Trump Walked In On Miss Teen USA Contestants While They Were Changing — Some As Young As 15
The other day I highlighted for you the story about Trump bragging about bursting in on beauty contestants while they were changing. Some of those beauty contestants are now speaking out and confirming the story — and some of them were as young as 15 years old:
Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.
“I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.
Trump, she recalled, said something like, “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”
Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it “shocking” and “creepy.” The third said she was clothed and introduced herself to Trump.
. . . .
Until now it was never alleged that this behavior extended to the teen pageant, in which contestants can be as old as 19 or as young as 14.
The defense will be that they are Hillary voters, but that argument does not quite hold up:
“I don’t support either” Trump or Clinton, said Billado, the former Miss Vermont. Of the other three who remember Trump coming into the dressing room, one said she was also undecided but would not vote for Trump, and another said she’s a Democrat. A third said she was not voting for Trump and wouldn’t say more because “this is not about politics.” But, she added, “When he started running for president, that is one of the first things I thought about: Oh, gross, this guy walked in on us in the pageant.” Girls were “just scrambling to grab stuff,” she said, “whatever garments they had.”
The idea that Trump would actually do this is not shocking to many of us. But lately, a contingent of Trump supporters has argued that Trump’s “grab them by the p***y” comments were mere braggadocio, and that we don’t know Trump actually did that. (Never mind the increasing number of women who claimed Trump grabbed or kissed them inappropriately. Never mind that he didn’t say he was joking. We Trumpers know: he was joking!) This story is another nail in the coffin of the argument of the Trumpers that “when Trump talks about doing inappropriate things to women, he’s just bragging.” Apparently not. Apparently, when Donald Trump is near attractive women, sexual assault or other seriously inappropriate behavior may be on the menu.
Even if they are teenagers.
Isn’t he just the best?
[Cross-posted at RedState.]
I’m just so shocked!
The Dana trying to get in the first comment (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:02 amOf course, no one can prove any of this now, either way, but we’ve reached — and we reached it a while ago — the point at which there are few accusations along these lines that aren’t believable. I have no proof that this accusation is true, but have no problem at all believing it.
But, I’m not one of those Republicans who have deserted Mr Trump, because I was never a Republican who supported him.
The coldly realistic Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:05 amMeh! Trump is just confused about his gender identification. So he was just ahead of the cultural changes. He just chosen to identify as a teenage woman at those times.
Unless of course he exposed himself, then he could be charged as a sex offender.
Charles (34d600) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:07 amhttp://ktla.com/2016/05/17/naked-man-spotted-lurking-in-moorpark-high-schools-girls-locker-room-sought/amp/
Then again, while I wouldn’t make them illegal if I had the power to do so, the whole idea of Miss Teen USA and beauty pageants for underaged girls pretty much invites this kind of [insert slang term for feces here.] You’ve got young girls, competing based on their looks, and it’s a surprise that men want to look at them? No parent should ever allow his daughter to enter these kinds of things.
The Dana who's the father of two daughters (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:10 amRemember, happyfeet tells us that Mitt Romney is the perv, not Trump.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:12 amWhat is this, Buzzfeed!?!?
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:15 amTrump is not a good option. But Trump is not my worst option.
I’d rather have a vulgar, entitled wolf to ladies who can’t get away with anything ever again, than a woman who knows what’s better for us while failing every test of that.
There’s that voice to consider as well.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:15 amTrump may be a horse’s ass but you have to agree with one thing he said. Hillary should be in prison.
AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:17 amStories about Trump from 19 years ago are far more relevant than what Hillary is doing right now.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:18 amBut stories about Bill Clinton from 19 years ago…mwah! The height of relevance!
Patterico (4d2a8d) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:21 amI think it’s all relevant. But then, I do not have a preferred candidate.
Patterico (4d2a8d) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:22 amI think we get it, Buzzerico.
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:24 amOkay, that was just mean…
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:24 am8…thumbs up, Bob!
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:25 amStories about what Hillary is willing to do to advance her own political power, things she still does, has done for a lifetime, and what she has PERFECT PROTECTION to continue doing (remaining above the law, and able and willing to limit free speech) is pretty relevant.
Timely, even.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:25 amBut stories about Bill Clinton from 19 years ago…mwah! The height of relevance!
No, they’re not any more relevant. And the Democrats consolidate behind the candidate they nominated, no matter what Bill did 20 years ago, no matter what Hillary does now.
And so does the media, who’s spent the last four weeks yelling “Squirrel!” every time something Hillary did comes out.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:28 amThere’s no doubt in my mind her husband could walk in a room, grab the lady of his choice by the pudendum, in front of her, and she and anyone else would overlook it.
It’s the overlooking the press and claw enforcements will do that is dangerous. Don’t forget I warned you, trump can do nothing without scrutiny and criticism, ever again. Hillary could get away with, well murder.
“Can’t we just drone the guy?” She said, not out of concern for the national interest , but her own very persona concern for her shabby ambitions.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:31 amIt’s at times like this I start wondering, again, how many lampposts DC has.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:37 am4 years of some plain speaking, vulgarity even, vs what my friend Carin said
“8 years. That will be 16 years under democrat rule. The first 8 have been bad enough. What will we look like after another 8 years? Health care will be single payer. Guns will be next to impossible to get (Chelsea admitted this when she went off script). All the alphabet soup government agencies will be even bigger. The IRS will continue to target it’s “enemies” and Clinton justice department will see no fault. Race relations are worse. The economic growth has now been weak for 8-straight years. Most of us contributors (not on the dole) to society are paying even MORE for healthcare.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:37 amHillary will do whatever she can in office to entrench Progressive power, and she may completely ruin any opposition party completely (as if it hasn’t been done well enough already.)”
“What a [sissy-boy]!”
The Boondock Saints, 1999
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:45 amIt’s not a sex crime, because he’s our idol. — The Trump Idolators
Even though it is a sex crime.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:51 amWhat’s a sex crime? Said the person who doesn’t think much of trump! but thinks less of someone more dangerous, not the least because powers will collude with her! and not Trump.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:54 amI blame the white line fevah!
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 8:56 amMr Hanna wrote:
They speak to Mr Trump’s ethics, to his attitude, to his arrogance. He’s a billionaire, so, damn it, he has a right to walk into a teenaged girls’ dressing room, and, natch, he gets away with it, because he gets away with everything!
