Big Reality Show Reveal of Trump Medical Records…Won’t Happen After All
If viewers of Donald Trump’s appearance on “The Dr. Oz Show” are expecting a big reveal about Trump’s physical fitness, they are going to be disappointed. Oz will not be reviewing the results of Trump’s recent physical, campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks told CNNMoney Wednesday morning.
That contradicts a claim made on Fox News Tuesday.
The Trump campaign now says it will likely release later this week information based on a physical exam Trump underwent last week.
Trump will be talking with Oz about his physical activity, dietary habits, and broader health-related issues.
It’s pretty simple. Trump won’t release his medical records. He’s hiding something. Hillary won’t release her medical records. She’s hiding something. Trump won’t release his tax returns. He’s hiding something.
You can dance and bob and weave and yell “SQUIRREL!” as much as you like, but these people are hiding something. Period.
P.S. With Trump, I figure what he’s hiding, among other things, is years of prescriptions of a drug that sort of rhymes with the first word of Niagara Falls. (If you try to say that word in comments, your comment will probably go straight to spam and the program may decide not to publish any more of your comments. Commenter beware.)
Ding.
Patterico (bcf524) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:29 am“…rhymes with the first word of Niagara Falls.”
He would be proud of this.
AZ Bob (d6a3a9) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:38 amperhaps but the dragnet has been released, as per chisholm’s orders,
https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/776039887661248512
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:46 amTrump said he took a medical examination last week – he had a check-up – and seemed to be saying he would release the results of that examination at the time of the Dr. Oz show. The show is being taped today for broadcast tomorrow.
Now what – there’s something that turned up in that examination he’d rather not release?
He’ll only release good numbers, I guess, not bad ones.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:46 amDr. Oz said (paraphrasing) he’s not going to probe and ask Trumpp anything he doesn’t want to say, or discuss Hillary’s health.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:47 amit seems you want to focus on a laser, on what they want you to focus on,
http://mattforney.com/dnc-leak-insider-trading/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:49 amYou think he’s hiding something?
Maybe.
I think it’s part of his deal-making. He is holding back every card to force Hillary to play one of hers.
Either way, Pence or Kaine should be all right as president.
Maybe.
Patricia (5fc097) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:50 amBig damn deal if its Niagara or Borealis. At least his pareja matches the quality of the girls in blue nighties in the commercials. It would have to be something along the lines of multiple blood-pressure/cardiovascular medications.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:51 amCue Emily Litella.
A.S. (23bc66) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:54 ami love him he’s a ROCK STAR
nobody ever goes hey hold up there Mr. Maroon 5 guy we’re gonna need to see your physical results hell no
(maybe if he were a diseased stumblepig with the stench of death wafting off of him it would be different)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:59 amHillary will screw the country without the help of a little blue pill.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:00 amThere’s a couple differences in Trump not releasing his medical records VS Hillary not releasing her medical records.
One, there aren’t questions about his health. He’s full of energy and vigor. (I know, I know, team #Never Trump will say he’s full of something else, too!)
But there are tons of questions about Hillary’s health. Because she can’t remember anything, and she keeps collapsing onto the ground like an Italian soccer player after being gently touched by an opponent in the penalty area during a World Cup game.
Also, the left wing media will try to make a mountain out of a mole removal, if such exists in Trump’s records. If it turns out he takes blood pressure medication, they’ll spin it as if he may have a heart attack at any moment.
Whereas, Hillary could have a brain tumor, yet the media will spin it as nothing more serious than a paper cut.
This is the same media that sent an army of reporters to Wasilla, Alaska to find out what books Sarah Palin’s children had checked out from the local library. But Barack’s mentor/Minister was on video screaming about God damning the United States of KKK, and the media collectively yawned.
So, it’s not in Trump’s interest to reveal his medical records.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:11 amTrump’s and Hillary’s health are not equivalent questions.
Trump’s not the one who went limp and had to be carried into an escape module.
tom swift (bc56fe) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:14 amtom swift/13:
I thought Patterico was alleging that Trump *was* the one who went limp.
JRM (de6363) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:18 amYeah, hiding from #nevertrump the people who tried to make his hands appear small implying another limb would be small.
You people aren’t just deplorable you’re beneath contempt.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:19 amPatrick plays his “NeverTrump” card.
I have read, and have never seen it, that the “Dr Oz” thing is controversial, as are many media doctor shows.
The other media doc got his show canceled for saying something about Hillary’s health.
Bob Dole pretty much regularized the V drug. I doubt it would be an issue.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:28 amMr. Trump is hiding…
HOW AWESOME HE IS!!!
he’s gonna be our new president after the food stamp one 🙂
plus it’s National Cream Filled Donut Day!!!!
i’m so happy i’m literally crying
this is a good day
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:29 amAnd here we go again. Patterico, how can you stand it?
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:50 amIt’s also the day Francis Scott Key wrote the (now discredited) Star Spangled Banner in 1814.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:56 amHere’s the guy who took the video of Hillary! falling.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cF3tIi5WCxM/V9danGYuE_I/AAAAAAABB_8/bvTuPa3AyeIorJw-_v-a3aev1n7G-jNsgCLcB/s1600/1%2B1%2B1ninetymiles986w21v3ritto1_1280-905.jpg
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:58 amSOS, DD.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:00 amMeanwhile, Powell dishes on the Clintons BIG TIME.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:03 amMr. Jester given what we don’t know about food stamp’s lurid past and all of stinkypig’s nefarious pig-business
i’m sure you’ll agree these lacunae in Mr. Trump’s affairs are but minor trifles in comparison
have a nutella donut picklehead and find some inner peace
a dark chapter is closing in failmerica’s story
we’re on the cusp of New Adventures!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:06 amthis is vaguely terrifying
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:18 amI don’t think so. That’s chemically-induced virility. Not really the sort of thing for a 70 YO orange-haired man to brag about.
Bill H (971e5f) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:19 amGood news but Ohio wont matter in 2024 and beyond. The real fight is for North Carolina – thats going to be the swing state for the next quarter century.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:24 amA bit of cherry picking there.
Yes, LA Times/USC Dornsife might be right. For example, they might be picking up voters who don’t want to tell others they’re supporting a highly controversial, even demonized candidate, Trump—whose supporters have been violently attacked no less. So similar to the Brexit effect (Brexit down 10 points on election day, wins anyway).
But notice the word “might.” There just is no way to tell if pollsters are weighting right until after election day / exit polling.
The RCP average is probably more useful to look at rather than one poll weighted more in Trump’s favor vs. the others.
There the trend favors Trump. Hillary is down to a 2 point head-to-head lead and a 1.8 point lead in the four-way matchup.
More interesting to me, is the favorability rating. Hillary was leading by 17+ points less than three weeks ago and is now leading by only 6.5.
The trend favors trump, but Hillary may still be ahead. And, trends can easily reverse.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:28 amI wonder if the LA Times logo is left out or minimized when initial invites are generated and sent to prospective participants. Its a reminder to me that Los Angeles’ alt weeklies (LA Weekly, LA Curbed) are oftentimes to the right of the LA Times on several issues.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:47 amhttp://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/14/several-doctors-express-concerns-clintons-pneumonia-diagnosis-treatment/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3789248/The-Clinton-health-cover-revealed-Doctor-tells-Hillary-kept-blood-clot-SECRET-staff-nurse-travel-plain-clothes-administer-drugs.html
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:52 amDNC LEAK: DEMOCRATS ADMIT OBAMA’S POLICIES HELP CREATE ISIS.
Analysis: True.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/243933/
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:58 amPost15: The reality is that ” Captain Ahab ” and his quiver of harpoons are shrinking.
mike191 (bf652f) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:00 amDISPATCHES FROM YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL BETTERS: “LOL—The geniuses at DNC realized their emails were hacked, then EMAILED new passwords to everyone…”
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/243938/
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:08 am“One, there aren’t questions about his health. He’s full of energy and vigor.”
– Cruz Supporter
What do you mean, “there aren’t questions about his health”? That’s almost as dumb as saying there aren’t questions about his taxes. Have you seen those golf pictures? Trump’s a 70 year old American male who looks like ten pounds of sh*t stuffed into a five pound sack. Of course there are questions about his health.
This is obvious to anyone willing to do the analysis.
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:17 amStrike that last post, your honor, poorly phrased…
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:23 amThere are questions about his health, there are questions about her health. Jaysus.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:24 amMeanwhile, Mrs. Bill Clinton’s campaign is imploding, DNC chair Brazile is trying to steer people away from reading hacked DNC emails, 0bama admits his miscalculation on Iran, questions arise about his proxy Iran’s use of the $1B+ to fund terrorist activities, etc… you know… Real News.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:29 am‘Did Clinton bring her personal DOCTOR to 9/11 memorial where she collapsed? Woman seen ‘checking Hillary’s pulse’ may be her physician’
1. That is Lisa Bardack, Hillary’s personal physician.
2. The Daily Mail misrepresents what she is doing. That is not “taking her pulse” (relevant with an infectious disease, among other things), that is Hillary squeezing Lisa Bardack, MD’s fingers. It is a neurological test.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:36 amI don’t think he’s hiding anything. I think he gets people talking about health and will then release…. he’s been weird that way, it’s some sort of persuasion thing – get people focused on a topic…
Still think he’s a sleaze but out of the 4 candidates, he’s the only one that i can vote for… i will not pass on voting.
Carlos (bea886) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:37 amBill Clinton says Hillary frequently gets weak and faints. Mainstream media helpfully edit that part out, without acknowledging the mid-sentence edit.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:38 amLeviticus,
Trump’s full of energy and vigor.
On the other hand, look at Bill Clinton; he’s the same age as Trump, yet he looks like he’s anticipating the 4 o’clock blue plate special at Shady Acres Retirement Home.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:38 amHey, anybody up for a game of lawn bowling, afterwards?
Winner gets a free enema!
In Wikileaks-revealed email, Hillary supporter Sheldon Whitehouse says Hillary, “could barely climb the podium steps.” She didn’t have pneumonia then.
Any chance that you’ll drop your position of taking Team Clinton at their word about her health, that her problem is pneumonia?
She has either a cardiovascular or neurological disorder—almost certainly the latter, although that could be caused by or exacerbated by the former. But the latter, almost for sure.
Any pneumonia is likely to be caused by Parkinson’s Disease treatment with Levadopa (L-dopa) leading to problems swallowing. This explains Hillary’s fear of drinking ordinary, non-thickened, water that her “in the dark” low-to-mid-level staff talked about—because it leads to asphyxiation pneumonia, the most common cause of death for Parkinson’s patients. It also causes what looks like “seizures.” However, both of these symptoms are are actually dyskinesia, a consequence of Parkinson’s L-dopa treatment.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:48 am*aspiration pneumonia, but that truly is a Freudian slip because they’re functionally identical
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:49 amThis is obvious to anyone willing to do the analysis.
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride, as my mother used to say.
