Patterico's Pontifications

9/17/2016

Nothing to See Here Folks

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:08 am



100% not weird at all.

94 Responses to “Nothing to See Here Folks”

  1. stinkypig has great boobs too plus unlike mama trump’s boobs her ones are historic

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  2. Robert Higgs:

    I can go down to the beach and order the tides to cease or I can cast a vote in the presidential election. One act is as effective as the other in bringing about a change in conditions. But I get more enjoyment from commanding the tides to cease, and I also avoid soiling my hands by contact with the corrupt and evil political system, so I’ll just stick with my attempts to control nature. La la la.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  3. That’s how filial love is displayed in this family, obviously.

    What, you don’t brag on your mom’s boobs when you’re engaged in public speaking? What’s wrong with your family?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  4. Patterico, I think this is what happened in the primaries:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVkonHpxKk

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  5. In fairness, when Ivana remarried, she had the ceremony at one of ex-husband Donald’s properties in Palm Beach. Trump was even there “on the sidelines,” which shows either a remarkable degree of equanimity for Trump, or else reveals that he views ex-wives sort of the way most men view cars after trading them in. And he reportedly only his own beak only a little wet in the process:

    One source told me The Donald had charged Ivana the wholesale price of $700,000 for the wedding at his Florida estate — forsaking his normal profit at a retail price of $1.3 million. (Her rep declined to comment on the financial arrangements.)

    Beldar (fa637a)

  6. Sorry, omitted the link for that last quote.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  7. Mr. Trump’s kid says stuff about his mom’s boobs when making a wedding toast but stinkypig’s husband is a raper with a herpes penis

    ikes!

    that said, where’s the actual quote about the ivanka boobs?

    nobody seems to have an actual quote giving context to where the good reader can attain even a moderate level of understanding of Mr. Trump Jr.’s sentiment and import about the breasts in question

    this feels to me Mr. P like you been trickered into doing journolist on Mr. Trump Jr.

    amazon turdlord jeffy bezos’s crew of wapo propaganda sluts are out with a hit piece on him today as well

    huffpost cnn politico got their marching orders today too

    you are not in good company mister

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. “Donald Trump Jr., at his mom’s wedding, toasted her by saying she had “great boobs” “

    JR, Jr.,– just a chip off the ol’block.

    “… and then there’s Maude! And then there’s Maude! And then there’s Maude… Right On, Maude!”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. One source told me The Donald had charged Ivana the wholesale price of $700,000 for the wedding at his Florida estate — forsaking his normal profit at a retail price of $1.3 million. (Her rep declined to comment on the financial arrangements.)
    Beldar (fa637a) — 9/17/2016 @ 11:24 am

    Wow. That was really white of him. I wonder if he stuck around mostly to ensure the guests didn’t swipe the bathroom towels or the dinnerware. I mean, at $700K there isn’t much room for those kind of losses.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  10. why should Mr. Trump foot the bill for Ivanka to marry some other guy?

    did harvardtrash ted foot the bill for when his first wife got remarried or something?

    where’s this idea even coming from?

    this is goofy talk

    i want an explanation

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. @9. Hmmm. Ivana should have shopped around.

    Our firm rented the Playboy Mansion for a gig at just $5,000 for the evening– we got the full Grotto which included a few bunnies as hostesses and one walk thru by a bathrobed Hef.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. Hatefulfeet, your insults to the host make me like you even less.

    You’re accusing Patterico of taking orders from the Clinton campaign in what he writes here.

    You base that on an accusation that there’s no source or link for a quote, when in fact there is one in what Patterico posted, and it in turn contains another link. Now maybe you want to say those sources aren’t credible. But do not lie and say that Patterico provided no source.

    He pays for the bandwidth you use to abuse him, and yet continues to let you pull this crap daily. He is a patient man, but I believe you will eventually test his forbearance to the point that you get banned from this blog.

    I will not miss you when it happens.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  13. More precisely: You make that accusation about taking orders from the Clintons while simultaneously falsely accusing our host. It is in fact you who are making completely unsourced and absolutely unbelievable accusations designed to convey insult.

