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My other post this morning, about philosophy and Zeno’s paradox, was certain to be ignored by people who wanted to talk about Trump. So: Trump.

Patterico (bcf524) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:29 am

yes yes

now more than ever

happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:31 am

Noonan:

The signature sentence of this election begins with the words “In a country of 320 million . . .” I hear it everywhere. It ends with “how’d it come down to these two?” or “why’d we get them?”

Another sentence is a now a common greeting among Republicans who haven’t seen each other in a while: “What are we gonna do?”

The most arresting sentence of the week came from a sophisticated Manhattan man friendly with all sides. I asked if he knows what he’ll do in November. “I know exactly,” he said with some spirit. “I will be one of the 40 million who will deny, the day after the election, that they voted for him. But I will.”

A high elected official, a Republican, got a faraway look when I asked what he thought was going to happen. “This is the unpollable election,” he said. People don’t want to tell you who they’re for. A lot aren’t sure. A lot don’t want to be pressed.

DNF (ffe548) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:33 am

He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years, gave an employee cancer and beat his dog.

AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:55 am

Never!

nk (dbc370) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:59 am

The police are there to preserve disorder.

Ingot (48ef13) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:06 am

Expectations:

Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon described Clinton’s approach in seeing the debate stage as a “proving ground.” Chief Strategist Joel Benenson echoed Fallon by declaring of Trump, “I don’t think he can go toe to toe with her,” and speculated Clinton “will come out on top.” Not to be outdone, Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell said she held her own on many occasions in 2008 against Obama, who he called “probably the greatest debater in public speaking, in politics, in our lifetime.”

RE: The Left’s idea of a great debater, take Joe Biden. In rebuttal against Palin he simply repeated the same lie, word for word, on which he’d been challenged.

Against Ryan he simply laughed like a half-wit.

Hill has no finesse, only eye-scratching and throat-clawing.

DNF (ffe548) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:12 am

I don’t expect Trump to crush the old BattleAxe but I expect him to be well-drilled.

Newt would have been the dream debater, Cruz excellent in secular subjects, like the Law. But Trump will not be judged as critically as even Johnson would be as a former Governor.

DNF (ffe548) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:21 am

the more people see of the diseased stinkypig the more they wanna take a shower

happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:25 am

It ends with “how’d it come down to these two?” or “why’d we get them?”

Felt the same way 8 years ago, as an outsider, watching US election coverage in the UK.

“A busted old warhorse versus an anti-corporate left-academic dilettante, legislative non-entity? Oh yeah, and their Veeps are a catch, too. This is it? These are the prospective leaders of the free world?”

JP (f1742c) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:26 am

The leader America needs, if doesn’t deserve.

Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:31 am

Hypothesis- #nevertrump is more vocal than #neverhillary, Andrew Stein:

I have been steeped in the Democratic Party all my life. My father, Jerry, was a New York City Democratic chairman and power broker, and I grew up in and around the Democratic Party. When I was a young man, former senators and Democratic presidential and vice-presidential nominees Herbert Humphrey and Estes Kefauver stayed at my apartment and we would proudly discuss the great traditions of the Democratic Party.

My father was a pallbearer at St. Patrick’s for Bobby Kennedy’s funeral. When I was young, Robert F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy were (and remain) my political heroes. Four years ago, former New York Gov. and liberal lion Mario Cuomo spoke at my father’s funeral. I think his son, current Gov. Andrew Cuomo, is a very effective leader.

I was elected five times to the New York state Assembly as a Democrat. In 1977, I beat David Dinkins and Robert Wagner Jr. in the election for borough president of Manhattan, and then was elected twice as City Council president.

With this background it is very hard for me not to support the Democratic nominee for president this year. But I believe my party has become the party of the elites and moneyed class and has deserted its historic mission as the party of the working class and disadvantaged.

Given my level of discomfort with the current leftist orientation of the Democratic Party, I am now supporting Republican nominee Donald Trump for president. I urge my fellow Democrats to vote for Mr. Trump.

I have known him since the early 1970s and have seen his deep concern for people, and how effective he has been while working on behalf of the average citizen.

Donald Trump is no racist. On the contrary, he offers the best hope for rebuilding our inner cities and creating better education and jobs for those trapped in poverty and lacking hope. When a hurricane devastated Puerto Rico in 1984, I asked Mr. Trump to provide a 727 airliner to bring critical supplies to the island. He did so and without publicity. I asked him to rebuild the Wollman Skating Rink in Central Park because the city couldn’t complete it in 10 years. Mr. Trump did it in under six months and under budget.

