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I don’t care for the picture they use, which makes it look like it is going to be silly, when in fact it is smashingly effective.

Patterico (bcf524) — 8/6/2016 @ 2:00 pm

It’s probably the most effective compilation of blatant Trump contradictions I have ever seen.

And it will not give pause to one True Believer.

Bill H (971e5f) — 8/6/2016 @ 2:37 pm

Americans don’t want to be governed, they wish to be entertained.

It’s a Dallas vs. Maude election. So ask yourself which would you prefer in your face for four years on TV: Hagman haggling as Tilton, Principal and Gray jiggle into you living room across a 40 inch screen? Or a pantsuited Bea Arthur, who reminds you of your first wife from 1975, wagging her finger, nagging you to take out the trash in the middle of the 4th quarter of Monday Night Football?

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 2:42 pm

I sent that video to a friend a few days ago. I told him that it’s why I’m voting for Trump like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJR2LEihQY

Andrew (c91549) — 8/6/2016 @ 2:50 pm

The puffed up photoshop is less disgusting than Trump’s actual face, especially when he’s talking and those Roy Cohn-trained lips pout out like a prehensile duck-beak. I could only stand to watch a couple of minutes.

nk (dbc370) — 8/6/2016 @ 3:11 pm

3.Neither — if I wanted raunch/T&A in the 70s, I’d wait for the syndicated reruns of Benny Hill.

urbanleftbehind (3098f0) — 8/6/2016 @ 3:16 pm

More anti-Trump, different day…

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9f_1470457180

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/6/2016 @ 3:17 pm

One more time, DCSCA: Trump isn’t J.R. Ewing. He’s Louie DePalma from Taxi.

Watch this and tell me it doesn’t remind you of Trump.

L.N. Smithee (397bcb) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:00 pm

@6. A Briton can’t run [although a Canadian tried]– unless the video is sped up. 😉 .

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:00 pm

@8. One more time: learn some New Yawk: He’s JR Ewing. The sound and attitude is a Queens De Palma.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:03 pm

@8. Postscript. Melania Trump ain’t no Rhea Perlman.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:04 pm

@8. One more time: learn some New Yawk: He’s JR Ewing. The sound and attitude is a Queens De Palma.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:03 pm

You didn’t watch the linked video.

L.N. Smithee (397bcb) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:06 pm

This isn’t “anti-Trump”, this is “WTF have you people been smoking!?!”

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:10 pm

motives are yet to be determined,

http://linkis.com/news.sky.com/story/w5OPF

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:10 pm

It’s a Dallas vs. Maude election

JR Ewing would have you killed for that comparison.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:11 pm

@8. Postscript. Melania Trump ain’t no Rhea Perlman.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:04 pm

If it was a priority of mine that pictures of the First Lady be suitable for pinning up on the underside of my big brother’s top bunk, I wouldn’t be calling you frighteningly stupid.

L.N. Smithee (397bcb) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:14 pm

sound and fury signifying nothing, except the drones buzz,

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/06/poll-trump-erases-clintons-convention-bump/

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:29 pm

the sprockets need to be switched out on frequent basis,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wGubLkpEhE

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 4:44 pm

@12- =yawn= Did. And FTR, DeVito is Jersey boy, anyway. DePalma dispatches taxis. JR dispatches enemies. DePalma would bet on the Jets. JR would fly- or buy- them. Rest easy, bunk boy. A President Trump won’t be calling his wife “Mommie.”

@15- Worse. He’d have Maude cancelled.

@16- “I wouldn’t give you the dust off my car.” – Donald Trump? Louis DePalma? Or JR Ewing?

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 5:38 pm

I remember one season, where marc singer was the guest villain, and jr planned a coup in the middle east that didn’t quite make it, that was the retconned season,

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 5:49 pm

#19 DCSCA wrote,

“DePalma dispatches taxis. JR dispatches enemies. DePalma would bet on the Jets. JR would fly- or buy- them.”
———————

Wow, what a line, especially the part about Jets/jets.
You know, Bob Hope used to have thousands of jokes written on little index cards filed in cabinets according to subject heading.
You didn’t have that line filed on an index card — you just wrote that off the top of your head. I tip my hat.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:33 pm

DCSCA

I’m not sure Betty White will last another four years.

Gotta go with Dallas.

Pinandpuller (c16705) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:40 pm

I dubbed her rosie the robot, for reasons made clear,

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:43 pm

You know, I do love it when Rush calls O’Reilley Ted Baxter.

Pinandpuller (c16705) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:43 pm

well he’s really closer to kent brockman,

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:44 pm

I like the sound track — Rossini’s “The Thieving Magpie.”