    And here comes some answer in baby-talk.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  14. you are doing dishonest assertion on ME Mr. Beldar

    i most certainly did NOT accuse Mr. P of “taking orders”

    i said i feared someone had done trickery on him

    furthermore

    you are doing even MORE dishonest assertion on me Mr. Beldar when you say i said “there’s no source or link for a quote”

    i specifically said there’s no *context* for the “great boobs” snippet for so we can see how it figured in the wedding toast

    you should try and be a more honest person i think you would be happier

    that is really slimy – how you lie and twist words to get people banned

    you should try to have more integrity I think cause of that’s really scummy behavior

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  15. Beldar, here is the situation:

    https://vimeo.com/70753317

    As you suggest, Patterico is patient.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  16. LOL. “Scummy.”

    Does the term “Kaepertwat” ring a bell, Mr. Feet?

    Look, I get that you want to do whatever you want on Patterico’s site. That’s cool, as long as it is cool with him.

    What amuses me no end is how you get all nelly about people calling you names FAR milder than you call others.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  17. I agree with happyfeet that when you trace the stories back through the various sources, there is no context for the quote about the boobs. That said, it’s hard for me to imagine a context that would render such a comment appropriate in my eyes. But my view of what is appropriate almost certainly does not line up well with the views of the Trump family. I’m good with that.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  18. Oh…

    “…you should try to have more integrity I think cause of that’s really scummy behavior…”

    I agree! Voting would be a great way to show your integrity!

    Otherwise you are just messing around, right?

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  19. i bid you all a good day I have to go to a birthday party

    Mr. Beldar I hope in future our discourse can be more productive

    this was not your best day i do not think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  20. Oh, Beldar! I think you hurt his feelings.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  21. yes i was taken aback at his argue tactics

    my goodness that was a little aggro with the word-twisting and the idea about banning me to where I don’t even get to make comments

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  22. Sort of like using language like Kaepertwat?

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  23. Seriously, dude, if you are going to be sensitive, which is fine, quite being a jackwagon.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  24. that’s a very good word what communicates a concept to the reader

    you should show how i used it in context

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  25. Can’t we all just get along?

    (Actual quote: can we all get along?)

    Patterico (bcf524)

  26. I think JD should be the only one allowed to use any variant of the word tw*t where * is not an “i” and even then only in the word tw*twaffle because that is his signature word.

    I miss him.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  27. #11 DCSCA,

    Your firm ought to have asked for some of its money back.
    For all that money, I don’t want an elderly bathrobed Hugh Hefner strolling through my party — I want Miss April! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  28. yes yes Mr. Beldar i apologize for my uncharitable characterization of your argue tactics

    lawyers have a way of speaking what can be a bit startling for an unlearned and provincial lil pikachu

    yes yes Mr. JD is away having adventures i guess

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  29. The New Yorker Magazine has the context. They thought it was a totally normal toast to make at your mother’s next wedding. Must be those New York values and I guess happyfeet has them, too.

    DRJ (15874d)

  30. hmmm

    it seems to be a popular coinage

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  31. holy moly what’s with you people

    you just now linked the context i never read my whole life and in the same sentence you say i share them values before I even read it!

    brb I’m a read it now

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  32. By the way, apparently Ivana had the right to partial use Mar-A-Lago as part of her divorce settlement so that reduced fee may not have been The Donald being nice.

    DRJ (15874d)

  33. oh. nonono

    i mean in what textual context did the “great boobs” quote appear

    as in I’d like to read if not the whole toast then the parts immediately preceding and following the words in question about the boobs

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  34. ok friend is at door bye

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  35. The New Yorker Magazine has the context. They thought it was a totally normal toast to make at your mother’s next wedding. Must be those New York values and I guess happyfeet has them, too.

    It’s some further context but we still don’t know exactly what he said. I’m still pretty confident that, whatever it was, I would not have said it myself in the same place — and that, had I been unfortunate enough to attend an event like this (hard to imagine in the first place) a comment like that would make me want to leave.

    But without knowing the exact context it’s impossible to say for sure. My opinion is based in part on my already-existing perception of the man, based on his other comments, as well as my perception of the family as a whole.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  36. Ok, hf, was Jr.’s comment appropriate to not? If you think it was, then you share those values. Jr. is a chip off the old block and I’m betting you think it’s fine.

