tough interview. That you cite this interview as an example of Tapper’s alleged hackery makes me wonder what color the sky is on your planet. Here’s what happened in that interview on Earth One.
I am assuming that the interview in question is the one Tapper did of Rhodes that narciso linked, which is here, about Obama’s Iran deal. In that interview, Tapper starts by challenging Rhodes on an apparent contradiction in the administration’s position. Tapper then says Israelis wants freedom for inspectors and asks: isn’t that reasonable? When Rhodes tries to obfuscate by talking about nuclear facilities, Tapper immediately asks about military facilities, which is the key weakness in the deal. Tapper cites critics saying there are other options besides the ones listed by Obama. Tapper plays clips of Obama saying end their nuclear program, and notes that the deal doesn’t do any of that. Tapper points out weaknesses in the deal after Rhodes tries to defend it.
What on God’s Green Earth is the problem with that interview???
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:21 pmIt’s wearying trying to talk to people who live in a different reality from the rest of us.
There’s a huge hacklash here.
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:23 pm#26-Amen. The establishment views Trump as an usurper, any and all means, nominally legal, re being employed to remove or defang him.
Grant that this was a contentious interview. But Miller, unlike GOPe personnel of the Bush Sr. and Jr. past and the Washington Generals acts of McCain and Romney, is not conceding the assumptions of Tapper specifically and the MFM generally. If you continue to accept their assumptions, you and your policies will be ground to dust.
There are now numerous instances of Wolff inventing, lying and imagining events in his book. If he were a witness in a court proceeding he would be deemed incredible and readily impeached.
Will however acknowledge Bannon being dumb enough to talk to Wolff for any length of time is amazing. For a guy that pretends he is the President’s brain, that’s brainless.
Bugg (2ba2b2) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:27 pmYes the reality, is Obama tried to tear down every institution, he used the justice department to attack law enforcement official so his designated prey was made vulnerable, he created the opioid crisis through pain management rules, he slashed our military tried to tapple our allies from Afghanistan to Honduras, made common cause with our foes in north Korea iran and Cuba, those are just some of the things he did not merely loose talk.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:28 pmHahahaha. They really do eat their own.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:32 pm
#153 -could it be Trump retained Ty Cobb simply because he has a very cool name, Ty Cobb? An attorney so unaware of his surroundings that he would discuss confidential legal matters in a bar over drinks with reporters hovering does not sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Bugg (2ba2b2) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:32 pm
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:42 pmExactly what “explicitly authorized process” are they following that makes it legal? Who is following this Constitutional provision? Who is supposed to? Soros? Congress? Comrade Ben!? Patterico? You will need to show me explicitly in the Constitution where it states that a lawfully elected president can be hunted by the press, celebrities, the media, academia and leftist political enemies without showing one “high crime and misdemeanor”. Dave, if they actually had something he’d already be out, imprisoned and awaiting execution because that’s what they do in banana republics.
Ot this series loosely based on Misha glenny’s book about the various mobs Russian Indian what have you
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2018/01/07/mcmafia-episode-three-good-bad-godmans-whose-side-alex
Previously he has been a propagandist for the balkan wars. That created a lot of businees for certain entities above
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 4:48 pmWho would have thought they would make such a hash of brezit.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:03 pm172
Kishnevi (592104) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:17 pmThis Constitutional process, Hoagie
Re your links:
1. He did a solid job on the Clinton political ad. That’s his job.
2. Brazil embarrassed him and CNN, and confirmed the narrative already out there that CNN was in the tank for Clinton. Had he embraced her, he would have morphed instantly into Lawrence O’Donnell.
3. As for his comment about Obama in the 2012 election cycle, the HotAir post has a deadlink to an old ABC news post. The story came while he was still at ABC. Nothing in the HotAir post provides any real substance to the caption that he claimed Obama was “dissing” the WH press corps by giving interviews to People Magazine and Entertainment Tonight, while doing more than a month without answering any questions from the WH press corps.
How do you think Tapper would handle it if Trump was doing something similar now?
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:21 pmYrs laundering Russian dezinformatya is exactly what the founders intended.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:21 pmYeah . I thought I might have gone too far out on the limb with that Tapper thing. Right at the end.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:23 pmLast time I watched CNN was in the waiting room at the pharmacy.
In my defence
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:25 pm166 — LOL.
You accept each question at face value without taking even a moment to consider that each question, posed with a “hint” of combativeness, was actually DESIGNED to let Rhodes trot out the Admin line on each line of criticism they had been facing. The game is given away with the very first question which is clearly intended as an invitation to Rhodes to offer up the Admin explanation about why there is no contradiction between the Iran deal which Israel hated — and now pretty much everyone understands why — and the Obama Admin. claim that Israel’s security was foremost on the US agenda. “Please Ben, explain”, so he does.
Tapper: “And the Israelis have put out a list of things that should be in the final deal, including allowing inspectors to go anywhere anytime… that seems perfectly reasonable, no?”
Rhodes: Well Jake under this deal you will have anywhere anytime 24/7 inspection rights….
Just because an interview doesn’t overtly look like its a series of softball questions, when the result is that the Admin spokesman gets to simply tee up and let fly on one speaking point after another, you can pretty much guess that the producer and interviewee had things arranged in advance.
There’s not a HINT of ambush journalism in any of his interview with Rhodes, and not a single follow up question that challenged anything Rhodes said.
The only regret Rhodes had coming away from the interview is that it didn’t go on longer.
Yep — that’s a grilling.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:34 pmMore delusion. Tapper was the only guy in the press room who routinely put the screws to Obama and his spokesholes.
A very low bar, that “press room”, to make such a point.
If Peter Schweizer, Philip Haney, Gary Byrne, etc. had written anti-Trump books, CNN and Tapper would be slobbering over them. But they didn’t, and they’ve been pretty much ignored.
Why? The Washington Post has an answer:
“But news outlets probably aren’t ignoring Byrne because they don’t want to believe him; more likely, they are ignoring him because they actually don’t.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/29/this-clinton-tell-all-is-an-instant-best-seller-so-why-is-the-media-ignoring-it/?utm_term=.bbffa322d19e
So, there are unconfirmed holes in Byrne’s book, so it’s discredited by the media. There are unconfirmed holes in Wolff’s book, but they can’t get enough of it. Makes sense to me!
But, we’re “deluded”, for all the reasons outlined — starting and ending with “because I said so”, I guess.
random viking (616c92) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:34 pmAs we now know they put Israeli govt officials under surveillance much as was done to page and co, to prevent a contrary line from being espoused. The inspections are indeed a sham as it was in the original framework re north Korea.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:43 pmThe Russian Collusion narrative is proving to be an exception to the Doppler Effect: The faster it goes away the higher the shrieks from the likes of the Sea Org Admiral.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:45 pmHas more of a submariner, iywimityd, so taper isn’t interested in policy, UN
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:50 pmLike dickerson, even taking certain caveats into account.
@181
The answer should be obvious.
Trump is a deeply unpopular president.
Davethulhu (99cc74) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:53 pmHillary, while also deeply unpopular, is not president.
Back to real news, which taper isn’t interested in:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 5:56 pmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/950181185379958784?p=v
The answer should be obvious.
Trump is a deeply unpopular president.
Hillary, while also deeply unpopular, is not president.
