Ted Cruz Confirms He Will Speak At Republican Convention
[guest post by Dana]
Remember when Donald Trump told the New York Times that he would not invite Republicans to speak at the Republican convention if they didn’t endorse him?
“If there’s no endorsement, I would not invite them to speak,” Trump said in an interview, adding that former rivals like Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. John Kasich should not expect to address the convention if they continue to withhold their support.
Apparently, like with any number of claims he’s made on the campaign trail, Trump has flip-flopped on this one as well. This morning, it was announced that Ted Cruz will be speaking at the Republican convention – at the invitation of Donald Trump and without having endorsed the “pathological liar”:
Sen. Cruz and Donald Trump had a good meeting this morning. There was no discussion of any endorsement. Mr. Trump asked Sen. Cruz to speak at the Republican convention, and Sen. Cruz said he would be happy to do so. Mr. Trump also asked Sen. Cruz for his counsel on future judicial nominations, and Cruz responded he would continue to do everything he can to help ensure principled constitutionalists on the courts.
Given that Cruz had already won the necessary states to guarantee him a speaking slot at the convention, how does this decision benefit him? Is he going to try and re-focus Republicans to unite behind Trump (and do what Trump has been utterly unable to do)? Or, is he thinking about a likely run of his own in 2020? Or, could it be as simple as saying “thank-you” to his 600 delegates?
Just for kicks, I’ll just throw this little tidbit to chew on:
Months after Donald Trump appeared to seal the Republican nomination for president, anti-Trump forces still have one last chance to force a vote on the party’s convention floor that would throw open the GOP contest again.
It’s a long shot, but by some counts they are remarkably close to getting past the first hurdle next week in Cleveland.
Mr. Trump’s intraparty foes, led by a group of rogue delegates, are waging an intense behind-the-scenes effort to push the Republican National Convention’s Rules Committee for a vote on freeing delegates to back whom they wish, rather than being bound to Mr. Trump.
The presumptive nominee’s team is fighting back just as vehemently, with an organized campaign of dozens of aides and volunteers. It’s a power struggle that has prompted threats of reprisals and left many Republicans anxious that it could hurt the party’s prospects in November.
The anti-Trump camp needs the backing of 28, or one-quarter, of the 112 Convention Rules Committee members, in order to place the issue before the full convention. A Wall Street Journal survey suggests it could be close.
In interviews, 20 members said they are willing to consider allowing delegates to be unbound, while 59 support Mr. Trump. The other 33 panelists couldn’t be reached or did not respond to repeated messages.
Others counting votes have their own tallies. Internal surveys of the Rules Committee conducted by RNC member Randy Evans of Georgia, who is whipping votes trying to help Mr. Trump fend off the insurrection, found at least 18 committee members open to voting to unbind. The Trump campaign’s count shows about 15 leaning toward the so-called conscience clause, according to people familiar with the campaign.
Kendal Unruh, a Colorado schoolteacher on the committee leading part of the anti-Trump movement, said she has private commitments from more than 30 committee members, but that many aren’t willing to admit so publicly.
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Though a majority of the convention delegates are bound to support Mr. Trump, Mr. Evans’s count shows just about 890 delegates are personally loyal to the New Yorker. Another 680 oppose Mr. Trump. That leaves 900 delegates who are presumed to be “in play,” he said. The stop-Trump forces would have to take nearly two-thirds of them to block his nomination.
PS: Ben Sasse has made it clear he has better things to do than attend the convention:
Sen. Sasse will not be attending the convention and will instead take his kids to watch some dumpster fires across the state, all of which enjoy more popularity than the current front-runners.”
–Dana
Political suicide if Cruz caves and endorses.
Dana (995455) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:11 pmMr. Cruz could go a long way towards redeeming himself by giving a nice speech and endorsing the nominee.
I hope he can find the courage.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:15 pmEliana Johnson at NRO reported yesterday that Cruz was starting some new 501 organizations which she thinks is the precursor to mounting a 2020 run for the Presidency, either against the incumbent Democrat or against a potentially unpopular and disappointing Republican.