Then, with the tape from eleven years ago, we see no change in attitude, do we?
The man is 70 years old, and he still hasn’t grown up. One of us wonders if the same could be said for most of the Trumpelstilskins.
The Catholic Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:00 am@21
No it isn’t a sex crime! He was just exercising his right as a transgendered individual to access the changing room that he most identifies with for his gender choice. This decision was already made this past summer and if you disagree, well then you are just a bigot. Don’t you get that this is yuuuge, because here before Catylin Jenner, we have evidence of an A-lister who came out to their own sexually identity. So it wasn’t made to be a publicity stunt. That means he was always winning.
Charles (34d600) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:01 amSarahW:
#NeverTrump
#NeverHillary
Quit lying about what I think when I have spelled it out clearly since prior to the Iowa Caucus. At this point, your accusation that I approve more of Hillary has to be a lie, because you’ve seen me repeatedly say I reject them both.
This was the most important Primary in over 150 years. Due to the Trump Idolators, it has become the least important General Election since Washington was unanimously selected.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:02 amOne would think, that as a practical matter, Mr Trump’s contests would actually have security guards to prevent other men from walking into the contestants’ dressing rooms. If he didn’t have them, he was negligent, and if he did, but was allowed through anyway, he knew that what he was doing was wrong, and simply didn’t care.
The practical Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:03 am@Dana:They speak to Mr Trump’s ethics, to his attitude, to his arrogance.
The worse he does in the general election, the more afraid of Hillary you should become, and the more willing to publicize her wrongdoing because the media will not do that.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:04 amAnd Mr. Wonderful, Cruz, is still supporting this scumbag?
Tillman (a95660) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:07 am@Tillman:And Mr. Wonderful, Cruz, is still supporting this scumbag?
In his defense, he was #1 on the list of candidates Hillary preferred to run against, and directed the media to “elevate”, while Trump only made #2.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:14 amYah, but you’re a traitor to this nation because you refuse to get on the TrumpWagon along with the rest of the crazies seeking a god!
Bill H (971e5f) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:15 amA platoon of marine recruits going through the chow hall line have to be served , eat, their dishes stacked, and back out on the grinder in formation in five minutes.
How do they do it?
Simple. the guide eats last. When the guide is done everyone is done, no matter what’s on your plate still.
papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:16 amAnd you better be dressed before Mr. Trump comes through.
papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:18 amThe terrible thing about the Trump candidacy is that it has prevented a necessary housecleaning. Even if Trump wins, whatever happens will be random and probably destructive. But most likely Hillary will win, and continue down the path of corruption.
And the tension, already at levels that suggest jailing members of the Obama administration, and perhaps Obama himself, will continue to increase. The media will cover them up as best it can, but it will be like Richard Nixon’s third term, and when the inevitable change happens, the recriminations will be terrible.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:19 amI don’t understand? What did he do that was so wrong?
Roman Polanski (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:19 amMr H wrote:
I should be hanged, drawn and quartered! I shall turn myself in forthwith!
The treasonous Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:21 amRemember guys- we just got through dumping a mayor for this sort of crap. A Democrat mayor.
Bill H (971e5f) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:23 amugh
too many snowflakes
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:24 amJohn Hitchcock, I have not accused you individually of anything
It’s a secret ballot, vote as you will.
But be warned. Trump is a bad choice, but there is a worse choice.
And there is no place else to go but not voting, or effectively voting for the worst, and more dangerous choice.
Trump can never have cover for his every selfish act or serious mistake. Hillary can get away with anything, including trampling on your right to speak.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:24 amThere goes a good girl…..
Bill H (971e5f) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:24 amYou ever herd cats?
papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:24 amMr Tillman wrote:
Rotten timing on Senator Cruz’s part, to have endorsed Mr Trump just a bit before the tapes came out.
I’m somewhat more sympathetic to Mr Cruz’s decision to endorse Mr Trump than was our esteemed host, because Mr Cruz had previously given his word that he’d support the Republican nominee. As hard as it was to do, he kept his word. Then this . . . .
The Dana with better timing (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:26 amAdj Dana is a boy.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:27 amThere are more than 2 candidates for President.
If there were only 2 candidates for President, there would still be the option of writing in a different name.
Thus, the “only two options” is also a lie that has been refuted for months now.
that’s not really Roman Polanski it’s a tricker
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:28 amSorry for that to both John and Dana. I can’t tell the players without a score card.
Bill H (971e5f) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:29 amMr Feet caught me:
Given that my blog hyperlink remained under the pseudonym, it’s not like I was really trying to fool anybody. But most people got the point.
The very deceptive Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:30 amneil postman called it ‘amusing our selves to death’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:33 amMr H wrote:
I’ve had to learn to live with it.
The scrapper Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:35 amLet he who has not sinned cast the first
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:35 amstoneballot.I wonder why that is,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834421/FBI-investigating-plane-crashed-Connecticut-high-street-killing-one-person-injuring-three-intentional.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:36 am@John Hitchcock:Thus, the “only two options” is also a lie that has been refuted for months now.
If you mean, how you vote, there are any number of options.
If you mean outcome of the election, there are only two that matter–Hillary gets at least 270 electoral votes or Hillary gets less than 270 electoral votes.
That is literally a binary outcome, because the options are mutually exclusive.
Vote how you want. Stay as pure as you want. Be better than the morally-compromised who would prefer to work toward the outcome “Hillary gets less than 270 electoral votes”.
The people chasing after every “look-what-Trump-said-or-did-over-a-decade-ago”story are working toward the “Hillary gets at least 270 electoral votes” outcome regardless of the purity of their motives, and are contributing to the media’s dominance of the electoral process.