Is it really that obvious? Haney’s book was about Obama’s administration, while Obama was president, and Schweizer’s book was written about the presumptive successor to Obama while she was still the presumptive successor, soooo…..
random viking (616c92) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:05 pmLOL indeed. Ambush journalism is always inappropriate, but anyone who bothers to watch the interview can see that your assertion about the lack of follow-ups is false. I already described one such challenge: right out of the gate, Rhodes talks about how the deal gives inspectors the chance to inspect nuclear facilities, and Tapper interrupts to follow up and ask about the military facilities. You can watch the following 15 seconds to see Tapper ask the aggressive, interrupting follow-up question I just described:
You’re not being honest, swc, and it reflects poorly on you. Keep diggin’ that hole!
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:05 pmAll this talk about about Tapper and nobody pointing out that Slobbery Stephen “Junior Yes-Man” Miller did not give Trump a harumph.
Don’t think that Trump didn’t notice, Slobbery Stephen. You watch your ass!
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:06 pm‘…Dementia describes a group of symptoms affecting memory, thinking and social abilities severely enough to interfere with daily functioning. Though dementia generally involves memory loss, memory loss has different causes. So memory loss alone doesn’t mean you have dementia. Alzheimer’s disease is the most common cause of a progressive dementia in older adults [Donald Trump will be 72 in June,] but there are a number of causes of dementia.
Dementia Symptoms; common signs and symptoms include:
Cognitive changes
•Memory loss, which is usually noticed by a spouse or someone else
•Difficulty communicating or finding words
•Difficulty reasoning or problem-solving
•Difficulty handling complex tasks
•Difficulty with planning and organizing
•Difficulty with coordination and motor functions
•Confusion and disorientation
Psychological changes
•Personality changes
•Depression
•Anxiety
•Inappropriate behavior
•Paranoia
•Agitation
•Hallucinations
See a doctor if… memory problems or other dementia symptoms [persist.] Some treatable medical conditions can cause dementia symptoms, so it’s important to determine the underlying cause.’
-source, http://www.mayoclinic.org
Mr. Trump is scheduled for his first physical as POTUS at Walter Reed on January 12.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:12 pmUnconfirmed holes, for example, he told a totally different story about a key event under oath than he told in the book. That kind of unconfirmed hole.
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:14 pmBut Slobbery Stephen’s performance petty much exemplifies the Pro-Trumpers here:
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:17 pm1. Trump is great;
2. No, we won’t talk about anything except how Trump is great;
3. If the conversation goes on, we’ll talk about anything except that Trump is not great; and, furthermore,
4. Trump is great.
#YouKnowWhoYouAre
Patterico is an oasis of sanity in this crazy time. I sincerely want to thank him for calling it as he sees it. I am certain it is not always easy.
I am a Republican that actually agrees with the most of Trump’s agenda but I speak up when I disagree with him. I also cannot ignore the red flags that seem to pop up daily. Senators, staffers and former staffers leveling charges of his unsuitability for office. The tweets. The strange and unpresidential tweets that keep coming. Before that is was spreading false conspiracy theories.
No, I cannot know with certainty if he is unfit to serve. I seriously doubt that he will be impeached. I also don’t know if the 25th Amendment should be invoked…. but I sure am starting to wonder.
noel (b4d580) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:20 pmThere was more promise with dickerson over Wallace (he agreed with Obama cheerleader Mitchell, that Reagan didn’t receive enough scrutiny) re pompeo, and Healey soldiered on, even though it felt like the will folks slander.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:21 pmUnconfirmed holes, for example, he told a totally different story about a key event under oath than he told in the book. That kind of unconfirmed hole.
Thanks for the details, to back up what I had stated.
So, Byrne gets ignored for that reason. And Wolff? Not so much. Ergo…. what I said.
LOL. The man-child is happy. Mission Accomplished.
The anti-Trump crowd still chasing it’s tail around issues of zero substance. Mission Accomplished.
random viking (616c92) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:24 pmTrump makes my taco pop!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:26 pm143 – narciso
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:26 pmI have noticed a few sites have been trashing sundance and CTH. I find he offers information no other sites do. Even though he banned my deplorable self, I still read CTH. Have you noticed the same? I read this morning Clarice had mentioned sundance in a positive way.
Were relying on media matters account to impeach byrne, that intriguing.
They have tried to cut through a bodyguard of lies, re the Russia matter, the source of the fisa authorization, which changes as often as faye dunaways characters account in chinatown.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:32 pmwhat is tragic is all the time waited on this ouvno, because its not like there are real issues at stake.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:34 pmIt’s not so much that Trump is great, its that he beat a bunch of great people in the primaries, then beat the greatest woman democrat ever, winning the presidency, and has been beating the great MSM, deep state, democrats, and haters in his own party to solidify republican control of congress, and enact a laundry list of great conservative policies.
Trump himself though, well, everybody that’s anybody knows he’s just a stupid loser.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:34 pmFor all the talk of that blasted film, for instance, the actual frames from the dso feed on the attack on embassy compound, were scarcely seen even during the trial of Abu khattala, and we know what happened there.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:40 pmSundance?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/07/sunday-talks-maria-bartiromo-vs-trey-gowdy/
I am pretty sure that’s the first time I have seen Gowdy cast as being for Hillary.
Kishnevi (592104) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:40 pmBetween the unrelenting drumbeat of hate for Trump, the recent addition of several radical leftist commenters and the banning of pro-Trump people this site is beginning to resemble HuffPo Part Deux.
So far everything else has failed so now it’s “Let’s call him crazy” time. Couldn’t get him on crimes and misdemeanors so let’s go the 25th amendment rout and see if your allies in the American communist party can gin up enough Soros money to finally get this coup in gear. I am living in interesting times. I never thought I’d see the government overthrown by communists dressed as lawyers.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:40 pmHillary’s apology book sold out in DC too.
Too this day Bezos has it rated 4.6 out of 5 stars.
Then you go down to the reviews of people who actually read it;
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:43 pmthey’re not banned they’re just on mandatory vacation
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:44 pmWhat substantive thing did we get out of gowdys committee, except for the report that fmr regime elenenta had come to the aide of pronto and zeist preciously little, why is that
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:44 pmThank you. It’s not easy — but that’s why comments like yours are especially appreciated.
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:47 pmTrump himself though, well, everybody that’s anybody knows he’s just a stupid loser.
#NotMe. My view is the Bob Uecker view: Anybody with class, brains, education, good looks, good manners, and good character can be elected President. For someone like Trump to do it, that is an outstanding accomplishment.
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:47 pm@136. Kitty Kelley is very much alive. Her old books, no so much.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/7/2018 @ 2:51 pm
Maybe I was thinking of Jackie Collins. Who’s going to write my generation’s unauthorized biographies? I guess there’s that creepy LA medical examiner with the show on Reelz but he only does people like Curt Cobain and Corey Haim.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:54 pmThat’s why I found the cj Craig reference amusing, sorkin apparently not on drugs that time, did some eight years of liberal wishfulment, now josh lyman was as subtle as miller, and his condescension came out in one briefing. Bradley whitford almost always plays the jerk ie: Billy Madison, so its not an actm
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:54 pmTapper gets smoked with the truth. Trump approval 40% or ABOVE election day. CNN approval is literally at 14%. Out of touch, clueless, in a liberal feedback bubble of their own making.
weather channel https (1fe9ae) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:55 pmWell there’s Christopher Anderson, Laurence leemer used to it.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:57 pmGratuitous Golden Globes tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/DaTelemaque/status/950169700172001280
harkin (a76a32) — 1/7/2018 @ 6:58 pmI have suspended one guy for a week for insulting me and banned another for repeatedly calling me a liar.