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:34 pmJVW,
Do you think that is the reason for agreeing to do this?
Dana (995455) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:36 pmA public apology from Trump to Cruz, his wife, and his father would be more likely to garner the endorsement. And courage isn’t the issue, it is forgiveness. And it’s not just Cruz, it’s his family.
This might be a valuable learning experience for Trump.
BobStewartatHome (a52abe) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:54 pmThis might be a valuable learning experience for Trump.
You are assuming an awful lot here.
Dana (995455) — 7/7/2016 @ 2:56 pmMr. Cruz needs to clean up the spilt milk in the kitchen and stop crying if it’s too hot and there’s too many cooks to pay the piper for the spoiled broth.
This is obvious to anyone who is willing to do the analysis.
You have to meet people half way.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:01 pmThe republican party is toast.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:20 pmlmao at the elites who could not find some dolt to beat Trump. Blame Boosh republicans for this disaster. These morons will be giving the house and senate to the grifter party.
Cuyahoga bon fire.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:21 pmTrump offers Cruz an olive branch and to his credit Cruz has the ethical fiber to graciously accept. Yet, the diehards here can’t seem to rise to the occasion. Typical sour grapes knuckle draggers, why expect anything else?
ropelight (596f46) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:21 pmThe first 100 days of clinton will end up a civil war between those of us with weapons and those trying to take them. Bring it on you dried up coot.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:25 pmDo you think that is the reason for agreeing to do this?
Yep. My guess is he will deliver a full-throated defense of Constitutional conservatism, much like Ted Kennedy’s paean to big government liberalism at the Jimmy Carter’s convention in 1980.
JVW (eabb2a) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:27 pmCruz is the leader of the new Republican Party. The old deadwood will have their fling in Cleveland with Demented Donna, but it will be their last tango. They will fade away into a Geritol dream after this election.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:44 pmBelieve it or not, the GOP convention is about more than picking its presidential nominee for this cycle. That’s the big enchilada, sure. But it’s entirely appropriate for Sen. Cruz to speak at the convention, and he needn’t (and might not) say a single word about Donald Trump in that speech.
Trump is temporary. I will stay in the GOP and fight on (including fighting Trump and Trumpkins); I don’t acknowledge his or their status, which will be short-lived at best. When Drumpf is back in the historical dumpster of reality TV shows where he belongs, I expect to still be in the GOP, and I expect that I’ll still be a fan of my home state’s junior senator.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:44 pm#10 above ^^^ Typical Trumpkin crap, they think the universe revolves around their Donald and that they are bathed in his glory.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:46 pmi like spinach enchiladas the best
Mr. Cruz needs to keep his eye on the ball and to try not to alienate any more people than he already has.
I would be happy to help him with his speech for example please to not talk about trannies dildos wiggle giggles or your super best friends forever Kim Davis.
Let’s focus on things that I like to call “unitey things” for example:
· stinky pig is a filthy criminal
· the economy sucks
· individual liberty is not respected in failmerica anymore
· global warming is a sick twisted hateful marxist scam
· Loretta Lynch is too goddamn fat sleazy and corrupt
· lastly please say something about ethanol cause of that’ll really get Mr. Trump’s goat hahaha
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:54 pmWay to go, Beldar. I thought you might be going soft on me.
ropelight (596f46) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:57 pmoops *stinkypig* is a filthy criminal i mean
(even if cowardly snivelpoop James Comey says she’s a super great awesome person who truly believes in sparkle motion)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 3:57 pmCruz could speak and say all kinds of good things,
Even how important it is to defeat Ms. Clinton,
Who, according to Comey,
is not a criminal only because she is not “sophisticated enough” to realize that “C” on an email to her means that it is classified………..
Hoping you trial lawyers will have time to go over today’s proceedings and do a break down for us.
BTW, what needs to happen is someone like Chafetz or Gowdy takes this bull by the horns and says the Clintons and their enablers are not going to get away with it anymore,
MD in Philly (b3fd16) — 7/7/2016 @ 4:20 pmAnd you have your repub nominee.
