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11/8/2016

Election Night Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 5:04 pm



[guest post by Dana]

I thought I’d throw up a fresh election night thread. I was thinking today that no matter who wins this election, at least we can agree on this: Without a doubt, it is the MSM that comes out of this election emitting the most putrid stench of hypocrisy and dishonesty. I would venture to say maybe even more than the candidates themselves, given the utterly low bar of expectation for them, or maybe it was because there at least remained a sliver of hope that maybe the media would make a concerted effort to maintain at least the illusion of some semblance of objectivity and integrity. Ha! During this campaign season, we’ve had it repeatedly confirmed to us that the mainstream media remains a solid organ of the DNC, and a stronghold of corruption, partisanship, and wholly lacking in integrity.

Decision Desk Headquarters here.

Fox News Presidential Election Headquarters here.

–Dana

695 Responses to “Election Night Open Thread”

  1. Here we go.

    Dana (d17a61)

  2. Clinton up 68, Trump 67.

    Dana (d17a61)

  3. I think game 7 of the world series should have been played tonight to give al alternative for our attention.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  4. MD – that would have been excellent. It would have been a contest well worth watching (because my beloved Cubbies won of course. lol) unlike tonight where it is a lose/lose race. I find myself oddly torn about even caring about the results tonight. If it had been game 7 there would have been no hesitation at all.

    Marce (e5bb26)

  5. I think there should be no results made available until the day after, when the various districts all turn their votes in at the same time,
    that way no deciding how many ballots need to be found in a trunk.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  6. Neck in wrinkled neck. I think my Talladega Nights scenario is in play.

    Dustin hardest hit.

    Pinandpuller (dd360c)

  7. How’s SMOD doing?

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  8. Thanks, Marce
    And if results were not released until the next day,
    There would be much less heated CO2 generated election night.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  9. There was a shooting in Azusa, So. Cal. This afternoon by a polling place. Voters were on lockdown. No word yet if it was related to the election.

    Dana (d17a61)

  10. MD, why do you think Broward County is waiting to release their vote totals in Florida? Whatever is needed will appear.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  11. I have a book. The corrupt Pittsburgh suburb (Duquesne) chief of police was just machine-gunned in his car after stranding the hero five miles out of town. That’s the sixth killing so far and it’s not even halfway through the book.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. which author is this, lee child has a new one out, in part set in hamburg in 1996,

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. Ben Shapiro’s book about the end of the US as we know it is not too far fetched.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  14. There ya go, NJ,
    My argument exactly.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  15. Interesting choice of phrase: “throw up”.

    Dr. Weevil (79ec18)

  16. Green Ice, by Raoul Whitfield, 1930. Good writer, comparable to Hammett, and like him a mainstay of Black Mask.

    nk (dbc370)

  17. With vigorous intent, Dr. Weevil.

    Dana (d17a61)

  18. hadn’t heard of him, the adaptation of quarry was very substandard, it’s too bad they haven’t done a nate heller, but who would play him faithfully,

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Saul Rubinek would have been perfect when he was younger.

    nk (dbc370)

  20. interesting, this is the problem with modern noir, take gangster squad, there is precious little light,

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. A young Timothy Hutton too. But nobody more “leading man” or “muscle man” than that.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. MeAgain Kelly can take a hike, with her cutesy horsestuff and insulting Stirewalt.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. hutton is too wasp, for that he was great in leverage, and as nero wolfe’s sidekick on that show a%e criminally mishandled, trump ahead in florida, and initially virginia

    narciso (d1f714)

  24. DJT is proving to be a drag on Ayotte in NH. But, in Indiana, it appears he has saved the governor’s office for the GOP.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  25. Yeah, his performance as Archie Goodwin is the reason I mentioned him.

    nk (dbc370)

  26. Oh, wait… It probably applied to the females, as well…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. ayotte tupolev’d herself, no surprise there,

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. in virginia, what is the margin of felon, that we’re going by,

    narciso (d1f714)

  29. HRC destroying DJT in Loudon County, VA. Just watch as the results there are finally reflected in the totals. If DJT wins VA, it would be truly incredible.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  30. loudon is a strigoi hive, not a surprise, it’s a satrapy of dx,

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. Speaking of noir, I recently noticed at a supermarket checkout stand that Time Life has published a collector’s magazine about film noir.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  32. yes, i saw that, a good treatment,

    narciso (d1f714)

  33. Without a doubt, it is the MSM that comes out of this election emitting the most putrid stench of hypocrisy and dishonesty.

    A hive of scum and villainy.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  34. nate silver is suggesting that Trump might win Florida, but lose Ohio.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  35. apparently the gifford’s vouching for toomey, did not help him,

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. nk, narcisco

    Loved Nero Wolfe. Wish they had dome more.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  37. NM is too close to call.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  38. AZ & CO are also too close to call

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  39. Apparently Arkansas still worn out from the Clintons.

    Dana (d17a61)

  40. all these series have just been schlocked with real house of massapequa, and csi/miami eleventy, where is there is the art or entertainment,

    narciso (d1f714)

  41. Wallace choking… ‘Donald Trump could just end up being the next President of the United States.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  42. Burr looking better and better in NC. Hge retention for GOP in Senate, if true.

    Trump looking like a winner in FL. “Not enough votes left.” for HRC to overcome 140K current margin.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  43. In 2012, 8.4 million votes were cast in Florida. So far 9.1 million votes have been cast and Trump leads by 150,000 votes. But you never know…

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. “Not enough votes left.”

    For Democrats there are always enough votes left.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  45. What did I miss?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  46. well krugman going on a bender,

    https://twitter.com/alimhaider

    and andrea mitchell may have been broken her trapper keeper

    https://twitter.com/GregMitch/status/796167675194044416

    narciso (d1f714)

  47. The Floribama panhandle will come through for us!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  48. narciso, does FL have any way to work with northern states to weed out all the snowbirds who vote in FL as well as in their northern home state?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  49. Holcomb, against ALL known polling, will replace Pence as the Governor in Indiana. Very unexpected GOP retention.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  50. I remarked to my wife when Clinton Spokestwaffle Brian Fallon was interviewed about an hour and a half ago that he had a very disturbed look in his eyes. It was not what I would characterize as a look of confidence.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  51. it’s like searching for seed pods at the end of body snatchers,

    narciso (d1f714)

  52. Don’t assume,CS, they could be n the margin of victory for both down there and 75 and 95 up there.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  53. There was way too much volatility in the polls to ever put much stock in them.

    Remember three weeks ago when everyone in the media said Trump should just quit right then? That was awesome.

    My folks got polled like a hundred times, they’re the last people I know with a landline.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  54. It’s a pretty picture, kishnevi,
    but i don’t get anything else.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  55. Remember 3 weeks ago when Texas was about to turn blue for the first time in I don’t know when?

    That was awesome.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  56. narciso @47:Krugman’s twitter … “a deeper rage among white, rural, American than I knew.” OMG! The dam is bursting.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  57. A scummy spot in an otherwise bright night: Charlie Crist won.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. GOP takes Kentucky house for first time in 100 years.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  59. Krugman will go full-ferret by tomorrow morning.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  60. .Wasserman SchultzIncumbent D 157,883 57.5%
    Kaufman R 109,295 38.9%

    Given how Democratic this part of town is, the Trumpkin got a good showing. (He qualifies as a true Trump supporter in contrast to, say, Rubio.)

    kishnevi (050eae)

  61. Good grief, I’m reading that Trump is up 58-39 among white college educated women in FL. Is this so? And Sen. Claire MacCaskill got her nose pierced. What’s next??

    Dana (d17a61)

  62. “a deeper rage among white, rural, American than I knew.”

    Translation:
    More people are fed up with us elites and getting a clue than I realized!

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  63. Most of DC and NY elites wouldn’t know a rural white American if they came up and said hello.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  64. ‘dogs and cats living together and human sacrifice,’ is the way this goes,

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. If we keep the House and Senate, as seems likely based on what I’ve seen so far, there is some chance we’ll get through our present difficulties. At the very least, 269 Republicans will not have to worry about their retirement.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  66. Charlie Crist won?
    I try to avoid disparaging people’s physical appearance because 99% of it is DNA, but that Crist guy is a little creepy looking with the fake tan, the Peter Lorre eyes, and the snow colored hair.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  67. Sincere kudos to the Hoosier state, Ed from SFV.

    nk (dbc370)

  68. Wow… The state that the clown Joe Trippi is interested in is… New Hampshire?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. The stupidity of Broward County voters. With 48% of precincts reporting, a one percent sales tax increase has 62% yes, 38% no.

    kishnevi (050eae)

  70. I’m waiting for Krugman to sniff and sneer, let them eat cake…or cornbread ! as the case may be.

    Dana (d17a61)

  71. “Claire MacCaskill got her nose pierced. What’s next??”

    A Prince Albert?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  72. One element of NYT says it is more likely than not that DJT wins with 272 EC votes. This means they think he has better chance of winning VA, NC, FL, OH. VA is the obvious lynchpin in their analysis.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  73. Margin of fraud, margin of lawsuit, margin of faithless electors; let’s not forget…

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  74. Stirewalt is dashing my hopes

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  75. Ed… I thought he was toast?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  76. I say he still is. Watch as VA turns blue.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  77. If Trump wins, I will have a sigh of relief…
    for the moment.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  78. one opinion,

    https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/796150734639271936?lang=en

    look the state run media, have put their weight with their gumbo, we know they’re liars, yet we internalize their premise, as with the colombian amnesty and brexit, they may not have a clue,

    narciso (d1f714)

  79. 68. Its a small price to pay.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  80. Ruh roh! Philadelphia not coming through as well as expected. She is more than 100K votes under plan there. Early Wiscy returns are very good for DJT.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  81. Good reminder, narciso. We’re conditioned.

    Dana (d17a61)

  82. I sure hope Texas didn’t go weak-suck.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  83. Feingold is 100K votes under Clinton in Wisconsin – Johnson has a 70K lead with 10% in.

    ACA claims another victim – for the second time. The GOP’s chances of holding the Senate just leaped up.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  84. McMullin has pulled in 40K votes in VA. There’s the difference.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  85. I see Colorado is staying high, apparently all the time.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  86. Mr. Trump is do so good

    i love how he becomes president america 100% yes yes ye

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  87. s

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. You think McMullin pulled more from dems who couldn’t stomach Clinton?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  89. no

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. MD – No. I bet the net loss to DJT was at least 30K among those voters.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  91. EggaMuffin, get it right.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  92. NYT favoring Trump, 58%.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  93. @11 nk
    @12 narciso

    Haha, sounds like a mash up of Jack Reacher, John Rambo and Buford Pusser.

    Pinandpuller (dd360c)

  94. Mr. Trump thank you for doing so good

    i love you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. Look how scared they are. They will not forgive or forget, if she wins they will make sure this never happens again.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  96. Ohio looking good for Trump.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. Clinton under performing in Philly. In some districts she only has 104% of the vote.

    Pinandpuller (dd360c)

  98. The difference may have been VA governor Terry McCauliffe turning the convicted felon vote loose.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  99. The stupidity of Broward County voters. With 48% of precincts reporting, a one percent sales tax increase has 62% yes, 38% no.

    I swear I want to put an initiative up that puts a tax on cigarettes or guns and gives ME the money.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  100. LOL!!

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  101. Stirewalt accuses Trippi of being on MSLSD.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  102. Son of Brexit!

    Let’s hope Germany and France are on the same train.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  103. Lots of frowns appearing at MSNBC. ‘Recount’ chatter has begun.