While he has made some controversial and provocative statements, I strongly believe he will bring needed change and vitality to our nation and shake up our political system, which is in a state of crisis. He is for strong pro-growth policies like reducing the marginal and corporate tax rates and eliminating thousands of job-killing and business-stifling regulations, the biggest of which is ObamaCare.

Mr. Trump is also for rebuilding the military, which has been decimated by Obama’s dangerous cuts and sequestration. He is a strong supporter of Israel and will not abandon our allies in the Mideast and around the world. Unlike Hillary Clinton, he will not allow tens of thousands of immigrants who cannot be vetted properly to come to the U.S.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is the personification of the establishment and status quo. She voted for the war in Iraq and supported the Iran nuclear deal, two of the worst, and most-dangerous, mistakes in American foreign policy during my lifetime.

Everywhere in the world America’s position is far worse now thanks in large measure to her actions as secretary of state. The whole saga of her private unsecure emails and server and the appearance of massive pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation are also profoundly troubling.

Her domestic record is as bad as her international one. When Mrs. Clinton was elected to the Senate, she promised to create 200,000 new jobs in upstate New York. When she left office in January 2009, the region had a net loss of 8,000 jobs. Now she promises to create 10 million new jobs in the nation. Why should we believe that she will do that, based on her failed record in New York state?

Sometimes a break with your own party is compelled by events. This is not to say it is an easy decision politically or personally. It can be wrenching. In 1973 I was appointed by Gov. Nelson Rockefeller to be chairman of a commission to investigate patient abuse and massive Medicaid fraud in the New York state nursing-home industry—which was extensively covered by the press. The nursing homeowners were protected by the Democratic leadership in the state Assembly. I had to fight those leaders in my own party to get the needed reforms passed.

As President Kennedy once said to his trusted speechwriter and confidante Arthur Schlesinger Jr., “Sometimes party loyalty asks too much.” This is the case in this election. I believe Donald Trump will make a great president and I ask my fellow Democrats to vote for him. The future of the nation may very well depend on it.

Proof, if any were needed, that Trump is a stealth Democrat!!!!!

DNF (ffe548) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:43 am

The leader America needs, if doesn’t deserve.

Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:31 am

That’s amazingly close to how Hitler viewed himself.

Bill H (971e5f) — 9/23/2016 @ 8:56 am

We will be told by the Professional Media that Mrs Clinton won the debate, while the public will say that Mr Trump won. Why? Even at their most objective — Hah! — the media will score it on debating points. Trouble is, the debates are not contests over debating points, but contests of charisma. Mr Trump has it in spades, and Mrs Clinton has none.

The realistic Dana (f6a568) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:43 am

11) surprisingly I don’t agree on the latter point, the solon is the idiot, painted as wise, as he was a poor steward of the arra, the lead vizier in afghanistan and iraq, counselor to alinsky’s sorcerer’s apprentice,

narciso (d1f714) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:48 am

Proof, if any were needed, that Trump is a stealth Democrat!!!!!

That doesn’t prove a damn thing! ! ! ! ! Trump is a “stealth” nothing, he’s always been a democrat he just switched parties to run. The question is this: Is trump a stealth liberal? The answer is NO! ! ! ! He’s more liberal than I but so is everybody. In the dictionary under the word “Conservative” should be my picture.

Penn Hospital patched up my collapsed lung and sent me home. I feel better than I have in months. I’m still an active on the transplant list and since my emphysema is exacerbating my condition it has become more urgent and therefore moves me up the recipient ladder. Hopefully soon. For any of you who threw a prayer my way I say Thanks. I nee all I can get.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:59 am

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/23/chaffetz-doj-gave-cheryl-mills-immunity-e-mail-case/

This is really testing my #NeverTrump mettle. James Comey is trash. The dirtiest of the dirty in law enforcement. If Trump goes public and swears he will take that pig down, it will be difficult to take a flyer on the lesser of two evils.

Matador (5c0578) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:03 am

to not take a flyer

Matador (5c0578) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:03 am

You sound better, Hoagie, and I know everyone here joins me in saying we are glad you feel better.

DRJ (15874d) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:06 am

Glad to hear you’re feeling better, Hoagie. We’ll keep our fingers crossed re: the recipient ladder.