Stop making it sound like I’m banning anyone who supports Trump. That borders on intentional dishonesty. I give you a lot of leeway because I like you, but you need to stop repeating this falsehood.
Patterico (115b1f) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:01 pmMadam secretary, does the same insufferably earnest liberal take this decade. Scandal does a well even thou its ostensibly a republican adnunistration, but its more grand guignol.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:01 pmI emailed gowdy and mentioned were on to his losing schemes.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:02 pmIn much the same way, that whitey bulgier got away with so much death and misery for so long, and no they never considered putting in an undercover agent like in the departed. The closest truth was John connolly who was like Matt daemons sgt Sullivan who tipped whitey off.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:08 pmThat taco comment is disturbing my chi.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:09 pmKitty Kelley. That’s whom Paul Rand was comparing “Swords of Covfefe” (my preferred title for Wolff’s book) to on SeeBS radio this morning. How come you didn’t think of it first, happyfeet?
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:10 pmGowdy and Issa couldn’t possibly have been trying their hardest for the country on the Bengazi disaster. More like they were trying their hardest to cover Hilary’s largeass.
mg (8cbc69) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:10 pmWell issa hired his own bannon bardella from the daily caller, who then moved to to breitbart AMD then denounced sane
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:15 pmif your allies in the American communist party can gin up enough Soros money to finally get this coup in gear
Which would make Hillary POTUS…
Reality check
The order of succession is currently:
Vice President Mike Pence.
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin.
Secretary of Defense James Mattis.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
So either the Democrats must win a majority in the House and a supermajority (is that even mathematically possible)in the Senate, or get GOP co-operation, to oust Trump, so they can install Mike Pence in the Oval Office.
Kishnevi (592104) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:21 pmJoan Collins should be preemptively rolling over in her grave over that new Dynasty, let me tell you.
These dog breeder friends of our family got divorced many years ago. I got custody of their sweet Sheltie named Fallon in the deal. Little broken hearted Julie talked me into periodic visitation of Fallon. I couldn’t really abide her coming back home smelling like cigarettes and not minding so I had to put my foot down.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:21 pmActual criminal offenses( blackmail, abuse, property fraud, insecure networksfaggetaboutit:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:21 pmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/lukerosiak/status/949354387972984832?p=v
She’s still alive, and ages a Tory grand dame, perhaps even a brexit supporter, which can’t really be said of the current prime minuster
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:23 pm“Swords of Covfefe.” Brilliant!
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:25 pmHenry II explicitly ordered Thomas Becket’s death. And he later abased himself to ask and receive forgiveness for it.
I don’t see the analogy. You seem to be saying: If an appointee decides, entirely on their own, to violate the law, Obama is guilty because the appointee must have read his mind and received telepathic instructions.
Don’t you mean “name ANOTHER Democrat who you rather see in office today”? Inasmuch as Trump is a life-long Democrat himself, who endorsed Hillary Clinton for president and bankrolled Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Kerry, Carter, Rangel and Weiner?
But this looks like a fun game. Let me play too! If Obama is so bad, name a North Korean who you would rather see in office today.
Admittedly, the analogy is flawed, since Obama is not a North Korean himself, but Trump IS, and has always been, a Democrat.
Why should we name Democrat replacements when there are plenty of fine Republican alternatives?
But if you want (living) Democrats, I have at least half a dozen acquaintances (who are not politicians) who I would prefer to Trump. If you want national figures, off the top of my head, I can name:
Zell Miller
Bill Foster (Illinois congressman*)
Colin Powell
Joe Lieberman
I would likely disagree with all of these guys on various issues. But I wouldn’t worry about them blundering into a nuclear war or taking a dump on the political fabric of the country.
(*) Foster is a physicist and former colleague (he was finishing his PhD just as I started); I haven’t spoken to him in almost 20 years, but he still owes me a bottle of wine from a bet he lost…
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:28 pmGeneral flynns real offense wee not lobbying for turkey, without the propercpaperwork, but in the end sticking up for iatael, when Obama was trying to throw it under the bus, as he left office
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:35 pmSpeaking truth to power,when Obama was pretending Al queda was on the ropes, when it clearly was not.0
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:39 pmTrump is not a life long Democrat.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:42 pmGeneral Flynn’s real offence was agreeing to black bag Gulen for $15 million.
Davethulhu (99cc74) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:43 pmmore.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:46 pmThat would have been on his plea agreement don’t you think, besides gulen whose proselityzung network allowed erdogan to take power, is protected.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:47 pmYes Erdogan just wanted Gulen brought back so he could give him a big hug and a kiss.
Davethulhu (99cc74) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:50 pmNo, much like trotsky, he profited from the others efforts:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/mike-pompeo-north-koreans-trying-to-come-up-for-air-as-theyre-being-strangled-by-trump/article/2645214
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:52 pmSo hes a Jedi: a little like Poe dameron:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/berkeley-linguist-trump-has-the-power-to-control-tens-of-millions-of-brains-via-tweets/
Can they stop killing franchises.?
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:58 pmHow far down the line is the Secretary of Education? Just in case the Cylons attack.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:06 pmAll the way down, next to energy and homeland security.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:08 pmFifteenth. Never mind.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:08 pmHey. Ben Carson at HUD is number 13.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:11 pmThis is really unfair. Many of us were pointing out Trump’s obvious mental illness more than two years ago.
His tragic spiral into the terminal stages of psychosis since taking office saddens us all.
It’s time to grant the poor man some well-earned relief from the stress that has reduced him to his present, gelatinous state, and give him the opportunity to receive the intensive psychiatric care he so desperately needs. With round-the-clock medication, therapy and protective restraints, there’s every reason to hope that his condition may eventually stabilize.
Dave (445e97) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:15 pmlike harry lime on the ferries wheel:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:20 pmhttps://babalublog.com/2018/01/07/iran-gets-the-cuba-treatment-the-world-looks-the-other-way-as-iranians-fighting-for-freedom-are-crushed/
Layers of editors
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/01/07/fire-and-fury-falsely-claims-john-boehner-resigned-in-2011-other-editing-errors-n2431283
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 8:44 pmWhy are people so surprised? Gowdy is now stage 2 or stage 3 Lindsay Graham. I guess shelling the daylights out of Sumter affected the local seafood.
urbanleftbehind (1d75fb) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:05 pmI think Trump knows where his faculties are headed and he’ll do one better than Reagan (“we got Amnesty and Iran Countra because the old man stayed longer than he should”) hence my F-U reelection and Feb. 2021 resignation prediction.
urbanleftbehind (1d75fb) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:07 pm
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:11 pmNo you weren’t. Two years ago you didn’t give a rats a$$ about Trump. You, like your allies on the radical left are seizing the only thing left before you have to admit defeat and it all boils down to a leftist coup. You hate Trump and the conservative agenda he is instituting and will say or do anything to stop him from MAGA. He has done absolutely nothing as president to call him on so you want to call him because he’s obnoxious. Everything he’s done has been good for America from pulling out of the climate ruse to lowering taxes and cutting regulations so that makes him “unfit”. So you and your commie compatriots don’t like his tweets. So now tweets are an impeachable offense. The only people unstable around here are the those who want to topple the government instead of waiting for the next election. You are turning America into a banana republic. You will end up with a government chosen by leftist lawyers from Harvard and Yale which is probably what you deserve.
