About That Der Spiegel Cover…
[guest post by Dana]
So, the cover of Germany’s weekly news magazine, Der Spiegel is causing quite a ruckus:
The cartoon’s illustrator, Edel Rodriguez, who came to the United States in 1980 as a refugee from Cuba, explains the thinking behind his illustration:
“It’s a beheading of democracy, a beheading of a sacred symbol,” Rodriguez said, noting that the Statue of Liberty represents the United States’ history of welcoming immigrants. “And clearly, lately, what’s associated with beheadings is ISIS, so there’s a comparison” between the Islamic State and Trump. “Both sides are extremists, so I’m just making a comparison between them.”
To which Ezra Levant points out the ironic truth of the matter:
Complementing Levant’s accurate and apt observation:
For what it’s worth, what strikes me as ridiculously dishonest about Der Spiegel’s cover, is that it intentionally and conveniently avoids illustrating the damning consequences of Angela Merkel’s decision to put out the welcome mat to immigrants and migrants from a particular region of the world, and the horrific impact that decision has had on the women and children of Germany.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back)
–Dana
The media has no idea why they aren’t trusted, either.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:16 amThe Muslim extremists lack the good sense to commit their rites without a veil of privacy.
n.n (63b344) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:19 amcorrection:
The Muslim extremists lack the good sense to commit their rites with a veil of privacy.
n.n (63b344) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:19 am#rememberthecheesecakefactory
urbanleftbehind (cc75fa) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:20 amGermany’s a sad muslim trashstate yoked to a fascist and unsustainable eu fiasco
plus they pay way way too much for electricities
it deeply sucks to be them
lil krautmonkeys are projecting is all
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:31 amNow it’s time on der Spiegel ven ve dance!
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/sprockets.gif
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:32 amI can’t remember where I found the counter-Der Spiegel cover. I would give attribution if so.
Dana (023079) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:32 ampoor lil krautmonkeys
they’re finding out the hard way that a shared hatred of jews just isn’t enough to tame and assimilate the feral refugee hordes they let frau merkel do all up in it
and it’s making them angry and frustrated
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 10:41 am“(R)idiculously dishonest” seems to be going around these days, but why shouldn’t it be? Their God is dead.
ThOR (c9324e) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:01 amIf one doesn’t learn the lessons of history,
one is destined to repeat the mistakes,
they say.
I think Germany and much of Europe must have learned the wrong lessons from history,
and are making new mistakes,
and are proud of it.
Fwiw, spoke to a friend who has worked as a missionary to Muslims in North Africa and the US for decades, now working with refugees from Iraq and Syria, among others,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:03 amhe said that personally he thinks Trump’s actions are reasonable and correct,
even if communicated (and implemented) poorly.
This is the Ghost Dance of the new millennium.
ThOR (c9324e) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:04 amI’m not sure the source of the alt-cover wants to be known, I think that is probably “targetable” material.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:05 amStuff like this helps the Germans pretend that they’re not a nation of gelded oxen where the “men” pee sitting down.
nk (dbc370) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:23 amGermany seems to be forever trying to make up for their Great Sin. Similar to the United States in that way.
Dana (023079) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:30 amThank you for posting this Dana. I’d love to see this comparison go viral!
justine (e7bdc0) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:39 amSitzplinkers – My favorite German word. So rarely we get to use it in a sentence.
I think of it like a “keep off the grass” sign. The etiquette Der Speigel is , I don’t know.
Is this the Middle East edition?
Their message is uh, you Muslim refuse the USA is closed to you. Our German girls are good sports and willing to take one for the team.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:40 amWhat would be the German equivalent of the Statue of Liberty? A beer hall strumpet with a thick layer of Moulon Rouge make up, applied with a trowel, vaguely resembling Angela Merkel?
Maybe
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:47 amWhomever did that re-draw better run for cover (no pun intended).
Unless I’m mistaken, the head on the alternative cover is taken from the winner of the “draw Muhammad” contest.
If the faithful from the Religion Of Peace see this, heads rolling will be their demand.
Harkin (470cbb) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:49 amIf one knows David mediankritik one isn’t surprised.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/4/2017 @ 11:56 amNot to quibble, but don’t they usually stone women? I want to be culturally sensitive.
Pinandpuller (ab4c3b) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:02 pmThe Statue of Liberty is a three-fer:
1. No representations of living creatures, graven images etc.
2. No other gods (Roman deity).
3. Single woman in public unveiled and unaccompanied by a male relative.
Pinandpuller (ab4c3b) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:07 pmyou know that Muslim edict where they forbid first person descriptions of the profit Mohammad?
Their religion is taken or derived directly from stuff Mo said and did.