Leviticus (efada1) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:06 am

yes yes

now more than ever

happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/23/2016 @ 7:31 am

YES YES!

we need OUR liberal democrat!

he will make america great again by doing ALL the liberal things

he will raise taxes!

he will ban imports!

he will ban private gun sales!

he will ban “terrorists” (aka americans on a secret list) from getting guns!

he will ban assault weapons!

he will increase regulations!

he will fight more wars!

he will pick liberals for SCOTUS!

he will restrict free speech!

he will reduce search and seizure protections!

he will be the next Obama!

it’ll be great!!

sadfeet (e04f50) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:08 am

Paul Krgman claims Trump lies more, or tells more important lies, than Hillary, on the grounds taht he’s been called out more often, and more seriously, by PolitiFact and other fact checkers, and he wants the moderators to correct him.

His chief examples of Trump aying falsehooods are Trump claiming he opposed the Iraq war before it happened, that he renounced birtherism years ago, and that the United States of America is the world’s most highly taxed country.

The truth is Hillary very often tells lies that you only suspect are lies, or that have “legal” defenses.

Sammy Finkelman (3915d0) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:25 am

There’s an easy way to tell when Hillary is ling and when she might be telling the truth:

If she cites a source, or an authority for a statement of fact or opinion, including “people tell me” or “I read” or anything that attribtes the thought or the claim to other people

It’s a LIE

If she just says something on her own say so, and it is totally unsourced and she gives absolutely no authority to back it up,

it’s the TRUTH,

Or at least the conventional wisdom.

Sammy Finkelman (3915d0) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:26 am

Paul Krgman claims Trump lies more, or tells more important lies, than Hillary, on the grounds taht he’s been called out more often, and more seriously, by PolitiFact and other fact checkers, and he wants the moderators to correct him.

Sammy Finkelman (3915d0) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:25 am

Politifact is a joke. In the first place, Politifact doesn’t bother to fact check many lies Democrats tell.

Then there’s their rating “If you like your insurance you can keep it” as TRUE, before any concrete plan even existed and changing it only after Obamacare actually went into effect. They ludicrously rated Obama’s statement that you can buy a gun on the internet as TRUE, based on the reasoning that you can do so illegally and Obama didn’t stipulate that you can do it legally. I wonder if they bothered to fact check Obama’s whopper that it’s easier for children to buy a gun than a book or computer.

Gerald A (76f251) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:45 am

Trump is a “stealth” nothing, he’s always been a democrat he just switched parties to run. The question is this: Is trump a stealth liberal? The answer is NO! ! ! ! He’s more liberal than I but so is everybody. In the dictionary under the word “Conservative” should be my picture.

Penn Hospital patched up my collapsed lung and sent me home. I feel better than I have in months. I’m still an active on the transplant list and since my emphysema is exacerbating my condition it has become more urgent and therefore moves me up the recipient ladder. Hopefully soon. For any of you who threw a prayer my way I say Thanks. I nee all I can get.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:59 am

He’s been a registered Republican most of his life. Trump was a registered Democrat for 9 years.

I pray you get that transplant.

Gerald A (76f251) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:48 am

When I was a young man, former senators and Democratic presidential and vice-presidential nominees Herbert Humphrey and Estes Kefauver stayed at my apartment and we would proudly discuss the great traditions of the Democratic Party.

SlaVERY, JimCrow, military adventurism, speech codes, exponential rise in government spending, racist policy, corruption…

Proud of what?

papertiger (82d7e8) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:55 am

Acceptance.

n.n (137e6e) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:59 am

Penn Hospital patched up my collapsed lung and sent me home. I feel better than I have in months. I’m still an active on the transplant list and since my emphysema is exacerbating my condition it has become more urgent and therefore moves me up the recipient ladder. Hopefully soon. For any of you who threw a prayer my way I say Thanks. I nee all I can get.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:59 am

I don’t like to talk about my prayer.

Matthew 6

5And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. 6But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

I’m making a one time exception for you. You have my most fervent prayers. I don’t think God will mind, this one time.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:32 am

CNN Banner: SOURCES: TED CRUZ EXPECTED TO ENDORSE TRUMP.

Texas toast.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:37 am

I’m a practicing Christian. I’m practicing because I’m still not good at it.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:38 am

Keep at it Hoagie. We look forward to hearing from you here for years and years to come.

JVW (cf259a) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:48 am

I’m a practicing Christian. I’m practicing because I’m still not good at it.

One of my big pet peeves is when the media describes someone (Tim Kaine is the latest) as “a devout Catholic.” Only God knows the true measure of your devotion, not some harebrained reporter for the New York Times. I always describe myself as “a practicing Catholic,” but I would never be so presumptuous to consider myself “devout.”

JVW (cf259a) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:50 am

And for some reason it’s usually the pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ agenda, pro-welfare state left-of-center Catholics whom the media designates as “devout.” Imagine that.