Amnesty wee in the 1980 and 1984 platforms as for Iran contract which is pocket change compared to the roses deal, there were a number of other approaches, one directed by Al hug another by Ted Kennedy.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:17 pmTwo million less on food stamps or so I heard on the radio tonight.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:32 pmI made myself watch the whole Stephen Miller interview. Watched it on the big-screen with HD resolution and a good-quality sound system. Three observations:
(1) He really did say “Trump Force One.” He paused, significantly and for emphasis, before he said it. It was very obviously not a misstatement, but a deliberate attempt at a witticism.
Would any Trump supporters care to weigh in here on the dignity — or even the grammatical nonsense — of this phrase, as used by a “senior advisor” to the POTUS sent to appear on his behalf this morning on CNN?
Friends and neighbors, there’s your evidence of the personality cult. It’s based at about a four-year-old’s level. It’s undignified to the point of repulsiveness, as Miller himself is in general.
(2) Miller’s animatronic programming hiccuped when he began trying to recycle, literally word for word and phrase for phrase, the talking point he’d opened the interview with (about being on the campaign plane and watching Trump’s genius).
(3) Miller is exactly as batsh*t crazy as Bannon — the guy he was sent to simultaneously insult as a traitor while pretending he’d never been in a position to betray — and just as certain as Bannon was to self-immolate. I’m enjoying watch Bannon hit every branch on the way down, and I’ll enjoy it when it’s Miller’s turn too. The other person Miller reminded me of today — in terms of his manic interruptions and long, run-on streams of verbiage, with abrupt and always self-obsessed non sequitur transitions — was Anthony Weiner. Miller hit “Baghdad Bob” levels of hysterical asshattery in that interview.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:32 pmKitty Kelley. That’s whom Paul Rand was comparing “Swords of Covfefe” (my preferred title for Wolff’s book) to on SeeBS radio this morning. How come you didn’t think of it first, happyfeet?
nk (dbc370) — 1/7/2018 @ 7:10 pm
Sinatra was supposed to this mobbed up guy and Kitty Kelly laughs last. Maybe Frank thought she was dead too.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:37 pmKK probably stopped writing because all of her sources were dead.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:38 pmHere’s Trump’s little secret:
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:41 pmEighty percent of the voters have an IQ under 115. He doesn’t bother with the rest of us. So yes a lot of this sounds like it came out of “The Marching Morons”, but they all vote. See Mencken for an explanation.
Suppose the people who wrote about Henry II and Thomas Beckett rushed to publish?
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:42 pmKK probably stopped writing because all of her sources were dead.
Why would that be a problem? Consider Clifford Irving.
Kevin M (752a26) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:42 pmHe was sessions top aide, in the senate, you do recall when he splayed burned Jim aCosta, some moths back. Issues matter something bannon forgot in this way he is more like mark felt who immolated himself
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:43 pmYeshe has parlayed his earlier fraud into writing about aviation, notably Malaysia flight and the mean IQ of California’s Kevin, who reelected beta max brown is what?
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:46 pmBecket and Henry II were feuding over, among other things, Henry’s decision to have his son Henry (later Henry III) annointed as his designated successor, rex designatus, by the politically compliant Archbishop of York. By tradition and as a matter of formal hierarchy, only the archbishop of Canterbury (meaning Becket) was entitled to perform such ceremonies. Deeply offended, Becket
— The Plantagenets: The Warrior Kings and Queens Who Made England, by Dan Jones (2013).
If one asks oneself what miserable drones and traitors Donald J. Trump has nurtured and promoted in his own household, it’s a damned long list that gets longer every week. As applied to Becket, whom Henry had promoted and genuinely befriended, it was an unfair slur. But yeah, Bannon certainly qualifies as a miserable drone and traitor, and he and Trump utterly deserve each other.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:00 pmTrump force one was what they were calling Trumps private jet during the primaries.
Come on, it’s as cute as a Trump Bear! (you know you want one)
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:03 pmHow about Susan rice and samantha power, they have wrought unconperable havoc from the middle east to west Africa, what exactly is bannons sin that required him to be removed, he chose poorly in his response.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:07 pmHair Force One side by side Hillary’s H8Air One. [jpg]
She’s so jealous. Case of cabin envy.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/7/2018 @ 10:59 pmI finished the book. Not bad.
Patterico (fcc13e) — 1/7/2018 @ 11:22 pmTwo years ago, I was literally unable to sleep at night, worried that this bigoted, ignorant, deranged man would win the nomination and hijack the party.
I wept with relief when Cruz won Iowa (and cursed at the screen as he then proceeded to royally f*ck-up his victory speech…)
Dave (445e97) — 1/8/2018 @ 12:07 amBusiness Insider reports that Miller was politely asked to leave the set several times after the interview ended, but refused, and that eventually security had to remove him.
Dave (445e97) — 1/8/2018 @ 12:13 amR.I.P. Ray Thomas, singer, flautist & voice-of-god poet for The Moody Blues
Icy (1fc769) — 1/8/2018 @ 2:11 amdid we know the whirl is experiencing the biggest listeriosis outbreak ever in the history of food poisoning
almost 10% of those contracting it die completely
they’re still not sure of the source
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 5:01 am“Food poisoning”. We also hear this with e. coli and hepatitis A, which are commonly transmitted through the ingestion of fecal matter. To put this as delicately as possible, just because people put it in their mouths does not make it food. I suspect that a great many restaurant kitchens have been blamed for what went on somewhere else before, after, or even in the middle of, a meal.
Slobbery Stephen Miller needs to keep that in mind. Make sure it’s clean first, Slobbery Stephen.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 5:44 amBusiness insider was created by internet fraudster Henry blodgett, a greater scammer than Michael wolff
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 5:52 amSure ya did cause you’re a friggin’ political genius so when every other person including republicans were laughing at the few Trump supporters around then you were “literally unable to sleep at night”. Really? Literally? Because you knew, over and above 90% of the republicans and 150% of the democrats (that includes dead people and illegals) that Donald J. Trump would emerge victorious over Hillary Clinton (the Smartest Woman in the World™) in electoral votes while losing the popular vote. And if you actually took the time to learn about Trump instead of taking your commie allies word for it you would realize he is neither bigoted nor ignorant. And unless you too are a psychiatrist who diagnoses without meeting the patient and does so from afar you are in no position to diagnose Trump as “deranged”.
You have taken the usual leftist tack. First go after your opponent with an army of lawyers and if that fails call into question your opponents mental health. That’s what communists do when they send people to “reeducation cams”. You leftists use the same system over and over. If you lose at the ballot box start the name calling like a bunch of two year olds, then operatives try to pay off women to say the target “attacked” them or he said something “improper”, then suddenly all his business practices are scrutinized in an attempt to “prove” he is a bad player, then out come the lawyers (Americas new Special Forces Unit) to keep everybody defending against accusations and law suits as Alinsky said: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself”, then bring on all the “professional” groupthink psychiatrists to label the target “deranged”, “unfit”, or whatever mental deficiency they feel they can get away with again using the commie Alinsky’s “Ridicule is mans most potent weapon”. But most importantly “Keep the pressure on, never let up”. That’s what the radicle left with your help and the help of all the #neverTrumpers are doing.
For some reason (maybe because Trump is right about the Deep State and the filth of leftists running the government) waiting until the next lawful election is just impossible. It is much better to usurp the executive with a leftist coup because we all know how well they turn out.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:11 am266, good conclusion/punch line, nk. So you’re telling me there’s a lot of scissoring going on at the empanada and tamale kitchens (cause dudes avoid that duty like…)
urbanleftbehind (1d75fb) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:30 amThey tried to make hay with Trump liking his steaks well done, Hoagie. The crazy old coot! Well done and with ketchup to boot, can you imagine?
