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9/3/2016

The Sadly Dazed And Confused Hillary Clinton

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:21 am



[guest post by Dana]

Dazed and confused, indeed:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her staffers employed an informal and sometimes haphazard system for exchanging and storing sensitive information and were at times either unaware or unconcerned with State Department policy, documents from an FBI investigation into her private email server system show.

The documents reveal a myriad of new details about the email set-up and show that investigators found multiple attempts by hackers to access Clinton’s system — a series of personal devices and servers that the Democratic presidential candidate told investigators she used as a matter of convenience while she was secretary of state.

The materials, which include a summary of the FBI’s entire investigation as well as Clinton’s hours-long interview with agents in July, contain no major revelations. But they offer new details that Clinton’s political opponents will be able use in the months leading up to the November election. The summary shows that Clinton’s account to law enforcement was generally consistent with what she has said about her email situation publicly, but she repeatedly told agents she could not recall important details or specific emails she was questioned about.

The NY Post summed up Clinton’s recklessness:

 In addition to the thousands of Clinton e-mails the State Department has found to hold classified data, the FBI ID’d 81 classifed e-mail chains — eight of them “top secret.”

 Clinton used at least 13 mobile devices at State. Some were properly destroyed afterward — but others just went missing.

 She didn’t even know how classification worked: “Clinton could not give an example of how classification of a document was determined.” And, in one example, she didn’t even realize that “deliberation over a future drone strike” — a highly classified issue — was “cause for concern regarding classification.”

 After news broke of her private setup, she tried to completely wipe all her records. In the end, she failed to hand over at least 17,448 work e-mails.

 Though she denied it again to the FBI, her goal throughout was plainly to evade the Freedom of Information laws: Whenever anyone else — from Colin Powell to techies at State — noted that a course of action would mean leaving records that might become public, she chose a different path.

Clinton was also unable to remember Very Important Things such as official training on how to maintain State records, how to send and secure classified information, any of the State’s email policies, and what her name was.

Also, in Hillary Clinton’s professional life, things sometimes just disappear:

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Anyway, one would have expected Donald Trump to be tweeting up a storm about this latest confirmation of the irresponsible, dishonest, and even dangerous decision-making of his opponent, but then again, it’s Donald Trump we’re talking about. Any other candidate would have pilloried her. Which makes you wonder why he hasn’t:

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Also, any other candidate would not have been so cavalier about handling State secrets and the security of the American people. Any other candidate would not have considered herself so above the law that she could just disregard for the rules. And maybe, just maybe, if you can’t even remember what the rules of security are, and can’t remember that the big “C” on an email doesn’t stand for Confused, you shouldn’t be allowed to hold any position of power that could directly, or indirectly, endanger the lives of others.

Been dazed and confused for so long it’s not true. Wanted a woman, never bargained for you. Indeed!

–Dana

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: Here’s my own take on the matter, which I drafted as Dana was drafting this and decided to append as an update to her post:

The Most Boring Headline Ever: New Revelations About Hillary’s Emails

I know, right? Like the parade of lies by Donald J. Trump, the steady stream of new revelations about Hillary Clinton’s emails becomes numbing after a while. There are so many that it’s difficult to keep track of them all. We could read a story proving that Russia, China, and ISIS had all used Hillary’s stolen emails to learn the identity of every undercover operative in the world, and on some level we’d be thinking: wait, didn’t we already read this story somewhere? I can’t remember!

But there are new revelations from the FBI’s release of investigative notes from the investigation, helpfully released the Friday before the three-day Labor Day weekend.

One of the fun facts we learned just before the long holiday weekend: potentially recoverable emails may still exist on a laptop that was put in the mail and then disappeared:

E-mails that Clinton sent and received through her private server during her tenure were archived on the laptop in 2013 by a person who was an assistant to former President Bill Clinton, the FBI said in its heavily redacted investigative report released Friday.

Someone whose name was redacted in the FBI report told the agency that he later deleted the e-mails from the laptop but didn’t wipe its hard drive. A computer technician can often recover such e-mails that have been deleted but not permanently erased from a laptop’s memory.

The FBI sought the laptop as part of its investigation, but it’s whereabouts remain unknown, the bureau said: The last time the laptop was seen was when it was put in the mail.

Nice, huh? Here’s another cute tidbit:

“Clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her cause for concern regarding classification,” the notes said.

This would make a great subject for a series of questions at Clinton’s next press conference: How is disseminating information about a contemplated drone strike not cause for concern? Can you think of any topic that would create “cause for concern”? And so forth. You can easily picture such questions being asked, can’t you? Of course you can’t, because 1) she doesn’t hold press conferences, almost ever; and 2) when she rarely does, questions like that don’t get asked, because media.

Sheesh. It’s difficult to imagine anyone being more cavalier with sensitive information. I can think of only one person who might be: Donald J. Trump.

Heckuva job, electorate!

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: A commenter complains that the tweet embedded in Dana’s post was published before the FBI release. OK . . . for the record, here are all the tweets Trump has put out since the tweet embedded by Dana, as of the publication of this post. Count how many there are about the Hillary emails. I’ll do it for you: zero.

UPDATE x2 BY PATTERICO: The same commenter notes that Trump (OK, Trump’s campaign) has put out some press releases about the FBI release. Here’s one:

“Hillary Clinton’s answers to the FBI about her private email server defy belief. I was absolutely shocked to see that her answers to the FBI stood in direct contradiction to what she told the American people. After reading these documents, I really don’t understand how she was able to get away from prosecution.” – Donald J. Trump

I’d bet the deed to my house that this is a lie, and that Trump has not read the documents. He watched something about them on TV. He got some flacks to write up a couple of statements about them but can’t be bothered to tweet about them (which is how you know he cares about something) and sure as hell didn’t read anything, because the man doesn’t read, because he is a moron.

ADDED: This Ted Cruz ad is spot-on perfect, especially after yesterday’s news dump:

488 Responses to “The Sadly Dazed And Confused Hillary Clinton”

  1. Dear God, save us from these people.

    Dana (995455)

  2. lets dispense with the notion she didn’t know, even children can figure out this is the truth, this is a deliberate campaign of obstruction of all avenues of investigation, pursuant to mass embezzlement and missapropriation of funds, and covert policies to enable the funders of said projects,

    narciso (732bc0)

  3. Dear Dana:

    You’re on your own this time.

    God

    Bill H (971e5f)

  4. But no reasonable prosecutor would have gone forward with any of these charges. According to FBI Director Comey.

    Where is the puke bucket, again?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  5. someone who would lie about who caused a fatal accident, who would use his son’s tragic death, to cover up the policy shortcomings I’m being charitable,

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/joe-biden-confronted-by-heckler-whose-friend-died-in-syria/article/2600856?custom_click=rss

    is that not the definition of sociopathy.

    narciso (732bc0)

  6. corrupt fbi poofterboy james comey should be in jail with the pig i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. your Mr. Trump tweet went out at 5:28 in the morning which is *before* the corrupt fbi dumped these embarrassing documents

    therefore this post is fundamentally misleading, which is very bad therefore

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  8. 5:28 in the morning yesterday to be clear for so you can understand what i’m saying

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. lets dispense with the notion she didn’t know, even children can figure out this is the truth,…
    narciso (732bc0) — 9/3/2016 @ 9:26 am

    According to the notes she acknowledged she was an OCA. This was a slam dunk case, (like I’ve been saying for how long?) had it seen the inside of a court room.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  10. btw I hope Mika gets the help she needs

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. you take stephanopoulos, mika and the charming mrs maverick, and columbia doesn’t seem that great a deal,

    http://www.newsbusters.org/search/site/quijano

    narciso (732bc0)

  12. Again, it’s a binary choice between Hillary and Trump.

    I’d prefer a binary choice between Hilary and … Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Walker, Fiorina, et al …

    But it’s not.
    It’s a binary choice between Hillary and Trump.
    Make a choice.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  13. corrupt fbi poofterboy james comey should be in jail with the pig i think

    No, no, no! We will need James Comey to arrest Trump for violation of Article XI of the Constitution: “No Badgerheaded Buffoon shall seek to diminish the Dignity of the Office of the President by aspiring to It.”

    Just kidding. I agree with Steve57. This is a slam-dunk case in the hands of a competent prosecutor. The fix was put in on the tarmac in Phoenix and Lynch gave Comey his marching orders.

    nk (dbc370)

  14. Bet she hasn’t forgotten teh VRWC!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. I’d prefer a binary choice

    As opposed to, what? The unitary choice of the one party state?

    Have we gone entirely off our nut, to use this language?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  16. The one that has to be pissed off the most about all this is Bernie Sanders. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  17. They put it “in the mail” but don’t reveal (remember – how is it that everyone around the Clinton’s have deficient memories?) who it was mailed to?
    Yes, please, pull on my other finger.

    askeptic (bfa00e)

  18. 8. Got it loud and clear the first post.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  19. so that makes huma accessory before the fact,

    narciso (732bc0)

  20. Bet she hasn’t forgotten teh VRWC!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/3/2016 @ 10:01 am

    Don’t forget SAPR! Why, the fleet is so boresighted on preventing sexual assault, it can’t avoid Farsi Island anymore. Thank God the Iranians will return our boats. Eventually.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  21. Head Trump cheerleader happyfeet sez:

    your Mr. Trump tweet went out at 5:28 in the morning which is *before* the corrupt fbi dumped these embarrassing documents

    therefore this post is fundamentally misleading, which is very bad therefore

    I have added this update in response:

    UPDATE BY PATTERICO: A commenter complains that the tweet embedded in Dana’s post was published before the FBI release. OK . . . for the record, here are all the tweets Trump has put out since the tweet embedded by Dana, as of the publication of this post. Count how many there are about the Hillary emails. I’ll do it for you: zero.

    Wow, turns out Dana’s point was not misleading at all! Sad!

    Patterico (bcf524)

  22. 20…..It is the Clinton Crime-Family Foundation/Global Money-Laundering Initiative.
    Like the Roman Catholic Church, without a belief in God.
    They’re all in it together.

    askeptic (bfa00e)

  23. now lurch and brennan and sawers are now enabling this fellow, mentioned in the piece,

    http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/kidnapped-in-syria-anthony-loyds-harrowing-story-20141017

    maverick might even give him an attaboy,

    narciso (732bc0)

  24. I disagree with our friend Dustin that this woman needs to become our next President.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  25. i think it’s misleading none of the tweets he’s made since the documents were released can take the place of the tweet Dana selected to the same rhetorical effect she’s trying to achieve at all

    so Mr. Trump chose to make a statement instead of a tweet big hairy deal

    “I was absolutely shocked to see that her answers to the FBI stood in direct contradiction to what she told the American people. After reading these documents, I really don’t understand how she was able to get away from prosecution,” he said in a statement.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. that statement was released the day the corrupt fbi reluctantly released the embarrassing documents btw

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  27. What a world…

    I remember folks, here, in 2008 and 2012, insisting that they were sitting out (or not voting, like Mr. Feet, repeatedly) Presidential elections because there was “no difference” between BHO and John McCain or BHO and Mitt Romney.

    Notice, by the way, people who defend the ultra bizarre Trump slavishly who call (and continue to call) McCain and Romney weird and infantile names.

    Anyway, many of us tried to convince the “sitter outers” that it was a binary choice; that there certainly were differences between the candidates, and you had to choose the lesser of two evils. These people responded (often crudely) otherwise.

    Yet some of these very same people NOW are claiming that choices are binary!

    The hypocrisy is staggering.

    Trump is a terrible candidate, who continually flubs superb opportunities to help himself and his campaign. Clinton is a terrible candidate as well. What an awful situation.

    But no worries, Patterico. The Trump supporters will continue to shriek and carry on, calling people names and distracting from what has to be the worst choice in American history for President.

    No matter what they have said in the past.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  28. All Trump cares about is keeping his mouth-breathers fired up so they’ll keep donating to his “self-funded” campaign. Flying around the country world in a jet with gold-plated faucet handles is not cheap, you know. Not to mention that “campaign headquarters” he’s leasing from himself.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. i would LOVE to vote it simply may not be logistical pleasant this time

    but make no mistake about it

    my heart yearns for that pig’s defeat

    oh how it yearns

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  30. I suspect are correct, nk.

    Mr. Feet, you are such a liar. I thought this was super important. But clearly it seems difficult for you to actually cash the bad checks your mouth writes, continually.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  31. no you are wrong pooper

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  32. UPDATE x2 BY PATTERICO: The same commenter notes that Trump (OK, Trump’s campaign) has put out some press releases about the FBI release. Here’s one:

    “Hillary Clinton’s answers to the FBI about her private email server defy belief. I was absolutely shocked to see that her answers to the FBI stood in direct contradiction to what she told the American people. After reading these documents, I really don’t understand how she was able to get away from prosecution.” – Donald J. Trump

    I’d bet the deed to my house that this is a lie, and that Trump has not read the documents. He watched something about them on TV. He got some flacks to write up a couple of statements about them but can’t be bothered to tweet about them (which is how you know he cares about something) and sure as hell didn’t read anything, because the man doesn’t read, because he is a moron.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  33. Use your freedom of choice, limited though the choice may be.

    Vote to elect the buffoonish guy who soundly thrashed the other 16 people running in the primaries, vote for the walking criminal “D” conspiracy, or vote for New Mexican the guy with the glazed eyes and short-term memory loss issues.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  34. Simon Jester,

    Friend, it doesn’t matter what someone “said” in 2008.

    That’s all exclusive from what’s going on today. The next President will either be Hillary or Trump. That’s our choice. And even if we don’t make a choice, the rest of the electorate will make one for us.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  35. i would LOVE to vote it simply may not be logistical pleasant this time

    but make no mistake about it

    my heart yearns for that pig’s defeat

    oh how it yearns

    Hahahaha “logical pleasant.” WTF (Why The Face)

    Patterico (bcf524)

  36. Use your freedom of choice, limited though the choice may be.

    Vote to elect the buffoonish guy who soundly thrashed the other 16 people running in the primaries, vote for the walking criminal “D” conspiracy, or vote for New Mexican the guy with the glazed eyes and short-term memory loss issues.

    No.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  37. You are just a cowardly incontinent pervert ugly smelly grifter, dude (or so you think it is cool to call others) . Also too lazy to vote but not to fun your mouth.

    You sure can dish it out, but can’t take it.

    Such a troll stinking up the place.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  38. All Trump, all the time. When did he piss in your flowerpot?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. And I don’t mean Patterico, who is honorable and honest.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  40. Then don’t.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. Fighting battles lost years ago, settling old scores… may we all live in the present, with an eye on the future.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. With so many Republicans bailing on our most reprehensible nominee, the lesson of the primary season is that a vote for Trump was a vote for Hillary. I am not responsible for your magical thinking. If you send us a nominee we can’t stomach, don’t expect us to vote for that nominee. The cause and effect couldn’t be clearer; I’m sick of the blame shifting. If Hillary is elected, it will be because you nominated Trump. Period.

    Principled Republicans should vote Clinton and move us closer to a Cruz victory in 2020.

    My heart yearns for that pig’s defeat, too. Next time, send us a nominee who will get the job done.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  43. i’m not lazy at all i promise

    today’s my Stranger Things marathon day is all

    But I tell you what

    when I say we gotta beat that pig I’m not doing ti just for me

    I’m doing it for you too

    and your children

    and your children’s children

    that they may live free of pig-stench, free of stinkypig fascism, free of hopelessness, and free of that vile woman’s rampant criminality

    just try to understand

    i’m giving all i can

    cause of you got the best of me

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  44. I’m not doing *it* just for me i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. You’re not doing anything. Voting is not “logical pleasant” for you.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  46. today’s my Stranger Things marathon day is all

    Oh, good! Then you’ll understand what I mean when I say: “No.”

    When I say that, you have to imagine Eleven saying it. Then it makes more sense.

    Sorry, Colonel, I don’t mean to be a jerk when I say “No.” It’s just that, in my head, when I write that, I hear Eleven from Stranger Things saying it, and it’s funny to me.

    Watch the series and you’ll see what I mean.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  47. Dear Dana:

    You’re on your own this time.

    God

    Bill H (971e5f) — 9/3/2016 @ 9:27 am

    Yeah. I was afraid of that.

    Dana (995455)

  48. @33, I hate wrong poopers. They just won’t poop right.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  49. happyfeet,

    Why wasn’t Trump prepared and ready for the inevitable Friday-3-day-holiday-weekend news dump? Why wasn’t his team on top of this, and the candidate’s stubby fingers posed on the keypad ready to assault Clinton on whatever the media would try to slide by when no one was watching? It is utterly aggravating, and interestingly self-defeating that he is so bad at this.

    Dana (995455)

  50. happyfeet, you’ve been the poop police since when? When did you get your commission?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  51. Dana, I think Trump expects to lose. He sure isn’t trying to win very well.

    Clinton is such an awful candidate that he has a small chance.

    I have a theory.

    I think the original plan was for Hillary to run with Obama as VP in 2008. This would have, to DNC thinking, locked the White House down for 16 years.

    Except Hillary was such an awful candidate that Obama ate her lunch.

    I think it is the same thing with Trump. He wanted exposure and media without doing any work.

    Then the other candidates went away.

    So here we sit, choosing the kind of fecal material to put into our POTUS sandwich.

