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11/1/2016

Revealed: The Real Reason for the FBI Investigations of Hillary Clinton: SEXISM!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 9:00 am



On October 18, I told you that a Hillary Clinton presidency was bound to bring us four years of war . . . between the sexes:

When Hillary Clinton is elected (it’s going to happen, Trumpers), brace yourself — because it will be time for a new “national conversation.” But this time, instead of race, the never-ending topic will be supposed inequality between the sexes. You hadn’t thought about it before — but now that you do, you know I’m right. . . . Every single criticism of Hillary will be called “sexism” by the collectivism crowd.

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In fact, I was so right, I didn’t even know how right I was — because, bonus! we don’t even have to wait until the inauguration for the sexism blame game to start! Why, we can start right now! as we learn from Robin Lakoff, a professor of linguistics at Berkeley, who has a piece in TIME titled Hillary Clinton’s Emailgate Is an Attack on Women:

I am mad. I am mad because I am scared. And if you are a woman, you should be, too. Emailgate is a bitch hunt, but the target is not Hillary Clinton. It’s us.

There are two kinds of people in this world: 1) people whose eyes involuntarily roll back in their heads upon reading something like that, and 2) idiots.

Lakoff lazily steals from the language of the black grievance industry, hardly bothering to repurpose the wording to suit her own grudge:

Clinton is guilty of SWF (Speaking While Female), and emailgate is just a reminder to us all that she has no business doing what she’s doing and must be punished, for the sake of all decent women everywhere. There is so much of that going around.

. . . .

But here’s Hillary Rodham Clinton, the very public stand-in for all bossy, uppity and ambitious women. Here are her emails. And since it’s a woman, doing what decent women should never do—engaging in high-level public communication—well, there must be something wrong with that, even if we can’t quite find that something.

Lakoff seems to picture James Comey as a cigar chomping, beetle-browed Neanderthal, lumbering up and down the halls of FBI headquarters, asking people: “What do you tell a woman with two FBI investigations? Nothing! You already told her twice!”

(I know, I know: it’s four investigations, not two; I just made it two for the joke.)

Lakoff repeats, again and again, her assertion that this sort of investigation could never target a man, with passages like this:

If the candidate were male, there would be no scolding and no “scandal.” Those very ideas would be absurd. Men have a nearly absolute right to freedom of speech. In theory, so do women, but that, as the creationists like to say, is only a theory.

and this:

The only reason the whole email flap has legs is because the candidate is female. Can you imagine this happening to a man?

Actually, perfesser, I don’t have to “imagine” it . . . because I can show you example after example. They have names like John Deutch (investigated for having classified information on his home computer), Bryan Nishimura (prosecuted for retention of classified materials from Afghanistan, with no evidence he intended to distribute them), and Donald Willis Keyser (sentenced to prison for taking home classified documents).

How do these ravings get published, then, when they are so obviously shrill, illogical, and off the mark? I could guess. TIME knows that publishing an article with a provocative headline like that will get a lot of clicks. They know conservative bloggers like me will fly into a rage, and write spittle-flecked polemics lashing out at the author . . . and all this means clicks for TIME, and money in the bank!

Yeah, I suppose that could be the reason. But I suspect a far darker reason: SEXISM. They published her piece because she’s a woman!

How do I justify this charge? What is my evidence? I don’t need no stinking evidence! In this Brave New World, my suspicions — when added to my righteous sense of anger and hurt feelings — provide all the justification I need.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

140 Responses to “Revealed: The Real Reason for the FBI Investigations of Hillary Clinton: SEXISM!”

  1. Just think, though. White heterosexual men could have our OWN grievance groups in the future! We, too, can make whiny grievance statements about microaggressing Others. Who needs freedom when we can have that!

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  2. Don’t forget Dinesh D’Souza, jailed for badthink.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  3. a reminder to us all that she has no business doing what she’s doing …

    This is an exceptionally concise summary of the problem. It is the basis for the strong bond between the candidate and her supporters. United they stand.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  4. Saying that all Hillary did was engage in high-level electronic communications is like saying that all Bonnie & Clyde did was walk into a bank in order to make a withdrawal.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  5. Oh? Was she being sarcastic? I missed that. Never mind.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  6. @Patterico:In this Brave New World, my suspicions — when added to my righteous sense of anger and hurt feelings — provide all the justification I need.

    YOUR suspicions and YOUR anger and YOUR hurt feelings are irrelevant because of YOUR privilege, and you have privilege by definition because of WHO YOU ARE.

    And if you don’t get that about the Brave New World you oughta figure it out soon.

    There is not a new standard. There are two new standards. One for you, one for them.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  7. ABC/WaPo tracking poll of registered voters now has Trump up 1%, a 13 point swing in a week, is still oversampling Dems 10% more than Reps.

    To say nothing of other sampled differences among the population favoring Donks.

    This ^ is something.

    DNF (755a85)

  8. The Left never lets anyone else play by the Left’s rules. The Left plays Calvinball.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  9. @DNF:a 13 point swing in a week,

    Hence my skepticism of “the polls say it’s over, Hillary’s getting elected”.

    If these guys are acting honestly, and public opinion is really that volatile, then there’s not much point in paying much attention.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  10. Robin Lakoff, born November 27, 1972, age 73. Nuff said?

    nk (dbc370)

  11. November 27, 1942

    nk (dbc370)

  12. engaging in high-level public communication

    Alas, hundreds, if not thousands, of the documents she communicated were classified.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  13. Past performance(chart):

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/10/26/ABC-Post-Polls-Table.png

    I recall believing, falsely, the tide had turned at this point for Romany. FL early voting has Republicans up 48K over the Borg.

    The question to be answered is how out-of-whack are the one-off poll models.

    DNF (755a85)

  14. She’s kim of wackoff, rhymes with?

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. I am mad. I am mad because I am scared.

    these are feelings

    i read somewheres this is how women approach issues

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  16. May be its just me, but I sense the respective campaigns are holding back on the last agitprop firefight.

