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Hillary’s Quickie Email Press Conference: Vote Early Before This Gets Worse!

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:00 pm

It’s almost as she’s . . . a little bit worried by what might come next.

Don’t blink or you’ll miss the whole thing. The statement and Q&A together last less than four minutes. That said, my favorite part comes at 2:10, where the panic visibly starts to creep in as she sees it all possibly slipping away:

You know, I think people a long time ago made up their minds about the emails. I think that’s factored in to what people think, and now they’re choosing a President. So I would urge everybody to get and vote in all the states that have early voting, because I think Americans want a President who can lead our country, who can get the economy working for everyone, not just those at the top, and who can bring our country together.

Please hurry. Vote as soon as you can! Before . . . before the next shoe drops . . .

Her prepared remarks closely track the points made in the John Podesta email reported earlier. The talking points are clear: 1) We’re 11 days out from the election; 2) Comey says he doesn’t know if the emails are significant; 3) nothing will change from the FBI’s decision in July; and 4) hurry up and get the details out.

Her smile has never looked so forced.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]

89 Responses to “Hillary’s Quickie Email Press Conference: Vote Early Before This Gets Worse!”

  1. She’s right. People already have made up their minds. Some people know she’s a crook, and care. Some people know she’s a crook but think The Greater Good demands she become POTUS. And most people believe the MSM when it says it’s all a bunch of nothing.

    Kishnevi (dfdff5)

  2. “Don’t blink or you’ll miss the whole thing. The statement and Q&A together last less than four minutes. That said, my favorite part comes at 2:10, where the panic visibly starts to creep in as she sees it all possibly slipping away…”

    Nailed it.

    Don’t listen, just watch the darting eyes betraying utter panic.

    Like when 47 year old Grandma Maudie was informed she’s pregnant. 11/13/1992

    “God’ll get you for that, Walter.” – Maude Findlay [Bea Arthur] ‘Maude’ CBS TV

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  3. everyone of those questions she’s asked is a plant

    and piggy sticks to the script

    it’s all a nasty diseased piggy pig can do

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. She gonna put this on blast just in time for Sunday sermons:

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  5. So I would urge everybody to get and vote in all the states that have early voting…

    Hurry up and vote before I screw up again– yeah, that was the priceless take away. She never answered the question about talking with Huma, either.

    Those darting, nervous, Captain Queeg-eyes. Watch that presser and imagine she was discussing Russian troops invading Ukraine, or a nuclear sub accident… or an embassy attack… she projects little confidence on her own on the fly… no crutches…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  6. I find no use, even humor in her flimsy excuses, of course there were no yoga pics, she shuffled classified, ts/noforn info like playing cards, traded favors from nations and oligarchs, some of the latter finance our enemies directly and indirectly, in the language of casino ‘it’s not like they forgot to steal’ the whole world is buying our assent, and likely the preworld war one treaties, we don’t even know which party we are supposed to respond to,

    narciso (d1f714)

  7. Deny, deny, deny, deny. “It’s old news.” “At this point what difference does it make?” Same old, same old. Typical clinton.

    Jim Morgan (a9b7c7)

  8. Pillory Clinton
    just fu*k me running it’s on!
    Huma in hiding

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. Greetings:

    Queen Tantalus.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  10. teh Granny Grifter
    Pantsuited Pantload Panic
    Defrauds and Swindles

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. Johnny Podesta
    looks like Mitch Miller bug things
    in “Zanti Misfits”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. What an investigation!

    FBI: “Did you commit this murder?”

    Hillary Clinton: “No.”

    FBI: “Thank you.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. Hildabeast Clinton
    gotta dance this mess around
    teh Soupy Shuffle

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. illary sure seems a little nervous considering all those emails were about yoga class!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  15. the hot yoga, name escapes me now, is the worst,

    narciso (d1f714)

  16. Prediction: There will be a Wikileaks drop or dump or whatever you wish to call it during the coming week that will be so heinous, so totally unacceptable, that it will turn this whole thing upside down. There’s a lot of positioning starting – I suspect – in anticipation of that.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. Col., I have that feeling too. Or at least, that Wikileaks is saving up something nasty for just before Nov 8, so Hillary can’t spin it.