    Awful.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  52. i didn’t say “logical pleasant” i said logistical pleasant Mr. P

    Dana we can second-guess Mr. Trump all day long but that does nothing to diminish the righteousness of his quest

    everyone already knows stinkypig is a corrupt criminal liar, even her most ardent cnn propaganda sluts know this

    Mr. Trump’s message right now is one of outreach for so he can explain to african americans how bad he wants to help make sure they aren’t oppressed by pigonomics for the next four years

    I for one applaud his message discipline

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  53. See what I mean? Such energy put into not voting….but still moving his mouth with weirdo statements (while calling other people weirdoes, of course—sort of like Trump).

    Cruz Supporter, I understand your point of view, but I do not agree. I believe that honesty and consistency are important (honor, too, but I will take what I can get). I also think that the completely bizarre argument that Obama was “no different” from McCain or Romney is what helped create Trump’s doomed candidacy.

    Seriously, I keep reading former “conservative purists” (like Mr. Feet) insist that the current choice is so stark we MUST vote for Trump…while just a few years before there was “no difference” between Obama and candidates who are FAR more conservative than Trump has ever been.

    Hypocrisy is a terrible thing no matter who does it.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  54. Mr Jester,

    But Mr happyfeet isn’t on the ballot.
    This is not an election between Mr happyfeet vs Hillary vs Trump.
    So, sure, maybe Mr happyfeet didn’t vote or he made bad moral equivalencies in the past.

    But Hillary’s going to ram left wing garbage down our throats. She’s going to nominate left wing thugs to head the various federal agencies and bureaucracies. We can’t endure four more years of that. We just can’t.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  55. no i never said weirdo willard and food stamp were same same

    i rooted for weirdo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. Again, I understand your point of view, CS. I really do. I honor your honesty and sense of fairness, and lack of childishness.

    My point is that folks on the Right decided that they could get snarky and nasty and weird, just like the Left. The difference is that, when elections arrive, the Left all get into lockstep.

    The Right never has.

    So people who are more honorable than Trump (that means almost everyone), more honest than Trump (again, almost everyone), and more conservative than Trump (everyone except, I think, Kacich) were damaged in the eyes of the public. So they went for someone who seemed impervious to criticism.

    Except he is a terrible and lazy candidate.

    And I wonder what the effect will be if he DOES win? More Trump like people on both sides?

    I have always believed we ought to have a “None of the Above” option on ballots. And when that happens, the election has to start over.

    As it stands, we have awful choices. What I cannot abide are people trying to claim that voting for Trump is somehow a good thing.

    And here’s the thing. Over and over again, Trump gets wonderful opportunities to show he is able to be a real candidate. The closest he came to doing this was the Mexico visit. I also thought his visit to Louisiana was a good idea.

    But all the childish crap will cost him his chance.

    Again, what an awful choice. And I do think all the childish nastiness in the Body Politic has put us in this place.

    Your mileage may vary, and I wrote all the above while respecting your content and style.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  57. Oh, Mr. Feet. Do you really want me to chase down your sick and bizarre comments during the last election and post them?

    You know, another election in which you didn’t vote?

    Maybe you forget what you write. I hope so.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  58. i didn’t say “logical pleasant” i said logistical pleasant Mr. P

    Yes you did. It doesn’t make any more sense though.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  59. it means “inconvenient”

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. oh for the love of bacon jam Mr. Jester moveon dot org dot gov dot edu dot com dot eu

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. Yeah, you know the truth. You say you care about all this stuff, and you do not.

    Such a lazy hypocrite.

    It’s all about the yucks with you.

    Except no one is laughing but you.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  62. And on the subject of logistics, Mr. Feet, I’ll bet you folks in Chicago area would be happy to make sure you are registered to vote and do so.

    Because it is such an important election. Right?

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  63. No different or little different, there was a lot of that around here, Simon. And then beaucoup recriminations and condemnations of both candidates and anyone who supported either one.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  64. By the armchair generals who frequent this site. They know who they are.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  65. Colonel, I honestly believe that the false equivalences made all of this happen.

    Our whole culture suffers from it, and it breaks my heart that what I consider to be the party of freedom suffers too.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  66. She pulled the same stunt in the Whitewater investigation escaping prosecution because Starr’s deputy said despite the mountain of evidence they didn’t relish the idea of trying to win a criminal case against a First Lady in the DC circuit – nothing’s really changed since then they’re still chicken.

    The political case Trump and others should be pressing is the widespread utter disregard for communication security and the law by ALL the people involved in this mess. The government officials participating in Hillary’s homegrown communication network all work for Obama – he’s ultimately responsible. The lawlessness and corruption wouldn’t exist if he didn’t allow it. Rather than argue about why Hillary should’ve been indicted somebody should be pressing the case against Obama doing nothing to stop or punish Mills, Sullivan, Huma and the other hundreds of Obama appointees.

    Letting Hillary skate is bad. Letting them all skate is unimaginable.

    crazy (d3b449)

  67. Colonel, I have to admit to you that I have never ever voted in a Presidential election where I was 100% pleased with my choice. My first vote was Ford against Carter.

    So we may agree more than you suspect.

    I do detest all the silly name calling. That’s my quirk, perhaps, but I do think that a toxic political environment is not good.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  68. “Principled Republicans should vote Clinton and move us closer to a Cruz victory in 2020.”

    Sorry, Thor, as much as I like that guy and wanted him to be OUR guy, that dog won’t hunt. He’ll be fortunate to beat Rick Perry and hold his Senate seat.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  69. Dana we can second-guess Mr. Trump all day long but that does nothing to diminish the righteousness of his quest

    happyfeet,

    It’s one thing to plug your nose and vote Trump only to keep Hillary out. It’s one thing to fully understand that both candidates are dishonest, corrupt, and altogether lacking integrity and vote the lesser of two evils. That argument I can understand. And even respect. But, when you attempt to make Trump into this man of good character and noble intentions in his run for the presidency, then that is full-blown delusion. Don’t try to make me buy your bullshit. Because that’s what it is. Trump’s “quest” is no more righteous than Hillary’s. They’re both self-serving egoists who exist in insular bubbles of privilege and entitlement. And they’re both willing to do whatever it takes to attain more power. Let’s keep a realistic view of them, even if you are voting for one or the other. Deceiving yourself, and attempting to deceive others about them helps no one.

    Dana (995455)

  70. Yes, Simon, and I regret my many contributions to the less than optimal level of discourse. I have to fight my enjoyment of playing “the Dozens”, as I’ve always appreciated a well-played insult… either incoming, or outgoing.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  71. Simon, being an Orange County, Ca. kid, I’ve never even considered voting for a Democrat, as I’ve long sensed the biased environment the Dems have enjoyed, even as an 8-yr-old during the Kennedy-Nixon campaign. I detest most of the media.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  72. i don’t buy that narrative Dana I see in Mr. Trump a fundamentally good person

    flawed sure, but mostly in the sense that he’s a flawed politician

    he doesn’t meet all the cloying and insipid expectations people have no he does not

    but that we live in a society what produces Mr. Trumps is a good and wonderful and hopeful thing

    and he’s a good example for kids unlike stinkypig clinton who’s never had a real job her whole stinky life

    and he’s an American guy through and through, and he loves this country and he’ll try to put it back on track if we give him the chance

    a small fraction of stick-up-the-butt failmerica may find him just all too outre and rakish

    but not me

    i think he’s better than we could have hoped for this time around

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  73. Bet she doesn’t recall how to bake cookies, either.

    Maudie is more Nixon than Nixon.

    Let’s elect Trump just to spite her.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  74. It would not surprise me in the least if an updated dictionary in Russia (soon to be the reincarnated Soviet Union), has, under the heading “Useful Idiot”, a full color picture of Hillary Clinton.

    The more we see about her handling of classified information, the more it is apparent that she simply cannot be trusted around any classified information, let alone Top Secret and Special Category material. She is either totally incompetent, or she just doesn’t give a damn.

    Having at one time had both Top Secret and Special Category access, I know that material contains information that is extremely sensitive, the release or loss of which could lead to great harm to the national security (which is kinda the definition of the classification level). This idiot apparently doesn’t understand this.

    “Clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her cause for concern regarding classification…”. Really? Are you kidding me? A discussion of possible future military operations didn’t give her concern about classification? Words fail me.

    Bill M (906260)

  75. whoever wins though one person’s worked very hard to ensure he won’t have a seat at the table

    and that’s harvrardtrash ted

    he’s a very strategic person

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  76. oops *harvardtrash* ted i mean i accidentally spelled it wrong

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  77. @10/11 Hard to watch Mika anymore without wondering if she had her morning Joe before Morning Joe.

    They’ve really become a pair of media clowns. Management knows it. So they’ve shifted Wee Willie Winkie back in to bolster ratings.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  78. One way or the other, Cruz will spend the next four years working to keep the Washington elite honest. It is the same bully pulpit he used to catapult himself to national prominence and a second place finish. Only this time he will have the benefit of past experience and national prominence to propel him. Either nominee should provide ample opportunity for Cruz to do what he does best: shame the shameless. As the presumptive Republican nominee, he’ll be more formidable than ever. It is the one thing I’m looking forward to.

    I don’t think you understand how the Republican Party works (the Democratic Party works very much the same way). The first runner-up in one cycle is the nominee in the next. Nobody blamed first runner-up Romney for McCain’s defeat in 2008. To the contrary, they made Romney the nominee in the 2012 cycle. They blamed McCain for McCain’s defeat. Nobody blamed first runner-up Gingrich for Romney’s defeat. Instead, the nominee and first runner-up in this cycle were the two most Gingrich-like candidates in the field and Romney was blamed for the loss in 2012. Why should anyone believe it will be different this time around? I sure don’t.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  79. Basically, Hillary’s security was a mess because she did not give a shi-ite about it. After all, her “friends” across the world were above such things as petty politics and national interest. She and her UAE buddies and her jovial Russians will put on their thinking caps and keep the world stitched together at one CGI confab or the other, and they’ll all get rich too, but while doing good.

    I knew a judge who actually thought all the lawyers and doctors and investigators whose income depended on her rulings were her “friends” and that all their flattery was sincere. So willingly naive it’s disgusting.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  80. Sheesh. It’s difficult to imagine anyone being more cavalier with sensitive information. I can think of only one person who might be: Donald J. Trump.

    You think not.

    Billionaire deal makers are pretty responsible with sensitive information and know how to use it to their advantage with so much at $take. Like how much they’re truly worth; what they really pay in taxes; where they $helter investment$ offshore; the combination to Cliff Barnes’ safe… even the phone numbers of their adversaries mistresses… but the phone number of a certain southern senator… not so much.

    JR might not read everything thing but you’d lose the deed to your castle if you think he couldn’t follow the direction on how to bake a batch of cookies. Maudie… not so much.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  81. 80.One way or the other, Cruz will spend the next four years working to keep the Washington elite honest.

    Stale bread. He’s toast.

    Find a fresh loaf.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  82. you can tell he’s still thinking he could be president some day

    and everyone knows it

    that’s not healthy even for talented senators

    for him it’s an insurmountable impediment to success

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  83. Patterico,

    Why should Trump talk about the FBI release early in the weekend? You know he’s just going to say something at some rally on Monday or Tuesday about the FBI report showing that Hillary has brain damage. Then we’ll roll into the week with the talking heads going on and on with “Trump is lying about Hillary’s brain damage.” Then everyone will be talking about Hillary’s brain damage that she says she doesn’t have, she’s just really grossly incompetent.

    Xmas (3a75bb)

  84. The grapes sure are sour this political season.

    ThOR (c9324e)

  85. The hate of Murdoch and his puppets as well as Salem media communications sites and all the guests of these two conglomerates against Trump have easily identified themselves as pantsuit kitten boyz.

    mg (31009b)

  86. When Hillary drops out, these communication companies can go with her.

    mg (31009b)

  87. Nobody blamed first runner-up Romney for McCain’s defeat in 2008. Nobody blamed first runner-up Gingrich for Romney’s defeat.
    ThOR (c9324e) — 9/3/2016 @ 12:48 pm

    There was no apparent reason to blame Romney or Gingrich. You aren’t aware of any apparent reason to blame Cruz?

    Gerald A (76f251)

  88. My theories lately don’t turn out well. I wanted Ted Cruz, donated to Ted Cruz and did some work for Ted Cruz. I’m a loser.

    mg (31009b)

  89. @12 I’d prefer a binary choice between Hilary and … Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, Walker, Fiorina, et al …

    At the Trump inaugural, your ‘binary’ choice will be chicken or steak…

    Firoina will be your seating hostess; Perry will do stand-up (oops!- he’s got a million of ’em!); Rubio will bus tables; Cruz will keep the butter dishes and water glasses filled; Jindal will serve up the Trump steaks along the buffet table. Chef Christie- need we say more… with Walker washing dishes and Huckabee drying. Graham… your hat check girl, of course.

    And Jeb will park the limos (no tipping!)

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. it means “inconvenient”

    Right. You will not vote because it is inconvenient. That’s how much you care.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  91. Lol. That’s why Trump hires the very best people.

    https://apple.news/AcQmRHy4-QEKNLEON3hO1UQ

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  92. i have responsibilities you know

    i can’t make irresponsible choices like plopping myself into a jury pool next year

    especially not when my vote won’t make any difference

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  93. this show is really dark

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  94. i can’t make irresponsible choices like plopping myself into a jury pool next year

    I was already fine with your not voting. Now that you make this point, I’m especially at peace with the concept.

    Patterico (bcf524)

  95. On November 8, when you don’t vote for Trump, you’ll be voting for Hillary, happyfeet. You know that, right? That will make two of us, and she’ll clinch Illinois for sure.

    nk (dbc370)

  96. ok good I’m not a terrible person like Steve Harrington

    Mr. nk I’m a send out the white light for my boy don’t you worry

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  97. Will anyone be alive in Chicago to vote?

    mg (31009b)

  98. man it’s an abattoir out there huh

    i’m glad i have my lucky cap

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. The stockyards can be dangerous this time of year.

    mg (31009b)

  100. We only need 20. To vote in the Electoral College on December 19.

    nk (dbc370)

  101. With Hillary doubtful to finish, will they vote for The Johnson?

    mg (31009b)

  102. #96: Bravo, Patterico. You do have an interesting sense of humor.

    There is always someone at a poker game who just knows the right way to play a hand, but never antes in. They usually continually criticize how other people play the game, and try to tell them what would have been better.

    While not ante-ing-up.

    The folks who do ante in generally suggest that person either ante in, or shut up. It tends to interfere with the poker game. People who ante in have real skin in the game, no matter how they play.

    The other person, not so much.

    I have responsibilities you know” is right up there with “I work here is done” as #TrollTerminology

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  103. the dems want control over the words we speak, the air we breath, the contents of our mind, robin has diagrammed the soviet nature of contructivist education,

    narciso (732bc0)

  104. “I was already fine with your not voting. Now that you make this point, I’m especially at peace with the concept.”

    Patterico’s #NeverTrump aphasia now on to destroying the parts of his brain that can process sarcasm, having already destroyed his sense of humor, proportion, fair play.

    I’ll let @ClarkHat decide what to do with him after the election (note that getting into a woodchipper/no woodchipper binary with him is discouraged, better not to mention it at all.)

    No complaining, or I’ll send you to @AceofSpadesHQ instead, who seems to have dedicated today’s tweetstorm specifically to refuting this post.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  105. Right. You will not vote because it is inconvenient. That’s how much you care.

    Patterico (bcf524) — 9/3/2016 @ 1:30 pm

    What’s even worse about this is you, NK, Simon, me, and a few others have been just as vocal about not voting for Trump as happyfeet has been, but the “vote for Trump or else” crowd here has excoriated us, while letting happy slide. It’s almost like the reasoning is he’s for Trump, and that reason alone.

    Dou you think perhaps that not voting for Sir Hillary helps Trump? That’s the flip side of the logic I continually see from PTS, RKS, DNF, et al.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  106. had the trotskyites won, they would have likely done the same to the leninists, the new criterion link points how the terror began much earlier,

    narciso (732bc0)

  107. maybe I’m using too many complicated concepts, well going into the thickets eludes the point. she lied perhaps perjured herself re certifications on security, all to coverup up a multi continent enrichment scheme,

    narciso (732bc0)

  108. Mr happyfeet,

    You could deflect a lot of criticism if you were to announce that you just registered to vote.

    nk’s right … by not voting, you’re enabling stinkypig to win just as much as the holier-than-thou #NeverTrumpers who intend to spend Election Night playing games at Chuck E. Cheese.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  109. #58 Simon Jester,

    I don’t like Trump.
    I prefer Rubio, Jindal, Walker, Fiorina, and Cruz — although Ted really took a nosedive in my estimation.

    In war, we fight with the army we’ve got.
    The same with a nomination.
    And let’s be clear, this IS war.
    The left is evil, and ideally we must defeat them.
    But at the very least, we must stem the tide of the left, and that’s what we’ll accomplish by electing Trump over Hillary; we’ll stem the tide, at least for a little while.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  110. lets do more of this, shall we:

    https://twitter.com/cerenomri/status/771752331360636929

    narciso (732bc0)

  111. Someone has to replace the hag who is hiding in the closet. Soros/Murdoch/2016

    mg (31009b)

  112. especially not when my vote won’t make any difference

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/3/2016 @ 1:36 pm

    You may be shocked to learn there are other elected offices besides President.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  113. Stand down Joe

    mg (31009b)

  114. In any case, let this be a warning to Mika’s not so well hidden better half:

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-killed-by-police-in-round-lake/1497051/

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  115. The best thing going is mittens won’t get beat up by a chick on national T.V.

    mg (31009b)

  116. “You may be shocked to learn there are other elected offices besides President.”