    As tho Hillary is waiting to see how the nuke of Comey plays out before moving off the battered Grandmama narrative.

    DNF (755a85)

  17. Criminal former Secretaries of State Lives Matter!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  18. 16. Better, ‘next agitprop firefight’.

    There is only so much ordnance to launch in a shrinking target window.

    DNF (755a85)

  19. The ABC/WaPo result has Trumps Democrat support climbing to 9% and Republican support to 86%.

    Watch for Hillary to ditch battleground contests to gird leaners which seems to have started yesterday moving Ad buys out of FL into MI and WI.

    DNF (755a85)

  20. I hope that somewhere in the hereafter Henry Luce (and his wife for that matter) are reading Time magazine to see what it has become as it nears its 100th birthday. I think both it and Newsweek could do us all a favor by just acknowledging that they belong in another era and gracefully closing up shop. Leave the Robin Lakoffs of the world to outlets like Slate and Jezebel which never had pretentious of being highbrow or erudite.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  21. On second thought, my final sentence should read “. . . never had realistic pretensions of being highbrow or erudite.”

    JVW (6e49ce)

  22. Actually, perfesser, I don’t have to “imagine” it . . . because I can show you example after example. They have names like John Deutch (investigated for having classified information on his home computer), Bryan Nishimura (prosecuted for retention of classified materials from Afghanistan, with no evidence he intended to distribute them), and Donald Willis Keyser (sentenced to prison for taking home classified documents).

    They don’t count, because they all unconsciously self-identify as women; they just don’t admit it or know it.

    CayleyGraph (353727)

  23. If the candidate were male, there would be no scolding and no “scandal.”

    If the candidate were to identify with zirs assigned male birth gender, xi would be going to prison.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/navy-sailor-pleads-guilty-pictures-nuclear-submarine-article-1.2652586

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/17/politics/general-cartwright-pleads-guilty-leaking-information/

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  24. “ROGER SIMON: Last Call for the #NeverTrumpers.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/247920/

    Colonel Haiku (820854)

  25. Dinesh D’Souza pleaded guilty to one count of illegally making campaign contributions ($20,000) in the name of others. He served 8 months in a half way house, with 8 hours per week of community service, and paid $30,000 in fines. He was also required to undergo weekly sessions of psychiatric therapy, for reasons known best to good Judge Richard M. Berman. And he is on probation until 2019, which presumably has some influence upon his behavior and the Rights he enjoys in the interim. It is interesting to wonder what the population of half way houses would be like if the same standards were to be applied to those who contribute to Democrat campaigns with the expectation of subsequently receiving proportionate Christmas bonuses from their firms.

    The recent weaponization of the Federal Government has many of the trappings of the Soviet Union. This would be particularly true if we learn that the therapy prescribed for Mr. D’Souza involved psycho-active drugs. And it certainly could have. Conrad Black wrote of his experience in the Federal penal system, and it is sobering to think what this could become in just another few years for the rest of us.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  26. He was also required to undergo weekly sessions of psychiatric therapy, for reasons known best to good Judge Richard M. Berman.

    It was very Bolshevik of him, don’t you think?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  27. It is interesting to wonder what the population of half way houses would be like if the same standards were to be applied to those who contribute to Democrat campaigns with the expectation of subsequently receiving proportionate Christmas bonuses from their firms.

    Like, for instance, this Boston firm, a big donor to Democrats including the exquisitely-ethical Elizabeth Warren?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  28. Hillary only makes seventy seven cents for every dollar that a corrupt, dishonest, unlikeable, vengeful, anti-Semitic, crooked, entitled, lying Commie Alinskyite male presidential candidate would make.

    Dave (in MA) (037445)

  29. Robin Lakoff used to be Mrs. “Rhymes With,” per Wikipedia. Why she no longer is, I don’t know. She’s 74, he’s 75. Talk about your proglodytes.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  30. Of course it’s sexism. If Hillary had been a man, she wouldn’t have ever gotten to be a senator or SecState, much less the anointed candidate of the party apparatus. The only reasons she is where is she is today are grounded in the fact that’s she a woman, starting with the fact that she is the spouse of a heterosexual male former President.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  31. I suspected as much, d’nesh is as sharp as ever though.

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. In her rejections of all facts (Facts Lives Matter!), she managed to throw in an attack against Christians. And we all know Christian lives don’t matter.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  33. If all criticism of Barack Hussein Obama was racist, then it simply follows that all criticism of Hillary Rodham Clinton is sexist.

    The Dana pointing out the obvious (f6a568)

  34. There are two kinds of people in this world: 1) people whose eyes involuntarily roll back in their heads upon reading something like that, and 2) idiots.

    There is another category of people: those who cringe upon hearing the phrase “professor of linguistics at Berkeley” in the context of anything other than linguistics at Berkeley.

    JP (f1742c)

  35. Mr Nevi wrote:

    The only reasons she is where is she is today are grounded in the fact that’s she a woman, starting with the fact that she is the spouse of a heterosexual male former President.

    If only William J Clinton had treated her the same way he treated every other women, we’d never have heard of Hillary Rodham.