    But I hope it doesn’t happen, because it will mean the next election there will be more, whether by outsiders or partisans, and next time some of it will be forgeries.

    Kishnevi (1e395f)

  18. #12 Colonel Haiku (LOL!)
    You forgot to mention the FBI’s follow-up question. They really went ‘bad cop’ on her when they asked,

    FBI: “Are you finished answering our questions?”

    Hillary: “Yes, you may go now.”

    FBI: “Thank you.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  19. @6. There’s a lot of Ralph Kramden in her when she’s caught between bases like this and not sure which way to run. A mop wig, a little lipstick… Uh-huma-na uh-huma-na uh-huma-na…

    “And a-wayyy we go!”– Jackie Gleason, ‘The Jackie Gleason Show’ CBS TV

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. ‘Johnny Podesta.’

    Sounds like a 1966 action figure from Marx.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. A much better strategy for Hillary to direct attention away from the FBI investigation would be to find an unattractive woman to accuse Donald Trump of sexually harassing her. Trump would then spend the next five days tweeting about how he would never have sexually harassed the woman because she is not pretty enough for him. Any coverage of the FBI investigation would be relegated to the background in the meantime.

    Joshua K. (cd074b)

  22. This is dense pack. She’s REALLY afraid of the money scandals with the Foundation and reports that Bill has been charging millions in “expenses” (top-of-the-line hookers aren’t cheap!). So, back to the email thing which should generate a lot of noise and change no one’s mind.

    Kevin M (ba98c9)

  23. well going back to coffee gate, with the riady’s and the charlie trees, I’ve found investigations of the clinton, and bringing accountability against them seems a dry hole,

    narciso (d1f714)

  24. I expect that the Daily Mail is going to miss this campaign terribly.

    Kevin M (ba98c9)

  25. Effin’ Hannity just can’t shut his trap, can he?
    He had Gingrich on to talk about the re-opening of the investigation, yet he kept talking over Newt.
    At one point, Hannity said, “I hate to interrupt you, but blah blah blah.”
    Then Newt said, “I love how you say you hate to interrupt me, but then you go ahead and do it anyways.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  26. I think they predicted cannibalism and civil war with brexit,

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. That’s it, I’m voting for Trump!

    Dejectedhead (8bc1cd)

  28. Vote early and vote often.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  29. I guess you guys know that this may be one of the most monumental days in modern U.S. history regardless of who wins. Neither will have a mandate. Neither will be trusted. John Roberts made sure the Constitution is null. We are entering banana republic territory. I guess the only answer is which side are you on? The graft-dealing, dishonest, extremely smart, hate-mongering left or the graft-dealing, clueless, capitulating, dishonest right?

    What a time to be alive.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  30. we’re due for a social war, as per the chinese proverb,

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. were you the one with the shirt?

    narciso (d1f714)

  32. She’s Don Clintone, the leader of an organized crime syndicate.

    Evan3457 (f518ce)

  33. as bgates, a commenter at instapundit and althouse, once put words in kim il sung’s mouth,
    ‘why don’t I get this kind of press’

    narciso (d1f714)

  34. yes, about that, it’s way past media bias, more like what tyrell called the kultursmog,

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. @Evan3457: That would make Anthony Weiner Fredo.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  36. Podesta:

    …And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.

    They don’t mind ignorant subjects — they actually prefer ignorance — but they hate uppity ignorant subjects.

    Kevin M (ba98c9)

  37. The very best part is Clinton world pretending they can’t just ask Huma what she emailed.

    MayBee (a7822d)

  38. A lot of things I don’t know,
    but I thought after a few WikiLeaks dumps that they were going to save the most destructive for last, making it uglier and uglier in steps.
    And we don’t have to worry about them starting to make stuff up, they already did that with Bush’s national guard letter.
    Like I said months ago when the anti-Cruz Canadian birthers said we can’t nominate him because of the attack on his eligibility,
    it should be clear that the Dems will promise stuff that they can’t produce and play character assassination against their opponents
    forever and ever
    Which makes campaigning against them easy,
    tell the truth, don’t get distracted, and never go on defense,
    Read Nehemiah as an example.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  39. Director Comey serves at the pleasure of the President; there is no way on God’s earth he would have announced the reopening of the investigation eleven days before the election unless whatever was discovered was so bad that, had he delayed the announcement, some of his underlings would have leaked it anyway. By announcing the investigation, he may have forestalled that leak until after November 8th.