    Love it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. Maybe, but Whitfield did it in 1930 — 45 years before those Hollywood hacks. Crooked cops in league with gangsters were a staple of Depression era hardboiled fiction mirroring the cynicism in society.

    nk (dbc370)

  105. interesting man of mystery, laura ingraham was analyzing the maude theme, as part of a review of norman lear’s work,

    narciso (d1f714)

  106. It’s getting interesting. No one is talking about Trump not having a good turnout game anymore.

    Just stop Hillary.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  107. If Trump wins, will the Clintons start moving their money overseas?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  108. you have to stop the pig go vote you poopers

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. CNN is a mess. Impossible to watch.

    Maps w/Romney- Obama numbers… somebody please tie John King’s hand behind his back, away from the touch screen maps.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  110. Speaking of Tim Hutton and WASPS, I kind of was forced to listen to DL Hughly today.

    He said that if Clinton wins it’s a statement that being white and mad isn’t good enough anymore.

    He did actually say something I can get behind. Something like if you can’t study like an Asian or work as hard as a Mexican you’re going to fall behind so get your act together. I mean, he was talking to us white people but it does sound like actual capitalism.

    Pinandpuller (dd360c)

  111. sleazy nevertrump squishypoop mark kirk lost like the nasty loser he is

    what does this mean for your family

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  112. What the Hell… Harry Shearer is wearing a blonde woman’s wig and he’s at Clinton campaign HQ and telling us they has a sad.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  113. Wait my wife just corrected me… that’s Andrea Mitchell.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  114. There it is. Fox calls VA for HRC. Now, DJT has to flip one of WI, MI, PA. Or, take NH and NV. All while sweeping FL, NC, OH.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  115. @50 CS

    To say nothing of fake names and witness relocation.

    Pinandpuller (dd360c)

  116. Mike Lee beats the transgender candidate.

    Dana (d17a61)

  117. Don’t trust any “calls” from the media, they’re just as likely to be lies.

    nk (dbc370)

  118. Ok, I believe the one about Mike Lee.

    nk (dbc370)

  119. NK – Thanks for the chuckle. Well played.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  120. Whewwww… Texas called for Trump.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  121. Lol, I was watching HBO Rome to take my mind of the election and at one point gaius ceasar has a seizure and has to be caried away from the homecoming party by two people! Looked like hillary.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  122. so bluntman did throw his own state to red queen,

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. Just voted. What did I miss? Is Trump winning this thing? I see a lot of splodey heads on Twitter.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  124. is it on dvd, the spartacus series on stars was almost hbo level gore,

    narciso (d1f714)

  125. That’s funny, Patricia.

    Dana (d17a61)

  126. Heh. North Carolina ACLU lawyer loses to Burr for the Senate.

    Dana (d17a61)

  127. When I left to vote, Dow futures were WAY down which I took as a sign that Trump was doing well…

    Patterico (115b1f)

  128. Burr wins in NC

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  129. Westworld violence is my limit. No way could do Spartacus.

    Dana (d17a61)

  130. Spartacus season 1 was excellent. The quality dwindled after Andy Whitfield died.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  131. Alright NC!!!

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  132. oh deborah ross, she was three bags of crazy, and that may have been a bankshot from o’keefe,

    https://twitter.com/alimhaider/status/796187610502856704

    narciso (d1f714)

  133. narciso, how do I get a job being a news anchor
    i told the world right here some time ago there would be a Brexit-like effect, I just didn’t know how big it would be
    i would work at 1/2 of the salary

    Poll question:
    Are you voting for Hillary Clinton
    or
    are you a raving maniac vulgar misogynist xenophobic knuckle-dragging buffoon?

    Answer truthfully.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  134. Narciso, it’s not tv it’s HBO lol so lots of nudity I guess to make up for the lack of f bombs. I don’t know when that word came into vogue but not back then.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  135. Trump at 75% to win the election per Stossel…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  136. @129– Apparently Fox is reporting odds makers are shifting percentages to JR as well.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  137. 538 has Clinton at 60%

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  138. i love how he wins (it’s at the pig’s expense poor piggy)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  139. Trump takes Texas.

    So that means the Trumpards can shove it. Because I carried my end of log, MoFos.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  140. John King is quietly freaking out. The memory of their lamentations will steel me for the days ahead.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  141. Patterico (115b1f)

  142. @137– Right.

    Haiku, have you noticed it is easier to ‘watch’ this on Fox– they aren’t playing with maps so much as on CNN and MSNBC. It’s impossible to follow CNN’s John King clicking all over maps. MSNBC is doing it, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  143. For the past month, the front page of the NYT, the paper had Hillary in the high 90% range in odds to win, and Trump in the mid-teens. Consistently so. Wonder what they’d estimate it at now?

    Dana (d17a61)

  144. recall is there anything including fox, has not lied about, omitted, and conversely dialed to eleventy,

    narciso (d1f714)

  145. nobody tried harder than nasty ugly john kasich did to throw their own state to the pig

    nobody

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  146. Wallace up to bat for Clinton. I’m waiting for Juan Williams to start the rapid fire blinking and then I’ll know it’s in teh bag.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  147. @143– Not “Armegeddon,” Patterico????

    Lehrer’s “Hello Mom, I’m off to drop the bomb, so don’t wait up for me….” came to mind when you posted the header on that thread. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  148. Trumptards.

    And it wouldn’t be the first time my end of log was rotten and wet, and it sucked more than it supposed to.

    Thank you, Trumptards.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  149. This is Kennedy/Nixon redux.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  150. Welp, we keep the Supreme Court, have a theoretical shot at containing immigration, and maybe soldiers will refuse to carry out the order to nuke Denmark when Lars Løkke Rasmussen says Trump has small fingers.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  151. So that means the Trumpards can shove it. Because I carried my end of log, MoFos.

    Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/8/2016 @ 7:19 pm

    That’s teh spirit, brother!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  152. I’ve been saying all along that the media polls are rigged in favor of “The Democrat”, a combination of wishful thinking and deliberate disinformation to demoralize “the opposition”.

    nk (dbc370)

  153. @142- He’s impossible to follow.

    We surf between MSNBC to enjoy the frowns and Fox for the leg lights and cleavage.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  154. NYTimes right now has Trump 82% to win.

    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president

    Have to say (being the Times) I have no idea what this means.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  155. Let’s not forget that the Democrats are quite skilled at finding ballot boxes in the trunks of cars, illegally pardoning felons to vote, and all manner of other forms of fraud – they almost always win recounts for a reason. Fraud works when it’s close, and this is close.

    Don’t let fraud stand, no matter who wins. In other words, don’t turn a blind eye to fraud even if it wasn’t decisive.

    Okay, rant over.

    Arizona CJ (b4cd1f)

  156. CNN/Fox says JR will take Ohio; Fox calls Colorado for Maudie.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  157. don’t worry, harkin, rest assured they don’t know either,

    narciso (d1f714)

  158. I can’t watch CNN or MSLSD and I sure as hell can’t watch the alphabets. Hrc takes Co, Trump takes Ohio

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  159. Daughter getting an education,
    needed to explain the 104% vote for HRC
    showed her this earlier today:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs
    she couldn’t believe that ID wasn’t required to vote,
    couldn’t believe Dems argue that voter ID is racist

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  160. Mr. Trump’s winning a lot of my favorite states

    that’s so neat

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  161. 538 now says Trump likely to win

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  162. MeAgain Kelly looks a little torque’d

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  163. Jennifer Griffin doesn’t look as happy as she has for the last several weeks.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  164. Try Cavuto on FBN

    crazy (d3b449)

  165. Is the NYT trying to influence voters in the west with disinformation, somehow??

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  166. Money Honey talking markets now selling off. She looks great, of course.

    Dana (d17a61)

  167. I wouldn’t put it past them, MD.

    nk (dbc370)

  168. Subdued crowd, turned away from the coverage at Clinton HQ. Listening to folk songs about Joe Hill and such…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  169. it’s possible, but they broke the glass case to do it,

    narciso (d1f714)

  170. MD, of course.

    Dana (d17a61)

  171. @152- What’s with this ‘we”??

    I returned.

    You left.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  172. Sobtrue, Patrick, lol. His humor is timeless.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  173. Who’s the “idiot” now, Mr. Patterico? I guess that would be you. How does it feel to have been proven ludicrously wrong in absolutely everything you’ve said and predicted over the past year?

    Boris (2b1c99)

  174. (On a side note, if there was more estrogen on this thread, I would like to discuss Megyn Kelly and Jennifer Griffin’s sartorial selections tonight.)

    Dana (d17a61)

  175. Ack…so true

    Patricia (5fc097)

  176. “Joe Hill.” HAHAHA!

    felipe (023cc9)

  177. comey the corrupt fbi clown is feeling a lil used and stupid right now i bet

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  178. Mr happyfeet, we also need him to win some of the states we don’t want to vacation in!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  179. Scott Walker and the GOP legislature’s determined persistence in getting a valid voter ID law passed in Wisconsin may get Trump elected. It doesn’t appear as if the OFA Chicago crew is going to show up this year.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  180. @152- What’s with this ‘we”??

    I returned.

    You left.

    Conservatives.

    I never left that group. And I never will.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  181. @153, Coronello, keeping the faith bro. Just keeping the faith.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  182. fleabit coyote
    lonesome noble prairie wolf
    hear your howls of pain

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  183. I am sure they would if they could,
    I am just wondering if anyone can postulate the mechanism.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  184. yes yes yes Mr. Supporter

    i’m fading fast though

    chop chop merka

    big day tomorrow

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  185. @123 Patricia

    I believe that both Sulla and Caesar had to keep their consulships in order to insulate themselves from legal consequences.

    In their cases, though, there really was a right wing conspiracy.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  186. “There hasn’t been a shocker. But the over all closeness of the race is shocking.” – Rachel Maddow.

    Hilarious.

    The MSNBC babblers are shorting out on live television.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  187. Denmark would extradict Lars Løkke Rasmussen in a heartbeat. No need for the nuke. You need to look at these things from the other guys eyes … and weight the response with their history.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  188. narciso

    I think Rome is on iTunes and Netflix.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  189. snarling and yipping
    coyote whirling dervish
    doggie “dance of death”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  190. Who’s the “idiot” now, Mr. Patterico? I guess that would be you. How does it feel to have been proven ludicrously wrong in absolutely everything you’ve said and predicted over the past year?

    It feels like goodbye, Boris.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  191. MSNBC talkers seem to be eating large bowls of brown stuff.

    DJ futures dropping.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  192. pantsuited pantload
    your tense robotic movements
    have not served you well

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  193. look it’s very easy to get dispirited with every fracking outlet, with the possible exception of fox business, drudge and michael savage, demoralizing one 24/7, this was a high risk strategy that may not play out in the end, but it does,

    narciso (d1f714)

  194. Joe Hill folk songs? Jeez will the 60s ever end?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  195. wow, Trump takes North Carolina.

    Dana (d17a61)

  196. i know in my heart together we can beat that pig

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  197. I choose to look at the bright side in all this.

    Assuming, as it appears, that Trump will win . . .

    NO HILLARY! (Hooray!)

    Conservatives keep the Court! (Hooray!)

    GOP keeps the Senate! And maybe does away with the filibuster if Dems get snooty about Trump’s first Court nomination. (HOORAY!)

    And, drumroll . . .

    If he’s not lying . . .

    MAYBE WE GET RID OF OBAMACARE?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  198. Trump steps out on Fifth Avenue to shoot a random passerby.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  199. NYT front page gives Trump 91% chance to win now.

    Dana (d17a61)

  200. @182. Understood. But it’s shifting to a pragmatism from ideology and conservatives may be left behind on policy planning if JR pulls it off. But if he does, you’ll likely get that SCOTUS bone to chew on– which is what you want anyway.

    ‘Course, it’s still early….

    “It ain’t over ’til it’s over.”– Yogi Berra

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  201. yay yay yay i love how beat that pig is getting

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  202. If this really is the Bradley Effect in play, then I’m hoping that my state assemblyman somehow overcomes the odds and beats his challenger who is backed by the California Democrat Machine.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  203. @201- What would President Dewey say?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  204. JVW,

    Imagine throughout Cali!