I would say, “Nice try” Leviticus but it wasn’t.
Trump will eventually release his taxes and health records.
Denver guy that woman is a PR flack who works for Clinton. Her name is Falvo.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:55 amWanna bet?
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:02 amOh.
I stand corrected, on that point.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:02 amThe other points stand. Hillary’s obviously sick, and has been for a long time.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:04 amActually, come to think of it, this post is a straw man. Trump never said he’d reveal his “medical records” on the show. He said he’d reduce the results of his recent physical.
And now he has.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:13 amWe are teh bastards we’ve been waiting for, Carlos.
Entonces!
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:27 amFantastic, Trump’s campaign shoot’s itself in the foot over nothing. Bunch of smart guys and gals in that office.
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:28 amThey didn’t shoot themselves in the foot. They raised a bit of drama, then released the results, as promised.
Publicity, man. This is largely why Trump is the nominee, and will be the next President. If you don’t understand that, no skin off my nose, with all due respect.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:30 amNow address the fact that this post is a straw man, Sean.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:31 amFantastic, Trump’s campaign shoot’s itself in the foot over nothing. Bunch of smart guys and gals in that office.
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:28 am
How ’bout them Dems, Sean!?!?
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:31 am“Trump will eventually release his taxes and health records.”
– Mike K
You take this on faith, I’m guessing. Because of Trump’s track record of doing what he says he will do.
Besides, don’t you know that he’s under audit???
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:38 amDefinitely. Note how they won the nomination and will now go on to win the Presidency against the Clinton Machine.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:38 amIf he does, he’ll do it when he believes it’s most politically advantageous … not when you want him to do it, Leviticus.
Have you noticed he likes to create suspense, controversy, and drama?
?
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:40 amHave a hard time comprehending facts in the thin air Denver? When a spox says Trump isn’t going to do something he said he did then it’s news, not a straw man. The fact that Trump ultimately did what he said he was going to do is nice, but then why the unforced error giving the media all day to start the narrative that something is wrong and Trump is hiding it? How about you talk about the apparent incompetence of this campaign?
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:51 amWith Trump, I figure what he’s hiding, among other things, is years of prescriptions of a drug that sort of rhymes with the first word of Niagara Falls.
Speculation.
Fact: Ohhhhhh, you mean the stuff not only advertised by, but admitted user in trials for the drug, GOP Presidential candidate and beloved former U.S. Senator from Kansas– and ‘Niagara’ pitch man– BOB DOLE.
‘Niagara’ Falls?’ No, it rises, for Bob Dole… ‘Slowly he turned, step, by step….’ And Elizabeth keeps that ‘Mona Lisa’ smile.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:52 amOh is this going to be one of those schoolyard, “oh yeah, but those guys did it first!” arguments? What are y’all, 8 years old?
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:52 amSean, I don’t know if you are dumb or a liar.
The post refers to Trump having promised to release his “medical records” on the Dr. Oz show. Trump did no such thing. He promised to release the results (only) of his recent physical.
His winning, historic campaign, that has all the momentum?
Bannon is doing a fantastic job. Best campaign manager yet.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:56 amISIS is slaughtering American spies like sheep, yet the #NeverTrump crowd wants to talk about Trump’s cholesterol reading.
Winning!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:00 pm@62.- Ford Motor Company announced today it’s planning to move all small car production down to Mexico over the next two years.
JR should get a wicked woody over that.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:04 pmUh huh, so no one in the know was reporting that Trump would release his records… https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/775674122802257920
I’m curious, what are you basing this “he’s winning” rhetoric on? The same polls Trump supporters told us were trash a couple of weeks ago? Not that I disagree with your premise, I just find it hilarious that like Trump, his rabid supporters will use what ever they can at that moment to boost his image.
So it was #NeverTrumpers that forced Trump to go on Dr. Oz, or used a mind control drug on his spox to create controversy where there was none? What ever happened to holding candidates responsible for their mistakes? What makes Trump so special that no matter how much he backtracks, pushes liberal policies, or screws up it’s somehow the #NeverTrumpers fault?
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:10 pmThe schedule, pace, time on and time off the campaign trail- and basic observation by the public of the way these two candidates have been ‘campaigning’ — or not ‘campaigning’– is a ‘medical record’ unto itself.
Compare the two.
When JR starts coughing for weeks on end and begins collapsing while climbing into vehicles and airplanes is the month he should release his a full, comprehensive medical history.
Maudie? Given her months of stumbling and hacking, she’s past due.
JR’s schedule today, alone, is enough to give Maudie a relapse of….’pneumonia.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:17 pmHey, Trump could be using a drug that rhymes with the name of an old-style greasy hair tonic instead of one that rhymes with the first name of a bi-national water plunge site.
John (a4c2a4) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:20 pmLawyers tell innocent suspects to say nothing to the cops and prosecutors.
Nothing, rien, nichts, de nada, fcuk all, zero, stumm bleiben, stfu.
Why? Because any minor error or admission will be used against you.
Goes ten times for giving anything to the media.
And cops and prosecutors are honest, mostly.
Fred Z (bb324a) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:29 pmFor those that cannot find a difference between Hillary and Trump, I offer this analogy:
Hillary is Cthulhu. Evil incarnate. Cthulhu wants everyone as Its slaves, happy that It hasn’t flayed their souls yet.
Trump is Godzilla. Not evil, just randomly destructive. He stomps around crushing tings (particularly Japanese saralymen) and knocking things down, but so long as you stay out of his way, it’s survivable.
Clearly Godzilla is the lesser evil. Vote Godzilla!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:29 pmSean,
Stop with the victim status.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:30 pmYou have a choice; Hillary or Trump.
And here’s the kicker — whether or not you vote for one of them, one of them is still going to become your next President.
This election sucks™
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:30 pmCheck your newsfeed
Bea (162723) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:33 pmSupporter,
I’m not a victim, Trump is a terrible candidate and I have no problem calling him out on his crap as I did McCain or Romney.
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:44 pmYou’re wrong, I have a third and even a fourth choice, it’s just not choices you who subscribe to binary theory like or want to admit exist. But even if you were right, and you’re not, it doesn’t matter as I live in Texas so you don’t have to worry about little old me tipping the electoral scales.
And here’s the kicker, they both suck and will bring about much damage to the country, only problem is one will be opposed by half the country because she’s evil, while the other will have a mandate to squash dissent while enjoying a mostly compliant congress.
FoxNews right now…
“MADE-UP MOCKERY? Videos show Trump may not have targeted disabled reporter after all”
Jeez.
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:46 pmColonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 10:29 am
They’re trying to get Republicans to apply the exclusionary rule.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:47 pm65. Yeah, but JR could get “torched” by an ex or a staffer..and the firearms are so much more efficient than in March 1980.
urbanleftbehind (0d219b) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:53 pmSean, Sean …
Trump will have Chris Christie as AG.
Hillary will have Loretta Lynch.
Even in a state like Texas where they’re still ambivalent about jailing drunk drivers who kill people on the highways, Chris Christie is considered to be a cut above Loretta Lynch.
John Bolton has already said he’d be happy to serve as Secretary of State for Trump. I don’t know who Hillary will choose, but it’ll be somebody pretty terrible.
Ultimately, the people chosen to run the agencies and bureaucracies is a big deal.
It is a binary choice, because Joe Blow of the Constipation Party isn’t going to win a single state.
Trump is less left wing than Hillary. That’s all we need to know.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 12:57 pmI was listening to Mark Davis this morning and he said something similar to this, but followed it up with “you know there might be a line Trump can cross [speaking about his new government entitlement/maternity leave plan] that will cause me pause, but at the end of the day I’ll crawl on broken glass and praise the almighty that I have him to vote for, because he’s not Hillary Clinton.”
That sentiment is the reason why #NeverTrump exists. The fact that so many of you are willing to allow this narcissist leftist to get away with anything so long as his name isn’t Hillary Clinton is far more dangerous than an embattled and opposed administration. You’re setting the table, by marginalizing any criticism of Trump and demonizing allies with genuine concerns, for a President who will enter the White House with a self-imposed mandate to do what he wants when he wants and in the manner he wants because his supporters have shown absolutely no ability to call him out or hold him accountable.
You want to avoid someone terrible, then stop enabling this man when he makes mistakes and blaming it on others. Otherwise Trump will begin his 4 years with a cheering crowd of liberals in congress only willing to debate him on the size and scope of the government overreach he will bring, and God help us if he’s successful in replacing more freedom caucus members (Trump’s been pretty silent on that matter while the GOPe snipe true Conservatives one by one), or can get Cruz replaced with a lackey. They’ll be no opposition then.
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:11 pmSean,
Again, one of these two clowns is going to become the next President.
Which one is it going to be?
Saying they both “suck” doesn’t exclude the reality that one of these two clowns is going to become the next President. Which one is it going to be?
Voting for Mickey Mouse or for Joe Six Pack of the Constipation Party is an avoidance of the question, “Which of the two clowns is going to become the next President?“
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:27 pmYou take this on faith, I’m guessing. Because of Trump’s track record of doing what he says he will do.
Besides, don’t you know that he’s under audit???
The NeverTrump crowd is interesting. Lefties, like you, are no surprise. You would choke down the treasonous, lying, dying Hillary like the Democrats in Boston re-elected J Michael Curley as Mayor while he was in prison. That’s what “Yellow Dog Democrat” means.
The NeverTrumpers who allege they are Republicans are another matter altogether.
Some say they are conservatives, like the NRO guys who fired Derbyshire for telling the truth about race.
Some are diehard Cruz supporters who disdain the “uneducated” Trump supporters. Like our host.
I can’t believe that he recognizes himself as a Hillary supporter with all the “Deplorable” biases.
I work with and know a lot of well educated people. They are divided, in my own,experience, between those who will vote for Trump (the vast majority), those who will not vote for Hillary (one of my kids who is a lefty) and brain dead left wingers (like another of my kids who thinks Gavin Newsome is just wonderful.)
I doubt Trump will win California. Too many illegals voting. But I am thinking he may do a lot better than all the anti-Trumpers think. A lot better,
As for his tax and medical stuff. Have you ever been audited ? Leviticus I doubt. I was audited every year for ten years and they never got any more money out of me. My accountant finally wrote a letter accusing the IRS of harassing me and they quit. Trump is a master at PR. He will pick the right time.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:32 pmSean,
The next AG will likely be either Chris Christie or Loretta Lynch.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:37 pmWhich do you prefer?
That’s the ballgame, right there, bud.
Sean, stop enabling Trump=allow Hillary to win.
No thanks.
And this is another silly post, attacking Trump because Hillary is obviously vulnerable in her unhealthiness. There is no requirement anyone release any medical/tax/schoolastic/or any other records. If a candidate has a debilitating condition that raises questions about their ability to fulfill the demands of the office, which Hillary does, then maybe there’s an ethical issue in withholding that info, but even that is not a requirement. It is a consideration for the voters.