Even if you don’t like Trump, this kind of horsesh!t is tedious. He is the President. Discuss his real deficiencies, his actual bad policies, and actual dangers he poses. Don’t try to undermine him with lies.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:32 amSo you’re telling me there’s a lot of scissoring going on at the empanada and tamale kitchens
Well, no. More like what the customers do, under the table, in the restaurant’s bathroom, in their car, behind the dumpster, maybe even in a room, and blame the food the day after. And have “fellow travelers”, ranging from city health inspectors to medicos to the media, backing up their story.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:38 amThe same soviet slevenykia play
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/08/treat-mental-health-talk-against-trump-like-the-coup-attempt-it-is
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:55 amBut this more complete clip shows that Miller got the better of Tapper and Tapper’s reaction was out of frustration that Tapper’s agenda could not be accomplished
Some Cornell Law Professor…
EPWJ (4dc563) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:57 amhttps://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/jake-tapper-cutting-off-stephen-millers-interview-was-not-impressive/
EPWJ (4dc563) — 1/8/2018 @ 6:59 amNk, that sounds like a uniquely North Side or SF-Castro district restaurateur’s constant nightmare.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:12 amNoting that Miller had to get the bouncer treatment, I would have been tempted to brandish a weapon or hold him by the ankles over a balcony and say “I want to find out if a Jewish boy could ever be a martyr for white nationalists”.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:14 amNk, that sounds like a uniquely North Side or SF-Castro district restaurateur’s constant nightmare.
We’re on the same page.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:17 amWhen you see in the news that the kind of lettuce which is suspected of carrying the e. coli is Romaine, you gotta go, “Hmm, who eats Romaine lettuce?” From the link:
“Food item.” Heh!
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:27 amIm glad she wasn’t on the same page as her fellow invitees.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:28 amBut with regard to mass produced lettuce and the likely labor force picking it from the ground, its one Dem interest group pointing the brown smelly finger at the other.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:30 amHis slaughter of good steak is just another feather in his dunce cap.
Is he a high school graduate?
DC: what subtle brain farts differentiate his Alzeimers from his dementia?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:35 amThey should try to bring the iron heel to the screen, and trump should name one of the infrastructure projects arcadia.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:35 amBut I knew a plumber, who was working inside a sewer on the day he claimed the tzatziki sauce in a gyros sandwich he ate infected him with salmonella. His lawsuit against the restaurant was, sanely, found not plausible. (No, I was not his lawyer.) Assholes are ubiquitous.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:37 amNoting that Miller had to get the bouncer treatment,
A ball-gag should be handy next time.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:38 amYes you have idiots everywhere making common cause with the enemy
https://www.timesofisrael.com/opposition-slams-blacklist-barring-members-of-boycott-groups/
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:39 amBet yesterday was the anniversary of the Charlie hebdo attack, or as aphid dubbed a random shooting, it got in the way of his march madness picks you see.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:42 amTrumps drama on teevee makes Federalist wet their tidy-whites.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/08/treat-mental-health-talk-against-trump-like-the-coup-attempt-it-is/
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:43 amHoagie 268,
My carpenter is an engineer, former military, and a lifelong Texas Republican. He does carpentry work now that he is retired because he likes it and wants to keep busy.
He was at my house on a job in February 2016 and we were talking about the upcoming Presidential election, especially how we liked the Republicans running for President and really wanted Hillary to lose. He was very afraid Trump would be the GOP nominee. If that happened, he said he might vote for Hillary over Trump.
I told him I couldn’t imagine Republicans voting for someone like Trump. (Ha, silly me.) His concern about Trump and my stupidity about Republicans is why I remember the conversation so well, two years later. Granted, we aren’t liberal Democrats but I think Dave’s concerns about Trump were felt 2 years ago on the left and the right.
DRJ (15874d) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:45 amThey’ve been trying for a year now against bibi as well? The same agitprop, demonstrations it al, the left is never willing to move on, why do significant elements of the right so blind to realize this?
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:51 amYes. Monstroso Bibi is on deck behind Casey at the Bat.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:57 amEverything about Trumpism is focused on rallying the base. No one else matters; the rest of us aren’t even considered Americans. Conservatism has been like that for years now, but Trumpism is focused on an even narrower demographic — it’s fine if even mainstream Republicans are alienated, as long as the base cheers.
This seems like a way to commit political suicide. But the Americans who are going to pump their fists watching Miller “own the lib media” might constitute a third of the country. And when you add the people who believe that, yes, it would be better if Trump’s aides (and Trump himself) had better manners but who nevertheless think that Tapper is the villain in this clip — why does he have to express so much contempt for the president of the United States, who deserves some respect? — you start approaching 50% of the country, and a clear majority of white voters. Throw in vote suppression, gerrymandering, and lots of plutocrat cash and you have a formula for repeated electoral victories, which is why the GOP mainstream is exceedingly tolerant of this approach.
https://skydancingblog.com
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 7:58 amMore PROBING from Russian cyber hackers?
Your slumber will be rewarded..
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:06 amhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-fire-new-york-city/
Im glad she wasn’t on the same page as her fellow invitees.
I didn’t watch it (never have) but I saw some photos on the internet of some of the Hollywood floozies and the black they were half wearing. How come a guy with his bathrobe open is sexual harassment and a lady with all her attributes in plain sight is not? And we can even be accused of merely looking at them?
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:08 amGreat job Tapper! Where were you when Susan Rice was pedaling the YouTube talking point?
AZ Bob (72146f) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:12 amA sterling example for orwells note on political language, jerrymandering was fine when John Burton did it right, when they redrew pence own district, plutocracy when you spend 1.2 billion and still lose?
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:12 amIn that case, they were covering up al quedas execution of a high value target, a little like the lambrakis affair.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:14 amDRJ, in February, 2016 Trump was little more than a joke and anyone “literally” loosing sleep over him becoming president has a disorder. One of my best friends was and is an ardent Trump supporter and back then all I did was laugh at him. Like you said ” I couldn’t imagine Republicans voting for someone like Trump” and I meant it. As far as I was concerned he was a New York liberal, period.
Bur he ended up winning and I’m not about to throw out the good things I think he’s drone because of the constant drone of disaffected commies/leftists/democrats/socialists/BLM/antifa et al.
Now I’m sure that you and Dave and whomever all think you are on the side of the angels but you’re really on the side of Schumer/Pelosi/Clinton/Obummer and all the other leftists that only like “democracy” when they win. Our country deserves better than a continuous witch hunt moving from target to target in search of the one that “brings down Donald Trump”. And the republican party and conservatives deserve better than fair weather friends who only support those they personally like even as one they personally loathe is doing good conservative work with the SC, judges, taxes, regulations and international dealings.
We don’t have anybody who is willing to do the stuff Trump is because none of them have his balls. They are all too afraid of having happen to them what the left is doing to Trump and they are weak.
Instead of siding with the enemies of America you all should be trying to direct the attention of the administration towards completion of the wall, immigration reform and fighting hard against the leftist trying to tear down Trump. Cause let me tell you, they won’t stop at Trump. They will destroy every non-leftist in and running for public office until they reach their real goal: a de facto one party America. Which they almost accomplished under democrat and democrat lite rule. We don’t need any more democrat lite republicans and we don’t need any more republicans who don’t have the balls for the fight because Trump is “vulgar”. So what? At least he ain’t a flukin’ commie.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:15 amhttp://thefederalist.com/2018/01/08/humbled-hollywood-delivers-surprisingly-restrained-golden-globes/
Thought Hillary stepped on your toes…how about Oprah! ?