    In an Era of Populist Feeling And Executive Action, they’re about as relevant to national governance as the Queen of England. They did not use their powers against the executive, and are already divided among themselves. Without their own Trump-like figure, they will remain divided and irrelevant, the least scary oligarchy in Washington.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  117. Probably we all agree that Clinton’s lies and behavior and likely crimes (had you law enforcement and prosecutor) are really extraordinary. Not just in their volume but in their depth, meaning the severity of potential consequence to the nation.

    Donald Trump, on the other hand, what has he done that even comes close to Clintons transgressions that causes such hatred by the NeverTrumpers?

    Their attacks, like Patterico’s, are juvenile and presumptuous: Trump can’t or doesn’t read and he’s a moron. Really? How do you come to this conclusion?

    And he’s so awful that the NeverTrumpers would rather have Hillary?

    Really… and with her election the likely demise of any near term hope of conservatism regaining a foothold in the US government?

    So what has Trump done that is so incredibly damning and horrible?

    I’ve looked, but it all seems pretty small ball. He’s by no means perfect, but one does not become a real estate billionaire by being perfect.

    Nor does one become a senator or governor.. any senator or governor… without some type of questionable choices.

    Look in the closets of any one running for president in the real world, and you’ll find something that probably disgusts you.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  118. I’m sure he will come to the wrong conclusions, re causes,

    http://lawofficer.com/2016/09/request-made-to-illinois-governor-for-chicago-state-of-emergency/

    narciso (732bc0)

  119. Yeah, too bad no Pate Philip around anymore. I still always prefer the “modern Japanese Army at the end of The Last Samurai” approach to civic unrest. They just need to do a way with the 7 page contact report, reinstate the Special Ops Services, and hire 600 young dependent-less cops.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  120. See, NY and Cali share the same crap gun laws. But NY prosecutors put more weight on the gun charge than the crime. Such as the NFL player who shot himself in the foot. Cali regretfully went on its prison reforms which reintroduced black on black crime to 1980s levels in South LA.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  121. “104. There is always someone at a poker game who just knows the right way to play a hand, but never antes in. They usually continually criticize how other people play the game, and try to tell them what would have been better.”

    You realize that you’ve just described Patterico and Dana and a bunch of the other posters here, right? Always bitching and moaning about what Trump *should* have done in his campaign?

    And oddly enough never noticing that his, ahem, unconventional campaigning beat the snot out of 16 other “well qualified” Republican candidates. While spending pocket change while the others were spending hundreds of millions of dollars.

    The True Conservative establishment — NRO, Weekly Standard, G. Will, etc. — have been shoveling sh*t on him and dumping on him for over a year. And he won handily. He’s letting them dig their own graves — and they don’t even notice that they’re getting deeper and deeper. All without him saying a word against them, just maybe a tweet now and then. But TRUMP is the incompetent one who can’t run a campaign.

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  122. Hillary can’t remember what she ate for breakfast, and she thought those funny markings on classified materials were just something for Pokemon Go!

    When the 3AM phone call from Benghazi came in, she was taking a nap.

    Yeah, let’s give this old hag the keys to 1600 Penn Ave! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  123. “124. Donald Trump, on the other hand, what has he done that even comes close to Clintons transgressions that causes such hatred by the NeverTrumpers? ”

    As for the various “True Conservative establishment” #neverTrumpers (NRO, Wkly Standard, the neocons, the TV talking heads, Wolfowitz, etc.) it’s almost as if they were some wing of a generic “uni-party” type club of which they are the Washington General branch. The designated losers who are getting paid to fulfill the roll of losing.

    As for the various blogger #neverTrumpers, some of them are just mobies & trolls, some of them are just stupid, some of them fell in love with their candidate and can’t get over that their guy lost, some of them have gone into the neverTrump rabbit-hole and got lost in it, some of them are just virtue signalling.

    These ones hang out at blogs and a dozen or two shout and shriek and think that since all 10 regulars agree that Trump is dirt, that the entire nation thinks the same way. Even when it is pointed out to them that they are in an echo chamber, they don’t get it.

    For some of them (actually, I think, a lot of them) got the idea in theit heads that all the Kool Kids hate Trump, so they are mimicking the Kool Kids, thinking that this will make themselves become a Kool Kid, too. The Russians had a phrase for this class of people. “Useful Idiots”

    fred-2 (ce04f3)

  124. Dear fred-2:

    “…You realize that you’ve just described Patterico and Dana and a bunch of the other posters here, right?…”

    Um, no. My point is that Mr. Feet goes on and on about politics, coming up with infantile names for politicians he doesn’t like, insisting that we must all support his candidate….and doesn’t vote.

    Hasn’t voted.

    Carried on the same way for the last several elections.

    Says he is too busy to vote.

    Kind of a different deal. I’ll take as many Pattericos and Danas as you can find, given the kinds of contributions they make.

    But please carry on.

    Do notice, by the way, the difference in the way you communicate your differences of opinion, and the way that, say, Cruz Supporter or the Colonel do.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  125. well there are reasons for some skepticism, seeing some of his previous positions and little appreciable evolution, there are other positions that he has held for the last 30 years, but corrosive cynicism ala buzzfeed and puffington host, isn’t helpful.

    narciso (732bc0)

  126. I don’t know if pikachu, really does vote or not, but that is the default strategy that has been adopted here, or endorsing the most ridiculous libertarian since bill maher,

    narciso (732bc0)

  127. If we’re so insignificant, why does poor fred-2 waste his time coming here and writing half-page comments? To set us straight? Or to patch the pricks in his own bubble?

    nk (dbc370)

  128. No, narciso. With respect, the two are not equivalent. When a person actively argues that one should vote for a person, carries oceans of water for that person, ridicules opponents of that person…and yet is “too busy” to vote for that person…well, it speaks to sincerity, if nothing else.

    Especially when you discover the same pattern in the last two Presidential elections.

    YMMV.

    Simon Jester (cff76b)

  129. Someone upthread claims I think Hillary needs to be President. Not so. I think she will be a very poor president but is less dangerous than Trump. I’m not saying this as some pathetic campaign. Vote your conscience. It’s your right. It you prefer Trump over Hillary in this race to the bottom, that’s understandable.

    Dustin (a3f7c9)

  130. Take another hit of acid and get to the burning man, Dustin. Hillary deserves to be in jail.

    mg (31009b)

  131. Good point

    Dustin (85a4a6)

  132. @94 happyfeet

    Around here they draw jury pools through the DMV records. I suppose its the one upside to a DUI.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  133. @97 nk

    If Hillary had run for governor of Illinois, she’d be in jail for sure by now.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  134. @112 Cruz Supporter

    Even a douche can irrigate a wound in the body politic.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  135. You have been summoned as a prospective juror in the circuit court to render interesting and important service. Your name was drawn by lot from the combined lists of registered voters, unemployment claimants, licensed drivers, holders of Illinois Identification Cards and Illinois Disabled Person Identification Cards who reside in this county. All of those so drawn constitute the group from which jurors will be selected to hear particular cases.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  136. @120 narciso

    Suppose Trump went full New York Don and had the moderator’s families kidnapped?

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  137. Just wait until the debates. Hillary’s strategy will be to bait Trump into a meltdown. I have 6 minutes in the office pool.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  138. @142 happyfeet

    Congratulations! You got an interview for a job that pays twenty five bucks a day.

    Say, we have all of these unemployed people on welfare. Why not make them sit on a jury so we productive people can get stuff done?

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  139. nonono i haven’t been summoned cause of i’m not on their radar

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  140. if you get on their radar you’re screwed cause of there is many crime here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  141. @144 Kevin M

    There should be a binary seizure/meltdown pool.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  142. @146 hf

    I’m sure in Chicago you can pay a guy twenty bucks to vote for you. Try Home Depot.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  143. there’s one north of me that’s a good idea

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  144. How are federal jury pools gathered? Do they choose among the 18,000 tax returns that use a single address in Atlanta or what?

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  145. Home Depot carries a lot of radar dampening goods.

    Now that the mobile library is obsolete how about we fit one up with voting booths and come to you? The rest of the time we can change them out for video poker machines.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  146. @146 hf

    If a judge says “happyfeet” three times in a mirror will that summon you?

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  147. I hope Hillary makes the debates. Trump will ride roughshod all over the lying lesbian. Since Steven K has climbed aboard the Trump train, changes for the better have been happening. I do miss Bannon on Sirius every morning, but so far it has been worth it. Hope you constitutionalists can keep from shooting Trump.

    mg (31009b)

  148. nonono i’m off the radar for now

    i have my own agenda

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  149. Trump needs to go after obamacare as it is imploding. Some states may just listen and swing over from the L.L.

    mg (31009b)

  150. obamacare lol

    failmerica’s medical system

    obama did him a spiked dildo all up in it (with malice)

    nevertrumpies say four more years

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  151. people what are more messed up in the head than stinkypig are include fiona apple and colin powell’s nutter wife

    that is all

    but it’s enough i think

    don’t you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  152. If a judge says “happyfeet” three times in a mirror will that summon you?

    oh btw i looked up winona on the imdb cause of we hadn’t caught up in awhile

    says she’s attached to Beetlejuice 2

    like that’s a thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  153. @159 hf

    Now that’s an attachment that Hillary would click on. Winona’s Big Brown Beaver.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  154. @154 mg

    If it comes down to it the Democrats will wheel her in like Captain Pike. This I can tell you.

    Pinandpuller (71d9ec)

  155. If she makes it, the L.L. will only get 37% of the vote. The trouble will be the dolts controlling the electoral criminals.

    mg (31009b)

  156. Our regulatory, administrative superstate, however, has replaced the sovereignty of the American people with the sovereignty of unelected and unaccountable Washington bureaucrats. While the American people can replace the members of Congress, they cannot replace the unelected bureaucrats who have promulgated 600 major rules over the last seven years that will have an estimated cost of billions to implement. Those rules are among the man-made headwinds that are strangling economic growth, keeping wages stagnant and forcing jobs overseas.

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    When you couple the regulatory leviathan with our broken appropriations process, where Congress gets cornered into take-it-or-leave-it omnibus spending bills that grotesquely limit its spending power, the legislative branch today exercises far less authority than the Constitution grants to it.

    What then, of the Presidential election? The simple fact is that only one of the candidates will sign our proposals. Indeed, Donald Trump has committed to signing the REINS Act, which requires congressional approval before major rules and regulations become effective. Significantly, the REINS Act represents the most far-reaching restoration of congressional constitutional authority in history.

    Ah but the #nevertrump “parade of lies” marches on up each other’s ‘tocks.

    DNF (755a85)

  157. 154. #nevertrump will be a rounding error in the eventual vote, not even matching the illegals.

    10% of the voters will make their decision the week of, even in the boothes and Satan’s Bag Lady will represent continued ‘malaise’.

    DNF (755a85)

  158. Beside faking the entire motivation for an Iran detente, led by Rhodes:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/264044/obama-faked-iran-nuclear-compliance-secret-daniel-greenfield#.V8iHYLJLDwc.twitter

    Treason one more time, and not the last.

    DNF (755a85)

  159. I worked in Caracas on two separate occasions back in the 90s:

    http://www.watcherofweasels.org/venezuelans-give-their-take-on-communism/

    But here #nevertrump slapstick pronounces “What me worry?”

    DNF (755a85)

  160. #nevertrump votes to wipe these people from the face of the Earth:

    http://kador.livejournal.com/1355211.html?_utm_source=1-2-2

    DNF (755a85)

  161. #nevertrump shysters not aware others behave as they themselves live and breathe:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/secret-trump-vote-independents-dems-lying-to-pollsters/article/2600642

    DNF (755a85)

  162. As of today, it has been 273 (call it an absolute zero) days since Clinton’s last formal press conference on December 4, 2015, something even the left-leaning WaPo and NYT have expressed outrage against. Naturally, as questions mount if and when the Democratic Presidential candidate will finally speak to the press, overnight Clinton’s press secretary, Brian Fallon, had some good news, when he assured an ABC News podcast that she will hold regular press conferences, but under one condition.

    That she is president, or as Nancy Pelosi might put it, “you have to elect her, to ask her questions.”

    DNF (755a85)

  163. My friend in the beltway sums up the week.

    narciso (732bc0)

  164. “If we’re so insignificant, why does poor fred-2 waste his time coming here and writing half-page comments? To set us straight? Or to patch the pricks in his own bubble?”

    Occasionally nk, Dustin, and Pat LARP as honest, forthright, principled men, which can confuse the more honest commenters.

    Once you realize that they’re here to be pinatas rather than allies, you can form a more healthy, everyday sadomasochistic relationship. They love getting humiliated, in fact, they feed on it. Give them what they want!

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  165. In need of ‘RESET’:

    Of course, the big news of this weekend’s G-20 event was neither the summit, nor the communique, but the unprecedented and prearranged snub by China targeting president Obama, who after an unexpected show of solidarity on Saturday over the global effort to address climate change, was humiliated by China when Obama arrived at Hangzhou Xiaoshan airport, when as reported earlier, first the receiving China delegation made sure there was no staircase for Obama to exit the plane and descend on the red carpet; the president of the world’s most powerful nation was thus forced to use an emergency exit for his final arrival in China as commander in chief.

    Then, around the time Obama was exiting through the emergency staircase, a Chinese official attempted to block national security adviser Susan Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes after they lifted a blue rope holding back press and walked to the other side of it, closer to Obama. A member of the Chinese delegation began shouting at White House staff, demanding the pool leave the arrival scene. A White House official said Obama was our president and Air Force One was our plane and that the press was not going to move from the designated area. The Chinese official angrily responded “This is our country. This is our airport.”

    The scandals continued later, with members of the Chinese and US delegations coming close to throwing punches at each other: as we previously reported, two Chinese officials – one working to assist the American delegation – had to be physically separated after trying to hit each other outside an event.

    As the WSJ adds, “the Chinese barred Mr. Obama from including his traveling press contingent in his motorcade. The hosts also have refused a White House request for a joint press conference with Mr. Xi, and they plan to block Mr. Obama’s solo press briefing from airing live on Chinese television.”

    In short, the fate of G-20 meeting was fixed: no matter what was decided, it would forever be remember as the event where China snubbed the US president in an unprecedented fashion one final time.

    Hillary will teach them a ting or two.

    DNF (755a85)

  166. hillary knows it feels good when huma does that thing

    beyond that she really likes saul alinsky

    she’s a stinkypig stinkypig

    she’s super stinky

    don’t tell dustin you’ll ruin it for him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  167. Indeed, Donald Trump has committed to signing the REINS Act, which requires congressional approval before major rules and regulations become effective. Significantly, the REINS Act represents the most far-reaching restoration of congressional constitutional authority in history.

    So, El Tupe has promised that as President he will willingly give up some of the powers of the Executive branch?

    And you actually believe that?

    kishnevi (050eae)

  168. oh please hear my prayer mitt romney jesus i’m so worried what mr. Trump will do with executive powerz

    please to let stinkypig save us

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  169. Just wait until the debates. Hillary’s strategy will be to bait Trump into a meltdown. I have 6 minutes in the office pool.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/4/2016 @ 2:13 am

    ========================================

    They lied to you. You have 20 minutes in the office barrel.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  170. hgosts apepar dna edaf waya

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  171. tim tebow, who is not a flaming homosexual, is in fact a 29 year old virgin as of 8/14!

    praise mitt romney jesus!

    why isn’t there a post on this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  172. his chastity is so cool i love how he never sleeps with girls it’s so manly and christian

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  173. Can’t overlook the decision on Olivia Culpo though, unless she was a Raimondo (Trumps opponent in 2020) surrogate.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  174. So a committed Christian get proscribed twice, and a smarmy tackling dummy doesn’t get cut.

    narciso (732bc0)

  175. Coronello, I thought you might appreciate this. And, mabbe others, too.

    https://www.carid.com/1978-dodge-aspen-engine-parts/

    I’m speechless. You can even get a new bumpstick.

    Dodge Aspen 1978, Engine Camshaft by Sealed Power®. Designed utilizing the latest technology, this product by Sealed Power features premium quality and will perform better than advertised. Perfect for your vehicle and lifestyle…

    more details on – https://www.carid.com/1978-dodge-aspen-engine-parts/

    Why in the HOLY HELL would you repair a 1978 Dodge Aspen?

    Sincerely confused.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  176. hgosts apeapr dna edaf waya

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  177. a smarmy tackling dummy doesn’t get cut.

    They know where the money is. Smarmy’s jersey has had a sudden upsurge in popularity.
    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/9/3/12786188/colin-kaepernick-jersey-sales-49ers

    kishnevi (050eae)

  178. if the nfl’s gone full-on kaepernick faggy why doesn’t timmah get to play

    it’s not fair

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  179. i’m making a protest poster right now

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  180. hey poopers who took my glitter pen

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  181. There’s a lot to like about MOPAR. But buy the whole damned thing. That means the ’69 Charger, or putting up with the wasteland years and getting the occasional nugget like the Li’l Red Truck. Or the man wagon or if you can afford it the Viper.

    I once looked into re-engining a Chyrysler Cordoba with the 5.7L Hemi. Because they were just both there. I could have funded the next moon launch.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  182. http://blog.dodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1978-Dodge-Lil-Red-Express-Truck.jpg

    It’s kind of funny I wasn’t into this as my first car (that I bought, didn’t inherit) was a ’68 Ranchero.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  183. fatso with a catheter up her pantsuit could float away if she keeps bloating.
    I would like that.

    mg (31009b)

  184. “…raising the minimum wage and focusing on small business…”

    Yes, Congressman Gregory Meeks (D), you’ve captured the Democrats’ economic plan… well done, sir.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  185. With the electronics, programming, ECUs, etc., involved, changeover to the modern engines are a nightmare, Steve.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  186. c’mon and let him know

    should timmah stay or should he go

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  187. I’m still all kinds of amused you can get a brand new camshaft for a ’78 Aspen.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  188. “Teh 1978 Dodge Aspen. If you can find a better car, buy it!”