And again, in this case, nevertrumpers are straining a gnat and swallowing a camel.
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:39 pmis this going to be one of those schoolyard, “oh yeah, but those guys did it first!” arguments? What are y’all, 8 years old?
Sean (1d5074) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:52 am
No, Sean, not a grade-school taunt, I just asked you a question: I’m keenly interested in your opinion. How are the Dem nominee, her campaign and the Democrats in general performing this election cycle?
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/14/2016 @ 1:43 pmUh-oh, another meme falling apart, making never Trumpets look foolish in retrospect…
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/14/trump-supporter-asheville-exclusive-attorney-accused-made-whole-thing/
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:05 pmNo, #NeverTrump exists because a whole bunch of folks are butthurt that the populist, grass-roots groundswell is actually happening, and their favorite “conservative” isn’t riding that wave. This is the political event that they have waited for and have used as their excuse for sitting out presidential (and other) elections since the 80’s. Now that it is here, they think they own it somehow, and are throwing a hissy fit that would put a three year old brat in Toy-R-Us to shame. Funny how, no matter how much you want to, you really can’t control a spontaneous uprising. You can get on board, or you can get crushed, just like all the other opponents.
I don’t think so. I find your willingness to aid and abet Hillary in her quest for the presidency to be much more dangerous (and stupid) because you know what she will do and how she will do it. All you have about Trump is made-up scenarios with tanks in the streets. And haven’t we’ve had an “embattled and opposed administration” for almost 6 years? Has the progressive agenda been slowed down in any significant way? Oh, do you think the putzes in DC with (R) after their name would suddenly grow a spine and stop Hillary in her tracks? That is so precious.
prowlerguy (fa36d8) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:15 pmI will not vote for Hillary Clinton. She is a national disgrace, an indictment of our system, and an indictment of our electorate.
Your turn, Mike K. Show us how you’ve transcended the bonds of your masters.
Or would you honestly have us believe that “a vast majority” of “well-educated people” are going to vote for Donald Trump?
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:15 pmAll I can say is that it’s a lousy year to be a Secret Service agent. The threats rate a “9” and the protectees rate a “1”.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:36 pmTrump is a great leader.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:40 pmYou are a troll, Denver Guy.
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:44 pmHorribly. Thank the Lord. However Trump appears to be following Sun Tzu’s advice of “To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.” He could have a commanding lead if he learned to apologize for his past actions and statements, work to bring in disaffected voters from the right instead of the left, and stop creating unforced errors.
Sean (41ed1e) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:45 pmRight, because when the dust clears you’ll be in a great position to oppose Trump on any leftist agenda he wants to implement to sooth his battered ego if you just let him do whatever he wants during the campaign. Do you not realize that you’re creating the same blank canvas around Trump that we mocked leftists of creating around Obama in 08?
Sean (41ed1e) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:47 pmI thought it was the Supreme Court that was ballgame. When did those goalposts shift? Or rather, when did the new goalposts get built?
Sean (41ed1e) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:48 pmAt this rate, the DNC might be researching overdose quantities or ballistics from the Foster care.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:48 pmYou’ve been politically wrong this whole election, Leviticus. I’m not interested in your analysis. Perhaps a “troll” is less the person who is right, if you think about it logically.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:49 pmPlease provide my quote where I said anything about tanks in the street.
Also, if you think the NeverTrump group was waiting on baited breath to be a part of a ground swell of new government entitlements then you got me, you know us so well. BTW I love the whole you’re with us or you’re against us vibe, totally not totalitarian in tone. Also, please tell me where disagreeing with Trump = aiding Hillary. When does the idiot candidate bear some responsibility for the stupid things he says that aid his opponent? Never? Is that it?
You know Trump was partially right about shooting someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any supporters. I say partially right because I bet dollars to donuts the only supporters he’d actually lose are the rabid leftist Bernie fans that would only be appalled that he touched a gun. But they’d be back voting for him eventually, because, you know, he’s not Hillary.
Sean (41ed1e) — 9/14/2016 @ 2:54 pmA prescription for a vigorous victor who values the vivaciousness of various vixens, vitiates villains with valor, voices with vim and vigor, and validates veracity?
What could it be?
ras (85e63e) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:06 pm“You’ve been politically wrong this whole election, Leviticus.”
– Denver Guy
I’ve been right about politics in this country for the past six years. The two-person system is toy gun that politicians wave around to convince a bunch of potted-plant Americans that they’re witnessing an offer they can’t refuse. A bunch of people are starting to realize that “No” is always a third way. A bunch of other people, like Elephant Stone and Hoagie, continue to insist on a false dichotomy in order to justify their own surrender. And a small group of true-blue Trump supporters, like you, are just happy to have a big strong sugar daddy to protect them from women and brown people.
I abjure it, as happyfeet would say.
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:07 pmSean, I’ll be in the same position to oppose president Trump as I was to oppose W. Bush and his leftist agendas. I didn’t like a lot of what W did, but I voted for him again in 2004 because Kerry was way more awful.
Trump is anything but a blank slate. He’s been in the public eye for longer than the Clinton’s. What you don’t get is most of the things you criticise him for I like. I like that he speaks bluntly, and doesn’t apologise upon demand for speaking the truth. I like that he is genuine and plays himself instead of pandering for “disaffected” voters from the right that have proudly taken the label “nevertrump”, signalling they won’t support him regardless. I like that he’s a fighter that counter punches when attacked instead of doing focus groups to figure out a list of scripted talking points. And I like he drives girly men bug fu€k nuts. You boys are an endless source of amusement.
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:10 pmNonsense. Trump will destroy the Democratic party.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:11 pmSean,
It doesn’t sound like you’re going to answer the question, “Who do you prefer to be the next AG; Chris Christie or Loretta Lynch?“
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:17 pmWhat does “No” mean?
And stop with the “women and brown people” shtick. It only works for leftists since they hate men an white people.
Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:22 pmCool. Just got two tickets to the Trump rally in CO Springs on Saturday.
The Denver Post is reporting that momentum is shifting in Trump’s (and Gary Johnson’s) way in CO.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:35 pmI’ve said for years that every election needs a “none of the above” option on the ballot. If it won, the election would be re-held with new candidates.
I’m quite serious. I think an occasional jurisdiction has even tried something like this. Sure would be nice this time, wouldn’t it?
Patrick, huzzaba a web poll: would you vote for “None Of The Above” if it were leading in the opinion polls?
ras (85e63e) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:37 pmthe dems have become become almost omnipotent in their programs, while the republicans are a weak rump, yes there’s no difference between them.
https://twitter.com/MiltonWolfMD?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:49 pmYou have a great, inspirational leader like Trump to protect, transform, and reinvigorate the nation, stirring it to glory, and you Cruz people are whining about none of the above. It’s funny as heck.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:50 pmthe uniparty does exist, and that has been the bane of the only true opposition which was the tea party, which was why it was smothered like mcmurphy, occupy was the potted plant that soros seeded,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 4:08 pmjust in time for her first day of high school my little niece-person cleared up her acne with nevertrump ointment
this was in minnesota in early fall, back in 2016
she went on to become a surgeon – saved a lot of lives – but ultimately devoted the balance of her career to teaching
You’d ask her why and she’d say cause of how President Trump taught us all so much. So much about liberty and constitution and childcare deducting. I wanted to be like him. A teacher.
I’d say well lil pickle you think you’re living up to his example?
And she’d always look very serious. Time will tell uncle happy. Time will tell.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 4:18 pmTrump is anything but a blank slate.
He’s an Etch-A-Sketch. Don’t like what you have? Shake it up and get something else. Repeatedly.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/14/2016 @ 4:29 pm@107.He’s an Etch-A-Sketch
No. That would be Sir Willard Of Romney Marsh.
‘On the Southern Coast of England; there’s a legend people tell…’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 4:37 pmYou have a great, inspirational leader like Trump to protect, transform, and reinvigorate the nation, stirring it to glory, and you Cruz people are whining about none of the above. It’s funny as heck.
Even funnier is figuring out how a Canadian would be one of your “Cruz people,” since I clearly have more opinions than votes in the matter. But perhaps you have a special way of seeing things.
ras (85e63e) — 9/14/2016 @ 4:56 pm@45 If wishes were horses, beggars would ride, as my mother used to say.
And as my late father used to say: ‘Balls, said the queen. If I had’em I’d be the king.‘
These ‘powering through’ excuses are the height of selfishness because ‘Typhoid Mary’ does it for herself, and nobody else. And honestly, how much ‘hard work’ does she really do? She’s driven every place by other people, flown al over by others, has everything done for her– from cooked meals to dialing phones and all she has to do is stand up and read a teleprompter– and in the case of Wall Street, collect a hefty check for it.
Patterico knows hard work. Everybody posting on this blog knows hard work. And none of us and can take nearly as much time off as she does to recharge.
She’s not up to the CIC job. She will be denied.
This is the beginning of the end for Maudie.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:03 pmThat would be Sir Willard Of Romney Marsh.
Odd that I know what Romney would do in a given situation, but Trump appears to be a random actor.
Deport becomes don’t deport.
Reduce the burdens on business becomes 6 weeks mandatory family leave.
Jail the abortionists becomes Planned Parenthood is Good
Romney is even more consistent on Obamacare, since he never ever supported Single Payer.
But thanks for playing.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:05 pmLower Manhattan bristles with surveillance cameras.
So where is the security camera footage of Maudie going ‘jello’ from other angles?
All America has seen is the video taken, by chance and from behind, by a passer-by.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:08 pmOr would you honestly have us believe that “a vast majority” of “well-educated people” are going to vote for Donald Trump?
I referred to people I know but I think a lot more than you estimate will do so.
We will both know by November 9 and polls are useless this year because of the hostility to Trump voters by the left.
The latest incident was a staged fall by a 69 year old woman with an oxygen tank who said a Trump rally attendee “cold cocked” her.
The trouble is the guy she accused and for whom the Asheville police issued a warrant, is a 73 year old blind engineer who plans to go back to Asheville and answer the charges, then sue her for libel.
A very nasty year.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:14 pmDevastating Typhoon Leaves Some 140,000 North Koreans In Need Of Aid
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:17 pm“Your turn, Mike K. Show us how you’ve transcended the bonds of your masters.”
“Robot Overlords” in the 2012 cycle… and now “bonds of your masters”… significant mental issues including a fixation on dominant figures.
“dominance, submission… radios appear…”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:18 pm@114. Maudie has a suggestion: drink heavy water. It’s yummy in an Atomic Cocktail!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:19 pmI’m really glad that “Robot Overlords” jab has stuck with you all these years, Haiku. It was appropriate.
Leviticus (611108) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:32 pmYou’re nothing if not consistent.