    Dana (d17a61)

  205. @182. Understood. But it’s shifting to a pragmatism from ideology and conservatives may be left behind on policy planning if JR pulls it off. But if he does, you’ll likely get that SCOTUS bone to chew on– which is what you want anyway.

    If that were the ONLY thing I cared about, I would have actually VOTED Trump. I care about a lot more than that.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  206. oh sad Hillary
    we shall miss your honeyed voice
    totter off mein frau

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  207. Mr. Dilbert’s probably feeling pretty good about life just about now

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  208. this is truly uncharted territory, maybe bluntman threw pennsylvania to red queen,

    narciso (d1f714)

  209. For Eff sake… Trump has won!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  210. A Democrat strategist on Fox just acknowledged that the so-called smart people don’t know what the hell they are talking about. That has been the most pleasant part of the night tonight.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  211. Johnson beats feingold

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  212. I’m still here. Shocked. Green Bay returns….Romney was +2. DJT was +26

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  213. I see Rove on Fox. (I have the sound off.) Is he going to sing?

    nk (dbc370)

  214. tingles looks constipated, now you say how can you tell?

    narciso (d1f714)

  215. narciso @195,

    … to get dispirited with every fracking outlet …

    The turning point for the independents in Trumpteer country was probably kneeling during the Star Spangled Banner. My neighbors in that rural/white demographic haven’t been tuned into the “outlets” for about a decade, and they needed proof that the world was spinning out of control. They don’t take the campus charades seriously. The big push for soccer will be the next thing to trigger a response.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  216. oh sad Hillary
    we shall miss your honeyed voice
    totter off mein frau

    Hahahahaha.

    I always said there would be a part of me that is terrified tonight, and a part of me that is ecstatic . . . no matter what happens.

    And it’s true!

    But I choose to go with the positive. And there is plenty of positive to go around. And the idea of watching Hillary make a concession speech is a positive. As for the rest of it, I’ll try to block it out.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  217. Dem on Fox said he’s nervous, but not in freak out mode. Yet.

    Dana (d17a61)

  218. @207- Well, don’t sell him short like the market is– will be interesting to see who he surrounds himself with… ‘Course, he hasn’t won yet and even a POS can be fine fertilizer when properly cultivated.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  219. Sadly funny watching Dem strategists try to put on a brave face. They “are nervous but not panicking”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  220. NYT has Trump at 94%
    Toomey’s opponent’s election watch is very subdued

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  221. One truly horrific thing which is true, regardless the end outcomes now…The GOP establishment/Elite will insist there is no need for structural, fundamental, recasting.

    Hopes for Article V momentum are taking a major hit tonight.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  222. @216- He thinks he knows Pennsylvania. But he only knows Philly.

    Cream cheese and cheese steak.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  223. “Ideological and an electoral revolution of a kind we haven’t seen since Reagan”

    — Charles Krauthammer

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  224. Philly radio reports trump ahead in PA, but announcer asks essentially, “But Clinton is going to win, right???”

    They are amazed that the Repubs are going to keep the Senate

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  225. One truly horrific thing which is true, regardless the end outcomes now…The GOP establishment/Elite will insist there is no need for structural, fundamental, recasting.

    Hopes for Article V momentum are taking a major hit tonight.

    There is a core of us who will never change. We will continue to push for the right things. Hey, Trump is a con man and can probably be bought. Again, look on the bright side!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  226. I worry that article v, is a potential admiral ackbar moment,

    narciso (d1f714)

  227. If anyone wants to pick up a polling company cheap, there should be some good buying opportunities within the next few days. It would be like buying a buggy whip maker in 1910 though.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  228. 1980: malaise

    2016: melees

    How much did all the Mexican flag waving yobos chinga el perro?

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  229. So is there anything good on TV tonight? My TV seems to be broken, it’s only showing talking heads babbling incoherently.

    Marce (1cb271)

  230. Foxprojects Florida for Trump.

    Dana (d17a61)

  231. Patterico (115b1f)

  232. But I choose to go with the positive. And there is plenty of positive to go around. And the idea of watching Hillary make a concession speech is a positive. As for the rest of it, I’ll try to block it out.

    Retiring the Clintons from public life will be a major compliment for the man, should it come to pass.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  233. NYT>95%…
    Listening to philly news radio
    you’d think it was Tokyo radio talking about the islands falling one by one in WWII

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  234. @232– none of the others have gone there yet but that would break the logjam

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  235. I worry that article v, is a potential admiral ackbar moment,

    Let’s have a discussion about that in coming weeks. I think you’re wrong . . . but given the way the Constitution itself came to be, one cannot be arrogant or dismissive about the notion of a limited mission getting out of control.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  236. At 10:25 pm Eastern time, not one of the battleground states had been called. Virginia was maybe just then called for Hillary. This as not one of those states, but was blue. The returns in Virginia always come in from he soutghern part of the state first and Dem totals from the washington sburbs come in later. Trump was having trouble in North Carolina (as I suspected) more from the new northern population theer than anything else but it looks like he didn’t trade Virginia for North Carolina, for a loss of 2 Electoral votes.

    Florida was very close, I mean 10 votes or so, and then had a Trump lead.

    In general, Hillary was underperforming slightly by about maybe whhat 2% or 3% from what you might expect a Democatic nominee to get (whatever that is – is it Kerry 2004, Gore, 2000, or Obama 2012?) in heavily Democratic areas, and Trump was getting higher turnout in smaller population areas.

    But Bill and Hillary Clinton were reported to be working on only one speech.

    Then Ohio was called for Trump. Sen Rob Portman had right away been called when the polls closed.

    Evan Bayh also lost in Indiana, and Mark Kirk in Illinois.

    But Wisconsin was extremely close – no Hillary lead. A trade of Wisconsin for North Carolina gets Hillary 3 – which is 271 with 3 Maine electors and 275 with New Hampshire which seems to be going for Hillary Clinton, and 281 with Nevada except it maybe doesn’t seem to be going that way, in spite of the heavy early vote. The Hispanic portion of the electorate is only 1% higher at leasst in the exit polls, which cud eadly not srvvey the right places.

    Subtract Michigan, though and you get down to 265.

    At about 10:45 pm the New York Times and the Wall Street were starting to project the victory for Trump, and the Dow Jones Industrial average futures was down 750 points. New York state Rep Chairman Cox was bouyant.

    If the electorate was composed of the same groups of people who voted in 1980 it would be a Reagan victory like that in 1980

    In the popular vote, I don’t think they are tabulating write-ins or even all ballot lines in every state.

    Sammy Finkelman (6d2ca9)

  237. I meant “accomplishment” not “compliment.”

    JVW (6e49ce)

  238. 223- LOL OTOH, he could be looking up.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  239. Retiring the Clintons from public life will be a major compliment for the man, should it come to pass.

    Yup. And the Bushes. I was not looking forward to Jeb, lo these many months ago.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  240. Mr. Comey had his chance, and he blew it.

    All he really had to do was name a few senior DoJ officials who refused to convene a grand jury, and he’d be covered. But no, he had to pretend he was a prosecutor.

    But I may be counting my chickens too soon. The “lost” ballots in the bushel basket in the trunk of some anonymous Democrat have yet to be found. Stay tuned.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  241. I don’t think Ron done it this way

    No I don’t think Ron done it this way

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  242. I reflexively look for the outliers, the cbs polls on early voting, for instance, and they indicated something, exactly what one couldn’t be certain, and I chalk up the herd of independent minds, to be wrong 50 % of the time, nate silver got caught in the groupthink, and yet noticed something toward the end,

    narciso (d1f714)

  243. Having no control over anything, I choose to be happy about the Court, and the chance to control immigration.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  244. He got Florida? Bye, Hillary, a tragic figure who deserves her fate.

    Maybe after he appoints a few justices and repeals Obamacare, he will grow restless and resign, and that nice Mr. Pence can finish up.

    Hey, do you think the GOP learned anything tonight? Did Romney?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  245. @233 Patterico

    You think they will find the Clinton campaign with a pillow over its head in the morning?

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  246. Antonin Scalia death was investigated by the FBI, right? Recent events suggest that this probably ought to be revisited once the stables have been mucked.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  247. My God.

    Donald Trump is 54 electoral votes from becoming Prsident.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  248. Woah. It looks like Brexit won again.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  249. Having no control over anything, I choose to be happy about the Court, and the chance to control immigration.

    And as a special added bonus, both parties will likely start to curb executive overreach.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  250. @245- We finally agree!!

    ‘Course the court means nothing to me. But the immigration issues and trade are important.

    Trump wins Utah.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  251. You think they will find the Clinton campaign with a pillow over its head in the morning?

    Look for Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin to be found in a murder-suicide.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  252. Patterico (115b1f)

  253. I do enjoy watching Chris Matthews develop indigestion on live television.

    Payback for nights he gave it to me.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  254. I bet right now Donald Trump is getting “President” tattooed on his right forearm and “Trump” on his left.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  255. Just checked Comedy Central – The Daily Show.

    Pure, unadulterated hate and condescension.

    Also looks of complete shock.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  256. The Park Service needs to station a guard at Fort Marcy Park.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  257. “more republican votes in the Philly area than in 2008 and 2012” they said on local news radio

    it’s like, “I can’t believe Nixon won, I didn’t know anyone who voted for him”

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  258. Agreed, 245.

    Yes, stunning Dcsca. it’s going to happen in an hour maybe?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  259. Well, my predictions had the race closer than anyone I personally know, but after the Romney debacle I put my faith in polls. Brexit was actually predicted by the polls. This, for the most part, wasn’t.

    My biggest goal at this point is to put pressure on the man to carry through on the promises he made that were, in fact, conservative promises.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  260. Over/under on when Hillary concedes?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  261. A week from next 2025.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  262. Brexit was predicted by the polls?
    I thought not.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  263. I think there should be no results made available until the day after, when the various districts all turn their votes in at the same time,
    that way no deciding how many ballots need to be found in a trunk.

    That can’t work because each candidate must be entitled to have observers at each count, to verify that it’s honest, and those observers’ jobs are to report the local count to campaign HQ. So even if it’s kept from the public it can’t be kept from the parties, and thus from the party machines in machine-run precincts, who are precisely the people you want to hide it from.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  264. Oh, and to the now-banned Boris:

    I never, ever, EVER

    EVER

    claimed to be good at politics or predicting how elections go.

    EVER.

    I do it anyway. We all do. But it’s not my skill set.

    My errors just happen to be more public than some others’.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  265. @Patterico:ver/under on when Hillary concedes?

    Februrary. I don’t know if I trust this to be over the margins of fraud, litigation, and faithless electors.

    Would not surprise me if she set up some fake Republican vote fraud to get “caught”.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  266. justice can be sweet
    Basket of Deplorables
    hand her head to her

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  267. Brexit was predicted by the polls?
    I thought not.

    It was. Look closer.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  268. Just checked Comedy Central – The Daily Show.

    Pure, unadulterated hate and condescension.

    Whenever a Democrat wins, Republicans are subjected to all of this unwanted advice from smug liberals on all the things the GOP needs to do in order to connect with the voters. If the current trends hold and the GOP wins, it will be conservatives turn to make “helpful” suggestions to Democrats on how to reshape their party. One thing I would tell them is to stop treating TV comics as if they were deep thinkers and worthy polemicists.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  269. Would not surprise me if she set up some fake Republican vote fraud to get “caught”.

    But that would make her a cheater! And I can’t believe that! Oh wait . . . didn’t she get fed the debate questions? Never mind then. Carry on!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  270. CNN not calling Florida and a few others. They have Clinton at 197, Trump 187.