    What does it say when of the two major party candidates, Donald Trump is the one with better character?

    The Dana seeking an honest man (f6a568)

  40. I would urge everybody to get and vote in all the states that have early voting

    Notice she didn’t say “I would urge everybody who lives in states with early voting to get out and vote”, and with the Clintons, you gotta parse every word. Hillary just asked her supporters to commit voter fraud by urging them to vote in multiple states, didn’t she? Does that sound ridiculous? More ridiculous than “That depends on what the definition of ‘is’ is”? You gotta parse every word.

    Jerryskids (3308c1)

  41. Being very ignored in all of this was the Wikileaks revelation that Hillary Clinton is a drunkard. She’ll have a hangover answering the 3 AM phone call because she’s drunk at 3 PM.

    As loathsome as Donald Trump is, he’s (slightly) less worrisome than having an habitual drunk as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, and having the sole authority to use nuclear weapons.

    I did site searches, this morning, of both The New York Times and The Washington Post, for “sober her up”, the words used in Jennifer Palmieri’s e-mail to John Podesta, and neither paper had even mentioned it. The professional media are covering up what I believe is a huge story.

    The cold sober Dana (f6a568)

  42. What I like are the Democrat pundits who are all aghast at the concept of some information at the last minute impacting a Presidential election.

    Strangely they change the subject about folks like Harry Reid.

    I really do despise hypocrites.

    Simon Jester (c63397)

  43. All the media stories are either how Comey is a dirty rotten scoundrel or how the Republicans are taking advantage of the revelation.

    The First Amendment and the media go together like the Second Amendment and Adam Lanza.

    nk (dbc370)

  44. Dana,
    I could be wrong,
    I heard that the FBI director, once hired, actually has a 10 year appointment and would need cause for being fired,
    but that could be wrong,
    But I agree with you,
    either he is playing with us to stall past the election,
    or he knows something is coming that will not only be a blow to HRC, but make him look like a fool as well, if he doesn’t get in front of it,
    and he doesn’t want to look like a fool.

    MD in Philly (cf3c76)

  45. The brain damaged drunk’s exhortation to vote early may reflect the fact the AA early vote has been very disappointing for Democrats. The purpose of early voting is to allow the whipping teams a warm up period prior to election day and she appears to be sober enough to understand the whipping teams aren’t hitting their targets in what were very easy locations in ’08 and ’12.

    Rick Ballard (bca473)

  46. “WELL, SHE ALREADY FAILED THE 3:00 AM PHONE CALL TEST THE NIGHT OF BENGHAZI, NOW THIS: Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Needed Someone to ‘Sober Her Up’ at 4:30 in the Afternoon.

    To be fair, as Iowahawk quips, “At last, a candidate I can really connect with on a personal level.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. It ain’t about yoga pants or Eleanor Roose er, Chelsea’s wedding plans…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. Mebbe she can’t count on the loyalty of the underlings.

    Gunny Ermeys Reveille Alarm Clock

    Sounds like my dad. No wonder I had no trouble with AOCS. It was like going home.

    I am not unique. I know for a fact that there are FBI agents that consider their
    oaths more sacred than their loyalty to Clinton. Whether they are enough, or can overcome the LHMFM bias remains to be seen.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  49. If this take is true, it seems to imply that Comey may have realized that the mutiny he had on his hands was at a boiling point and he’s decided it would be prudent to allow his investigators an unfettered opportunity to take this wherever it might lead.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  50. But, but coronello! The Obama administration assures me the Iranians don’t have the bomb. Only nutcases like me worry about it.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)


    I’d at least had cup of coffee handy. As a consolation prize. He was getting some well earned sleep, and somebody f***ed with it.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  52. @ Cold Dana & others linking or referencing the “sober her up” story:

    That’s a phrase which is often used in contexts having nothing to do with actual alcohol, most typically to describe someone who’s so out of touch with reality that they need someone to help them recognize reality. The context — subordinates debating who among them ought run the risks of trying to implement the unpleasant reality check in an upcoming meeting or phone conference — strongly suggests that exact usage to me here.