    DRJ (15874d)

  37. We live in a society where everyone wears flip-flops and revealing clothing to church, to the doctor’s office, and to the store. Even grandmothers have tattoos of fire-breathing dragons on their legs.
    A child can flip the clicker and see sex acts on HBO.

    We live in a different society now.
    By contrast, unfortunately, the Trump kid commenting about his mom’s boobs is small fries compared to everything else.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  38. DRJ, I think hf is just going to say we can’t know because we don’t know exactly what he said.

    And technically that may be true, but I feel as though I have enough information to reach a conclusion.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  39. I find that when people start carrying on about how they were quoted “out of context,” it generally means that they know that their mouths wrote a check they can’t cash.

    Patterico, I understand the value of free speech, but it goes both ways. If person “A” wants to use language that they would never use in person at work, person “B” should be able to say that they find it offensive.

    There must be middle ground. I would never go to a party where a person acted like Mr. Feet, person to person. I doubt many people would. On the other hand, lots of folks don’t invite me to parties.

    But it’s not anyone’s party here but YOURS.

    I do think that NSFW language tends to drive away other voices. Perhaps I am wrong. I could make a case that Gresham’s Law has taken place quite a bit here, but again it’s not my party.

    I adore your posts, Patterico, even when I don’t agree with them. Lots of room for thought. Ditto for many posters, like Beldar, DRJ, Dana… I like it when people begin disagreeing with one another without playing slip and slide in the sewer (again, my opinion only). But I miss many, many voices around here.

    Best wishes.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  40. It’s their version of the “broken window” policy, CS.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. to vote or not vote
    can one cast a vote for Trump
    and not feel like Gump?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. this Ozzy Clinton
    teh before and after pics
    Doctor Feelgood’s work

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. I have the best reason yet for electing Trump.

    If Trump loses, it will take decades for the party to disown him. But if he’s elected, we can impeach him and disown him immediately.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  44. @27– We had the Playmate of the Year– his wife at the time– strut through w/him to the ‘playroom’– along w/t peacocks.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. CS Miss April is the cruelest of Playmates.

    I guess when Don Jr runs we can compare him to Caligula and imply that he and dad enjoyed a little menage a tata action like pretty much any man in history who has sired a child.

    Meanwhile Huma is the only one in the Clinton Global Initiative who can pick MA Barker’s rack out of a lineup.

    I guess they get compared to pancakes because they are flat on the ground so often.

    Pinandpuller (847f34)

  46. Isn’t that special?

    https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EwgoIBehHzo

    LBascom (c230be)

  47. “Hatefulfeet, your insults to the host make me like you even less.

    You’re accusing Patterico of taking orders from the Clinton campaign in what he writes here.”

    Maybe less from the Clinton campaign directly than from a nominally rightist #NeverTrumper, who probably do get money from the Clinton campaign, so, same difference.

    “You base that on an accusation that there’s no source or link for a quote, when in fact there is one in what Patterico posted, and it in turn contains another link. Now maybe you want to say those sources aren’t credible. But do not lie and say that Patterico provided no source.”

    When the election comes down to the wire, what I really want to hear about from people we have to ‘get along’ with are gossip magazines from 2008.

    “He pays for the bandwidth you use to abuse him, and yet continues to let you pull this crap daily. He is a patient man, but I believe you will eventually test his forbearance to the point that you get banned from this blog.”

    happyfeet has a unique schtick and draws eyeballs. Beta Beldar provides neither enough humor, nor good cheer, nor even intelligent and snappy comebacks to replace happyfeet. #NeverTrumpers like him are a dime a dozen.

    “I will not miss you when it happens.”

    No one even reads you except to mock you, dude you’re like 12 lmao.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  48. @47

    I think what they are trying to say is that it takes a wheelbarrow worth of hf comments to buy a loaf of bread.

    I don’t agree but then again I’m probably on the sh*tposting leaderboard.