    Dana (d17a61)

  271. @JVW:If the current trends hold and the GOP wins,

    we’ll be told Trump has no mandate and he is obligated to govern from the center.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  272. The libs and dems are like the people who were convinced that The Lord was coming back and sold all their reputations so they could sit on the mountaintop and wait.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  273. Brexit was predicted by the polls?
    I thought not.

    British polling is not as extensive and prevalent as it is over here. As I recall, Brexit polls showed it close with some leaning towards leave and some leaning towards remain. But it was a toss-up.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  274. I saw the colombian amnesty as a augur as well, after all who can possibly e against peace, but uribe focused on the terms of the accord,

    narciso (d1f714)

  275. Patterico,

    So was Trump if you look carefully.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  276. Maybe I read the wrong polls too. I also thought there were more calling it for Remain.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  277. @JVW:British polling is not as extensive and prevalent as it is over here.

    Healthier society than we have. But Parliamentary elections happen whenever and so are usually much more frequent.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  278. @262- not until every avenue of challenge is exhausted.

    But oh, what a show.

    The only topper woud be the moment Obama has to turn over the keys of the WH to Trump.

    Because as you know, we do so loved to be entertained.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  279. I’m assuming that McMullin drew votes that might have gone to the GOP. I wonder if Johnson is taking votes from the Democrat candidate, the Republican candidate, or pretty much both of them more or less equally.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  280. I wonder what all the nasty emailers like Tandon and Band and Podesta will do if Hillary loses.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  281. @Patricia:Tandon and Band and Podesta will do if Hillary loses.

    Become high-salaried lobbyists.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  282. All this caution. It’s over. He won.

    Let’s focus on the positive. This is not an awful country. Most people did not vote FOR him. They voted AGAINST her and AGAINST Obama. That is a very good thing.

    A VERY good thing.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  283. Kelly Ayotte appears to be holding on in New Hampshire. I would love to see both her and Ron Johnson retain their seats.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  284. Hm, maybe CNN is reliving 2000 screwup, and more recently, debate question shame… Cautiously cautious.

    Dana (d17a61)

  285. All this caution. It’s over. He won.

    Woah, what makes you say that? Your positive he will hold on in Michigan, or do you think he might even have a shot in Wisconsin or Minnesota too? It looks like Pennsylvania is probably out of reach.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  286. Well, maybe it was that the polls were mixed about brexit,
    but the actual vote was surprisingly conclusive for leave

    because I remember the perception was that the result was surprising/shocking
    I could be wrong, but perhaps that is how it was

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  287. I’m happier than I thought I would be.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  288. FOX projects FL, NC and Ohio for Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  289. Your positive he will hold on in Michigan, or do you think he might even have a shot in Wisconsin or Minnesota too?

    Yes, yes, and yes.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  290. Where does Mitt Romney go to get his election back heh?

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  291. Didn’t Johnson hold already?

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  292. Good thing Hillary cancelled that fireworks show over the Hudson.

    Dana (d17a61)

  293. “Nothing has ever come easy for Clinton in her life”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  294. @289- Because it’s finally over, too?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  295. Looks like the awful Kamala Harris has smoked Loretta Sanchez in their Senate race. Barbara Boxer will be replaced by someone equally awful. She may be the Democrats nominee for President in 2020 — it’s not beyond the realm of possibility.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  296. The triumph of the Pepe/Breitbart crowd is the most worrisome aspect.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  297. Pat – You simply have gotsta take a selfie with your banner and hand-written title: “Trump Won!”

    You could be a modern-day Chicago Tribune!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  298. @295- Apparently Bill does.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  299. I hate hate hate hate those people. And they think they are in charge now.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  300. the Amish had their get out the vote effort, they just reported
    and they do not support the party of Moloch

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  301. All this caution. It’s over. He won.

    Let’s focus on the positive. This is not an awful country. Most people did not vote FOR him. They voted AGAINST her and AGAINST Obama. That is a very good thing.

    A VERY good thing.

    Patterico

    //

    That helps, thanks. I just hope the left doesn’t go berserk. I cannot four years of hate like the Bush years.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  302. And the Washington State Elector might not be lonely, either….

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  303. Pat – You simply have gotsta take a selfie with your banner and hand-written title: “Trump Won!”

    You could be a modern-day Chicago Tribune!

    Ha!

    You notice I have not actually done a “Trump won!” post.

    Also note that I predicted this would be very, very close. Much more so than the polls.

    But again. I suck at predicting this stuff.

    So don’t mind me.

    But I like looking at the bright side of what looks like a Trump win to me.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  304. And you would have been more dejected than expected had Clinton won

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  305. @298- If he wins, Trump will sweep them aside. He’s all NY business.

    Fox projects Trump Wins Wisconsin.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  306. Trump takes Wisconsin. Wow.

    Dana (d17a61)

  307. Do you think that Hillary might still win the popular vote by virtue of huge margins of victory in California and New York?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  308. Wisconsin!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  309. Fox calls Wisconsin for Trump.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  310. Looks like he won Wisconsin.

    nk (dbc370)

  311. I predicted a Brexit like effect,
    and I also predicted I did not know how big it would be

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  312. Ed from SFV,

    How is that Dewey wins thing looking now?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  313. I had Trump winning, GOP holding House but losing Senate. I blew it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  314. Iowa to Trump.

    Dana (d17a61)

  315. Sheriff Clarke for Investigate the Obama admin for criminality czar!!!!!

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  316. Iowa goes to Trump

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  317. If he wins Wisconsin then that has to bode well for Ron Johnson!

    JVW (6e49ce)

  318. And you would have been more dejected than expected had Clinton won

    I don’t know.

    Maybe.

    I don’t know.

    I hate Trump. I really hate him.

    He scares me. His supporters scare me. He’s Nixon x 100. He’s an awful, terrible human being. Don’t harsh my mellow. You thought I was kidding about hating Hillary. I wasn’t. But you thought I was kidding about hating Trump. (OK, you didn’t.) I wasn’t.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  319. Patterico’s ‘prediction: Clinton wins.
    Electoral college breakdown: Hillary 275, Trump 263.
    Popular vote splits 51% to 49% for Hillary. [UPDATE: I mean, counting only the people voting Trump or Hillary. Nobody else matters; let’s be honest.][Factoring in the third-party folks, I’d say 49% Clinton, 47% Trump, 3% Johnson, 1% Stein, everyone else negligible.]

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  320. Dewey won…..in 2016

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  321. Stop making me think about how awful he is.

    Let me try to be positive.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  322. Oh hell, Chris Christie is now going to be Attorney General. Buckle your seatbelts folks, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  323. I just think Clinton in power poses a greater threat to total abandonment of the rule of law.
    you can’t win if there re no rules to play by.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  324. The outright dishonesty shown by the media… Trump would draw turn-away crowds and Clinton had trouble half-filling smaller venues and you’d never know it. Awww… people at HRC HQ in tears and leaving. They. Has A. Sad.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  325. Patterico’s ‘prediction: Clinton wins.
    Electoral college breakdown: Hillary 275, Trump 263.
    Popular vote splits 51% to 49% for Hillary. [UPDATE: I mean, counting only the people voting Trump or Hillary. Nobody else matters; let’s be honest.][Factoring in the third-party folks, I’d say 49% Clinton, 47% Trump, 3% Johnson, 1% Stein, everyone else negligible.]

    Yup. I suck at this. Didn’t I say that? How does the real breakdown look now?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  326. Brian Williams just audibly groaned when he announced Trumps new numbers. didn’t know they were still live :).

    Patricia (5fc097)

  327. JVW, he wasn’t on the list. It was Rudy, I think. Christie wasn’t anywhere to be found.

    Dana (d17a61)

  328. Patterico (115b1f)

  329. In related news, Amy Schumer’s Realtor has listed all her properties for immediate move-in availability.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  330. could I revise that conan line,

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/sarah-stites/2016/11/08/hollywood-freaks-out-about-throw

    staypuft does toe the wet sprocket,

    narciso (d1f714)

  331. Brian Williams just audibly groaned when he announced Trumps new numbers. didn’t know they were still live :).

    Hahahahahaha hey isn’t he the liar what is he doing on our TVs just kidding

    Patterico (115b1f)

  332. @327- you’re an honest Joe, Patterico.

    It’s okay to be wrong about this. If it holds out, it is historic. You’ll get maybe two or three of these in your life.

    I just want to see my last 1975 pantsuit tonight.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  333. #142,

    More like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7PRY1Aqds

    “…and one of the fingers on the trigger will be Korean.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  334. Love the MSNBC frowns.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  335. Ellie Stafanik easily won reelection to her House seat. I like her, and I think she might be destined for bigger things.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  336. narciso, does FL have any way to work with northern states to weed out all the snowbirds who vote in FL as well as in their northern home state?

    Only if those states cooperate. Since they’re mostly D-controlled, why would they? They’d only be interested if they thought the snowbirds were voting R, in which case FL would lose interest.

    Milhouse (40ca7b)

  337. Obama’s tears will taste delicious.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  338. Da*mn it. Sheriff Arpaio voted out of office.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  339. Anyone know why GA is not yet called for Trump? Right now his margin is over 300,000.

    Kishnevi (050eae)

  340. I don’t think I’m far off on this one:

    The election will turn on how many #NeverTrumps find themselves voting for Trump in the solitude of the voting booth. We all say that we won’t do it, that all the “oh, no, not Hillary” arguments are wasted on us, but at that final point, do you really vote for Johnson or write in McMullin?

    If you believe the polls, Hillary leads by 3, Johnson has 5%, Stein 2% and 8% are undecided or other. How many Johnson voters end up as Trump voters? How many undecided (and most of them are NOT deciding between Hillary or Trump) end up voting for Trump instead of Mickey Mouse?

    My answer: enough.

    Trump will lose the popular vote by about a percent.
    Trump will win the electoral vote with 270 or 276, depending on Nevada. He will win FL, NC, NH, GA, OH, IA, AZ and ME2 out of RCP’s tossups.

    I missed WI and I may miss NH. Or not.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  341. Americans were unimpressed by Jay-zee and Bey and The Boss and all the celebs Hillary trotted out. It was yet another affront to the everyday joes, and further reinforcement of the elites v. the little people. Hollywood can’t accept its irrelevancy .

    Dana (d17a61)

  342. Anybody checking their Facebook feed? My leftie friends are freaking out big time. Damn near close to having nervous breakdowns.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  343. All the leftwing magazines need to toss out their Madame President covers.

    NJRob (7a7e3e)

  344. So – who gets to sit in Scalia’s chair? Will Ginsberg actually have herself mummified in order to keep going?

    Will Trump keep his promise to put Clinton in prison – where she has belonged for a very long time?

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  345. Fox called GA just now

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  346. CNN calls WA for Hillary at 38% returns, but won’t call WI for Trump at 83%! Haha.

    Dana (d17a61)

  347. I don’t trust Michigan – they are capable of extreme hijinks in Detroit.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  348. Patterico (115b1f)

  349. Will Trump keep his promise to put Clinton in prison – where she has belonged for a very long time?

    Trump will appoint a special prosecutor or two. It will be a hands-off thing, but Clinton, her foundation and the IRS are in deep doodoo.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  350. @Dana:CNN calls WA for Hillary at 38% returns, but won’t call WI for Trump at 83%! Haha.

    If you lived here you’d know why. WA hasn’t voted R since 1984 I think.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  351. Georgia has been done for hours now. Come on.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  352. And as I posted that comment, they have called GA for Trump.

    Kishnevi (050eae)

  353. “He may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch”

    Knock on wood.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  354. For God’s Sake, CNN’s John King is playing with numbers like a Vegas card counter. Impossible to follow what’s actually happening. He’s missing history before his eyes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  355. in the end, it wasn’t about trump, they wanted it to be, for there are seismic currents on trade, immigration, national security, et al, that involve the whole world,

    narciso (d1f714)

  356. Gabriel Hanna,

    I understand that but my point is, they are absolutely dragging their feet and reluctantly calling anything for Trump. Anything but that!