Leviticus (611108) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:33 pmlike I say, it’s a cookbook,
http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/09/13/bring-washington-bureaucracy-prepares-resist-trump/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:33 pmdoctor mike all the energy is on one side
even the nevertrumpers, their enthusiasm collapsed when their stinkypig did
it’s like when you kill the head vampire
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:33 pmYou have a great, inspirational leader like Trump to protect, transform, and reinvigorate the nation, stirring it to glory,
History is full of such men. Benito, Adolf, Tse-Tung, Vladimir, Iosif, Saddam are some of the recent examples, but they go back well into human history, from Nimrod on.
Fortunately, I don’t think Trump is great or inspiring, and has no idea of how to protect, transform, reinvigorate, this country, so we don’t need to compare him to that list.
But I don’t want my country returned to glory, whatever you actually mean by that. I want my country returned to sanity and prosperity.
But neither Trump nor Clinton will do that.
Trump, if he does what he claims he will do, will make the US weaker, the economy worse because of his policies. And blow up the national debt to even bigger size. That ought to bother the zerohedge crowd, if no one else.
Kishnevi (18dae1) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:38 pmwell godwin violation on the 50 yard jeff, he’s closer to silvio, in fact he probably adapted his playbook, they’ve been comparing republicans to nazis for at least 50 years, actually going back to truman in 48.
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:41 pmJust watched panelist A.B. Stoddard (The Hill) talking about Hillary Clinton “powering through the weekend”, Brett Baer caught it, kinda sorta called her out on it and she claimed she was “quoting the Clinton Campaign”. I watched it. She clearly wasn’t.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:43 pmA “jab”, Leviticus?!?!. That was more of an amusing limp-wristed punch on your part. Carry on!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:46 pmDCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:08 pm
There probably are none.
At most, the camera watching the entranceway of the closest building.
My total time in New York being four days back in 1971, I have no idea of what building that might be…or if she was on a part of the sidewalk with no doors nearby.
And such film would be the property of the building owner or security company that owns the camera. Who might be Hillary voters. Or might simply not want to let random criminals know what can and can not be seen by their camera.
Kishnevi (18dae1) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:49 pmNarciso, read my second paragraph again. I said Trump was not like them.
Your Silvio comparison works for me.
Kishnevi (18dae1) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:52 pmsorry about that, vis a vis, the transnationalists of prodi and d’alema and to a large degree, renzi, silvio was pro western, this was why the later umberto eco and camilleri, couldn’t stand him,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:55 pmI was walking my dog, and we passed by a local park where a youth soccer team was practicing. A kid fell down.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/14/2016 @ 5:56 pmHe obviously must have pneumonia.
so in point of fact the records were released,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:04 pm“doctor mike all the energy is on one side
even the nevertrumpers, their enthusiasm collapsed when their stinkypig did
it’s like when you kill the head vampire”
Happyfeet confirmed for James Woods alt account.
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:05 pmDCSCA @112
I posted earlier on the Pneuemonia thread (which seems to be dromant)
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:06 pmIt is youth “futbol”, possibly something 100 times worse depending on the reach of the league.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:08 pmTrump/Pence
mg (31009b) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:11 pmEven Know Your Meme Knows Something’s Up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96lAHygeIU
P-P-P-POWER THROUGH!
Note that #NeverTrumpers who resemble these talking heads too closely may find it prudent to hide themselves when the Day Of The WoodChipper arrives.
Dystopia Max (76803a) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:12 pmDenver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:11 pm
He might destroy the Republican Party, but I don’t see him destroying the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party – or the Hillary Clinton campaign and friends anyway – doesn’t want to see the Republican Party destroyed – they’s like to see it reduced to a permanent minority, small and despised enough so that it can never win, but too big for someone else to win who is not a Democrat.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:12 pm102. ras (85e63e) — 9/14/2016 @ 3:37 pm
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:32 pmA win for JR.
Poor Maudie.
If only ‘Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman’, was still on the air. She could have done a sit down on set with Jane Seymour and talked women’s health, 1880’s-style, over rattlesnake stew, cornbread and tea. If it would ever have occurred to her.
For Americans don’t want to be governed. They wish to be entertained.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:45 pm@131- There may not have been camera facing that way. But given the locale, it’s a good bet there were. Most media outlets would want that, Sammy. Especially if it offered up different angles– like if it caught her eyes rolling back in her head. The firms, institutions and businesses in the Wall Street area likely have something. It’s just a matter of greasing the right palms to get it. Or those same firms may want to surpress it for their own reasons.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 6:53 pm@125– Unlikely, K. Not in that area around the 9/11 – Wall Street locale nowadays.
Even years ago, before 9/11, when I’d be down in that part of the city, the place had cameras everywhere– monitoring traffic, in and outside banks, on buildings and businesses– even around the hotels… the post office., there, too. Even the smaller businesses.
Look at how much they captured just with the footage of the Boston Marathon incident from basic security footage.
It likely exists. It’s just a matter of tracking it down and greasing the right palms.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:00 pmThat 69-year old b***h should go to prison.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:29 pmTrump may need 100mg of assistance even with Melania… there is no amount of assistance that could he with Hillary… my guess is that for one month Bill Clinton uses more Vitamin V for the bimbos he is dicking in her house than Trump needs in a year
steveg (5508fb) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:10 pm“help with Hillary”
steveg (5508fb) — 9/14/2016 @ 8:15 pmNever had a thing for Chairman Mao, so its not gonna make it with anyone anyhow
All Hillary’s dicking is dishwasher safe.
Pinandpuller (167c88) — 9/14/2016 @ 9:32 pmFor anyone who says Hillary doesn’t have health problems that go far beyond pneumonia, including her 9/11 collapsing (which was neurological, not pneumonia/dehydration), Mr. Wolf tears those thoughts apart.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/14/2016 @ 11:13 pmAnd if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:15 amYou ain’t gonna win when running a fainting cow
There are plenty of people who have noted Trump’s uncharacteristic reluctance to jump on Hillary’s health problems and taken that as a sign that Trump himself has some health problems he’d rather not have to talk about. An alternative explanation is that Trump doesn’t want to talk about Hillary’s health problems for fear he’ll let slip something that indicates he knows all about her health problems.
Remember, when Trump first got into the race he said it was his good friend Bill Clinton that he’d had a long talk with who’d convinced him to run. What exactly did Bill tell Donald that convinced him to run? “My wife has Parkinson’s and she won’t make it to November”? A lot of speculation that Trump sure did seem like a Democrat’s caricature of a Republican, not a real Republican at all, and maybe Trump was a stalking horse to get Hillary elected. Maybe it was the other way around – Hillary was a stalking horse to get Trump elected. And the funniest part about it is that the Republicans are the ones desperately trying to get a Democrat elected because they fear a Democrat might get elected.
Jerryskids (3308c1) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:19 amUnder that scenario that jerryskids has laid out, which mob reacts more swiftly to bring duped – Trump Nation or the Bernie Bots?
urbanleftbehind (365b0d) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:04 amYou can say a lot of things about Trump, but this ongoing NeverTrump claim that “He’s a Democrat” is erroneous. This is Trump’s actual history of party registration:
Since he registered as a Republican after moving in 1987, it seems likely he was also one before that. So he’s been a Republican most of his life. The eight year period he was a Democrat is the basis for NeverTrumps continually asserting that there are two Democrats running.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:32 am@Gerald A: The eight year period he was a Democrat is the basis for NeverTrumps continually asserting that there are two Democrats running.
Counting the Libertarian candidate, there’s 3. Counting Jill Stein, 4.
I’m happy to count Trump as a D running as R, based on the positions he takes. But I hold all the candidates to that standard, and I don’t fool myself that there are any in the race, or that some True Conservative would be winning right now when they couldn’t even win with Republicans.
Because that is the fact. Conservatism could not even get a majority of Republicans this year. You go to election with the electorate you have. Half a loaf, or 1/8 loaf, is better than -10.
But if people continue to regard their votes as a an expression of their pure souls, rather than as a corrupt bargain they submit to in order to avoid something worse, they’re going to get that -10.
None of the progressives rejected Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in 2008 or 2012 on account of their long-standing record of opposition to gay marriage. Instead, like mature adults, they accepted their 1/2 loaf, got a seat at the table, got their people in key positions, and now everyone forgets that any Democrat ever opposed gay marriage.
You like free trade and limited government? No one is running on that now, any more than those Democrats were running on gay marriage. You have to work with the electorate you have, or nothing you claim to support will come to pass.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:53 amEvery candidate in the GOP primary was more conservative than Trump, except possibly Huckabee, so 60% of Republicans wanted someone more conservative.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:07 am98% of San Diego Charger fans wish they would’ve beaten the SF 49ers in the 1995 Super Bowl. They were sadly disappointed.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:22 amTrump said I see your gay marriage and I’ll raise you an openly gay supreme court justice.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:29 amhttps://www.thestreet.com/story/13741172/1/report-donald-trump-considering-venture-capitalist-peter-thiel-for-supreme-court.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo
#148 Gerald A,
And the even more important statistic is that Hillary Rodham Clinton has been a Democrat since about 1967.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:31 amWe can’t predict everything that Trump might do as President.
But we can predict what a President Hillary will do.
@DRJ:Every candidate in the GOP primary was more conservative than Trump, except possibly Huckabee, so 60% of Republicans wanted someone more conservative.
None of the alternatives did better even with Republicans.
Almost everyone running against John Kerry was more progressive than Kerry. Did progressives take their ball and go home? No. Did they get gay marriage and men in women’s bathrooms? Yes.
They worked with what they had, got their people in key positions, and in the end got what they wanted. They just didn’t get it right away.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:53 am@urbaleftbehind:Trump said I see your gay marriage and I’ll raise you an openly gay supreme court justice.
Erm… is the “conservative” position that gays are unfit for the Court?
Should Clarence Thomas recuse himself from any cases involving the rights of black people?
Where are you going with this? Are you sure you’ve thought this through?
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:55 amIt’s not about whether Thiel is gay. I doubt Trump will nominate him – it’s another example of Trump’s lies — but just talking about Thiel for the Court is a betrayal of Trump’s claims to care about religious liberty for evangelicals. Plus Thiel has practiced law for 7 months. He makes Harriet Miers look over-qualified.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:30 amAdmittedly, my statement was more a knee-jerk rejoinder to the early post about progressives not gay marriage sooner but later.
It is probably a mistake that Trump would think that far into the future in re a credible challenge to the legality of gay marriages or trans transgressions – perhaps some so-con supporters, perhaps the Pence and McCrory wing, but in the short term time frame of a general election Trump is floating Thiel as not only a electoral 2-fer but perhaps a 3 or 4 fer appointment – fiscal conservatives, alt-righters (for his takedown of Gawker), even “skills” immigration people, in addition to anyone swayable by virtue-signaling that he would even consider appointing a gay justice.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:40 amSo the puffington which relegated coverage of him to the entertainment section. Who’s the source.
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:46 am150. If you say so Dearie.
What, may we ask, is on you reading list these days?
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:57 amIt’s much more probable that thiel be treasury or commerce,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:02 amWhat?