    If Hillary Clinton has a serious booze problem, at her age and after the number of years in which she’s been under a public spotlight, I’d expect some corroboration that actually involves alcohol. Color me unimpressed and unpersuaded by this “email bombshell,” which I think is being magnificently overplayed. When it comes to finding grounds to criticize the Clintons, one need not strain like this.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  53. As I’ve learned with both SEALs and Marines, they won’t necessarily kill you on the spot. They’re content to let it soak in and, maybe, kill your worm-like insignifiant arse later, needs be.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  54. Has anyone here ever tried to actually sober someone else up? Unless you’re using IV fluids, you’re not going to get much improvement over just putting the subject to bed. You feed a drunk coffee and you get a caffeinated, jittery drunk, but they’re still drunk. You put a drunk in a cold shower and you get a shivering, angry drunk, not someone who can pass for sober.

    We’ve seen tons of indications that Clinton has a problem grasping things that the rest of us consider part of our everyday working reality — things like “It’s bad when you pretend you’re above the law.” These Clintonista emails are indeed replete with many, many, many examples of subordinates gnashing their teeth and venting their frustrations that their boss is insulated, isolated, and prone to spectacularly bad judgment pretty much 24/7/365. One doesn’t have to assume she’s a closet alcoholic to explain her consistent choices over the years, and indeed there are far better explanations that actually have direct empirical support.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  55. She’s not exactly Josiah Bartlet.

    Kevin M (ba98c9)

  56. If Hillary Clinton has a serious booze problem, at her age and after the number of years in which she’s been under a public spotlight, I’d expect some corroboration that actually involves alcohol.

    An actual alcoholic can’t turn their desire on and off for convenience. They will be drunk on a schedule that does not align with anyone else’s, even in the face of known adverse results.

    Her problem is closer to the insulated rock-star’s — I WANT = I GET — where people who tell them NO a lot don’t stay employed. It’s much worse when you have actual power.

    Kevin M (ba98c9)

  57. Seconding Beldar on “sober her up”, I read the exchange and clearly they intended it metaphorically, as “who ‘s the person who has to tell her this is a really big mess and she needs to start taking seriously”.

    And that person was right. The cats keep getting out of the bag no matter how many times the media stuffs them in.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  58. Has anyone here ever tried to actually sober someone else up?…

    Beldar (fa637a) — 10/29/2016 @ 9:32 am


    When I was at AOCS and none of could have legally gone to New Orleans as it was out of range

    And we had all gone to New Orleans and one guy was still drunk when we tried to cross the quarterdeck that Sunday night. It kinda worked as we were allowed to pass. But nobody was fooled. The next day my DI slapped his hand down on my shoulder as I was in the line for breakfast, and told me in no uncertain terms he knew what I had been up to.

    I think the best evidence I can offer for why I wasn’t the drunk party in all this is my attempt to reconstruct my hat. Officer candidates are required to be in uniform, and consequently to wear a cap that is something between an officer’s and a chief’s cap. The gold ribbon is different, the anchor is different, but the uniform store was open, the parts were there, and I could get wire cutters.

    It required timing, showing up before liberty expired and before they turned the lights on.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  59. Her close advisers drawing straws on who has to give Hillary a reality check, like she were a Yakuza mob boss who will demand they cut off a finger for the impertinence.

    Sounds right to me.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  60. I wish I could come up with an exact quote, but as Marine he was willing to let it slide once never again.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  61. While I also tend to believe it had nothing to do with alcohol but rather a metaphorical “sober up,” I also think it would be foolish and naive to rule out a booze problem. To do so would be to ignore what we already know to be true about her: She is a well-practiced, congenital liar who is paranoid and fearful, and obviously surrounds herself with people that will do everything in their power, and beyond, to make sure no one sees behind the veil of secrecy. The woman hides many, many things, and for years, successfully so. That this latest crack in the sealed casing which has exposed yet more deception, may indeed eventually lead to evidence that she has a problem with imbibing too much. But that has hasn’t happened yet.