They fool you when you look where they want you to look. They wanted you to look at Trump before the primary, because they thought it benefited them. They want you to keep looking now, because they think it benefits them.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:36 amhttps://truthbeforedishonor.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/the-bible-says-dont-judge-right/
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:38 amLet’sget totes real here…
“NOBEL PEACE PRIZE UPDATE: Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/246160/
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:38 amhah i knew it
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:38 amyes, but look squirrel.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/12/germany-syrian-bomb-suspect-had-security-check-last-year.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:39 amI said prior to the Iowa Caucus that I would never, ever vote for Donald Trump. I have not changed.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:40 amso it wasn’t out of shame,
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/international/2016/10/lawyers_for_paris_attacks_suspect_stop_defending_him
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:41 amTed Cruz dropped out in early May so Donald Trump has effectively been the nominee for more than 5 months. That means Trump has had 5 months to focus exclusively on how horrible Hillary will be for America (and she will be). And what has Trump done? He has focused on attacking Republicans, getting even for real and perceived slights, and responding ad nauseum to every criticism when he should be talking about Hillary.
Trump is a fool and a bully who deserves to lose, but unfortunately he won’t pay the price. We will.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:43 am@John Hitchcock:I said prior to the Iowa Caucus that I would never, ever vote for Donald Trump.
No one is asking you to. Can’t speak for others, but I am asking people to stop watching the Trump show and start paying attention to the real issues that Hillary and the media would rather you not examine.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:43 am@DRJ: He has focused on attacking Republicans, getting even for real and perceived slights, and responding ad nauseum to every criticism when he should be talking about Hillary.
And what we are doing here, is talking about How Bad Trump Is instead of talking about Hillary. That is our fault. And we will pay the price.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:44 amEveryone who voted Trump in the Primaries, every single dark soul, already guaranteed the US would pay a heavy price for this year’s General Elections. That ship has sailed.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:46 amYou have offended #ConstantSquirrel, Mr. Hanna
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:47 amas I say, I’m not surprised, they would think this way,
https://twitter.com/jcalvi/status/786203117134057472
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:47 amAnd anyone who criticizes Patterico for pointing out Trump’s flaws is encouraging Trump to continue his stupidity.
Trump is his own worst enemy. If he would have acted like a mature person, he might have weathered these stories. Instead, this shows Trump hasn’t matured at any point in his life. He’s still the entitled guy who thinks he is everyone’s target.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:47 amWhat’s funny is Mr. Trump is actually a very good person, whereas the pig’s truly execrable and steadfastly criminal.
People are getting it very twisted. It’s not enough just to have a moral compass you gotta use it.
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:48 amHitchcock will extract his pound of flesh, no matter the cost.
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:48 am@JohnHitchock:Everyone who voted Trump in the Primaries, every single dark soul,
Yeah, my hands are clean there.
That ship has sailed.
Then why are we still going on about it? Seems we’d rather work to apportion blame than work against what’s coming. I didn’t vote Trump in the primary, and I’ll welcome anyone who wants to stop Hillary getting 270+, Trump or no Trump.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:49 amGabriel,
Nice try but why should we stay on target when Trump clearly can’t? It’s Trump’s job to set the narrative and Hillary clearly isn’t his main concern. He focuses on hurting Republicans, not Hillary and the Democrats.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:52 am@DRJ:And anyone who criticizes Patterico for pointing out Trump’s flaws
Am I standing in front of the person you are addressing? Pardon me.
I criticized us all collectively for paying attention to the squirrel stories. I did not criticize Patterico for posting them. So you were not referring to me.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:52 am@DRJ:Nice try but why should we stay on target when Trump clearly can’t?
Wow. I have no response.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:55 amGabriel, I agree we will pay a heavy price with Hillary but that’s been obvious since Trump won. Maybe now you can see why we were so disappointed.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:55 amNo response? Ok, that’s par for the course in the comments since Trump won.
DRJ (15874d) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:57 amA man who walks into the dressing room of teenage girls does not meet my level of “very good person”.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:58 amI don’t care for trump, but my right disgust is against red queen, and bluntman or mcguffin aren’t going anywhere,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 9:58 am“Nice try but why should we stay on target when Trump clearly can’t?”
I… ah… I say strike that, your Honor, poorly phrased…
Colonel Haiku (f8bfb8) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:01 amhttps://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2016/10/11/wikileaks-exposes-workings-of-an-american-nomenklatura/
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:04 amAnd now we also know why he was so laissez faire about the North Carolina Peeping Toms in restrooms law. Does he shop at Target too, you think?
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:08 amit’s like animal farm where all the pigs are pigging it up together while poor little pikachus sit outside, clutching their shiny moral compasses, eyes glassy and shell-shocked with horror and despair
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:09 amDRJ wrote:
In the episode Mirror, Mirror, Mr Spock said of the ‘alternate universe’ crew that it was easier for Captain Kirk, as a civilized man, to act as a barbarian, than it was for his barbarian alter-ego to act as a civilized man.
A mature man has the capacity to act like a spoiled brat, but a spoiled brat simply doesn’t have the capacity to act like a mature man.
The Star Trek fan Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:19 amTrump is a fool and a bully who deserves to lose, but unfortunately he won’t pay the price. We will.
We will, for sure, but I have some hope that he will, too. The thought that went through the mind of EVERY Democrat when he said Hillary should be in jail was: “Your taxes had better be spotless.”
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:21 amMr Feet wrote:
I’m sorry, can you explain to me how sexual assault and breaking into the dressing rooms of teenaged girls makes Mr Trump a very good person? I’d really like to know!
The inquisitive Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:21 amA mature man has the capacity to act like a spoiled brat, but a spoiled brat simply doesn’t have the capacity to act like a mature man.
Just as it is is much easier for a knowledgeable person to act ignorant than an ignorant person to act knowledgeable.
(and several more of this sort)
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:24 amsexual assault and breaking into the dressing rooms of teenaged girls
number one this is hyperbole number two it’s not even true! – there’s no credible sourcing on anything what would prove there was any mischief what occurred
just silly desperate pig-sniffing propaganda sluts, trying to confuzzle people
I abjure it!
i stand with Mr. Trump cause he’d do the same for me and for you too
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:27 amthere’s no reason to vote for pervy roy cohn buttboy donald the trump
unless
you hate muslims
you hate mexicans
you hate hillary
you want the age of consent lowered to six (one for dogs)
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:30 amum hello taco bowl
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:35 amHF has been sent a powerful delusion, having rejected Truth, such that he is incapable of rejecting the lie.
John Hitchcock (d19b78) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:35 amI get that, and to a certain extent I agree. I don’t want Hillary to be President. But sticking with Trump is getting worse and worse every day. Just how terrible will it get in the future? At what point does one say that neither option is acceptable?