JVW (cf259a) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:53 am

Thank you for correcting me Gerald A. I was under the impression Trump had mostly been a democrat and quite frankly, this blog is what made that impression. When he first came on the Republican scene many of they contributors here were bemoaning his democrat creds. Coming from NYC it is not hard to believe. So what was all the hoopla about him being “democrat lite”? What were all the snide remarks about “two democrats running, pick one”?

I know that in this day and age old farts like me who believe in God and country and apple pie are little more than misfits. To the democrat elite we’re the “deplorables” worth less than a backhanded wave. But even as such I really appreciate all of you who mentioned my name to Him.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:55 am

praying for you hoagie,

narciso (d1f714) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:58 am

DNF @14. I saw that yesterday in the Wall Street Journal. I might have taken that a little seriously as reflecting his genuine opinion, but it’s too pro-Trump down the line. Everything about Trump is good.

Note :Andrew Stein takes credot for the Wollman Rink fix-up and he also reveals another Trump charitable act – from 1984,although hee takes credit for that, too, so maybe Trump was just doing Andrew Stein, who was then City Council president and a potential mayor, a favor when he let his 727 be used to deliver supplies to Puerto Rico after a hurricanme.

Andrew Stein is best known for raising a lot of money to run for mayor, and wasting all of it in early ads, and then withdrawing well before the elecrion. He had a big reputation for being stupid.

Another person who supported RFK who is now supporting Donald Trump is Adam Wildavsky. He was actually a speechwriter for RFK.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:05 pm

Ya know Patterico, even as I was in the Pulmonary ICU I checked in here every day. I couldn’t type or do much more than scream at the screen but dag nabbit I was checkin’ in on you guys.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:06 pm

An example of anon-lie by Hillary yesterday:

we do know that we have two more names to add to a list of African Americans killed by police officers in these encounters

Well, we do two more names to add to the list. It’s a lis composed of all kinds of different cases, but they are definitely on the “list.”

Hillary:“It’s unbearable, and it needs to become intolerable,” Well,intolerable doesn’t mean it can never happen again. that’s asking for the impossible. Rape is intolerable, too.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:09 pm

nothing to see hear,

https://twitter.com/nbcnightlynews/status/779338494988652544

narciso (d1f714) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:12 pm

@15:

“What America needs are leaders to match the greatness of her people!” – Richard Nixon, acceptance speech, August 8, 1968

“I shall resign the Presidency effective at noon tomorrow.”- Richard Nixon, presidential resignation speech, August 8, 1974

Oops.

“Mind if we dance with your dates?” -‘Animal House,’ 1978

DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:21 pm

I know that in this day and age old farts like me who believe in God and country and apple pie are little more than misfits. To the democrat elite we’re the “deplorables” worth less than a backhanded wave. But even as such I really appreciate all of you who mentioned my name to Him.

Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:55 am

God bless you Hoagie.

I’m probably half your age, but feel the same. Glad you’re doing better.

njrob (20ab76) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:30 pm

Good to hear, Hoagie.

Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:33 pm

Cruz………..

G (f85a02) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:40 pm

Ted Cruz has, at the final moment, when the chips are down the integrity to do the right thing for his country, and vote for Donald Trump to effectively oppose Hillary Clinton. Leadership.

Do you likewise have sufficient decency, integrity, and judgment?

Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:41 pm

The Don’s being mercilessly thorough:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

Hillary Clinton just lost every Republican she ever had, including Never Trump, all farmers & sm. biz, by saying she’ll tax estates at 65%.

Dystopia Max (76803a) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:46 pm

…“What America needs are leaders to match the greatness of her people!” – Richard Nixon, acceptance speech, August 8, 1968…

DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:21 pm

Nixon was right about that. He certainly wasn’t the solution to the problem he successfully diagnosed.

The problem is, in my estimation, that despite the big talk this country doesn’t promote people willing to take risks. Ensign Chester Nimitz ran the USS Decatur aground (imagine that; Ensigns commanding ships) in 1907. He preserved his career at court martial with the defense that a destroyer captain has to be aggressive. Aggressive captains run risks, and risk running their ships aground.

On one of his visits to Guadalcanal, Nimitz was talking to future Commandant General Vandergrift about rewriting naval regulations. He asked the general if he had any suggestions. The general didn’t hestitate. He said get rid of the regulation that running a ship aground is a court martial offense. That made skippers too timid. Nimitz must have smiled at that, given his record.

But we still have that regulation. Ensign Nimitz would never have made admiral in today’s Navy.