    The snarky Dana (f6a568)

  36. There is nothing of value at Berserkly, nor, I suspect, within a 50 mile radius.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  37. If only William J Clinton had treated her the same way he treated every other women, we’d never have heard of Hillary Rodham.
    The snarky Dana (f6a568) — 11/1/2016 @ 10:59 am

    And Chelsea would still only be a place for rich people.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  38. Your snark
    is on the mark
    But what sort of female
    Would marry Billy Jeff”?
    It would be the same tale,
    Just a different spouse
    As companion to that louse.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  39. If Hillary had been a man, she wouldn’t have ever gotten to be a senator or SecState

    nor First Lady. Being that Bill doesn’t seem to swing that way.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  40. There’s more than one Chelsea

    Chelsea is a diverse, working-class community that contains a high level of industrial activity. It is one of only 4 Massachusetts cities in which either the majority or a plurality of the population identifies as Hispanic or Latino, alongside Springfield, Lawrence and Holyoke. After flirting with bankruptcy in the 1990s, the once-struggling industrial city has reversed a prolonged decline and in recent years has enjoyed sustained economic growth. Thanks to its relative affordability and close proximity to Boston, Chelsea has added more than 1,200 homes since 2005, mostly loft-style apartments and condominiums suitable for small families or young professionals. There has also been significant office, retail and restaurant development throughout the city.[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea,_Massachusetts

    kishnevi (94a358)

  41. Clinton’s initials backward:

    CBJW

    Because I “c” things like that.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  42. you’re dyspeptic?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  43. nor First Lady. Being that Bill doesn’t seem to swing that way.
    That’s why I specified heterosexual in referring to him. After all, one can’t presume sexual preference these days, withough violating the Canons of Political Correctness.

    kishnevi (94a358)

  44. …Conrad Black wrote of his experience in the Federal penal system, and it is sobering to think what this could become in just another few years for the rest of us.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 11/1/2016 @ 10:24 am

    I expect to go to prison. Perhaps die there. Not for any actual crimes that are on the books now, such as murder, kidnapping, theft, what have you. But for crimes that nobody centuries past thought were crimes, but need to be simply because the Democrats have figured out if you’re convicted of a felony you can’t own guns. So, demonstrating all kinds of respect for the Second Amendment they’ll just convict everyone who’d want to own a gun of a felony. And they’ll just make them up.

    Oh, and then there are the upcoming speech/thought crimes. It’s not surprising, is it, that this administration did what no previous administration did? They reversed course and signed on to pass the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (nee the Organization of the Islamic Conference) international Sharia blasphemy and slander laws. Now known as UN Resolution 16/18.

    Their excuse for signing on to this is insane. They say believe it or not that the OIC agreed to “improve” their proposed resolution. As if a better bad idea isn’t still a bad idea. They act like it was somehow inevitable it was going to pass so the US had to negotiate the best deal it could. As if the US couldn’t keep vetoing it for the next 300 years like every administration
    had been vetoing it for the past 30 years.

    Citizen’s United. Hillary! hates the fact that in this country people can say any damn thing they want. Especially the truth. So if it takes allying herself with the Wahabbis to shut people up, that’s what she’ll do. Hate speech isn’t free speech, doncha know.

    I expect to go to prison for blasphemy.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  45. If Bill had treated Hill the way he treated other women, Bill would be at the bottom of New Haven Harbor.

    Speaking of resurgent Boston burbs, can anyone guess which type of crime Somerville had the ignominy of having the highest rates for in the late 20th century and what short-term historical factor within that City aided in that criminal endeavor?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  46. If all criticism of Barack Hussein Obama was racist, then it simply follows that all criticism of Hillary Rodham Clinton is sexist.

    The Dana pointing out the obvious (f6a568) — 11/1/2016 @ 10:57 am

    Also Mitt Romney who’d hike through three miles of swamp to help you push start your Jeep is worse than Hitler.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  47. On October 18, I told you that a Hillary Clinton presidency was bound to bring us four years of war . . . between the sexes

    Pfft. It’s been the Bickersons, Ralph versus Alice; Desi versus Lucy since the dawn of time.

    Now it’s Maude Findlay versus JR Ewing.

    One of them will make America grate again. The other will make America great again. Either one should be a great show, for Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained.

    “You wanna carry on mama’s legacy? Well, I wanna carry on daddy’s.” – JR Ewing [Larry Hagman] ‘Dallas’ CBS TV

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. @37– The Raiders. For now.

    Gramps (8a87b4)

  49. Wade is the appropriate term. He’d wade through a swamp to help you push-start your Jeep.

    Ever try to push start a CJ-5? A WWII Jeep MB weighed 2453lbs. Last time we weighed my buddy’s CJ-5 it was over 3600lbs. Jeep put a lot more iron in those things and that makes a difference. The important thing to know is that every Republican is worse than Hitler.

    I don’t know how we keep doing it. You’d think one of the worst genocidal dictators might be hard to duplicate, yet the GOP exceeds the mark every four years.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  50. There is nothing of value at Berserkly, nor, I suspect, within a 50 mile radius.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243) — 11/1/2016 @ 11:02 am

    I can recommend a few restaurants and bakeries. I can say that Oakland China Town is hands down better than SF. SF is a tourist trap and is overpriced and overrated. So Oakland is definitely within the 50 mile radius.

    But making a special trip just for that? H3lls no.

    Flame away. I realize I’m talking about the few grains of edible corn in one massive cow pie.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  51. Okay, so there might be a few things of value within the area. Possibly. But I doubt Greene, Greenwood, Ham, Lambert, Blount and the guys would consider today’s Raiders “a thing of value”.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  52. Chelsea Morning Photo Phoni Twitchell

    Woke up, I saw a Chelsea photo, and the first thing that I did
    Was to hurl outside outside my window, and the traffic hid teh sound
    It came a-reeling up like bad chili and burbling out my pipe and bum
    Oh, won’t you say
    She will go away

    Colonel Haiku (820854)

  53. I can recommend a few restaurants and bakeries.

    Heinhold’s First and Last Chance Saloon in Jack London Square is one of the best historic bars in America.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  54. No, John, I don’t even think the Raiders are a thing of value. I loved the Raiders growing up. I loved everything about the Raiders. Jim Otto, George Blanda, Jack Tatum, Kezar Stadium. And then one day Al Davis said, sorry kid, it’s just a business.