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:48 amMr. H i’m trying to lead my peoples to the promised land of Mr. Trump
together we can beat that pig I just know it
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:49 am@Chuck Bartowski:At what point does one say that neither option is acceptable?
Say it all you like. But when the electoral votes are counted, Hillary Clinton either will have 270 or more votes, or she will not have. It does not matter that both outcomes are unacceptable, one of the two will happen.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:51 amy’all should listen to Mr. Hanna while there’s still time
he is the gull what flies highest
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:53 am“! Everything! Every thing!! Everything on teevee and the news and the radio and the 21Cen media is a lie. It’s all lies! A relentless barrage of parasite attack vectors to enslave your mind. Decide on what you want to do, and do it. Ignore all distractions. Crush, evade, or overcome all obstacles. There is not a single person on God’s green Earth who knows more than you about what you should do and think. Make allies, make friends, form teams. Teams get things done. By yourself you accomplish nothing.”
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 10:55 amYou’re tacitly suggesting people vote for Hillary. You’ll retort that you’re not doing that at all. Yes, you are.
John (fa7cff) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:00 amLet he who has not sinned cast the first
stoneballot.Let he who at age 21 or higher hasn’t purposefully walked in on underage girls in various states of undress cast the first stone.
I would hope that line of stone-casters would be pretty damn long.
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:12 amTrump will be a rather neutered figure even if elected. Hillary is going to have power unbounded. She’s herself a bad person who makes terrible mistakes who and thinks of the office as being in charge of the law, which she is above.
She loses, or you do,so govern yourself accordingly.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:16 amTrump will be a rather neutered figure even if elected. Hillary is going to have power unbounded. She’s herself a bad person who makes terrible mistakes who and thinks of the office as being in charge of the law, which she is above.
That is, SarahW, the one argument that I think his supporters make that is completely 100% accurate. I can definitely get on-board with that line of reasoning.
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:26 am@35.I don’t understand? What did he do that was so wrong?/@44.that’s not really Roman Polanski it’s a tricker
Really? Pshaw.
“You’re a very nosy fellow, kitty cat. Huh? You know what happens to nosy fellows? Huh? No? Wanna guess? Huh? No? Okay. They lose their noses.” – Henchman [Roman Polanski] ‘Chinatown’ 1974
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:27 amWake the Eff Up, Hitchcock!
“WHEN RELIGIONS COLLIDE: Clinton campaign spokeswoman takes shots at Catholics, evangelicals in leaked email exchange.
Related: “To repeat, the head of Clinton’s campaign has been organizing to fracture a major religion. Clinton claims to be for all Americans… what if Podesta had created organizations to foment ‘Revolution’ among the American Muslim community? Would that be worthy of dismissal?… how much of his plans to fracture Catholics did Podesta share with Hillary as a campaign strategy? Does she agree with his strategy now?”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/246175/
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:39 amThou shalt have no other gods before Progressivism.”
I’m not denying that one of the two will happen. What I question is: at what cost? How far are we willing to abandon principle and decency to stop Hillay?
Right now, I’m looking at a pair of pigs, and the Trumpkins are trying to tell me that the other pig is so much worse than their pig. All I see are two pigs of different breeds. They’re both bad in different ways. And the Trump pig seems to get worse with each passing day.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:40 amWhat annoys me most about this election is that the people who put this gun against my head tell me my anger should be directed at the bullet.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:44 amJohn Hitchcock, every Presidential election inherently becomes the most important election because we continue to incrementally move down the wrong path. And after the next 4 years of illary, we’ll be farther down the wrong path.
Think about the 2008 election.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:51 amThat preceded Obamacare, ISIS filling a vaccuum, Russia’s aggression, the nuclear deal with Iran, the Syrian refugee crisis, China’s belligerence in the seas, and the emergence of Justin Bieber.
Imagine what the world might look like after 4 or 8 yrs of illary.
Imagine what the world might look like after another 4 or 8 yrs of Bieber!
Amen, Kevin M.
So, here’s another question for all the Trump supporters: how do I justify voting for a man who walked into the dressing room of teenaged girls?
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:54 amThen it’s incumbent upon decided-to-be-not-Trump to assert its will on HRC-elect, even to the point of Jacob Marley-like techniques. Maybe she will just drop dead. Or be so spooked she does a 145-165 turn on most things. Don’t give up that seat to the Berniebots.
urbanleftbehind (58aaa7) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:55 amChuck Bartowski, unfortunately, Trump is the nominee.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/12/2016 @ 11:57 amBut if we “do nothing” —to greatly paraphrase the famous words of Edmund Burke—then illary’s principles will rule the next 4 yrs.
Our country allied with Stalin to defeat Hitler. But that never meant that we became Commies.
Likewise, we can ally with Trump for 4 yrs to defeat illary. But that won’t mean that the GOP will forever be the party of Trump.
Just think of it as a temporary alliance.
So, side with a sex criminal in order to beat Hillary?
What would Trump have to do to make you not vote for Trump? If the only thing he could do is drop the (R) after his name, then I’d say we’ve lost all our principles.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:01 pmJohn wrote:
No, I have specifically said that I am voting for Gary Johnson, and have urged other people to do the same. Voting for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is like walking through [insert slang term for feces here]; some of it sticks to your shoes.
Make no mistake about it: Hillary Clinton has won this election, already won, and me soiling myself by voting for Donald Trump, especially in a solidly blue state, won’t make one f(ornicating) bit of difference, so I might as well cast a ballot that I can cast and still retain a clear conscience.
I have voted for every Republican presidential candidate since 1980, some enthusiastically, and some not so, even when I knew that that candidate was going to lose. When someone like me can’t stomach the Republican nominee, you know that he’s bad.
The very definitive Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:05 pmThey’re purposely not reporting all the wonderful super-sweet things Mr. Trump’s done over the years cause of they’re so bias
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:07 pmThey’re purposely not reporting all the wonderful super-sweet things Mr. Trump’s done over the years cause of they’re so bias
Like the dozens and dozens of times that he didn’t walk in on underaged girls in various states of undress?