Cruz needs to just bide his time and watch Trump self destruct.
It’s Hillary’s election to lose.
There are too many minority voters and those hoping that the gravy train continues. Sorry, but the Donald has alienated too many people to be a serious threat to a Hillary.
After this election defeat, Cruz can then assume Republican leadership in a ’20 White house bid.
I’m very surprised that so many are beholden to Trump.
scott (2bad05) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:03 pmit’s really a bit silly to predict that harvardtrash ted will win the nomination in four years
nobody – especially harvardtrash ted – thought Mr. Trump would win this year
four years from now is forever
all we can do is hope for the best (Mr. Trump wins) and plan for the worst (stinkypig wins)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:09 pm::sigh::
Cruz is being more realistic that you anti-trumpers. You just want to signal your virtue. And how Purely COnservative you are. Like anybody cares other than your mother. Cruz wants to continue to have a political future in the Republican party.
fred-2 (ce04f3) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:10 pmyes yes his first and number one job is to dispel the idea that he’s a sore loser
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:11 pmThe list is long of those who have lost the nomination and then returned 4 years later.
I’m not an anti-Trumper.
I just can’t watch a candidate shoot himself in the foot multiple times and walk away from the experience thinking the man is presidential.
Your candidate is sloppy. And that spills over to the economic and foreign policy.
scott (2bad05) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:26 pmMIA in the Hillary email threads. Always on hand to shiv Trump.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:35 pmThe returdlicans are a flush away from the sewer.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:46 pmI guess it’s the Clinton’s majesty that precludes Beldar’s wrath.
takes to knee at the sight of royalty.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:48 pmthere is a certain failure to acknowledge reciprocity among the late bob bennett, lee, who sees more kinship with red squaw and mr, flake, for whom there can be rarely be a strong condemnation
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:48 pmYou need to get the delegates to vote a rule change, either to release all bindings, or to evade that somehow (e.g. requiring a 3/4ths vote to win on the first 3 ballots) if people are really concerned about unenforceable and silly state laws.
This would require some of the Trump partisans to have doubts. I’m not sure what that might be.
Something would have to come up, right before the convention that would make it nearly impossible to nominate Trump. A credible rape allegation, self-immolation in front of the Trump tower by a truly tragic victim of his machinations, a Mel Gibson-style meltdown, something that shocks the conscience.
Personally, I’ll settle with any intervention, but I’m not expecting one. The traitors have won and their plan to destroy the United States of America appears to be a success.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 7/7/2016 @ 5:50 pm“[Beldar] takes to knee at the sight of royalty.”
– papertiger
Better than grabbing his ankles at the sight of a short-fingered vulgarian.
Leviticus (769af4) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:03 pmI would say any endorser of red queen, is like ephialtes, the real traitor,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:13 pmTrump is as much a Republican as Chelsea Manning is a woman.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:14 pmJust did the super search on Patterico dot com for “caribou barbie”.
Who do you think was the early adopter of that phrase?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:19 pmThere are a certain percentage who are the Comey type of republican.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:21 pmDoes this mean Trump isn’t gonna nuke Denmark now? Cruz is done. He’ll be the star of the Hillary TV ads talking about how Trump will nuke Denmark. And they tell me he’s a genius. He’ll be the most hated man in America after Hillary wins. He’ll get all the blame.
So now that you can see the future, what’s the solution to reversing the fate?
Jcurtis (280a19) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:23 pmIt’s like Teddy Roosevelt. His famous quotes are all about motivating the chicken hearted low energy “Comey type” to do their job.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:25 pmDid you guess Beldar?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:27 pmTrump always has been and always will be his own worst enemy.
We initially thought that he had the courage of his convictions and wouldn’t back down,
But with time it is clear that he just likes to make a commotion.
The ad showing him mocking the disabled journalist is good for 5% points right there.
He doesn’t just hit his foot when he shoots himself.