    Dana (d17a61)

  62. Alcohol may not have had anything obviously to do with this, like you’ll know.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  63. Dana — maybe she’s a meth addict. Seems to fit the profile.


    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  64. the propaganda sluts at National Soros Radio are in step with the prescribed talking points

    blah blah what the hell is comey doing announcing this 11 days blah blah blah

    but they did add this tasty lil small plate:

    But others argue that Comey’s announcement was necessary for transparency’s sake. Former DOJ official Carrie Cordero tweeted:

    \\Carrie Cordero @carriecordero

    Missing from Comey right/wrong debate: major reason why he had to go public this summer: AG’s tarmac visit & non-recusal/non-accountability.
    8:14 AM – 29 Oct 2016

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. Dana — maybe she’s a meth addict. Seems to fit the profile.


    shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 10/29/2016 @ 10:31 am

    That would explain her grill and robotic body language.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  66. I’m not a big fan of the twelve hour bottle to throttle rule. If you’re going on duty, don’t drink to excess. How hard is that? Three glasses of wine is not excessive.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  67. shipwrecked crew,

    Ha. I think the sublime mess of person that she is, should be blamed on none other than herself. Because to blame it on anything other than her amoral core self is to provide her with an excuse, and I, for one, refuse to do that.

    Dana (d17a61)

  68. Even if Clinton got the boot pre-election, we’d see Kaine elevated to top o’ the ticket and if he were elected, we’d hear constant complaints, not of the VRWC, but of the *TAAMLCC.

    *They’re Always After Me Lucky Charms Conspiracy

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. last night i got stuck downtown – i actually swiped my ventra and went down to the platform at 4:30 hoping to avoid the cubs fans but it was worse than ever so i went back up into the city and did this thinger I been wanting to try for to satisfy my own wonderings

    so I did a flight of 2 classic absinthe cocktails: the sazerac and the waldorf

    i started with the sazerac and had one chilled, and then one wholly undiluted

    and then the same with the waldorf

    My feels is an undiluted sazerac is the way to go. They’re *never* served this way so you have to ask.

    It’s more complex and playful than the Waldorf, which seemed a rather stern little fellow in both incarnations. (Granted there’s no real consensus on how to build a Waldorf so I might play with that one a little more sometime.)

    Then I went and flew fighter jets.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  70. Check out my new Downfall parody
    Hitlary finds out FBI reopened email investigation

    Opionated Vogon (2c61a2)

  71. @Opinionated Vogon:Check out my new Downfall parody

    Did you make that one where Hitler finds out about something he didn’t know, and he gets mad? I love that one! That’s the one where the scene is from a real movie but it has subtitles you made up?

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  72. The morning after: a few notes based on experience.

    Reporting this morning is that there are “tens of thousands of emails”, and what Comey granted to investigators was the opportunity to review them for their relevance, meaning they don’t know what they have.

    Couple of thoughts:

    The earlier investigation concerned emails that went through the Clinton server — not emails in general. Abedin had a email address, so any emails on her address account would have been relevant. But the investigation did not, to my understanding, extend to the broad email practices of her entire inner circle.

    A couple things to keep in mind here — no search warrants were obtained and no grand jury subpoenas were issued. That means the investigators did not get Abedin emails from her AOL account, which is being referred to in reporting.

    There are two ways to access email material that might be found on a laptop. First, you can search the hard-drive for emails that have been downloaded and stored there. Second, you can sign on to the person’s email account through the web portal if you have their address and password.

    If the computer was provided voluntarily, then the owner of the computer has likely relinquished any expectation of privacy under the 4th Amendment, and everything on the computer is fair game.

    if the computer was provided pursuant to a grand jury subpoena, and the owner did not got to court in order to limit the use that can be made of what might be on the computer, then what might be found on the computer is likely fair game.