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:10 pmoh ha ha that was so funny i forgot to laugh
happyfeet (a037ad) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:11 pm> We will, for sure, but I have some hope that he will, too. The thought that went through the mind of EVERY Democrat when he said Hillary should be in jail was: “Your taxes had better be spotless.”
I really, really hope that doesn’t come to pass. A world in which losing political opponents are subject to abuse by the bureaucracy is a world in which free elections are no longer happening.
aphrael (3f0569) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:12 pmAphrael, that’s already been happening. Witness the IRS investigations of conservative groups that have taken place since Obama took office.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:15 pm109… my God, in which universe have you been living?!?!
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:22 pmJohn Hitchcock, every Presidential election inherently becomes the most important election because we continue to incrementally move down the wrong path. And after the next 4 years of illary, we’ll be farther down the wrong path.
CS, you you actually believe that a good path is offered here? To most of us it looks like a choice of dooms.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:36 pmAnother display of moral laxity when he was a registered Democrat (until 2009).
T Moeller (2564af) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:37 pmWith regard to Mrs. Clinton and her “vintage” moral lapses… they are not old news. They are continuing saga.
Just think of it as a temporary alliance.
Because Stalinism went away so quickly and so easily, and without any danger whatsoever?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:42 pm“The moderator will gang up with the Democrat to attack the Republican. Even mild Mitt Romney got the business from that fat woman on CNN. But, friends told me Trump was beating the old bag up, so I tuned in just in time to see him put the saddle on the fat cow and ride her around the debate stage. I did not watch a lot of it, but it was fun seeing the good guys win.”
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:43 pm“As they toil for their ancient Clinton foes, they think, like many French World War II collaborators with the Nazis,
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:46 pmthat they are saving the integrity of their cause — in this case, thoughtful conservatism.
They bewail the acceptance of Trump by other, allegedly less principled conservatives. They have read themselves into oblivion. Because Norman Podhoretz and Irving Kristol came quickly and cogently from the soft left to the Reagan right, where they were graciously received, and blended well with the such traditional conservatives as Bill Buckley and even such paleoconservatives as Pat Buchanan, they earned some of the stardom of the great Reagan victories. Whichever party wins this election, the heirs of the Reagan intellectual Right who have noisily endorsed Hillary as the lesser of evils will be wearing sackcloth and ashes and speaking inaudibly in the wilderness for a long time. To the Democrats, they are useful idiots; to the Republicans, they are deserters in battle, turncoats.”
It grieves me to say this, but I agree with that last sentiment.
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:48 pmA world in which losing political opponents are subject to abuse by the bureaucracy
Go talk to Dinesh D’Souza.
Or Steve Kubby, the 1996 LP candidate for CA governor and author of CA’s 1996 medical marijuana initiative, who was prosecuted for marijuana posession after the election by the losing GOP nominee (and state AG) Don Lungren. Kubby, a cancer patient, fled to Canada.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:51 pm#114 Kevin M,
Really, dude?
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/12/2016 @ 12:59 pmThe point is that compromising our principles by allying with Stalin in order to defeat Hitler didn’t make us Commies, just as compromising our principles by allying with Trump in order to defeat illary won’t make us whatever Trump is, nor will it make the GOP the party of Trump.
the senior podhoretz, always had a more solid perspective, sometimes dowerful, he wrote lamentations in 1990, at the peak of the first (named) intifadeh, seeing the shadows of what became bds, he supported the huntress in 2008, when many including the podlet jumped ship,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:05 pmTrump is a braggart, rude, boorish, and likes women so much as to engage inappropriate speech and behavior. And so we Pharisees judge him morally inferior. Good luck with that in The End.
Trump is a hand grenade being sent to destroy the corrupt DC establishment and change the unacceptable status quo scheduled to trend far worse if Hillary Clinton would be elected.
Get your heads on straight. Buck up and remember WHY.
Robert M. (602276) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:07 pmthe canadian menace rears it’s head,
https://twitter.com/CifJamestown/status/785970234121265152
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:09 pm“a contingent of Trump supporters has argued that Trump’s “grab them by the p***y” comments were mere braggadocio, and that we don’t know Trump actually did that.”
That was my contention.
Since them I’ve found articles claiming DJT is being sued for a child rape (see, e.g., http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/)
Also other accusers: google “trump assault lawsuit”.
These sound much more serious than this Teen USA dressing room thing. Have you guys seen it?
gp (0c542c) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:29 pmright, is this your card.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow
riding with zaphod, puts you in strange places,
http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/10/12/obama-ridicules-christians-say-forgive-trump/
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:38 pmaphrael,
I think Trump was absolutely correct about Clinton being in jail,
not at all because of vindictiveness by Trump,
but because the corruption and protection of the Obama administration would not be in charge.
As said above, between the IRS and the Walker witch hunt in WI,
MD in Philly (735443) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:38 pmpolitical vindictiveness by the Dems has been in force at least 5 years.
if we goes back to newt, about 16 years. that romney repeated when he cited brian williams, in his 2012 primary, since then the huntress, delay, o’donnell, walker, perry, paxton, most of these coordinated by texans for public justice,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:43 pm“I think Trump was absolutely correct about Clinton being in jail” Prison, heck. I’d be satisfied if she only lost her security clearances for life. How can she keep them after her bad deeds?
gp (0c542c) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:46 pmAnd the specious ethics charges that Alaska Dems filed against then-Gov. Sarah Palin, knowing that there was no legislation in Alaska that allowed a public official to recoup the money spent fighting those charges. Dems are experts in using the bureaucracy and various third-party players to do their political bidding when they can’t win elections.
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:51 pmnarciso’s Guardian link says the child rape story was concocted by a known provocateur, so please disregard it I guess.
gp (0c542c) — 10/12/2016 @ 1:52 pmMr Supporter wrote:
No, we didn’t become commies, because we weren’t stuck under the Soviet Union. The people of Eastern Europe? It didn’t turn out so well for them.
If we ally ourselves with Donald Trump, and he wins, we will be living under his Administration. It (probably) wouldn’t be as bad as under Mrs Clinton, but there’s something valuable about honor and decency.
Diogenes would not find the man for whom he looked in this election.
The historian Dana (f6a568) — 10/12/2016 @ 2:01 pm“Walked in” , “said on a show”. Wow now there is a pervert on the scale of bill clinton and anthony weiner.