It has nothing to do with how pure of a conservative one is,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:33 pmit is about wanting to have a candidate that doesn’t have the highest negative rating of all time.
So now that you can see the future, what’s the solution to reversing the fate?
Trump gets indicted for fraud, racketeering and tax evasion in the next two weeks, and not in October as Lynch is planning.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:34 pmbeldar, was a very big supporter of the huntress, back then seems eons ago, but it seems she dissapointed too many people, between the flood of ethics complaints, wrong endorsements, being blamed for tucson, slandered about adultery, (much like the enquirer did this spring to cruz) having a stalker on her back porch, having her family attacked, all this talk of truth, will bear out in eight fracking years I’ve seen none of it,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:35 pmI wouldn’t have taken that tack, but he was rightly annoyed, that kovalski was denying his own reporting and by extension, all contemporaneous accounts of what went on 15 years, the trojan only lasted for 10,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:38 pmI don’t care if he dogs out Palin.
But it really chaps my hide the sob coming in here throwing shade on Trump this week of all weeks, when he has nary an ill tempered word to say about Clinton.
Eff U and that brand of stab the guy in the fox hole next to you republicanism.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:43 pmSomeone should ask Hillary since her foreign policy is to topple Muslim dictatorships, will we be overthrowing Saudi Arabia sheiks next?
Oh that’s right…
Her highness doesn’t take questions.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/7/2016 @ 6:54 pmHaving to read insulting and ridiculous crap from the Trumpkin shills is the toll one must pay to read Patterico’s comments section.
So the fact that I still often do so is a high tribute to the rest of you. Thanks.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:00 pmI voted for Cruz in the primary, and now I back the party candidate I’m a Trumpkin shill.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:12 pmIn years past these same people would berate me if I did not vote for the party imbecile.
You people are far too educated for me.
they are still not over macho grande, I don’t think they ever will be, perhaps when the sepah take down the electrical grid, with an emp,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:15 pmmg, I’ve never labeled you as a Trumpkin shill, and I know I’ve written at least ten times about the difference between mere Trumpkins (fools) and Trumpkin shills (culpable co-conspirators gathering more marks for the con-man).
There are tons of people who might vote for Trump, holding their noses, in order to cast a vote against Hillary. I don’t consider them to be “Trumpkins” unless and until they start singing Trump’s praises.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:25 pm39, you are silly. No, Cruz needs to be sued by his funders for running for president as a Canadian-born citizen. That’s the first step. If he gives a speech at the convention, he needs to admit that he’s a fraud and that his lust for power drove him to insanity during the primary. Then he needs to resign from the senate. That could diminish him to the point where Team Hillary can’t use him.
jcurtis (280a19) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:29 pmok, Beldar.
mg (31009b) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:35 pmBeldar, you think you got it rough? I’ve been reading Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita. Then to see some of the comments here …. 😉
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:45 pmNo, happyfeet, it’s absolutely not that kind of book.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:47 pmin translation, I’m working my way through trollope, currently phineas rex.
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:51 pmAnd the way you’ll know it’s coming, there will be a strange respect for Cruz being shown by the enemy media in the next few weeks. Gotta build him up as an authority figure to use his statements as appeal to authority later on.
jcurtis (280a19) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:51 pmI hate dealing with this. But if Hillary!’s cough doesn’t finish her it looks like I’m going to have to.
Steve57 (a8355f) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:56 pmHe could be the leader of the conservative block of the GOP in 2020. There’ll be the usual bunch of squishy moderates running.
In 1980 Reagan was the unchallenged leader of the conservative block, after he had unsuccessfully challenged Ford in 76, while you had Connally, Bush, Dole and Baker kind of running on their resumes. Incredibly many of the pundits didn’t even take Reagan’s candidacy seriously at the start of 1980. They saw him as a sort of niche candidate – kind of like happyfeet with Cruz – and assumed one of the others would be the nominee.