    What part are you in? I see Patty Murray wins again.

    Dana (d17a61)

  357. Trump will appoint a special prosecutor or two. It will be a hands-off thing, but Clinton, her foundation and the IRS are in deep doodoo.

    I feel bad for Bill and Hillary. They will just have to make do with the $200 million they have already amassed.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  358. 340:
    hes no longer necessary, and I don’t care how inmate uniforms look.

    My 49 T 46 C looks about right.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  359. I certainly could be wrong,
    I don’t think it was #nevertrumps that changed their minds
    I think it was #neverhillarysneveragainObamas that kept quiet until the booth

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  360. Pat…but they didn’t call GA until just now.

    Kishnevi (050eae)

  361. Matthews can’t bring himself t sy the phrase ‘Pesident Donald Trump.’

    Insists ‘she can still win….”Pennsylvania will save her!”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  362. Hillary: You are a very bad man!

    Trump: No President for you!

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  363. 16 electoral votes away.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  364. Did Chris Wallace just say the GOP hasn’t held both the Presidency and Congress simultaneously since Eisenhower? Is he really that senile?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  365. No, I think he goes soft rather than hard on Hillary. That is what the pre.announcement 2015 Bill meeting was about.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  366. John King looking to Detroit to bring the votes.

    Dana (d17a61)

  367. I think we can spot Trump Alaska, for 3 more. Another vote for NE1 (Nebraska is 5 not 4). So that’s 258. Arizona is 269, a tie, which breaks for Trump. One more vote out of ME and that’s it.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  368. MD, Johnson seems to be underperforming compared to the polling, which chimes better with your first theory.

    Kishnevi (050eae)

  369. Snakeman is making excuses.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  370. Pat…but they didn’t call GA until just now.

    it’s been obvious to me for about 90 minutes.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  371. I think there was a strong #neverhillary faction that was silent. Democrats eat their own and they valued their lives.

    Hillary will never see prison. She will skate, or be pardoned beforehand by Obama. It’s hard to catch a greased pig.

    Marce (1cb271)

  372. You know what? I’m happy. I would not have been any happier if Hillary were winning.

    nk (dbc370)

  373. Out of Lagavulin. What now?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  374. @Dana:What part are you in

    I’m in the purple part, not the red part and not the deep blue part.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  375. I said today that if he wins it would be a blowout, and it’s looking like that.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  376. Called races only, the GOP has 49 Senate seats.

    Ayotte and Blount have small lead at this moment. Murkowski fully expected to win in AZ. The NYT says Toomey has GREAT chance in PA.

    The GOP will run both Houses. Wow. I never saw it happening.

    In the same week….DJT, GOP Congress, and the Cubs.

    How Confucian.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  377. James Carville absolutely melting down on MSDNC. Doom and gloom about the future making Al Gore look like Shirley Temple.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  378. A leftie friend of mine just posted the following on Facebook: “I don’t understand how this can be happening. . .”

    It is all I can do to keep myself from replying, “And that right there is the problem.”

    JVW (6e49ce)

  379. 350… I read that and think you must be joking… At least, I hope you are.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  380. Looks like Paul Ryan is going to be spending more time with his family.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  381. Out of Lagavulin. What now?

    Nights like this call for gin.

    “At lunch you should drink gin. When you return to work you want people to think you are drunk, not stupid.” – P.J. O’Rourke

    JVW (6e49ce)

  382. 373. Lots of the goofy votes (Bill the Cat, Bat Boy, Theo Epstein) were irreverent Dem voters.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  383. NBC is predicting a 269/269 tie with recounts in Nebraska and Maine to put Clinton over the top…. I am predicting a long night of denial no matter what happens.

    Marce (1cb271)

  384. San Diego rejects new football stadium funding. Hello, again, L.A. Chargers!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  385. Patterico, I’m down to the Ronrico Rum.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  386. Andrea Mitchell seems close to tears on MSNBC.

    Dana (d17a61)

  387. McCain won. Rubio won. A ‘President Trump’ will need ambassadors to Antarctica and the Sahara.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  388. “His supporters scare me.” Please don’t be afraid of me.

    gp (0c542c)

  389. Obama’s tears will taste delicious.

    Patterico (115b1f) — 11/8/2016 @ 8:39 pm

    Years ago, Madge would tell us all “you’re soaking in them.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  390. What?! As of this moment, Dems have picked up a net of only ONE SEAT in the House?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  391. Lady Gaga turned out for Hillary in full SS gestapo regalia, pretty much confirming to her fan base that her presence was coerced.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  392. 382. I don’t know with regard to remaining Speaker, maybe he’s just a good poker face. Ivanka will inform us, since she met with him about strategy last month. You had me checking if he actually lost, you scamp!

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  393. Local Fox channel now interviewing Gloria Allred at a Clinton election night party. It’s every bit a wonderful as you would imagine. She is such a jerk.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  394. Patterico, I’m down to the Ronrico Rum.

    The Macallan Gold comes next for me.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  395. Years ago, Madge would tell us all “you’re soaking in them.”

    You’re really into that 70s stuff.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  396. My wife is channel-surfing and enjoying the distraught looks on all the pundit’s faces. She tells me it’s “fascinating”. I told her she’s cruel and she replied, that yes, she is “but I have no remorse… It’s a terrible thing”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  397. @Patterico:The Macallan Gold comes next for me.

    You know, for day-in day-out drinking, I find Grouse does just fine.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  398. FYI: All Philly votes are counted. HRC in big doo doo in PA. Toomey looking good. 20% of votes outstanding in total.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  399. @Patterico: I wouldn’t waste something really good on this. I’ll save it for ringside at the next dumpster-fire/hobo-fight. We have them every Tuesday.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  400. I liked the Lagavulin better. But this will do.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  401. Whose up for a trip to Vegas? I got a hot hand.

    Sure you don’t want to climb about this train?

    Rolling boxcars.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  402. Clinton has won by big margins in New York and Illinois, and she is on her way to a huge victory in California. I’ll ask it again: Does anyone here think she might win the popular vote and lose in the electoral college?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  403. Obama will be soooo disappointed in all us Americans,

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  404. My wife is channel-surfing and enjoying the distraught looks on all the pundit’s faces. She tells me it’s “fascinating”. I told her she’s cruel and she replied, that yes, she is “but I have no remorse… It’s a terrible thing”

    She’s like Shaw from Person of Interest! Is she as hot?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  405. MSNBC now blaming the Russians. Of course!

    Dana (d17a61)

  406. MSNBC cranks blaming Russia.

    @339- Cannot wait to see that moment when Obama has to turn the WH keys over to Trump.

    It must be televised, of course. ‘Entertaining’ as it were.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  407. Clinton has won by big margins in New York and Illinois, and she is on her way to a huge victory in California. I’ll ask it again: Does anyone here think she might win the popular vote and lose in the electoral college?

    Not me. He’ll win both.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  408. @339- Cannot wait to see that moment when Obama has to turn the WH keys over to Trump.

    Better yet, when they ride to the inauguration together in the Presidential limo.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  409. Yes, I am into the 70s… Even the 60s, 80s and 90s.

    Hell… Even Mikey would like this!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  410. Whose up for a trip to Vegas? I got a hot hand.

    Sure you don’t want to climb about this train?

    Rolling boxcars.

    I’m on the classical liberal train.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  411. Johnathon Chait sez, Trump will be better than Rubio or Cruz. Just like we said, Trump is Hitler until the next election, and the Left hates real conservatives and finds them far more dangerous than Trump.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  412. @ #405:

    Hmm. Now Obama and I actually have something in common.

    Or maybe not, since I am disappointed in America no matter which way this thing falls.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  413. My Russian son-in-law takes offense at that. He didn’t do anything. Didn’t even go vote illegally! Actually he has been verbally attacked more than once through this whole thing simply for being from Russia by those tolerant “immigrant friendly” Democrats. It kind of negates their message.

    Marce (1cb271)

  414. Apparently he has pulled into the lead in Pennsylvania.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  415. She’s like Shaw from Person of Interest! Is she as hot?

    Patterico (115b1f) — 11/8/2016 @ 9:02 pm

    In my eyes, she is. She was hotter than Victoria Principal back in the day, she was a ringer for her.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  416. Mr President Elect Trump, when you place your order at Blinds.com be sure to put Levin for the coupon code. He did vote for you.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  417. Man… Trump’s got the slimmest of leads in PA.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  418. Obama’s tears will taste delicious.

    Heh. That will wipe his smirk off his face.

    I hope Trump makes peace with Paul Ryan and uses him well.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  419. Man… Arguments on FOX

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  420. In my eyes, she is. She was hotter than Victoria Principal back in the day, she was a ringer for her.

    Wowie! You’re gonna get Dallas fan DSCSDASSCA inordinately interested.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  421. 421. Not that he needed WI, but is the Paul Ryan-Reince Priebus axis redeemed?

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  422. I hope Trump makes peace with Paul Ryan and uses him well.

    We can all hope for this and that about Trump, but he is 70 years old and he is what he is: one of the most awful, wretched, terrible human beings I have had the great misfortune to learn about.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  423. MSNBC is slipping into ‘how did we lose’ mode.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  424. Fuck Donald Trump.

    Fuck Hillary Clinton.

    I hate them both.

    I hate him worse as a person.

    I hate her policies more.

    He will be President.

    I try to be positive. But I cannot blind myself to the steaming pile of shit I firmly believe him to be.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  425. Hahah leftists. CRY. CRY YOUR WHITE HOT TEARS

    You nominated a criminal. Reap what you sowed.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  426. The Dem won Reid’s seat in NV. I’ll be stupefied if DJT wins NV.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  427. Obama is a rookie when it comes to narcissism compared to Trump.

    Marce (1cb271)

  428. @Patterico:But I cannot blind myself to the steaming pile of shit I firmly believe him to be.

    You certainly don’t need to do that. We’ve had sh*tty presidents before and will again.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  429. @425. He’s gone.

    He’s makin that list;
    Checkin’ it twice;
    Keepin’ track
    Of who was naughty
    And nice…

    President Trump is comin’ to town.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  430. Patterico, someday I hope to share a bottle in your presence. Yes, Lagavulin 16 is good (and Ron Swanson approved). I like Glenmorangie better, but I’m not much into the peat.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  431. @Patterico: Besides, you know, he’s old. Then you get President Pence.

    If it goes the other way you have President Kaine, hardly better than Clinton.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  432. Pennsylvania puts DJT IN THE White House. Just as Pat predicted with a rick roll.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  433. Not that he needed WI, but is the Paul Ryan-Reince Priebus axis redeemed?

    I have long held that Reince Priebus is grossly underrated and under-appreciated. When you consider that the Democrats have had Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazille, having a steady hand like Priebus has been a godsend.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  434. No,no,no lol. Ryan won his race but I’m thinking he’s going to get tossed as speaker.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  435. @425- and he’s New Yorker!!!!!!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  436. If it goes the other way you have President Kaine, hardly better than Clinton.

    I hope that Kaine is not finished nationally too.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  437. Looks like Paul Ryan is going to be spending more time with his family.

    Why? The Congress is a co-equal branch of government. He may decide he doesn’t what it, but there’s no real consensus for anyone else.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  438. Wew lads.

    Anyone tired of winning?

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  439. Dumbass poll worker actually looked at my ballot agog because he was stunned by the write in.

    He looked at my ballot! I’m not kidding! Idiot

    Patterico (115b1f)

  440. ironic isn’t it

    papertiger (c8116c)

  441. @Patterico: Besides, you know, he’s old. Then you get President Pence.