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:17 amHoagie is a bitter man.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:18 amWith w, it took a while longer, the first resistance came with Ron susskind the inventor of ‘reality based community’ ghosting Paul O’neill rant, was there a thread about that here.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:24 amPresident Trump’s done more to advance the cause of limited government in one year than smarmy harvardtrash Ted has done his whole life
that’s a sobering thought huh
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:26 amIn fact there was:
https://patterico.com/2004/01/10/oneill-on-bushs-plan-to-invade-iraq/comment-page-1
Mind you there was ascintilla of substance to that book, this time they didn’t even bother.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:28 am
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:31 amYou’re a deluded, judgmental one. I don’t have a “bitter” bone in my body. I hate no one. I covet nothing. I’m talking politics with adults. If you’re going with the personal insults again so will I. I though we progressed beyond that but I guess when leftists are out of ideas (which is always) they revert to their old Alinsky methods.
Thats not obvious in your words. Watch for transient ischemic attacks.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:33 amIts a rather pitiful exercise, fire and fury, sounds like an unimaginative rejected house of cards script,
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:34 amAs a modern day roman a clef it might have has some promise, but its therapy for the resistance, taibbis review confirms it.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:37 amNow for a show even fewer are watching:
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:41 amhttps://www.avclub.com/a-new-star-trek-discovery-finds-the-show-struggling-to-1821854920
Haven’t seen a minute of it, but I gathered from the accusations against Mr. Sulu that they oriented it to people who eat Romaine lettuce?
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:47 amThe mirror universe is an interesting tripe, it was the more inspired part of enteeprise. Jason Isaac’s who belays sicioparh well is the designates mad scientist type.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:50 amCause let me tell you, they won’t stop at Trump. They will destroy every non-leftist in and running for public office until they reach their real goal: a de facto one party America.
Spot on. Anyone who thinks the script would be different if one of the milquetoasts had been elected instead is suffering from dementia.
random viking (616c92) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:51 amFWIW, my sister a straight woman who lives in SF hates Romaine lettuce, but I think more for the fact it might be migrant toilet paper.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:51 amtrope. And enterprise, we were promised this dystopia he hasn’t jailed one reporter yet, biggest letdown since phantom menace
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:52 amWatch the opening montage and penultimate scenes of Homicide the Movie (2000); thats what the 4th-E is planning.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:56 amHoagie, I voted for Trump. I support him when he does conservative things and criticize him when he doesn’t.
How does that make me “really on the side of Schumer/Pelosi/Clinton/Obummer and all the other leftists that only like ‘democracy’ when they win”? What more do you want from me?
DRJ (15874d) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:57 am“I told him I couldn’t imagine Republicans voting for someone like Trump. (Ha, silly me.) His concern about Trump and my stupidity about Republicans is why I remember the conversation so well, two years later. Granted, we aren’t liberal Democrats but I think Dave’s concerns about Trump were felt 2 years ago on the left and the right.”
You have to realize your stupidity was not limited to Republicans.
I was pretty much in the same boat as your carpenter. I also could not believe Trump could win. But not because people would not vote for him but rather that being a businessman with a very uneven history his closet would be full of all sorts of stuff and the Democratic Party PR office otherwise known as the news media would go after him with everything they had.
My mistake was not realizing that the MSMs push to cover him (and secure Hillary’s shoe-in election) actually raised Trumps exposure/stature into the stratosphere. Coupled with working-America’s realization that Madame Corruption was an even worse candidate who would basically be Barack T Firefly’s third term of Free Stuff and HateAmerica, it was enough to tip the scales.
harkin (a76a32) — 1/8/2018 @ 8:59 amIt sounds like any Trump criticism is considered as disloyal and siding with milquetoasts. How did we get to the point that thinking for oneself is dishonorable?
DRJ (15874d) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:00 am“If you lose at the ballot box start the name calling like a bunch of two year olds, then operatives try to pay off women to say the target “attacked” them or he said something “improper.”
– Hoagie
That was Trump’s wife, actually, who said that he raped her. She got paid a sh*tload of money to say the opposite, to preserve a shred of deniability (however implausible) for people like you to hang their hats on.
Leviticus (efada1) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:00 amBack when there were small bookstores in south Florida, I came across idiosyncratic characters like our admiral and have lively discussions. But Ben is a stock character like in the progressive insurance commercial (you wonder why flo is so happy, check their rates)
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:04 amHoagie, you do realize that Pence will step into office if Trump is run out, right? Wouldn’t you prefer Pence to Trump? Why expend so much emotional energy asking everyone to leave Donald alone?
Leviticus (efada1) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:05 amBill Clinton raped his honey boo boos with his crooked herpes penis
progressive trash like Oprah yawned they said they wanted to put on their knee pads and do a blowjob on him
(lick lick)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:05 amIts not a unique point if view, you read it from the local fishwrap to the morning news, to the latest trendy film like the post, to multiplayer videogames where alt rsadan is an Hitler aympathizersm all publications that were in lick step with Obama and would have been the same with Hillary.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:07 amThat’s a fact. The media helped Trump win the primary more than the Deplorables did. And the source of their present dismay is that after they succeeded in putting him on top of the heap, they could not drag him back down.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:08 amMr. Trump’s rivals for the nomination helped him win even more than the media did
lil roob roob had his don rickles meltdown and harvardtrash ted barrelled into Indiana, carly pupperoni in tow, screeching about bathroom trannies
wtf was all that about
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:10 amHappy, he should have done as Rick Perry might have and shot those Oakley-wearing Hoosier meatheads.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:12 amhe made some curious choices
i’m glad he got that whole “president” thing out of his system
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:15 amHoagie, you’re calling people communists and accusing them of plotting a coup. Now, there are certainly people who fit that description. But I’m pretty sure none of them comment here.
Who do you think your attacks on your fellow commenters are persuading? And what are they being persuaded of?
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:17 am…if any of the RGV gaggle could be convinced to do as Martin O’Malley says (see comment #96), he might not be long for Senator either (Beto O’Roarke, Im talking to you!!).
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:18 amWhere Rubio went wrong is when Trump called him “Little Marco” and Rubio did not hold up his thumb and forefinger two inches apart and say “Tiny Donnie”. And where Cruz went wrong is when he did not start calling Trump “Demented Donna” when Trump started calling him “Lyin’ Ted”.
And I don’t think it was out of gentlemanliness on the part of either of them. It was out of obsequiousness. From the very beginning they were afraid to dis Trump because they did not want to alienate his Deplorables. So they let him walk all over them, the sissies.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:21 amWhatever urge you have for pupusas today, dont do it – lots of people doing the Poppy from Seinfeld thang because of this.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:22 amOnly a combat-seeing, dare I say -killing, like our own Rev. Hoagie, could have put Trump in his proper place, ah, the harvest of the post 1973 all volunteer military was the 16 dwarves.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:24 am@ random viking, who wrote (#310):
I’m reasonably sure that none of the other sixteen GOP candidates for the 2016 nomination would have brought Steve Bannon into the White House as a senior advisor.
The mainstream media and the entire political Left was also methodically and enthusiastically opposed, of course, to Bush-43, to Bush-41, to Reagan, to Ford, and to Nixon. We’d have to go back to January 1960 and the end of Ike’s term to find a GOP President of whom that wasn’t true. So I’m quite certain that there would be similarities in any conceivable “script” they’d be following if one of the other GOP candidates had secured the nomination and defeated Clinton.