    — Lee I’moncoca

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  189. @192, and the ’32 Ford shall stay the ’32 Ford.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  190. Speaking of old Fords, I always preferred the ’80 Reagan to the ’76 Ford!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  191. I’m sorry, CS, I’m not done laughing at teh Dodge Aspen. Were you even around in 1978?

    I’d fix ten AMC Eagles before I’d fix an Aspen.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  192. OK, I was off by a year. The AMC Eagle didn’t make it onto the scene until 1979.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Eagle

    So, sue me.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  193. happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/3/2016 @ 9:33 am

    james comey should be in jail with the pig i think

    I understood today, from listening to what former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said, and didn’t say, on Face the Nation, that Comey lied about an incident in 2004, when he and White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card maybe tried to get then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, who was in the hospital, to sign something that had to do with anti-terrorism measures. I think maybe with continuing some kind of surveillance program. Gonzales was White House counsel at the time.

    John Dickerson asked a question, alluding to the fact that it is in the book Gonzales had just published, about something whose source is apparently Comey – I think Dickerson may even have mentioned that there are different versions of what happened there – and Gonzales said he wrote about it in his book (but he would not repeat, even extremely briefly, what it was that was in the book) and he said, more than once, that he had testified under oath.

    I think what Gonzales had to say was that Comey’s story was not true. I should know more about this.

    I don’t know if Comey was also under oath.

    Gonzales said that he and Andrew Card discussed Ashcroft’s condition before they went to the hospital and that if he were incapicitated they wold not have asked him to sign anything. I also recall that Ashcroft refused to sign it, although I am not sure if that was on the merits or because he felt he should not make a decision then. I should know more about this.

    Gonzales also said that members of the Congressional Committee he spoke to (before the hospital incident I think) wanted to continue the program. And then the next week there was the Madrid bombings.

    This was some kind of issue with some Democrats. The issue maybe was that it was illegal but some Justice Department lawyers said that could be fixed by Ashcroft signing something. Or was theer something due to expire? I think in the end maybe somebody else signed.

    This came out years – or at least a year or two – after the fact, but I think while Bush was still president.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  194. Col., that’s a rich mans drug. But yet it was being pro-life and not a coke fiend that cost him Dem backing for the prize. Could have changed a lot of history.

    urbanleftbehind (419038)

  195. corrupt fbi poofterslut james comey waves in the wind

    please to not hold him accountable for anything

    FBI director says he’s no longer a registered Republican

    he’s a lot like his corrupt harvardtrash poofterpal patrick fitzgerald

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  196. To think Patrick Fitzgerald was always mentioned as a great could-have-been for Illinois statewide office.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  197. Comey was not in the FBI at the time, bit was in the Justice Department.

    Here’s something about all this:

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/what-the-ashcroft-hospital-showdown-on-nsa-spying-was-all-about/

    Comey went public in 2007, in forums favorable to the Democrats. I think it is possible that Comey wanted to limit NSA surveillance in order to protect corruption and bog-time criminals. There may be other arguments for limiting it, but that’s what I think was his motive – at least maybe to help lawyers in private criminal lucrative criminal defense practice, where he perhaps, at the time, was thinking of going.

    The NSA surveillance was limited to foreign intelligence matters, but it could slop over, or be extended, and the terrorist groups could also strike an alliance with criminals, or use the same people for money laundering and so on. And then some people engaged in big time drug smuggling maybe might get caught in the net and then they wouldn’t have the money to pay their lawyers. That’s the way I’m thinking, because I don’t think Comey was honest.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  198. “In short, the fate of G-20 meeting was fixed: no matter what was decided, it would forever be remember as the event where China snubbed the US president in an unprecedented fashion one final time.”

    Obama is no Richard Nixon.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  199. That’s the way I’m thinking, because I don’t think Comey was honest.

    i’ve reluctantly come to that conclusion as well

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  200. Hillary was really an unimaginative, plodding, liar.

    She said she thought a “C” marked on an official US document indicates the alphabetical hierarchy of a paragraph (e.g. paragrahp A, then B, then C) and does not mean “C” for Classified.

    I would have expected her to say she thought it stood for Copyright, and meant that it should not be circulated further, or copied.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  201. PTS (ce7fc3) — 9/3/2016 @ 7:14 pm

    Trump can’t or doesn’t read and he’s a moron. Really? How do you come to this conclusion?

    Well, there was the time in the 1980s when somebody gave him a book about Adolf Hitler, and he put it by his bed, and he didn’t even realize, much later, that it was not Mein Kamph but a book of Hitler’s speeches. (in the Mark Singer book about Trump)

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  202. Links are available at the page. Should you be interested.

    http://www.valdezflyin.com/

    Clear skies greeted pilots Saturday morning in Valdez for the 2016 Valdez Fly In. 40 planes flew out to Hinchinbrook Island for the Beach Landing and Poker Run. In the afternoon, the STOL competition was held. The 13th annual competition featured a wide range of aircraft from Chinook Ultralights to a Pilatus Porter performing in front of a crowd of more than 2,000…

    Steve57 (747e61)

  203. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/4/2016 @ 8:18 am

    Yes, Congressman Gregory Meeks (D), you’ve captured the Democrats’ economic plan… well done, sir.

    Jill Stein was worse – and she also hid that she, or her platforn, anti-Israel.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  204. Hillary got asked numerous quesiton about e-mail about a drone strike, Evidentaly there was an extended discussion about whether or not a certain drone strike should take place in Pakistan.

    The FBI asked her separately each and every e-mail.

    The problem is that it was illegal (unless you say it fell under self-defense) and a violation of Pakistani sovreignty, and all drone strikes outside of Pakistan and Iraq were done, not by the military but by the CIA, and as a result were classified secret in a way that military secrets were not. They were secret really for diplomatic and maybe legal reasons. Like the secret bombing of Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam War.

    Hillary tried to make people believe that a request to print a New York Times article about drone strikes was what all the retroactive classification business was about.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  205. I told you that clintonemail.com had better security than GMail or state.gov or just about anybody else:

    Whenever Clinton acquired new mobile devices, Cooper [the SYSOP of clintonemail.com -SF] was usually responsible for setting up the new devices and synching them to the server.

    This could mean that only certain devices could connect, and they had to be personally approved by the SYSOP in order to successfully log in

    [unless it means that he arranged it so that the Blackberry or Ipad could use that as an ISP. It depends on whether the synching only had to be done at the Blackberry or Ipad end]

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  206. Hillary Clinton made a number of preposterous statements, in addirion to claiming not to recall things.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  207. Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/4/2016 @ 2:13 am

    Hillary’s strategy will be to bait Trump into a meltdown. I have 6 minutes in the office pool.

    That’s exactly what they told the New York Times, and they said there were three things they thought Donald Trump was sensitive about. One was the amount of his wealth.

    My feeling is, she’ll mention that, but that’s not really the strategy. It may be to get him to argue about something and defend a statement where he’s both clearly wrong, and the issue doesn’t matter.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  208. I,we pointed out the context of that particular msdting that Gonzalez attended, the nsa (stellar wind) surveillance was slated to lapse that night, the next day, the trains exploded in Madrid. How is it i remember thus and they don’t.

    narciso (732bc0)

  209. Richard fernandez describes how we are thAT different from volodya’s kingdom in Structure, not purpose.

    narciso (732bc0)

  210. all the boys like nancy cause of she’s so pretty

    and smart too

    she’s the whole package

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  211. The first 3 months of Hillary Clinton’s e-mails as Secretary of State are not preserved. So how could she have an e-mail from Colin Powell from January 22, 2009?

    I thought Colin Powell said anyway he wrote an e-mail later than that, one year into her tenure.

    Colin Powell is now said to have told her that if her use of her Blackberry became “public” her emails could become a part of “official record and subject to the law.”

    He is also supposed to have said:

    “Be very careful. I got around it by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data.”

    Earlier it was reported that Hillary Clinton had said there was a meeting with several former Secretaries of State at the home of Madeline Albright which Henry Kissinger and Condoleezza Rice
    also attended, at which Albright asked each of the former Secretarues of State for one salient bit of counsel, and Powell supposedly said she should use hwer own e-mail. Powell said in August he had dno memory of that.

    He also said to People maqazine that her people were trying to pin this on him.

    And he issued a statement saying that his use of private email was discussed in Chaprter 16 of his 2012 book “It Worked For Me” and that he had sent an e-mail discussing his e-mailing more than a year after she started using it, and that he had no copy of the email but perhaps the FBI or Hillary Clinton did.

    And now we’re hearing an e-mail from Colin Powel was sent on January 22, 2009? In which he almost sounds like he’s conspiring with her to evade Freedom of Information Act requests? I don’t think Colin Powell is all that honest, but still, what’s going on here?

    Colin Powell also said in his statement in August that he had the private e-mail to encourage them to improve their system. What’s in the book was that at that time most State Department computers were not connected to the Internet, and at the desks that had some connectivity, there were usually two computers, both connected to internal State Department networks, one classified and one unclassified. The only Internet access was through dedicated computers shared either by an entire office or an entire floor.

    He talks more about the connections with the embassies. They eventually decided they could use the Internet for a lot of things.

    He says he installed a laptop computer on a private (land)line. That way he could send e-mail to his principal assistants, or ambasssadors, or even to foreign ministers of other countries. One who refused to go online was Igor Ivanov, the Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation. So as a result he was able to quickly look up something via Google (a prior United Nations resolution) and tell him exactly where a proposed Russian resolution contradicted an earlier UN resolution (as his staff in New York was saying, but he was not familiar with the details)

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  212. nancy knows all about sharks to where she can draw upon her shark knowledge and formulate strategies

    she’s amazing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  213. 206. The issue had to do with the collection of Internet metadata with at least one endpoint outside the United States for the most part (to get which messages actually had to be scanned) for possible later data mining.

    I think maybe this used to be re-authorized every month or so or whatever and Comey didn’t want to put his name on it.

    The ars technica article says:

    This, then, was almost certainly the problem that provoked the hospital showdown. The interception of phone and e-mail content was clearly electronic surveillance, but it was (in theory) limited to targets within the scope of the AUMF (which allowed the president to “determine” who had “aided” the 9/11 perpetrators). The bulk collection of phone records was not limited, but it also wasn’t “electronic surveillance” as defined by FISA. The bulk collection of Internet metadata, however, was both plainly “electronic surveillance” and also too broad to shoehorn into the language of the AUMF….

    …Of course, we now know that after the hospital showdown, the administration simply went to the FISA court and obtained a blanket “pen register” order allowing the metadata collection to continue, this time with legal cover (though the Court apparently imposed stricter limits than the NSA’s own lawyers did).

    This particular type of bulk Internet metadata collection was reportedly halted in 2011. What the NSA is doing now instead is anybody’s guess.

    AUMF = Authorization for the Use of Military Force, passed in 2001, authorizing the war in Afghanistan, among otehr things..

    The showdown is described as follows:

    The infamous showdown took place in March 2004, while Ashcroft was recovering from illness in a hospital bed. Acting attorney general James Comey—now President Obama’s nominee to head the FBI—was refusing to reauthorize one component of the secret surveillance program. Comey concluded that it was illegal. This prompted White House counsel Alberto Gonzales to rush to Ashcroft’s hospital room in hopes of getting the ailing AG to countermand Comey, who was tipped off about Gonzales’ plan and sped there as well.

    In the confrontation that ensued, Ashcroft supported Comey both formally (because Comey was legally the attorney general while Ashcroft was incapacitated) and on the legal substance. Bush reauthorized the program despite the Justice Department’s conclusion that it was unlawful. Comey then threatened to resign—with Ashcroft, FBI director Robert Mueller, and other top officials reportedly ready to join him. Bush ultimately backed down, and the troublesome program was briefly suspended until it could be renewed under a different legal authority.

    Sammy Finkelman (9570ad)

  214. actually no, the administration’s projects under prism and tempora, were magnitudes larger than what stellar wind contemplated

    narciso (732bc0)

  215. All the pigs have been fed and are ready to fly. Just did my final pre-flight.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  216. Col. H, would you like to make a $100 side bet on whether Perry tries to primary Cruz? We’ll let any neutral party you nominate hold it until the 2018 Texas GOP primary ballot is finalized. I think you have a very serious misconception about what opinions are the ground are in Texas, where more people turned out just to vote for Cruz in the 2016 primary, among six candidates including Trump, than voted in the entire 2012 GOP primary? Perry has better sense. He’s 66 years old, he served longer as Texas governor than anyone in history, but he’s not very rich and he can make money and have more influence on the sidelines than he could as a junior senator in Washington.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  217. like next time don’t send email, or make sure each recipient has bleachbit,

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/labor-secretary-clinton-has-learned-a-lot-from-email-scandal/

    narciso (732bc0)

  218. clearly who commissioned those polls, the hutchinson-dewhurst axis as trial balloon,

    narciso (732bc0)

  219. A computer technician can often recover such e-mails that have been deleted but not permanently erased from a laptop’s memory.

    There was also a thumb drive with a copy of the archive that disappeared.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  220. you also fail to consider sammeh, that they were likely on colin’s server, which was hacked by guccifer btw, the original ones were destroyed by bleach bit.

    narciso (732bc0)

  221. 228. Bleachbit was used by the Colorado firm.

    In December, 2014, after Hillary Clinton’s ;awyers had settled with the state Department of John Kerry, but before anything became public, they told the company in Colorado to delete its backup.

    (The New York Times story wrongly says “A year earlier”

    But they beglected to do so.

    After the private email became public in March, 2015, the person in Colorado realized that he neglected it and proceeded to delete ithe e-amails in the most through possible way.

    Now Mrs. Clinton had already been told by the committee not to delete anything. She claims they had no further contact or at least responsibility for the deletion that took place after that, because ghis was just the guy rememering to do something he had forgotten or neglected to do in December.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  222. About that UJSB drive with the contents of Hillary’s email:

    I suppose it could always turn up if needed, like the Rose Law Firm billing records. Maybe after the Statute of Limitations has expired.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-found-at-white-house.html?pagewanted=all

    The release of the records is the latest of several instances in which the Clinton White House has declared a document search to be exhaustive, only to later stumble on important material. For example, White House officials initially said that Vincent W. Foster Jr., the deputy White House counsel, left no indication of why he committed suicide on July 20, 1993. But later, an aide found the remnants of a note describing Mr. Foster’s disenchantment with Washington.

    [Note: An almost certain forgery, by the way. But mention of the Wall Street Journal in that note reminded me of the e-mail I sent to president@whitehouse.gov, routed through Rochester, on July 19, 1993, but which would not have been delivered – and possibly printed out – until July 20. It mentioned the July 19, 1993 Wall Street Journal editorial about Vincent Foster and I used it to to “prove” that reporters knew more than what they wrote. And I said reporters would be released from their pledges of confidentiality if the FBI Director was fired. And I mentioned in particular what the FBI Director could say about Waco – how he was kept from the scene and how hisis water cannon plan was rejected in favor of tear gas. I had mentioned this on RIME just a day or two before – and lo, they produced this note. I think they maybe didn’t even find or notice the printed out e-mail till I mentioned it.]

    Mr. Kendall said the Rose billing records were discovered in the White House on Thursday night by Carolyn Huber, a White House aide and former office manager of the Rose firm. He also said Mrs. Clinton was not aware until today that the records had been in the White House.

    Henry F. Schuelke, a lawyer for Mrs. Huber, said tonight that she found the records in a storage area in the third-floor private residence at the White House where unsolicited gifts to the President and First Lady are stored before being sorted and catalogued.

    Mr. Schuelke said Mrs. Huber did not know who placed the records in the storage area or how long the material might have been there. “It could have been there for months,” he said. “She has no idea how long it was there.”

    Note: There is some suspicion those billing records were forged – that is, written or altered years after the fact – to make her look like she did some legitimate legal work for Madison Guaranty, or more work than she did.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  223. Theer may be a contradiction between Huma Abedin and otehr State Department employees.

    Three career State Department employees who are dilomatic security agents say she always kept her Blackberry in her desk drawer on the seventh floor where she worked, which is a Secure Compatmented Information Facility, where such wireless devices are not supposed to be. (that’s because they could be turned into eavesdropping devices if hacked, or used by the owner to record meetings or photograph things if properly set up to do so.)

    But Huma Abedin says she took it out to check Blackberry, often going to the 8th floor balcony.

    She apparently never went into the room where a private computer had been put for her convience.

    say she always kept her Blackberry

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  224. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/3/2016 @ 12:28 pm

    Maudie is more Nixon than Nixon.

    How do you cvompare Hillary Clinton to the character “Maude?”

    Maude was honest.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  225. nancy’s room has the best wallpaper even if you had a really bad day you can go into her room and

    it’s gonna be ok

    stop freaking out

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  226. narciso (732bc0) — 9/4/2016 @ 11:30 am

    you also fail to consider sammeh, that they were likely on colin’s server, which was hacked by guccifer btw, the original ones were destroyed by bleach bit.

    Colin didn’t have a server. He wa smaybe still using his AOL account in the beginning of 2009. Or something. Guccuifer never got into that. he got into sidney Blumenthal’s email.