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:35 amPatterson can rest easy now, Trump is healthy.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/15/donald-trump-releases-medical-evaluation-report/
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:37 amWe can look at who his advisers are and get a general idea what direction his policies would take.
We don’t know what the details would look like, but that’s true of any candidate.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:37 amPatterico, sorry…
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:38 amhe’s so magnificent how healthy he is
he’s a whirlwind of healthy magnificence!
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:50 amHillary’s physical health is troubling but it’s not Trump’s physical health thar worries me.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:55 amDonald Trump has infinitely more mental health than you.
Not only is he, literally, self-trained in both positively as well as handling reality and setbacks (read his books), he has enormous genuine historical understanding and wisdom.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:14 am*positivity
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:14 amIt’s like DRJ just compared her mental health to Marcus Aurelius, and found his lacking. It’s hilarious.
We need a pro-business, non-war mongering, pro-border control, inspirational leader.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:15 amRe: mental health
Some of the NeverTrumps say Trump would start a nuclear war or that Trump is running to lose on purpose, among other things.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:25 amMaudie gingerly boards her plane with a fresh ‘peaches and cream’ spray job scowl.
Meanwhile, ground crews add extra fuel to compensate for the extra load due heavy make-up on her face. Really noticeable– especially in HDTV.
“Earl Scheib?”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:27 amA visit to the Clinton News Network confirms the Earl Scheib job. Then Trump says I want “Bill Clinton” style growth of 4%. Man, if Bill could find his own Dr. Feelgood, outlive Hill by a few years, and take ownership of the Trump Back-Up Plan, he might end up on some currency himself.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:32 am“Not only is he, literally, self-trained in both positively as well as handling reality and setbacks (read his books), he has enormous genuine historical understanding and wisdom.”
– Denver Guy
This gibberish defies parody.
Leviticus (efada1) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:54 amThey worked with what they had, got their people in key positions, and in the end got what they wanted. They just didn’t get it right away.
Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:53 am
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Continuing the sports analogy, this is what’s called “long ball”, DRJ.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/15/2016 @ 11:34 am“We’ll paint any car, any color for $29.95.”
— Earl Scheib
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/15/2016 @ 11:35 amTarmac video of Maudie arriving in NC isn’t very reassuring.
Deplaining and walking slowing– hint of unsteadiness in her gait entering her ‘transfer van.’
Instantly brought to mind images of a granny making that ‘oh my God get me in there’ waddle to a bathroom at McDonald’s.
She’s not well.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 12:18 pmIt’s very funny to me that half of what Trump released to “Dr. Oz” — one of the two pages — is actually not about Trump at all, but rather relates to his doctor’s credentials (or alleged lack thereof).
Trump has not in fact released any medical records at all, at least not in the sense of any records made by physicians or other health professionals in the ordinary course of their practice. Rather, this is a polished, carefully selected set of data, spun to emphasize the positive aspects. We have no clue what may have been omitted. We have no clue what the rest of his medical history — besides his appendectomy when he was 12 — has been scrubbed, but we can be sure a 70-year-old millionaire has a much more fulsome medical history, positive or negative, than this reveals.
In short, this is another publicity stunt for suckers like hatefulfeet. It’s no different, and arguably much less transparent, than what the Clinton campaign is doing.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 12:53 pmSweatwatch update. Maudie is literally glistening giving her speech.
She appears ill.
Literally looks like a fever pitch!
Max Factor? or Earl Scheib?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:01 pmWho cares? He’s winning. He’ll release them if and when necessary.
Clearly he has more energy than Clinton.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:01 pm@179. Catch her speec in NC. Haven’t seen a shine- or sweat- like that since Nixon.
“I notice you haven’t been oiling your cukes.’ — David Ogden Stiers, ‘Oh God!’ 1977
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:09 pm“I am not a quitter.”- Hillary Rodham Clinton, North Carolina speech, September 15, 2016
“I am not a quitter.” – Richard Milhous Nixon, resignation speech, August 9, 1974
The toss-up: “I am not a crook.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:14 pmMr. Trump is radiant with health whereas stinkypig smells like spoiled sausage and keeps speckling the bosoms of her pantsuits with death-sputum
advantage: Mr. The Donald
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:17 pmOur esteemed host speculated:
Be more probable that he’d be taking one that sort of rhymes with the city of Seattle. 🙂
But, both the drugs which rhyme with Niagara Falls and Seattle can be bought black market, and Mr Trump is smart enough to not have that in his records.
The Dana who isn't a physician (f6a568) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:21 pmBeldare, what makes you think you have a right to view another person’s lifelong medical records, much less the whole world?
If he got a good checkup yesterday that indicates he’s in good health, that is enough. Your demands that he reveal his complete, lifelong health records is that of an entitled child. It’s none of your dammed business.
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:25 pm@183– Instead, JR was smarter: his testosterone levels were part of the information released.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:29 pmJayzuz…. Maudie’s face is literally caked with make-up. Much more than what we’d consider normal.
HDTV really betrays it.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:32 pmReally?
AWESOME.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:54 pmNow that’s #Winning
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 1:57 pmMuch of the country has fallen off a cliff and we’ve still got the usual suspects shouting “squirrel!” at every opportunity. If this election turns out the way they want, I sincerely hope they get what they’re asking for and I hope they get it good and hard.
Colonel Haiku (ede614) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:05 pmMr Trump is all eat-up with the testosterone.
Meanwhile, does anyone believe that Hillary’s BP is as high as 100 over 70?
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:06 pmBeldar, if Trump had released his (superior, Alpha) testosterone level before, it would have been “whatever.” But compared to Clinton’s public collapse, neurological health woes and her team’s constant stream of lies about it?
It is wicked.
I’m going to posit a hypothesis to you: maybe, just maybe, Trump is better at doing politics than you are, including strategy.
I know that’s going out on a limb there.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:09 pm*strategy and timing
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:10 pmYou would think there’s no reason to hide whatever is going on. It’s not illegal or immoral, although it is fattening.
Hillary Clinton has not disclosed her weight
That’s one place Donald Trump has it over her. Donald Trump’s Body Mass Index is around 30. * Dr Oz claimed 25 is ideal, but that’s erroneous.
Hillary’s baggy clothing could be hiding a weight gain, possibly caused or helped along by some medication, or something else that’s going on. Her doctor is actually starting to worry about a cardiac condition, although that’s testing out negative.
* There was an early claim by some audience members that Donald Trump reported having a weight of 267 rather than 236 pounds, which would put his BMI over 33, but I have to suspect that was most likely organized disinformation by the Clinton campaign.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:15 pmNo one has a lower testosterone level than the msfm.
mg (31009b) — 9/15/2016 @ 2:40 pmAight, I was wrong. I suspect that Denver Guy is mocking Trump supporters, at this point.
Leviticus (611108) — 9/15/2016 @ 3:24 pm@ LBascom, who asked (#184):
I don’t think I, or anyone, has a right to view every other person’s lifelong medical records, or academic transcripts, or tax returns.
I believe every candidate for public office must waive that legal right to privacy as a necessary and absolute precondition for political legitimacy.
You obviously think Trump’s politically legitimate anyway. Okay. Did you agree or disagree with Trump when he called upon Obama to release his academic transcripts and birth certificate? If you agreed with him then, you should concede that he’s in the wrong now.
Both major-party candidates are concealing material information about themselves and their pasts that is undoubtedly material and relevant to the voting public’s decision. Both candidates have now so dominated their respective parties’ national organizations that together, in their equally deplorable stonewalling, one of these candidates is almost certain to “get away with it,” in terms of being elected despite the stonewalling.
I point this out for the benefit of those who believe that public office is a public trust. Those who base their decisions on hero-worship will not find my argument persuasive.
They’ll instead be swooning over the report on Trump’s testosterone level, which he made very sure to include in the carefully edited and selective information Trump’s physician turned over to Dr. Oz.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 3:41 pmThere is a value in holding leaders accountable. I don’t think it’s the biggest thing with winning elections, however.
I’m more interested in the latter than the former. There will be four years for the latter. And we know Clinton is corrupt as … well, I can’t think of an adequate metaphor.
It’s a two-way race. I’m supporting the Republican. If that doesn’t sit well with you, I’m supporting the non-Clinton.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 3:44 pmCORRECTION: four years for the former
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 3:45 pmTrump and Hillary are both basically trying to follow the John F. Kennedy approach of releasing half-truths and otherwise using silence to conceal things that the voters had, and have, a right to know. From the Annals of Internal Medicine (footnotes omitted):
JFK was early to the Low-T Supplementation craze. I wonder, would a billionaire who prides himself on sexual virility deny himself that? The records we have now don’t say one way or the other what else, besides statins and aspirin, Trump takes regularly.
Anyway, Trump’s lack of candor about his health concerns me much less than his lack of candor about his taxes. I sure wish the GOP had a candidate who could effectively attack Hillary on concerns about her age, stamina, and health, and who was a genuine contrast to her when it comes to transparency.
Instead we have Frick & Frack, two aging, overweight New York limousine liberals who are utterly certain of their entitlement and who believe themselves utterly above the law or public scrutiny.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:01 pmExcuse me, I said “records” when I meant “report.” We have no records from Trump.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:03 pmMr. Trump Mr. Trump how you feel?
I feel FANtastic happy!
You sure do look it Mr. Trump! Damn you look like you could take on the whole damn whirl with one hand tied behind your back!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:16 pmi’m agog!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:18 pmThat’s the difference between us, Haiku. I want people to succeed, even if we don’t agree. You and Trump and most of your fellow Trump supporters want to get even with people who don’t agree with you. I feel sorry for you.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:25 pm@187– Yep. And apparently of late the trend is to have those numbers. Such are the times we live in.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:26 pmI want what is fair, with democrats and republicans in D.C. failing to enforce the laws on law breaking hacks, it is time for an outsider to rule the free world.
mg (31009b) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:33 pmWise wags are pointing out that Maudie had herself introduced in North Carolina to strains of the classic tune ‘If Feel Good’ by James Brown.
James Brown died of pneumonia.
D’oh!
“… and then there’s Maude! And then there’s Maude! And then there’s Maude! Right on, Maude!”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:35 pmTrump wasn’t mentally healthy enough to remember what foot caused him to dodge the draft. So Trump is weak when it comes to patriotism, integrity, and by his own admission, too physically weak to serve.
It’s amusing that as Trump seeks to take advantage of Hillary’s illness, he just can’t seem to manage to tell the American people the full truth. Whatever Trump is hiding must be quite bad if he had to scrub it to compete with Hillary in her current state.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:40 pmWith Trump on his way to a landslide victory, leave it to the idiot paul traitor ryan to throw a wrench into his gains by demanding he release his tax returns. stfu & gtfo
mg (31009b) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:43 pmI wonder if Trump will attack Clinton at one of the debates for flunking the D.C. bar exam?
That would actually be fair game, it’s a little-known fact, and it might be an effective come-back if Hillary attacks Trump’s intellect.