There could be a 1980 type scenario for Cruz – but only if other conservatives unite behind him from the start, like Reagan. Ideally he’ll be the only one running for the conservative vote while you’ll have the Connally, Bush, Dole and Baker types splitting up the squishy moderate vote. But somehow I doubt that it will work out that way.
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:58 pmNo way, jcurtis. The left is genuinely afraid of Cruz. “Worse than Trump” is their word for him. If Cruz endorses Trump, Hillary will use that to motivate the Sanderistas and ambivalents.
nk (dbc370) — 7/7/2016 @ 7:59 pmhere is the thing, cruz did a great job with jeh, but what are the other republicans doing, the usual suspects voted down katie’s law, on the question of the war on law enforcement, they are like basenghi for the most part, where is the evidence they actually hold one if not both houses of congress, ryan’s foolishness was beat back by the freedom caucus,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 8:00 pmRemember this for those counting on Trump losing and then Cruz being the nominee in 2020. If the economy’s at least okay in 2020, and assuming no major sense of crisis in foreign policy, terrorism etc., Hillary will beat any Republican nominee. That’s the unbreakable rule of thumb about incumbent Presidents running for reelection.
Anyone wanting Trump to lose so that Cruz will be President has to hope that we’re right in the middle of a recession in 2020. Maybe that will happen, but hoping Trump goes down just on the possibility of that is kind of like deliberately running the clock out in a football game while you’re behind, so that you can try a Hail Mary with one play remaining. Or maybe people think Cruz will win even with a decent economy, which is pure fantasy.
Gerald A (76f251) — 7/7/2016 @ 8:30 pmmeanwhile the regine is pouring gasoline over kindling, can we focus on the big picture,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 8:34 pmI don’t know who is wanting Clinton to win so Cruz can run in 2020.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/7/2016 @ 8:53 pmI certainly don’t.
the 1912 campaign was instructive, teddy won most of the primaries, in the end they nominated taft, it wasn’t a pretty sight,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/7/2016 @ 8:55 pmI have though. If I can openly insult the man without base, I can openly apologize.
MG, I’m sorry.
Bill H (971e5f) — 7/7/2016 @ 9:51 pmNo apologies necessary, Bill H. As I am a invective, unhinged lunatic on the shill side of insanity.
mg (31009b) — 7/8/2016 @ 3:56 amahhhh
Bulgakov
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/8/2016 @ 4:10 am“55.After this election defeat, Cruz can then assume Republican leadership in a ’20 White house bid.
”
Ha ha ha. That’s a good one.
In ’20 Cruz will be running against all the Establishment picks, and will get squeezed out just like Perry, Walker, etc. All the big money will be going for another Bush or Rubio.
Can’t any Cruz supporters do wargaming? Try re-running the 2016 primary without Trump — who would be the nominee? Jeb. Not Cruz. Jeb. Maybe Rubio, if Jeb failed. But not Cruz, no way, no how.
And if Cruz did somehow manage to get the nomination, Hillary and the MSM would crush him about being born in Canada.
fred-2 (ce04f3) — 7/8/2016 @ 5:46 amSeriously????
Gerald A (945582) — 7/8/2016 @ 5:49 amI disagree. Trump got a lot of evangelical voters – the block Cruz was basing much of his strategy on. The effect of that was evident in South Carolina where a whopping 67% of voters were white evangelicals. Trump got 34% of them, compared to 26% for Cruz and 21% for Rubio. Cruz and Rubio tied for second at 22% to Trump’s 36%. I believe SC was pivotal to Cruz’s strategy. If Cruz won SC he would have been in the driver’s seat.
Gerald A (945582) — 7/8/2016 @ 6:03 amA fwiw,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/8/2016 @ 6:57 amI heard the claim that when further analyzed, self-identified evangelicals who went to church weekly/ 4 month voted mainly for Cruz, those going 2-3/ month voted for Trump.
Seriously????
Gerald A (945582) — 7/8/2016 @ 5:49 am
You betcha. To the free tuition and Passion Lube crowd, Cruz is no different from David Duke.
nk (dbc370) — 7/8/2016 @ 7:10 amCould John Kasich Dump Trump in Cleveland?