    I’ll go back for Dim Sum at the Jade Palace. But never for a Raiders game.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  55. The Raiders used to be my 3rd favorite team, with the Snake, Hayes and Haynes, Hacksaw, and the rest of the extras from “The Longest Yard” playing for them. A Steelers/Raiders game was almost operatic in its carnage.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  56. Heinhold’s First and Last Chance Saloon in Jack London Square is one of the best historic bars in America.

    JVW (6e49ce) — 11/1/2016 @ 11:56 am

    Jack London’s old hangout. Call of the Wild, White Fang, Sea Wolf, etc. Hence the name of the square. There are too many good bars, restuarants, bakeries (note I didn’t mention delis as I don’t think Oakland is top shelf in that category) to list, so I didn’t try. I like the way it seems to be sinking into the ground, and one end is lower than the other.

    But High Zod to you. I think I owe you a drink.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  57. Your tax dollars at work, California.

    M Scott Eiland (f5f84d)

  58. 1. Steelers
    2. Cowboys
    3. Raiders
    4. Dolphins

    26. Oilers
    27. Bengals
    28. Browns

    John Hitchcock (6ca243)

  59. The Raiders used to be my 3rd favorite team, with the Snake, Hayes and Haynes, Hacksaw, and the rest of the extras from “The Longest Yard” playing for them. A Steelers/Raiders game was almost operatic in its carnage.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243) — 11/1/2016 @ 12:01 pm

    I was at the game when Jack “Call Me Assassin” Tatum paralyzed Darryll Stingley.

    Not that it’s something to be proud of.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  60. I never liked football after Al Davis moved the Raiders to LA. Does the fact I’m pretty good with a 10 gauge to some extent redeem me?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  61. Asking for a friend, actually.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  62. And since it’s a woman, doing what decent women should never do—engaging in high-level public communication criminal activity…

    There- now that passage makes sense.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  63. I never liked football after Al Davis moved the Raiders to LA.

    The funnest football in America is played, in order, on the following days:
    1. Fridays
    2. Saturdays
    3. Thursdays
    4. Sundays
    5. Mondays

    (I choose not to recognize those minor-conferences in the NCAA who play Tuesday and Wednesday night games just for TV revenue.)

    JVW (6e49ce)

  64. Your snark
    is on the mark
    But what sort of female
    Would marry Billy Jeff”?
    It would be the same tale,
    Just a different spouse
    As companion to that louse.

    kishnevi (94a358) — 11/1/2016 @ 11:05 am

    You forgot
    “Burma Shave” 🙂

    Bill H (971e5f)

  65. If anyone is interested in the intertwining of my personal history and the NFL, which I strongly doubt, spending seven years in Japan didn’t help my ability to be a fan. The Armed Forces Network showed Monday Night Football on Tuesday night. So, given we were even then living in the information age, we already knew who won. Which kind of defeated the point of watching.

    If someone turns out a remake of the life of Wyatt Earp I’ll watch even though I know how it’s going to turn out. But not a football game.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  66. Article about write in votes- for every office except president in a general electrion about which it says nothing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

    (They are currently invalid in California in general elections not for president, and, interestingly, there are always two people in the runoff, evenif one wins over 50% in the first round. Some people have gotten on the general election ballot as a write-in in California in the first primary, when there was only one candidate listed forthat primary, but none has sofar, won.

    In 1946 William Knowleand was elected to the United States ssenate in s aspecial election for a two month term as a write in – the ballot contained no named candidates. This also used to be the case in Brazil until 1994 – the ballot had no names written for legislative candidates. That is how a rhinoceros won in Sao Paulo in 1959]

    What HotAir says about write-ins for president in November:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/11/01/report-write-vote-president-meaningless-literally-wont-count-anything/

    Write-in votes are often lumped together, and listed as “other” or the like, except maybe where a candidate has asked that his name be tabulated separately. In some states they are not counted at all.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  67. along similar lines,

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/10/31/journalists-truth-facts-trump-clinton-marc-ambinder/92847348/

    yes he’s a journolist hack, next question,

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. http://observer.com/2016/11/mccarthyism-2-0-has-infected-the-democrats/

    …Not to mention that President Obama and Secretary Clinton bear a lot of the blame for the dismal state of security in Washington that has allowed the Russians to run amok with their espionage and propaganda this year…

    This Schindler, I didn’t know him. I have no reason to doubt him, though. I believe he is who he says he is. But it’s exactly that. I’m gobsmacked at what comes out his mouth, a man who is capable of making sense other times. Why would Putin prefer some unknown as opposed to someone who has demonstrated her ability to put US national security in a dismal state? I don’t see how someone like Schindler can’t figure this out.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  69. volodya doesn’t like dealing with stupid people, he’s had eight years of that, yes medvedev wasn’t really in charge,

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. I’m not giving the game away. I was encouraged to file my DD214 as a matter of public record. Block .14, Military Education, on my DD214 says things like “Basic OPINTEL,” “Advanced OPINTEL,” “Intelligence Support to Counter Terrorism,” “Intelligence Photography Course.” It’s on there. It’s unclassified. I went through those courses.

    Since the fact I underwent the training is public record, does anyone imagine an adversary is going to have much trouble figuring out who I am?

    I mention this because I don’t like the KGB bastards and I never could. I had to respect them but I didn’t have to like them. Add this to the list of why I never got on board the Trump train. Trump’s bromance with Putin put me in a bad spot.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  71. Steve57 wrote, “Trump’s bromance with Putin put me in a bad spot.”

    Okay, but what about illary’s romance with the Muslim Brotherhood. Can’t an argument be made that it’s more troubling?

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  72. You tell me. How do I go from opposing the KGB to this?

    I don’t like any of this.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  73. Twenty freakin’ years down the drain.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  74. Have you not noticed my comments on the MB? Like I’ve forgiven anyone anything?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  75. thank god for Mr. Trump though

    he’s not giving up he’s gonna save us from that pig

    Heroic?

    Goddamn right he is.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  76. There is nothing of value at Berserkly, nor, I suspect, within a 50 mile radius.