That means in his heart Mo’s greatest fear was that his people would rise up with wanted posters, falling upon him hiding in his tent, dragging him out to administer justice.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:08 pmSorry. Strayed off the topic there.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:22 pmEdel Rodriguez seems to fit the bill of “second generation syndrome.” A child grows up in a free country, and learns that his birth country is a failure and his new country is ideal. After all, why else would his parents have come here?
So the child becomes hypersensitive and retreats into the purity of fanaticism. A few decades, ago this guy would have joined the Red Brigade or Baader Meinhoff.
Patricia (5fc097) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:30 pmwe don’t need no stink in lectures from nazi germany!
no nazi (5b639e) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:33 pmgermany’s a wholly amoral genocidal slutstate anymore
which fortunately for the whirl is mostly concerned now with genociding native germans
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 12:46 pmArtistic license be damned.
President Trump never, never ever buttons his suit jacket.
“On Sunday, August 13th, 1961, the eyes of America were on the nation’s capital, where Roger Maris was hitting home runs #44 and 45 against the Senators. On that same day, without any warning, the East German Communists sealed off the border between East and West Berlin. I only mention that to show the kind people we’re dealing with– REAL SHIFTY!” – C.R. MacNamara [James Cagney] ‘One, Two Three’ 1961
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/4/2017 @ 1:10 pmIs “The Jury Talks Back” now requiring a sign in? I try to go there and I get this:
https://patterico.com/jury/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fpatterico.com%2Fjury%2Fwp-admin%2Fpost.php%3Fpost%3D2557%26action%3Dedit&reauth=1
on a WordPress sign in page.
Bill H (971e5f) — 2/4/2017 @ 1:30 pm28.Is “The Jury Talks Back” now requiring a sign in? I try to go there and I get this:That happens to me too sometimes.
Save a link to the JTB home page and use that to go there – so far that’s never failed for me.
harkin (afc7a6) — 2/4/2017 @ 1:35 pmharkin and Bill H,
Fixed now.
Dana (023079) — 2/4/2017 @ 1:36 pmOf the 89 domestic victims of Islamic terror attacks in the last eight years, 85 died in attacks perpetrated by US citizens.
Trump is tormenting thousands of innocent Muslims in a made-for-TV public relations stunt for the gratification of his white nationalist cheerleaders, not to address any real crisis or wave of Islamic terrorism committed by immigrants. (If it were a legitimate security measure, the Department of Homeland Security might have been consulted…)
The ISIS beheadings are, similarly, flashy recruitment propaganda intended to motivate their followers.
Of course, ISIS is killing real people, while the Spiegel cover shows Trump murdering a symbol.
Lies.
Also, One, Two, Three: best movie evah.
Dave (711345) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:25 pmtormenting is it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:28 pmIt seems like Trump isn’t disturbed by the blood coming out of her…whatever.
Pinandpuller (f88b8c) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:30 pmCallimachi, in Carlos slims shows how these known wolves have operAted.
narciso (d1f714) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:39 pmHey, my mouth really does taste like copper!
Pinandpuller (f88b8c) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:42 pmDer Spiegel gave President Mr Donald some yellow hair.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:43 pmI love how the Germans have hundreds of years of resisting foreigners, yet now they want to lecture us about accepting foreigners from terrorist-sponsoring nations.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:46 pmMy high school English teacher would tell me this is an example of irony, and of being jerks, too!
Known wolves or lone wolves?
Pro tools can make 20 lone wolves sound like Phil Spector. And 20 times as deadly.
Pinandpuller (f88b8c) — 2/4/2017 @ 2:51 pmDo not hijack Dana’s thread to continue a stupid argument on a thread I closed for a reason.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:03 pmplus i have to come up with some kinda quesadilla recipe
i hardly have any groceries cause of I’m going to Disney Whirl next week
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:04 pmoh.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:04 pmJoining ISIS is as easy as the Columbia Record and Tape Club used to be. And as easy to deny.
Sue me for Van Halen II, Foreigner IV and KISS Destroyer, I’m only 16 years old!
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:05 pm@31. OMG, an alternative truth!
But how long was it buttoned? I stand corrected.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:06 pmMr happyfeet, Orlando in winter is nice.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:07 pmOrlando in summer is not so nice.
yes yes it’s gonna be super temperate and fun
i fly on the sunday of the bowl that is super so it should be less nasty than usual
and weekdays in february you get to see a LOT of the magic
and i need me some goddamn magic right now
President Trump’s enchantments and beguilements are beautiful and exciting but
i wanna see pooh bear
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:12 pm@ Patricia,
It is akin to how Americans (mostly young Americans) can romanticize just about anything, including but not limited to Che Guevara and Castro, among others. It’s just ironic that Rodriguez is from Cuba.