    Gheer werfe nunberous attacks made on her account or the server, probably dictionary attacks, The serrver wass shut maybe afew times to thwart them. One of Bill Clinton’s aides successfully got hacked, but that probably would be because he gave away the password – or his password was the dsame as the one he used somewhere else. Hillary once got a email from a porn site, which she apparently did not click on.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  227. the parallels are closer to the ware spy ring, and senator gerald nye’s staff, and alger hiss, soviet policy with the comintern was to make western rearmament, more difficult, the nye committee reopening records from world war one did that, similarly, the wahhabi infrastructure
    represented by naseef, wanted to propagate their influence, (the details were dredged up in that free republic long link, from almost a decade ago.

    narciso (732bc0)

  228. Aaand, Stacy’s mom has got it going on.

    So, now that we have that settled…

    Steve57 (747e61)

  229. I guess she’s like harvey’s invisible six foot rabbit,

    narciso (732bc0)

  230. Hillary Clinton’;s e-mail adddress was known to fewer people than she claims. Hillary Clinton claimed her e-mail address was displayed to anyone with whom she exchanged e-mails. But in fact only the letter “H” appeared, with no e-mail address.

    Some of her closest aides were aware she had a private e-mail address, but were not aware that she had her own ISP and server.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  231. After Snubbing Obama, China Gives Putin Red Carpet Treatment, Warns Against Protectionism At G-20; Nancy Finds A Cute Top To Wear At Steve’s Party

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  232. With the electronics, programming, ECUs, etc., involved, changeover to the modern engines are a nightmare, Steve.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/4/2016 @ 8:22 am

    With nearly 40 years into the business Herr Oberst, my perspective is it isn’t that hard. Most of the stuff is kitted up and ready to install. Any reasonably smart, patient car guy/gal can sort it pretty easily. For all the rest, well, I call myself Hotrodelectric on car sites for a reason.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  233. Platte River Networks in Colorado, along with the other technology firms associated with the email account, was told by the Trey committee on March 4, 2015, two days after the New York Times revealed he existence of the personal e-mail account, to retain “all relevant documents” related to its inquiry.

    Yet the archive was deleted later. Of course the question would be, does the word ‘documents’ cover that, since it is computer files and not a “document”, and also does it apply, since the computer files deleted with the help of Bleachbit are not about her e-mail account but the contents of the email account itself. Anyway, somebody didn;t want to get caught not having deleted something earlier.

    Also, I don’t think the New York Times says speificaally that they Trey committee knew about Platte River Networks at that time.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  234. @235. Clean your glasses. Listen to her tone. Then take out the trash to shut her up.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  235. Sidney Blkumenthal sent Hillary Clinton at least 179 memoes, most of whih she forwarded to Jake Sullivan after disguisng therir provenance and asked him to forward and get back responses.

    Of thise 179 emails Sideny Blmenthal sent 24 were later marked classified, meaning in some cases that he had accesd to classified information or information of the type to be classified.

    In one case it seems ike he partially plagiarised something written by the NSA, I read somewhere, earlier.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  236. Americans do not want to be governed. They wish to be entertained.

    It is a Dallas vs. Maude election.

    So ask yourself which you’d prefer: Hagman haggling as Tilton, Principal and Gray jiggle into your living room across a 40 inch HDTV screen or a high-def, pantsuited Bea Arthur, reminding you of your first wife from 1975, wagging her finger in your face, nagging you to take out the trash in the middle of the 4th quarter of Monday Night Football?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  237. i want to be governed

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  238. it’s a holiday effing weekend for christ’s sake

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  239. seriously can we talk about that game last night.

    narciso (732bc0)

  240. @248– posted with the politely and passive flare of a Canadian.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  241. yeah well says you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  242. 174. Considering what you believe it’s hard to be embarrassed in contrast.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/04/afd-party-election-merkels-home-state/

    Remember #nevertrump hoping someone will notice you can write at a tenth grade level of comprehension, Merkel has a PhD. in Physics.

    You are growing senile faster than you are apprehending squat.

    DNF (ffe548)

  243. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vVV8hRTxgE&index=1&list=PLA40407C12E5E35A7

    How to Succeed with Brunettes 1967 US Navy Training Film

    I

    No, really. They made a training film.

    I suspected that the Navy had an aircraft classification system to aid in maintenance. But I get hammered if I dare to suggest that an FM-2 Wildcat is different from an F4F-4 Wildcat to make things easier on the maintainers.

    Yet, the Navy finds time to make training films about succeeding with Mary Tyler Moore.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  244. Does anyone here defend — as wise, appropriate, and best-calculated to defeat the scourge of Hillary — the fact that Hillary and her super-PACs are outraising and outspending Trump and his by more than two-to-one? She and hers have been able to raise & spend $349.6M, with $84.4M cash still on hand, compared to Trump’s and his super-PACs’ $96.7M spent and $42.1 cash on hand.

    Clown car campaign.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  245. It ticks me off because I swear to God I eliminated the artifacts before stabbing the “submit” button.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  246. what’s the practical difference between the two,

    narciso (732bc0)

  247. Ack. I apologize for my math error (#255). It’s over three-to-one, not two-to-one.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  248. 176. One wonders how Mr. M. comes by any self-esteem at all. Then again there is Lena Dunham.

    DNF (ffe548)

  249. 255. Oh, and what of Jeb! who blew $200 Million on dribble cups.

    Back in the car, Bozo.

    DNF (ffe548)

  250. well merkel is an ostie, and apparently her dissident credential were luke warm, the social union, in josef strauss’s image, was always more hardline,

    narciso (732bc0)

  251. the elasticity of that expenditure is doubtful,

    narciso (732bc0)

  252. @ DNF: Trump would be the first to point out to you that Jeb lost. Yes, he wasted an astonishing amount of money doing it, and it’s good reason to question his judgment.

    But how does that defend what Trump’s doing now?

    If you want to answer my question, do so. If you just want to dodge it and spew, that speaks for itself too.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  253. Beldar, if your question is do I have a problem, among my other problems with Trump, with the fact he’s half @$$ing it, the answer is yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=NoABuJ36Zjg

    Really, there is no need for a get out the vote? Yes, there’s a need.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  254. Oh, I forgot to respond to the insult part. We’re doing personal insults again this week? Okay, well, Bozo says your mother wears army boots, DNF. Nanny nanny boo boo.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  255. Mr. Beldar did you ever really care about Nancy?

    I mean really?

    Cause you never even asked her if she was ok after Barb disappeared.

    It just makes me wonder.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  256. 263. You miss the point Captain Obvious, HRC is wasting half a billion now hoping another in purchased votes will turn the tide.

    As I said, backseat.

    DNF (755a85)

  257. the avenger was the expanded of the wildcat?

    no need for invective, here,

    narciso (732bc0)

  258. Sorry, Beldar, but when Rick Perry starts shakin’ his moneymaker on DWTS, it will all be over for the Cruzer.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  259. he gonna shake it so good

    sicky sacky gonna say oh my lord change the channel let’s pray

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  260. “Any reasonably smart, patient car guy/gal can sort it pretty easily…”

    Well there you go, Bill H, what about the rest of us?!?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  261. How many #nevertrump fit in a gaily painted VW Beetle?

    17, two in front, two in the rear and a baker’s dozen in the ash tray.

    DNF (755a85)

  262. @ Steve57: I think there’s a pretty sharp limit to what paid advertising could do to improve Trump’s negatives. But I think there’s a lot to be done in terms of motivating anti-Hillary turn-out, and the Trump campaign isn’t even making a serious attempt to even match Hillary’s paid media advantage. There is, of course, nothing he or anyone could do to offset her unpaid-media advantages, which makes it all the more critical that he have been on the air in selected states full time since the GOP convention.

    So what’s the Trumpkin excuse for this? Why is their big-shot candidate who knows everyone, who knows how to work the system, who could supposedly write a check to make up this differential (if he really is worth $10B+), neither writing that check nor raising funds through other means? Why is Trump’s campaign failing to do what even the most inept and stumbling past GOP campaigns have recognized to be essential?

    He’s got 11 million Twitter followers. Is that still the plan for winning the general election?

    Beldar (fa637a)

  263. “They think they seen the N_______ Rock, they ain’t seen THIS N_______ Rock!”

    — Rick Perry

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  264. Col. H: I take it that you aren’t willing to make the wager. I’m not joking, I’d be happy to take your money.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  265. I denounce myself… racisss!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  266. Sure I’ll take that bet, Beldar. But we don’t need anyone holding the money or an escrow account. I’ll trust you to pay up when the time comes, counselor.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  267. 273. “the Trump campaign isn’t even making a serious attempt to even match Hillary’s paid media advantage.”

    Everyone please advise the ancient relic that no one watches the boob tube, reads papers or subscribes to magazines in this modern age.

    DNF (ffe548)

  268. Re brunettes, you usually had to look like Phil Simms or Thor the comic book version to get anywhere. Those chicks worship the punnett square. I wonder if they are less of a prize than their blond sisters in the alleys of invaded Europe. Burn that tape before Syed Syrian tires of blondes.

    urbanleftbehind (419038)

  269. The pantsuit prostitute better have someone yell TIMBER the next time she falls.

    mg (31009b)

  270. here you go, ever since she left the doha hatchery, she’s been kind of scarce,

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/he-said-she-said.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  271. Well there you go, Bill H, what about the rest of us?!?!?!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/4/2016 @ 12:54 pm

    I can get you through it, my man. Pick a spot- any spot- on your modification and we’ll simply go from there.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  272. You drive a bronco don’t you Mr. H

    that’s not a question

    we found some bronco tracks out by the old quarry

    don’t be booking any outta town trips

    we might have some questions for you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  273. well last time, mittens advertised on fox and the golf channel, whereas zaphod spent everywhere, including animal planet. I think.

    narciso (732bc0)

  274. 282. And HRC was the original birther in the 2008 campaign.

    Franklin Marshall Davis’ bastard son is guarded by a legion.

    DNF (ffe548)

  275. there are 57 flavors of squirrel, they use to avoid the subject at hand,

    narciso (732bc0)

  276. my link at 10:53, shows how brazen their strategy is, hoover didn’t show up at appalachin did he,
    even though he frequented lajolla’s race track if memory serves,

    narciso (732bc0)

  277. “http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/04/cafepress-anti-hillary-merchandise-outselling-anti-trump-gear-by-over-814-percent/”

    – DNF

    Hahahahaha… because Trumpkins are so dumb they need a t-shirt slogan (written by someone else for the purpose of bilking morons) in order to express themselves. Maybe they can take the t-shirt designer into the booth with them to read them the options on the ballot.

    Try again, water-carrier.

    Leviticus (611108)

  278. good gravy, are you naturally this dense, this was a leading indicator four years ago.

    narciso (732bc0)

  279. 57 is how many tons of salt we need

    Mr. narciso go with Steve

    take the bronco

    meet us back at the gym

    I can feel it in my heart Barb’s still with us

    just go

    GO!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  280. jesus christ anyone got any schnapps

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  281. The FBI’s disclaimer on its “Vault” page:

    https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

    The FBI’s FOIA Library contains many files of public interest and historical value. In compliance with the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements, some of these records are no longer in the physical possession of the FBI, eliminating the FBI’s capability to re-review and/or re-process this material. Please note, that the information found in these files may no longer reflect the current beliefs, positions, opinions, or policies currently held by the FBI.

    The image quality contained within this site is subject to the condition of the original documents and original scanning efforts. These older files may contain processing procedures that are not compliant with current FOIA processing standards. All recently scanned images posted to the FOIA Library adhere to the NARA 300 DPI standard. Therefore, we have provided the best representation of the files contained within the FOIA Library for your viewing purposes.

    Some material contained in this site may contain actions, words, or images of a graphic nature that may be offensive and/or emotionally disturbing. This material may not be suitable for all ages. Please view it with discretion

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  282. btw if you’re referring to pelosi, I dubbed her norma desmond, sans quotes, because she looks like gloria swanson in sunset boulevard. or katherine helmond in brazil

    narciso (732bc0)

  283. oh no not pelosi

    if you don’t answer Mr. Modine it’s gonna be way more than a pelosi problem

    it’s gonna be more sons

    more daughters

    is that what you want?

    gth

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  284. no really gth

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  285. Lena D. interviewing Amy Shumer:

    LD: You and I were literally sitting across from each other at the Met Ball, and it was so surreal to get to do that.

    I was sitting next to Odell Beckham Jr., and it was so amazing because it was like he looked at me and he determined I was not the shape of a woman by his standards. He was like, “That’s a marshmallow. That’s a child. That’s a dog.” It wasn’t mean — he just seemed confused.

    The vibe was very much like, “Do I want to fuck it? Is it wearing a … yep, it’s wearing a tuxedo. I’m going to go back to my cell phone.” It was like we were forced to be together, and he literally was scrolling Instagram rather than have to look at a woman in a bow tie. I was like, “This should be called the Metropolitan Museum of Getting Rejected by Athletes.”

    AS: You were dressed like a boy, and you looked sexy, and I really appreciated you showing me your tits several times.

    LD: I loved this year when you were like, “I’m not fat, and I’m not skinny, and why do I have to be in this plus-size category?” after a magazine called you plus size on their cover. I know it ended up being a fucking pain in the ass for you, but what I was so glad about was that you were just being like, “Why, when you see a woman and she has 18,000 contributions to the world, would your desire be to place her in a random category you came up with?”

    Why do fat chicks lie to each other and demand we pay them heed? I talk to fat chicks a third my age all the time. Tatted sows more than half my age not so much.

    My expectation is they have nothing to offer. They are invisible.

    DNF (755a85)

  286. The updates on this post are revealing.

    I’d hate to be an innocent person brought before DDA Frey…

    LBascom (09d352)

  287. 291. It just hopes something it flings against the wall will stick.

    In a few months he’ll scrape the stickings off the wall and warm himself and his chai in the NM winter.

    DNF (755a85)

  288. I know he’s confused by small shiny objects, I only took one semester of con law, but I think I have the rudiments,

    narciso (732bc0)

  289. you think the updates are bad

    what happens when you mash up teen wolf, hemlock grove, and buffy seasons 3-4 (with riley finn)?

    it’s not something you want Barb to see I tell you that

    go inside

    hug your children

    eat some totino’s pizza rolls

    me and winona

    we got this

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  290. Hillary Clinton ordered a change in her e-mail retention policy on December, 2014, so that e-mail would be retained only for 60 days and all older mail erased?) and a person at Platte River Networks in Colorado said he had a conference call with President Clinton’s staff on March 25, 2015.

    The person at Platte River Networks in Colorado claims he realized he hadn’t done it sometime between March 25 and March 31, 2015. At first, on Feb 18, 2016 he told the FBI that he did not recall conducting deletions based on this realization, but on May 3, 2016 he said he had.

    There was a conference call between him, Cheryl Mills, David Kendall (The Clintons’ main lawyer) on March 31, 2015, but he was advised by the Platte River Networks lawyer (during his FBI interview?) not any conversation with Kendall on the grounds that it was protected by attorney-client privilege.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  291. Platte River’s in Nebrasky not Colorado

    can i see some id?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  292. If you liked Acting CEO Jarrett you’ll like her successor Huma:

    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/09/04/nancy-pelosi-speaker-again-gop-warns-voters/

    DNF (755a85)

  293. one is a funny look at a fatwa, on showtime, whereas hbo, offers us this, abomination of desolation,

    http://buzztales.com/scripts/300_600_ad_desktop.htm?id=442487959

    he was relatively decent in the last paul feig vehicle

    narciso (732bc0)

  294. She’s old mafia princess corrupt, not the Alinsky kind, had the balls to do the sign of the cross in front of old man Assad.

    urbanleftbehind (419038)

  295. i need you to wake up now i need you to breathe

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  296. at the time, the optometrist was funneling the same slithy toves, that have tried to destroy his country, against coalition forces, forgetting the parable of the frog and scorpion,

    so seriously another attack on trump, that’s as edgy as a protractor, one could go the daily news angle, that he rented out floors to the saudi mission, instead of by comparison, hiring a detailee for aq’s chief fundraiser,

    narciso (732bc0)

  297. @163 DNF

    #nevertrump just wants to rein in his tirade.

    Pinandpuller (c83609)

  298. i want my 8 hours back

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  299. I guess at the time of #macho grande, I wondered really how original was that, whereas the bearded marxist didn’t get his nearly his due,

    narciso (732bc0)

  300. Bookmark this page, Col. H. 😀

    Beldar (fa637a)

  301. Still waiting, though, for any Trump shills, Trump fans, or even reluctant Trump voters to explain how it’s magically better to be outspent 3-to-1 by your opponents.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  302. it was an attempted fox butterfield move,

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211?cid=bitly

    well they have reelected jerry’ the frog’ nadler, how many times,

    narciso (732bc0)

  303. 304. happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/4/2016 @ 2:07 pm

    Platte River’s in Nebrasky not Colorado

    can i see some id?

    It originates in Colorado, especially the South Platte River:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Platterivermap.png

    The company is located in Denver:

    http://platteriver.com/contact/inquiries/

    Visit us: 5700 Washington Street
    Denver, CO 80216

    This was the company the Clintons used to host their server after she left office:

    http://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/03/fbi-report-platte-river-network-employee-bleachbit-delete-clinton-e-mails/

    FBI report: Platte River Network employee used BleachBit to delete old Clinton e-mails

    Staffer deleted archived e-mails 3 months after being told to change retention policies

    Committee letter to Platte River Networks dated August 22 2016:
    http://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/08_22_2016-homeland-security-cmte-sst-treve-suazo.pdf

    They wouldn’t co-operate with the House Science and Homeland Security committees. Phone calls, voicemails and emails didn’t work and finally their attorney sent an e-mail demanding that the committee communication in writing, which the committee letter said, apparently does not include e-mail.