And it’s the kind of nastiness in which he revels.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:44 pm@#191. See #137.
“Paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard…. Paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine and Dr. Howard!…”
________
Memo to: Mike Pence
Subject: fire extiguishers
Next time you’re asked if David Duke is ‘deplorable’ respond as follows:
No. He is despicable.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:48 pmGee, I wonder if Trump women will show up in the audience at the debate wearing black berets.
That would be better ‘game.’
Showmanship, showmanship, showmanship!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:54 pm@208. He’s behind the curve. Ever the cheesehead, eh.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:57 pm196- I do believe birth records should be produced for presidential candidates, since there are constitutional conditions they would address. As there are no requirements regarding education, school transcripts should be left to the discretion of the candidate, and then the voter to judge the significance of that decision. Personally, I could care less what grades either one got in school. What they have done out in the world is much more important. I’ve been told a hundred times how brilliant constitutional scholar Obama is, but I know HS drop outs that are a hundred times more wise, and would have served the office and the country better than Obama.
As for tax records, I have the same opinion, it’s up to the discretion of the candidate for the voter to judge. As far as I know he’s been filing taxes for 50 years, and the IRS has never found any criminal violations. The intricacies of what he does with his money is none of my business. I subscribe to the whole innocent until proven guilty thang.
I’m guessing you were and are extremely uninterested in Teddy bear Cruz’s sealed immigration records, despite the constitutional requirement for a natural born citizen. Funny how you demand extra-constitutional requirements for Trump while sniffing at legitimate requirements when it comes to your anointed one.
Must be those superior principles I keep hearing about.
LBascom (7b6094) — 9/15/2016 @ 4:58 pmtrump is so exciting some of you people need to check yo self b4 you wreck yo self
get on the trump train join hands
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:03 pmSecond cousin to Obama, Dr. Milton Wolf:
Dr. Wolf sent The Gateway Pundit the following observations:
Some quick, indisputable facts:
◘ Hillary Clinton suffered a dural sinus thrombosis (blood clots in the brain). Very serious. Significant risk of stroke, intracranial hemorrhage and death.
◘ They blamed the clots on a concussion. Not a chance. Concussions don’t cause blood clots. It would take a skull fracture with tearing of the dural sinus.
◘ She suffered/suffers residual/recurrent neurological deficits (visual disturbance, balance, memory, mental status). Bad prognostic indicator.
◘ She is on lifelong Coumadin. This is highly significant. Dangerous drug. Blood thinner. It’s clear she has a hypercoagulable disorder despite their denials. Coumadin carries a substantial risk for patients, particularly those with fall risk. Spontaneous hemorrhage common, intracranial and elsewhere. I see it commonly, including life-threatening brain bleeds. Normal, healthy patients are NEVER, NEVER prescribed Coumadin.
My conclusions (and I’m right about these):
◘ HC clearly has an underlying hypercoagulable blood disorder. That’s the only reason to give Coumadin (other than chronic atrial fibrillation and prosthetic heart valves, which are actually themselves causes of hypercoagulable disorders).
◘ Her hypercoagulable is likely severe. There are safer blood thinners than Coumadin. They’ve tried them on her (Lovenox) and it failed. Coumadin is typically given to those who can’t afford the newer drugs or reserved for cases that are refractory to the safer drugs. Coumadin is a powerful and dangerous drug; originally developed as a rat poison (Warfarin).
And the big one:
◘ It’s more likely than not that Hillary suffered a stroke in 2012 that they called a concussion. Stroke is extremely common following sinus thrombosis (of patients with clot in SSS: 75% stroke and 60% have intracranial hemorrhage). Overall about half the cases of sinus thrombosis resolve completely but that’s obviously not her since she exhibits and confesses to lasting neurological deficits. This is med school 101 stuff.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:19 pmwtf is the diseased stinkypig doing all up in Women’s Health magazine?
that’s like putting Jeb Bush on a Wheaties box
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:21 pm@193 Sammy
I don’t know if it’s possible to be both edemic and dehydrated.
Maybe it helps if the patient is a liar.
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:23 pmTraitors should be put to the sword, yes.
For example, those that invited Western Civilization’s ancient enemy into Western Civilization to attack, molest, and intimidate us.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:27 pm“I point this out for the benefit of those who believe that public office is a public trust. Those who base their decisions on hero-worship will not find my argument persuasive.”
Smarmy lawyers think we’ll grant them the benefit of the doubt we accord those that do not slither.
Unexpectedly!
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:28 pmLOL
Precisely.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:29 pm139. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/14/2016 @ 7:00 pm
Well, I think it’s also possible that the Clinton people, or some publication or organization or something that pretends to be interested in that – might have quietly bought it up first.
In any case nothing is likely to be as good quality as what we already have. I have no ideas what, if anything, is on the other side of the street. At the Boston Marathon, there were stores.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:30 pm218. The difference between mobies like Beldar and Sammeh and the bulk of commenters is the former multiply their words in the brazen effort to blind with BS.
TL;DR is their modus operandi.
Then again, a blind Chimp occasionally taps out a coherent sentiment.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:35 pmDRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:30 am
The source of this report at thestreet.com is the Huffington Post, which implies it got it from “friends” of Thiel, or friends of those friends, who got it from Thiel himself, who got it from Donald Trump himself.
But Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks denied Thiel had been offered a Supreme Court seat or that it was up for discussion and a Thiel spokesman said the billionaire “hasn’t had any conversations” about a nomination and “has no interest in the job.”
So, most likely, the lie started with alleged friends of Thiel’s friends, or perhaps a genuine acquaintance of Peter Thiel made it up, or, best case scenario, misunderstood something Thiel said..
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:41 pmHillary’s back-from-pneumonia address attracts throng of 300 in college town of Greensboro, NC:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/small-turnout-hillary-big-comeback-pneumonia-rally-greensboro-photos/
How depressing. Her entourage was at least 50, and the press had a presence.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:45 pm223.
Skirts afire! Oh, but it’s Trump who lies, a priori.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:48 pm@216.wtf is the diseased stinkypig doing all up in Women’s Health magazine?
‘Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman’ is no longer in production, otherwise Maudie would have had that sit down with Jane Seymour over a healthy plate of rattlesnake stew, wild onions, cornbread and and tea.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:51 pm207. “amusing”. Like trying to score with a man advantage, or crippling the QB on a missed block, etc.
You were pummeled as a kid, weren’t you?
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:56 pm217 Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:23 pm
Maybe it depends upon whether the patient is taking her prescription medicines or not. Sometimes there’s edema, smetimes the opposite.
The weight gain might not be from edema, though.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 5:56 pmIt’s more likely than not that Hillary suffered a stroke in 2012…
Personally, I suspect that as well. A small one. Recoverable, clearly, and certainly nothing to be ashamed of. But hiding it is only creating more problems. Her gait is clearly off; walks gingerly– leans to support herself… wears mostly flats ad her speech is just a hint slow– sure, he says it is on purpose… but even today, post- speech in NC, her ‘availability’ with the press was astonishingly short given the past few days and the questioning typically shallow.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:01 pm@203 DRJ
Speaking just for me, and some people from Tennessee, I couldn’t care less if people disagree with me.
I do care about people trying to destroy me and my way of life.
It’s like First Bull Run and you #nevertrump-ers are setting out your pic-a-nic baskets.
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:03 pmAce:
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:05 pmDr. Milton Wolf might himself never prescribe Coumadiin unless the patient had hypercoagulable blood disorder, or, possibly, chronic atrial fibrillation and prosthetic heart valves, but that doesn’t mean other doctors act that way. Hillary does seem to have a preference for older medications. which we see with the Coumadin and with the Armour. Maybe it’s her insurance plan. She might have picked the cheapest plan.
About a neurological deficit, that’s maybe possible. Maybe she lost control of some muscles in her legs in the last tend years. She can manage maybe most of the time, but it requires more energy than with other people – kind of like post-polio syndrome.
http://agerrtc.washington.edu/sites/agerrtc/files/files/PPH27-FallPrevention-2sp11p10-11.pdf
http://www.post-polio.org/edu/pphnews/pph21-4p1-3.pdf
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:05 pmcan anyone play through:
http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/#polling
seriously this is becoming like seinfeld,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:10 pm#232 Sammy,
We should take Illary at her word that she’s had an awful lot of memory problems. Look at all the times when she’s claimed she couldn’t recall this or that, in regards to her duties as Secretary of State. It’s more than just a few stumbles here and there.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:15 pmone of these days she’ll forget she was secretary of state, note how she says we will never sound ground troops to iraq and syria,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:17 pmIf Hillary chose a doctor who uses older, much more dangerous, medications “just because,” this terrible judgement alone argues against her being President.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:19 pmObama and the Beltway government elites from both Parties ruined your life, Pin, not the NeverTrump folks. How odd that you would blame the people who object the most to Beltway values.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:27 pmBut Trump using a strange GI doctor who wrote his medical summary in 5 min in a limo doesn’t raise a judgment issue?
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:29 pmObamaneycare keeps on giving:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/09/15/How-Obamacare-Clears-Field-GOP-Senate-Win
Price rises due week ahead of election.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:32 pmhe’s a legacy, his father was the family doctor for a long time, can we focus on the practical realities, of this real life west wing episodes,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:32 pmshe’s having flashbacks to 1975, does she remember carlin passed on,
https://twitter.com/jamestaranto/status/776584446225031168
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:34 pm237. “How odd that you would blame the people who object the most to Beltway values.”
Does it ever occur to you to qualify absolute statements?
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:35 pmI might have said “case in point,” but you “missed it by that much.” It is better to afford respect to those with whom you disagree, than pander to the likes of, well, them.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:36 pmSerious question, Denver Guy, re your assurance to DRJ (218), who spoke of people who disagree with you, in response to which you asserted that “[t]raitors should be put to the sword”:
Is everyone who disagrees with you a traitor who should be put to the sword?
If so, do you favor the Islamic scimitar for a ritual beheading? Do you want to do it with a large big knife, like the one 9/11 mastermind Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh used to slit Daniel Pipe’s throat before sawing his head off? Or are you a run-them-through-the-heart guy?
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:36 pmApologies, that ought have read Daniel Pearl.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:38 pm243. Words to live by, but someone has to play the bad cop, always.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:40 pmI assume it’s metaphorical, recall the consular officer who expedited all the hijacker visas, 16 years she’s still employed at foggy bottom,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:40 pmTrue.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:40 pmnarciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:40 pm
Yes, nice work, if you can get it.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:42 pmIDK Beldar, Tony Vilar flunked the bar exam four times and became mayor of LA.
It just proves that the DC bar is sexist.
It is nice to see you trying to use your powers for good.