    Have more fries, President Trump!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  442. I’ll ask it again: Does anyone here think she might win the popular vote and lose in the electoral college?

    I’ll answer it again. Yes. I predicted it here: https://patterico.com/2016/11/07/the-electoral-college-and-popular-vote-predictions-thread/#comment-1948020

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  443. Boy….. we were wrong about Trump. All of us.

    Where does the loyal opposition go from here? I don’t know. But for now, let’s all enjoy drinking the salty tears flowing from the SJWs and liberals.

    lee (55777a)

  444. Dammit, I meant to say that I hope Kaine is finished nationally.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  445. Pennsylvania puts DJT IN THE White House. Just as Pat predicted with a rick roll.

    Hilarious if true. I’ll give you that. I seriously did not predict that he would win PA.

    But the vote is not 100% in, is it?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  446. Dumbass poll worker actually looked at my ballot agog because he was stunned by the write in.

    He looked at my ballot! I’m not kidding! Idiot

    Mine, too.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  447. Boy….. we were wrong about Trump. All of us.

    Where does the loyal opposition go from here? I don’t know. But for now, let’s all enjoy drinking the salty tears flowing from the SJWs and liberals.

    I will drink, and am currently drinking, to that.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  448. @445-Boy….. we were wrong about Trump. All of us.

    Speak for yourself.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  449. #429 Ed from SFV, hey friend, haven’t you been stupefied enough for one evening? (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  450. @397 Patterico

    I’m betting that DCSCA is Brian Benben.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  451. Was the early vote of Nevada just a bulletin board insult to the rest of the country? Talk about a pyrhhic victory.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  452. Rove defended Ryan. I think he’s right.

    We are now at the point where we wonder when trump will do his first crazy thing, I’m bracing myself.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  453. Hillary is going to win California by like 3 million votes. Maybe they really should wall us off.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  454. 452. Then he’s one lucky bastard – got to see a lot of trim on Dream On.

    urbanleftbehind (a9ef6b)

  455. John Kasich. A VP that could have been.

    Ambassador to the International House of Pancakes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  456. We are now at the point where we wonder when trump will do his first crazy thing, I’m bracing myself.

    It’s four years of easy blogger content and crazy blog money

    Patterico (115b1f)

  457. I was seriously thinking about voting for Gary Johnson this year, but a few weeks ago a scandal hit the South Korean female president (let’s say it was almost email related) and I just couldn’t subject America to that kind of nightmare.

    I sold out. A little bit (LOL). My whole family is very religious and we weren’t feeling Trump most of the year. But eventually the bargaining phase hit us and we all voted for him.

    I just hope he quietly settles the Trump U lawsuit and make amends with this accusers. No circus, please. Win graciously and make nice with your enemies. Can Trump do that, PLEASE

    lee (55777a)

  458. @458- Release Elvis from Area 54.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  459. It’s four years of blog content for people who are still inside the tent. You chose your side and took up arms with the enemy. Don’t imagine all is forgiven now.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  460. He should offer the moon to get Dana Perrino for press secty. Sane, smart, savvy and knows how to play the game effectively.

    Dana (d17a61)

  461. Lol, Patrick. No slow news days!

    I agree with the French ambassador: the old world is collapsing.

    We did it without war too.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  462. @425 Patterico

    You know what’s even more depressing for you?

    Your grand kids are going to have to learn about President Trump in school.

    I know that was a bit mean but I did promise to gloat.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  463. It’s four years of blog content for people who are still inside the tent. You chose your side and took up arms with the enemy. Don’t imagine all is forgiven now.

    Hahahhahaha you think I am asking forgiveness from the likes of YOU, you piece of dog vomit?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  464. He leads her by 3,000 votes in PA with 92% counted. I’m sure the Democrats will have no problem manufacturing the necessary votes to put her over the top.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  465. It’s four years of easy blogger content and crazy blog money

    That’s a scary thought. With Trump, the circus is always in town.

    Dana (d17a61)

  466. It’s four years of the best show in town.

    Because we don’t want to be governed, we wish to be entertained.

    Like tonight. It’s a helluva show and still going on!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  467. @425 Patterico

    You know what’s even more depressing for you?

    Your grand kids are going to have to learn about President Trump in school.

    I know that was a bit mean but I did promise to gloat.

    They will. Grabbing pussies will be in the textbooks. Yay us!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  468. I get the feeling someone in the Clinton campaign has realized nobody bothered to write a concession speech.

    Edoc118 (05a689)

  469. Wait a minute, I’m no longer convinced he will win.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  470. Wait a minute, I’m no longer convinced he will win.

    Wny?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  471. The down side of this is, of course, it guarantees a chance at a 4 year gig for Alec Baldwin.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  472. and what was the significance of that ‘sound and fury nothing’ moment, little in retrospect.

    narciso (d1f714)

  473. He’s stuck on 254. He gets Alaska (3 electoral votes) and Arizona (11), that get’s him to 268, but he could conceivably lose in PA, MI, MN, ME, and NH.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  474. How is he not going to win Michigan?

    Patterico (115b1f)

  475. He’s stuck on 254. He gets Alaska (3 electoral votes) and Arizona (11), that get’s him to 268, but he could conceivably lose in PA, MI, MN, ME, and NH.

    Yeah . . . I don’t think so.

    But look at who you’re talking to.

    I can’t predict shit.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  476. Tied in PA.

    Dana (d17a61)

  477. Americans had to live with Reagan in ‘Bedtime for Bonzo.’

    We’ll adjust to Trump in Access Hollywood tapes and reruns of ‘The Apprentice.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  478. How is he not going to win Michigan?

    It seems to be tightening. And Democrats will find the magic votes somewhere like they always do.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  479. CS – You are correct! 🙂

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  480. Fox said that Wayne County in MI had not yet been fully counted.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  481. Fox is starting to walk back their earlier prediction that he would win, based upon the WI results.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  482. Limbaugh and Hannity cancel their IRS audits for the next four years…

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  483. @JVW:Wait a minute, I’m no longer convinced he will win.

    I’m not convinced there won’t be recounts and lawsuits dragging this out. But I hope that four weeks ago, when they needed to set all the dirty tricks in motion, that they looked at the polls and decided they didn’t need them.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  484. Ugh, that awful Richard Blumenthal in CT easily won reelection to his Senate seat.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  485. Wait a minute, I’m no longer convinced he will win.

    He’s almost got NE CD2, ME CD 2, he should get AK. That’s 5 more for 259. He leads AZ by 4%, he leads MI and PA by a bit and is tied in NH.

    AZ puts him at 270. MI or PA also puts him over. NH doesn’t really matter.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  486. DCSCA, Bedtime for Bonzo was an entertaining little picture. And aren’t you always banging the drum for entertainment?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  487. I thought CA schools sex ed was already not far off from Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  488. there’s something in the water over there,

    narciso (d1f714)

  489. He’s almost got NE CD2

    That hasn’t yet been called and already factored into his total?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  490. He’s stuck on 254. He gets Alaska (3 electoral votes) and Arizona (11), that get’s him to 268, but he could conceivably lose in PA, MI, MN, ME, and NH.

    There is NE2 that others have given him, but Fox hasn’t. There is ME2 where he’s WAY ahead. He only really needs one.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  491. Celebrities say they will leave the country. If Trump wins, he should encourage this by giving subsidies to those leaving. Call it Cash For Clunkers.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  492. It’s not too late for Trump to drop out guise!

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  493. The Canadian illegal alien vote?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  494. In store for the left:

    denial
    anger
    bargaining
    depression
    acceptance

    Listening to these democrats with bylines on these network shows talk about the rise of the white supremacists, Trump riding a wave of sexism, racism and bigotry, etc., ad nauseum only hardens my heart toward them.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  495. Looks like we’re voting to raise all sorts of taxes in California.

    But forcing porn stars to wear rubbers is running behind right now with 20% of the vote counted.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  496. @Pinandpuller:It’s not too late for Trump to drop out guise!

    Could have saved a lot of embarrassment for himself, if he’d dropped out last month when his polls were so bad.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  497. Just needs someone to wave him off.
    Pull out Don

    papertiger (c8116c)

  498. @494 AZ Bob

    Katy Perry can hide in my attic for the next four to eight years. This I can tell you.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  499. Clinton campaign folks have apparently sent messages to some of the show’s telling them, it’s over, Trump has won.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  500. OK, he’s back up by 45,000 votes in PA with 95% counted so I’m now back to thinking he’ll win.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  501. MeAgain going on about Trump’s sexist comments, etc., people in the background booing, Brit Hume cracking up

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  502. Gabriel Hanna

    Lets see what the map looks like when he’s not trying to throw the race to Hillary!

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  503. Looks like we’re voting to raise all sorts of taxes in California.

    Nobody asked me!

    I guess they did, actually, and I got my pathetic little one vote. And voted against every bond and tax increase there was.

    It mattered so much!

    Patterico (115b1f)

  504. Trump + 40k in Arizona. More popular than Sheriff Arpio

    papertiger (c8116c)

  505. California Prop 57 passes, early release of allegedly non-violent offenders.

    Dana (d17a61)

  506. DECISION DESK DECLARES TRUMP THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE USA!!!!!! He won AZ and PA.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  507. Funny stuff!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  508. Monica Crowley

    What went on with your hair

    Oh Monica Crowley

    Your pink blouse is making me stare

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  509. On 538.com he peaked right after Wisconsin was announced with 84% likelihood of winning. It’s slightly down now, currently standing at 77%.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  510. Into the mud scum queen

    Too soon?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  511. Trump + 40k in Arizona. More popular than Sheriff Arpio

    I wouldn’t put too much stock in Arpio’s loss. I have some friends in AZ who generally like him, but think that six terms as sheriff is quite enough and it was time for someone new.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  512. Something tells me this whole conflict between Trumpers, NeverTrump and the “establishment” was mostly in our heads.

    Because it sure likes looks Trump voters also came out in force for down ballot republicans. Rubio and Mccain have won and Ayotte will (one of the Never Trumpers) probably win. Ryan defeated a trump backed candidate by a comfortable margin despite threats from some of his backers.

    Where is this GOP civil war? All I see is a harmonious, united movement that swept Trump to power and unplified republicans in the senate and the house, although they’ll suffer some losses.

    lee (55777a)

  513. So all of the early released criminals from CA will flock to AZ since Sheriff Joe’s Tent City is no more.

    At least Sheriff Joe won’t be pursued by Loretta Lynch.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  514. CONCEDE. CONCEDE. CONCEDE so I can go to bed. CONCEDE. CONCEDE

    Patterico (115b1f)

  515. Does Obama still pardon the Clintons?

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  516. Decision Desk called the election btw. In case you care. It was already obvious.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  517. Where is this GOP civil war? All I see is a harmonious, united movement that swept Trump to power and unplified republicans in the senate and the house, although they’ll suffer some losses.

    Fuck Donald Trump.

    Does that answer your question?

    It’s all harmony and roses tonight. But the break is still there.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  518. You know who comes out of this looking really good? The Los Angeles Times poll which had him winning for the past several weeks.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  519. @Patterico:CONCEDE. CONCEDE. CONCEDE

    That won’t end it. Gore unconceded.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  520. The election was rigged. Trump should refuse to accept the results.

    nk (dbc370)

  521. @NJRob:Does Obama still pardon the Clintons?

    That’s the sort of petty spiteful thing he would do.

    They would forever be branded, even if they weren’t guilty.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  522. Does Obama still pardon the Clintons?

    Really great question. Probably not would be my guess. He’s mad at her for losing and knows now that some of his signature “accomplishments” like ObamaCare, Iran appeasement, and others are now in danger. He probably figures that she’s on her damn own from here on out.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  523. @522 Gabriel Hanna

    That reminds me of an Eddie Izzard bit. A girl took his virginity, but then she gave it back.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  524. NJRob,

    His legacy is but a lost dream. No pardon.