And this isn’t a disease restricted to the Navy. Chesty Puller should have gotten a Medal of Honor instead of a fourth or fifth Navy Cross. But he didn’t because he made too many enemies. By making other Marine Corps officers look bad. He said himself that he wouldn’t have made general except for Korea. And shortly thereafter he was medically discharged. Because, he made other Marine Corps officers look bad.

Unless things have changed, and I can confidently say they haven’t changed for the better, we have JGs in E-2Cs working out battle problems the admirals didn’t think of. Because we weed out people who can think. And, unremarkably, we have a good chance of electing someone who doesn’t know what (C) means as CinC. I can explain to someone with a GED what (C) means along with other classification levels and the rules and regulations for protecting classified information.

But someone too stupid to understand, or, more probably, someone smart enough to know the electorate is too stupid to understand that understanding this s*** will elect her, may just well be elevated to an office where she will be in command of people far her superiors.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/23/2016 @ 1:11 pm

I used to be a “NeverTrump.” This is one of the reasons I’ve changed my point of view:

Via Powerline –

Hillary: The Third World Has a “Right” to Move to the United States

On Monday, Donald Trump gave a speech on terrorism and immigration in which he said:

“We want people to come into our country, but they have to come in legally, through a process…. No one has a right to immigrate to this country.”

That should be a truism. But, as Byron York points out, Hillary Clinton responded in a retweet that she disagrees.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/09/hillary-the-third-world-has-a-right-to-move-to-the-united-states.php

Walter Cronanty (f48cd5) — 9/23/2016 @ 1:33 pm

I can see I didn’t say what I meant with exactly the precision I intended. But I can also see you get the point, Bob.

The troops are, in my estimation, a cut above the average citizen. I’m not saying you have to serve, or that there are aren’t above average citizens who never wore a uniform. We have a system in place that denies the troops of the best leaders. And the citizenry, too.

Hillary!? She doesn’t deserve to be dog catcher. I’ve s***canned better people, and now I’m kind of ashamed of it. But I thought, at the time, it was the best thing I could do for the country.

Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/23/2016 @ 1:34 pm

it doesn’t specify if it was manila bay, or some other remote inlet in the phillipines,

narciso (d1f714) — 9/23/2016 @ 1:38 pm

CRUZ ENDORSES TRUMP

Translation: ‘The worm has turned.’ – Shakespeare

DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/23/2016 @ 6:03 pm

Do you likewise have sufficient decency, integrity, and judgment?

Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/23/2016 @ 12:41 pm

No.

Bill H (971e5f) — 9/23/2016 @ 6:48 pm

Buchanan on “beating the spread”:

http://buchanan.org/blog/trump-wins-debate-125730

DNF (ffe548) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:27 pm

I’ve been lurking and reading on this site over the last few months and have learned a lot from many who are much smarter than me. My mother, who only had a 9th grade education, used to say, “Politicians, they’re all a bunch of crooks!” With Ted Cruz’s recent support of Donald Trump I fear she was right. I am not surprised at his announcement, but I am disappointed. In the future, if the comments don’t move too quickly for me, I will try to participate now and then. We live in interesting times.

Timbly (011fb1) — 9/23/2016 @ 9:40 pm

Go for it, Timbly. If you’ve been reading and lurking for the past months, you should have a pretty good feel for the site, it’s host, the cob loggers and it’s inhabitants.

Bill H (971e5f) — 9/23/2016 @ 11:23 pm

JR will defeat Maudie on November 8.

He’s taller.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/25/2016 @ 1:14 pm

26. Gerald A (76f251) — 9/23/2016 @ 10:45 am

Politifact is a joke. In the first place, Politifact doesn’t bother to fact check many lies Democrats tell.

I’d consider the statistical comparison worthless, especially since it is being cited by someone pro-Hillary in this election.

Then there’s their rating “If you like your insurance you can keep it” as TRUE, before any concrete plan even existed and changing it only after Obamacare actually went into effect. They ludicrously rated Obama’s statement that you can buy a gun on the internet as TRUE, based on the reasoning that you can do so illegally and Obama didn’t stipulate that you can do it legally. I wonder if they bothered to fact check Obama’s whopper that it’s easier for children to buy a gun than a book or computer. They did.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/14/barack-obama/barack-obama-offers-flawed-comparison-between-teen/

Our ruling

Obama said, “We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book.”

There’s little doubt that in some lower-income and high-crime neighborhoods, it is strikingly easy for even teens to acquire a handgun. On this, there is ample anecdotal evidence.

But buying a gun is not likely to be cheaper than buying — or borrowing — a book or securing access to a computer, even for teens in poor neighborhoods.

On multiple levels, Obama’s comparison is flawed. We rate it Mostly False.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 9/26/2016 @ 12:06 pm

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