Aram Hagopian (0f363a) — 10/12/2016 @ 2:09 pmDid he lose a fortune or didn’t he? IS this campaign costing him a fortune personally or isn’t it?
Self made man. Everyone’s cheap shot target for decades.
papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/12/2016 @ 2:31 pmAce of Spades continues to disappoint with his constant ‘it was just talk you whiners’ refrain, over and over again, as though Ace were psychic both into what Trump did and into the hearts of his critics (apparently very evil people).
Trump is one of those people who didn’t hear ‘no’ enough growing up, and has no restraint and a distorted, perverted impulse. You can see it in how he ditches his wives as they age, how he embraces his daughter and talks about her body, and of course his zeal for strip clubs run by human traffickers, bragging about sexual encounters in magazines, and this new stuff about creeping on naked kids.
He won’t be our president, but it’s to the GOP’s eternal shame that he had a shot.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:12 pmThe comparison to Bill Clinton is worthwhile. Look at what we know Bill did: he preyed on his young, powerless intern for sex while he was married. We know Trump did this. The worst accusations against Clinton have also been made of Trump. Trump’s boasting is much worse than Clinton’s. If Trump were still a democrat his defenders would be saying he was worse than Clinton, but to many GOP partisans, nothing can be worse than Bill Clinton (which is hilariously stupid).
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:14 pmSelf made man.
Ah yes, the self-made man who inherited a burgeoning real estate empire from his father, just as NY real estate was taking off.
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:16 pmYou’ve got to give pedophiles credit. They drive slowly in school zones.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:26 pmTMZ is reporting that NBC deliberately sat on the “pussy” video for months. No side in this election is particularly honorable. Above and beyond all else, time and a judicial imprimatur cannot change the fact that Hillary Clinton avidly supports the mass murder of millions of unborn children even after the embryonic stage. I hate saying stuff like that because it’s so incredible and so negative, but it remains tragically and amazingly true.
Andrew (207d6f) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:31 pmJVW – what do you have to show for your inheritance?
Either the guy is too stupid to make money.
Or he inherited ~$15M or was loaned and turned it into billions and then lost it. Regained it.
Let me know when I can vote for you.
At the end of the day: You can vote for who you wish. But if it ain’t Trump, then you can’t escape being asked to support the results of the Hillary admin.
Forget Stein, Johnson & Egg McMuffin. None have a chance of winning.
It amazes me that people think Trump has no depth and yet Gary “What is Aleppo” – “can’t name a single foreign leader” – and yet, people think this guy’s got the intelligence to lead. Amazing.
Steve_in_SoCal (58e1f9) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:38 pmDustin, flatly, rape is worse. Bill Clinton is worse.
SarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:42 pmSarahW,
I agree that raping women is a worse sexual assault than the ones Trump bragged about, and worse than walking in on underaged ladies. But Trump was also accused of rape on at least two occasions.
How do you know that Bill Clinton committed rape and Donald Trump did not?
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:47 pmAlso, bear in mind I didn’t offer a defense of Bill Clinton and think he’s a sexual predator (who isn’t on the ballot this year). Pointing out that Trump is similar to Bill Clinton when it comes to many of Bill’s more established offenses, and equal or worse to Clinton in other areas, only sets the bar very very low.
Bill Clinton is not automatically worse than Trump just because.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:49 pmSarahW (3164f0) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:42 pm
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:47 pm
Actions speak louder than words.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:50 pmOh doesn’t this put the complaints about Cruz’s geeky manner in perspective? He would be scandalized too right now, but he would have just crushed Hillary in two debates.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:51 pmBoth Bill and Trump’s actions show they are men who broke their most sacred vows and have no self discipline. They wouldn’t keep their word to anyone, least of all voters. Hillary wouldn’t either, of course. But they say the GOP has to be twice as clean to break even, and usually I think the GOP is up to that meager task. This time they really let this country down.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:53 pmnk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:26 pm
I do not find this funny.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:58 pmI completely agree, Dustin.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 3:59 pmIf you think you can educate Dustin, you are severely mistaken.
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:00 pmEmails from the Clinton campaign that disparage one of the world’s major religions and Christian evangelicals and just look what brings the outrage.
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:04 pmOedipus loved his mother?
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:06 pmYou are a good man, Colonel. I was mistaken about you in the past because you proved me wrong, and I still stand corrected. Let’s extend that to others- what can we lose? Our pride?
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:08 pmnk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:06 pm
You can love your mother, but you should not “love” your mother.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:09 pmSurely you know that there are plenty of us who are outraged at both, right?
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:10 pmHitler was not all bad. After all, he did kill Hitler.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:13 pmit would actually be a thread topic, if it were, but red queen seems to be sympathetic to only one faith,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:14 pmPoint taken, Felipe, but I draw the line at people who routinely mischaracterize the positions taken by others, malign the motivation of others and who wouldn’t recognize true evil if they tripped over it.
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:15 pmad hitlerum, is so unoriginal, greg stilson, deutcher, (referenced in the review about the book about time travel) and aaron mccomb,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:16 pmChuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:10 pm
I freely admit that I know not your mind, but:
We Christians have been literally fed to the lions. Our elders, the Jews have seen far worse. Grow a pair.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:16 pmI’ll have to re-read the thread, Chuck. You sure as Hell won’t hear or read about it in the Democrats-with-bylines media.
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:17 pmColonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:15 pm
Yes, I would, too.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:18 pmthey should just call it the ministry of love,
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/12/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:19 pmColonel Haiku, Team illary desperately wanted to change the national conversation away from illary’s illness, as well as her disastrous record as Secretary of State. She doesn’t want people talking about Iran, Syria, Libya, Russia, or China. Or ISIS. Or the failing economy. Or the pipeline. Or coal. Or “open borders.” Or Obamacare.
She wants America to focus on sex talk and she has succeeded.
Sadly, America will get screwed, as a result.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:22 pmHeh, narciso. Dept. of information retrieval, they are not.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:22 pmBy all means be upset about Hillary’s scandals. There are plenty and many of them are very bad. But this sarcastic eye rolling that anyone would be upset about Trump is either dishonest or sociopathic. The GOP would have been better off nominating Hillary and might as well have.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:24 pmCruz supporter, it’s not Hillary who made this election about Trump. It’s TRUMP and his voters who did that. You think Hillary’s desperate right now? HAHAHAHAHAHA She’s the exact opposite of desperate right now.