    Platte River finally said it refused to accept electronic service.

    They’ve been subpoeaned now. The documents are due by September 9.

    http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/23/platte-river-subpoenaed-clinton-e-mail-saga/

    Platte, which in 2013 won the bid to host the Clinton family’s e-mail, began working with the new client that June. The company took the physical server, which had been at Clinton’s home, and moved it to a data center in New Jersey.

    But as past e-mail security breaches revealed that Clinton may have used her home server for classified business, the FBI picked up the server from Platte on Aug. 12, 2015, to see whether it had been hacked or whether there was intentional or gross neglect.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  304. Platte River’s in Nebrasky not Colorado

    can i see some id?

    It originates in Colorado, especially the South Platte River:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Platterivermap.png

    The company is located in Denver:

    http://platteriver.com/contact/inquiries/

    Visit us: 5700 Washington Street
    Denver, CO 80216

    This was the company the Clintons used to host their server after she left office

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  305. They’ve been subpoeaned now. The documents are due by September 9.

    They have co-operated but on;y with the FBI.

    Committee letter to Platte River Networks dated August 22 2016:

    http://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/08_22_2016-homeland-security-cmte-sst-treve-suazo.pdf

    Phone calls, voicemails and emails didn’t work and finally their attorney sent an e-mail demanding that the committee communication in writing, which the committee letter said, apparently does not include e-mail. Platte Rover’s lawyer sent an e-mail saying Platte River refused to accept electronic service.

    Some background ( and I don’t fully get the picture)

    http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/23/platte-river-subpoenaed-clinton-e-mail-saga/ Platte, which in 2013 won the bid to host the Clinton family’s e-mail, began working with the new client that June. The company took the physical server, which had been at Clinton’s home, and moved it to a data center in New Jersey.

    But as past e-mail security breaches revealed that Clinton may have used her home server for classified business, the FBI picked up the server from Platte on Aug. 12, 2015, to see whether it had been hacked or whether there was intentional or gross neglect. It’s not clear to me why the Clintons contracted it out in 2013.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  306. narciso,

    You nailed it with the Nancy Pelosi/Norma Desmond comparison.
    The plastic surgery gives San Fran Nan the “Norma Desmond eternally-shocked” facial expression.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  307. You ever make it out of NYC, much, Sammy?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  308. so in the context of exekiel, isiah, jeremiah, the rapture is the ‘day of the lord’ doesn’t come before,

    narciso (732bc0)

  309. fidel o flake, is just full of category error, how far back you say,

    “After a visit to the country with exposure to the amount of private enterprise and limited government interference in the economy, as well as recognizing the viable existence of a second party, one would clearly see that Zimbabwe is more on the side of the West,” Flake wrote.

    narciso (732bc0)

  310. Beldar,

    Clinton’s money advantage ain’t buying any love. The very high name recognition of both candidates coupled with their extraordinarily high unfavorable ratings lowers the utility of pointing out the various warts, lesions and chancres afflicting both of them via advertising.

    Clinton’s advertising may well cut into her turnout. Seeing and hearing her appears to elicit more nausea than support.

    Rick Ballard (3ff5f2)

  311. 315. Back in 2001, Donald Trump sold the 45th floor of the Trump Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi arabia. It later became part of the Saudi mission to the United Nations in 2008. A broker sued Donald Trump for a broker’s fee, but she didn’t get it, and abandoned the lawsuit.

    And back in 1985, Osama bin Laden’s half brother, Shafiq, often described the article said, as the Westernized opposite of Osama, paid a security deposit of $8,500 for an apartment, and lived there for four months in 1986.

    That’s supposed to be the same thing as the Clinton Foundation taking $25 million and more from the Saudis.

    It’s clear what the Saudis got for the money they paid Trump. But what did they get for what they gave Clinton?

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  312. “Still waiting, though, for any Trump shills, Trump fans, or even reluctant Trump voters to explain how it’s magically better to be outspent 3-to-1 by your opponents.”

    What if your opponents’ natural consituency is the type that finds that spending unseemly?

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  313. and prince talal bought his yacht and the park plaza, just like he bought the olayan block in citigroup, newscorp and aol.

    narciso (732bc0)

  314. Yeah, “unseemly.” Words Trumpkins know.

    “Your opponent’s natural constituency” is the type that finds spending on welfare absolutely essential, except when it goes to black or brown people.

    Spare me the slightest hint of an argument of principle.

    Leviticus (611108)

  315. Leviticus, I used to, I don’t know if you’ve heard, work a job where where we took information security seriously. Yeah, I would have shot any of my subordinates for Hillary! email practices.

    And on the other had we have Trump.

    And on the third hand, why did I bother to graduate high school? Why did I give up sniffing glue?

    Now the secret can be told. I never gave it up. I never started. But, now, boy, don’t I wish I had.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  316. I’m still trying to figure out Leviticus’s point, but meanwhile FUCKIN’ A, OVER!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/772574369633763329

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  317. I think one would translate it as ardilla! trump has many foibles, but I don’t think information security is one, but seeing how mittens was depicted a sanguinary tax evading death eater, well they may have to get a little creative,

    in the hack novelist, turned pundit category,

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-2016-214207

    he thinks wayne barrett had a point, I dissent,

    narciso (732bc0)

  318. I’m still trying to figure out if prostituting myself to the highest bidder makes me less of a prostitute.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  319. Max, Leviticus is making the same points as a monkey flinging poo. Only with less finesse and class. Maybe more like Hillary flinging ashtrays.

    Anyway, the point is only self absorbed rage, nothing more.

    LBascom (09d352)

  320. The date will sadly slip by me. So at least I’ll get the month right.

    http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Battle_of_Saragarhi

    Saragarhi is the incredible story of 21 men of the 36th Sikh Regiment (currently the 4th Sikh Regiment) who gave up their lives in devotion to their duty. This battle, like many others fought by the Sikhs, highlights the heroic action by a small detachment of Sikh soldiers against heavy odds. This encounter took place on 12 September 1897 in the Tirah region of North-West Frontier Province (now in Pakistan, which then formed part of British India). In keeping with the tradition of the Sikh Army, they fought to the death rather than surrender.

    Basically, if you don’t know Sarigarhi, you don’t know fighting men. 21 men against thousands. And the few Sikhs said, “Ill take those odds.” God. Damn.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  321. Next month, the commemoration of Leyte.

    I hope everyone has trimmed their tree.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  322. sounds like the battle of the black sea, mogadishu, one of the many storied engagements in the century of british presence in the northwest frontier,y

    narciso (732bc0)

  323. “I can get you through it, my man. Pick a spot- any spot- on your modification and we’ll simply go from there.”

    Bill H

    I had this guy in mind, Bill. What a saga…

    http://xwebforums.org/showthread.php?t=30114

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  324. yes, that was a remarkable feat,

    http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/06/battle-saragarhi/

    eid al adha, fall around that date this year,

    narciso (732bc0)

  325. http://www.business-standard.com/article/specials/the-21-sikhs-of-saragarhi-114091101117_1.html

    The 21 Sikhs of Saragarhi

    A small body of Sikhs defended a vital North-West Frontier post against 10,000 Afridi and Orakzai attackers. Yesterday was the 117th anniversary of their heroic effort

    God. Damn.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  326. @315. Flag on the play. let’s go to the ref…

    “Illegal use of comparing private sector businessman to public office holder. 15 yards. Loss of a down. Restart the clock to 66 days.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  327. “Remarkable feat” is the understatement of the year, narciso.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  328. how did they physically do it, enfields against jezails, I’m surprised I never heard of this engagement,

    narciso (732bc0)

  329. I don’t believe any of the Sikhs survived, narciso to explain.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  330. Best as I can understand it, they just didn’t give up.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  331. so how could they tell the tale, was there even one dr. brydon, like after the siege of kabul,

    narciso (732bc0)

  332. I’m surprised you haven’t heard of this. It ranks with Thermopylae. And, as I will be expounding, Leyte.

    No one person can be expected to know all things.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  333. so how could they tell the tale, was there even one dr. brydon, like after the siege of kabul,

    narciso (732bc0) — 9/4/2016 @ 5:26 pm

    They were in communication with other British outposts.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  334. Signal mirror, I believe.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  335. #323 Sammy,

    Come on, Sammy, we don’t yet know what influences the Saudis received from their zillions of dollars contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
    But the Saudis wouldn’t be flinging all that money around unless they believed it was in their interest, agree?

    Also, maybe their payback will come when she’s President.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  336. It is September. Dove Season. We are, again, hearing the happy sound of shotguns.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  337. I had this guy in mind, Bill. What a saga…

    http://xwebforums.org/showthread.php?t=30114

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/4/2016 @ 5:02 pm

    Much respect to that man for the work he did. I did something similar: a second gen Northstar front driver into a ’59 Chevy Suburban. I got stupendously lucky and was able to get GM to program not just one, but two ECUs simply by asking. And that doesn’t take into account the rest of the electrical system on that monster.

    I absolutely approve of what the guy was able to do with an X1-9. Not an easy car to mod, and not much available for it. **golf clap**

    Bill H (971e5f)

  338. I had never heard of that either Steve57, narciso and I like you guys read a lot of history. I’m embarrassed I missed this.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  339. don’t be that guy,’ jeremy piven says to jon favreau, in pcu,

    https://twitter.com/Peter_Wehner/status/772588818063122432

    narciso (732bc0)

  340. mark ames was taibbi’s partner at the exile, volodya didn’t waste a bullet on them,

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/02/washington-post-contributor-falsely-accu

    but they’ve been such jackalopes lately, they deserve the hit,

    narciso (732bc0)

  341. narciso (732bc0) — 9/4/2016 @ 3:23 pm

    well they have re-elected jerry’ the frog’ nadler, how many times,

    he’s on his way to being elected for 13th term, so that means he’s heading to being re-elected a dozen times. There was a primary, but his opponent, besides not getting too much attention, was actually not very articulate, or maybe there wasn’t much knowledge of public affairs in his brain in the first place – the debate on WNYC AM 820, which dutifully did it, which I actually listened to most of it later on the Internet, after finding it, was almost a farce. He really was ignorant – I mean clearly not up to the job, although in any case most people would not be. He even didn’t want to say he was running because of the Iran deal. Why not!??

    Of course, he was from Manhattan. A homosexual graduate of Yeshiva University (some years ago) believe it or not. He talked like that, too. Maybe under 30 years old. Involved in some technology business. There was virtually no news coverage of the election results. I still don’t know the percentage. You’d have to do diligent, graduate level research to find that out. I mean you’d have to think hard about finding a source. I’m sure it’s on some website. It’ll surely be published next year in the Almanac of American Politics, which, new, is very expensive. The New York Times didn’t publish it, I think.

    Someone told me something almost like it not being worth voting, I don’t remember exactly what she said – but she’d expected a closer race – some attention. Ypu don’t even find out out what teh results are. You have to ask a friend or neighbor.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  342. of course, they would underplay the major point,

    http://www.nypress.com/local-news/20160526/nadler-foe8217s-murky-party-roots/1

    narciso (732bc0)

  343. Rick Ballard (3ff5f2) — 9/4/2016 @ 3:54 pm

    Clinton’s money advantage ain’t buying any love.

    There was one poll result the other day in which Trump did better than Clinton.

    68% thought he would do anything to be president. But 74% thought was true of Clinton.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  344. DCSCA

    After the last few days I could see Trump adopting two streetwise black kids who’ve nothing but their jeans.

    Pinandpuller (c83609)

  345. The rationale behind the secret Donald – Bill meeting?

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/04/ben-carson-bill-clintons-position-on-illegal-immigration-is-the-same-as-trumps-video/

    The bad thing is that he might have also agreed to not stand in the way of Ocare becoming Hillarycare.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  346. There’s a serious Conrad Bain fan club here.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  347. I don’t think so, it’s just a sign far ‘out where the buses don’t run’ the democrats have gone in 20 years,

    narciso (732bc0)

  348. 357- That’s pretty funny as the nevertrumpers favorite line is Trump is only running to get Hillary elected. Cuz he really doesn’t want to win. And also he’s a narcissist with a huge ego. Who’s trying not to win so Hillary will win.

    Camelot is a silly place.

    LBascom (09d352)

  349. 357/ Oh, yes that’s true. Nadler accused Oliver Rosenberg of being a Republican. But I don’t knew enough about politics to have been much of a Republican.

    You notice the article is from before the primary. After the primary: dead silence everywhere.

    It looks like he registered in New York in January 2008 (as a new voter he could pick a party) and voted in the Republican primary for president on February 5, 2008. He switched parties in August 2012, but apparently was in Los Angeles in November 2012, and voted there for president. He may have moved back to Los Angeles, in fact most probably did, and to a different address than here he lived before 2008.

    In 2014 he used an affidavit ballot in November.

    his registration here became inactive after he had submitted an address change noting a Los Angeles post office box

    That’s a pretty small apartment. I don’t understand this. You can register in Los Angeles giving a Post Office Box as your address? Or was that on his re-registration in New York, except that he gave a Post Office Box in Los Angeles as his old address?? Or was this the address change that he gave to the Post Office when he moved, which got told to the Board of Elections when they sent him some mail, and it was Post Office Box because he didn’t know where he was going to live in Los angeles so he was having mail sent there? Do the people who wrote this article eevn know what they are talking about?

    Apparently when he moved back to Los Angeles he registered as a Republican. The real reason for his switch was probably in order not to disenfranchise himself from voting in primaries in New York.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  350. narciso (732bc0) — 9/4/2016 @ 2:47 pm

    at the time, the optometrist was funneling the same slithy toves, that have tried to destroy his country, against coalition forces, forgetting the parable of the frog and scorpion,

    At the tiem, Bashar Assad (an opthamlologist, I think) did not expect to run into any trouble, but when the trouble stated, he was glad to have them as enemies, nand was careful not to attempt to destroy them. He is betting nobody will ever allow them to win. He needs them.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  351. @351, Now you know. There’s no reason to be embarrassed.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  352. these were the same people his father had crushed at hama, a quarter century before,

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/3792/dems-tap-radical-islamists-for-cashth

    narciso (732bc0)

  353. Except if you can’t make pruno, and sneak it by the guards.

    Then there’s a reason.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  354. venting it through the shampoo is always a nice touch, I find.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  355. ok, what’s the prison wine about?

    narciso (732bc0)

  356. 337. Another, tho not nearly as valiant, good first try:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/irans-houthi-rebel-allies-yemen-fire-scud-missiles-mecca/

    Only 50 miles to the SE. Hope they get the range.

    DNF (755a85)

  357. I was just sharing information.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  358. 353. Read today on the Merkel beatdown that Hollande is unlikely to get his party’s Ok to run for re-election.

    Unexpectedly!

    DNF (755a85)

  359. 372)if one remembers the battle of algiers, you see the challenge that they face, and that was just one metropole, not a dozen.

    narciso (732bc0)

  360. 374

    Hillary didn’t understand how the classification system worked, so how could we hold her responsible for releasing classified material?

    She also does not know how the subpoena system works, so how can we fault her for destroying evidence under subpoena?

    The REAL question is what is Donald Trump hiding in his tax return?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  361. 370
    Details matter. Taif is 40 miles east of Mecca. Learn to read a map.

    A large amount of pilgrimage traffic enters Arabia via Jeddah, the port city to the west of Mecca. If you wany to emarras the Saudis and cause economic pain, targeting Jeddah and Riyadh would actually be better suited than Mecca.

    kishnevi (80558c)

  362. Mr. Ballard (#322): I don’t expect the full extent of Hillary outspending Trump to show up until Election Day. It’s not just advertising; it’s also GOTV and ground organizing. As whether Hillary’s advertising will actually hurt her, I respectfully submit that you’re engaging in wishful thinking. Her advertising is mostly anti-Trump. Both campaigns have fertile ground to till in depressing the other side’s turn-out, but only Hillary is even playing the game.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  363. well it’s from almanar, (hezbollah tv) where was it launched from, somewhere south of najran

    narciso (732bc0)

  364. Scuse me if already noted: Angela Corey did not make run off election.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/08/prosecutor-of-george-zimmerman-loses-bid-for-re-election/

    DNF (755a85)

  365. 370. The story has it at 50 miles and definitely SE by the map, azzwipe.

    DNF (755a85)

  366. Yeah, HRC is sharp as a tack and all that money is not going in the sh!tter. Surber:

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-party-of-big-tent.html

    DNF (755a85)

  367. Mrs. Ed will quit before the glue factory calls.

    mg (31009b)

  368. Y’all and your politics. It never ends!

    Hook ’em!

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  369. How many #nevertrump fit in a gaily painted VW Beetle?

    17, two in front, two in the rear and a baker’s dozen in the ash tray.
    DNF (755a85) — 9/4/2016 @ 12:54 pm

    Nice little Jew Joke you got there.

    John Hitchcock (5a582a)

  370. @360 urbanleftbehind

    Wow, Conrad Bain was in Maude as well.

    Pinandpuller (d5621a)

  371. @362 LBascom

    If he’s supposedly laying down to let her win then why is she spending so damn much money?

    Pinandpuller (d5621a)

  372. @382 DNF

    I wonder if muslims have any jokes along the lines of, “How do you get to The Grand Old Opry?”