Dana (023079) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:17 pmSurely this is in line with the President’s plan to export more American products overseas: a German ad peddling Trump Steak Knives.
They slice, they dice and can even cut through solid copper plating.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:19 pmGermany has enough on its hands and this is clearly a distraction and intended to deflect blame from Merkel’s hand-made unmitigated disaster.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:23 pmAnd the Statue of Liberty, made overseas with foreign labor, is a perfect example of the problems Donald Trump was elected fix.
Dave (711345) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:32 pmYou think Merkel’s government is responsible for the Spiegel cover?
Dave (711345) — 2/4/2017 @ 3:36 pmNo, Dave, I’m saying it has their Stamp of Approval.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:19 pm@49. And assembled by immigrant laborers in NY harbor on a pedestal paid for by the pennies of American school kiddies.
“It’s A Gift” – WC Fields 1934
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:35 pmI am Dave. I think Merkel’s government deposited 50 million Euros in a numbered Swiss account for Spiegel to embarrass Trump, humiliate America and get the spotlight off the spectacular failure of her policies and the death and destruction they have wrought upon the German people.
Unless you have some proof she didn’t?
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:38 pmIf they wanted to distract attention from the 7 Islamic terror attacks in Germany since 2010, wouldn’t it be better to have, I dunno, a soccer player or an apple strudel on the cover?
Dave (711345) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:39 pmIf they were playing to gay priests, bakers or faux conservatives I guess they might do that, Dave.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:50 pmGosh, no I don’t. I also don’t have any proof that Donald Trump didn’t commission the cover to make himself look good in the eyes of his supporters. That makes it equally likely, right?
There have been a total of 15 Germans killed in seven Islamic terror attacks since 2010. There are over 700 murders/year in Germany from all causes. So out of well over a million refugees (900,000 admitted in 2015 alone) seven have committed acts of Islamic terrorism.
There is also no evidence of any significant increase in crime due to the immigrants. The German police say immigrants commit crime at the same rate as native Germans.
Dave (711345) — 2/4/2017 @ 4:52 pmHere’s ex-president Barack displaying the rare flash of outrage at German editorial decisions. [jpg]
They got a rise out of ol’ unflapper. Congrats der Speigal.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 5:23 pmThis is kinda sorta Lady Liberty ish from Europe. [jpg]
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 5:39 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_sexual_assault_in_Egypt
The mass sexual assault of women in public [or Taharrush] has been documented in Egypt since 2005.[n 1] Typically acting under the protective cover of large gatherings, assailants encircle a woman while outer rings of men deter rescuers. The attackers regularly pretend to be there to help the women, adding to the confusion. Women have reported being groped, stripped, beaten, bitten, penetrated with fingers and raped.[2]:38–41 The attacks have been described as the “circle of hell.”[n 2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
During the 2015/2016 New Year’s Eve celebrations, there were reports of mass sexual assaults, at least 24 rapes, and numerous thefts in Germany, mainly in Cologne city centre. There were similar incidents at the public celebrations in Hamburg, Frankfurt, Dortmund, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart[25] and Bielefeld.[10][26][27] For all of Germany, police report that ~1,200 women were sexually assaulted and estimate that at least 2,000 men were involved, acting in groups.[28]
Dave statistic doesn’t treat gang rape as a crime.
Bill Cosby could use a lawyer like Dave.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/4/2017 @ 6:13 pmThanks Dana. I was fairly sure it was just something minor.
Bill H (971e5f) — 2/4/2017 @ 6:29 pm‘Nother hate crime hoax on a college campus.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/stunner-muslim-student-faked-vile-hate-crime-to-get-people-to-pay-attention-to-him/
elissa (214bb7) — 2/4/2017 @ 6:37 pmThere’s been a tendency lately for every pundit and the people they like to give voice to of reminding us that we’re a democracy. The problem is that we aren’t. We are a constitutional republic that uses democratic methods for elections (although California seems to use it for every thing under the sun). If we were a democracy like even San Fran Nan believes us to be, no laws would ever get passed, no one would get elected and the USA would have collapsed, the way parts of ancient Greece did. I’m reminded of this because in the story, someone again refers to the democracy we have. It’s because we are a constitutional republic that we have lasted as long as we have.
David Crowley (e5c503) — 2/5/2017 @ 3:30 am62 – “If we were a democracy like even San Fran Nan believes us to be, no laws would ever get passed, no one would get elected and the USA would have collapsed, the way parts of ancient Greece did.”
Every presidential election would also result in months and months of recounts where missing ballots would keep “turning up” (think one big Minneapolis resulting in President Al Franken).
harkin (afc7a6) — 2/5/2017 @ 6:10 am