    John Hitchcock (6ca243) — 11/1/2016 @ 11:02 am

    While she was a student at Cal: Allison Stokke. (Safe for work, but not advisable if your shoulder can be peeked over.)

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  77. Are you guys seeing the FOIA release the FBI did today on Bill Clinton’s Marc Rich pardon?

    Marc Rich and his friend Green were charges with racketeering, tax evasion–and illegal dealings with Iran during the Iran Hostage Crisis.

    It gets really good particularly when you consider how the Dem Machine has been screaming about Comey nor “following protocol” and when you consider Hillary might be looking for a pardon in the immediate future, at about pg.66 of the FBI release:

    Pursuant to the testimony at the aforementioned hearings, it appears that the requires pardon standards and procedures were not followed. DOJ rules and regulations governing the issuance of pardons requires that the pardon attorney at DOJ receive a formal pardon application to commence a pardon investigation. That investigation would include contact with the respective U.S. attorney’s office and investigative agencies. Based upon the findings of that investigation, a recommendation is made by the pardon attorney to the White House for the President’s review and consideration. U.S. pardon attorney, Roger Adams, testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on 2/14/01 that with respect to Rich and Green, “none of the regular procedures were followed.” Former Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder previously testified that he was the only person at DOJ notified of the pardon sought for Rich. Holder was contacted directly by Jack Quinn, Mark Rich’s attorney, and former White House Council.

    DRG (2fd998)

  78. that was back before the FBI was sleazy cowardly useless and corrupt

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  79. While she was a student at Cal: Allison Stokke. (Safe for work, but not advisable if your shoulder can be peeked over.)

    Ha! I remember checking out her pictures when she first became an Internet sensation. I started to feel guilty because I remember he dad saying that she was been stalked and followed in real life by weirdos in Berkeley, which is kind of a crappy thing to happen to an 18[year-old. She must be in her mid-20s by now; I wonder what she’s up to.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  80. Washington Post
    President Obama tells ‘spooky story’ to Samantha Bee: ‘Donald Trump could be president’

    failmerica lol

    amazon turdlord jeffy bezos so totally owns you losers

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. Huh, just read Allison Stokke’s wikipedia page. It discusses her rise to sudden fame and then the controversy over the sexualization of female athletes, but it does note that she parlayed her fame into what appears to be a pretty lucrative sportswear modeling career.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  82. Notice that as he’s heading out the door Dear Leader is spending a lot of time farting around with the likes of Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and one or two other TV hosts named Jimmy or Jon? Kind of says a lot about his accomplishments the past eight years, doesn’t it?

    JVW (6e49ce)

  83. We wish the last 8 years were funny and not filled with incompetence, malfeasance, malevolence and fundamental transformation. The. Worst. President. Ever.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. Steve, @70, have you noticed that most modern-day progressives use the House Un-American Activities Committee as an example of McCarthyism? Straw-men and mythical beasts play such a prominent role in the thinking processes of lefties. It is for this reason that I am suspicious of the credentials of anyone whose thesis is founded on “McCarthyism”. McCarthy was just a useful and somewhat toxic drunk used by the left to discredit the notion that the upper levels of the New Deal were rats’ nests infested with communists, which we learned later was true. However, in this case, Schindler is simply alerting us to the latest myth that will sweep the left.

    It’s therefore supremely ironic that those on the left who for more than a half century have detected the specter of McCarthy whenever anybody on the right mentioned Moscow, are now engaging in toxic political games that are deeply reminiscent of the infamous Tail-Gunner Joe.

    Schindler doesn’t distance himself from the McCarthy myth, but he doesn’t need to in order to point out the left’s hypocrisy. This “supreme iron[y]” doesn’t mean the left’s campaign won’t be effective. Lefties like to imagine that they are patriots too, so they might grab onto this as a means of showing their ardor. And this chest thumping is designed to shore up the base who are are the only ones who will salivate at the word “McCarthyism”. If you are “independent” or “undecided” at this point, reference to McCarthyism would make about as much sense as a graduate lecture on quantum physics.

    But the notion that Trump has plans to support Russian goals is based on nothing. Which is why the campaign is based on old myths and not new facts. Obama’s feckless foreign policy, implemented by none other than Hillary Clinton, has been a gold mine for the Russians, and they will be mining this rich vein for the next decade, irrespective of anything Trump might do. What concerns me is that Trump appears to admire the Russians. But this wasn’t enough to sway my vote.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  85. schindler, is a talented analyst, had a bit of a sexting issue, but he seems a professional curmudgeon, his fmr colleague tom nichols at the war college is incorrigible, downplaying the real corruption of the regime,

    so this administration and not a few of the socalled opposition, like maverick and goose graham have been playing footsie with salafis, like the ones that ran the syrian emergency task force, (hint the same group behind the libyan one), a prerequisite is saying yes sir, to every flack for the kingdom and the emirates, thinking they are our friend,

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. Steve57 (0b1dac) — 11/1/2016 @ 1:53 pm

    Why would Putin prefer some unknown as opposed to someone who has demonstrated her ability to put US national security in a dismal state?

    Because he thinks Hillary Clinton was responsible for ousting Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and the Euromaidan Revolution in February, 2014, and his loss of influence over the greater part of Ukraine.

    Victoria Nuland was instrumental in making that happen:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

    And Putin considers Victoria Nuland one of the females loyal to Hillary Clinton, because she was there also when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, and there’s also her husband, Robert Kagan.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/

    Since it was a matter of principle – or possibly realpolitik – with them, he considers weakening Russia to be something of high interest to Hillary. (He probably also thinks she lied to him.)