Beldar (fa637a) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:48 pm

DCSCA

Nevertrumpers don’t want Dallas or Maude. Their votes will bring back Fantasy Island.

Pinandpuller (a12946) — 8/6/2016 @ 6:56 pm

compared to some of the schlock that abc now has on, fantasy island is like puccini,

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:03 pm

The #NeverTrumpers hope for Fantasy Island, but they’re going to deliver us The Twilight Zone if Hillary wins.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:16 pm

So All in the Family was WJC.

Which spun off The Jeffersons aka BHO.

Now they want the second spinoff Maude.

But we need four years of Dallas to get into syndication (another term for The Mob eh?).
By then Mike Pence will look less like Dr Drew and more like Blake Carrington.

Dynasty!

Pinandpuller (a12946) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:41 pm

speaking truth to power never really a thing,

http://www.startribune.com/trump-s-swipe-at-minnesota-somalis-met-with-outrage-satisfaction/389353501/

as a college friend of man, used to say ‘you laugh’ but where do you think lorimar got the money to produce dallas?

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:44 pm

even eight is enough, gulp.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2013/01/merv-adelson-las-vegas-mob

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:48 pm

Cruz Supporter

I think Chris Christy might have some ideas on how To Serve Man.

Pinandpuller (c16705) — 8/6/2016 @ 7:56 pm

Pinandpuller, since we’re citing titles of particular TZ episodes, I have to do my best Earl Holliman impersonation and ask of the #NeverTrumpers, “Where is Everybody?”

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/6/2016 @ 8:07 pm

PinandPuller,

I think Brett Favre is looking a lot like Blake Carrington these days.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/6/2016 @ 8:08 pm

since he got tenure, he’s gotten silly,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/05/400-million-in-cash-was-flown-to-iran-back-in-january-was-that-wrong/?hpid=hp_hp-cards_hp-card-posteverything%3Ahomepage%2Fcard

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 8:31 pm

And, as I’ve said before, it’s four years of The Monkees vs Roseanne’s Nuts.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/6/2016 @ 8:39 pm

what a load of doubletalk in that last link I put up, the only stupider were the commenters,

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 8:44 pm

the center right and the left kept the populist right to insure this circumstance,

http://rightedition.com/2016/08/06/bureaucratic-mess-sees-belgian-jihadist-freed-4-months-15yr-sentence/

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 9:03 pm

how poorly thought out is this decision, this poorly,

http://founderscode.com/belgium-knew-network/

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 9:33 pm

good news everyone,

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/697369/Muslim-Brotherhood-uk-asylum-shocking-Home-Office-memo

narciso (732bc0) — 8/6/2016 @ 9:51 pm

@ 29

Oh, thou ludicrous ostrich. Anyone who voted for Trump, and anyone who voted for Clinton, already triggered Rod Serling’s big comeback. If I suddenly decided to renounce my pledge and vote for Trump, my vote would not save you from the fate of President Hillary. If all of us were to do what you wanted, you’d STILL have President Hillary. Look at the polls, man. Look at the polls.

As for me, since I’m going to suffer a Hillary presidency in either event, I will at least not fall to the ridiculous depths of Homer Simpson. I will not vote for Kodos.

Although I might, at this point, if I could write him in…

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/6/2016 @ 10:22 pm

Is there a way to run a slate of Electors pledged to Jerry Brown in California? I don’t tink yiu need his permission. And some otyehr candidates in otehr states.

Sammy Finkelman (7b0afd) — 8/7/2016 @ 7:17 am

The Trumpalos of course will ignore this. Because TRUMP.

I also love how people blame the #NeverTrump movement for Trump losing to Clinton. I thought we didn’t have any power since we couldn’t stop him In The primary’s. Suddenly we are a force in the much larger primaries?

Or maybe we were right and trump is a terrible candidate who is the only one who couldn’t beat the other terrible candidate.

Patrick Henry, the 2nd (ddead1) — 8/7/2016 @ 8:04 am

Good job on FNS, Senator Tom Cotton!

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/7/2016 @ 8:41 am

Cotton says the Barack Administration acted like a drug cartel by making a ransom payment in cash.
Awesome!

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/7/2016 @ 9:15 am

Look at the polls, man. Look at the polls.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/6/2016 @ 10:22 pm

There are some polls showing it close. I believe Trump will outperform his polls by several percent. I could see as much as 5%, based on net difference. Jeffrey Gundlach, a leading Wall Street money manager, believes he’ll significantly outperform his polls.