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:43 pmthey took a kris knife to phil haney, so this was the result,
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/15/dhs-accused-sittingon-damning-border-report-as-immigration-issue-drives-presidential-race.html
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:45 pmwell they turned me down, true I didn’t have a masters from columbia,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:46 pmnarciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:45 pm
unexpected = unsurprising
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:48 pmHillary Clinton before and after she gets #NeverTrump blast of smoke up her backside…
http://americandigest.org/ahillbeforeafter.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:49 pmTrump does hair-raising bit on Fallon; Bubba does his funeral director impression on the Daily Show;
But where’s Maudie??? In hiding getting hydrated.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:58 pm232. I think she isn’t allowing tests to be run which generate data that can be uncovered.
Having clots form in her legs(1998), aggravated by air travel, produce pulmonary emboli which in turn source cerebrovascular accidents(2012) like that of her transverse sinus, a rare ailment.
She is failing and rapidly.
DNF (755a85) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:00 pmthe smallest violin possible for this fellow,
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/776560485290348546
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:07 pm@207 Dustin
At the risk of repeating myself-it’s like Texas Hold ‘Em. Why should Trump show all of his cards?
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:08 pm257. Speaking of improbable job placements, the old Grey Whore is an uncritical employer.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:11 pmyes yes
this is how reuters propaganda slut lisa lambert views the state of play in failmerica 2016
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:12 pmDNF
Hillary is such a wannabe she gave herself hemophilia.
Pinandpuller (6d85e0) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:16 pm256. Her coughing could be a symptom of pulmonary emboli aggravating her problems swallowing. Furthermore, episodic ishemia could interfere dopamine production and thereby mimic Parkinson’s.
DNF (ffe548) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:22 pmworking that more selective audience,
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/spot-book-review-difference
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:33 pmCruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:15 pm
She said that also in the 1990s. At that time Rush Limbaugh ran a parody of the song ‘Do you remember the 21st of September:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQureIC1QM
(Oor maybe that’s a later one?)
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:38 pmYou Trumpkins are like the stumpy little rejects who formed the entourage for middle school bullies. Too dumb and weak to do anything for yourselves, but you took solace in the false sense of belonging that came from laughing at the moronic jokes of the guy who didn’t give a f*ck about you. You really are pathetic.
Leviticus (65e6ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:39 pmThat naco Marcos Gutierrez could have taken a break from his cooning and brought a mirror to that Congressional Hispanic appearance – that have set up some gran mal for sure.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:41 pm235. narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 6:17 pm
Secret deployments don’t count. Even if they are not really secret.
Special forces may be on the ground, but they are not really “troops.”
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:44 pmI said just yesterday that the NeverTrumps aren’t voting on issues at all but rather on disliking Trump and his supporters (which, if true, is childish). DRJ epitomizes that to a tee. Which means that DRJ also epitomizes projection to a tee.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:44 pmAnd all it took for Gerald to do a complete 180 on Trump was for Trump to win the nomination. Wonder what that “epitomizes.”
Leviticus (611108) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:48 pmyes, sammeh we have way fewer than general shinseki, caterwailed about but a 100 times, the advisors we had in el salvador per se, in the 80s,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:51 pmWTF are you going on about now, DRJ. I’ve stated my preference for the guy who finished second a hundred or more times. You’ve indicated you find Trump reprehensible even more often. Vote or don’t vote, but stop acting as if you are morally or ethically superior. It’s trite and it’s tedious.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:56 pmYou don’t know what you’re talking about Leviticus.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 7:58 pmHow can I? It shifts with the wind.
Leviticus (611108) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:00 pmi’m half joking sammeh, only someone who had forgotten what she has wrought, in haiti, nigeria, north africa, et al, would seriously considering that as promotable pretext,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:00 pmYou can’t know what you’re talking about?
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:01 pmAnd it shines and stinks. Next.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:02 pmGerald A, it would be an improvement if you would stop with the mind-reading, trying to tell everyone what someone else really was thinking or really meant.
That’s not just projection, it’s deception.
It’s true I hate Trump. I dislike a great many of his supporters. But I defy you to find anywhere, ever, in which I’ve said that those are the reasons why I won’t vote for him.
You can find comments from me here & elsewhere on the internet listing the reasons why I won’t. Some of them have to do with his lack of character and judgment. That’s a question of fitness for office, and it’s actually independent of whether I like someone or not. Joe Biden is unfit for office, but I’d enjoy drinking a beer with him. Trump is unfit for office and I wouldn’t want to be in the same square mile with him. See, these are independent variables.
And others have to do with his policies, to the extent those can actually be discerned (isolationist, protective tariffs, more big government domestically, more crony capitalism, more deficits, utter failure to seriously address long-term structural issues, etc., etc., etc.).
I don’t want to see Trump punished. What he deserves is to be ignored. Alas, that is impossible.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:07 pm@ Col. Haiku, #270:
Many things that are trite and tedious are also true.
Here’s another: people hate being reminded of their sins. Remind them often enough or long enough, and they begin to find the reminders…trite and tedious.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:10 pmNo. Don’t be retarded.
I’m thinking of people like Angela Merkel. I gave an example in my original comment.
To be frank, I prefer traditional European methods such as the noose, the guillotine, or, my favorite, drawing and quartering. But I’m open minded.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:11 pmNo. Don’t be daft.
I’m thinking of people like Angela Merkel. I gave an example in my original comment.
To be frank, I prefer traditional European methods such as the noose, the guillotine, or, my favorite, drawing and quartering. But I’m open minded.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:11 pmIf I’m being daft, then why did you write that?
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:14 pm“fitness” is not an issue when speaking of the qualifications such as they are of the slutty slutty slutpresident of debt-besotted post-constitutional slutmerica
we do kindly ask that you not reek of death-pig
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:14 pmIs it easier to ask who you wish to have spared?
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:16 pmThose not in power and those in power who are not knowingly inviting violent enemies into the country.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:21 pmwell you can’t dismiss anyone from an office you selected them from, (the us atty deal) you can only seemingly disbar them for a while (sandy berglar) whereas they find more clever ways to drive officials from their offices, or block them from taking office, john bolton, otto reich to cite too examples,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:21 pmWonderful… another preening, self-righteous bloviator. Just what this world needs.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:22 pmDon’t be so hard on yourself, Colonel. I don’t think you’re self-righteous.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:27 pmOr were you talking about happyfeet? In which case, never mind. I totally agree with you.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:29 pmDCSCA
“Wears mostly flats…”
Dude, are you gay?
Pinandpuller (7b4baa) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:31 pmThe Professor is in ‘da house!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:34 pmPersonally, I’d prefer to listen to Mary Ann.
As a practical matter, I doubt we’re going to achieve perfect justice with traitors. As an emotional matter and a matter of philosophical preference, I don’t much like traitors.
I don’t mean people who disagree with me. I mean those who aid those, from another culture, who kill our people in an organized, not-merely criminal justice, sense.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:36 pmI don’t much like you. For whatever that’s worth.
Leviticus (611108) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:39 pm“Just sit right back, and you’ll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip…”
Hey Professor Demosthenes, I think we’re lost!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:39 pmSpeaking of elderly blowhards…
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2016/09/10-pictures-of-hillary-clinton-wobbling.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:42 pmSammy
“My brain and my body are
Running on different rails”.
Def Leppard
Pinandpuller (7b4baa) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:46 pmI certainly appreciate it.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:47 pm“196. Beldar: I believe every candidate for public office must waive that legal right to privacy as a necessary and absolute precondition for political legitimacy.”
Well, all sorts of people believe the world should work in all sorts of ways that it doesn’t. When you become King Of The World, you can institute the policies you like. Until then, the world works the way it does, and you need to deal with that.
“Anyway, Trump’s lack of candor about his health concerns me much less than his lack of candor about his taxes.”
Nobody cares about his taxes. The people who say they care only want to try to find something in there to use against him. If the IRS accepts his tax return, that means he paid what he should have paid.
He is rich, he has luxury buildings all over the world with his name on them, the IRS hasn’t thrown him in jail for tax evasion.
I am soooo tired of Republicans handing the Democrats the club they’ll use to beat him with,
It’s almost like Trump knows how to play this game.
fred-2 (ce04f3) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:48 pmleviticus will probably vote for bluntman, and we’ll end up with the coin toss to decide his state as in 2000.
narciso (d1f714) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:50 pm“It’s almost like Trump knows how to play this game.”
^ This.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:55 pmAnd that. ↓
“I am soooo tired of Republicans handing the Democrats the club they’ll use to beat him with,”
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:56 pmIt’s one or the other. As apprehensive… perhaps anxious is a better characterization… as I feel about this election cycle, I have to fall back on the decision I’ve made. Trump is an unknown, with the potential to do good and/or bad as POTUS. I’ve eyes wide open to that. Clinton is a known greedy, malevolent hack with a near insatiable lust for power and who – I believe – will continue to trash American values and pursue policies that will be detrimental to America’s position in the world.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:00 pmfred-2, when you write “nobody cares about his [Trump’s] taxes,” you’re obviously speaking of yourself and those who believe as you do.
I assure you that there are others, including many who might otherwise be persuaded to vote for Trump, who do care.
Claim what you will about “how the game is played,” but Trump is stonewalling on something every modern-era presidential candidate has submitted to. Only Trump is hiding his taxes. Even his own Veep nominee has released his taxes, IIRC.
But yeah, you’re right that there are some people who don’t care if Trump is ripping off the American taxpayer. You’ve clearly so self-identified — your words, not mine.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:07 pmColonel Haiku,
You’re dealing in reality, while some of our friends are dealing in fantasy.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:09 pmI guess that’s about all I want to say about it, CS. My best to everybody here. Good night and God bless.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:18 pmHow about Paul Ryan, Denver Guy? He’s certainly a person in power. mg (#208) has called Ryan “traitor” and said that he should “stfu” and “gtfo” for suggesting that Trump release his tax returns, as Ryan did when he was the GOP’s veep nominee in the last election cycle.
Should Paul Ryan be put to the sword? Has he been insufficiently resistant to keeping out whoever it is that you want to keep out?
I really don’t know what your answer will be.
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:18 pmDSC
Well first off, nobody has ruined my life, yet.
But your impression of people like Colonel Haiku is that they are out for blood with anyone who disagrees.
That’s just not the case.
We are at war with principalities and powers. If you want to sit on the hill and eat your sandwich because there’s no difference between General Trump and General Clinton and their causes then so be it.
Some people grab a gun and head for the woods like the Bielski brothers and some people pack a bag and wait for the train.
Pinandpuller (7b4baa) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:20 pmPinandpuller,
I heard a rumor that if you don’t vote in the presidential election, then you are excluded from the new president’s authority.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:39 pmOf course, nobody told us how that worked when Barack was running!
What, I’m the only kukri fan around here?
Pinandpuller (7b4baa) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:54 pmCruz Supporter
Some daft-dodgers here sound like sovereign citizens on Youtube.
Pinandpuller (7b4baa) — 9/15/2016 @ 9:59 pmIn November, since we can’t vote for a great conservative on the ballot, let’s enable a great liberal to become President!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:06 pmTrump came.