Has John Kasich really left the race for the presidency?
In recent days, the words and actions of the Republican Ohio governor and his political staff have made the question worth asking.
In early April, Barron’s ran a cover story on Kasich, arguing that his “policy prescriptions, experience, and temperament make him the GOP’s best bet to reassure a nervous marketplace.” The Barron’s piece also pointed out that Kasich, unlike Trump and Ted Cruz, was handily beating Hillary Clinton in the polls.
A month later, on May 4, Kasich “suspended” his race for the GOP nomination after it became clear that Trump was on his way to winning on the first ballot. Ted Cruz, who had racked up the second-highest number of delegates, had dropped out one day earlier.
Since then, Kasich, who has refrained from endorsing Trump, has been keeping a low profile back in Ohio and giving few interviews about presidential politics. Though political observers and online betting parlors alike had once viewed Kasich as the leading choice to be any GOP nominee’s running mate, that possibility diminished because of the governor’s clear distaste for Trump.
Kasich has said that he will be in Cleveland during the week of the convention – the event starts Monday, July 18 – but has no plans to participate.
Then came The Wall Street Journal report on Wednesday that anti-Trump forces are making a push to force a vote on the convention floor that would throw open a GOP contest that appeared over because of Trump’s success in the primaries. (Subscription required.)
“Mr. Trump’s intraparty foes, led by a group of rogue delegates, are waging an intense behind-the-scenes effort to push the Republican National Convention’s Rules Committee for a vote on freeing delegates to back whomever they wish, rather than being bound to Mr. Trump,” the Journal reports.
The piece adds that “the anti-Trump camp needs the backing of 28, or one-quarter, of 112 Convention Rules Committee members to place the issue before the full convention. A Wall Street Journal survey suggests it could be close.”
In an interview earlier this week with Dan Balz, a veteran political writer with the Washington Post, Kasich said that he wanted no part in leading a convention revolt.
When I asked Chris Schrimpf, a Kasich spokesman, whether the governor would allow his name to be entered into nomination in the event of an open convention, he replied via e-mail: “The governor has said he is not interested in stirring up trouble and that Trump won.”
But the Post article by Balz, one of America’s most seasoned beat political reporters, was filled with enough mix messages to make a Kremlinologist salivate.
Balz points out that Kasich, by not endorsing Trump, had reneged on a pledge he made months earlier on a debate stage to support the party nominee. “Asked whether delegates to the convention, including those bound to Trump or others by the results of primaries and caucuses, should honor those rules if Kasich is not living up to his pledge, [Kasich] said it is up to them to decide,” wrote Balz.
Balz quoted Kasich as saying of the delegates: “They have to weigh their responsibilities against their consciences and then make a decision about what they want to do.”
Whoa! That sounds like Kasich is giving tacit approval for a revolt at the Cleveland convention in two weeks that he or other candidates might benefit from, though he would refrain from leading that revolt.
Meanwhile, Yahoo! News reports that an e-mail was sent out Tuesday from Kasich’s campaign — which he suspended in May but did not formally end — touting the results of an NBC News poll that had Kasich beating Clinton by eight points in a general-election matchup.
That same NBC News/Survey Monkey poll showed Clinton beating Trump handily.
Gerald A (945582) — 7/8/2016 @ 8:34 amKasich doesnt have the nads or the backup – neither the backing of renowned military plus a frosty relationship with first responders because of that all-encompassing (as opposed to Walker’s targeting teachers and bureaucrats) right to work bill that got shot down in 2011. He might be better off as a founding figure of the nascent Management Democrats/Globalist party that emerges from the crashing of the traditional GOP and Democrat blocs.
Watch Trump take no chances with suffering fools and their shenanigans during the Convention, the VP is going to a general or a hard ass, not a DC insider.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 7/8/2016 @ 9:02 amTrump said the other day he hadn’t talked to Kasich.