Gerald A (76f251) — 8/7/2016 @ 9:54 am

Trailing candidates always say they will outperform the polls. Sometimes they do. But not by a lot. Hillary’s mistakes are largely behind her. Trump’s occur daily and there will be film at 11.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2016 @ 10:53 am

Of course, Hillary’s mistakes now including outing an Iranian asset who they just hanged. Certainly Trump would never be this careless with email. (/sarc)

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2016 @ 10:55 am

stinkypig is gonna be rejected cause of nobody will abide her stench

thank goodness though Mr. Trump will be there for to help with leadership and such

happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/7/2016 @ 10:58 am

There are some polls showing it close.

Clinton is leading in every one of the last eleven polls listed, at this date, in the RCP average main page. Eight of those polls have her up by 5 or more. Of the eight polls with close dates in August, five have Clinton leading at or outside the margin of error. Two have her leading inside the margin of error. The one that doesn’t list a margin of error, interestingly, is the one where Trump does best. And even there, Clinton leads by 1.

Which is my long-winded way of saying that while your statement is literally true, your evidence is not strong enough to draw the conclusions that you want to draw.

I believe Trump will outperform his polls by several percent. I could see as much as 5%, based on net difference.

1) Lots of people believe lots of things. Not to be rude, but who are you, that I should weigh your beliefs so heavily? What is your background in polling? Why should your opinion count as much as, or more than, the opinion of a proven expert — like Nate Silver? Why should I give your opinion even as much weight as the evidence of my own eyes?

2) On what is your belief based? I don’t have time to go back and research the exact numbers right now, but when the Republican primary was in full swing, Trump rarely outperformed his polls. In fact, he often significantly underperformed them, by roughly the 5% margin you’re citing. If he so often underperformed with Republican voters, why should he do better in the general, which include far more voters that should be far less inclined toward him?

3) What net difference do you mean? The net difference between two particular sets of polls? The net difference between Trump’s past polling and his past results? (Surely not that…it wouldn’t cut in your favor.) The net difference between Trump’s past results-against-polling and Clinton’s past results-against-polling? And where do you get this number of 5%?

Jeffrey Gundlach, a leading Wall Street money manager, believes he’ll significantly outperform his polls.

Oh. Well, if that is the opinion of Jeffrey Gundlach, an authority I’ve never heard of in a field totally unrelated to political polling, then it must be true. Yours is obviously a well-founded contention, and how silly I was to think otherwise. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m due for a conference call with Katy Perry to get her insights on Middle Eastern disarmament, followed by a dinner with John McCain where we’ll be discussing which of the current “Dancing with the Stars” pros is the best technical dancer.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:02 am

My last comment (#51) was directed at Gerald A, #47. Sorry — normally I would have put that in there. Ms. Perryis such a fascinating conversationalist that I just forgot.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:04 am

Demosthenes,

We appreciate you stopping by to give us a free lecture.
Will you be signing any of your books in the lobby?

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:15 am

Ah effendi smirk he was the source for 2007 nie on iran, a reverse curveball.

narciso (732bc0) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:19 am

‘Hillary Clinton recklessly discussed, in emails hosted on her private server, an Iranian nuclear scientist who was executed by Iran for treason, Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said Sunday.

“I’m not going to comment on what he may or may not have done for the United States government, but in the emails that were on Hillary Clinton’s private server, there were conversations among her senior advisors about this gentleman,” he said on “Face the Nation.” Cotton was speaking about Shahram Amiri, who gave information to the U.S. about Iran’s nuclear program.

The senator said this lapse proves she is not capable of keeping the country safe.

“That goes to show just how reckless and careless her decision was to put that kind of highly classified information on a private server. And I think her judgment is not suited to keep this country safe,” he said.’

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cotton-clinton-discussed-executed-iranian-scientist-on-email/article/2598807

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:29 am

Colonel Haiku, it could be revealed that Hillary stored the nuclear codes on her unsecured server yet the #NeverTrumpers will still be entirely focused on Melania’s eighth grade book report or her risque photo-shoot of twenty-some years ago.

They want to punish Trump.
They have no interest in punishing Hillary.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/7/2016 @ 11:56 am

@46- Cottonmouth venom kills, eh?

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/7/2016 @ 12:16 pm

I believe Trump will outperform his polls by several percent </blockquote. I think that's correct unless the people doing the polls adjust for that.

Bob Dole, in 1996, outperformed his polls in 1996 by about 8%, although Wikipedia says the Gallup poll (which it used) hit it on the mark (but Clinton got 3% less than he polled)

The polls were wrong, but they weren't wrong enough.