But of those Presidents, they only got traction in their calls to impeach one of them — Nixon — and it was because of his own excesses and errors.
Thanks for not calling anyone in particular here with whom you disagree a victim of dementia. But I respectfully submit to you that it’s possible to hold Trump accountable for his own foolish screw-ups — of which ever even listening to Steve Bannon, much less inviting him to the WH as a senior advisor, was an extremely prominent one — without thereby becoming demented.
There’s not a single Trump supporter commenting here who’s said, “Yes, well, Mr. Trump made a grievous error in judgment by ever trusting Steve Bannon, thank goodness Mr. Trump has at last come to his senses after this demonstration of extraordinary treachery by Bannon.” That would be a political argument among adults that I could respect. That’s not a call for Trump to resign, much less for him to be impeached. That would be the mildest example of holding him politically accountable for his political misjudgments — which any Trump supporter ought to be willing to do if not part of a personality cult in which their Dear Orange-Topped Leader can do no wrong, but is constantly beset by anti-American traitors.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:35 amNo but there’s Paul O’neill, who was an iconoclast magnate, who felt slighted? There was Walter nickel in the nixon administration, ford had no one of consequence who was fired.
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:53 amO’Neill was super butt-hurt and juvenile but the worst was Scott McClellan
Scotty’s the genius what parlayed his white house experience into a nothingburger job at a no-name university
happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:57 amharkin 315,
I don’t think you understood my comment.
DRJ (15874d) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:11 amBut I think your point is the media helped Trump win. Maybe so but the establishment GOP helped more after Cruz won Iowa. They would have supported anyone to stop Cruz, even Hillary.
DRJ (15874d) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:22 amI was taking the long view, it took a couple of years, with don Reagan certainly
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:45 amI knew Trump would be elected the first time he said “build the wall”. He was uniquely suited for the times as an establishment outsider, talking about all the things he would do that the republicans only TALKED about doing for 30 years. As a non-ideologue he had crossover appeal, and as a very rich man, cannot be bought.
Everyone already knew him, meaning the media cannot be successful in defining him. His pride in his accomplishments, which drives gamma men mad causing them to call him a raft of names mostly centered around narcissist, is what made it probable he would actually carry out his promises. He has too much pride not to.
And I’ve been a happy camper ever since. He has performed admirably. Especially considering the opposition he has faced. What the left has done was expected, what the republican nevertrumpers have done was not, and must be a unique experience in American politics. Especially in light of the impressive list of conservative accomplishments achieved in so short a time.
I feel sorry for you guys so tormented over the man. Hate is such a crippling emotion. I encourage all you suffering so to give up comparing your righteousness to his, and focus on what is actually being done. The scales will fall from your eyes, and you may even begin to understand some things even a hard left Berkeley university professor gets, and find peace.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:55 amEverything helped Trump to win.
The Zeitgeist was ripe.
It’s just as accurate to say the media elected the Chancellor. He was at the right place at the right time. Woody Allen even went so far to say 90% of life is just showing up
Now those mental giants who voted for him I can’t explain.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:55 amBack to the interview on CNN.
Jake Tapper didn’t follow up on some answers taht he should have. Insterad he was intent on saying gotchas to Stephen Miller.
The biggest gotcha he had was this:
Trump has said, in a written statement: (included here)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-president-vs-steve-bannon/549617/
Now just what did that mean?
1. If he meant right now, it could be true, but also didn’t do anything to detract from the credibility of the book. I mean nobody thought the Bannon quotes were authorized by Trump.
And it would be, as someone I think on CBS said last week, like a divorced man saying he had nothing to do with his ex-wife (which isn’t always the case, by the way) OK he has nothing to do with that person, But back then yes, he did, and this person would have inside information.
2. If he meant that Steve Bannon never had anything to do with him or his becoming president, well, that was simply untrue.
Stephen Miller did not want to contradict his boss and he had a problem, because what his boss said was either a non sequitor or a ridiculous and transparent lie.
He seemed to settle on saying that Bannon’s role was greatly exaggerated. (which could easily be argued is true.)
Miller had a dispute with Tapper as to who got him his job (Miller said it was really Corey Lewandowski who got him his job, and he was there before Bannon.)
Miller was afraid to say anything that might later turn out to be untrue and he didn’t even say it was extremely improbable that those Russians had beee marched up to see Donald Trump on the 26th floor (as Bannon was quoted in the book as saying)
Now Bannon says all his criticism, or at least the treason and unpatriotic part, was aimed at Paul Manafort, who should have known better.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:55 amAlthough my Millennial son’s have sectored their thinking to accommodate some hope for the future. It’s scary to think about what’s coming in the next 50 years and even Trump is refuge: even if refuge from reality.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:58 amnarciso @332. Wally Hickel, not Nickel.
Thsi reminds me of that television commercial:
No, it didn’t go like that, but I like that rhyme scheme. I don’t remember how it did go. I liked that parody I said to myself.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 10:58 amMiller did what the trolls of this blog do. It cost CNN twelve minutes and thirty-five seconds of air-time. It gained him a pat on the head and a “Du bist ein gut hund!” from Trump.
nk (dbc370) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:01 am331. Beldar (fa637a) — 1/8/2018 @ 9:35 am
You don’t have to be a Trump supporter to say thsat, but of course nobody really anti-Trump can countenance the idea that he might have come to his senses on anything.
Actually I don’t think he is yet permanently estranged from Bannon, but that would be a good thing. It would be a good thing for liberals to cheer. But I didn’t hear that at the Golden Gloves Awards TV show yesterday (the first part, I didn’t watch past 9 pm or so)
That’s not a call for Trump to resign, much less for him to be impeached. That would be the mildest example of holding him politically accountable for his political misjudgments — which any Trump supporter ought to be willing to do if not part of a personality cult in which their Dear Orange-Topped Leader can do no wrong, but is constantly beset by anti-American traitors.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:02 am263. Dave (445e97) — 1/8/2018 @ 12:13 am
Did he think staging a sit-in was going to force Jake Tapper to put him nback on the air, at least for a few seconds?
He maybe wanted to appeal to somebody.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:10 amno, cnn is a troll operation,
narciso (d1f714) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:11 amwanted to appeal to somebody.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 11
No. Arrogance. A poor substitute for confidence.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:18 amOh please. If your Canadian born hero would have been elected, you would be defending him against any and all charges too. unfortunately, Cruz wouldn’t have accomplished half of what Trump has, unless you count handing out Teddy Bears to Dreamers an accomplishment.
You won’t believe it, but we want what’s good for the country, Trump ‘s the vessel. The movement is bigger than Trump, it predates him, and will outlast him. It’s not a cult, it’s Americanism.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:22 am249. Beldar (fa637a) — 1/7/2018 @ 9:32 pm
I liked that he had the honesty and intgegrity to say that – because I think that’s supposed to be an anti-Trump moniker. Or did Trump call it that?
This was a nickname of his plane when he was a candidate.
He almost said it three times. Tapper shpuld have let him ramble on a little bit and se eif he ahd anything else to say. Or speed it alomgh, but a little bit more politely.
It sounded to me like Miller was out of ideas. Maybe it was like someone else saying uh, uh.
And this looks as wrong as some of the assertions in the book. Yes, Trump may have come up with some things to say about something in the news – but prepare a 10-paragraph statement and deliver it? Wasn’t most of his speaking at campaign rallies ad libbed?