    If the computer was obtained via a search warrant, then any search of the computer must be tailored to extract only the information relevant to the investigation that was the basis for seeking the search warrant. The GENERAL analogy is that a computer is like a filing cabinet full of thousands of documents. The search warrant only authorizes the agents to seize evidence relevant to the crime under investigation, and not to just rummage through the everything.

    I’ve looked, but cannot find, any reporting on how Weiner’s computer came into the hands of the FBI — voluntarily or otherwise.

    But what I find very interesting in Comey’s letter is the part of his second to last paragraph which says “I agreed that the FBI should take the appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails….”

    A significant question to me is how “tens of thousands” of emails would find there way onto the hard drive of a laptop. Remember, the second way to access emails on a computer is to sign into the account through the service provided using the username and password. BUT, my understanding of the law in this regard based on my own experiences as a fed — though I haven’t looked at the issue in a few years — is that any such effort requires consent or a search warrant. Just having access to the computer and the account isn’t enough to legally be able to read a person’s email account. And, not only is a search warrant required, sometimes the circumstances are such that a WireTap order is necessary. My recollection on this is foggy, but I think when law enforcement wants to read emails that have not yet been opened by the recipient, that’s considered an “intercept” of a communication in the same fashion as listening in on a telephone call — a T3 intercept order is required.

    So, back to the question of how tens of thousands of emails end up on a laptop’s hard drive, and what have the investigators actually seen so far.

    This laptop was obtained by investigators most likely in late Aug or early Sept., by a completely different group of FBI agents with no connection to the Clinton email investigation.

    The hard drive was sent to FBI tech agents in the same office — every office has agents trained to exploit electronic data with hardware and software assigned to them. It is not necessary for the device to go to the FBI lab or some office in DC. I would not expect that there was any extraordinary sense of urgency in processing the hard drive for the Weiner investigation. The case is pretty ordinary in terms of those kinds of cases, and the FBI has thousands of them open nationwide.

    The first thing the Weiner investigators are going to get back from the tech agent’s forensic analysis is simply an index of everything on the hard drive. From there the tech agent and the case agent will narrow their focus to stuff that actually matters to the investigation.

    In the Wiener case that’s going to include dick-pics, emails to particular addresses associated with the case, any emails attaching dick-pics, and any TM data that is stored.

    With regard to emails, they would have to be downloaded onto the hard drive and stored there. But pervs involved in the stuff Weiner was involved often times catalogue their activity by storing stuff.

    On emails, the index produced by the FBI’s forensic software can be sorted by “To”, “From”, Subject, and by search terms. My guess is that through this sorting method, the Weiner investigators realized they had a large number of Abedin emails, including Abedin emails that went to/from/thru her account.

    The “tens of thousands” of emails might only be a reference to how many are stored on the computer. If its Weiner’s computer, which seems to be the case, the biggest part of them might all have to do with him and his activities. But the FBI agents on his case would have immediately grasped the significance of any emails in the archive, and the potential relevance to the Clinton investigation.

    Oftentimes the FBI will go through internal hurdles involving agents in one case asking for internal permission to share evidence with agents in a different case — especially when different offices are involved. I’m quite confident that the agents on the Clinton email investigation have a detailed index of all the emails they reviewed in their investigation, and maybe a list of emails they could identify as having existed but where no copy of the email was ever found.

    The way Comey’s letter is written, my guess is that the Clinton case agents have seen a list of emails on the index from the Weiner computer, and there are emails in the index that don’t match their index of emails they have reviewed already, and they sought approval to get the actual emails themselves along with the meta data from the case agents on the Weiner case.

    This would explain his comments in the letter that they didn’t yet know the contents, and he agreed to allow the agents to take the “appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails.” It might be that some/all of the emails were deleted on the computer, but located using the forensic tools used by the tech agents.

    Last point — if tens of thousands of emails have been downloaded onto the hard drive of the computer, who did that?