    Dana (d17a61)

  525. Come on AZ. One time.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  526. because in the end, it’s not about trump, he was able harness this wave of discontent more effectively then the others, is this thing on, and all these ‘first world problems’ as dana would put it that focus the attention of the commentariat and academe are not that significant,

    narciso (d1f714)

  527. Does Obama still pardon the Clintons?

    Really great question. Probably not would be my guess. He’s mad at her for losing and knows now that some of his signature “accomplishments” like ObamaCare, Iran appeasement, and others are now in danger. He probably figures that she’s on her damn own from here on out.

    If that’s the case, will Trump pardon the Clinton’s? He’s crazy enough to do so.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  528. He’s now up by 70,000+ votes in Michigan (75% counted) so I guess he’s likely to win there too.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  529. AZBob,

    Yes. New York values…

    Dana (d17a61)

  530. Look at all the crony captalist stocks tumble

    papertiger (c8116c)

  531. I see him pardoning her and claiming it’s to prevent a witch hunt under the vindictive Trump administration.

    Then taking 50 million from the Clinton Foundation as a going away present.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  532. “It’s all harmony and roses tonight. But the break is still there.”

    I don’t see that personally. Some Trumpers were so pissed off at Ryan and GOPe that they threatened to not support down ballot republicans, but that’s not happening right now.

    My point is that most Trump supporters were ordinary republican voters. They didn’t especially hate on the GOP establishment or someone like David French. They didn’t worship at Trump’s alter. They took into account his character flaws but decided give his populist agenda a shot. And they also voted for other republicans realizing that Trump can’t do it alone.

    Because the rabid fans who pack his rallies weren’t enough for him to win. Trump got help from somewhere else.

    lee (55777a)

  533. It was funny over at MSNBC: “Wha’ happened? All the African-Americans and Latinos came out strong and all those white folks done went and voted against us? Oh, the racial divide!”

    nk (dbc370)

  534. Take that twisty light mandate

    papertiger (c8116c)

  535. I see him pardoning her and claiming it’s to prevent a witch hunt under the vindictive Trump administration.

    He would lose 10 points in the popularity polls, and at this point I don’t think it’s worth it to him.

    He’ll make more money as an ex-President than Bill Clinton could ever have dreamed of.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  536. I’m looking forward to some windmill operators getting fined out the wahzoo for all the eagles they maimed.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  537. Ha! Fox News has on some pollster who is assuring us that the polls weren’t wrong, they were just misunderstood. Ohhhh-kaaaaay.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  538. @JVW:He’ll make more money as an ex-President than Bill Clinton could ever have dreamed of.

    The Clintons wrote the playbook for him. The Clinton Wormtongues will gravitate toward him. One of his people may be a serious threat in 2020.

    Fortunately I don’t think we have to worry about Chelsea Clinton running in 2020 anymore.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  539. Luntz is on another network telling them that Trump supporters want revenge, they want to punish the people who they believe have done them wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  540. Yeah, I turned off the sound when I heard that, JVW.

    nk (dbc370)

  541. If that’s the case, will Trump pardon the Clinton’s? He’s crazy enough to do so.

    Certainly, but only after the special prosecutor has indicted them. The counting coup is maximally important.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  542. Charlie Rose lapping it up.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  543. A lot of the experts think she’ll win the popular vote. My God, can you imagine all the caterwauling that will be going on among the left to abolish the electoral college over the next several weeks?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  544. Obama won’t pardon her if she can testify about anything he did.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  545. @Kevin M:Obama won’t pardon her if she can testify about anything he did.

    I bet the other way–he would pardon her if she could incriminate him. That way she’d have no reason to.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  546. For folks who feel triumphant, realize that those Dems feel like you did when Obama won in 2012 after Romney had led the polls all the way.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  547. Toomey wins in PA! Senate is now at 50 GOP in called races. Ayotte, Murkowski, and Blount (Up 5 at this moment) not declared, but favored.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  548. I bet the other way–he would pardon her if she could incriminate him. That way she’d have no reason to.

    She can’t avoid testifying after a pardon, and she better not lie ’cause that isn’t covered.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  549. that is all incumbent on keeping the grift going, yes the whole cabinet including obama was communicating on insecure servers by the look of it,

    narciso (d1f714)

  550. Toomey wins in PA!

    That means Trump wins PA because he was running ahead of Toomey all night.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  551. MEgyn Kelly really seems annoyed that Trump is going to be there for 4 years and that her girl didn’t win.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  552. @Kevin M:She can’t avoid testifying after a pardon,

    Testify in what? Nixon wasn’t made to testify to anything.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  553. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    Patterico (115b1f)

  554. This also suggests that the Dems will only pick up IL.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  555. That’s President Cheetos Skin to you!

    papertiger (c8116c)

  556. All these old decrepit people on NBC and an obviously distraught Savannah Guthrie wrestling with what went wrong, yada, yada.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  557. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    Patterico (115b1f)

  558. Testify in what? Nixon wasn’t made to testify to anything.

    How many times do I have to post the link to his testimony of 1975?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  559. Who knew that all this time, the sleeping giant was aggrieved white people.

    America is playing with fascist fire. God help us.

    Tom Ryberg (2c5752)

  560. Butler County in PA has 100,00 votes and it was running 70% Trump with only 14,000 votes counted. That’s why his slim lead is going to hold up.

    Shipwreckedcrew (31088f)

  561. We need another Scalia. The Senate better insist on the strongest Constitutional option available. No compromise. Nuke the filibuster.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  562. The Dem in MO has conceded. Blunt wins

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  563. Reminds me of the reporterette asking Santorum (way back when): “What happened with your opponent?!”

    nk (dbc370)

  564. @Kevin M:How many times do I have to post the link to his testimony of 1975?

    You don’t, I’ll take your word for it.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  565. GFY Ryberg.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  566. They really should nuke the filibuster as they will gain seats in 2018.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  567. Concede? You expect a Clinton to be gracious? Back away from the bottle.

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  568. Minimum of 51 GOP Senate, assuming shoo-in of Murkowski, regardless Ayotte and the LA run-off.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  569. @542 Colonel Haiku

    No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not paid in full.

    Epitaph of Lucius Cornelius Sulla

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  570. Martha McSally wins re-election by a lot, after losing by a handful of votes, then winning by a handful of votes two years later.

    A-10 squadron commander, now A-10 defender in Congress.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  571. @Kevin M:They really should nuke the filibuster as they will gain seats in 2018.

    If Party of Stupid won’t do this, after all the threats the Democrats made this year to do it, then all I can say is they deserve Trump.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  572. Chrissie Wallace is not happy

    Colonel Haiku (a7e08c)

  573. Concede? You expect a Clinton to be gracious? Back away from the bottle.

    She’ll dispute the election and claim it was all rigged.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  574. there is a narrow point, they have focused so much on demography, that they missed something, but they miss the two or four quagmires from the levant to the subcontinent, the serious underemployment question, the crisis in law and order, none of those are ‘first world problems’

    narciso (d1f714)

  575. If Party of Stupid won’t do this

    Mitch McConnell has no spine. If Trump insists, they will.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  576. Never, as in never, in my life have I more delighted in anticipating an HRC speech.

    Kevin M – encouraging and great A-10 news. Thank you!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  577. Patterico, I saw this on Twitter:

    Trump didn’t win.
    Racism won.
    Sexism won.
    Hate won.
    Lack of education won.

    Well, I would venture that calling people names has consequences. Notice how the person just couldn’t help but get that last dig in there.

    Unclear on the concept. I don’t think people voted for Trump because of his fabulous command of policy. Or ability to speak clearly. No, they were tired of being called names, and being insulted.

    Donald Trump is an orange haired upraised middle finger directed at PC nonsense.

    They fought back.

    Now, Trump will have to (if things work out) have to figure out what to do.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  578. Tingles and Rachel Maddon on MSDNC fighting over Hillary taking hispanics for granted. Matthews actually chiding Hillary for not being stronger on border enforcement……lol.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  579. @546 JVW

    They should have an electoral junior college for Guam, American Samoa, VI etc.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  580. Reading now that white women with college degrees, Lord love them, were only +6 for Hillary. Those were the “shy” voters.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  581. She was just a lousy candidate.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  582. I despise Trump as a person. He’s a nekulturny ahole of amazing dimensions. I doubt he’s read a book this century that didn’t have his picture on the cover.

    But he’s going to be the President and I can only hope that he’s a change agent in a useful direction.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  583. A class move (and one that would be akin to FDR with his rival Douglas) would be to put Cruz in Scalia’s seat.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  584. How many times do I have to post the link to his testimony of 1975?
    Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:24 pm

    42!

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  585. I’m sorry to see them anointing this Henry Olson guy as Pope of Polling. Did we not just learn anything?

    He had a damn magic 8 ball. He had no hard evidence, only hunches. The hard evidence didn’t come out until today.

    And a lot of people owe apologies to the last Pope of Polling, Nate Silver, who did way better than most and called the polls out for copying each other.

    Here’s the thing guys: none of you yet understand what you are doing. When it swings 20 points in two weeks it’s not likely you had anything real there.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  586. And if he tries to put people in camps or whatever crazy sh1t the Dems fear, he’ll be impeached and removed. Pence would be just fine.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  587. Looking at the electoral map, it seems to come down to pot smokers vs. beer drinkers. Beer drinkers always win.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  588. @560- Her field teams are looking in graveyards and broom closets for ballot boxes.
    ________

    Her surrogates gave it their all for a clearly crippled candidate who simply had too much baggage and was not naturally adept at campaigning. She sucked. And she alone, blew it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  589. She’ll dispute the election and claim it was all rigged.
    Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:31 pm

    Not quite enough, unfortunately for her.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  590. @Ag80:Beer drinkers always win.

    Pot smokers forget which precinct they are in.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  591. Well, I would venture that calling people names has consequences. Notice how the person just couldn’t help but get that last dig in there.

    Unclear on the concept. I don’t think people voted for Trump because of his fabulous command of policy. Or ability to speak clearly. No, they were tired of being called names, and being insulted.

    Donald Trump is an orange haired upraised middle finger directed at PC nonsense.

    They fought back.

    Now, Trump will have to (if things work out) have to figure out what to do.

    Simon Jester (c8876d) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:33 pm

    I’ve wasted time trying to explain that to some of my leftist acquaintances on social media. But they’re not bright enough to get it.

    One of them who was nominally a Republican posted that Germany knew all about electing a popular demagogue for high office.

    I just told her it was inappropriate though I really wanted to post links to all of the crime and violence they are experiencing due to their open immigration policies.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  592. AP CALLS PENNSYLVANIA FOR TRUMP.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  593. Chris Wallace is taking Juan Williams to the woodshed. Hilarious.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  594. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE. CON-CEDE

    It’s probably in an email and Wikileaks will dump it out tomorrow.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  595. A class move (and one that would be akin to FDR with his rival Douglas) would be to put Cruz in Scalia’s seat.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:37 pm

    Do you think Cruz would accept?

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  596. yes, but it conformed to the narra- lie that fit each moment,

    narciso (d1f714)

  597. I despise Trump as a person. He’s a nekulturny ahole of amazing dimensions. I doubt he’s read a book this century that didn’t have his picture on the cover.

    But he’s going to be the President and I can only hope that he’s a change agent in a useful direction.

    This.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  598. Dare I post it?

    MAWDE CANCELLED!!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  599. A class move (and one that would be akin to FDR with his rival Douglas) would be to put Cruz in Scalia’s seat.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:37 pm

    Senate assholes would not confirm.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  600. well that enough excitement, ‘good night and have a pleasant tomorrow’

    narciso (d1f714)

  601. RCP puts Trump over the top.

    Patterico, are you still drinking? I haven’t had a drop, more’s the pity.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  602. @581 Simon Jester

    Or as Dave Ramsey likes to say,”Experience is the only school fools learn in.”