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  87. yes, bob, my amateur researching into the russian situation, told me for instance, the whole squirrel with alpha bank, had no tail, sherbank where mr. podesta, was a director, was shirley in the sanctions scope, kulkovo village, was financed by the latter to run exactly the hacking emporium, that they are employing,

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. the russians fought two wars to obtain crimea, and another two to hold it, as rick astley would say ‘they are never going to give it up’

    narciso (d1f714)

  89. actually clair boothe luce, would particularly look askance from the hereafter, on this particular piece she was an accomplished playwright, congresswoman, and ambassador, in her own right,

    narciso (d1f714)

  90. Comey said this? I don’t even like Comey.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  91. comey effeminate pooper gross disgusting ridiculous fbi trash

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. @ the Colonel, #87:

    The. Worst. President. Ever.

    Until the next one.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  93. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHLfVXTcAs

    A-wa – Lau Ma Al Mahaba

    The enemy of my bones.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  94. no, pikachu from his perspective, he has been doing his job splendidly, he knifed libby and gonzalez, possible future competition, with great skill, now looking out for the country’s interests that’s another matter,

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. yes I know ‘human sacrifice, mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together,’

    narciso (d1f714)

  96. [C]omey effeminate pooper gross disgusting ridiculous fbi trash
    happyfeet (28a91b) — 11/1/2016 @ 6:34 pm

    But I don’t need to lie about him. I can make the case using nothing but the truth.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  97. he put the pig above the law

    he is no good

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. Yeah. But that’s the truth.

    I tend not to let October pass without mentioning Leyte. I don’t think I have let this October pass without bringing it up. But whether I have or not hoist one to the veterans of Leyte.

    http://www.worldcat.org/title/little-wolf-at-leyte-the-story-of-the-heroic-uss-samuel-b-roberts-de-413-in-the-battle-of-leyte-gulf-during-world-war-ii/oclc/34116713

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  99. I think this is his followup, but as you say he dealt with leyte gulf in at least one other,

    https://www.amazon.com/Fleet-Flood-Tide-America-1944-1945/dp/0345548701/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. Actually Hornfischer dealt with Leyte in The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors.

    https://www.amazon.com/Last-Stand-Tin-Sailors-Extraordinary/dp/0553381482

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  101. remind me never to check his book out,

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/18/is-america-collapsing-like-roman-empire.html

    tom holland’s survey is worth a gander, it might be that comey is sejanus

    narciso (d1f714)

  102. John Batchelor has got on the radio now that pro-Putin person he regularly has * – he was evidently saying that the idea that’s trying to re-create is picture that isn’t true – he sid he is the pre-eminent statesman of the 21st century (that’s the person who’s turning Aleppo into Grozny) – we’re t allowd to say statesman – Angela merkel is astatesman. (but we can’t say Putin)

    Even the tone of his voice is horrible.

    —————–
    * Stephen Cohen is his name.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  103. John Batchelor has Cohen on every Tuesday night. He’s married to the Katrina van den Heuvel woman who writes for The Nation.
    I think Batchelor has the best show on radio.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  104. just one more question sir,

    https://twitter.com/alimhaider/status/793516521674772480

    narciso (d1f714)

  105. #109 Cohen’s married to van den Heuvel. I almost made it sound like Batchelor’s married to her. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  106. well a little stephen cohen goes along way he was interestingly a specialist on bukharian, one of stalin’s purge victims, but seeing how this administration has let him getaway not only in the caucasus but in the levant as well, while saying putin was losing,

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. and she’s the grandaughter of the founder of mca, jules stein, just regular folk, her father, william, was one of the ones who found diem in a maryland monastery,

    narciso (d1f714)

  108. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 11/1/2016 @ 2:37 pm

    what about illary’s romance with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    There is no such romance. That’s Russian propaganda, which has been particularly successful in Egypt.

    http://disinfo.com/2014/08/new-conspiracy-theory-hillary-clinton-created-islamic-state/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/08/12/how-hillary-clinton-created-the-islamic-state-a-new-mideast-conspiracy-theory/

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/obamahillary.asp

    Of course, there’s Huma Abedin, and her background, but she’s probably a triple agent. The Clintons married her to Anthony Weiner to cement her loyalty.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  109. right sammeh and alamoudi and barzinji and all those other folks are also figments of our imagination, like elibiary at homeland, because a fan of the ayatollah, is just the sort you want there,

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. right sammeh and alamoudi and barzinji and all those other folks are also figments of our imagination, like elibiary at homeland, because a fan of the ayatollah, is just the sort you want there,

    narciso (d1f714) — 11/1/2016 @ 7:35 pm

    Lend me your hat I may vomit.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  111. as you’ve seen the dems always have a bete noire, who they sometimes help us depose, and stick us with the consequences, chiang, batista, somoza, the shah, they have to get rid of like ‘others want a pony,’

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/26/book-review-the-lost-mandate-of-heaven-the-america/

    narciso (d1f714)

  112. John Batchelor just asked Stephen Cohen about two charges against Putin – that he killed democracy in Russia, and that he’s making war aaginst NATO (that last one is a charge I never heard)

    Cohen starts by saying that Putin reversed the drop in population.

    Then he says founder of democracy in Russia was Gorbachev and Yeltsn fired on a Parliament and Yeltsin rigged his own re-election in 1996 with the help pf president Clinton.

    Hes saying maybe Putin went too far but he didn’t begin the de-democratization. He also wants to say that theer’s no evidence that Putin ordered the assassination of anyone. He’ll mwention three cases starting wih Ana Polistkaya. He’s says the editor doesn’t beleive Putin ordered it. the other one is death by poisoning f Litvenenko in London. (he claimed he worked for Brit int – lot of people who had amoive to kill him whydid Putin do it

    The reason is because of charge that Putin cauded the Moscow bombings – and who else has access to polonium?

    Cohen is against that British inquiry that ruled that in all probability Putin ordered it. now he talks about Boris Berzhosky claiming that hearing relied on him.

    Now he’s saying what came out Lesin – someone thought maybe to have bene killed b PPutin and it was ruled it was an alcoholic – yes maybe – but Cohen ten argues all cases are like that.