    Pinandpuller (847f34)

  49. david spade, is a rank misogynist, shirley you can’t be serious,

    narciso (d1f714)

  50. I absolutely disagree that there was no context about the comment about boobs available. Lots of context was no more than three or four mouse clicks away. The tweet that Patterico linked had the gist and provided a link to a Daily Beast article, which in turn provided a link to the New York Magazine short (one long paragraph) article that was devoted to Ivana’s wedding, part of which read:

    After Ivana Trump’s divorce from the Donald, she coined the phrase, “Don’t get mad, get everytiiing!” Back then, she got several million dollars, a couple of estates, and the partial use of Donald’s giant Mar-a-Lago complex in Palm Beach. She cashed in on those rights on Saturday, by throwing herself a massive wedding party for her nuptials with playboy Rossano Rubicondi. It sounds like it was the social event of the season the weekend! It was so exclusive that only one gossip columnist seems to have been invited, Ben Widdicombe from the Daily News. Other luminaries present included “Brigitte Nielsen, George Hamilton, Dr. Ruth Westheimer and Robin Leach.” Oh, and the Donald himself, who left Melania upstairs at the house to come down and party. During his speech, Ivana’s son Donald Jr. warned Rubicondi: “We are a construction company and we have job sites, we lose people… You better treat her right, because I have a .45 and a shovel.” This confirmed something we’ve always suspected about the Trumps — that they are mobbed up that they are sometimes capable of actual humor, that isn’t outside the bounds of taste. Of course, this sense of surprise lasted only two sentences, until we read how he also spent some of his speech extolling the glories of his mother’s “great boobs.” …

    Also linked from that New York Magazine webpage is a New York Daily News article about Ivana’s wedding, which I linked in one of my comments above (#6); it includes some of the same information, but also more context:

    Donald Trump Jr. threatening to kill his new stepfather wasn’t the most romantic part of Ivana Trump’s wedding to Rossano Rubicondi on Saturday. But it was the most fun!

    “We are a construction company and we have job sites, we lose people,” Don Jr. told his mother’s fourth husband from the microphone at her Palm Beach wedding. “You better treat her right, because I have a .45 and a shovel.”

    The eldest son of Donald and Ivana Trump had given his mother away (with brother Eric) just a few hours before. But at the reception in the ballroom of Mar-a-Lago, it fell to him to deliver a bawdy speech that also dwelled upon his mother’s “great boobs.”

    Now, I do not vouch for any of these sources. They may accurately be described as tabloid journalists of the very sort that Trump himself feeds, cultivates, and in particular, cited when he defamed Ted Cruz’ family.

    But the story doesn’t “lack context.” Rather, there’s lots. If you read all these links, you’ll know more about Ivana’s wedding than I can remember about my own, including how tall the wedding cake was and how much it weighed, what the dress code was, and who the last people were to leave. The particular bits about Donnie Jr. are entirely consistent with the loose cannon nature Donnie Jr. displays with the same regularity as his father. There are tons of videos on the internet of Donnie Jr. being rude and vulgar, if not quite this incestuously weird: A YouTube search on “Donald Trump Jr rude” turns up 7280 hits.

    As for hatefulfeet’s comment (#7), it first attacked our host’s post for lack of an “actual quote”:

    that said, where’s the actual quote about the ivanka boobs?

    nobody seems to have an actual quote giving context to where the good reader can attain even a moderate level of understanding of Mr. Trump Jr.’s sentiment and import about the breasts in question

    The actual quote, literally and in non-baby-talk, is “great boobs.” It’s a two-word quote. Although only two words, they are definitely meaningful. Our host provided us with those two words in quotation marks, along with links back to the place(s) originally quoting. In particular, the use of quote marks — indicating a direct quotation — would have exposed the NYDN and these other publications to a libel suit from Donnie Jr. if inaccurate. (The quote about the death threat to his new step-father would definitely have caught the NYDN’s lawyers’ opinion, and we know the Trump Family, not just Papa Trump, is quick to sue.) We don’t have a transcript and we don’t have a video. But no one — not the tweet, not the Daily Beast, not its source, not its source’s source — ever claimed to.

    Believe the quote or not as you will. Don’t attack Patterico for not quoting accurately and linking properly.

    What made me quite angry, however, was when hatefulfeet next attacked our host’s intelligence and ethics (#7) (italics mine):

    this feels to me Mr. P like you been trickered into doing journolist on Mr. Trump Jr.

    huffpost cnn politico got their marching orders today too

    you are not in good company mister

    So according to our hatefulfeet, not only is our host in company with these news organizations, he’s the sort of blogger who can be tricked into joining a corrupt, conspiratorial, and hard-left-wing organization dedicated to subverting fair news coverage.