It is really unfortunate that we’re talking about sex scandals again in a world full of issues that will get people killed, but what do you think the GOP establishment intended to do when it refused to line up behind the most conservative guy who can win?
As I said in a different thread today, the GOP would rather crash itself into a wall than be run by an actual reformer. It is an essential part of the democrat party, and without the GOP I doubt we’d be anywhere near in the kind of trouble we’re in right now as a nation. Those who dissent to the power grabs of Trump and Hillary are foolish to expect anything from the GOP, the party that gave us this sleazy bastard for a nominee.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:27 pmstinkypig is so diseased and drugged out of her depraved pig head her desperation synapses can’t even fire anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:31 pmmeanwhile bow-chik-a-bow-bow-bama’s shoving his turgid penis all up in the faces of the propaganda sluts
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:33 pmDustin, I think the GOP would have been better off nominating Cruz. But “the people” love to reject what may be good for them – consider the prophets. Hell, consider faith.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:34 pmhappyfeet, that’s the Hillary that Trump’s fans told America to expect on the debate floor, and that’s just not what they saw. The talking s#$% tactic works in Junior High, but setting expectations low for your debate opponent is counter productive. Hillary is a moron, and she’s probably not even Trump’s equal mentally (which is saying very little), but she’s not this walker-bound invalid that Trump’s fans say she is. She doesn’t address the press or campaign much because she doesn’t care about us, simple as that. She’s the most apathetic candidate I’ve ever seen make it this far, and she had to (not literally, but effectively) rig the democrat and republican primary to make it happen. She doesn’t need to put anything into her campaign personally when she has a press and Trump making her case for her.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:35 pmIf you are so desiring of beating a Democrat at the polls that you must elect a guy who’d barge into the dressing room of teenaged girls just because he’s a Republican, then I’d say you’ve lost your soul.
I’ll ask the question again: what would Trump have to do in order for you to not vote for him? (I’m not saying that you’d vote for Hillary, just that you’d vote for someone else.) If the only reason you’re voting for Trump then your partisanship has overridden your principles.
I’m outraged at Hillary, and continue to be. But I’m also outraged at Trump, to the point where I don’t see how my conscience could allow me to vote for him.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:35 pm“WHY ARE DEMOCRATS’ RALLIES SO VIOLENT AND INTOLERANT: Clinton campaign losing patience with Bill ‘rape’ protesters: Bill Clinton “rape” protesters were pushed and shoved during two Florida rallies on Tuesday.
Related: Bill Clinton ‘Rape’ Hecklers Interrupt Obama, Hillary After Infowars Offer. This Alinsky stuff is a two-edged sword.”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/246204/
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:35 pmoh no that’s not even true the pig had to be fed all the questions ahead of time and take like 9 days off to train her pig brain to regurgitate what her handlers told her to say
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:36 pmYeah, we need to take medicine that most people don’t use in their personal lives. Think of your kids and their kids and stop spending money you don’t have right now. Balance the budget. Mind your own business and get out of the way of others. It’s not a ‘problem’ when someone else succeeds or thinks something you don’t agree with.
It’s going to be hard to convince a majority of Americans that government shouldn’t coddle us and shower us with spending we just put on the national credit card, but Cruz was the only candidate up to that kind of persuasion. Few other politicians even wanted to try. They were just different flavors of pander.
But somehow Cruz almost made it, and the GOP saw that and lined up behind Trump to stop the thing they were scared of. Yeah, the democrats are worse politically, but strategically, they are just the expression of the left, while the GOP is thwarting the right. Checkers players see the democrats as the problem, and chess players realize it’s the GOP that needs to change or be replaced.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:38 pmhttps://pajamasmed.hs.llnwd.net/e12/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/iowahawk_skin_suit_5-28-16-1.jpg
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:39 pmChuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:35 pm
Mr. Bartowski, I am an Independent. The damage Hillary will do is not an abstract proposition. I must put my vote where it will do the most damage to her bid for the presidency.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:39 pmDustin, @ 4:35 pm, exactly. They both went into the debate with low expectations and the one that failed miserably, giving Hillary a comparative boost, were the Trump allegations about her frailty. She looked perfectly healthy and energetic. Thank you, Katrina.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:40 pmDustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:38 pm
I vote for “replace.”
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:41 pmnk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:40 pm
I’m telling you, nk, that she was doing the “rope a dope!”
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:43 pmthat’s because you have a well-defined sense of moral clarity Mr. felipe
there’s a lot of people what are just kind of snobby and rather too self-regarding, concerned far more with how they co-brand with politicians socially than with the consequences of their choices (because in most cases they fancy themselves immuneto these consequences)
they can’t tell the difference between an evil criminal pig and someone who at worst is guilty of being either tacky or outre on the odd occasion
it’s a skill you learn when you care about what happens to people other than you and yours
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:44 pmAli kept his title with that as I recall. What was that toothless kid’s name.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:45 pmhttp://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad81/rdbrewer/Mobile%20Uploads/E0A646CD-3FCB-4D12-8CAE-2DD6999CF97A_zps9elcne75.jpg
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:45 pm*immune to* these consequences i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:45 pmIf we ally ourselves with Donald Trump, and he wins, we will be living under his Administration. It (probably) wouldn’t be as bad as under Mrs Clinton, but there’s something valuable about honor and decency.
Honor and decency?
So JR’s a horndog.
His running mate’s a corndog.
And Maudie’s the Wiki-Witch of the West.
Christ Almighty, Jefferson banged his slaves. Put your big boy pants on. We’re electing a president, not a pope.
“Helping the little lady along are you, my fine gentlemen?” – Wicked Witch of the West [Margaret Hamilton] ‘Wizard of Oz’, 1939
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:47 pmNew story up at NYT: two new accusers, one was vigorously groped on a plane, another was kissed on the mouth unwelcomely.
gp (0c542c) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:47 pmnk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:45 pm
You recall correctly. Forget the loser, he’s a memory.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:48 pmhere’s a nifty video of barack obama air-schlonging some propaganda sluts in their faces with his erect socialist penis
[NSFW]
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:48 pmAND MORE!