    This is so false.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  113. The Clintons may have lost China, and lost Russia, but they srill have connections to Kazakhstan and to Sunni Arab backers of terrorism, and I’m not sure what exactly the relationship is, but it’s not a “romance” with the Muslim Brotherhood – it’s something to do with others with money. Persian Gulf statelets.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  114. If it were anyone but you, narcisso, I’d put money them not getting the quote.

    Now that I’ve given the game away, I expect everyone who knows how to Google to figure it out.

    So no money.

    http://www.fark.com/comments/9346440/-72-years-ago-yesterday-13-USN-ships-faced-off-with-a-larger-IJN-fleet-including-Yamato-which-by-itself-outweighed-US-force-This-will-be-a-fight-against-overwhelming-odds-from-which-survival-cannot-be-expected-We-will-do-what-damage-we-can

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  115. A fan of the ayatollah too, maybe?

    But he’s said to be for the Moslem Brotherhood:

    http://pamelageller.com/2014/09/muslim-brotherhood-dhs-advisor-mohammed-elibiary-was-fired.html/

    (Of ccourse, Iran has supported groups like Hamas, which is almost a branch of the MB – the <B likes to splinter so that different parts an have dfferent fates.

    I don't think we have the "Order of Battle" straight at all.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  116. close enough, sammeh, they purge someone like phil haney, who did the hard work of tracking networks, and they promote the likes of jeh johnson,

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. sometimes I don’t think he reads his own material,

    http://observer.com/2016/04/panama-papers-reveal-clintons-kremlin-connection/

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. Hillary doesn’t scare me because she’s a woman. She scares me because she is frickin’ weird. You know like those old women when you were a kid that told you to save dimes or her cats would kill you and got real excited when they saw balloons. That kind of weird.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  119. she’s a corrupt, inattentive’ weasel ‘who smells of elderberries,’ from podestas’ own account, and she will bring ‘rage and ruin’ if not stopped, python and credence clearwater,

    narciso (d1f714)

  120. Always trust Robert Spencer. Always, narcisso.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  121. so about them cubs,…

    narciso (d1f714)

  122. Sorry. I was thinking of Jihad Watch. My bad.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  123. he’s more scholarly, she has field experience, but for those ‘with wisdom’ the facts are clear,

    narciso (d1f714)

  124. narciso, @127, the link to the Clare Lopez article is much appreciated. I especially liked this:

    What this means is that the Ikhwan intend to co-opt the leadership of this country by fooling it into “believing a counterfactual understanding of Islam and the nature of the Muslim Brotherhood, thereby manipulating or coercing these leaders to enforce the MB narrative on their subordinates.”

    Obama’s role in this will take a long time to fully appreciate. His world-wide apology tour immediately after his inauguration is the first clue. But the scope of the MB victory in spreading counterfactual propaganda about islam is astounding, with or without Obama. The success of the top down assault on Western Civilization is becoming more and more apparent. Geert Wilders’ trial, which was to begin yesterday, is just another example of the use of the powers of the state to suppress knowledge. Wilders skipped out on the trial. The specific issue is whether a Dutchman can say he’s not pleased to have so many Moroccans in his city, but the subtext is, of course, whether the Netherlands can continue to exist as more and more muslims immigrate and fail to integrate. I imagine that Wilders will not be allowed to expand the conversation. It is clear the State will focus on the use of the words “Moroccans” and attempt to label his words as discrimination.

    This is very much as Alice experienced Wonderland. Mass slaughter and violent rape are one side of the issue, but the powers that be have been convinced that we must not speak of such things directly. Instead we must attempt to deal with this within the bounds of legal terminology, and that terminology is controlled by those who embrace the counterfactual support of an ideology that motivates the murderers and rapists.

    One of Trump’s strengths is that he appears to be unresponsive to the linguistic arguments that are used to limit our understanding of the problem. Whether he is just too unimaginative to understand how clever the muslim apologists are, or whether he sees this from another perspective entirely, say winning and losing our country, isn’t all that important in the short term.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  125. Thanks bob, wilders has gotten some of the Steyn re the human rights kangaroo courts

    narciso (d1f714)

  126. …The specific issue is whether a Dutchman can say he’s not pleased to have so many Moroccans in his city, but the subtext is, of course, whether the Netherlands can continue to exist as more and more muslims immigrate and fail to integrate…

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 11/1/2016 @ 10:18 pm

    It was my job for twenty years to be the bearer of bad news. It’s still my job. I think Wilders gets it. I don’t believe Trump does.

    Surah 3:28 Ali ‘Imran (Family of Imran)

    Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.

    Muslims can’t integrate. Or assimilate. Whatever word you want to use.

    https://www.thelocal.de/20080211/10293

    Turkish Prime Minister says ‘assimilation is a crime against humanity’

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has told Turks living in Europe that they do not need to assimilate into their host societies. Erdogan was addressing an audience of 20,000 Turks gathered in Cologne on Sunday. The audience included Turks living in France, Belgian and the Netherlands, as well as in Germany.

    “I understand very well that you are against assimilation. One cannot expect you to assimilate,” Erdogan told the crowd. He said, “Assimilation is a crime against humanity.” …

    There are Muslims who are under the impression they can. Some of you may know such Muslims. But they’re wrong. Erdogan has his Islamic theology correct. Demanding that Muslims assimilate or integrate into a non-Muslim society is a crime against humanity as you are demanding the Muslim turn away from Allah.

    Surah 6:114 Al-An’am (The Cattle)

    [Say], “Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?” And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

    Surah 4:59 An-Nisa (The Women)

    O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

    Obeying Dutch law, obeying our Constitution, is haram. Muslims are commanded to obey Allah and the purported prophet. Allah’s law is not negotiable. It is not subject to a vote. The very idea that the law can be decided democratically is, according to Islam, blasphemy.