    Pardon me for reading that like an insult. I guess I just can’t understand the damned babytalk.

    I keep forgetting that it’s impossible to shame the shameless.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  51. Beldar, Mr. Feet travels light when it comes to facts. He just posts to stir things up, and to see how far he can push things. There is little in his long history here and at Goldstein’s site to suggest otherwise.

    Lots of folks appreciate your contributions and the care you put into making them.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  52. Can anyone tell me what context — factual or textual or any other kind of context — could possibly make it appropriate for an adult son, speaking at his mother’s re-marriage, to describe her as having “great boobs”?

    hatefulfeet, I’m still waiting for you to answer DRJ’s question (#36).

    Beldar (fa637a)

  53. Thank you, Simon. Like you, I’ve been reading hatefulfeet’s comments for years. I bestowed the “Mr. Feet” moniker on him. He’s always been silly, usually frivolous. But until he became a Trumpkin shill, he didn’t strike me as hateful or scatalogical. Now he’s never anything but.

    Our host is very tolerant, and it takes a lot before he’ll call anyone out for anything, especially an insult to himself. But when I see this level of ingratitude, and the reckless and casual insults, directed at the very guy who’s paying for the bandwidth for hatefulfeet to spew here, I feel obliged to point it out. Even if our host takes no offense, I do on his behalf.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  54. Again, Beldar, what is the point of Mr. Feet’s posts?

    He has a lot in common with Mr. Trump: getting reactions is the important thing, as well as saying whatever he wishes.

    But I doubt he thought terribly deeply about the issue; more of a reaction. I know he doesn’t attention to things he has said in the past at all.

    By the way, I’m sure he is a nice fellow in person, or so I have been told.

    The internet does weird things.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  55. Yeah, Beldar, it has concerned me for some time…but it’s not my site.

    The offensive language toward people of faith in particular upset me; people I like and respect around here were being insulted. The schtick isn’t funny; it’s a mask, like Jon Stewart’s awful “clown nose on / clown nose off” excuse.

    We have spoken a bit IRL, so you know that when I needed genuine help, Patterico and a few other people stood up for me. Patterico didn’t have to do that; he is a good man. I think that even when I disagree with him.

    So I try to support him, but I know he doesn’t need my help.

    I just like many of the posters here, and fewer and fewer of them post…and more and more insulting and angry people do.

    Just my opinion.

    You seem like a true gentleman, and that is good to see in our coarse world.

    Simon Jester (2708f4)

  56. I know it’s salon, but were raised by wolves, spawned from a cocoon,

    https://twitter.com/mylittlepwnies3/status/777169418673676292

    narciso (d1f714)

  57. @52. Showbiz.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  58. you see why I call it the basilisk,

    narciso (d1f714)

  59. A question I bet most Trump supporters have asked, I know I have.

    https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2016/09/16/what-will-the-nevertrumpers-do-if-trump-wins/?singlepage=true

    I once asked Jeff Goldstein, a very committed Trump hater, what if Trump did everything Goldstein expected a very conservative President to do, and he told me it didn’t matter, he would still oppose him.

    I’ve since mused that nevertrumpers, of the sort discribed in the link, and the host of this blog that have wrapped the election up in a referendum on their own virtue, that if Trump is elected they have put themselves in the position of hoping Trump fails to be a good president and fails to make America great again.

    What a terrible spot to be in, rooting for America’s failure to protect your principles…

    LBascom (c230be)

  60. Beldar, Mr. Feet travels light when it comes to facts.
    Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/17/2016 @ 6:42 pm

    HEH, I have not subjected myself to HF’s comments in a long while, but you are right.

    felipe (023cc9)

  61. You fellows got any examples of happyfeet Bing “light” on the facts?

    LBascom (c230be)

  62. perhaps on a day when coalition forces didn’t ‘accidentally’ target syrian military personnel, when there have explosions in three different venues, this ephemera would mean something,

    narciso (d1f714)

  63. @58– Interesting exercise. Conservatives ‘would rather fight than switch’ – as the old Tareyton cigarette commercials used to pitch– but then, in the end, the coffin nails killed you all the same.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. as you can see from that link, she needed oven mitts stapled to her clothing, three cups of crazy,

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. “43. I have the best reason yet for electing Trump.
    If Trump loses, it will take decades for the party to disown him. But if he’s elected, we can impeach him and disown him immediately.”