Colonel Haiku (5ee08b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:49 pmHe Plotted ‘Catholic Spring’ With Left-Wing Activists…
Infilitrate Church…
‘NEEDY LATINOS’ LIST…
Hacks Expose Journalists In Clinton’s Corner…
WASH POST bureau chief protected Podesta…
Clinton Staffers Discussed Which Emails To Release…
And Which to DELETE!
Brazile had EXACT WORDING of proposed town hall question before CNN?
Dems planned to fool Sanders supporters at convention…
‘His people will think they’ve won something’…
‘Bitching’ Bernie Voters…
Biden Aide Sabotaged His Presidential Aspirations?
Emails Reveal MORE Collusion Between State And Clinton Campaign…
TRUMP: Hillary Wants World Government; Unlimited immigration; Rule by corporations…
The only thing we really have left is maintaining a majority in the House. The polls do not tell the full story of the ass kicking the GOP is about to get. Trump’s operation is pathetic compared to Hillary’s by a factor of like 25 when you look at field offices. Then add in the data advantage from ties to Google vs the GOP’s half baked but very expensive consultants (project orca, lol). Then add in that before election day every celebrity will make convincing appeals about how scary Trump is, and most reasonable people will nod their heads at much of it. The Democrats will get the vote out better than they ever thought they could with a candidate as crappy as Hillary, while the republican candidates across the country consider condemning the GOP candidate.
It’s going to be a landslide. And if the GOP loses the house, which seems far fetched, but isn’t, then Hillary will be able to try everything her people come up with to ‘build a legacy’. Hopefully the GOP clings to power and then isn’t pathetic about how they use it.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:49 pmit’s hard for paul ryan to cling cause of all the oil daddy romney likes him to slather all over his hawt abs
makes it hard for him to really grip anything for reals
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:52 pmHopefully the GOP clings to power and then isn’t pathetic about how they use it.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:49 pm
Sigh. This is exactly what the GOP do best, except for the “isn’t pathetic” part.
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 4:54 pmlol sleazy warren buffett just underbused wells fargo ceo john stumpf like he was every bit as nasty nasty as billy boo boo
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:02 pmThe last time team republican controlled the house, senate and the presidency they spent like drunk democrats. Bush and congress really had an opportunity to set us up energy wise and failed.
mg (31009b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:05 pmouch you just did a truth bomb
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:07 pmi’m a have to move up my manipedi
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:07 pmJVW – what do you have to show for your inheritance?
Uh, fella, my dad didn’t set me up in a job immediately after I had loafed my way through college, and I haven’t inherited anything from my parents, mostly because they are happily still alive. What the hell are you prattling on about?
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:09 pmCrimaleins sexually assault 70,000 American women and Paul Ryan is worried about his position in the uni-party.
mg (31009b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:20 pmIf a good pot party with hookers is not your priority, you have an alternative to The Johnson. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/meet-evan-mcmullin-ex-cia-operative-taking-trump-votes-utah-n665151 He is on the ballot in 11 states and a registered write-in in 23 more (these days you have to register as a write-in for your votes to be counted).
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:35 pmit’s been alleged that Mr. Trump accidentally walked into a room once without knocking and undergarmented females hastened to dive into their burkas, lest they be seen and, possibly, desired
Pigstank 2016! (plus also piggy piggy timmy)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:38 pmcan i get a hallelujah can i get an amen
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:39 pm… after I had loafed my way through college…
JVW (6e49ce) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:09 pm
This reminds me of an episode of my own life, where (when) my father had brought me (against my own selfish will) to an “event” of some sort, to (in my vain mind) show me off as some sort of dancing monkey. I was asked by some one in attendance, “what do you do?” I answered, “I loaf.”
The questioner set me straight, in a most severe manner that, “no, you cannot dress like that, and loaf!” Our parents do not raise “loafers.” To accuse ourselves of “loafing,” is, in the eyes of those who love (or at least respect) our parents is a display of grave disrespect.
You stand corrected JVW!
felipe (023cc9) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:42 pmwest virginia baby i don’t care
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:43 pmMcMullin is a registered write-in in Cook County.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:44 pmthat and something over five dollars will get him a relatively serviceable latte at the starbucks on the corner of grand and wabash, but he gonna wait for it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:48 pmthat’s in that jappy building with the hole in it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:49 pmIs turgid pronounced with a gee sound or a jay.
Turjid “J” as in Jif. or turgid “G” as in good?
papertiger (82d7e8) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:55 pmi think “j” but yeah it’s a reading word
haven’t said it at the office yet
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:57 pmstarbucks coffee is burnt.
mg (31009b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:58 pmit’s burning for social justice
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 5:58 pmSo are Johnson’s supporters.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:04 pmwho needs support for his johnson is barack obama
it’s just waggling hither and yither
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:06 pmmuch to former us army general colin powell’s delight
happyfeet (28a91b) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:08 pmnow mind you, this is perhaps tweety#, at his most human
http://www.mediaite.com/online/remembering-the-time-chris-matthews-ogled-melania-trumps-runway-walk-i-could-watch-that/
# A friends nic for matthews,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:10 pmWhether it’s the Russians or not, it surely makes for some interesting reading… http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-dumps-more-john-podesta-emails/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:13 pmWhy, I bet Matthews got a tingle in his cloaca, narciso.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:15 pmsomething like that, coronello, recall it was the hack of that english sky dragon temple, that revealed ‘the hide the decline’
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2016 @ 6:17 pmMy daughter was a contestant in Miss NJ. Nobody went near dressing rooms. Parents are present.
DennisDee (d9af27) — 10/12/2016 @ 7:48 pm15?! What’s the big deal? Nowadays any old pervert can walk into a restroom with a 6 yr. old in it alone. No problem.
ocean (38f70a) — 10/13/2016 @ 10:40 pmocean, you may wish to recall that Trump opposed the North Carolina law that made it illegal for any old pervert to walk into a restroom with a six-year old in it alone. Opposed. As is in he did not want North Carolina to make that kind of thing illegal. And now we know why.
nk (dbc370) — 10/14/2016 @ 4:46 am