    Erdogan is ideologically correct. And make no mistake; Islam is an ideology, not just a religion. To expect a Muslim to conform, integrate, assimilate, whatever, into a Western society and its legal system IS to demand the Muslim turn away from Allah and Allah’s legal system.

    It’s maybe important to keep in mind that this administration sided with the Muslim Brotherhood as the supposed “moderate” alternative to AQ or IS. I don’t approve of the decision as the MB is just as bad as any other jihadist group. But this administration cast them as the moderates, so for the sake of argument I’m going with it just for now. Obama et al were royally PO’d when al Sissi and the rest of the Egyptians deposed the MB because, frankly, they s*ck and apparently the Egyptians have more sense than we do. What did the MB name their party? The Freedom and Justice party. What meant by that is freedom from man’s law, and the justice of Allah’s law. There is nothing radical or extremist about this. This is mainstream Islam. Muslims are commanded to desire to be ruled by Shariah, Allah’s law. To expect them to want to be governed by some other system of laws is expecting them to apostatize.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  127. Sources of Islamic law. First, the Quran. Second, traditions. Third, analogy. Fourth, reasoning. Reasoning can never overrule the first three.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  128. Steve, I prefer Ataturk to Erdogan. The two offered very different paths forward. It is remarkable that all the best people in our government have chosen Erdogan, which is to say they want to reestablish the Ottoman Empire. It is even more remarkable that our foolish ruling class does this in the expectation that we can all get along and live peacefully. And they do this in the face of Erdogan’s purge of tens of thousands of people who lean toward the Ataturk future. This is the problem with an ideology like socialism that is so utterly materialistic. Its adherents are incapable of understanding that nurturing a well fed, increasingly powerful muslim minority in the our midst is an existential threat. It gets down to the way muslims are taught to think, as you point out. At best, muslims, meaning people who wish to follow islam, can be parasites feeding on the periphery of modern society, at worst they will succeed and become its masters. And modern society cannot function for very long relegating logic to last place.

    BobStewartatHome (a52abe)

  129. Like Clare Lopez points out bob, there’s a reason the Tories are called the stupid party, they aren’t blameless.

    narciso (d1f714)

  130. But the scope of the MB victory in spreading counterfactual propaganda about islam is astounding, with or without Obama

    Everybody agrees that there is counterfactual propaganda about Islam.

    What people disagree about is who is doing it, and what is counterfactual, and who is target audience.

    It’s either:

    A) Counterfactual propaganda about Islam is being directed to Muslims by people “hijacking a religion” and only by “extremist groups” like Al Qaeda and ISIS.

    B) Different kinds of counterfactual propaganda about Islam are being directed to different groups of Muslims, by people who characterize themselves as mainstream and moderate, and there is also some counterfactual propaganda about who is lying to Muslims about what their religion was a generation or two ago, and also about what they themselves are saying. That is, many of the “good guys” are not “good guys.”

    C) Groups like al Qaeda are telling the truth about Islam, and only lying to non-Muslims, and other Moslems are lying when they say Al Qaeda et al is “hijacking” the religion because they are really the most authentic Muslims.

    People like George W. Bush tende to be pick A, but B is the truth. C is said by some anti-Islam “experts”

    The best proof A is true is that the people who wind up joining such groups invariably have had no lifelong deep connection or knowledege of Islam, but are either “born again” or converts.

    Now, traditional Islam can allow “honor killings” to go unpunished, or be forgiven, and there may be some other wrong things it may endorse or tolerate, but it cannot endorse or tolerate killing unarmed people at random, and not really even starting a war (without war crimes) without it being a real government that is doing that.

    We didn’t see this before. It’s not just because Islam was weak.

    There is a problem with people possibly getting contaminated by this ideology.

    Sammy Finkelman (3fda43)

  131. Bob @136, it’s profound that you mention Kemal Ataturk. The Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe for a reason. In order to fix the situation, he had to abolish the Caliphate. He had to divorce Islam from its political and military aspects.

    It was fine, as far as Ataturk was concerned, if you had Islam as your personal faith. But the fact that Islam had a fatal retrograde effect on society when practiced publicly. MacArthur did essentially the same thing as military governor of Japan. No more, he decreed, would Shinto play a public role. No more, Ataturk decreed, would Islam play a public role.

    I’ll just mention some (of the many) reasons why. There is no work ethic in Islam. There is no idea that labor is noble. What is noble is living off the jizya, the tribute money that the subjugated unbelievers pay the Muslim holy warriors.

    Narrated `Abdullah bin Abi `Aufa:

    Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords.”

    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2818
    In-book reference : Book 56, Hadith 34
    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 73
    (deprecated numbering scheme)

    Every “Golden Age” of Islam corresponds to a new subject people to plunder. Eventually they ran out of people to plunder. In the mid nineteenth century the Ottomans had to ask Britain and France for help in their war against the Russians. The Western Europeans agreed, but for a price. The price was abolishing the dhimma. The jizya was so excessive that many Christians and Jews had to choose between starving and selling their own children into slavery.

    You may be familiar with Tennyson and his poem about the British involvement in that war.

    When the sick man of Europe abolished the dhimma, and consequently the jizya, the sick man got even sicker.

    So, facing facts, Ataturk abolished the Caliphate.

    That was in 1924. In 1928 Hassan al Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood. This should be a wake up call on multiple levels. Just to choose a couple, the US was not a major player in the M.E. in the 1920s. Idiots like to say our foreign policy has caused “blowback.” Explain what policies in the 1920s caused this? Israel didn’t exist. But Hassan al Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood as a jihadi organization, to reestablish the Caliphate, because according to Islamic tradition only the Caliph can authorize offensive jihad. And offensive jihad is a religious obligation for all pious Muslims.

    It’s funny; some people hold out hope that Islam will have a reformation. It almost did. Erdogan is reversing course.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  132. It’s arduous to seek out knowledgeable folks on this subject, but you sound like you recognize what you’re talking about! Thanks

    Fidel Jarrett (c9a358)


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