But Kasich rejected Bill Kristol’s approach to him to run as a third party candidate, thinking it would not work.
Sammy Finkelman (88f52d) — 7/8/2016 @ 9:58 amAnd here I am, merely contemplating uses for my dad’s recently amputated leg. I was considering using it as a doorstop. One of the nurses here at dialysis suggests using it to kick him in the as*, which does have a certain poetry to it. But I think I have the ultimate use: as a free space in a game of Twister.
Bill H (576c5e) — 7/8/2016 @ 11:19 amAlrighty- back to yelling “Trump!!” “NeverTrump!!” at each other.
All I can say at this point is I am going to be extremely disappointed in Cruz if he endorses Trump. There had better be a damn good reason. So-called party unity ain’t it.
Bill H (576c5e) — 7/8/2016 @ 11:26 amurbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 7/8/2016 @ 9:02 am
The VP slot is going to somebody Donald Trump knows well, and feels comfortable with, who is also famliar with Washington and Congress: Newt Gingrich. At least it will if Donald Trump is at all serious about governing if he wins.
Hillary Clinton’s VP will probably be a name not on any list: A woman not very young, but also not very experienced, or maybe just the opposite, someone who could be considered experienced and not so young, whom Hillary has a hold over: Senator Maria Cantwell.
Sammy Finkelman (88f52d) — 7/8/2016 @ 11:35 amPeople still hoping to dump Trump at the convention are delusional. If that happened, the Republican party would lose half its membership forever, and never win another election. Not president, not senator, not representative.
Trump won the primary by more votes than even Romney won with. Either he will be president, or Hillary, best get your mind right about that.
LBascom (e208fd) — 7/8/2016 @ 3:49 pmUnless there is enough in delegates to overcome 1237, I doubt seriously that’s going to happen. Quite simply, the GOP bought the ticket, and now they can take the ride. The GOP was so massively pissd off at Cruz, they didn’t stop to think this could happen. Guess what, boys and girls- you selected Trump, he’s your candidate, you own him. Enjoy!
Bill H (971e5f) — 7/8/2016 @ 6:31 pmI already know how I’m going to move forward, Trump or Hillary, makes no difference to me.
Bill H (971e5f) — 7/8/2016 @ 6:33 pmAll I can say at this point is I am going to be extremely disappointed in Cruz if he endorses Trump. There had better be a damn good reason. So-called party unity ain’t it.
Bill H (576c5e) — 7/8/2016 @ 11:26 am
The reason in 3 words: Hillary Fu*cking Clinton. You’d have to be daffy to want another 4 years of this dogsh*t.
Colonel Haiku (236f6f) — 7/8/2016 @ 7:19 pmAnd I don’t think you are, Bill H.
Colonel Haiku (236f6f) — 7/8/2016 @ 7:20 pmI don’t know, coronello, it’s like the brain slugs, of ceti alpha 6, have crushed the brain, leading to captain terrell phasering himself,
narciso (732bc0) — 7/8/2016 @ 7:29 pm“I’ve been reading Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita.”
Finally getting up to speed, are we? Goodness gracious, you’ll be tucking into Gravity’s Rainbow next. Or maybe just Ernie Bushmiller, or Los Bros. We’ll make a well-read ***-a outta you yet. Welcome, belatedly, to adulthood. Sorta.
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/8/2016 @ 8:04 pmTrump also had more votes against him than any other nominee in history.
He won the primaries as a plurality out of 15 or so,
don’t pretend otherwise.
Yes, for the sake of not becoming a totally lawless society,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 7/9/2016 @ 5:57 amHRC needs to be denied the presidency,
but Trump is a terrible choice to do it.
If Clinton had any opposition, her opponent would be using Comey’s announcement and subsequent testimony to tear her apart. Fortunately for her, she’s running unopposed.
Rick Ballard (ddb240) — 7/9/2016 @ 7:23 amYou notice that lately the Hillary bots are trying to sell the notion that if Trump is elected he won’t serve?