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  603. It’s called a citizen’s divorce. Into the mud, scum queen! [YouTube]

    papertiger (c8116c)

  604. I think you are probably correct about the Senate refusing Cruz. Then again, Mike Lee would be a slam dunk confirmation.

    And, Cruz as SCOTUS would get him out of their hair forever.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  605. Senate assholes would not confirm.

    They’d be shut of him. Forever.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  606. @NJRob:Germany knew all about electing a popular demagogue for high office.

    People need to read some damn history. Hitler was never elected Chancellor, he was appointed Chancellor by President Hindenburg, and then he assumed the Presidency when Hindenburg died. THEN he (actually his party) won an election, which was meaningless because he’s already assumed all powers of government by then.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  607. Patterico, are you still drinking? I haven’t had a drop, more’s the pity.

    You have no idea….

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  608. HRC refusing to go to Javits Center to make a speech. Sorry, Pat.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  609. @Simon, Patterico: I’m only starting drinking, what with being on Pacific Time. And I am having a glass of the finest Kirkland Signature tawny port.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  610. I guess she is not wiling to accept the results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  611. Patterico, are you still drinking? I haven’t had a drop, more’s the pity.

    Waiting for the Hillary concession. Not sure if I will last…

    Patterico (115b1f)

  612. @Ed from SFV:HRC refusing to go to Javits Center to make a speech.

    She’s got something up her sleeve. Like Saruman from the Lord of the Rings, jeez.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  613. @Simon, Patterico: I’m only starting drinking, what with being on Pacific Time. And I am having a glass of the finest Kirkland Signature tawny port.

    Um, yeah, being on Pacific time myself, I only, um, just started myself, you know,

    Patterico (115b1f)

  614. @601- Oh, hell, I despised LBJ, distrusted Nixon, genuinely liked Jerry Ford, was disappointed by Carter, utterly hated Reagan, understood GHWB, was disgusted by Bubba, found Dubya a dope and Obama too much Spock, not enough Kirk. Trump is a New Yorker. He is a success in that town and as the song goes, if you can make it there, you can make it any where. He’ll hire good people and do just fine.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  615. New York loves Trump!

    59% Hlllary

    37% Trump

    In an election he won

    Patterico (115b1f)

  616. The final numbers look like 306-232

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  617. New York values. 🙂

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  618. I’ll drink to that. And if he builds a wall he’ll be the greatest of them all.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  619. Cruz to the SCOTS? ROFLMAO.

    Put down the bottle. His colleagues hate him. He’d never get confirmed by the Senate to a lifetime post.

    Cruz is going to be parking limos at the Trump Inaugural and be asked to be Ambassador to Chernobyl.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  620. “Obama too much Spock, not enough Kirk.”

    Obama is pure cling-on and I don’t mean an alien.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  621. And he still made it there. A city so great, they named it twice.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  622. UTAH went for Trump and nobody said a thing.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  623. @Patterico:being on Pacific time myself, I only, um, just started myself, you know,

    Don’t apologize, it’s 10 am somewhere.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  624. @626-A state full of nobodys said plenty-they voted for Trump and will have an Evan McMullin and decaf at McDonald’s on to way to work tomorrow.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  625. Yeah, who would have believed that Mormons would lie to pollsters?

    nk (dbc370)

  626. Cruz would a great justice. He’s certainly no politician.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  627. @nk:who would have believed that Mormons would lie to pollsters?

    I spent a lot of time around Mormons. They are very used to saying one thing among each other and one thing to “Gentiles” (really that is their word for non-Mormons).

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  628. A week ago we were talking about the possibility of Texas and Arizona going blue in a Southwest realignment. Now we have to ask if the real realignment might be in the rust belt with it now trending pink.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  629. Trump won ME 2. So, he gets 1 EC voter there. HRC got 3.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  630. Speaking of assholes, John Pedestal is now talking. What a tool.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  631. This is a fun YouTube video. You may see it a long tomorrow:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5qb-efQXY

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  632. And Hillary won’t be conceding tonight.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  633. Podesta.

    Party pooper.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  634. Wikileaks Podesta refusing to concede. Bitch move

    Patterico (115b1f)

  635. *a LOT

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  636. God, Podesta really is the scum of baby boomer liberal politics.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  637. Yeah, “counting” votes. That’s the ticket! That’s what we’re doing…

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  638. Podesta: “go home everyone”.

    Harkin (fabf46)

  639. I don’t like his emphasis on “counting” and “too close to call”.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  640. GayPatriot just suggested that maybe Hillary has come down with another case of “pneumonia” (hear the clink clink of the empty bottle of vodka).

    JVW (6e49ce)

  641. Talk about a party of robots. Podesta as much as says Go home loserz. We’ll be pinching a loaf in your cornflakes.

    And the zombies said yeah!

    papertiger (c8116c)

  642. Chuckie Schumer has been in the Witness Protection program all year. Aaaaaaaah. Hey, Schumer, you putz…when are you going to congratulate the Majority Leader?

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  643. Patterico (115b1f)

  644. The Left plays Calvinball. Rules are for you. They get to do whatever they want.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  645. People need to read some damn history. Hitler was never elected Chancellor, he was appointed Chancellor by President Hindenburg, and then he assumed the Presidency when Hindenburg died. THEN he (actually his party) won an election, which was meaningless because he’s already assumed all powers of government by then.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9) — 11/8/2016 @ 10:48 pm

    Thanks for that.

    NJRob (a07d2e)

  646. Fox has Trum p with Wisconson and no Penn,

    NBC has Trump with Pennsylvania, and no Wisconson.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  647. NBC gave him Alaska, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  648. Democrats have some consolation in having marijuana measures winning in many states.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  649. @AZ Bob:Democrats have some consolation

    As do all who love liberty. Seriously marijuana prohibition is dumb.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  650. So the nets have stopped updating their counts. Fox has had PA at 97% and the same vote numbers for over an hour.

    Why?

    1) scared, oh so scared to be wrong?
    2) keep the eyeballs. everyone is shutting off the tvs as soon as they call a winner.

    ArmedGeek (d73763)

  651. Turns out all those celebrities that want to leave the US will find out that other countries are not so easy to get into, such as Canada.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  652. Attorney General Chris Christie.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  653. Dirctor of Homeland Security Rudy Giuliani

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  654. Why concede? Detroit has not submitted all its results. Detroit is city with a population similar to Seattle in numbers and politics, and like Seattle, it is in the largest county in the state. That county is Wayne County, and it delivered a margin of +382,000 votes to Obama in 2012. Detroit, with a population of about 670,000, could easily be responsible for half of that margin. Perhaps they just need to know how many are required? In any event, Michigan is in doubt.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  655. CNN Trump wins Wisconsin.

    Think back to that escalator ride. What a long, strange trip it’s been.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  656. Murkowski (and Trump) have won Alaska. GOP Senate is guaranteed, regardless any remaining races.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  657. WaPo gives Trump the election. 276.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  658. The tears of #NeverTrump are the sweetest I have ever tasted. Republicans everywhere are celebrating tonight. But here in the Hillary supporting swamp, it’s anger and bitterness. Enjoy your time in the wilderness, it is well earned.

    Mr Black (7c41e5)

  659. AP ON CSPAN DECLARES TRUMP WINNER W/276

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  660. MAWDE CANCELLED!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  661. I was wrong about VA in that contrary to my assertion, McMullin was a non-factor. HRC won comfortably. His 70K votes would make no difference. I was right that she would win VA, though.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  662. Attorney General Chris Christie.

    Giuliani.

    Christie for Transportation Secretary.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  663. CSPAN SAYS CLINTON HAS CONCEDED ON PHONE TO TRUMP.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  664. Donald J. Trump is the President-elect of the United States of America.

    It’s four years of Dallas, folks!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  665. Fox has the nationwide tally with him leading by about a million votes, but California is only about half counted and she has a 1.4 million vote lead which I would guess will expand. Obama won CA by about 2.3 million votes in 2012, but he won by 3.2 million votes in 2008.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  666. Obama has to be stunned.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  667. Dead serious point and one I will never forget…The TV networks refused to call the election for DJT until AFTER HRC conceded to him. NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  668. Did she really concede? That seems so out-of-character for her.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  669. Its over she has conceded.

    MAWDE CANCELLED.

    DONALD J. TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  670. 673- YES

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  671. NBC reporter says she conceded

    https://twitter.com/KellyO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  672. JR WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  673. Chris Wallace can E.A.D.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  674. Once, maybe twice in your lifetime you get an election like this.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  675. Biggest loser:

    Billy Bush.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  676. Daughters in miniskirts! That’s America to me!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  677. Campaign ends precisely as it began – Trump descends from on high to announce his win.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  678. Biggest talk radio winner? It is not even close. Michael Savage called it the day Trump announced. He never wavered and he gave DJT respect when nobody else would.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  679. Sweet jesus is he drunk? I mean, I would be too … I actually am.

    ArmedGeek (d73763)

  680. Obama’s asleep.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  681. Bill Maher et al are like Johnny Depp in Nightmare on Elm Street right now.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  682. Trump’s first 3 am phone call came from Hillary.

    Pinandpuller (1f4dbe)

  683. Maher and Stewart can buy a bungalow in Calgary. Do time share with Canadian Cruz.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  684. Correction to 239:

    Florida was very close, I mean 10 votes or so, and then had a Trump lead.

    That was a typo.

    That should have read 100 votes or so. At one point, it was close, but it wasn’t taht close.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  685. Yesterday Mew hampshire (4) was declared rfor Hillary – the AP still has not called Michigan (16)

    http://www.270towin.com/news/2016/11/14/clinton-wins-new-hampshire-michigan-remains-uncalled-although-likely-trump_416.html#.WCti6WeQzcs

    Trump has 290 Electoral votes – taht will be 306 with Michigan and Hillary Clinton has 232.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  686. Popular vote tracker (spreadhheet does not show the number of Electral votes)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=19

    U.S. Total:

    Clinton: 61,964,263 47.8%
    Trump: 60,961,967 47.0%
    Others: 6,784,406 5.2%

    13 swing states:

    Clinton: 21,140,812 46.6%
    Trump: 22,018,140 48.5%
    Others: 6,784,406 4.9%

    37 other states plus DC:

    Clinton: 40,823,451 48.4%
    Trump: 38,943,469 46.2%
    Others: 4,563,266 5.4%

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  687. Sammy, does it break out California and New York voting? Either one of those distorts the popular vote numbers.

    Colonel Haiku (32652f)

  688. 694. Colonel Haiku (32652f) — 11/15/2016 @ 1:32 pm

    .Sammy, does it break out California and New York voting? Either one of those distorts the popular vote numbers.

    Yes, it does, and it is also continuing to update it. I couldn’t print out everything but I have the 133 swing states and the non-swing states in alphabetical order through Nebraska, for a total of 21 of 38.

    They didn’t count Virginia as a swing state, but did Maine, Michigan and Minnesota. They did it after the fact. The “Swing states: are states where either the final vote margin between the top two was less than 5%, or they switched parties between 2012 and 2014.

    We see maybe taht the biggest swing you see beween 2012 and 2016 is about 10% to 12%, except for Iowa, which is something onto itself, probably because theer;s so much campaigning there. there was margin shift of 15.3%

    Almost one quarter maybe it is closer to one sixth now, of the popular vote lead of Hillary Clinton comes from the District of Columbia Truump got just 4% there. Others got 5.1%, Hillary got 90.9%.

    The margin in California is around 3 million. so it is true that Trump got more popular votes than Hillary Clinton, of all places woth Electoral votes outside of California.

    Maybe 2 million more.

    Sammy Finkelman (ad84eb)


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