One factor this year, is that that people could drift to and from the Libertarian Party candidate, but mostly nott to Donald Trump.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 8/7/2016 @ 12:17 pm

@27. Their votes will bring back Fantasy Island.

Recall cameras caught Tedtoo rehearsing in Cleveland as ‘TrumpForce One’ came in to land: “De plane! De plane!”

But his pilot didn’t fly– except to haul him back to Texas.

DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/7/2016 @ 12:26 pm

“44. I also love how people blame the #NeverTrump movement for Trump losing to Clinton. I thought we didn’t have any power since we couldn’t stop him In The primary’s. Suddenly we are a force in the much larger primaries? Or maybe we were right and trump is a terrible candidate who is the only one who couldn’t beat the other terrible candidate.”

Mr. Trump is the only thing standing between Hillary and the White House.
Everything that weakens him improves her chance.

Sorry you didn’t get the champion you wanted, your preferred champion failed to make the cut.
Mr. Trump is champion we have.

As a wise man once said, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had.

Maybe Cruz or Rubio or Kasich or whoever could have beaten Hillary. Maybe, maybe not — it’s impossible to prove a counterfactual.
But that doesn’t matter now; none of them are in the ring.

Mr. Trump is the only thing standing between Hillary and the White House.
Everything that weakens him improves her chance.

fred-2 (ce04f3) — 8/7/2016 @ 1:17 pm

Mr. Trump is the only thing standing between Hillary and the White House.

Then Hillary will be the next President. Own up to your mistakes.

Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/7/2016 @ 1:32 pm

Kevin M,

It’s not about infidel conservatives “owning” up to their mistakes.
It’s about a choice between two nominees.

We shouldn’t be voting for President based on wanting to punish people — that’s what left wingers do.

Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/7/2016 @ 1:45 pm

Looks like they revised the image for the YouTube video, in Patterico’s blog post. First they use one image, then another….flip-flippers! Seriously, it is indeed a disturbing video, and we’ll see if Trump continues to be more consistent than he used to be. Please consider voting for Trump in the following manner:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkJR2LEihQY

Andrew (c91549) — 8/7/2016 @ 1:58 pm

Cruz Supporter… the perfidy and arrogance of certain folks is appalling.

Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/7/2016 @ 2:11 pm

@ Cruz Supporter, #53

Is that the best you can do? Respond to substance with snark?

Oh, yes. Trump supporter. Never mind.

And you proved it again with #62, by the way. I am not trying to punish you. Neither is Kevin. Anyone who voted for Trump or Hillary, helping them to secure the nomination, has already punished all of us. I’m just not buying into your binary narrative — you know, the one that says if we refuse to vote for the Democrat who’s running as a Republican, that means we’re supporting the Democrat who’s running as a Democrat. Also, the one that says if we refuse to vote for a man we know we can’t trust, that means we’re supporting a woman we know we can’t trust. Not every binary choice has a good, or even a less bad, answer. And Gary Johnson IS on the ballot.

If you persist in ignoring Trump’s record of going back on pretty much every damn thing he says, and his long cronyist history of supporting progressive politicians and causes, that’s your affair. If you can’t quite bring yourself to ignore it, but nevertheless think he’d have to be a better president that Hillary just because she’s so bad he can’t possibly be worse, fine. But people like me don’t agree with you. That’s all there is to it.

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/7/2016 @ 3:58 pm

all is not what shows on the cave wall:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/08/the_press_and_pollsters_are_putting_too_much_cornstarch_in_the_cherry_pie.html

narciso (732bc0) — 8/7/2016 @ 4:02 pm

@ Colonel Haiku, #64

That wasn’t a very nice thing to say about Cruz Supporter. He’s not perfidious or arrogant. He’s just wrong. Okay, maybe he’s being a *little* arrogant about it, but still…

Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/7/2016 @ 4:04 pm

I assume that paterricco chooses to boost the Hillary campaign because he imagines Trump losing will validate his life choices and he can claim to have been one of the cool rebels all along. However when Trump wins, what will he be? Part of the loser chorus who did their very best to derail their own party candidate. I can imagine his readership sinking into 3 digits shortly after. It will be well deserved.

Mr Black (7c41e5) — 8/9/2016 @ 5:29 am

Ever listen to someone for awhile and wonder…
who the hell is tying their shoelaces?

mg (1c2d1e) — 8/9/2016 @ 5:34 am

This video could be improved if it contained more dates and circumstances. It seems to have been put in only when absolutely necessary.

Maybe half of it I remember.

Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 8/11/2016 @ 12:11 pm

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