    You guys are so funny.

    If Trump loses, the Republican Party establishment will *wish* that they had supported that nice man Mr. Trump back in 2016, when they see what the Repub voters pick next time.

    If Trump wins, “we” will be all the nevertrumpers — who will fit in the party room at the local pizza joint.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  66. “50. The actual quote, literally and in non-baby-talk, is “great boobs.” It’s a two-word quote.”
    Beldar, you are losing it. I guess it must be a lawyer thing. That two word quote is just 2 words — no context and we don’t know what was said before and after, just those two words. For all we know, it might have been just like the crap that is normal for a roast.

    “52. Can anyone tell me what context — factual or textual or any other kind of context — could possibly make it appropriate for an adult son, speaking at his mother’s re-marriage, to describe her as having “great boobs”?”

    New York humor? Construction worker crude humor?

    I have read more than once of people from New York saying that that’s how New Yorkers talk. Scott Adams is one.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  67. LBascom (c230be) — 9/17/2016 @ 7:29 pm

    No one said that ” happyfeet [was]B[e]ing ‘light’ on the facts.”

    The esteemed Simon Jester said: “Mr. Feet travels light when it comes to facts.”

    Words matter. Try to keep up. If Simon’s meaning escapes you, there is no shame in asking for a clarification of what was said, but don’t ask for a clarification of what was not said.

    felipe (023cc9)

  68. Felipe, you are right, my bad.

    LBascom (c230be)

  69. Also, come to think of it, all I did was ask for clarification. Not sure why you’re so surly.

    LBascom (c230be)

  70. 52 Beldar (fa637a) — 9/17/2016 @ 6:43 pm

    .Can anyone tell me what context — factual or textual or any other kind of context — could possibly make it appropriate for an adult son, speaking at his mother’s re-marriage, to describe her as having “great boobs”?

    It is not appropriate, but Donald J. Trump Jr. thought it was OK, because he wasn’t exactly being serious. He treated his whole speech like he was taking part in a celebrity “roast” where part of the idea is to sort of pretend to be frank without actually being so, sometimes being more cynical than they actually are.

    It was probably offered as a reason for the groom’s interest in his mother, and deliberately exaggerated and maybe dwelt upon, if the daily News story is correct. The actual “compliment” had probably been made at one time or another by his father.

    He maybe treated it as a “roast” because he wasn’t so comfortable celebrating that wedding.

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8726)

  71. @ fred-2, who wrote, ridiculously:

    For all we know, it might have been just like the crap that is normal for a roast.

    It was her wedding.

    In what context is it normal for an adult son to talk about his mother’s “great boobs” at her wedding?

    Is it normal for the bride to be “roasted”?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  72. You’re telling me it’s normal for New Yorkers to talk about their mother’s great boobs at their mother’s wedding, fred-2? If so, you should be able to provide at least five other examples, with all of Google at your fingertips.

    Tick, tock.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  73. Or you, Mr. Finkelman. Some examples, please, of wedding roasts where the bride’s adult son used the phrase “great boobs.”

    Beldar (fa637a)

  74. You want my speculation? He was drunk and out of control. Donnie Jr. has admitted that in the past, he had a drinking problem. Perhaps this was then.

    If he’s sobered up, terrific, good for him. But don’t try to sell this as “normal,” because it is not normal, it’s not funny, it’s not cute, and it is creepy.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  75. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least five rom-com movies whose plots have included some buffoon embarrassing himself with an inappropriate wedding speech. I’ll bet there are two dozen or more that I haven’t seen or can’t recall. It’s a comedy staple, we’ve also seen it on TV sitcoms too, right? Usually it’s the best man saying something inappropriate about the groom, but there are probably some variations where someone (maybe the maid of honor) says something inappropriate about the bride. It’s a cliche, a comedy staple.

    Maybe that weird English guy who made “Borat” would put into a movie an adult character who gives a wedding reception speech that includes reference to his mother the bride’s “great boobs.” But it would be a character who we’re supposed to hate, not even to laugh at.