Trump saw.
Trump Thought Big and Kicked Ass.
Denver Guy (4750ec) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:22 pmamen, Col.
mg (31009b) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:39 pmRyan only wants to play ball with his uni-party brothers. He is a person wiping his arse with the American people. Hang him.
mg (31009b) — 9/15/2016 @ 10:41 pm@287– Dude. No more than Rudy Giuliani.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2016 @ 1:35 am@276- “It’s true I hate Trump. I dislike a great many of his supporters.”
“… oh it’s fun to eulogize; the people you despise…”
Cue Tom Lehrer!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwbZ9AlSPI
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2016 @ 1:47 amThe f.b.i. has refused to do what it is supposed to do. Time for whitey to riot like a mf.
mg (31009b) — 9/16/2016 @ 2:45 amfred-2 (ce04f3) — 9/15/2016 @ 8:48 pm
Actually, they haen’t. He’s still under audit.
It seems like when they negotiate, his tax lawyers manage to have him avoid paying anything extra, according to the careful wording of some statement hat was issued. That may be because he has large tax loss carryovers, so if the IRS says his Adjusted Gross Income is larger, it still doesn;t change his taxes!
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409.html
Things he might be hiding are the source of some income, and maybe a dispute about whether some unpaid loans are income.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/16/2016 @ 3:11 amActually this is all before arriving at Adjusted Gross Income. He probably has other ways of reducing income or taxes in reserve, but the most obvious would be an enormous capital gains loss carryforward.
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/16/2016 @ 3:16 am@ Cruz Supporter, #308:
Finally, you admit what you’re doing. I was beginning to think you would never be honest about it, even with yourself.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 4:39 amNow that we know something about Hillary’s medical problems, some things taht we saw before can be seen ina different light and present clues as to what is going on.
There was an e-mail that was obtained some time ago by the Washington Post in which the Harry Walker agency issued all sorts of requirements for a Hillary Clinton appearance at UCLA in March of 2014, for which they charged $300,000, telling them that was already the “special university rate” (a lie)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/behind-the-scenes-of-hillary-clintons-300000-speech-at-ucla/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/plans-for-ucla-visit-give-rare-glimpse-into-hillary-clintons-paid-speaking-career/2014/11/26/071eb0cc-7593-11e4-bd1b-03009bd3e984_story.html
At the time it was seen, or spun, as Hillary regarding herself as some sort of royalty.
But there may have bene good medical reasons for all the requests or demands.
Backstage, in the green room she needed:
On stage, she needed:
Sammy Finkelman (329d95) — 9/16/2016 @ 5:50 ammg, we’re used to your vitriol toward Ryan, your death threats against him are nothing new.
But I’m still waiting for Denver Guy to answer my pending question (#303): Do you want to put the Speaker of the House to the sword?
Beldar (fa637a) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:02 am@299. In other words, ‘roll the dice.’
Life’s crap shoot.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2016 @ 12:10 pmNo mind reading. Logical inferences. I’ve explained this before.
Kasich was running away from conservatism in the primaries. He supported Obamacare for crying out loud. Kasich, like Bush, has nothing to say about the border, an issue which has come to symbolize the dividing line between conservatives and RINO’s in many people’s minds. I regard Trump’s positions as a whole as clearly more conservative than Kasich’s. I think Kasich would be supported by almost all NeverTrumps.
Yes people question Trump’s character but mostly they go on about how “There’s two Democrats running!”, which makes absolutely no sense. There are huge differences between the two such as taxes, the border, the green energy nonsense and of course SCOTUS.
Therefore, I infer that Trump’s specific positions are not why they oppose him.
There’s also been some comments that to me imply that some NeverTrumps are focusing on Trumpers, not issues. DRJ has said, more than once I think, that the election’s not about spending but who it’s being spent on, in the minds of Trump’s supporters. I infer that’s top of mind for DRJ. This is not a comment on any specific Trump policy proposal but what’s going on in the minds of his supporters.
Then of course, there’s the people who actually want Clinton to win. No intelligent person could regard her as being more conservative than Trump, yet they want her to win. Why? Again, I infer it’s not about issues.
I find some of your assertions about the policies Trump would pursue, such as the oft repeated charge of “crony capitalism”, fairly mindless Beldar. He has tried to play that game from the business side, but I know of no evidence he’s pulling lots of donations from special interests who are likely expecting some specific favor in return.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:10 pmit may have had something to do with mailman’s son and the medici, were both directors at the illfated lehman bros bank,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:22 pm@ Gerald A, #321:
Not quite true. There are huge differences between Trump’s rhetoric and Kasich’s rhetoric. The only way you can get from this obvious truth to what you said is if you accept that Trump, by and large, will do what he says he will do. Which, once again, no Trump supporter has ever given me a good reason to believe that this guy — who’s a lifelong New York City limousine liberal, and a crony capitalist, and someone who made lots of his money off exporting manufacturing jobs overseas — has suddenly seen the light and become a free-marketeering, America-first conservative.
In my case, at least, you’re right. I oppose Trump because I don’t believe he believes what he says. I think that maybe, just maybe, someone who has built his reputation on “the art of the deal” — telling people what they want to hear to close the sale, and then living up to it only when it suits him — might be trying to play the same game here. But that’s me. I believe in extrapolating from recognized patterns, and I adhere to the received wisdom about a leopard and his spots. #YMMV.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:45 pmProfessor Demosthenes,
Kasich’s no longer running for president.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:48 pmEither Trump or illary will become the next president.
Which one?
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 7:45 pm
someone who made lots of his money off exporting manufacturing jobs overseas — has suddenly seen the light and become a free-marketeering, America-first conservative.
This doesn’t make any sense. If he’s made lots of money exporting manufacturing jobs overseas, then that implies he’s actually for free markets. Do you even think about what you say? Or are you saying you believe he’s actually against protectionism and you’re in favor of it?
There are huge differences between Trump’s rhetoric and Kasich’s rhetoric. The only way you can get from this obvious truth to what you said is if you accept that Trump, by and large, will do what he says he will do.
Okay, so then if Kasich was the nominee, would you be voting for him?
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:03 pm@ Cruz Supporter, #324:
That’s for you to decide. You’re the one who’s going to enable a liberal to become the next president. I’ll have nothing to do with either.
@ Gerald A, #325:
Fair enough. I actually meant to oppose free-marketeering with crony capitalist, and didn’t stop to consider the full implications of what I said. I should have taken the time to choose my words more carefully, and come up with a better opposition. So fair point, and I’ll take my lumps on that one.
But to answer seriously the second question you asked: I think Trump is in favor of Trump. I think he exported manufacturing jobs overseas because there was money in it for him. Now that he’s running for president on a platform of “Make America Great Again,” his economic policy is much more…protectionist. So he was for free markets before he was against them, I guess. But again, this is the guy whose word you want me to take?
Reluctantly, yes. If I were to have ranked the candidates in preference order, Scott Walker would have been first, then Rick Perry, then Bobby Jindal, and so on down the line. The last three on the list — to borrow some Hugos terminology — would have been John Kasich, No Award, and Donald Trump.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:17 pmProfessor Demosthenes,
Being cute may win you style points in the classroom, but it doesn’t make a difference in the real world.
Once again, illary is a left wing nut.
And Trump is probably a middle of the road guy who has spent his career as a pragmatic businessman who goes along to get along, rather than a philosophical ideologue.
One of them is going to become the next president.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:38 pmWhich one?
Professor Demosthenes,
Kasich’s no longer running for president.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:40 pmGet your head in the game, big guy.
#323
There are huge differences between [Trump and Kasich] such as taxes, the border, the green energy nonsense and of course SCOTUS.
I was talking about Trump v Clinton in my comment, not about Trump v Kasich.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:42 pmit does feel like the argument clinic, no, govt policy almost makes one policy obligatory, first carrier now ford,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:43 pm#329 Gerald A,
This is the problem with our #NeverTrump friends; they’re still litigating the primaries. By the way, how do you believe Carson will do in Iowa? (LOL)
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:44 pmThat is the most plausible characterization of Trump based on everything we know. He’s not into philosophy or formulas.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:44 pmand another thing,
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/09/no-incomes-didnt-soar-in-2015.php
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:50 pm@ Cruz Supporter:
I have explained before, several times — to you — that I will have no impact on whether Clinton or Trump becomes the next president. I’m voting for Gary Johnson, and your preferred liberal will not be hurt one bit because of my non-support.
And I know Kasich isn’t running for president anymore. In many ways I’m glad of it, because he’s the absolute last Republican candidate I would have voted for. He’s the absolute bottom of the barrel.
Trouble for you is — Trump’s below the barrel.
You can keep asking me “which one” as much as you want. My answer will be the same: neither. You can keep calling me “Professor” as much as you want. I don’t mind. I actually find it quite flattering. If that’s the worst “insult” you can deliver, it’s backfiring on you every time. And judging by what you write here, in any classroom of mine, you’d be lucky to scrape a D.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:50 pm@ Gerald A, #329:
When the last proper names you use before employing the phrase “the two” are Trump and Kasich, you’re setting up the confusion.
Regardless, it does not address my point. You have not given me a single reason to believe that I can trust Trump. None of his supporters have.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:54 pm@ Cruz Supporter, #331:
Bulver and Bulver. Who is Bulver?!
Demosthenes (09f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:57 pmThis porridge is too hot!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2016 @ 8:58 pmI’m sure he means well,
http://www.wsj.com/articles/exxons-accounting-practices-are-investigated-1474018381
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2016 @ 9:02 pmFirst of all, the evidence is he’s not on the left of the political spectrum. Despite your calling him a “limousine liberal” he has not been associated with most of the classic leftist positions (climate change, blacks as victims). His issue advisers aren’t leftist. That means something. We wouldn’t see another leftist at Justice attacking the nation’s police. There’s EPA and all the other departments and agencies. Those people wield tremendous power. I don’t know that they would be as conservative as we’d like, but again, neither would a Kasich administration. That’s why I keep getting talking about him.
Second, I think he has to do the right thing on SCOTUS and attempt to put some kind sane border policy into effect. He’d destroy any chance of getting reelected if he didn’t.
He’s not a fiscal conservative. Neither is Clinton. So that issue is a wash.
Gerald A (76f251) — 9/16/2016 @ 9:14 pmProfessor “D”-mosthenes,
All the coffee house moralizing and 2AM dorm room BS sessions will ultimately be in vain.
At the end of the day, either illary or Trump will become the next president.
THAT’S what I’m interested in; who will become the next president.
We can sit around and ‘prefer’ Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, or Ronald Reagan, but none of them is even on the ballot.
You can vote for Gary Johnson, or Lyndon Johnson, or Andrew Johnson, or Ronald McDonald, but I promise you that Reince Priebus, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan aren’t taking notice of your protest vote.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/16/2016 @ 9:23 pmThree Flaming Skulls! http://ace.mu.nu/archives/365862.php
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2016 @ 9:32 pm