    Wild Ass Guess: One dick-wad former Congressman, failed NYC Mayoral candidate, without any political future of his own any longer, might have regularly in his free time trolled through is wife’s personal email account reading her exchanges with some of the most influential folks in the Democratice establishment — probably just to see if they were telling his wife to dump him. But he might have been wise enough to spot potential “blackmail” material among what he found, and he was regularly downloading and storing the emails for his own potential needs in the future.

    That’s just a guess, but if true, its karma that Billary.Inc have certainly earned for themselves.

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  73. @shipwreckedcrew:Last point — if tens of thousands of emails have been downloaded onto the hard drive of the computer, who did that?

    I would assume Outlook did that. Doesn’t it do that unless set it up so it doesn’t?

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  74. outlook syncs a local cache to the server (ost) but also makes it very easy for to archive locally (pst)

    very easy but rather sloppily for my tastes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  75. Gab and HF — ok, that’s a tech level beyond me. I didn’t know that a email program would automatically store emails on your hard drive. Is that a default setting? Does it only work on emails that have been opened? Does it also capture attachments? Or only attachments that are opened?

    shipwreckedcrew (56b591)

  76. There is a delicious irony that yet another sexual predator might take down Hillary Clinton.

    Dana (d17a61)

  77. #76… SWC… following your logical journey is enlightening. There is great wisdom springing from your years of experience but I also note a sense of resignation with a dash of sadness in that wisdom.

    Colonel Haiku (97d6f1)

  78. Weiner, under a pseudonym and a bad plastic surgeon, will be a pool cleaner in a certain man’s resorts

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  79. the default for outlook is to keep a mirror on your hard drive of what’s on the server

    this is so you can work with your emails when you’re not connected to the internet

    say you have access to the same email account from outlook on your pc at work and your pc at home

    if you delete something from your inbox at work, when you pull up your outlook at home that night it will be gone from your inbox there too

    but you can also choose to archive your emails – and a lot of time you HAVE to because your server accounts has a limited amount of storage – so outlooks has a feature that lets you move all email over x number of days old off the server and onto your hard drive

    (remember though your company is making its own incremental backups of everything on the server all the time)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  80. your server *account* has a limited amount of storage i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  81. ugh

    so *outlook* has a feature that lets you move all email over x number of days old off the server

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  82. There are days I regret my clearance. And having to take it seriously when certain people obviously do not.

    SWC – You’re not wrong, exactly. You have some details wrong, but not in a way that really makes a difference in the end. Mostly technical details, but this stuff is always changing and hard to keep up.

    The other thing to remember is that Weiner’s investigation is partly an investigation into possible child porn. He was, after all, sexting with a 15 year-old. The FBI takes that stuff seriously. There are a few internal walls that are bypassed when it involves the exploitation of children. That may have played a factor, although it normally goes the other direction (you are investigating something illegal and find child porn during your investigation).

    Semper Why (61d231)

  83. They are absolutely DESPERATE to know what the FBI has so that they have time to spin it before the election.

    There is NO other reason that Hillary and her minions would be demanding that this info be released.

    The Exile (13a303)

  84. @SWC: In my experience, every time you open up Outlook it starts downloading your emails, whether you have chosen to open them or not, whether you’ve opened it already or not. I don’t know how easy this is to turn off.

    I work in an industry where individuals are personally liable for data breaches. Consequently I never open Outlook on any other machine except my workstation. If I need to use my work email I use the webmail or I log in to my workstation remotely. I do not have, at home, any machine with Outlook on it.

    Probably at some point Huma Abedin logged on to her HRC mail through Outlook using Weiner’s machine. If she’s not super tech-savvy, she probably downloaded every email she’d ever sent or received up to that date onto Weiner’s machine.

    So there’d be tons of stuff on there that Hillary never sent over when she was supposed to.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

  85. One of the reasons I use Linux and open-source applications is because they do not allow me to simply consume software. I have to have some idea of how it works in order for it to work. I do sacrifice some convenience, and I never have the latest and greatest, but I don’t get spyware or viruses and I don’t accidentally commit Federal crimes when I check my email.

    People just buy this stuff and use it with no idea of what it’s doing. Which is why the tech giant have such outsize influence on everything.

    Gabriel Hanna (c791b9)

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