They’ve been pushing that since October 2015. (politico)
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/9/2016 @ 7:42 amYou think they know something about the polls that we don’t? They’re sure acting like it.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/9/2016 @ 7:44 amThey’re electing Trump one riot at a time…
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/agitators-hurl-rocks-phoenix-police-chant-shoot/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/9/2016 @ 8:05 amRemember when Jeb Bush was the worst case scenario you could imagine? Good times.
With the RNC a week and a half away, I’m told the additional parking area hasn’t had the concrete formed or poured. Symptomatic?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 7/9/2016 @ 8:10 am“HRC needs to be denied the presidency, but Trump is a terrible choice to do it.”
You could be right, but sadly you’re all out of alternative options. Like it or not, Trump wiped the floor –he wiped the damn floor!– with the best the GOP had to offer, and what they had to offer was unbelievably pathetic. It tells you not so much about Trump, but what sort of mood the American people are in at the moment. So your choices now, unfortunately, are either, Hitlery and a path to inevitable civil war, or take a flyer on this whacko and see what he comes up with. Total Hobson’s choice, I grant ye, but here’s where we are. One thing I can say in Trump’s favor is he knows perfectly well that he didn’t build all those buildings with his own bare hands, he had to have a team of competent people. My hope is that if he’s elected (which I truly doubt, b/c this will be the most brazenly stolen election in American history, and therefore the beginning of the end of the Republic), he might have the good sense to assemble a proper team to make the correct technical decisions, while he just plays the part of zany Alpha guy and project manager.
But, you know… like the late great Dennis Hopper said, quoting Kurtz in Apocalypse Now, “the word in the middle of ‘LIFE’ is ‘IF’.”
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/9/2016 @ 8:48 amor take a flyer on this whacko
What in Heaven’s name are you talking about (YuTube)?
Here’s the thing. I don’t give a tuppenny [edit] about your moral conundrum, you meat-headed [edit]-sack. That’s more or less the thing. And I want you to go out there… You, nobody else. None of your little minions. I want you to go out there. And I want you to punish the person who’s responsible for murdering this poor little rabbit. Is that understood?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/9/2016 @ 9:01 am@papertiger — a very well-chosen moniker, I must say.
Now what on earth are you talking ’bout, Willis?
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/9/2016 @ 9:07 am87. Blacks in the SW should be acting like a model minority or at least the lesser than 2 evils. Utterly stupid on their part.
88. That situation is on purpose – that’s where the Never Trumps are going to be “deposited”, Youngstown-style.
urbanleftbehind (e5ba5a) — 7/9/2016 @ 9:13 amWhen has Donald Trump done anything that could remotely be described as wacko?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/9/2016 @ 9:20 am“When has Donald Trump done anything that could remotely be described as wacko?”
Oh, to be fair, that’s just a sop to the folks who are made uncomfortable by his refreshingly shoot-from-the-hip style. What could be better right now than a president who isn’t a professional politician, who knows how to do actual real things like build skyscrapers and make hit TV shows? Who could look Mr. Putin in the eye and not blink? And maybe even make friends! Back in the nineteenth century, we used to elect presidents who were military heroes instead of lawyers. Some people seem to intuit that he’s sort of exactly the thing that’s needed at this point, but they’re kinda scared to admit it because he’s so blunt. But of course we need more blunt, and lots of it. I think they won’t tell pollsters that they understand where he’s coming from, but they’ll pull the lever for him in privacy. Not that it’ll matter: this will be the most stolen, crooked, corrupt election you’ve ever seen in your life, there will be riots and assaults and voter intimidation at the polling stations, and pro-Trump votes will be shredded by the millions by Dem fascist commissars, just as they miraculously discover millions of bags of forged postal votes for Hitler.
Get ready for President Hitlery. Your telescreen commands you to.
hunson abedeer (80144e) — 7/9/2016 @ 9:44 amI picked that clip for the ambient attitude rather than a perfect fit on context.
Get ready for President Hitlery. Your telescreen commands you to.
Over my dead body.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 7/9/2016 @ 10:22 am