    Pinandpuller (d5621a)

  373. This is our latest rocket. We call it “The Haj”. It’s our little joke.

    Pinandpuller (d5621a)

  374. No trumpets riding high on their morals and standards were never serious republicans, they allowed obamacare to take off, they allowed the clinton’s to do as they please with not one person standing up and fighting this commie red action. This will be the last chance for republicans to win the white house. Sit on your hypocritical morals you over educated peons.

    mg (31009b)

  375. @6:15

    “…Unlike our president.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SCUy_3bdXo

    Steve57 (747e61)

  376. Point of order:

    Hillary Clinton served on Senate Committee on Armed Services (2003-2009). Wouldn’t she have been exposed to classified information as a member of the Committee and would have been required to have taken training in regard to the handling of such during her Senate orientation?

    Hillary was stupid to think that playing stupid would work.

    Neo (d1c681)

  377. @393, this crazed son of beeeotch has been making the same point of order since, I think, 2013.

    And, no. No. Playing stupid wil work. It’s worked so far.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  378. The junior senator from New York has been briefed. I can Establish that.

    And, Comey is a prostitute.

    It’s. Nucking. Futs.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  379. Well, there were a s**tload of cracks for Hitlery to slip by. weren’t there?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  380. First they came for Dr. Drew.

    mg (31009b)

  381. With dick cheney, his very breath was a killing word, as various manques from Alan dale to miguel fetter suggest, but red queen was just careless.

    narciso (732bc0)

  382. Neo (d1c681) — 9/5/2016 @ 5:26 am

    Hillary was stupid to think that playing stupid would work.

    No, it wasn’t stupid, just plodding and unimaginative. I mean, she should have said she thought (C) stood for copyright – that unlike most government data, it was copyrighted, and so shouldn’t be copied and sent any place outside the government.)

    Yes, to claim that she did not know what the classification marks were was preposterous, but to know that it was preposterous, you have to know more – you have to be pretty familiar with what she should know, or had shown evidence of knowing in the past.

    The reason she lied about that is that she had made a claim that she got no e-mail “marked” classified at her private e-mail. Now, actually had happened about two or three times at least, in connection with her schedule. She could have said she forgot about that, but she probably didn’t because she was well aware of that and had taken steps to see that she should not get such e-mail any more.

    The e-mails in question were something like her schedule for the day, which was routinely, otherwise, marked (C) for confidential – the lowest level of classification – and sent on the State Department classified system.

    But she was not on that system. So it had to be sent to her on the unclassified system. A few times the aide who prepared that slipped up out of habit. Or maybe it was that most of the time it was sent to Huma Abedin on the classified system, but sometimes it wound up getting sent to her private e-mail address even though it usually wasn’t, maybe because there was a proposed change in her schedule that they needed her approval for.

    Hillary Clinton probably instructed her people to, in such cases, not mark it classified – which she had a right to do, by the way – she could decide to classify that or not to classify that, and whether to classify this or not was certainly something within her discretion, but the practice had been to mark such things classified all the time. But the aide(s) sometimes slipped up, because she or he didn’t usually send e-mail directly to Hillary Clinton.

    And when it happened that she received something marked classified she probably took corrective action. Therefore maybe it didn’t occur to her to claim she forgot about these rare incidents.

    She knew. She had to know what the classification indicaors were. There’s even an email in which she tells her aide to strip the classification mark off something and send it to her, and she uses a State Department idiom for doing that. You mean she doesn’t know?

    But she wanted to back up her claim that she had NEVER received any e-mail marked classified

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  383. Neo (d1c681) — 9/5/2016 @ 5:26 am

    Hillary was stupid to think that playing stupid would work.

    It did work for the purposes of escaping or preventing prosecution for perjury, or the special federal law about lying to federal agents like the FBI, and it was something she had every reason to expect would work, and that’s why she did it.

    Prosecutors do not generally bring prosecution for perjury if they don’t have someone dead to rights, AND even then, only if it is a material fact that affected the outcome of some litigation or severely stalled an investigation for a significant length of time

    OR

    The real charges they would like to bring are much more serious, but the only one they can is perjury, maybe because of the statute of limitaitons, or a lack of adequate proof, or they let someone plead guilty to that alone as part of a plea bargain.

    If someone says they didn’t rememeber something or they never learned something or they forgot, or acts confused or mixed up, how you are going to prove that that’s a lie? Making a “guess” isn’t even a statement. It’s just acting.

    If someone is repeatedly lying they usually can pick out a lie that is really solid and contradicted by other things so they don’t even need to include anything like that. If there is aprosecution for perjury, prosecutors will pick out the most egregious examples.

    And I’ll show you here how reluctant they are to prosecute lying to the FBI or how many chances they give people, or at least did here. Bill Clinton maybe wouldn’t even have been impeached if he’d been willing to correct the record in 1998. It seems like prosecutors do this all the time.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  384. The Platte River Networks person lied to the FBI in claiming he did not delete anything after his March 25 conversation with Hillary’s aides/lawyers, but the FBI allowed him to correct the record. Probably not to the truth, but to something less inconsistent with known facts.

    He now says he did it, but he says they had nothing to do with it, and he never asked for any legal advice and so on like that, although, he’d already received the e-mail from Cheryl Mills not to delete anything more.

    Here’s a quote copied from the Washington Examiner website:

    …. In his first interview with the FBI, on Feb. 18, 2016, the unidentified staffer “indicated that he did not recall conducting deletions based upon this realization.” But then, in a follow-up interview on May 3, 2016, the staffer “indicated he believed he had an ‘oh (expletive deleted)’ moment and sometime between March 25-31, 2015 deleted the Clinton archive mailbox.” The staffer used the now-notorious BleachBit to do the work, and manually deleted a backup as well….The FBI found that on March 9, 2015, Mills sent the Platte River Networks staff, including the unidentified worker, an email, in the words of the FBI, “referencing the preservation request from the Committee on Benghazi.” In his first interview with the FBI, the staffer told agents that “he did not recall seeing the preservation request referenced in the March 9, 2015 e-mail.” But then, in the May 3 follow-up interview, the staffer “indicated that, at the time he made the deletions in March 2015, he was aware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clinton’s e-mail date [Sic. Probably should be “data” and not “date”] on the [Platte River Networks] server.” The staffer also told the FBI he did not consult any colleagues, company legal counsel or anyone else “regarding the meaning of the preservation request.”

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  385. #400 Sammy,

    Go tell that to Scooter Libby.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  386. Note that was regarding an authorized declassification of a document, the 2002 Iraq nie that mutineer Paul pillar had put together.

    narciso (732bc0)

  387. @161 — You don’t know how right you are.

    Hilbag’s wheelchair: http://bit.ly/2cBnziM

    bitter fruit (8367b1)

  388. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/4/2016 @ 3:36 pm

    You ever make it out of NYC, much, Sammy?

    No, and I know the headwaters of the Platte River – actually two rivers – are less wide than in Nebraska, where it is a pretty serious river, although I read a long time ago, they used to ford it already in Nebraska.

    I looked into it further, and I see the river runs right through the middle of Denver, Colorado, where Platte River Networks is located. So it is quite reasonable to name the company afer the river, esoecially if you’re trying to be vague about the services it offers, or who owns it.

    In fact, it is the river that Denver sits on. And probably why the city is located there.

    http://www.walkridecolorado.com/denver-metro-single-trails/south-platte-river-trail

    The South Platte River Trail travels right through the heart of the Metropolitan Denver area. The trail runs along side the South Platte River from Thornton in the north, through the Downtown Denver area, to Englewood in the south. This is a 17.8 mile trail along a greenbelt that runs through very urban areas. The trail is paved the entire way and has gentle grades of less than 1% for most of the way. It is great for a bike ride, as a running trail, a lunchtime get-away, or a way to access the attractions of Downtown Denver.

    I knew Denver was the “mile high city” I didn’t know there was a river running through it.

    Washington Street, which I think was not the first location of the company, may even be near the river.

    The next section of trail take you through the industrial areas north of Denver, but you are away from the streets and traffic. The trail travels to the southwest under York Street and Franklin Street, crosses the river with another bridge and runs along side Northside Park. Following a bend in the river, it heads more to the south to cross under Interstate 70 just east of the Washington Street interchange. Just south of here is another bridge where the trail crosses the river to reach Globeville Landing Park. The trail continues running along the east banks of the river, tucking under 31st Street, under the railroad tracks and under Fox Street. At Fox Street there is a foot bridge to cross to the west side of the South Platte River.

    The trail crosses the South Platte River “just east of the Washington Street interchange.”

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  389. Coming to InterStates and Highways of America, e.g., the DC Beltway:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/05/truckers-block-calais-demand-closure-migrant-camp/

    DNF (ffe548)

  390. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/5/2016 @ 7:02 am

    #400 Sammy,

    Go tell that to Scooter Libby.

    Scooter Libby never had his lawyer approach the prosecutor and say he wanted to correct the record, which is the way this is usually done. If a prosecutor allows someone to do so, they don’t prosecute. I think there may be an argument that it is the replacement testimony that counts. A person certainly can correct himself immediately, and probably on the same day without any trouble.

    There was another problem there, also. Disclosing the identity of CIA covert agent (which Valerie Plame was not anymore in any real sense) was a separate federal crime. And he went to considerable lengths to fabricate conversations with reporters. Of course, you are right also in that he was a target.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  391. Of course what the Platte River technician did was confess to destroying evidence that perhaps he personally was not culpable for (unless his intention was to obstruuct the investigation)

    His second version was almost certainly not the truth, and arrived at in consulation with the Platte River and/or Clinton’s lawyers, but if his second version of the facts was to be believed, it was not something that he could be prosecuted for.

    This FBI report took the tack of believing the final version of whatever anybody said.

    There’s more patent lying to be detected among the other materials not released (mainly the 302s of the other people interviewed besides Hillary Clinton) according to what I understand Senator Grassley and Congressman Trey Gowdy to be hinting at.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  392. They lost the notes of the FBI interviewer, eichride, this is how much of a sham that trial was, only surpassed by the Stevens trial, where the FBI handler had a thing for their chief prosecution witness, William Allen. They fired the whistlebliwer who pointed that out.

    narciso (732bc0)

  393. As long as “No, I don’t make it out of New York” and “I know the head waters of the Platte river” can work for you, I can’t help.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  394. Y’all and your politics. It never ends!

    Hook ’em!

    Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/4/2016 @ 10:42 pm
    ===================================================

    Like a mackerel by moonlight, he shines and stinks.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  395. You know they haven’t done nearly enough housecleaning at the torygraph.

    narciso (732bc0)

  396. Got my library mostly back together and my aquarium set up for freshwater this time.

    #nevertrump not gonna ruin my day.

    DNF (755a85)

  397. Beldar,

    I don’t suffer from wishful thinking. I believe the election results will comport very closely with the current RCP ‘no toss up’ map. There is a reasonable chance Rubio and Burr may drive turnout enough to flip FL and NC but Toomey, although he may win with crossover, will not drive turnout enough to flip PA.

    Negative advertising has a very marginal effect when both the target and the alternative suffer from a surfeit of warts, lesions and chancres. The obvious choice of ‘neither’ militates towards an end result of depressing turnout rather than increased support for an unpalatable alternative.

    Rick Ballard (3ff5f2)

  398. It is possible that the staffer was trying to conceal from anyone, including his bosses, that he hadn’t deleted the Clinton e-mails earlier, back in December. (But the thing was, later the FBI found evidence of the timing)

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  399. I would hate to put words in sammeh’s mouth.

    He never actually said he had personal knowledge of the Platte.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  400. 418. Gotta admit Sammy has moments where he adds value, and singularly.

    DNF (755a85)

  401. Jiggery pokery.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  402. narciso (732bc0) — 9/5/2016 @ 8:00 am

    They lost the notes of the FBI interviewer, eichride, this is how much of a sham that trial was,

    I see in the Murray Waas book about the Scooter Libby trial (I have since found the book) that the name and title of of the FBI agent was Inspector John C. (Jack) Eckenrode.

    I can’t quickly find what you are talking about. Is this an interview with Scooter Libby or with Tim Russert? The defense stipulated as to what Russert said.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  403. No sammrh the interrogation with Libby, russert was another reacted matter altigethet, miller’s memoirs show her notes mentioned bureaus, not stations or bases, which would be company jargon.

    narciso (732bc0)

  404. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/5/2016 @ 8:02 am

    As long as “No, I don’t make it out of New York” and “I know the head waters of the Platte river” can work for you, I can’t help.

    It’s basic geographical fact that the further upsdtream you go on a river, the less water there is in a river.

    And a map that shows you the river shows you the headwaters and it clearly goes into Colorado, or you could aybe more properly say, starts in Colorado. I know the Platte River splits into the North Platte River and the South Platte River.

    In an Atlas I have since found the South Platte River going through Denver, and verified taht online.

    If you want to argue that nobody in Colorado would refer simply to the “Platte River” well, I don’t know, but in New York we don’t usually say E. xx St or W. xx St. unless there is a reason. People omit the East or the West all the time. The North Platte River mostly goes into Wyoming, with maybe a tributary or two getting into northern Colorado, and you could probably jump over it, and it wouldn’t be deep enough to fish.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  405. funny thing, the cell leader tabaouni’s facebook page says brussels

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/05/politics/isis-suspects-terrorism-europe-documents/

    narciso (732bc0)

  406. narciso (732bc0) — 9/5/2016 @ 8:25 am

    No sammrh the interrogation with Libby, russert was another reacted matter altigethet, miller’s memoirs show her notes mentioned bureaus, not stations or bases, which would be company jargon.

    What’s all that about?

    You mean there was some kind of an issue as to what kind of a position Valerie Plame had in the CIA, or what Scooter Libby thought it was?

    How was any of this an issue? There was an issue of when Scooter Libby first learned that Valerie Plame worked there. At first he said it was from Tim Russert and/or other reporters. Later he said he learned that several months before from Vice President Dick Cheney, but had forgotten (at issue was whether he was discussing information known to the public, or not.)

    So you’re right. Scooter Libby did try to correct the record, or at least tell a different story -but not completely, because he still said that Tim Russert had mentioned the name Valerie Plame in his conversation with him.

    Now the thing is, none of that was the source for Bob Novak, and the “secret” that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent was not still important, or a secret really, and in any case she was no longer tthe kind of agent stationed abroad whom it is a crime to reveal is a CIA agent (because of the danger of being targeted for assassination)

    And the fact she worked for the CIA was a crucial piece of disinformation by the CIA – “explaining” why Joe Wilson was sent to Noger although it wasn’t the reason at all, bit scooter Lobby thought it was.

    The reason was that it was a way of evading Dick Cheney’s request to double check that information about Saddam Hussein having attempted to buy uranium from Niger, which resulted from forged documents – obviously forged documents in fact, that came from Italy and were vouched for by Tyler Drumheller.

    the same Tyler drumheller whom Sidney Blumenthal later said wrote or was the source for many of the memos he sent to Hillary Clinton, which she forwarded to Jake Sullivan at state.gov after removing Sidney Blumenthal’s name, and asked him to forward to other people in the U.S. government after further cleaning it up, and to have them report back to her their reaction.

    Hillary Clinton was tets-marketing disinformation for some foreign governments! Nobody understands this.

    And those memoes that did not originate in the State Department contained information that was later marked classified, some of it probably originating from the NSA.

    There are not many scandals – there is only one big scandal.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  407. the notes came from state, because that was the bureau, that wrote up the tell tale inr memo, that wrote about her tie to joe wilson, hence armitage who was as opposed to the war, was complaining about,

    narciso (732bc0)

  408. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/5/2016 @ 8:10 am

    I would hate to put words in sammeh’s mouth.

    He never actually said he had personal knowledge of the Platte.

    And I don’t think you have personal knowledge of the Battle of Saragarhi, but that doesn’t make you wrong. Although someone might want to look for more sources. I think I had good enough sources for where the Platte River goes.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  409. Tuoche, I suppose. You are right about me not reliving Saraghari. But this makes the headwaters of the Platte out of bounds, how?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  410. narciso (732bc0) — 9/5/2016 @ 8:59 am

    the notes came from state, because that was the bureau, that wrote up the tell tale inr memo,

    inr = ?

    that wrote about her tie to joe wilson,

    When Cheney inquired about why Joe Wilson was sent to Niger, ssibly at Scooter Libby’s instigation, whch in turn was probably prompted by a question from Judith Miller, the CIA cooked up this story about it being being because Valerie Plame was his wife.

    You must realize this is a lie. If you don’t, you don’t understand what happened here at all. And the CIA circulated this disinformation throughout higher levels of the U.S. government.

    And then when it wass leaked, they complained that an important secret was revealed and started a whole investigation. And the claim was made this was leaked as a form of retaliation against Joe Wilson, when the motive for publishing it would be that it “explained” why this nonsenical trip was made.

    The real purpose was to avoid having to retract this claim that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy yellowcake from Niger. Now this disinformation, if you understand it, benefitted Iraq, because, if it were true, it meant that Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program was all the way back to Square One – in fact Minus One, because in fact he didn’t get any yellowcake. But in fact Saddam Hussein had some enriched uranium and he certainly had uranium, which can be mined in Iraq. The whole program was in mothballs. He didn’t dare take anything out of mothballs, because it could get bombed.

    hence armitage who was as opposed to the war, was complaining about,

    I lost you here.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  411. no, sammeh, joe wilson was sent there, precisely to debunk because of his exwife’s ties to cogema through gabon, he did admit that there was an iraqi envoy, zahawie who visited niger back in 1999

    narciso (732bc0)

  412. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/5/2016 @ 9:14 am

    But this makes the headwaters of the Platte out of bounds, how?