    “I will be forever grateful to my mother for giving me life, for feeding me at her breast, for nurturing my body and soul ….” Yeah, okay. Sure. That might not be wildly inappropriate. But replace the word “breast” there with “great boobs,” and there’s a whole different reaction, isn’t there?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  76. Beldar (fa637a) — 9/18/2016 @ 1:17 am

    Is it normal for the bride to be “roasted”?

    It was the groom, or possibly the wedding, that was being roasted. It isn’t normal at a wedding, but Donald J. Trump Jr. might have been expected to have a little resentment.

    Sammy Finkelman (1a8726)

  77. Let’s agree to agree that it isn’t normal at a wedding.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  78. feets has been ugly and hateful many times in the past, even to the point of our host getting fed up with him
    Palin, McCain, Cruz, pro-life in general have been among the objects of his ire.

    I personally, fwiw, generally ignore him.
    I also am generally ignoring anything about Trump, there is little anyone could say, I think, that would change my opinion much. He is a person who should not be near the presidency,
    but I doubt he could be worse than Obama without getting opposed or even impeached.

    Clinton should be in fed pen, but the fact she is around at all demonstrates the perversity of the D party, and we know how feckless the Republicans have been in opposing them.

    I’m just a guest here, but I am tired of it all.
    If we are getting the government we deserve,
    We’ve been a very bad country in some respects

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  79. I once asked Jeff Goldstein, a very committed Trump hater, what if Trump did everything Goldstein expected a very conservative President to do, and he told me it didn’t matter, he would still oppose him.

    I’ve since mused that nevertrumpers, of the sort discribed in the link, and the host of this blog that have wrapped the election up in a referendum on their own virtue, that if Trump is elected they have put themselves in the position of hoping Trump fails to be a good president and fails to make America great again.

    What a terrible spot to be in, rooting for America’s failure to protect your principles…

    LBascom (c230be) — 9/17/2016 @ 7:13 pm

    I would appreciate a link to Goldstein saying he would oppose Trump even if he acted like a conservative as President.

    The main reason I oppose Trump now is because I don’t believe he is or will act like a conservative. I would celebrate if, as President, Trump did conservative things. I hope I am wrong about Trump but I don’t think I am since he’s already backtracking on his promises and promoting liberal policies.

    Trump is a New York liberal Democrat who feels comfortable calling himself a Republican because he doesn’t like Democratic diversity policies. They impact his businesses more than most elites, who probably agree with Trump in private but toe the Party line in public. It’s an hypocrisy that isn’t the province of New York liberals but it starts young. Perhaps it’s because (or evidenced by?) the fact that NYC is one of the most segregated cities in America.

    DRJ (15874d)

  80. @ LBascom, who wrote (#58):

    What a terrible spot to be in, rooting for America’s failure to protect your principles.

    Speaking only for myself, I am not rooting for America’s failure.

    But it became a certainty that America will have an unfit president when the race came down to Hillary and Trump.

    It is exactly as easy for me to imagine Hillary Clinton performing in office exactly like my hypothetical ideal conservative POTUS as it is for me to imagine Donald Trump doing so. That is to say, both are equally impossible to imagine. 0.00 to however many decimal places you run it.

    But it does annoy the crap out of me that you impute to everyone who refuses to support Trump a desire that America fail. You are a creature of very limited horizons.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  81. Why would alcohol be a necessary element to describe a shoat behaving like his sire? It’s not as if he was raised in a different sty.

    Rick Ballard (f8b9ce)

  82. @80 Rick Ballard

    Certainly not Bed-Stuy.

    Pinandpuller (8c66fc)

  83. @81: But Barron Trump might succeed the first wave of hipsters that get there.

    urbanleftbehind (379161)

  84. Not that I’ve been kissed by an attractive woman in decades and in actual fact my best bud over recent years is a Baptist minister, this post just drives home #nevertrump being a confederation of self-righteous prissy pseudo-sophisticates.

    Don’t really know much about anything excepting their chosen careers, the fact that they’ve moved up a rung in socio-economic class makes them obligatory snobs.

    No Trumpkins do not idolize, worship or otherwise wish to party with Trump, but we do loathe Pharisees.