Miller has the same position on immigration as Bannon. That’s what got him where he is. Miller was trapped by Trump’s statement: “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency” which is impossible to parse in any way that both makes sense and is true.
There are many people appearing on these interview shows, though, who can get trapped by feeling they have to defend some statement that can’t be defended.
Tapper and others are used to pinning guests to the wall like that. One timeworn favorite is asking people in they will support the nominee of tehir party for the presidency, and if tehy also will support the best person.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:27 amTrump supporters were the Reaganites, the Minute men project, the TEA Party, all hated by the left and denigrated by the establishment right. Trump is the current incarnation, but the movement is not about Trump, Trump is about the movement.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:33 amOh, I remember this from the interview.
Tapper was asking him about having written the first version of the Comey firing statement. And saying that it gave the Russian investigation as the reason. Miller was speaking indistinctly, but I nmmanaged to get either from Tapper’s response or from Miller rerpezting himself – I think maybe the latter.
Miller said a refeerence to teh Russian investigation wa sin the final version of teh stgatement.,
And it was. It was like anon sequitor. Miller said it was a disclaimer, that Comey wasn’t being fired because of the Russian investigation. (except that wasn’t quite true, but Tapper never got around to that – he was too interested in pinning Miller to the wall about “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency.”)
Trump had written that While he had been assured he was not a target of an investigation (he was still firing Comey)
And what followed was a whole thing about the Hillary Clinton investigation 9writgten from apro-Hillary point of view actually)
A day or two later, Trump confessed to Lester Holt on NBC that indeed Russia was the reason Comey was fired. (And then we had the illegal leak of hsi conversation with the Russian Ambassador)
That does not sconstitute a coverup. First,., it really isn’t enough to cover it up. Second, Trump may have feared Comey would not be impartial and fair. And the other thing si, while Trump may not have colluded, he certainly took political positions amenable to Vladimir Putin (about Syria and Ukraine to soem degree) and we have the question of penetration of his campaign by Russian agents or semi-agents (like maybe Manafort and Flynn) which, while not a crime for him, doesn’t make him look good.
Others, like Marco Rubio, took Trump’s compalint against ckmey toi be that while Cmey had told him he was not target of an investigation (and as amatyetr of fact ahd also told some members of Congress) he wouldn’t say so publicly, and alsow ouldn’t even explain why he would not. Comey I think later testified that that statement might latger become false and then he’d have to publicly announce that Trump was target of an investigation and he didn’t want to do that like he had with Hillary in October.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:38 amYes. Really. Literally.
Two years ago, it was less than a month before the Iowa caucuses, and Trump had been leading every poll since the previous fall. He was favored to win Iowa (until he threw a hissy fit over that mean old Meghan Kelly, and skipped the last debate), and was considered to have a lock on New Hampshire.
Of course not, dumb@ss. (I do my best to avoid personal insults to the posters here, but your last couple posts – back to calling me a liar and a communist – went too far).
I couldn’t sleep because I was sure he would lose an election that should have put a conservative Republican in the White House. But it didn’t take a crystal ball to see that his winning the nomination would create a “lose/lose” match-up in November, regardless.
Dave (99999e) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:38 amBowel movement, is what Trumps about.
Unfortunately y’all have hitched your wagon to this meteorite digging a hole to China.
Your various incarnations and incantations don’t make you invisible, you know.
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:42 amI buy that Dave, there were many saying they opposed Trump because he was the only one that couldn’t beat Hillary. I figured he was the only one that could.
My question now is, now that Trump did beat Hillary, and has accomplished such a conservative agenda, why do you so oppose him now?
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:47 amBurner person, this will be my first and last comment to you. I have no intention of wrestling with you; I don’t care to get muddy, and you enjoy it.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 11:57 amMy opposition is not primary based on his policies, but his (lack of) character and the damage he is doing to conservatism, the Republican party, and the country’s political institutions.
Even so, Trump has accomplished virtually nothing of consequence in his first year.
Give him a point for the tax bill, even though it’s a mixed bag and all he did was sign it. That’s basically it.
The man is toxic, lazy and utterly incompetent, and after shooting himself in the foot for four years, is going to leave us with Democratic super-majorities in Congress and another two-term liberal president.
Dave (99999e) — 1/8/2018 @ 12:20 pm@ TheBas: So your position is that “Trump Force One” = Americanism.
Got it.
Beldar (fa637a) — 1/8/2018 @ 12:59 pm@268
I can’t take this level of irony
Davethulhu (fab944) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:03 pmThat’s what you said two years ago!
#StillNotTiredOfWinning
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:20 pm@356-that was a very, er, immoral summery of what I said.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:23 pmAh, sure. Virtually nothing.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:27 pmOops, let me try that again, virtually nothing.
TheBas (8d01aa) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:29 pmGovernment spending ;
Pull your head out of Jake’s Tapper, Pattericons.
Smells better out here in reality. Like fresh air.
papertiger (c8116c) — 1/8/2018 @ 1:38 pm@362
What are these numbers? They’re not the budget, and I don’t know what else “Government spending” would be.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 1/8/2018 @ 2:41 pmLet me get this straight – you actually believe the government spent 46% less money in 2017 than 2016?
Dave (445e97) — 1/8/2018 @ 2:44 pmGoogle reveals two sites claiming that the $671B number is the amount added to the federal debt in 2017. One comment on another site gives the $1,241B number, but it is not for 2016.
The real deficit numbers (from the White House OMB site, retrieved 5 minutes ago) are:
FY 2016 deficit: $584B
FY 2017 deficit: $602B (note: this is marked “estimate”)
So the Trump administration thinks it topped Obama in spending money it didn’t have…
Dave (445e97) — 1/8/2018 @ 2:59 pmThe numbers are nearly all in now. What they show about what really happened during the eight years that Barack Obama was president is sometimes different from what politicians claimed.
The economy gained a net 11.5 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.1 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million. Premiums rose, but more slowly than before.
The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed.
Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.
Illegal immigration declined: The Border Patrol caught 35 percent fewer people trying to get into the U.S. from Mexico.
Wind and solar power increased 369 percent. Coal production declined 38 percent. Carbon emissions from burning fossil fuel dropped 11 percent.
Production of handguns rose 192 percent, to a record level.
The murder rate dropped to the lowest on record in 2014, then rose and finished at about the same rate as when Obama took office.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/
Admiral Ben Bunsen Burner (b3d5ab) — 1/8/2018 @ 3:07 pmI turned on teh radio in the early in the morning hours this morning – probably about 4 am – and was hearing the interview again.
It turned out to be the Hugh Hewitt show on 970 AM.
It’s available at
https://am970theanswer.com
https://am970theanswer.com/programguidedaily tells me the show is broadcast from 3 Am to 6 AM. But when it is first broadcast? It used to be on around 9 or 10 pm or so.
It reminded me of a few thoughts I had when I heard it first. Miller says some things that certainly are not true.
Then there was some discussion after . Hugh hewitt claimed it would have been a 2-day story but Trump turned it into a 5-day story
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/9/2018 @ 10:55 amThere was some news in the interview. Trump’s mention of teh Russia investigation in the firing letter to Comey was originally intended as a disclaimer.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 1/9/2018 @ 10:56 amJake Tapper interviewing John Kasich today — you know, that big Trump fan.
Once again, nothing but proof of his straight down the middle, honest-broker self. LOL
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 1/12/2018 @ 8:47 pm