    It’s not out of bounds.

    But I mean, just like you can know something to a reasonable certainty about a battlefield, or about 1897, without having been there, I can know something – a basic fact – about the Platte River without having been there.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  413. yes, he and powell, were opposed, in part because they were involved in azerbaijan, another predominantly shia country, run by a sunni ruling clique, the alievs.

    narciso (732bc0)

  414. It helps if you’re talking about a geographical feature to have have been there.

    I have never had to have this conversation with other than a New Yorker.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  415. Sammeh knows about the Platte river because “I had good enough sources.” Well then.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  416. Full disclosure. I know the Feather River.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  417. narciso (732bc0) — 9/5/2016 @ 9:20 am

    no, sammeh, joe wilson was sent there, precisely to debunk

    he was sent there NOT TO debunk it. He claimed in his first New York Times piece [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/what-i-didn-t-find-in-africa.html] that he’d debunked it, and that Cheney should have known this, but that was not true. He’d left it up in the air. Because the issue was not whether Niger had actually exported yellowcake to Iraq, but whether Iraq had sought to purchase uranium from Niger or signed a contract to do so.

    In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990’s. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president’s office.

    He did nothing of the sort. In fact, he even found some “corroborating evidence” of a possible attempt to purchase uranium.

    It seems like there was more than one source of this type of allegation. As I said, this actually weakened the case for invading Iraq, if you think about it. And it probably originated from Iraq or sources friendly to Iraq.

    And them the claim was made that in spite of Joe Wilson’s “report” – which was never written – by him anyway – George Bush had still said 16 words in his 2003 State of the Union address

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDzPDOoTt5c

    “The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa”

    Maybe there is probably a problem also with the word “recently” but there was actually a concerted disinformation claim to make the U.S. and Britain believe this. because it weakened the case for an invasion The question wasn’t how evil Saddam Hussein was. The question was his capabilities and intentions. And he was at least 10 or even 15 years away from a nuclear bomb even if the sanctions were lifted, then the case was weaker.

    Narciso:

    because of his exwife’s ties to cogema through gabon,

    What’s that? the important point was that he was once Ambassador to Niger and chargé d’affaires in Baghdad in 1990, and he was willing to play ball with whoever in the CIA wanted to keep this claim alive.

    he did admit that there was an iraqi envoy, zahawie who visited niger back in 1999

    To avoid a complete debunking.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  418. Sammy,

    If the prosecution of Scooter Libby depends upon the word “recently,” then Hillary definitely belongs in an orange jumpsuit

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  419. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/5/2016 @ 9:25 am

    It helps if you’re talking about a geographical feature to have have been there.

    You can make serious mistakes if you have never been there – like the way British Prime Minister David Lloyd George placed Canton, China in a completely wrong latitude in China – but it is not the only way to avoid mistakes.

    If nobody else you know, and nothing you read was written by someone who has been there, or had contact with someone who was there, or close, then you can have some problems.

    All I said was that the Platte River was also in Colorado – and then I looked into it further and found that the South Platte River was even in Denver!

    Now the Feather River – it’s hard finding ot where that is. But it seems like it runs near a city or town called Pulga in either Nevada, Utah or perhaps California.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FeatherRiver.JPG

    Described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feather_River_Route as

    A rare case of a bridge crossing over another bridge: here, State Route 70 crosses over the railroad bridge, which cross over the Feather River near Pulga.

    Actually we have that kind of thing – a bridge crossing over another bridge – in New York, quite a bit. I think a lot of highways have it too all over the country. Maybe not over water.

    I can’t find Pulga on the map!

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  420. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feather_River

    WTFO!?!? Next you’ll now, I’ll be ‘splaining how to use a Pulaski.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  421. Over water? And, rivers?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  422. I’m confuzuzzled.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  423. I think a lot of highways have it too all over the country. Maybe not over water.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  424. Do you know how bridges work?

    Steve57 (747e61)

  425. http://featherrivercountry.com/

    I have no idea what bridge Mr. New York is trying to find on the map. But you know what? I would help him, if he asked.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  426. Maybe this one.

    http://bridgehunter.com/ca/butte/bh44346/

    “UP – West Pulga Bridge

    Looking SE from Hwy 70”

    Will that work for you, Mr. “Can’t make it out of New York?”

    Steve57 (747e61)

  427. Full disclosure. I know the Feather River.

    Steve57 (747e61

    ==========================

    I’ll go you one better: I know fly fishing for shad on the Feather River.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  428. You can go me a lot better, coronello. All I know on Oroville is spin casting. And then, not much.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  429. 445. Steve57 (747e61) — 9/5/2016 @ 11:02 am

    Do you know how bridges work?

    theer are anumber of different categories of bridges, but they all work by:

    1) Keeping something together in one piece.

    2) Sometimes allowing some give

    3) Getting the center(s) of gravity on land, or on something that goes into the water till it hits bottom.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  430. Once, the Feather River while rafting took the top of a lady friend of mine. And I say friend, because I wasn’t about to let her walk around that way. So I said, hey!

    Steve57 (747e61)

  431. There’s just no convenient way to do certain things.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  432. Ladies, you have just tucked your skirt into your underwear. Now, you’re walking around in public.

    What would you have a friend do?

    This has come up. Twice. I have no idea.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  433. @358- Or open a campaign office in Queens at 704 Hauser Street.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  434. I had a picture of the bridge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FeatherRiver.JPG

    I had a dexcription:

    A rare case of a bridge crossing over another bridge: here, State Route 70 crosses over the railroad bridge, which cross over the Feather River near Pulga.

    But couldn’t find Pulga – and, as a result, could not find where and in what state the Feather River was, except it was clearly out west, but it could be in Utah\, Nevada (?) or somewhere in California, but I couldn’t find it.

    Then Steve57 gave a link, which conatined an important clue: It was a tributary of the Sacranmento River. In fact, the “principal tributary” And it ran from Lake Oroville.

    And I found it! It is north of Sacramento, in Sutter County. It isn’t very long. I didn’t find Lake Oroville, but I found Oroville.

    I never heard of the Feather River.

    But I found it has been mentioned – rarely – in the New York Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/22/us/thousands-crowd-shelters-in-flood.html

    February 22, 1986:

    The Yuba break was just upstream from the river’s confluence with the larger Feather River and not far from a 1964 break on the Feather River that devastated Yuba City and claimed 24 lives.

    I thought they only had earthquakes, and wildfires – maybe droughts – in California, not floods.

    It was also mentioned in 1953 – on July 16 – in an article entitled:

    ‘ Charge at Feather River’ an Indian Fracas ‘

    And in 2002:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/12/national/12INMA.html July 12:

    Freed From Jail Despite His Pleas, 92-Year-Old Is Found Dead in a River

    At 92 years old, Mr. Russell, stoop-shouldered, blind in one eye and suffering from prostate cancer, had finally been rescued from a life of utter loneliness. For the year and two months — 426 days — that he spent at the Butte County Jail for stabbing his 70-year-old landlord, he was Pops. He was given dibs on the television, allowed to be first in the food line, reserved a place in Monopoly game marathons.

    He rarely had visitors. But he did not need any. Here, among the transient population of men awaiting sentencing or trial, he had found community.

    When his body was found Wednesday in the Feather River, where he had fallen from a bridge just a hop from the Motel 6 where he went after his release, no one who knew him doubted what had happened. Mr. Russell had petitioned the court to keep him in jail indefinitely and had become depressed when a judge last month granted him probation, sentencing him to freedom. He said he would kill himself if he was sent “back out there,” with no family or friends.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  435. Also May 25, 1921:

    Headline: NEW POWER PLANT RECORD.; Construction on Feather River Part of Big Development.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  436. More recently:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/us/12pike.html

    SEPT. 12, 2007 (approximately 9 yeats ago)

    For the last decade, the state of California has waged a Sisyphean battle against the northern pike, a fish and a voracious eating machine….Since then, millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours have been spent trying to spike the pike…

    …In March 2003, the department used underwater detonation cord to try to blow up the pike. A grand total of four pike were killed. Jim Murphy, the city manager in Portola, a railroad town of 2,300 people along the Feather River, said he was guardedly optimistic about the new plans. “I don’t think any of us want or encourage a chemical being put in our drinking water or our recreational lake,” he said. “But we better understand the issues and need now.”

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  437. December 4, 1865: http://www.nytimes.com/1865/12/04/news/the-california-gold-discoverer-john-a-sutter.html

    Unbounded liberality is not always consistent with prudence, and it is not surprising that, while thousands of the more recent settlers of California have grown rich around him, he, the original pioneer, has grown poor. His leagues of land, (embracing the sites of Sacramento and Marysville,) his flocks and herds, have long since passed out of his possession, and, to complete his misfortunes, in June last his homestead on the banks of the Feather River, with all its treasures and associations, was destroyed by fire. Gen. SUTTER is not a man to repine at his lot, however hard it may be, and be now goes to revisit his birthplace among the mountains of Switzerland with the same lightness of heart, youthful flow of spirits, and philanthropic love of his fellows, as when he left it, 31 years ago.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  438. Should the situation come op, I’ll handle it like I always have. I’ll walk up to the lady, and I will treat her like a lady until proven wrong, and I will say here’s the situation. I’m sure you’d rather know about it than not.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  439. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 9/5/2016 @ 10:00 am

    If the prosecution of Scooter Libby depends upon the word “recently,” then Hillary definitely belongs in an orange jumpsuit

    Well, no he didn’t. That wasn’t the issue at all. That’s just supposed to be one way Bush lied.

    If the reports he had went back 3 or 4 years, and I don’t know that they all did, that’s not “recently”

    Recently would be after they started enforcing the sanctions again.

    But nodody pointed to “recently” as a way on which george Bush might have lied. It was the whole idea of Saddam hussein attemoting to buy iranium.

    Which was not true, but there were definitely reports about that, and Joe Wilson had not debunked it. The whole trip was arranged so that the CIA could give a reply to Dick Cheney’s inquiry without re-examining the evidence, which could have led to other possible conclusion than that the documents were forged amd that there was no basis whatsoever to suppose that Saddam Hussein was attempting to, or had attempted, too import uranium anytime in the last coupleof years. Uranium was mined in Iraq!

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  440. Hillary Clinton really did claim to be dazed and confused.

    In answer to the question as to whether she remembered being told various things in preparation for leaving the State Deppartment because she had had a concussion and a clood clot.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  441. Here is a Newsweek story about that:

    http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-concussion-fbi-report-495401

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  442. Legal Insurrection says that actually her e-mail was hacked by a TOR user. I had read earlier that an they said the e-mail of an aide of Bill Clinton’s had been hacked.

    Other sources say this was NOT Hillary’s email:

    https://www.wired.com/2016/09/fbi-says-bill-clinton-staffers-email-breached-private-server/

    On Friday afternoon, the FBI released a new set of documents from its now-concluded investigation into Clinton’s private email server controversy. The 60-page report includes a description of what sounds like an actual hacker compromise of one of Bill Clinton’s staffers. It describes that in early January 2013, someone accessed the email account of one of his female employees, whose name is redacted from the report. The unnamed hacker apparently used the anonymity software Tor to browse through this staffer’s messages and attachments. The FBI wasn’t able to determine how the hacker would have obtained the her [sic] username and password to access her account, which was also hosted on the same private server used by then-Secretary of State Clinton. .. The compromise of a Bill Clinton staffer—who almost certainly had no access to any of then-Secretary Clinton’s classified material—doesn’t make the security of those classified documents any clearer.

    The artyicle also says the security record at state.gov was worse.

    But often overlooked in Clinton’s email scandal, however, is the fact that the official State Department IT systems have suffered terrible breaches of their own. In 2014 and 2015, hackers believed to be based in Russia accessed State unclassified email systems so thoroughly that in November of 2014, the Department’s security staff were forced to take the email servers offline to try to root out the hackers.

    On Clinton’s private server, other than that single staffer’s compromised account, the FBI’s report notes only multiple hacking attempts in the form of “brute force” guessing of login credentials. Those attempts increased when the existence of the server was exposed by the New York Times in the spring of last year. But none of the recorded attempts seem to have succeeded. At one point, the FBI record notes, Clinton did receive an email containing a malicious link, sent from the apparently hijacked or spoofed personal account of a State Department staffer. Clinton responded, “Is this really from you? I was worried about opening it!” But the FBI found no evidence of malware on Clinton’s server or any of her personal devices. For all her security snafus, give Clinton this much credit: she can at least spot a phishing email when she sees it.

    That’s what I’ve been saying: Clintonemail.com had better security than state.gov or gmail. No back door. Any kind of brute force attack detected.

    And it was secure not only against foreign governments, but the entire rest of the Executive branch of the United States federal government, and Congress, and the federal judiciary, as well!

    There were also many attempts many attempts that failed.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  443. The FBI redacted Hillary Clinton’s date of birth!

    I didn’t know that was classfied, or private.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  444. that just shows you how disgusting she is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  445. Maudie coughs to press on B-tchforce One.

    The topic? Look over there! Russian squirrels!

    Suffers hacking bout hacking about hackers!

    Anybody who doesn’t believe there’s a-corn of truth about her health problems is a nut themselves.
    =cough=… =cough=…. =cough,cough,cough=

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  446. Happyfeet: What does?

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  447. @405 Sammy Finkleman

    The North Platte River runs through the less impressive downtown of Casper, WY. Named for lieutenant Caspar Collins, who crossed the North Platte and got killed by some Indians.

    UFC IV was held in Casper. I always have to laugh at the intro because the announcer says,”On the banks of the mighty Platte River…”

    As to North Platte,NE-it’s a hellhole. I wouldn’t make convicted murderers drive across NE, it’s cruel and unusual punishment.

    Pinandpuller (75127d)

  448. @436 Steve57

    When I was in high school one cross country meet per season would be held at Custer Battlefield.

    I know quite a bit about The Battle of the Little Bighorn, but then again I was chased five kilometers around it by dozens of Indians.

    Pinandpuller (75127d)

  449. “I can’t find Pulga on a map!” Sammy Finkleman

    Maybe your thumb is in the way.

    Pinandpuller (75127d)

  450. @440 Steve57

    My dad was, among other things, a wildland firefighter. That kind of Pulaski?

    Pinandpuller (75127d)

  451. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0NefrD5H-o

    European Touring Car 1986

    Steve57 (747e61)

  452. I am a total …you know what.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  453. My uncle was a battalion chief. Good enough?

    And I did damage control.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  454. This is what has to be turned away at all costs.

    crazy (d3b449)

  455. Uncle. My dad was a Coastie. My Uncle was the firefighter.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  456. That kind of Pulaski.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  457. @Pinandpuller Pulga is not on the map. There’s an index to the map in the atlas, too.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  458. Steve, my late father was a fire department battalion chief. His proudest accomplishment: he never lost a firefighter on his watch, for nearly twenty years before he retired.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  459. You mean North Platte, Nebraska, the city? That’s near where the river splits into (or comes from) two branches.

    Does UFC stand for Ultimate Fighting Championship? They held the 4th one, in Casper, Wyoming?

    Maybe the Platte River might be mighty, just not that far upstream.

    Sammy Finkelman (337057)

  460. Here’s another person in Hillary’s entourage who lied to the FBI: (from every article you learn something more)

    http://www.nationalreview.com/morning-jolt/439700/

    “State employees alleged that John Bentel, [a senior State Department official, handling IT for senior officials] discouraged employees from raising concerns about Clinton’s use of personal e-mail.”

    When interviewed by the FBI, Bentel denied anyone raising any concerns, that he had discouraged anyone from raising those concerns, or that he was aware she was using a personal account for State business. This seems implausible. As Clinton herself said to the FBI, it was common knowledge among State Department employees.

    Even in the case of contradictions, the FBI treats things as if nobody is lying.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  461. Anotehr memory lapse:

    “In 2011, a notice to all State employees was sent on Clinton’s behalf, which recommended employees avoid conducting State business on personal e-mail accounts due to information security concerns.”

    Clinton said she didn’t recall sending that notice or ever getting any advice on using personal accounts

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  462. From Morning Jolt:

    CLINTON stated she received no instructions or direction regarding the preservation or production of records from State during the transition out of her role as Secretary of State in early 2013. However, in December of 2012, CLINTON suffered a concussion and then around the New Year had a blood clot. Based on her doctor’s advice, she could only work at State for a few hours a day and could not recall every briefing she received. CLINTON did not have any discussions with aides about turning over her email records, nor did anyone from State request them. She believed her work-related emails were captured by her practice of sending email to the state.gov email address of her staff. CLINTON was unaware of the requirement to turn over printed records at that time. Her physical records were boxed up and handled by aides.

    Ace of Spades noticed, “Hillary’s Brain Damage came right at the sweet spot: It came to provide her an alibi, then left just in time to permit her to be president.”

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  463. Simon @479, I feel the same way. I never was really tested in my twenty years. But my proudest moment was when during a theoretical casualty drill, an umpire said I had saved a life. “Your officer knows what to do.” The aid I rendered was judged effective.

    To this day I carry a Craftsman toolbox full of first aid supplies in my truck, just in case.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  464. @Pinandpuller Pulga is not on the map. There’s an index to the map in the atlas, too.
    Sammy Finkelman (337057) — 9/6/2016 @ 7:19 am

    It’s on the map.

    http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/15043271/Highway-70-25-miles-NW-of-Pulga-Bridge-Oroville-CA/i

    Sammeh, it’s on the damned map.

    Steve57 (747e61)

  465. Does anyone have any idea what map Sammy is looking at?

    Steve57 (747e61)


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