    DNF (755a85)

  85. #nevertrump continues to ‘kick against the goads’:

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/bernie-bust-150-turn-sanders-ohio-stop-hillary/

    Polling continues at 50 days prior to over-estimate HRC turnout, and under-estimate Trump turnout.

    How many associates of the caustic hypocrites representing #nevertrump herein would reveal their intent or disposition to vote Trump publicly?

    How many of the Borg will bother to vote when taking a phone survey is the most they’ve invested.

    Trends could end tomorrow but betting against them is a risk.

    DNF (755a85)

  86. @78- I would provide a link, but it was in the comment section at protein wisdom, which has mysteriously disappeared.

    @79- Beldar, I don’t think you are consciously rooting for America to fail, I was saying nevertrumpers, once Trump is elected president, will be hoping HE fails, to validate their months of vitriol and virtue signaling, and so by extension hoping he does not succeed in making America great again. Thus in essence rooting for America’s failure.

    We shall see after the election…

    LBascom (c230be)

  87. #45 Pinandpuller,

    WOW, in regards to ‘Miss April,’ you actually referred to TS Eliot’s ‘The Wasteland.’
    That might be the thread winner for the rest of the year. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  88. L.Bascom,

    You are certainly entitled to your negative opinions about NeverTrumpers, just as some NeverTrumpers are entitled to believe that Trump supporters are motivated by racism.

    I guess you and those NeverTrumpers could both be right. But I think it’s sad that you are so unwilling to listen to other opinions, and that you are so negative about other Americans who probably share your goals.

    DRJ (15874d)

  89. By the way, LBascom, any idea why you can’t find the comment you claim Jeff left? It could be because hackers attacked and took down Jeff’s website when he said he opposed Trump. If that’s true, who do you think did that and do you support it?

    DRJ (15874d)

  90. “You are certainly entitled to your negative opinions about NeverTrumpers, just as some NeverTrumpers are entitled to believe that Trump supporters are motivated by racism.

    I guess you and those NeverTrumpers could both be right. But I think it’s sad that you are so unwilling to listen to other opinions, and that you are so negative about other Americans who probably share your goals.”

    “Some people believe otherwise”
    “Just your opinion, maaan”
    “Can’t we all just get along?”

    This here liberal talk really isn’t helping your case, and the whole ‘Never’ in the term kind of obviates that assesment.

    Our pro-Trump comments are missives of mercy before the Day of Reckoning, that you may not be thrown into the WoodChipper of Political Irrelevance with Rick Wilson and the rest of the Clown Consultants. This is a democracy, and the current counting is on our side, rising, heavily disproportionate to your count, and extremely motivated to ensure that the count remains on our side once we take power.

    You tried to triangulate with an infernal and cancerous arrangement. You lost. Rather than accept this, you feel the need to snark about trivialities while moving in the right direction at an absolutely glacial pace. Like the vidya’s say: “Trump’s supporters will remember that.”

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  91. “take power”
    You?

    “Who is mighty? He who controls his own self.”

    You are in fact a very weak man and (to continue with the rest of Ben-Zoma’s questions) poor, unwise, and dishonorable.

    Kishnevi (857e3e)

  92. “Who is mighty? He who controls his own self.”

    You are in fact a very weak man and (to continue with the rest of Ben-Zoma’s questions) poor, unwise, and dishonorable.”

    A peerlessly powerful platitude which I’m sure will raise Egg McMuffin’s poll numbers any day now. But if it doesn’t work for you, try: “What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  93. @89- I listen. For example, I listened to Patterico say he would not vote for any down ticket candidates that supported Trump. Which is kinda confirmation of what I was talking about. Nevertrumpers sabotaging America out of spite.

    @90- If you go to the website, there is a message up from June that says ” about a week ago a hacker managed to run an attack on the site and inject unwanted content, and deleting the content broke the site.” I have no additional information on what happened.

    I believe Jeff has blamed Trump supporters, but I don’t think he has any evidence for the claim. His site has been attacked and temporarily taken down previously, before Trump.

    If it is true, I have no idea who may have done it, there weren’t many of us there supporting Trump at the time (this was June of last year remember), and I sure as helI wouldn’t support it.

    For all I know, it was Patterico what did it, to get rid of the drunken spamming of dead threads he engaged in during his feud with Jeff. Its as good a theory as Trump supporters did it…

    LBascom (c230be)


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